1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Hey discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life, 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: just to touch, to get you through. Yeah me too. 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: This is the podcast. It comes after the podcast. Welcome 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, 5 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party. 6 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after 7 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: the party, the bridge to get you from one full 8 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: episode of Disgraceland to the other. The backyard, to dig 9 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: into the dirt, our mission to uncover the truth, to 10 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode, 11 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: we are discussing Turnstiles, Grammy Wins, and why hardcore music 12 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: is now pop music, Jane's addiction, and our greatest live 13 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: music experiences as kids, long suffering New England Patriots fans 14 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: finally get to experience the postseason and we get into 15 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: your emails, comments, and as always, a whole lot of rosie. 16 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: This is the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders 17 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: of the independent thinkers who know that the best history 18 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: is the history that gets buried. Disgrace Land is where 19 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 1: I tell the stories they didn't want told, the kind 20 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: you'll end up telling someone else. All right discos. Let's 21 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: get into it all right, here's something interesting. Turnstile is 22 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: the first hardcore band to win a Grammy award. The 23 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: Baltimore quintet now two Grammys, one each in the Best 24 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: Rock Album and Best Metal Performance categories. You guys know 25 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: I'm a Turnstyle fan. You know I've been paying attention 26 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: to this. I've been following along. I come from the 27 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: hardcore scene, so this is of particular interest to me. Again, 28 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: Turnstyle two Grammys, one for Best Rock Album and another 29 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: for Best Metal Performance. Make no mistake about it. Turnstile 30 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: is a hardcore band. In the Best Rock Album category Turnstile, 31 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: Beat Out, New Metal Journeyman, Lincoln Park, Perpetual Hollywood Scene, 32 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: Darling's Time, Crossover Vets, Deftones, and Rock's Latest Hope Young Blood, 33 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: And in the Best Performance category Turnstiles, Song Birds, one Over, 34 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: Masked metal Heads, Sleep Token, Canadian progressive metal heads Spirit Box, 35 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: and two theater rock groups Ghost and Dream Theater. Now 36 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: Make no mistake. Turnstyle is neither a rock band or 37 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: a metal band. In the group's acceptance speech, frontman Brandon 38 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: Yeates said that the community we found through punk in 39 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: hardcore music has given us a safe place to swing 40 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: in the dark and land somewhere beautiful. Community. That word, 41 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: in particular, community is what separates the hardcore scene from 42 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: the metal scene, from the rock scene, even from the 43 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: punk scene. Even though Yates categorized the scene that Turnstile 44 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: came from as being punk and hardcore, He's from the 45 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: hardcore scene, trust me. And the hardcore scene is different, 46 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: much different. It's built on a different set of values. Now, 47 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: long before these concepts became mainstream, the hardcore scene embraced 48 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:18,519 Speaker 1: the concepts of inclusiveness, of do it yourself, grit, and independence. 49 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:23,119 Speaker 1: Decades before these ideas were embraced and promoted by other 50 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: music subcultures. The hardcore scene, the Turnstiles Brendan Yates is 51 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: talking about cultivated and open mindedness that still champions esoteric 52 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: lifestyles and religions, everything from straight edge to vegetarianism and veganism, 53 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: Harry Krishna, even rastafarianism. Other music scenes, particularly metal and rock, 54 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: openly mocked and ridiculed the hardcore scene for its openness. Now, 55 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: Turnstiles Brendan Yates took the stage at the sixty eighth 56 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: Grammy Awards the other night, and again he said, the 57 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: community we found through punk in hardcore again, that's the 58 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: key word community. The hardcore community is completely different than 59 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: other musical communities. It's hard to explain unless you've lived 60 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: in it, as I have. In a lot of ways, 61 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: it's like being part of a club, a club of outsiders, 62 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: and that's what drew me and many others to the 63 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: hardcore scene to begin with. And once you've been accepted 64 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: into this club, you never really leave in that way. 65 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: I guess it's kind of like the Mafia or the 66 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: CIA when you're traveling. I'm joking, but when you're traveling 67 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: in all seriousness, when you're traveling, you're traveling abroad. It's 68 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: happening me so many times. You're traveling abroad, you're somewhere else, 69 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: far from home. You're walking down a foreign street. Perhaps 70 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: you pass a dude wearing a Gorilla Biscuits T shirt 71 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: or a Baine hoodie or yeah, maybe some turnstile swag. 72 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: You don't necessarily stop and talk to that dude, but 73 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: for sure the both of you exchange knowing nods. Now, 74 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: you and the girl wearing the Joy Division T shirt, 75 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: you're not necessarily going to do that, nor would you 76 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: with the guy wearing the Matleykousher. It's different, it's a 77 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: different experience, it's different lived in experience being in the 78 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: hardcore scene. So Turnstile, though they won in both the 79 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: rock and metal categories, is the first hardcore band to 80 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: win a Grammy Award. This is never done before. 