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Speaker 1: Hi. This is Laura Vandercamp. I'm a mother of five,

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Speaker 1: an author, journalist, and speaker. And this is Sarah Hart Hunger.

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Speaker 1: I'm a mother of three, a practicing physician and blogger.

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Speaker 1: On the side, we are two working parents who love

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Speaker 1: our careers and our families. Welcome to best of both worlds.

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Speaker 1: Here we talk about how real women manage work, family,

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Speaker 1: and time for fun, from figuring out childcare to mapping

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Speaker 1: out long term career goals. We want you to get

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Speaker 1: the most out of life. Welcome to best of both worlds.

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Speaker 1: This is Laura. This is episode one hundred and ninety five.

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Speaker 1: We'll be talking about life right now, a snapshot in

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Speaker 1: time which you'll just talk about how life is going on.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you like to listen to me and

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Speaker 1: Sarah chat, we can share all about life right now.

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Speaker 1: The funny thing is that we enjoy listening to these episodes.

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Speaker 1: Of all the other podcasts we listen to, We're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I really want to hear about their life right now.

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Speaker 1: So if you don't, I'm sorry, just turn this off

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Speaker 1: right now. Sarah, how's life going for you right now?

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Speaker 1: It's good? Yeah. I think this episode is inspired by

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Speaker 1: like the mom hour. They do a lot of like

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Speaker 1: this is what we're doing right now, or like let's

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Speaker 1: share a week of dinners, and I always think those

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Speaker 1: are really fun, and we actually don't do them all

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Speaker 1: that often, although sometimes random stuff does come up when

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Speaker 1: we're talking about Q and A or other little topical things.

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Speaker 1: But we thought, you know, our kids are at kind

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Speaker 1: of interesting ages. I think Laura's got like the span

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Speaker 1: of teenhood to baby, and I have like moved on

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Speaker 1: to like the preschooler slash elementary, the what some people

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Speaker 1: call the sweet spot of parenting. So we just thought

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Speaker 1: it would be fun to talk about how life is.

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Speaker 1: And of course there is like a pandemic y aspect

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Speaker 1: to that, because we are now more than a year

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Speaker 1: into the start of COVID nineteen and we live in

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Speaker 1: different places, and I have found out there's this incredibly

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Speaker 1: regional component to what your pandemic experience has been like.

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Speaker 1: But we just thought we would share kind of where

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Speaker 1: we are. We are hoping not to get you know,

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Speaker 1: a lot of judgment if your experience is very different. That's,

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Speaker 1: of course, you know, that's what you're experiencing, and there's

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Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that. But this is kind of our

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Speaker 1: lives right now as they have been unfolding exactly. Well,

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Speaker 1: let's start with our morning routine. So, Sarah, we all

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Speaker 1: know that you have a elaborate and impressive morning routine.

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Speaker 1: How are your weekday mornings looking right now? So I've

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Speaker 1: discussed my routine, and I'm not going to do a

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Speaker 1: super long but deep dive. But most weekdays, I still

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Speaker 1: some planning time and some meditation time, and often write

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Speaker 1: so choices. Anyway, Sorry that was a digression, but still

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Speaker 1: And you're currently working from home? How often? Yeah? So

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Speaker 1: So there's there are ways to avoid the failure aspects

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Speaker 1: mean they do pizza lots of different ways. Breakfast for dinner.

429
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Speaker 1: Sometimes it's waffles, sometimes it's French toast, you do an omelet,

430
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 1: you could do you know, craps. I don't know, there's

431
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 1: just various things you could do, but you know, sausage

432
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 1: instead of bacon, smoked salmon, like, there's all sorts of

433
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,920
Speaker 1: breakfast fare, you know, but having it for dinner is

434
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 1: always fun. And there is something to be said for

435
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 1: putting a meal down and knowing your kids are not

436
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 1: going to complain about it, and I always was like,

437
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 1: I'm never gonn a pan orn to my kid's taste.

438
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 1: But even though I I do and I don't like,

439
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 1: I don't go like the direct kid food route. But

440
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 1: at the same time, when I'm going through a cookbook,

441
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,639
Speaker 1: there are certain things where I'm like, well, that's not

442
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,919
Speaker 1: going to go over well, and other things that I

443
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 1: know will be more of a hit, and that's okay.

