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Speaker 2: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up,

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Speaker 2: Drake Fire, Fam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Monday,

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Speaker 2: October thirtieth. It's Halloween Eve, and the NFL got a

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Speaker 2: little batty. Oh you like that little Halloween reference there.

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Speaker 2: NFL just got bonkers on Sunday. Personally, I had a

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Speaker 2: crazy weekend college football. I think we could stop talking

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Speaker 2: about USC and Caleb Williams. Can we please? That cow

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Speaker 2: game won an embarrassment? Kansas beaed's Oklahoma. Nobody cares listen.

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Speaker 2: My Sunday was wild. I did get to go to

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Speaker 2: the Chargers game. Buddy, who's a regular Straight Fire listener,

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Speaker 2: had an extra ticket of what with him and his pal,

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Speaker 2: And I gotta say it is very rare when you

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Speaker 2: get a no sweat cover in the NFL and you're

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Speaker 2: in the stadium and it's funny. Most of the time

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Speaker 2: we spent like, okay, how are the Chargers going to

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Speaker 2: And they just didn't. The Batman aka t Bag just

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Speaker 2: could not get it done for the Bears. Chargers get

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Speaker 2: to win and your boy gets a cover. Contest two

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Speaker 2: and three. Not amazing. Not amazing. I'm in the weekly

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Speaker 2: Pick Them League. You know I didn't. I didn't check

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Speaker 2: it because for some reason, I don't like working with

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Speaker 2: CBS at all for anything. But this pick them League

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Speaker 2: is on CBS. So I go to it late Sunday night,

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Speaker 2: having not looked at it all day. I'm like, ah,

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Speaker 2: must have been a disaster. Tied for second weekly cash prizes,

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Speaker 2: went eleven and four, but only two and three in

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Speaker 2: the contest. Another winning Sunday folks cleaned up in the

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Speaker 2: afternoon slate. It was awesome, but I went two and

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Speaker 2: three in the contest, and my ego is dented. I

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Speaker 2: also think that I need to open the podcast talking

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Speaker 2: about a guy who I gassed up just three weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: His name rhymes with Kroc Schmurdy, Rock Party and the

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Speaker 2: Niners trouble is a foot. So three weeks ago they

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Speaker 2: beat the Dallas Cowboys on Sunday Night Football, and I

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Speaker 2: crowned him. They won forty two to ten. Niners were rolling,

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Speaker 2: Niners were undefeated, and it was one of those performances.

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Speaker 2: Rather like this. In Rock Purty Top ten Quarterback, It's official,

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Speaker 2: lock it up. He is top ten Yes, I'm taking

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Speaker 2: rock Purty over Dack. Yes, I'm taking rock Party over

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Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins like he was delivering. Since that win, I

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Speaker 2: don't know if all brock Purty did was read his clippings.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he went to his head, Maybe he went out

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Speaker 2: and bought a sports car. I don't know what happened.

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Speaker 2: I have some theories I'll give you in a second.

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Speaker 2: But since that win, the Niners are zero to three.

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Speaker 2: They have lost to PJ. Walker and the Browns on

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Speaker 2: the road. We've been over. That game wasn't totally brock

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Speaker 2: Perty's fault. He drove them in line to set up

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Speaker 2: the game winning kick and Moody, the rookie, missed the

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Speaker 2: kick wide right, so that one's not on brock Purty.

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Speaker 2: But he didn't play well. And the bigger story in

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Speaker 2: that one that we didn't notice at the time was

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Speaker 2: the defense kind of gave up a bunch of chunk

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Speaker 2: to Minnesota and brock Perdy is rough. Now we find

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Speaker 2: out he was concussed, so he gave him a little

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Speaker 2: They did not have Deebo Samuel, the offense really struggled.

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Speaker 2: Trent Williams not there either, hurt the run game. Well,

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Speaker 2: they were going to get right against the Bengals right now.