81 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 2: Now. 82 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 1: The interesting thing here is, even though Turnstile is a 83 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: hardcore band, what I want to ask is, this is 84 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: the music from their latest album, Never Enough hardcore music? 85 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: And the answer is no, it's not. It's something more, 86 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: it's something different. The music on Never Enough transcends hardcore music. 87 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: It of course has trademark hardcore elements, mash parts, big 88 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: chug a chugger, riffs, sing along choruses, breakdowns, but it 89 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: also includes elements that no hardcore band has ever included 90 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: and succeeded with, namely, synth parts that are not just atmospheric, 91 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: they're singular. I heard that record, I was like, God, 92 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: they're making like Smith's guitar riffs with synthesizers. Okay, these 93 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: elements they add this originality that I think I believe anyways, 94 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: is gonna long be imitated by other bands, not just 95 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 1: hardcore bands. And in a way we'll contribute in no 96 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 1: small manner to the future of not just heavy music, 97 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: not just hardcore music, but to the future of pop music. 98 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: Now hear me out. Like Metallica and Nirvana before them, 99 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: Turnstile created a new sound that transcended the niche scene 100 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: that first embraced them. After Metallica released the Black Album, 101 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 1: they no longer sounded like a metal band. They no 102 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: longer sounded like anything but Metallica in a new version 103 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: of Metallica, not like the Metallica from the album's previous 104 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: not like Injustice for All, not like Master of Puppets, 105 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: not like Ride. The Lightning Black album sounded like Metallica 106 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: in that moment, something different. Same for Nirvana, nothing was 107 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: the same after Nevermind. The band on that album didn't 108 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: sound like an alternative band. They didn't sound like a 109 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: Seattle band. They didn't sound like a college band or 110 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: even a grunge band, whatever that was. They sounded like Nirvana. 111 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: Nirvana after Nevermind no longer sounds like the Melvins or 112 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: mud Honey, as they kind of do on Bleach. I mean, yeah, 113 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: they're their own thing on Bleach, but you put Bleach 114 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: up without never Mind, right, in nineteen eighty nine, or 115 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: whenever Bleach comes out, Yeah, nineteen eighty nine. I think 116 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: you put that album up there next to a Melvin's 117 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: record from the era or a mud Honey record from 118 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: the era, and they're all in conversation with each other. 119 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: They all speak sonically to one another. They sound similar, 120 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,239 Speaker 1: same thing with Metallica previous to the Black album, Okay 121 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: and Justice for All, with Slayers, Rain and Blood, or 122 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: with a Megadeth or Anthrax record, they're all kind of 123 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: in conversation together, right, All those the big thrash bands, 124 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: they're all kind of they're all kind of there. They're 125 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: all kind of on the track, neck and neck, nose 126 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: to nose. What happens when the Black album comes out? 127 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: Metallica can no longer be compared to Slayer or Megadeth 128 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: or Anthrax. Both Metallica and Nirvana evolved into something beyond 129 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: their respective thrash and grunge scenes and into a new 130 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: kind of popular music because those albums not only did 131 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: they sound different, they had a commercial breakthrough. They had 132 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: a commercial impact. They impacted popular culture in the way 133 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: that their records previously did not, and they impacted popular 134 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 1: culture with a new evolution of the band's sound that 135 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: turned them into something new, something different, something that had 136 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: never been heard before, something known as pop music, a 137 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: new kind of pop music. And what happens when a 138 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: band becomes pop their influence grows exponentially. After Nevermind by 139 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: Nirvana and after The Black Album by Metallica, new crops 140 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: of musicians took to their instruments inspired by Nirvana and 141 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: Metallica without being inspired by other grunge or thrash bands. Now, 142 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's a good thing necessary, I'm just 143 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: saying that it's a thing. Trust me, In nineteen ninety 144 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: one nineteen ninety two, when those records were out there, 145 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: there were kids buying guitars learning Nirvana songs who had 146 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: never heard mud Honey, had never heard the Melvins before. 