444
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 1: We can find a middle ground exactly, all right. So

445
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 1: bedtime routines, what's yours looking like these days? Yes, so

446
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 1: it's not it's not amazing they're still all in the

447
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 1: same room because Genevieve has FOMO and does not want

448
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 1: to sleep in a different space. But the truth is

449
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 1: we're dealing with some like cusp of preschooler like loss

450
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 1: of nap sleep issues with her, where it's like if

451
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 1: she does nap and her school does I think, now

452
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 1: give her like a very short nap, which is helpful,

453
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 1: But then sometimes she like won't go to sleep at all,

454
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 1: and other times she like basically needs to go to

455
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 1: bed at like seven fifteen or something like that. So

456
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,439
Speaker 1: it's like it runs the gamut what she needs and

457
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 1: it's often not totally what the big kids need, who

458
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 1: are more in sync. So I don't know, we don't

459
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 1: have it figured out. But they're all in the same room.

460
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 1: She's in her toddler bed, the others are in bunk beds,

461
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 1: while we have a completely empty room next to it

462
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 1: being used for literally nothing. It has like a bookshelf

463
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 1: in it and it's yeah, and desks from when they

464
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 1: were doing school at home, but that hasn't been for

465
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 1: a very long time. And so we read. Oh, I

466
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 1: heard a really interesting hack that made me think of

467
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 1: my own hack. So I was listening to Happier and

468
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 1: they were talking about like having the kids read with

469
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Speaker 1: you for twenty one minute, because they were like reading

470
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 1: twenty one minutes, which I haven't done that specifically, but

471
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Speaker 1: it was like read with the kids for twenty one

472
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: minutes and then read your own book and have the

473
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Speaker 1: kids read. And I was like, I think I need

474
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Speaker 1: to enact. Read Genevieve's book for twenty minutes, read Annabelle

475
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 1: and Cameron's book for twenty minutes, and then the lights

476
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 1: go out, and if you want to put a reading

477
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 1: light and read your own book for twenty minutes in

478
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 1: the room so be it, or you can go to sleep,

479
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: because I feel like we're running into this issue where

480
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 1: I want to read like more advance things with the

481
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 1: big kids, but then Genevieve like gets bored, and like

482
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 1: then I end up reading Francis the whole time, and

483
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 1: the big kids are bored and like, it's just because

484
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: I'm doing them all at once. Now, if Josh is

485
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 1: home and we can separate them, which often he is,

486
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: he actually I feel like he's been home more recently,

487
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 1: which is great, then we should probably do more dividing

488
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: and conquering, even if we bring Genevieve back in for

489
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 1: the finale of going in her her finale. I love

490
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: how it's I say, twenty minutes with each set of kids,

491
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 1: that's forty minutes is a lot. That's it's a long.

492
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 1: But I mean our kids we try to get upstairs

493
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Speaker 1: at eight, and if they're in bed by like eight

494
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 1: fifty or nine, it's like a good night. It's it's

495
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 1: maybe it's bad, it's a mess. I don't know. Well,

496
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: whatever we do do reading, we always read together, but

497
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Speaker 1: it's not always functional reading because like two out of

498
00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: three are usually into whatever is being read and the

499
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: the ones being annoying and then you collapse right afterwards. Right,

500
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 1: the fifty gets us close to nine day, it's just

501
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: time to do your skincare, which we will get to exactly,

502
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,360
Speaker 1: and that's not going to change. I mean, I don't

503
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 1: think Annabel and Cameron need much. Cameron Falling needs a

504
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 1: little more sleeper than that, but Annabel doesn't. So it's

505
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 1: not realistic to think that she's going to like go

506
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 1: about an eight or something. But yeah, that's just where

507
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: we are. What about you guys, I'm sure it's really

508
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: long and drawn out. Yeah, it's long and spread out,

509
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: and I've done it, you know, basically almost every night

510
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:37,199
Speaker 1: since March of twenty twenty. But I mean, so is Michael, Like,

511
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 1: it's just you know, we're here, and you know, it's

512
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: like wow, when I was doing my time tracking publicly,

513
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 1: where I was like, yeah, I do seven out of