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Speaker 2: I did pick before we knew that Perdy was actually

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Speaker 2: except Rock Party, I guess, and Rock Perdy was going

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Speaker 2: to be sitting while Sam Donald started. I picked the Bengals,

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Speaker 2: gave it out on a herd bet it, you know,

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Speaker 2: it was like Bengals and then of course Perty starting,

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Speaker 2: toward San Francisco, and folks, they got dump trucked, literally

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Speaker 2: run over by a dump truck. That's what happened in

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Speaker 2: San Francisco. Every time you look up, the Bengals are

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Speaker 2: driving up and down the field. Joe Burrow completed twenty

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Speaker 2: A flawless performance from Joe Burrow. And I know people

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Speaker 2: Everything was all good for Joe Burrow. This is where

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Speaker 2: it gets interesting. Did anybody think that the forty nine

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Speaker 2: Ers defense would be this putrid? Like? Listen, their secondary

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Speaker 2: the only reason I'm going to give brock Purty a

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Speaker 2: little pass. And guys, I'm sorry. You know, when I

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Speaker 2: issue coming off that position and admitting defeat. It happens

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Speaker 2: to all of us. I've done that plenty of times.

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Speaker 2: I'm not ready to admit defeat on brock Purty. And

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Speaker 2: here's why. Number one, Their defense has been more of

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Speaker 2: a problem the last two weeks than brock Purty. That's

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Speaker 2: a fact. They cannot get stops, they cannot get off

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Speaker 2: the field. Number two, Rock Party is down Trent Williams

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Speaker 2: they didn't have options. The run game is just non

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Speaker 2: existent without Trent Williams. Essentially the leading rusher for the

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Speaker 2: five different receivers were targeted. That's out of character for

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Speaker 2: the Niners. They're like Jennings, use check debo. They mix

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Speaker 2: it up, they keep you off guard. Five guys targeted,

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Speaker 2: only four guys caught passes. Kittle, as predicted, had a

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Speaker 2: monster game. Bengals can't defense tight ends. I you had

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Speaker 2: a good game, but ultimately two interceptions by Perty a

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Speaker 2: fumble by Perdy, those hurt. But if the defense could

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Speaker 2: Here's the real problem, the defense of the Niners. It's

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Speaker 2: defensive side of the football. Now, listen, a lot of

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Speaker 2: Sala and then they lost to Miko Ryans, and now

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Speaker 2: they got a new defensive coordinator. I believe it's Steve Wilkes.

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Speaker 2: You could check me on that. I might be wrong,

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Speaker 2: And Rob g I'm gonna I'll be with you. I

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Speaker 2: get a little healthy you come out of it. Here's

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Speaker 2: the problem, Rob. They're coming out at Jacksonville versus Tampa.

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Speaker 2: That should be a win, but then at Seattle, at

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Speaker 2: Philly versus Seattle, that's four or five tough games. I'm

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Speaker 2: not ready to say they're in jeopardy of Missigan playoffs

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Speaker 2: or anything. Insane like that. But I think you can

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Speaker 2: kiss the number one seed goodbye. I think it's forty nine.

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Speaker 2: Ers are not getting the number one seed. The Detroit Lions,

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Speaker 2: the team I told you keep an eye on. Let's

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Speaker 2: see what they do one day at football. We'll do

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Speaker 2: best bet later. You could take a guess where I'm

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Speaker 2: going and any Rob G's Raiders. Rob this doesn't look

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Speaker 2: like a number one seed. I know we're only midway

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Speaker 2: They got a lot of stuff to fix. They got

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Speaker 2: more problems in the Eagles, that's for sure. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And you know what's funny is I started the Eagles

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Speaker 1: whole situation to me doesn't make any sense. I mean,

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Speaker 1: a lot of sense, and a lot of it, as

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Speaker 1: that defense is entirely too talented and too highly paid

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Speaker 1: to be this mediocre the way they have been the

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Speaker 1: last three games against PJ. Walker, third string quarterback, didn't

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Speaker 1: next week Kirk Cousins will set him in a minute. No,

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Speaker 2: But he started off.

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Speaker 1: and the curse of the NFL quarterback. When you win,

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Speaker 1: But It's not like he had a super terrible game.

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Speaker 1: and I know some of it came some of it

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow responds with the ten play seventy eight yard

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Speaker 1: next play, So you know, what are you gonna do?