147 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: Same goes for Metallica, kids learning Metallica songs who had 148 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: no idea who Megadeth was. And again, I'm not saying 149 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: that's a good thing. I'm just saying that it's a thing, 150 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: and that the hardcore sound through Turnstyle alone, will now 151 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: be singed into the future of pop music. Because, put simply, 152 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 1: Turnstyle has become something other than a hardcore band. They've 153 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: become Turnstyle and now they have two Grammy Awards to 154 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: prove it. Turnstyle. Love them, hate them, never heard of them, 155 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: kind of interested in them. Whatever. You can no longer 156 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: escape the fact that they are more consequential today than 157 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: they were a week ago, and I kind of love it. 158 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: I didn't see it coming. I did not see this coming, 159 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: and I'm kind of stoked about it. Anyways, speaking of 160 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 1: influence and consequence, this week's new episode on one of 161 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: the most consequential bands in the nineteen nineties, Jane's Addiction, 162 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: is currently available for you to listen to. This is 163 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: part two of the Jains Addiction story. We dropped episode 164 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: one in the feed for you guys. Give you a 165 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: refresh before diving into the continuation of the Jaine saga. 166 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: Jane says she's done with Sergio. He treats me like 167 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: a rag doll. I love that line. I love this band. 168 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: Jane's Addiction blew my mind when I first heard them. 169 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: I was lucky enough to see him in a smallish 170 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: venue when I was in high school, an auditorium in Fitchburg, Massachusetts, 171 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: and they were fucking incredible, incredible, probably the greatest live 172 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 1: band i'd seen up until that point, until I saw 173 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: Fugazi a couple of years later in the same venue, 174 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: mind you, in Fitchburg Wallas Civic Center. And then again 175 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: and I saw Fugazi and Clinton Mass My band got 176 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: to open up for them. Take that turnstyle. I'm kidding. Anyways, 177 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: Zeth and I are going to be talking about our 178 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: favorite live music experiences as kids from in the exclusive 179 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: section of this some after party. Some some real nineties 180 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: early aughts live music stories, huge bands we've seen in 181 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: small clubs, bizarre experiences with rock stars on the corners 182 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: of the street, all kinds of stuff, all in the 183 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: exclusive all access section of this after party. Go to 184 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: Disgrace sampod dot com to sign up. And as I'm 185 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: saying this, maybe we'll make this a two part all 186 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: access section because I think it'd be cool to hear 187 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: your wildest live music experiences from childhood as well. Now 188 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about this out loud as I say it. 189 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: Maybe what we'll do is have you guys call in 190 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: or tex six one seven nine oh six, six six 191 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 1: three eight call us this week, give us your stories 192 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: about your most memorable live music experiences, and we'll play 193 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 1: them in next week's all access section of the After Party. 194 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: As we continue this conversation so again, check out today's 195 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: convo me and Zeth talking wild live music experiences as 196 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: kids them. Call six one seven nine oh six six 197 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: six three eight, leave a voicemail, send a text, give 198 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: us your wild live music experiences as children, children of 199 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: the nineties, children of whenever. You don't have to have 200 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 1: been coming up in the nineties. They don't know. These 201 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: don't have to be nineties experiences, and you can hear 202 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 1: your answers in the all access section of next week's 203 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: after Party. We'll keep this convo going all right after 204 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: Jane's Part two this week, and after this bonus episode 205 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: in our feed, we've got Beatles Part one and Part two, 206 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: speaking of consequential artists. You can't get more consequential than 207 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: the Beatles. And then next week we've got our new, 208 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: long awaited, long requested episode on me as a Pada 209 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 1: of the Gits. Miaz A Pada, of course, was murdered 210 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: and died way too young, prompting next week's question of 211 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: the week, Which musicians do you love that died before 212 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 1: they got their due? Be thinking of this when you're 213 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: listening to the miyaz A Poda episode and then again, 214 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: give me a call six one seven nine oh six 215 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: six six three eight and let me know. The phone 216 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: lines are open, as they say, let me know which 217 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: musicians that you love who died before they got their 218 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: due six one seven nine oh six six six three 219 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: eight voicemail and text. I'll be back after this with 220 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: your answers to last week's question of the week. All right, guys, 221 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: we're back, and I wanted to just point something out 222 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: here real quick to you. 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I'm super stoked about this video. 