514
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 1: seven nights pretty much. But that will change, I'm sure

515
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: at some point. So the baby, it's you know, sometime

516
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 1: between like seven and seven thirty, I start it. If

517
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Speaker 1: he's been really exhausted, he took his nap earlier, and

518
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 1: it would be closer to seven, but if he had

519
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: a later or had a second nap, then it might

520
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: be closer to eight. Do some nights the bath, but

521
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 1: you know, try to talk about the routine of like

522
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: we do diaper, we do milk, we do sleep. Now

523
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: I'm trying to put in diaper, book, milk, sleep as

524
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 1: he's getting a little bit more able to focus on

525
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 1: books and things like that. So I nurse him and

526
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: then put him in the crib. He sometimes he conks out,

527
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: sometimes he screams, so it goes hoping to you know,

528
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 1: mostly he'll go down. Then after a while of screaming.

529
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: Wish the screaming didn't happen, but it's just, you know,

530
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: no matter how long we've been sleep training, they're still

531
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 1: gonna scream this little kid. So anyway, he was hopefully

532
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: going down. I tend to do a puzzle while he's screaming,

533
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 1: self soothing, self soothing, self self soothing in a screaming manner,

534
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: because it's hard to concentrate on anything else. So your

535
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Speaker 1: kid is screaming. So given that I can't do anything,

536
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: like I'm going to sit there and do my puzzle,

537
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: or because I don't feel like cleaning the kitchen. Maybe

538
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: sometimes that they see it done too, but anyway, hopefully

539
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: by eight thirty, I'm starting to think about Alex going

540
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: up eight thirty eight forty five. I take Alex, I

541
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 1: do stories with him, and our routine as we read

542
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: some together, not really usually twenty minutes, but he wouldn't

543
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: sit through it, so I don't know. I'm sitting there

544
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: waiting in the room, like scrolling on my phone while

545
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: he brushes his teeth and then disappears to go potty,

546
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: which sometimes is a long process. Then you know, we

547
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: read for a while, and then he has his snuggle routine.

548
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 1: He's very sweet about his snuggles, and for a while

549
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: over spring break he's like, well, we have our snuggle schedule.

550
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: We have to do five snuggles a day. I was like, okay,

551
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: we'll do our five snuggles a day, but at night

552
00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 1: we do twelve hugs, twelve kisses, and then a bonus hug,

553
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: which he says, a bonus hug is a snuggle. Okay,

554
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 1: So we do a snuggle and then we do a

555
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: bonus kiss, which is usually him like diving across the

556
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: bed to give me a kiss. Then I go get

557
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: Michael to come in and he like throws a ball

558
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: with him or something like for a certain like I

559
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: don't know, back and forth twenty five times, forty three times.

560
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: I guess is what it is. There's certain number obsessions here,

561
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 1: but often Michael is currently reading Nancy Drew with Ruth

562
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: at this time, so I go interrupt their Nancy Drew reading,

563
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: so you could come over, throw the ball forty three times,

564
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: turn his light out, go back over to finish reading

565
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: with Ruth. He probably reads for twenty minutes. He probably

566
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: reads like he could read like forty five minutes. They

567
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: get into it. It's really cute. Then the boys are

568
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: supposed to be up in their room at nine. That

569
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: doesn't always happen, but they know they're supposed to be up.

570
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: Then I make it in there at some point to

571
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: confiscate their phones. But often they've been reading lately and

572
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: they've been into books, so I take the phone. But

573
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: they have been reading during this time, that's what they're

574
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: supposed to be doing. But you know, if I haven't

575
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: gotten around to confiscating the phone, then I guess that's

576
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: on me. I will read or do more of the

577
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: puzzle if I'm into it. I am to be in

578
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: bed at ten thirty, which requires you know, getting face washed,

579
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: teeth brushed by like ten, ten, ten, fifteen. It doesn't

580
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: always happen. I often give myself an extra fifteen minutes

581
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: because I am not an early to bed, early to

582
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: rise person, So I'm like, I don't. I'm not actually

583
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: a let tired at ten thirty, although than I am, like,

584
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: if I put my head down, I do fall asleep,

585
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: but I don't want to be asleep. I want to

586
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: be doing other things than sleeping till seven, but that

587
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: never happens. So anyway, I have to be in bed

588
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: at ten thirty to wake up at five thirty. There

589
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: we go. I am cracking up at the forty three

590
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,959
Speaker 1: ball tosses. I had an elaborate number centered routine as

591
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: a kid that like I always think back and think,

592
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: like was I o CD for like a little while?