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Speaker 1: But this Niners team is in some kind of a funk.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe it's all just the injuries. I don't

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Speaker 1: think it's just Debo and Trent that then be out

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Speaker 1: is why they're losing. I think that they fundamentally need

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Speaker 1: to change away. They're calling their defense because Nick Bosa

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Speaker 1: team on Twitter saying they're running entirely too much zone,

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Speaker 1: as good as they are in today's NFL, you can't

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Speaker 1: So they got some things they got to clean up

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Speaker 1: for sure in the bye week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just so weird that it could happen that quickly.

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Speaker 2: Rob Three weeks ago, we watched them bottle up Dallas.

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Speaker 2: Dallas did nothing in the forty two to ten round.

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Speaker 2: The defense was not an issue at all. It was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: But no, I think they'll be just fine. I don't

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Speaker 2: Interesting uh huh.

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Speaker 2: This is a guy who was going to be a

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Speaker 2: free agent. I know there's a lot of optimists out there,

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Speaker 2: and I got your tweets, guys, I saw him. There's

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Speaker 2: a new a new Achilles surgery. It's gonna help it.

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Speaker 2: It'll get him back quicker seven months. He's gonna be fine.

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Speaker 2: Like what planet are you guys on? Are you living

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Speaker 2: in this Aaron Rodgers dream world? Stop? Get come over

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Speaker 2: to reality. Join me in reality. It's a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's tough at times, but it's fun. So

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Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins is going to be a free agent in March.

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Speaker 2: He's not gonna be healthy by March. March is when

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks teams are gonna have to decide what they want

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Speaker 2: shortly thereafter in April, And like, what is the market

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Speaker 2: for Kirk Cousins I know this is gonna sound absolutely bonkers.

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Speaker 2: Is there a world where he says to the Vikings, Hey,

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Speaker 2: I'll stay on a one year deal on the cheap

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Speaker 2: if you guys want a draft or developmental quarterback, I'm

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Speaker 2: fine with it. I hope to be ready early next year.

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Speaker 2: I might not be. I love the area, my family,

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Speaker 2: my kids, we all love it. I want to stay here.

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Speaker 2: I'll do a one year deal on the cheap. Team friendly.

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Speaker 2: I've made a lot of money. Remember you got franchise

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Speaker 2: sacked twice in Watchington. Guy's made a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: And where Kirk Cousins doesn't end up hitting the market,

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Speaker 2: like who's going after a quarterback coming off an achilles

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Speaker 2: That just is insanity. That's not happening. No team is

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Speaker 2: doing that. So on that level, I feel terrible for

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Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins. You can't help. But the reality of the

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Speaker 2: situation moving forward without Kirk Cousins, Jaren Hall is their

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Speaker 2: already bet on Atlanta. I think it's Atlanta Minnesota. I

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Speaker 2: them whatever it was, whoever's Minnesota's playing is a four

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Speaker 2: point favorite. I took them. I'm pretty sure it's Atlanta,

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Speaker 2: and you know, Minnesota is okay. They don't have Justin

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Speaker 2: back with no Kirk Cousins, and forget the wild card

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Speaker 2: playoffs stuff. Even though they beat the Packers, this is

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Speaker 2: probably a five or six win team, maybe seven. They're

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Speaker 2: at four now. The schedule is not difficult, but like

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Speaker 2: that's with Kirk Cousins, so like, let's say you win

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Speaker 2: six games, you're probably drafting eight to tenth. This is

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Speaker 2: not the worst thing in the world for the Vikings.

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Speaker 2: It stings obviously for Kirk Cousins. But I don't know, Rob,

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Speaker 2: to think of that kind of thing has ever happened before.

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Speaker 2: But nothing is ringing a bell.

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Speaker 1: He was having a career season top three in yards passing,

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Speaker 1: a what is arguably the worst injury you could have

427
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker 1: in sports, and achilles injury has replaced the acl as

428
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 1: like the one you just you know there's no coming

429
00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,679
Speaker 1: back from that at one hundred percent, Like, guys just

430
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 1: do not do that, unless especially at the back out

431
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 1: of their career. And so it almost makes you think

432
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 1: that whatever teams that may have been interested him in

433
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 1: the offseason to sign him in free agency, you can

434
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: just cross them right off the list because what team

435
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 1: is going to give him a lucrative deal coming off

436
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 1: of an Achilles' injury when you don't even know when

437
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: he's going to be able to play next season. So

438
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, well again, he has to go back

439
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 1: to Minnesota. Minnesota to your point, now without Kirk Cousins,

440
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 1: I would guess is probably gonna free fall, you know,

441
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 1: they looked like they were a little spunky there for

442
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 1: a minute. But if they slip down in the draft,

443
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,880
Speaker 1: I mean, come December, they might just tank altogether. Might say,

444
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: you know what, justin Jefferson, don't even worry about it.