239 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: Should be played loud. I love I think that my 240 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: two favorite things in the world are my favorite thing 241 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: in the world besides my kids and my family. And 242 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: you know, the big sort of tent pole stuff is 243 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: when you're watching a great movie and this incredible song 244 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: comes on and it just it changes everything. It changes 245 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: the film, It changes the story, it changes the emotional 246 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: connection you're having to the characters, and it even changes 247 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: the way you think about that music when you see 248 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: it in the context with the movie. And that can 249 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: come from a Neil drop, something on the soundtrack, it 250 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: can be scoring, whatever it is. The combination of music 251 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: and images on screen just unbelievable. I love it. That's 252 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: at the heart of this film. Should be played loud. 253 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: We've done two episodes so far. We did an episode. 254 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: Our first episode is on Goodfellas. Our second episode is 255 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: on train Spotting. The next episode, I believe we're going 256 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: to cover Marty Supreme, the new film, the new Timothy 257 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: shallow May movie that's out there right now. It's gonna 258 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: be Episode three of this film should be played loud. 259 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: Train Spotting, like I said, is the most recent one. Matt, 260 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: why don't you play the folks here? A little taste 261 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: of this film should be played loud. 262 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 2: The opening scene of this movie is it's the two Ewins. 263 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 2: It's Ewan McGregor and you and Bremner. They're halling ass 264 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 2: down the street with a cop and a store clerk 265 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 2: in a hot pursuit behind them, and Iggy Pop's Lust 266 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 2: for Life is playing, and it literally the first shot 267 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 2: is of a foot hitting the pavement rate as the 268 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 2: opening drum beat of Lust for Life plays, and You're 269 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 2: just like you are just yanked end of this world 270 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 2: so hard? Were you andto Iggy at the time, or 271 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 2: did you have the same for me. I don't know 272 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 2: that I've ever heard this song before I saw this movie, 273 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 2: and I vividly remember the song coming on and being like, 274 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 2: holy shit, what is this song? 275 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: Well, before I answer the question, I just for those 276 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: in the audience who are younger, it's important to remember 277 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: that in nineteen ninety six, when Trainspotting comes out. Lust 278 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: for Life by Iggy Pop, as hard as it is 279 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: now to imagine, was not a ubiquitous sort of classic tune. 280 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: It just was not. I mean, I'm sure I had 281 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: heard it, but I wasn't an iggy a fan of 282 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: Iggy Pop's music. I knew who he was, and I 283 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: thought he was an interesting guy because you got to remember, 284 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: he's doing like cry Baby around this time and dead 285 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: Man this day with Lord delivered thee into mind him. 286 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 2: For me, he had just had the reputation of the 287 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 2: guy who like cut himself on stage, and I was like, oh, 288 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: that's a little too transgressive for me, maybe, you know, yeah, that. 289 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: Was definitely part of the lore, and he was just 290 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: something that, you know, Johnny Depp was very enthralled with 291 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: him at the time, and we all knew Whojohnny Depp was, obviously, 292 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: and he was just kind of this it's like elder 293 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: statesman in the alternative world. But I wasn't listening to 294 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: Iggy Pop on purpose at that time. I wasn't. I 295 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: had friends, so I should say who probably thought that 296 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: I was lame because I didn't have the Stooges album. 297 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: You know what, I mean, it took a while. It 298 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: took a while for me to get into that and 299 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: and this movie kind of did it for the song, 300 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: but it that's not what iggy pop isn't what this 301 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: movie turned me on to. Musically. We can get into 302 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: what this what the movie did turn me onto, but no, 303 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: Iggy wasn't really on my radar. And now when you 304 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: go back and you're just it's not just it's not 305 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: just the lust for Life scene in the beginning, which 306 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: is absolutely, like instantly iconic. It's that night clubbing scene 307 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: in The Menace Nightclubbing yea, which Bowie Bowie produced, right, that. 308 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 2: One's not the idiot, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just it 309 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 2: sounds like a hangover that song, you know, yeah, it. 310 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: Really it sounds like you're you're you're hanging out with 311 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 1: the wrong fucking people. That's what And that's what what's happened. 312 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 1: Bowie was hanging out Bowie and NIGGI, we're both hanging 313 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: out with the wrong people at the time. Just so 314 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: happened that it was each other. All right, guys, that's 315 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: this film should be played loud. Myself and Zeth Lundy 316 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: getting down with our favorite music in movies. Go to 317 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: Disgrace sampod dot com to sign up, become an all 318 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: Access member and cop that exclusive content six one seven 319 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: nine oh six six six three eight, voicemail and text 320 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: to get in touch like we do every week. Like 321 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: I said, with the Jans Addiction episode, we prompted the 322 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: question who was the most consequential artist of the nineties? 