593
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: But I will tell you it resolved on its own.

594
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: So probably it's not that if you do like forty two,

595
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: the world will end it. He's not that way about it,

596
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: but it's just we you know. I actually am a

597
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: fan of the twelve hugs twelve kisses because it's a number,

598
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: like it doesn't go on forever. Then like, how about

599
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: one more? How about one more, it's like, no, no no,

600
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: we do our twelve right and and so that's then

601
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: it's done. Like you know, I love hugs and kisses

602
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: with my kids, but you know, you don't want to

603
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: drag it out for the rest of the evening. I

604
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: think at one point I did think the world would end,

605
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: but I get over It's all right, that's good, that's good.

606
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: So skincare, good care. By the way, I do not

607
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: think the world will end if I miss a step

608
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: on that. But I have become very good about my

609
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: skincare and my flossing since about age thirty eight. I've

610
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: been good flosser. The first thirty eight years of my life,

611
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: not so much, but since then really good, and I

612
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: pretty much always cleanse. I finally used up my Thrive cleanser.

613
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: I'm so sad, but I'm back to one of my

614
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: other favorite fund cleansers, which is by Fresh and it's

615
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: like a soy face cleanser. And then I kind of alternate.

616
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: Either I do my lactic acid serum, which is the

617
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: Sunday Riley Good Genes, or I use their retinol oil,

618
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: and then I do a moisturizer on top of that,

619
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: which I have a couple of different ones that I like.

620
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: So I do have a routine that I've taken many,

621
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: many years to figure out, and I don't know if

622
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: it has any effects other than I do find that

623
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: the lactic acid in particular does the certain softness that

624
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: nothing else seems to be able to replicate. So that's nice.

625
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: That sounds very sophisticated. I'm sitting there. If people read

626
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: my blog, I like arguing with myself at night over

627
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: washing my face, even like I don't want to. So

628
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: for whatever, it's like, I can brush my teeth without

629
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: the inner rebel coming out, but somehow washing my face

630
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:45,959
Speaker 1: like I don't want to. I don't want to wash

631
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: at any but I do it. Do you use warm

632
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: water or cold water? You know? I just turn it

633
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: on and no, I don't wait for it to warm

634
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: because I did not like to wash my face until

635
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: I figured out it has to be warm water. And

636
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: I run the hot water. Hopefully no water people are

637
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: gonna yell at me, but I run the hot water

638
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: ourselves to judgment on all kinds of things there. I

639
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: don't think it's the water that's gonna get it. I

640
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: run the hot water while I've brushed my teeth and

641
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: so by the time it's time to do my face routine,

642
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: it's all warm. Plus if you do that, you're not

643
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: gonna like waste all that like water effort and whatever

644
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: and not use it. But I I used to Actually,

645
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: I think there's something like terrible about putting cold water

646
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: on your face that would make me not want to

647
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: do it, Like it's like a you get like a

648
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: vagueal response and if I yeah, so once I figure

649
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: that out. And I also kind of learned a technique

650
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: of really bending over it. I'm like pantomiming it, really

651
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: bending over the sink, so I don't like get myself

652
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: all wet. Interesting, those two things have made me much

653
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: greatly enjoy my evening skincare routine more than I used to.

654
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: So I just tell myself I have to do it,

655
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: and it's quick, like it advanced over in thirty seconds. Right.

656
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: You just put a you know, splash your face, put

657
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: a little soap on, scrubby scrubby maybe a minute. I

658
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: don't beg it a win at whatever, like than a

659
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: towel my face off. I've been trying to moisturize. I

660
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: use the oda regenerous this big girl who can use

661
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: real moisturizer. That's a very good that was on the like.

