1 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson of 2 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome to the Drive. 3 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: I'm Dale Alley here with Matt Williamson. Matt. It is 4 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: a Friday, which means, well, we are exactly three weeks 5 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: out from day two of the draft, and as we 6 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: get closer and closer, I I started throwing together my 7 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: list of top twenty potential Steelers in this draft. Because, 8 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: as we've talked about a lot, the Steelers, once they 9 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: get through their their visits and everything here in the 10 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: next couple of weeks, what they'll do is they'll put 11 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: their board together and then they'll come up with a 12 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,919 Speaker 1: list of twenty guys that they would be more than 13 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: happy to take at pick twenty, since that's the pick 14 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: that they have. If they had picked if they had 15 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: picked fifteen, they would have fifteen guys on the list, 16 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: they had thirty two, they would have thirty two guys 17 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: on the list, but they have twenty. So that's what 18 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: we came up with, at least that's what I came 19 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: up with. Uh just sat down and did this today. 20 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: And it's an interesting thing there. This isn't the exact 21 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: what this is not my top twenty players in the draft. 22 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: It's through the Steeler's eyes, Right through the Steeler's eyes. Uh. 23 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: So here's what I came up with. Before you do, 24 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: let me stop you because I've thrown you a curveball. 25 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: You texted me, I'm gonna pull full transparency. You and 26 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: I have been teasing this for a couple of weeks. 27 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 1: We've done it the last few years. I've been kicking 28 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: it around in my cranium for a while. Now. You know, 29 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: will He made my top twenty will He? And you 30 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: texted me your list, and as soon as you did, 31 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: I shut up closed my app. I didn't want to 32 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: see it, you know. So I had a little bit 33 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: of time between when you texted me that and when 34 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: we hit record. So I sort of did something too, 35 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: And I just want to tell you how I did 36 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: it real quick. If you don't mind, Yeah, go ahead. 37 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: I'm guessing we're both going to agree on this. But 38 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: I came up with ten players last year. I racked 39 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: him one to twenty, and I'm like, why am I 40 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: wasting time with these top couple? I came up with 41 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: ten that I just called gone. You know that they're 42 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: not going to be there, and then I have what 43 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: do you say that you know? I know it Allay 44 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: all Collins situation comes up or a war and SEP 45 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: situation comes up, right, and these guys dropped down the list, 46 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you're like, oh, this guy 47 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: is available, you know, I know. And one of the guys, 48 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 1: I'm not a one hundred thousand percent certain he'll be gone, 49 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: but I think he'll be gone. So I came up 50 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: with ten just because I don't want to fight Jermaine 51 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,839 Speaker 1: Johnson Verse, Crystal Lovey, you know what I mean. One 52 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,399 Speaker 1: the Steelers that will do it the way that I've 53 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: done it here, they will raps the top their top 54 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: twenty guys. That's what they do, yes, And and they 55 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: went in they'll get one of those top twenty guys 56 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: and they'll get one of the top twenty guys. So 57 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: I just peaked at your list to see if you're 58 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: top ten or anything like my ten that I said 59 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: are gone. Well they're the exact same ten. Shocking, I mean, 60 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: And obviously Evan Neo and Aiden Hutchinson, I mean, I 61 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: don't think we need to dispute those two too often. 62 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: What if Evan Neal and Aidan Hudson are both there twenty. 63 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, there's only so many minutes in the 64 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,399 Speaker 1: day to dispute these things. But you but you put 65 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: those guys on the list if you're the Steelers, because again, 66 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: you you've got picked twenty and so you want to 67 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: line things up here so that you know, all right, 68 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: we're going to get picking at twenty one of these 69 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: twenty guys. And as we've said over and over again, 70 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: if they get to pick let's say they get to 71 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: pick nineteen and there are four or five of their 72 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: guys still left, then you start entertaining the idea of 73 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: trading back or boy, these guys are going quick or 74 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: you know whatever. And they probably even have peers within 75 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: their top twenty two, like they're not gonna be happy 76 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: to get number twenty, right right, Yeah, I mean, but 77 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: you put them on the list, and there's some good 78 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: case scenario, that's worst case scenarios. If if everything goes 79 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: poorly in this draft, we get number twenty. If everything yeah, 80 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: if everything goes great, you get number eleven. Yeah, so 81 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: I want to get into your list percent here. But 82 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: all I did was I put a list of ten 83 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: that I think are definitely gone. They happened to be 84 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: your first ten to and then I still have a 85 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: I don't have my remaining ten yet, but I listed 86 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: players that I just put is my considerations that I'm 87 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: gonna go with, and I came up with nineteen of 88 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: those names for these next ten spots. Okay, so let's 89 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: roll through the tough ten here, Yeah, and then we'll 90 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: talk more about the eleventh through twenty. So the top 91 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 1: ten or Evan Neil Eawan, Aidan Hutchinson, Trayvon Walker, Cavon Thibodeau, 92 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: Charles Cross, Sauce Gardener, Derek Sting, like Kyle Hamilton's and 93 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: Jermaine Johnson. I do find it interesting though the Steelers 94 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: are bringing Kyle Hamilton's in for a visit. Yeah, he 95 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: those are my top ten as well. I just called 96 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: them all gone when I did this. Originally I had 97 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: nine that I had in the gone column. I did 98 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: not include Jermaine Johnson, and then I just kind of 99 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 1: thought about it and like, he's not gonna be a 100 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: Steeler either way, Let's just count him in the top ten. 101 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: The position he plays is not something thereafter. I think 102 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: there's a nine percent chance he's gone. After Stingley ran 103 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: as well as he did, I think he's a hundred 104 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: percent gone. But Hambleton's I think you would consider in 105 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:47,559 Speaker 1: a trade up in a Paula Mall who moved. Here's 106 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: the thing he has to follow. The Derwin James went 107 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: to seventeen and Derwin James was a he ran better, 108 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 1: jump better, did all that stuff better than Kyle Hamilton's 109 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: except maybe straight play football right, a little different style, right. 110 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: But safeties do happen. They do fall sometimes, and with 111 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: all the edge rushers, with the you know, some of 112 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: the other positions, you know, maybe there there's a possibility 113 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: that you know, and maybe it's a fifteen percent chance, Yeah, 114 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: that Kyle Hamilton's falls to them. Well, yeah, you want 115 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: to have done your homework on him. Um, you know 116 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: that's that's just the reality of the situation. Um, you 117 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: get thirty visits, right, I think one of them is 118 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: definitely worth bringing in Kyle Hamilton's. For As for Jamaine Johnson, 119 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: if he falls to twenty, the value is just too 120 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: great to pass him up. I guess. I mean, I 121 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: haven't dug in that is the guys ahead of him, 122 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: like some of the guys like these guys in the 123 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: in the teams on my list are probably all gone, 124 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: right right, right right, But I didn't want to wrest. 125 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: I didn't want to rank Jermaine Johnson against Jordan Davis 126 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: or Malau Willis. So I hear him in the God, 127 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: you know, I hear you that a waste my time on. 128 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: And I think he'll be gone in the top ten 129 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: as well, but there you never know. So starting off 130 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: with number eleven, I've got I've got Garrett Wilson, okay, 131 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: and I've got Jamison Williams right after him at twelve. Okay, 132 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: that's about what I was to say. That interesting, um, 133 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: in my considerations of nineteen, those two will definitely be 134 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: in my ted there. I think. I think they're on 135 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: their own tiers. Is the top two wide receivers agreed. 136 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: I would not put Burks or a Larva in that group. 137 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: I it sounds like if they're both there, you're taking Wilson. 138 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: I'm not sure yet. I want to win now, yeah, 139 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: right right right now, I hear you, And we just 140 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: don't know enough about Jamison. I mean, Jamison Williams may 141 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: come back and play right away, he may miss the 142 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: entire season for all we know, we just don't know you. 143 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: I think you bring him in as one of your 144 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: thirty visits where you make sure you're you know he's 145 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: gonna be at the medical recheck um, and you see 146 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: where he's at there um. And I can see a 147 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: situation where those two would flip flop. But I think 148 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: right now, based on what we know, I would have 149 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson ahead of Jamison Williams. And it sounds like 150 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: you would be thrilled if either was there. If that's 151 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:27,239 Speaker 1: right outside my top ten, yeah right, and they won't 152 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: be far from me either. I haven't weighed him against 153 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 1: Willis and those type of guys yet either other positions, 154 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: but Williams versus Wilson to me is close. At thirteen. 