445
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,719
Speaker 1: Rest that hamstring. We know you're dealing with some stuff.

446
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 1: We'll rest you. We'll sign you a big deal of

447
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 1: this offseason. kJ Hawkinson. Now you're nicked up every other game,

448
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 1: you leave for a few plays and come back. We'll

449
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: shut you down here around late around Thanksgiving, and then

450
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 1: we'll pack it in. We're already paid. We'll be fine.

451
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 1: And so suddenly they're picking in the top five and

452
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 1: they have their pick of the litter of you know,

453
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: any number of course, whatever, whatever their flavor is, there's

454
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: a guy out there for that, you know.

455
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 2: So.

456
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 1: And then, as you mentioned this, Kirk Cousins even want

457
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 1: to come back on a one year deal, knowing that

458
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 1: before this injury he was playing as well or better

459
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 1: than any quarterback in football. It sucks, man, It just

460
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 1: really sucks.

461
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476
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Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of like any scenario where where

477
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 2: cousins could go somewhere else. And I looked up and

478
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 2: down the league, like remember we were well I was.

479
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to put Rob in the crazies group

480
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 2: with myself. I thought Atlanta had a shot, and remember

481
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 2: you saw what happened in Lanta Alanta this weekend. Desmond

482
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 2: Ritter turning the ball over, fumbling, bumbling, and replaced by

483
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 2: Taylor Heineke Atlanta lost. I did like Atlanta and that

484
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 2: I bet them and they did not come through. But

485
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 2: I want to quickly go back to the Jets because

486
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 2: that's where I had wanted Kirk Cousins to go. Okay,

487
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,919
Speaker 2: And I know there's a lot of Jets listeners on

488
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 2: this pod because they know I'm a Jets fan. Okay,

489
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 2: and I have said there's a world where Zach Wilson

490
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 2: could mark Sanchez this offense into the playoffs and steal

491
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 2: a game or two behind a great defense. Guys, I'm

492
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 2: being as brutally honest as I can. Zach Wilson seventeen

493
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,439
Speaker 2: of thirty six at home. I know they weren't the

494
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 2: home team. The Giants were the home team two of

495
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 2: fifteen on third down, zero for two in the red zone.

496
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 2: They could not run the football. He was sacked four times,

497
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:38,199
Speaker 2: eating two of the sacks that sansus that Zach Wilson eight.

498
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,439
Speaker 2: I was at my son's volleyball tournament watching on red zone.

499
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 2: I audibly had to like walk away from the court.

500
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 2: I had my earbut in and I'm muttering f bombs

501
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 2: to myself, and I was just so frustrated, Like you

502
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 2: throw theffing ball away. What are you doing? Don't you

503
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 2: see that defender coming? Came on? Tibeau is in the

504
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 2: vicinity often, Please Zach throw the ball away. I don't know.

505
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 2: I just don't think my Jets can get to the

506
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 2: playoffs with Zach Wilson playing this poorly. And this was

507
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 2: against the New York Giants, not like some vaunted defense. Yes,

508
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 2: the Giants have been better lately, but the one Jets

509
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 2: touchdown came on a breeze hal dump off that he

510
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 2: made plays and went fifty yards. Okay the touchdown. First

511
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 2: of all, the Jets got lucky. I forgot to mention

512
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 2: that at the outset we got lucky af as the

513
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 2: kids like to say, Giants Jets fail on fourth down.

514
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 2: Giants are in the red zone fourth and one, Brian Dabole,

515
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 2: I mean, thank you. My guy decides we're not going

516
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 2: to go for fourth and one to ice the game

517
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 2: and make them go to the length of the field.

