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Speaker 1: Radio Radio Radio Commies, a myth and bullshit radio phonic

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Speaker 1: novella local Radio hosted by Malamuno Loca Pistemologies. Yes, we're recording.

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Speaker 1: We are live. Hello, Welcome to Locata Radio. I am

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Speaker 1: theos f M and I'm Malamunos. Welcome. Thanks for tuning in.

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Speaker 1: So we're just gonna start today with a little background

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Speaker 1: of or an introduction of who we are, UM, what

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Speaker 1: this podcast is about, and thanks for tuning in. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for tuning in. This is so this is our first recording,

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Speaker 1: our first episode for local radio. Yes, so do you

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Speaker 1: want to Mala? Do you want to start with talking

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Speaker 1: about who you are what you're about? Yes? Thank you. So.

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Speaker 1: UM I'm malam Yos and I'm an l A Native.

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Speaker 1: I am a rape crisis counselor advocate. UM, I'm a

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Speaker 1: crisis counselor. UM, I'm Adan Sante. Um, I'm a looka.

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Speaker 1: I'm a crazy bitch. I'm an activist, a feminist, and

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Speaker 1: I also UM I write. I write about women of

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Speaker 1: color artists, especially women who are working in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 1: Las Rene right of Southern California. So I've written for

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Speaker 1: UM the Vibe Viva section for Vibe magazine online, and

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Speaker 1: I've written about um Yes, which is a wonderful friend

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Speaker 1: of ours, incredible move head, incredible chinna activist, poet. I've

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Speaker 1: written about Monica kim Garza UM incredible painter. And then

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Speaker 1: I did a feature on sand Juan Um, amazing muralist,

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Speaker 1: UH street artist and entrepreneur. So that's a little bit

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Speaker 1: about who I am. So, uh Yosa, can you introduce

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Speaker 1: yourself to our listeners and let the world know who

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Speaker 1: you are? So? I am a queer firm, queer high

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Speaker 1: firm from Southeast l A. I'm a community organizer in

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Speaker 1: the South Bay. UM. I work for a nonprofit. UM.

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Speaker 1: I love makeup, I love tattoos, anything that's like fem centered,

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Speaker 1: our music, UM, and definitely intersectional feminism and activism, which

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Speaker 1: is actually what brought us together, one of the many

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Speaker 1: things that brought us together. UM. I'm also here for

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Speaker 1: like nonlinear healing, you know, I feel like that is

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Speaker 1: so prominent in our communities right now. It's like the

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Speaker 1: communities I'm involved in. UM. That is like the talk

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Speaker 1: right like healing and like being brus kind of like

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Speaker 1: reclaiming all these terms, you know, and being like in

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Speaker 1: tune or repairing these like lost connections to like we

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Speaker 1: were talking about this the other day, to like indigenous spirituality,

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Speaker 1: like Afro Indigenous spirituality. UM from our different like Latinum

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Speaker 1: Akin and US Latino context, how we like retain different things.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, so I think that all that all has

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Speaker 1: to do with that what you're talking about nonlinear healing. Yes,

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Speaker 1: so yeah, I love like I feel like I'm involved

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Speaker 1: in a lot of different things in l a UM,

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Speaker 1: one of them being UM shot Me Viva. So I

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Speaker 1: want to give a shout out to shot Me Viva.

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Speaker 1: We're actually recording here UM at the shop. So they

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Speaker 1: are on Highland Park. Um, they're in Highland Park on

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Speaker 1: York and Avenue fifty two. I think you should definitely

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Speaker 1: check them out if you're not in the area, it's

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Speaker 1: worth the drive. You can order from them online. UM,

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Speaker 1: so quick shout out to knowed dom in Adrianna from

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Speaker 1: the shop for letting us use this space. UM, I

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Speaker 1: love it. They're like so about community events and community work.

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Speaker 1: They you brought up yes and two weeks ago the

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Speaker 1: two three weeks ago they actually had a chink on

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Speaker 1: a fire event here at shot Me Viva, which is

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Speaker 1: so dope. Um, and they also participate in the monthly

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Speaker 1: Northeast l A art Walk, So shout out to shop

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Speaker 1: me Vida follow them on Instagram. They're super dope. You

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Speaker 1: will not regret it. And the shop itself is just

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Speaker 1: so dope. Like it's such a cool space, Like you

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Speaker 1: walk in and your eyes immediately like drawn in all

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Speaker 1: these different directions, all the art, the chin esthetics. I

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Speaker 1: love it. It's just I feel like I'm getting my

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Speaker 1: life completely like in many different ways. Yes, definitely, yes.