155 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: I have Trent McDuffie. I think if you get an 156 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 1: opportunity to take a guy who could be a really 157 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: good cornerback, and I think he could be a really 158 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: good cornerback, you take him. Interesting. I mean again, I 159 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: have not given this that in depth of thought. We'll 160 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: see who your next guys are, but I can't fight 161 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: you on it. I mean, Wednesday, I went on this 162 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: diet tribe about no Wammy's in round one. Trent mcuffee's 163 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: not gonna be a wammy. I mean, he's gonna be 164 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: a good football player, a full time slot or a 165 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: number two corner. He's not gonna hurt you ever. In 166 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 1: my opinion, Yeah, I think the bus value of the 167 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: factor with him is really low. I think he's a 168 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: really low, really clean prospect. Yeah, that carries a lot 169 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: of weight for me, and I don't think either, but 170 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: especially Yeah, you're at the bottom of you're in, you're 171 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: in the second half of the first round. You gotta 172 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 1: take guys. And this is what the Steelers have done 173 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: such a good job of over the years is they 174 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: typically take a guy who, while he may not be 175 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: a star, he turns into a valuable starter for your team. 176 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: And that's what you gotta do in the first round, 177 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: especially when you're in the bottom half. I'm not picking 178 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: on Already Burns, but this is not gonna be an 179 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: Already Burns pick. No, no, not where there's He was 180 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: the sixth corner taken in that draft. That's as I say, 181 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 1: there's probably he probably was a six corner on their 182 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: board that year too, you know, and they had to 183 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 1: think kind of a corner and knew that there was 184 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: a risk. Yeah, yeah, I had no problem with top 185 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 1: three at fourteen. We may differ here. I've got Malik Willis. 186 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: He's my number one quarterback. Again, I haven't built a list, 187 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: so I haven't weighed him against the others, but he's 188 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: gonna be in this neighborhood for me. I mean, I'm 189 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: sure Jordan Davis is coming up soon for you. If 190 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: they both were sitting there at twenty, which I think 191 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: is possible, I'd have a tough choice. And I've been 192 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 1: That's why so I haven't done my top twenty list yet. 193 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: Is I've been kicking around things like that, Like Davis 194 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: versus willis totally different ways of team building. It absolutely is. 195 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: And um ironically, Jordan Davis is I have him at fifteen. 196 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: I take I take the quarterback over the defensive tackle 197 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: because I think you can get defensive tackles much easier 198 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: than you can get quarterbacks. Oh, there's no argument in 199 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: the other direction for that. Do you want to know 200 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:03,599 Speaker 1: tackle or a quarterback in terms of scarcity and position value? 201 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: But one of them could be a whammy. I don't 202 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: think Jordan Davis can be a bust. I mean he'll 203 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: help you somewhere. He might. But you know, right right right, 204 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: it's sixteen. That's where it starts to get a little 205 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: hairy for you. Yeah, pretty much. And I bet I 206 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: bet we differ on this one. Well, I don't know yet. 207 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: Well I am. I just don't know who I picked. Next. 208 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: Is I have looking on my board, I have Drake 209 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: London next. Okay, I can see that, and I think 210 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: I think he's a safe double. I think he'll play 211 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: a lot of snaps for you. I think he'll be valuable. 212 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:39,599 Speaker 1: We still haven't seen him run his pro days and 213 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: until the sixteenth of April, um, so that you know, 214 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: there's a little bit time there. But again, I think 215 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: if he goes out and runs anything sub four six, um, 216 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: he's I'd say even sub four six five. Yeah, because 217 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: he's just so it's so athletic. Yeah. I mean all 218 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: those all those fifty fifty balls that Chase Claypool doesn't catch, 219 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: this guy catches, right. I mean I have not said 220 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: a kind of wonderful things about Drake London. He'd be 221 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: a tremendous pickup for this football team. Yeah. I kind 222 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: of look at him and I see a little bit 223 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: of te Higgins there, M I see that too. I've 224 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: watched him a little more this week. He gets in 225 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: and out of his brakes a lot better than everyone 226 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: that size basically, I mean he's not just a big 227 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: slow Marquis Colston guy. Yeah. If you remember, I think 228 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: Higgins ran like a four six. It is pro right, yeah, yeah, yeah, 229 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: and he's been pretty good. You take you take, you 230 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: take take Tee Higgins with That's who I think that 231 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: guy is. I think Drake London and he might be 232 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: better at the contested stuff. Probably is interesting. Yeah, I mean, 233 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: I can't fight you on that one. It's seventeen. I 234 00:12:56,240 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: have Trevor Penning's. I didn't want to start throwing as out, 235 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: but I was like, I wonder if I was torn, 236 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: if I was sitting there between Penning and London and 237 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: I had to take one of the two, who's my choice? 238 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: Because I think what Penning has is rarer. You know, 239 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: offensive tackles are a premium position. And if you have attacked, 240 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: if he's your left or your right or whatever for 241 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: five years or four of those five years, that's gold. 242 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: But I think wide receiver is the bigger need right now. 243 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: That's how I waited as well, like, Okay, they need 244 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 1: a wide, they need another wide receiver. They're okay at 245 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: the tackle right now, especially for a guy who's probably 246 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: just a right tackle probably Yeah, so yeah, that's a 247 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,599 Speaker 1: tough choice. That's the way I weighed that one a 248 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: sixteen and seventeen for you. That was sixteen and seventeen 249 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: at eighteen. And this was probably gonna surprise some people. 