518
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 2: Let's kick in the rain Shank City. The Jets have life.

519
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 2: I even got a text from a buddy who said

520
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 2: brutal Jets loss as the Giants were lining up to kick.

521
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 2: So I'm thinking, oh, oh, oh, I guess he makes

522
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 2: this damn why did you send me that text? I

523
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 2: guess I'm on behind, but then the kick missed and

524
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 2: I was like, am I that far behind? On red zone?

525
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 2: Waiting for the Jets loss? And then Zach Wilson, who

526
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 2: did Jack Squad all game, comes through with two huge

527
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 2: bombs Jets at a field goal overtime. And at this point,

528
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 2: the New York Giants are down to their backup quarterback

529
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 2: because Tyrod Taylor something happened to him. I don't even

530
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 2: know whose backup is, but his name is Tommy DeVito.

531
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 2: Sounds like a bouncer on Long Island. He apparently went

532
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 2: to Illinois. I'm looking up his career stats here. Tommy

533
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 2: DeVito had never played in an NFL game. He had

534
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 2: to go up against the Jets defense. Tommy DeVito the

535
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: immortal two of seven minus one yards the New York Giants. Folks,

536
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 2: I rob I could have heard. Please check me on this.

537
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 2: I thought I heard the announcer again. I'm watching on

538
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 2: red Zone on my phone or my son's volleyball tournament,

539
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 2: and I could have swore the announcer goes, this is

540
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 2: like on the Giants final drive when they're setting up

541
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 2: that uh that field goal to like Ice go up

542
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 2: by six the Giants, who haven't completed a pass since

543
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 2: the second quarter. I was like, that cannot possibly be right.

544
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 2: The New York Giants passing were six of fourteen for

545
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 2: negative nine yards. Their receivers are you ready for this?

546
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 2: Darren Waller one catch four yards, Matt Brito one catch

547
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 2: four yards. This doesn't seem real, Rob, Saquon Barkley three

548
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 2: catches zero yards. What that's it? And Darius Layton one catch,

549
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 2: negative one yard. I know the Jets with soft Gardner

550
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 2: the secondary is awesome. It ain't that awesome? Come on, Rob.

551
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 2: Other than like so receiving yards, the Giants had six

552
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 2: catches for seven yards, But because I guess sacks take

553
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 2: yardage into account for quarterbacks for passing yards, the Giants

554
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 2: then came up with negative nine passing yards. I don't

555
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 2: know how to explain this tire fire of a game

556
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 2: where there was like twenty five punts, But it happened,

557
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 2: and the Jets won. And I will take and I'll

558
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 2: put on my ski mask and I will get in

559
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 2: the car and drive away.

560
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gonna have to, because I believe in the

561
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: first half of that game, the Jets and Giants were

562
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: a combined oh for eighteen on third down. So I

563
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: mean that's just encapsulates what went wrong for them. Your team, though,

564
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: is in a really really, really tricky situation. They're four

565
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: and three, they're smack dab in the hunt of the

566
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: playoff race in the AFC, and yet that that nobody

567
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: believes that they're a legitimate playoff team. Right, you've seen

568
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: them play. I mean they held the team to negative

569
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: nine passing yards and needed overtime and a field goal

570
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: to win. Quarterback whatever, because everybody knows that Zach Wilson

571
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: is not not a good quarterback. I don't want to

572
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: say he sucks because people say that it's too aggressive,

573
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: But he sucks. You want to say, remember like he's

574
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say he's ass or that he's I

575
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: didn't say that.

576
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 2: I'm just asking if you.

577
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: Want that that's what other people say. But look, last

578
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: season he got Ben what was like three separate times, right,

579
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: Chris Trevler, Mike White, Joe Flacco. And you know what's

580
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: funny is, even though the numbers haven't been updated yet

581
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: for yesterday's games, his numbers are actually worse in scenarios

582
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: than they were last season. Okay, his completion percentage is up.

583
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: He went from fifty four to sixty. His yards per

584
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: game though down one eighty seven to two. His touchdowns

585
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: interception last year was six to seven this year it's

586
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: four to five again not counting yesterday's game.

587
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 2: But he is who we thought he was.