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Speaker 1: So hopefully we'll be recording from here more often. M Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this hopefully can be like our hub before. Yes. Um,

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about our name now local radio. Officially

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Speaker 1: we are local Radio Mommies of myth and bullshit. So

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Speaker 1: let's can you tell me a little bit about where

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Speaker 1: that came from? What inspired it? Yeah, So I think

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Speaker 1: part of it was like we were looking for a

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Speaker 1: name and identity that really was intersectional and that it

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Speaker 1: really just spoke to like experience, I think, um, in

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Speaker 1: what we talk about and this idea of nonlinear healing, Well,

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Speaker 1: what are we healing from? Right? Like this ridiculous like

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Speaker 1: like like oppressive in a lot of ways, like complicated

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Speaker 1: world that we live in, and it's like a crazy

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Speaker 1: making deem does look us does look as constantly for anything,

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Speaker 1: for everything. So it just made sense to Okay, so

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Speaker 1: we're a couple of lookers on the radio, look at

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Speaker 1: a radio. There we go at the end, um, I

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Speaker 1: think something that you and I have we kind of

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Speaker 1: came up with a definition for like what is alka,

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Speaker 1: right said a looka as anybody who does not conform

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Speaker 1: a Latino context. I think loca has its own kind

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Speaker 1: of connotation and origins that is different and separate from

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Speaker 1: be like a term of endearment, like a good thing. Right,

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Speaker 1: if you're a loca, you're you're that that woman that

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Speaker 1: it drinking, doesn't give a funk, Like, yeah, that's a loca.

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Speaker 1: You could just be living your life, getting your life,

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Speaker 1: look as she's crazy, or the survivor, right, the survivor

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Speaker 1: I think what you're saying to about like not believing

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Speaker 1: we're definitely it's personal, it's political reclaiming it, it's and

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Speaker 1: it's I think it has a lot to do with

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Speaker 1: growing up in environments where you know, not maybe not

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Speaker 1: creates an environment where you have young girls who are

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Speaker 1: because I have dealt with these things, right, So I'm

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Speaker 1: calling local epistemology, right. So, uh, an epistemology is a

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Speaker 1: is a way of learning, a way of knowing, a

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Speaker 1: Mommy's of myth and bullshit. So I guess patron saint

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Speaker 1: Something that I love about Santracy Settle's and that she

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Speaker 1: of her own. She said, like, I am nobody's mother

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Speaker 1: and I'm nobody's wife, and that is her own way

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Speaker 1: of being. Um So in many ways she can be

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Speaker 1: considered a look up. Oh yeah, absolutely absolutely. And I

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Speaker 1: think that when we say local epistemology, so so this

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Speaker 1: just like and sometimes are like our patron saints, right,

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Speaker 1: we hear about her as a Loca. Right, she is

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Speaker 1: a tale that folklore that cautionary to tell us, like

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Speaker 1: we're supposed to be afraid of her, right right. But

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Speaker 1: it's like you know what situation was she put up

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Speaker 1: against that drove her to behave the way that she did,

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Speaker 1: that drove her to become this eternally sad woman, right,

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Speaker 1: eternally like generation after generation, it was probably right, a

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Speaker 1: some community, she's glorified. In some communities she's like the ultimate. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: That's great. That is one of the most I think,

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Speaker 1: like we're talking about like Latina literature, like Chicina literature.

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Speaker 1: That's some iconic ship right there. That is iconic, like legendary,

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Speaker 1: which bitch, like all these things that we're trying to

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Speaker 1: reclaim and that so many of our of the folks

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Speaker 1: in our in our communities are trying to do right.

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Speaker 1: Another one that I really like is diamonds and pearls

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Speaker 1: tumble for my tongue, or toads and serpents, depending on

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Speaker 1: the mood I'm in. Right, it's not all sweet and honey,

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Speaker 1: It's often it's not. We have our complexities and okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: I want to read this next line because I feel

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Speaker 1: like it ties in because our complexities I think, and

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Speaker 1: when we stand up for ourselves and we try to

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Speaker 1: speak truth to power and we say no and we

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Speaker 1: said boundaries, right, or when we're victimized, were met with

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Speaker 1: a lot of anger and hatred. Right. A lot of

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Speaker 1: times we're like, like, if we're thinking about, like I

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Speaker 1: always think, try to think from like a survivor centric,

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Speaker 1: a survivor focused like point of view. Right, that we

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Speaker 1: see so often that when women, especially women of color,

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Speaker 1: especially trying gender women, especially black transgender women, right are

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Speaker 1: victims that abuse and that pain and and now we're

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Speaker 1: reaching out for help, is often met with more hatred

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Speaker 1: and more oppression and more abuse. And we think about

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Speaker 1: like victim blaming. Right, So when we are being our

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Speaker 1: complex selves and standing up for ourselves, we often get