662
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: They mentioned that on some podcasts I listened to, and

663
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: I think that particular moisturizer won some award in like

664
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: a lower magazine. So yeah, but maybe it's supposed to

665
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: like get rid of wrinkles. But I plan to go

666
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: back and get botox one of these days, so I'm

667
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: just not worrying about it too much. That will deal

668
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: with my wrinkles. Then combination approach, combination approach, yes, all right,

669
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: how about weekends, Sarah, what are your weekends looking like

670
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: these days? Okay, so a curtain thing. And by the way,

671
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,719
Speaker 1: we're back into most not all activities, so again this

672
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: varies based on comfort level and everything. My husband and

673
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: I are vaccinated. The kids had COVID in December, so

674
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe they're in an autoimmunity or their

675
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: immunity is wearing off, but I'm not as worried about

676
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: them anymore, and I'm not worried about them infecting us

677
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: because we got fizer in December anyway. So our kids

678
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: are back into tennis and in soccer and school full time.

679
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: They've been in school full time most of this academic

680
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: year five days a week. I'm in Florida, so that's

681
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 1: an option in pretty much every public school here, so

682
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: that's something I've been grateful for. And so on the weekends,

683
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: usually Saturday is like the activity day. Right now, Cameron's

684
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,760
Speaker 1: doing tennis, and actually Annabelle and Genevieve are starting soccer

685
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: this week, which I'm so excited. It's like Genevieve's first activity.

686
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: I cannot wait to watch her kick around a soccer

687
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: ball like I'm dying. So that's our activity day, and

688
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: then we try to keep Sunday like no activities. And

689
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: then Saturday is takeout night, and we still haven't really

690
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: gotten that excited about going to restaurants, and honestly, it's

691
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: just working for us, so we just do that as

692
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: a family. And then on Sunday, we either like do

693
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: outdoor outings. Sometimes we have some friends we meet up

694
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: with parents are also vaccinated, so we feel good about that,

695
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: and we I don't know, go to the zoo or

696
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: like do some kind of outing. And then usually I

697
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: cooked dinner on Sunday. Sometimes I go to the grocery

698
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,479
Speaker 1: store or get groceries delivered on Sunday, and I don't

699
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: do too many chores, and I tend to sleep in

700
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: more on the weekends, and then we kind of like

701
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: take turns when we're working out. Now my husband is

702
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: on call every third weekend, which is not a trivial amount,

703
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 1: so those are different. But and then I'm on call

704
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: like a lot more rare than that, every couple of

705
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 1: months basically, so those weekends are different. But our general

706
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: home weekends are pretty much activity Saturday, take out on

707
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 1: Sunday night, more relaxed family time on Sunday, and kind

708
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: of clean up the house a little bit within reason.

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00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: So we I mean weekends and weekdays, all of our

710
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: activities are basically back in you know, modified forms masked

711
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 1: kids Well, obviously can't swim with a mask on, but

712
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: you wear it when you're not in the pool. But

713
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: and with four kids in stuff, it just is a lot.

714
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:58,439
Speaker 1: We pretty much have something every day of the week Saturdays.

715
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: We have three kids in baseball and two in soccer,

716
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: and so I've sat there with the schedule. I just

717
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: try to map it out because you can deal with

718
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: two events at the same time. Three is harder. And

719
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: it's if one child has two things at the same

720
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 1: time then, right, because it is entirely possible that a

721
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: soccer game could happen at the same time as a

722
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: baseball Now, this was not supposed to because soccer is

723
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: Sunday and baseball is supposed to be Saturday. But because

724
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: of the number of teams, it is not universally on

725
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: Saturday for the games. So didn't quite work as nicely

726
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: as I thought it would. But anyway, well, you know,

727
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: it's probably not the end of the world if you

728
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: have to occasionally miss one game or the other of

729
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,240
Speaker 1: one of your sports as a small child, I guess

730
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: you know, in general, you want to be there for

731
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: your team, but it is what it is. I can't

732
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: make them be in two places at once, and I

733
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: tried to have different days for everything. But we have

734
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: some babysitting help again on Saturday, which is great. That

735
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: was a nice you know, we obviously didn't have that

736
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: during the pandemic, and we've sort of decided we can

737
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 1: take that back on and it worked out with somebody

738
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: that happens, so that's great. So I think by the

739
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: time this airs, we should both be vaccinated too. So

740
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 1: this is airing in May, right, Yeah, Okay, yes, yes, yeah,

741
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 1: maybe end of April, but yes, yeah, oh yeah, that's exciting,

742
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: and so yeah, they're just driving around a lot. But

743
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: I view it as a season. You know, my kids

744
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 1: were having this conversation maybe that you know, one or

745
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: the other was unhappy about there being two things on

746
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: one night after a full school day, which happened to

747
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: work that way for a couple of weeks before something ends.