323 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 1: Let's check in with the eight one eight. 324 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 3: Hey, Jake, it's King in one eight uh calling about 325 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 3: your question about which band best embodies the nineties? Thank 326 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 3: you by the way for not saying which band is 327 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 3: the most iconic? That we're just getting seriously overused, and 328 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 3: it's annoying that I digress who's the most important, Scottie Nirvana, 329 00:18:55,119 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 3: who's probably the longest lasting, still going important, and probably 330 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 3: Pearl Jam Beust hard rock album from that era, Sound 331 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 3: Garden super Unknown. For me, I can't even get into 332 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,199 Speaker 3: nineties hip hop and R and B because that's like, 333 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 3: that's like a whole separate podcast, and you might be 334 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 3: having that already in the works, who knows. But in 335 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 3: terms of like which band embodies for me the nineties, 336 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 3: it was kind of a left field one because I 337 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 3: never even listened to them until the two thousands. Uncle Tupelo. 338 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 3: They created a whole genre, Old Country. They gave birth 339 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 3: to two bands after they split up, Sunbolt and my 340 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 3: favorite band, will Go. I didn't even know about them 341 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 3: until the look A movie I'm Trying to Break Your 342 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 3: Heart came up, and then I kind of started going 343 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 3: back and like, little did I know that was a 344 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 3: huge part of a lot of people's lives in the nineties. 345 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 3: I know they started late eighties only went in the 346 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 3: ninety four, but I think just the fact that they 347 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 3: kind of created a whole new genre and gave birth 348 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 3: to some bands out of that. For me, that's my answer. 349 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 3: Thanks Charling, you doing you don't have an Uncle Tupelo episode. 350 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 3: I would suggest it, but you know what you just 351 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 3: talked about, how people don't even know these things. I'm 352 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 3: fairly new here. You probably have like two Uncle Tupel episodes. Broa, 353 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 3: I know. Thanks a bunch man rock rolla. 354 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: Yeo, okay, great, great, great, great call so much here 355 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 1: to unpack. First of all, I hear you on the 356 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 1: iconic thing. It drives me nuts. It absolutely drives me nuts. 357 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: Not everybody can be iconic. Part of what makes somebody 358 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: a nikon is they are separate and apart from everybody else, 359 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: and there's a time component to it as well. So yeah, 360 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 1: I could go on and on about that. I agree 361 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: with you on Nirvana, agree with you on what you 362 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: said about Pearl Jam and Sound Garden. I do think though, 363 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: that I don't really know how I haven't quite figured 364 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: out how to how to position Jane' addiction in this thinking, 365 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: because I do firmly believe that if it weren't for 366 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: their efforts, the Nirvana thing wouldn't have happened. And I 367 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: suppose you could probably even trace it back further. You know, 368 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: you can go from Jan's addiction back perhaps to Ram 369 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: and Pixies and the work they sort of did with 370 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: college radio and and sort of creating the runway for 371 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: the nineties explosion that was supercharged by Jane's addiction, and 372 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 1: then Nirvana, and on nineties hip hop. You're right, that's 373 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: a whole other separate conversation. I love nineties hip hop 374 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,479 Speaker 1: and R and B, by the way, and it's funny 375 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: that you should bring up Uncle Tupelo. Uncle Tupeloh, we 376 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: just we started talking about them in the excub already 377 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: taped the exclusive section. The conversation here between Zeth and I. 378 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: You'll hear Zeth's experience with Uncle Tupelo as a young kid, 379 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: and that album No Depression was produced by good friend 380 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: of ours, Paul Coldery, who I've done a lot of 381 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: work with in the past. Just a great, great record. 382 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: I'm definitely more of a tweety guy than I am 383 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: J Ferrar, But you know, I had Spotify on randomly 384 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: playing random stuff the other day and this song came on. 385 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: It was kind of a later or it wasn't from 386 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: No Depression. It was some some Uncle Tupelo thing and 387 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: it rocked so hard and it was a j J 388 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: for our song. But I'm not really a Sunbolt guy, 389 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: but I get it. I get why people are anyhow, 390 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: great great call loss unpacked there. Check out the all 391 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: access section of this too if you want to hear 392 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: more about that Uncle Tupelo experience that Zeth had, and 393 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: some Ryan Adams stuff too. If you're in the whole 394 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: all country thing. All right, let's check out this voicemail 395 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: from the six one. 396 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 4: Seven Jake Neil from Brighton, mass I just wanted to 397 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 4: say you're doing a great job. Love the episode. The 398 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 4: newer ones and keep up the great work. If you're 399 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 4: not around town, you're not missing a damn thing. 