588
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: He's a borderline out of the league quarterback. Again, he's

589
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: probably not even a backup because he can't protect the

590
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: ball well enough for you to consider being happy about

591
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: him being your backup quarterback. And because of that, you

592
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: know that you don't have much of a ceiling to

593
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: reach out to. However, this defense is nasty. This defense

594
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: is up there with some of the best in football,

595
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: right there with the Baltimore Ravens. What we thought the

596
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: even Browns where recently not so much. But they are

597
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: as good as anybody in the league. And what it does,

598
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: ultimately is it puts you in a pickle because heading

599
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: into the trade deadline on Tuesday, I don't know if

600
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: you guys should be buyers or should be sellers because

601
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: where you are is exactly where you do not want

602
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: to be. You are in NFL purgatory. You're too good

603
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: to get a chance at a top flight quarterback in

604
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: the draft, but you're too bad to be taken seriously

605
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: in any kind of way by any objective football fan.

606
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: So I don't know what you guys do. I can

607
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: I'm willing to bet you do nothing, and you're stuck

608
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: exactly where you are. You finish seven to ten with

609
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: one of the worst offenses and one of the best defenses,

610
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: and you're right back where you were this time last season.

611
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 2: Well, listen, that's harsh but accurate. You can't sell like

612
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 2: there's I mean, you can't sell rub You can't. You're

613
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 2: four and three and I just looked up the standings

614
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 2: because I almost didn't believe you. So we can agree

615
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 2: that Casey, Miami, Jacksonville, Baltimore, and Buffalo are very very good. Right, Yes,

616
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 2: well a Buffalo could fade, but we'll see. I mean,

617
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 2: plus eighty six point differential is kind of impressive, and

618
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 2: we know the Bengals are coming. So that's six. Who's seven. Pittsburgh,

619
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 2: which has still been out gained in every game of

620
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 2: the season. They just lost Pickett, who knows how long

621
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 2: that'll be, probably won't play Thursday. The Browns have Deshaun Watson.

622
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 2: I don't even know if that's a good thing. Houston

623
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 2: just lost to winless Carolina, Tennessee. Listen, a couple Will

624
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 2: Levis bombs. I'm not a believer yet. The Chargers, the

625
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 2: always dangerous Chargers. And then I'm not even gonna mention

626
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 2: the dregs like I don't know, like they speak in

627
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 2: as the seven. They get to face maybe a Miami team,

628
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 2: that's not a horrible matchup for them. Listen, man, there's

629
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 2: a world where this team can do some damage. It's

630
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 2: not over brow.

631
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: I mean, when your offense average is in the teams,

632
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: I think every playoff team is a horrible matchup for you.

633
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,959
Speaker 2: Probably, But I'm just gonna remind you defenses work in

634
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 2: the in January. I know, defenses don't matter much of

635
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 2: the regular season because you know offense is stout up.

636
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 2: But in January, where you know you're being a little

637
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 2: more conservative with the plays you don't want to lose,

638
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 2: the game, scoring goes down. I think it's pretty clear

639
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 2: that the Jets defense has some potential to do a

640
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 2: lot of freaking damage. Man. I just I don't know

641
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 2: if they get there. With Zach Man, I don't all right,

642
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 2: we can't go through every box score as much as

643
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 2: I want to break down all the good and bad things,

644
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 2: like congrats to Carolina and Bryce Young Philadelphia Eagles. You know,

645
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 2: defense looking very very suss. I mean, we could go

646
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 2: up and down the league. I didn't even mention look

647
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 2: at this thirty minutes in rob nothing about the Dallas Cowboys,

648
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 2: and they're throttling of the Rams. And not to steal

649
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,760
Speaker 2: a line from the late Dennis Green, but the Rams

650
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 2: are who we felt they were, who I thought they were.