748
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: And I said, well, yes, that's true, but you just

749
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: went through a year of like not leaving the house,

750
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: and so maybe you could have rested up during that

751
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: year a lot. Leaving the house for this particular Tuesday.

752
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: That's busy, but you know, whatever it's it will be

753
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: busy now through May, and then summer won't be again,

754
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: right Like most of this stuff doesn't happen during the summer.

755
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: So it's just you take the busy seasons where they come,

756
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: and then you deal with it when it's not. Oh

757
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,439
Speaker 1: my gosh, I just realized this episode is super long.

758
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask one question to you related to that,

759
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: what is your policy on like quitting an activity? Well,

760
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: I mean, so many of this stuff. It's a short season,

761
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: right if there's only eight soccer games, I think you

762
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,919
Speaker 1: can soldier through and get yourself to the end of it.

763
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: We had a policy with certain things that each kid

764
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: did a certain number of years of swim and you

765
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: know enough that you are able to swim, right, And

766
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: then there was one child who quit something that we'd

767
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: signed up for for a longer period of time and

768
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: wanted to We basically said, you know, go for a

769
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: couple more weeks and reevaluate to make sure that it

770
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 1: wasn't a one off thing, like if you can always

771
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: have a rough lesson or a rough practice or a

772
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: rough game, so you make sure you're not rage quitting

773
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: as they would say in the gaming world, and also say,

774
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: if this was your main sport, like you need to

775
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: choose something else then, right, So it's not that you

776
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: were quitting to play video games. It's that you particularly

777
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: don't want to do this, but here's something else you

778
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: are willing to do as your physical activity. But you know,

779
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: I don't have to do things forever, like if if

780
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: you don't like it, I mean, it's certainly a bother

781
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: to bring people places. So if the kid hates it

782
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: and there's no overarching reason for it, right, like, I mean,

783
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: I can see forcing children to learn to swim. I

784
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 1: can see forcing them to do for instance, religious instruction.

785
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: If that's something that's important to your family, that's a

786
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: family value, you can make them do that. Maybe if

787
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: it's like language classes so they can communicate with your

788
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 1: parents who speak a different language, or something like that,

789
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: I can see. But most other things do not rise

790
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: to that level of like family value. You know, it's

791
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,280
Speaker 1: just something fun to do on the weekends. So well,

792
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: you know, in general in life, you don't have to

793
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 1: do an activity forever. You move on to something else.

794
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,720
Speaker 1: All right, Well we've been talking here about our life

795
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: right now, real quick, we could do our love of

796
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: the week and then our Q and A right maybe sure, gosh,

797
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: I don't remember, all right. My love of the week

798
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: I already said themed dinner nights, knowing that Friday is

799
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: pizza night and Wednesday's breakfast for dinners really life changing

800
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: and wonderful, So heartily, heartily recommend. My love of the

801
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: week is just that the kids get to do stuff

802
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: again because it was sad when they couldn't, and it's

803
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: really nice. Yeah, hopefully that can continue, hopefully, all right,

804
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: So our question we had one from a listener and

805
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 1: I think this is really going to be for Sarah

806
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: here because you went through this recently. But tips on

807
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: transitioning children to new schools, anything you learned the last

808
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,720
Speaker 1: time you did this that you're now as you ponder

809
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: possibly doing it again, that you learned and you found helpful,

810
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 1: or that other people would find helpful too. Yeah, we've

811
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 1: actually done it a lot recently because we moved and

812
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 1: then we switched Cameron School, and I have written about

813
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: how we're switching at Avel next year too. So I

814
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: guess I have learned that it's less of a big

815
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: deal than it seems. Kids are resilient, they make new friends,

816
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: people move anyway. The pandemic has kind of taught us

817
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,280
Speaker 1: that things can change in unexpected ways. And I also

818
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: think the pandemic has allowed for like a layer of

819
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 1: fluidity about how we think about our kids' schools and

820
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: their learning. So I feel like there's been more shifts

821
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: than ever right now. And so if your kid is

822
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: going to be starting a new school next year or

823
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: in the near future, they're probably not going to be alone.