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Speaker 1: that that backlash and this these lines in Loose Women

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Speaker 1: really speak to that. Right. The mob arrives with stones

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Speaker 1: and sticks to maim and lame and do me in

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Speaker 1: all the same when I opened my mouth, they wobble

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Speaker 1: like gin. Right. So that's it right there, that we

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Speaker 1: get attacked so often for just trying to be our

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Speaker 1: authentic selves. Right, And this is anywhere, like, especially women

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Speaker 1: of color, we are fucking harassed for living, for breathing,

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Speaker 1: for existing, Like, it doesn't matter. You can be outside

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Speaker 1: on the street, you can be walking to work, you

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Speaker 1: can be in the can, you go into the store,

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Speaker 1: or you can be on the fucking internet, and you

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Speaker 1: will be harassed anywhere for saying your message, for existing,

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Speaker 1: for first breathing, you know, and talk about crazy making.

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Speaker 1: I mean, right, I work at a rape crisis center, right,

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Speaker 1: So I am dealing with violence against women and children

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Speaker 1: all day long, right, and trying to provide services and

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Speaker 1: help and support and counseling and all that good, you know,

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Speaker 1: vital stuff. So we're I'm doing that all day and

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Speaker 1: my my female coworkers, right have we've all had the

468
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Speaker 1: same experience. I step out the door and then I

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Speaker 1: get cat called, right just the other day, and it

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Speaker 1: happens almost every week now at this point. That and

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Speaker 1: it's a lot of young women, and it's a lot

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Speaker 1: of Latinos at work where I work, right, And so

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of foot traffic because it's in the city,

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Speaker 1: and so we're getting we're getting harassed on the street.

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Speaker 1: And then my entire job every day is dealing with abuse, right,

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Speaker 1: and answering to abuse right, and trying to clean up

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Speaker 1: the mess that abuse leaves. So that is really crazy

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Speaker 1: making too, because it's like, wow, I really can't go

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Speaker 1: anywhere without having some kind of negative or harmful interactions.

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Speaker 1: That's what I see. Um yeah, that is so that

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Speaker 1: is so hard, you know, And that's that's your lived

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Speaker 1: experience in the so reality, right, And it's true, that's

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Speaker 1: true for a lot of women, a lot of women,

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Speaker 1: for most women. I would say I can definitely relate

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Speaker 1: to that. You know, I work in the South Bay

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Speaker 1: and I always joked at my office is my car

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Speaker 1: because I'm very mobile. I can because I'm a community organizer.

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Speaker 1: I work in the field. So I will park my

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Speaker 1: car like blocks away fro where I'm supposed to be

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know, walking, you know, getting to

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Speaker 1: my my job, you know, to work with the women,

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Speaker 1: mainly undocumented immigrant Latina women that I work with, and um,

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Speaker 1: I will you know, I will be called, I will

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Speaker 1: be followed, I you know, it's crazy harassed, you know.

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Speaker 1: And then I get to this like welcoming space with

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Speaker 1: the senoras that I work with, and I feel like Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm comforted and I feel good. And then I step

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Speaker 1: out and it's the same thing all over again, you know.

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Speaker 1: So even walking to my job is like impossible sometimes

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Speaker 1: and when and it's like this is something that we

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Speaker 1: can talk about and even even on like the level

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Speaker 1: of neurobiology, right, and like the way that our bodies

503
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: absorbed trauma. If we never feel safe because we never

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Speaker 1: are safe, Like, what does that do for your psyche?

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Speaker 1: What does that do for your mental health, your emotional

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Speaker 1: well being when you never feel safe, when you're constantly

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Speaker 1: threatened or you're you're raised to understand that you are

508
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Speaker 1: constantly in danger. Right. Little girls are brought up knowing

509
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Speaker 1: that that there's somebody out there who wants to do

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Speaker 1: as harness. Yes, little girls, little girls, Yes, absolutely, And

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Speaker 1: that's that's one of the biggest problem I think that

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Speaker 1: young girls of color. Um, they are really brought to

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Speaker 1: the maturity quickly, too quickly, too quickly, um, because it's

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Speaker 1: made known that they cannot dress a certain way. Um,

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Speaker 1: they cannot be a certain way because themselves, they cannot

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Speaker 1: be themselves, they cannot be children. Right. And that's one

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Speaker 1: of the hardest things I think for me to reflect

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Speaker 1: on now that you know, as an as an adult,

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Speaker 1: as a grown woman, you know, seeing like my experience

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Speaker 1: as a child, and we're having those memories of not

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Speaker 1: being able to just be a child, right right, No, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: And so I just wonder, like how much damage that

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Speaker 1: being in a state of constant fear. And I think

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Speaker 1: of refugees, right, and we can talk about how um

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Speaker 1: war and oppression on all of these things are mental

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Speaker 1: health issues, are gendered issues, are reproductive issues, Immigration as

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Speaker 1: a reproductive and mental health issue as well, because I

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Speaker 1: really I really want to know more about and talk

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Speaker 1: more about and really like understand how constantly feeling in danger,

530
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Speaker 1: never being at peace, never really being able to sleep well,

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Speaker 1: how that really affects somebody's their long term health, you know.