651
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 2: This is not a great football team, guys. I mean

652
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 2: they went they were down thirty three to three in

653
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 2: like the second quarter. I think the defense could not

654
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,919
Speaker 2: guard Cede Lamb to save their life. They made Dak

655
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 2: Prescott look like one of the great greatest quarterbacks in

656
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 2: the league. Bottom line, let's be real. This is just

657
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 2: not a very good like team. The Rams don't have

658
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 2: anybody on defense. Stafford banged his hand against the helmet like,

659
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 2: I don't know what Stafford's got left. Cooper Cup had

660
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 2: the drops last week and now he's like not doing

661
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 2: any I mean two catches, like, I don't know. Guys,

662
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 2: Rams are not good. I told you they weren't gonna

663
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Speaker 2: be good. Something magical happens. When the third quarter ends

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Speaker 2: The only thing better than sitting on your couch watching

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682
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 2: night football. Let me see what I'm seeing here for

683
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 2: the line on Lions. Oh boy, Lions Raiders. It's not

684
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 2: like a sexy game, you know, Like I know, Rob G,

685
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 2: this is your team. What's your excitement level for Lions Ratus?

686
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna watch it. I don't know if

687
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: that makes me excited to watch it, though, because you know,

688
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: as bad as your Jets offense is, I think they've

689
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: at least cracked over twenty points offensively more than once,

690
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 1: because the Raiders have not yet, So I can't say

691
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 1: I'm too excited about it. I'm expecting them to get

692
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: their doors blown off. Oh and it's just not a

693
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: good feeling, you know when you know your team is

694
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: overmatched basically every week they step on the field. So

695
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 1: excitement level on a scale of one to ten probably

696
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: like a two and a half.

697
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 2: You try to trade Davante, it sounds like third and

698
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 2: renfro is getting shipped.

699
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 1: You would think so, and that would probably make the

700
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: most sense of me. If you're not gonna use them,

701
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: you would trade them for something. But you know, the

702
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: Patriots West, the brain trust of Mark Ziegler and Josh McDaniels,

703
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: are telling people that, well, we know that he's a

704
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: big part of our offense, even though we never use him,

705
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: and you know, we just got to stick it out.

706
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 1: So I have zero faith in my team. I can't

707
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: wait for the season to be over. At this point,

708
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 1: I almost want them to lose every game so we

709
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: can get a new quarterback in Aaron and have some

710
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 1: hope for the future.

711
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 2: I made a bet earlier this week, feeling good about

712
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 2: the Lions. I thought it would go up to ten.

713
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 2: So I have the Lions at minus nine. They are

714
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 2: currently minus looks like seven and a half or eight

715
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 2: depending on where you shop. So I got a bad line.

716
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 2: You know what else, I got a bad line Rob Chargers,

717
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 2: and I felt stupid and I stuck with it. In

718
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,280
Speaker 2: the Chargers rolled, I can see almost a carbon copy

719
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 2: of Bear's Chargers unfolding here now. The one different though,

720
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: is DeVante Adams. One of two things could happen. Rob.

721
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 2: Does Davante Adams totally ball out saying like somebody come

722
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 2: get me, somebody dragged me out of purgatory, or or

723
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 2: does the opposite happen? They don't look to DeVante. He

724
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 2: gets angry and he basically says trade me in the

725
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 2: postgame press conference, like one of those two could happen.

726
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 2: By the way, shout out to Josh Jacobs for holding

727
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 2: out fighting back against the franchise tag Witning and then

728
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 2: not doing Jack Squad all season. I mean, gotta give

729
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 2: your guys out on that one. So I'm on the

730
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 2: Lions listen. I don't love minus nine. You guys know.

731
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 2: I love to kind of goof around with some teasers

732
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 2: in primetime. You know, the idea of what a six

733
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 2: and a half point teaser of Lions, and Preston even said,

734
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 2: don't do this. It's not amazing in terms of the

735
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 2: the value. But like Lions and the under on a tease,

736
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 2: So you do a six point teaser Lions minus one

737
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 2: and a half under fifty two and a half. Like

738
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 2: are the Raiders the Raiders? Do they? Ever? When was

739
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 2: the last time they topped like twenty five points? I

740
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 2: maybe that one game against the Chargers where they had

741
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 2: I think seventeen was their best one of the best.

742
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: Offense has not scored over twenty points. The one game

743
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: they had over twenty points, the defense got a safety

744
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: to put them at twenty one. So no, they have

745
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: never scored twenty So.