400 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: Thank you for all you doo Neil, thank you for 401 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: your call. I saw the six one sevens IF good 402 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, I got to check out 403 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: this Boston call. You did not disappoint my friend, And yes, 404 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: I am not in Boston and not around I'll be 405 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 1: there this weekend though. I'm going back and I'm excited 406 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: about it. You can watch the Patriots in New England 407 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl as it should be done right right. 408 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,479 Speaker 1: More on that later eight four to three tech cent Hey. 409 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: Jane's addiction was indeed the complete embodiment of the nineteen 410 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: nineties to me at the time. I pierced my septum 411 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: at thirteen and my senior quote in ninety three was 412 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: from ocean size. There you go, three six oh text, 413 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: sen Hey. I met Perry Farrell one night on the 414 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: way to an after hours club in Venice Beach nineteen 415 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: ninety eight. My friend Karen had her Hebrew name tattooed 416 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: on the back of her calf, and he, being Jewish, 417 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 1: could read it. Came up behind us and chatted us 418 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: up a minute it turns out we're all going to 419 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: the same club. Later on, I saw my brain pack 420 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: up a suitcase and roll off down the sidewalk on 421 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 1: a skateboard. But that's another story. I don't know what 422 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: that's in reference to three six oh, but I'm happy 423 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: you got to hang out with Perry Farrell. That sounds amazing. 424 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,479 Speaker 1: Nine seven eight Hell Tone Mark, he of the epic 425 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: Disgraceland playlist checking in here. Mark says, hey, Jake, playlist 426 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: is now up to an including little peep. You said 427 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: for me to get in touch, take advantage of your 428 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: very generous Patreon offer. How can I get that going? 429 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: That's a good question, helltal Mark. We're gonna figure that out. 430 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: This is my very public note to figure that out. 431 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: All right. Thanks for your patients, and thanks for all 432 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: you do. If anyone's like, what the hell is Jake 433 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: and helltal Mark talking about, well, Mark has been going 434 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: through every episode of Disgraceland from the beginning, and as 435 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: you know, there are probably about two hundred and sixty 436 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: episodes right now, not exactly sure, m and Mark is 437 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 1: making a playlist with every piece of music mentioned from 438 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: every single episode of Disgraceland, and so far he's up 439 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: to little peep, which is I don't know, gotta be 440 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 1: around like episode seventy year or something like that, the 441 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: eighty something along those signes keep going, Mark, We'll get 442 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: you that. Patreon member All Access membership nine to two zero. 443 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: Text in episode suggestion Ministry New World Order. I like that. 444 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: Gotta definitely do a ministry episode at some point. Six 445 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: one seven, nine oh six, six six three eight. Guys 446 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: get in touch. Interested to know from y'all which of 447 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: your favorite rock stars died before they got their due. 448 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: That's what we're gonna be talking about next week. Six 449 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: one seven, nine oh six, six six three eight voicemail 450 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: and text to let me know. If you want to 451 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 1: email me, you can do so at Disgrace sampod at 452 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: gmail dot com. Rob Hervey Wright saying, Hey, I enjoy 453 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 1: your podcast. Thought of a couple of episode ideas. One 454 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: is about Felix Popularti, bass player from Mountain, who is 455 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: murdered by his wife Gail, and the other story is 456 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: about Mike Gordon, bassist for Fish. Around the tour of 457 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: the Millennium, he got into some trouble with some Hell's 458 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: Angels and wound up getting his ball stomped for taking 459 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 1: pictures of an underaged girl whose father was a club member. 460 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: Have a great year. You know, we did a Fish episode. 461 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: We did not get into this story, and there's uh 462 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: we had we had our reasons. 463 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 4: Uh. 464 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: I didn't know this Hell's Angels. I didn't write that 465 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: episode some movies. That's I didn't know this Hell's Angels angle. However, 466 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 1: I wonder if this is true. We'll check this out, 467 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,959 Speaker 1: Rob and report back. In the meantime, Rob, check out 468 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: our Fish episode as it stands and let us know 469 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: what you think. Six one seven nine oh six six 470 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 1: six three eight voicemail, text at Disgrace Lampod on thesocials 471 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: Disgrace Lampod at gmail dot com. You want to get 472 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: in touch, that's how you do it. Back and flash 473 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: after this. All right, Matt, it is Super Bowl Week, 474 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 1: my friend. It's back baby. This is the sixty second 475 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: sports rant and the under thirty second sponsored by five 476 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 1: Hour Energy in the return of their Confetti Craze flavor 477 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: Bring Big Birthday Energy wherever you go with this plan 478 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: your Confetti Craze party at www dot Fiveenergy dot com 479 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: or Amazon available now. Matt, give me the buzzer beater. 