250 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: I have Dax Hill. Okay, I'm looking at my list 251 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: and of the names that you have not mentioned, I 252 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 1: probably would be in that neighborhood too. But I'll be honest, 253 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: I'm torn between Dax Hill and Louis Scene right now 254 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: as my safety too, and they're very different. And I'm 255 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 1: going to hide behind this excuse in that do they 256 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: want a strong or do they want to do it 257 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: all guy? You know, I think that they've shown their 258 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: hand exactly what they want for that second safety. I 259 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: think if you if you draft a Dax Hill, then 260 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: you're then you're probably signing a strong safety. And they 261 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: may have already signed a strong safety by the time 262 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: the draft rolls around. But Dax Hill helps your team 263 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: immediately as a as a slot cornerback, and then you 264 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: see and then you kind of piece the rest of 265 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: it together. But he's your slot, and he's a high 266 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: end slot, and he can do so much. I mean, 267 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: I remember when we did our one of the mocks 268 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: last week. Earlier this week, we took Hill in the 269 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: first round and then kind of said, I think we're 270 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: just done with defensive bats. Right, that's a nice feeling. 271 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: I mean he might even be by cornerback. You may 272 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: get him in, you know, right right, Rod Woodson, I 273 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: remember talking to Rod Woodson a couple of years ago. 274 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: We brought brought it up again last year, and I 275 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: when I talked to him, Rod Woodson was a safety 276 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: who they moved to cornerback because he was so fast. 277 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: That's what Dax Hill is safety. But he had I 278 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: mean his his straight line speed and his his ability 279 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: and coverage. He could play cornerback in the NFL. I 280 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: really like the Levi Wallace signing. And he prefaced it 281 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: by saying that absolutely, yeah, Dax Hill is a better 282 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: athlete than him, way better, you know. And one's called 283 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: a safety, one called the corner. You know, like if 284 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: one of them, maybe his technique isn't there as a 285 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: corner yet, but if one of if they both were 286 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: at birth coach to play press man corner. By the 287 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: time they're both twenty five, Hills probably gonna be the 288 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: better player. Yeah, no, I agree, I agree. At nineteen, 289 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: I have Devin Lloyd. Okay, I could see him being 290 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: in my top twenty. I almost didn't put him on 291 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: my consideration list of nineteen guys to think about. I 292 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: almost loved him off too. But yeah, um, it's tough 293 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: to come up with those last two. It really kind 294 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: of is like, do you put a wide receiver in there? 295 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: Do you put like I could see it being a 296 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: wide receiver? Yes, I mean there are some receiver names 297 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: that are staring at me a little bit here, And 298 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: I mentioned Scene versus Hill. Probably when I do my list, 299 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: they will be right next to each other. I'm not 300 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: sure the order yet. Um, but it was first off 301 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: two questions for it. Was Lloyd the only linebacker you 302 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: even considered? Yes, me too, Okay, I mean the Georgia 303 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: dude was not in close to my thought, although I 304 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: could I can see I can see kway Walker is 305 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: a guy. I love him. Yeah, that, you know, I 306 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: could see that being a potential, Like, Wow, there's a 307 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: surprising pick, but he's got the size and speed that 308 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: is rare at the position. If I could pick any 309 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: Georgia linebacker, I think i'd take Walker. Yeah, you know, 310 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 1: and most people wouldn't see it that way, but he 311 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: wasn't in consideration for twenty. I do know they're bringing 312 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: him in for a visit, so are they interesting? So 313 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: linebacker as a whole, though, I think it's easy to 314 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 1: say Jack and Bush are going to get every opportunity 315 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: to be every down Linebackers revived Bush's career, but there's 316 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 1: some hurdles there, and Bush didn't play well last year. 317 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: He potentially isn't going to be a Steeler next year. 318 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 1: I love the Miles Jack pick up, but he doesn't 319 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: practice on Wednesdays. I mean. The reason he was a 320 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 1: second round pick coming out of U C. L A 321 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: and not a first because he is a knee you know, 322 00:17:58,240 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: and I don't think that knee has ever gone away 323 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: in the pro level. And the way they structured his contract, 324 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 1: it's very easy to get out of after this year. Right, Largely, 325 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: every every contract that they signed this year is largely 326 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 1: very easy to get out of after this year. If 327 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: things take a turn for the worst, and you didn't 328 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,239 Speaker 1: draft the linebacker. You might have none this time next year, right, 329 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. At the same time, when 330 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: you