746
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, are they stopping the Lions? I don't

747
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 2: know that. They do like to play the too high

748
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 2: look and say we're not giving you big plays. We'll

749
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 2: keep everything in front of us. You can move the

750
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 2: ball down the field as methodically as you want. The

751
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 2: man tea bag did that last week in Soldier Field

752
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 2: and it worked. Unders risky, but a tease. I had

753
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 2: the Lions, and I'll tease it down to one and

754
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 2: a half and fifty two and a half. The other

755
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 2: two games I've bet this week are Houston minus two

756
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 2: in Tampa. I think there's gonna be value in the

757
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 2: Texas I know is a favorite, it's risky, and Tampa

758
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 2: can play d and Tampa's got extended rest. Let's see

759
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 2: what happens in Tampa on Monday and Tuesday, with the

760
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 2: deadline looming, maybe we see something spicy. Unlikely, but maybe.

761
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 2: And then Atlanta minus four as I mentioned against UH Minnesota, Rob,

762
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 2: did you watch any I know I'm not Wiedlessen, we

763
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 2: can't do this, But did you watch any NBA this weekend?

764
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 2: Of course I did. Yeah, I guess we'll have to

765
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 2: talk about wemby tomorrow. I am in love with this guy,

766
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 2: like I want to be friends with him. He's so

767
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 2: fun to watch, like just he seems so like happy

768
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 2: and excited and there's no ego or pretense. He just

769
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 2: seems like a normal guy. And then he just watched

770
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 2: everything blocked a Jabari Smith dunk on Friday night. Just phenomenal.

771
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 2: Tough one for the Lakers, by the way, Sunday night

772
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 2: in overtime against the Kings, what were you yelling at

773
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 2: the Lakers losing that? Or can we restrict Lebron's minute

774
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,439
Speaker 2: so he doesn't get injured? Or both?

775
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: Probably both? By the way, were you super excited to

776
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: watch Wemby and then Spurs lose by forty points on

777
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: Sunday and have him go four for ten with five turnovers.

778
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, Holly cow, I did not even see that. I

779
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 2: was locking on the Lakers after the charge.

780
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: He was not good.

781
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 2: I mean it.

782
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,240
Speaker 1: Not as bad as the Damian Lillard. I mean Damian

783
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 1: Lillard had that incredible debut for the Bucks. I think

784
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: he had like thirty nine points. We talked about it,

785
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: and then he followed it up on Sunday. He started

786
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: out zero for seven with six turnovers, finished the game

787
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: two for twelve, six points. So not a great encore

788
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 1: for Damian Lillard as far as Lakers go, I mean,

789
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: it sucks to see them lose, and because some of

790
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: the things seem so obvious is what they you do

791
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: to fix it. But when former Laker Malik Munk is

792
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: the guy cooking in overtime, it's hard to get too upset,

793
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: you know, because he's part of the Purple and Gold family.

794
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll get right here on Monday night against the Magic, though,

795
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 1: we'll see who are they playing, Orlando, Orlando Magic, back

796
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: to back Lebron TBD, because so he.

797
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 2: May not sit no chance he's playing. That would be asinine.

798
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 2: Hold up, I'm just seeing the Spurs lose by forty

799
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 2: to the paper Clips. So the paper Clips, you know,

800
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 2: kind of forcing Kawhi and Paul George to play, are

801
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 2: doing some damage. They were up on Portland by a

802
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 2: billion in that first meeting, Clippers were favored by nine

803
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 2: and one by You're right forty. I gotta say, Rob,

804
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 2: I do love watching NBA highlights every night because there's

805
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 2: just it's like dramatic, crazy stuff happens, like Zach Lavine

806
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 2: a fifty one point no assist game loss the Steph

807
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 2: The highlight of the NBA season so far is Steph

808
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 2: Curry just cooking the living shit out of Dylan Brooks

809
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 2: behind the back a series of moves in Houston. And

810
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 2: then Dylan Brooks thought he recovered. Steph Pump fakes him

811
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 2: and he like jumps out of his sneakers, and then

812
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 2: Curry bangs the three and did like the home alode oh,

813
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,919
Speaker 2: all the way up and down the court. Come on, Rob,

814
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 2: the NBA is so fantastic. All right, everybody, that's a

815
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 2: long Monday Pod. We'll be back tomorrow. Talk to you then,