480 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: All right, listen, it's not easy being a New England 481 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 1: Patriots fan. Some of you fans of, say the Vikings 482 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: or the Bills, or the Bengals of the Jets, are 483 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: other fans of long suffering football franchises. You may look 484 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: upon us, blanketed in our red way and blue, gearing 485 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: up for our twelfth Super Bowl appearance, gearing up for 486 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 1: our franchise leading seventh Super Bowl title. You may look 487 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: upon our postseason dominance with envy. But let me tell you, 488 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: it is not easy being a Patriots fan. It is 489 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 1: not easy being this hated, this despised by the entire country. 490 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: How bad do football fans hate the New England Patriots 491 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: and their fans? Well, as you probably heard, the winningest, 492 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 1: most dominant coach in NFL history, Bill Belichick, with six 493 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: Super Bowl titles as a head coach with the Pats, 494 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: was denied entry into the Pro Football Hall of Fame 495 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 1: last week. This week, Pat's owner Robert Kraft, also with 496 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: six titles, denied for the fourteenth time. Now, it's having 497 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,959 Speaker 1: the most titles as a coach and owner does not 498 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 1: get you into the Hall of Fame? Then what does 499 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: and how do you explain this Patriots hate? That's how 500 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 1: all right? But that's okay, that's cool. We'll take it. 501 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: Pats of players have long made league hate fuel for 502 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: postseason victory, and I, of course and hoping that they 503 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 1: do so again this weekend. We shall see, all right, Matt, 504 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: how to do one twenty eight today? Jake? You know, 505 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: I think that's pretty good. You've been on the shelf 506 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: for quite a while. You had a lot to say, 507 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: you know. All right, Well, that's okay. I'll take the 508 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,959 Speaker 1: l in hopes that the Pats get the w this weekend. 509 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: That was the sports ran sponsored by Five Hour Energies 510 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: Confetti Craze Flavor back by popular demand, Confetti Craz's tastes 511 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: like the best birthday cake ever with its rich buttery 512 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: and vanilla flavors. Since Five Hour Energy shots are tiny, 513 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: it's easy to take that birthday everywhere you go. Playing 514 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: your confetti party at www. Dot five hour Energy dot 515 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: com or Amazon available now. All right, guys, got some 516 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: merch coming to the merch winners. Keep an eye on 517 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: that mailbox. For those who don't know. Disgraceland fans audience 518 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: members who review the show on Spotify or on Apple Podcasts, 519 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: will if they hear their review reread back here and 520 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: the show receive some free merch might be a T shirt, 521 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: might be pins, might be some stickers. I'm looking at 522 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: some Disgrace Sland stickers right now on my desk. It's 523 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: very easy to leave a review, and reviews help power 524 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: discovery of the show, help bring this show to new listeners, 525 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: and we appreciate that. Chris Hilman over on Spotify rights, Hey, Jay, great, 526 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: listen on this Disgraceland episode of Jane's addiction. The things 527 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: Dave Navarro endured in his early life, like the brutal 528 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: death of his mother, explains why he took so many risks. 529 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: Couldn't imagine dealing with that just alone. Yeah, you're absolutely right, Chris. 530 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: I'm feeling generous today. So here's another review on Spotify, 531 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: this one by Sam Hunt, who writes, Hey, that Runaway EPISO, 532 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: so it gave me chills. Dude, I know so much 533 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: about the Runaways, but the way you tell these stories, 534 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: especially the last bit, I needed to hear that right now, 535 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: Sam Hunt, get in touch six one, seven, nine oh six, 536 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: six sixty three eight guys hit me up on tech 537 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: semi text semi voicemail Edward Joseph just shout out to you. 538 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: Looks like I pronounced Bergine wrong the brigame laud from 539 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: the Gaga episodes. You know, I actually did my homework 540 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: on this. I looked it up. Damn it. I don't know, Edward. 541 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm taking your word for it. 542 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: Tiffany Williams writes, hear me out, I'm playing Devil's advocate 543 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,479 Speaker 1: here on the Lady Gaga episode. Maybe it's a stretch, 544 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: but what if Gaga spent her career paying homage to 545 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: her friend by embodying her persona. I don't know, but 546 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: damn Jake, this was good. Bravo. That's an interesting idea, Tiffany. 547 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,479 Speaker 1: You know the idea that the conspiracy theory is that 548 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: Lady Gaga stole Lena Morgana's whole vibe, her style, her music. 549 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: I like your take, Tiffany, the maybe she's just paying 550 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: my sure a dead friend. I like that girl Kai 551 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: from Chai dot xx on Apple podcast. Whets Hey, I've 552 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: known Disgrace Sland forever, but for whatever reason, never actually 553 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: pressed play until the most recent Lady Gaga Part one episode. 