start looking at it, there are five on the 331 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: roster that they probably like, and you probably you're probably 332 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: only gonna keep five, six at most. That most. Yeah, 333 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: that doesn't that doesn't include you know, Marcus Allen, that 334 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 1: doesn't include Ulysses Gilbert in those top five, Buddy Johnson's 335 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: you know, it's probably on the roster um. You know, 336 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: I'm very comfortable going to camp with the off the 337 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 1: ball linebackers currently on the roster. I am as well, 338 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: but I might not be in December. But I think 339 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 1: if Devin Lloyd, if Devin Lloyd is staring at you there, 340 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: his instincts are crazy. He's a really good player. I 341 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: can't say any bad about him, right, Yeah, he just 342 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: didn't run great well. You know, when this whole process 343 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: started two months ago, a lot of people considered him 344 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: a top ten pick because what they had seen on film. 345 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: And then he went out and ran only ran a 346 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: four six five, four six five, still plenty fast. Five Again, 347 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: if your instincts are good, that four six five is 348 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: actually like a four five because he doesn't take false 349 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 1: steps and some of these forty times too, like did 350 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: he really trained that much for it? I mean, you know, 351 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: we'll see. My final guy is Andrew Booth. Okay, I 352 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 1: see why. I mean just I just think the position 353 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: is again on them position, it's a premium position. He's 354 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 1: my fourth corner in this draft class. I think if 355 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: you have an opportunity to take a good young he's 356 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: an outside corner. He wouldn't play in the slot for you, 357 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: but he'd be a you know, again, the Levi Wallace 358 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: contract easy to get out of after this year. Cam 359 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: Sutton's contract up after this year, so I think he 360 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: needs a little work. But if a year from now 361 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: he's a starting press man corner that's six to two 362 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: pounds and runs of four or four flat, it's the 363 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: steel the draft. I mean, even if he does nothing 364 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: his rookie year and he'll play special teams, he'll be 365 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: a you know, it'll probably be a gunner for you 366 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: and do those kind of things. And you know, we 367 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: don't know what a Kello Weatherspoon is. Both of those 368 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: both of those guys are signed for two years and 369 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 1: they're both of the the Witherspoon and Wallace Steels are 370 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 1: essentially the same deal. Hm. We talked about linebacker corner 371 00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: could go south quickly, quickly, right right right. I mean 372 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: there's no Woodston or even you know, in his prime Hayden, 373 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: or there's no guaranteed he's a starter for the next 374 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: couple of years. Guy, it could be fine. I like 375 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: where they're at, I like their moves, but you have 376 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: to look at worst case scenarios too and be like, 377 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: I can envision this going south and it's not the 378 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: craziest and then all of a sudden, coin you have 379 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 1: to take a corner next year in the first round. 380 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: You don't want to be in that situation, or even worse, 381 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: you have to go get one ever free agency, which 382 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: is yeah, which Kim. You know if you if you 383 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: have to get a good one, it's gonna be expensive. 384 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: So that's my top twenty. Um, we'll go over you 385 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: your top twenty maybe sometime next week. And I'm sure 386 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: mine's gonna change. I mean change a hundred times. I 387 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: sat down and did this this morning in about in 388 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: about twenty minutes, and I didn't get you know, okay, 389 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 1: how would I how would I stack these guys and 390 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: that's what I came up with. Mine's gonna be similar. 391 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 1: I can already figure that these are Let's let's wrap 392 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: this segment up with this, though. These are the names 393 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 1: you didn't mention that are in my consideration list. Pick 394 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: It and ridder Burkes and a Larvae also Thoughts and Raymond. 395 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 1: I don't think he'll make my top twenty Wyatt, See, 396 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: I have no interest in whyatt Yeah, I mean, and 397 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: again these are nineteen names. Then why it's pretty easy cut? 398 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,199 Speaker 1: Why it's a defensive end in this scheme. I think 399 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 1: they're fine there, And he's got some off he's got 400 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: some off the field stuff that I don't want to 401 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: deal with. I think seen will be in my twenty. 402 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: He wasn't in yours. And I have briskers named down here. Yeah, 403 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: but five of those are easy cuts. Yeah, you know 404 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 1: why it's an easy cut, you know. Yeah, So that's interesting. 405 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: We'll take a break. When we come back. We have 406 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: Bob Labriola joining us. Haven't had that in a while. 407 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: We'll talk to Bob, see what he has to say. 408 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: Um again, haven't haven't talked to him, haven't. We'll see 409 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: what he thinks of the Steelers Free agent moves. We'll 410 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: do all that when we come back. Right after this, 411 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: you're listening to the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.