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Speaker 1: And so I think that that's another reason why like

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Speaker 1: young youth of color, especially young women of color, are pathologized,

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Speaker 1: and how women of color in general are pathologized that oh,

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Speaker 1: Latinos are crazy, get you a crazy Latina? This and that,

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00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: this and that, right, And it's because well, if I

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00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: grew up my entire life kind of with this this

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00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: sense of insecurity coming from a lot of different directions,

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Speaker 1: and I don't have a sense of safety. Yeah, again,

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Speaker 1: that's crazy making by design by environment right. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: love that absolutely. I had something that I was in

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Speaker 1: a state of all that's like you know right now,

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Speaker 1: and that was that was great. Um, should we do

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Speaker 1: a songbreak. Let's do a song break. We need to

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Speaker 1: like gather recenter after. That's a lot, it's a lot

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Speaker 1: to unpact and I feel like also also, I just

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Speaker 1: want to say, if you hear some crying in the background,

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Speaker 1: it's my puppy. It's he just shout out shut him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I found him on the street, the streets of Pasadena.

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Speaker 1: But he's aton when he's not with his mom, when

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Speaker 1: he's not with me, he's upset. He cries. So let's

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Speaker 1: do a song break and then we'll come back. And

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Speaker 1: and and and and and friends and and and and

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Speaker 1: and and and friends and and and and and and

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Speaker 1: and um um um um um um um um of

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Speaker 1: it and ship so um. If you want to hear

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Speaker 1: more episodes of Local Radio, hosted by Theos FM and Malmnos,

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Speaker 1: find us on Instagram. Uh the our Instagram name is

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Speaker 1: local Tora Underscore Radio. Um. We eventually will be on

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Speaker 1: Twitter and we're gonna be postings our episodes on SoundCloud

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Speaker 1: and iTunes. So that's where you can listen to us.

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Speaker 1: That's where you can find us, and we'll be posting

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Speaker 1: content on Instagram in between episodes. And if there's a

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Speaker 1: topic that you want to hear about, let us know,

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Speaker 1: comment and you can d m us um, let us

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Speaker 1: know if there's something that you loved or something that

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Speaker 1: maybe you want to know more about. Questions people are.

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Speaker 1: We want to be like as accountable, as like transparent

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Speaker 1: as as possible, you know, so yeah, definitely yeah, And

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Speaker 1: we believe in I want to say, especially when we're

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Speaker 1: engaging with really sensitive topics that you know, I can

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Speaker 1: only speak to my own experiences and if I am

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Speaker 1: not able to speak on somebody else's experience, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to try and do it because I

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Speaker 1: don't want to be inaccurate or inauthentic. But if you

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Speaker 1: feel like there's a topic you want to hear us discuss,

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00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: and we want to have guests on the podcast, on

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Speaker 1: the on the radio program, we want to have guests

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Speaker 1: to come and talk about experiences that we don't have

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Speaker 1: right because I'm I can't be an expert on anybody

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Speaker 1: else's reality. UM, And we believe in calling in right

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Speaker 1: because this we want this to be about learning and

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00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: healing and advancing and moving forward and loving each other,

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00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: not tearing each other down. So I personally don't tolerate

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Speaker 1: like hate culture that we live in, Like it's so toxic,

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00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: it can be very toxic. I think sometimes it does

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00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: have to happen. It's important. Um it does. But I

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Speaker 1: think that what I would hope for is for like

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Speaker 1: a call in culture where we're Okay, let's talk about this,

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Speaker 1: let's explore, let's unpack, let's learn, and let's grow, let's evolved. Definitely,

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Speaker 1: Like remember that we are two women of color, you know,

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Speaker 1: that are creating art and like trying to carve out

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Speaker 1: space for folks like us so they can experience can

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00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: relate to our experiences. Um So keep that in mind

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Speaker 1: that we're human. We're human. I have feelings. I'm a ciona. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: I'm very sensitive. You know. It's so let's let's let's

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Speaker 1: be gentle with one another. That like that is a

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Speaker 1: theme that I think we will probably carry throughout Gentle Podcast. Gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: is healing this non linear healing that we keep talking

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Speaker 1: about you yeah, absolutely absolutely, and um so yeah, So

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Speaker 1: listen to us on SoundCloud. And on iTunes,