554 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: And yeah, hooked is the word ten of ten stars. 555 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: Jake does a really amazing job but setting the dark 556 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: and cinematic vibes without feeling exploitative and gossipy. It's nice 557 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: to find a podcaster who respects nuance. Girl Kai from Chai, 558 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: get in touch will get you some merch, And I 559 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: appreciate you saying that about the nuance. It's an interesting 560 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: balance because if I'm being totally honest, as you know, 561 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,239 Speaker 1: I like the more dramatic portions of the story, as 562 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: I think we all do. That's the type of storytelling 563 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: that I'm drawn to. But if you do that without nuance, 564 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: it just becomes sensational. So finding that nuance and finding 565 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: enough of it and not using too much of it 566 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: is an interesting challenge when it comes to storytelling, and 567 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: we take it very seriously over here at Double Elvis, 568 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: and I got to say, I'm very happy that you 569 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: called that out. So get in touch six one seven 570 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: nine six six six three eight and we will get 571 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: you some merch. Okay, Now, if you need just a 572 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: little more double all the storytelling in your life, like 573 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: I said over on Patreon, you guys can check out 574 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: our new show. This film should be played loud. We've 575 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: also got many episodes that correspond with our full episodes, 576 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: and all of it is ad free. In addition, we 577 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: have another podcast called Hollywood Land that we produce, and 578 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: that show is helmed by my colleague, doctor Zeth Lundy, 579 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: who brings you all the Hollywood and true crime vibes. 580 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: Subscribe to Hollywood Land in your podcast feed if you 581 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: are not subscribed already. I'll be back after this. All right, guys. 582 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: In this episode we mentioned a ton of artists, but 583 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: I remember specifically talking about Nirvana and Metallica and the 584 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: B Block. And for new listeners, if you're not aware, 585 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: we have episodes on of course, we have two episodes 586 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: on Nirvana and we have an episode on Metallica, and 587 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: those are in our archive. Matt will have the episode 588 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: information for both of those in the show notes section 589 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: of this bonus episode, so you'll be able to easily 590 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: navigate your way to Metallica and Nirvana and also Motley Crue. 591 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: We mentioned Motley Crue as well. All right, let's recap 592 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: shat we number one this week, Our new episode on 593 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: Jane's Addiction is available for you right now. Number two. 594 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: Rewind episodes on the Beatles Parts one and Part two 595 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: coming up this end of this week and number three. 596 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: Next week we get a brand new episode on me 597 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: as a Pata of the gets Zeth as always is 598 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: bringing you those Hollywood and true crime vibes and Hollywood land. 599 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: Make sure you are subscribed number five. This film should 600 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: be played loud. Our new video podcast with our new 601 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: episode on Trainspotting is available. You gotta be a Patreon 602 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: member to cop that, so go to Disgray sampod dot 603 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: com to sign up. Number six six one seven nine 604 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: oh six six six three eight year voice keeps us 605 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: digging into the dark corners of music history, So keep 606 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: calling and texting with your answers to this week's question 607 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: of the week or with whatever else you guys want 608 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 1: to talk about. Number seven. Don't forget disc goes. This 609 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: isn't just content. It's a community, a community of the obsessed. 610 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 1: And no one cares about music, books, records and the 611 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: true crime and crime that ties them all together like 612 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: you do. And well that's a disgrace, all right. Back 613 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: on July eighteenth, nineteen ninety one, Ice Teas body Count, 614 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: the Rawlins Band, Butthole Surfers, Living Color nine inch Nails, 615 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: Susie and the Banjeez and Jane's Addiction performed for the 616 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: first ever show at the first ever lallapalousatur And here's 617 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: what America was listening to on that day according to 618 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: the Billboard Charts. Number one Everything I Do, I Do 619 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 1: It for You. Brian Adams last week for Pea position 620 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:58,280 Speaker 1: one weeks on chart five, number two, Right here, Right Now. 621 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:03,439 Speaker 1: Jesus Jones last week number three, peak position two, five 622 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: weeks on chart last sixteen, number three, unbelievable weeks. MF 623 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 1: last week peak position, peak position weeks on chart six 624 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: umber last number four, Passionate Sember last week five peak 625 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 1: position number four weeks on chart nine, number number five, 626 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 1: Pieces Summertimes, DJ Jazz and Jeff has a Fresh Press 627 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: last past Quit talking and start mixing.