824
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: In the area where I live, there's also a lot

825
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: of like people will switch from public to private and

826
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: back again to charter, and there's there's just so many

827
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: different options that the switching is natural, and in my

828
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: experience thus far, it's gone well for each kid that

829
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: I've seen switch, and I don't even necessarily feel like

830
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: I've had to do anything specific to try to I

831
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,240
Speaker 1: think initially, like when Cameron was going to start at kindergarten,

832
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: they had these these days where we could like take

833
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: them prior to school starting and they could like see

834
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: the school. And the funny thing is, like I remember

835
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 1: missing work to go to these or like taking off work,

836
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: and in retrospect, I'm like, what's that. Did he really

837
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: need to like sit in a cafeteria because like other

838
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: parents were there, like it wasn't really like school anyway.

839
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: And I think kids, as long as it's a good

840
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: environment you're putting them in, and I'm sure it is

841
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 1: if you're contemplating a switch and thinking about things, then

842
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: they're probably going to do better than you think. So

843
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 1: I haven't found that there's like a lot that I

844
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: had to do, but maybe at least while they're younger.

845
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: I think the older they get, the more ingrained their

846
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 1: social groups get. And it depends on the kind of

847
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: kid you have. You may have a kid who really

848
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: only has one main friend, and as long as you

849
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: can keep that relationship going, they don't care. But if

850
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 1: you have a kid with a very close social circle

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Speaker 1: and you're switching, then you're going to have to figure

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Speaker 1: out how they're going to be able to handle that

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Speaker 1: and maybe keep some of those ties that really mattered

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Speaker 1: to them. Yeah, I mean I moved when I was twelve,

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Speaker 1: and in my mind is total disaster, which you know,

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Speaker 1: so to put that perspective out there that you know,

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Speaker 1: we moved to a different state and I went to

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Speaker 1: a school that was not really that great a school,

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Speaker 1: and so that can happen. There's actually some interesting research

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Speaker 1: that moving children in adolescents can cause some long term issues.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I have any long term issues, but

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Speaker 1: just saying in general, there are increased risk factors for

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Speaker 1: unhealthy behaviors when children are moved in adolescence. So that

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Speaker 1: is something to think about. If you are considering that

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Speaker 1: you will want to move someplace, you might aim to

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Speaker 1: do that when your kids are more in the elementary

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Speaker 1: school early elementary school years. You know, toddlers won't know

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Speaker 1: any better. Preschoolers and early elementary probably fine, but by

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Speaker 1: the time you're getting into adolescents it can be a

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Speaker 1: little bit harder. So you might think about planning your own,

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Speaker 1: for instance, career moves if you have that option, with

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Speaker 1: that timing in mind, not saying that you can't. You know,

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Speaker 1: you lose your job and need a new one, like

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Speaker 1: you may have to move, like that's life, and kids

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Speaker 1: will probably deal, but you know, it may not be

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Speaker 1: the first choice if you have options. Oh that's so interesting.

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Speaker 1: I think it happens to be where I live that

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Speaker 1: people so commonly will like kind of switch different types

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Speaker 1: of schools that at least at certain transition points, it's

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Speaker 1: expected that you're going to end up with a bunch

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Speaker 1: of different kids, like when you start high school or

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Speaker 1: maybe when you start middle school. But I could see how,

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Speaker 1: especially like if it's in the middle of seventh grade

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Speaker 1: or something, that that could be really, really tough. Well, anyway,

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Speaker 1: I'm that little bummer of an ending. We've mostly just

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Speaker 1: been talking about life right now. I think we're staying

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Speaker 1: here for a long time, I hope, since we're renovating

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Speaker 1: a house, putting a lot of effort into that. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: we'll be back next week. With more on making work

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Speaker 1: and life fit together. Thanks for listening. You can me

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Speaker 1: Sarah at the shoebox dot com or at the Underscore

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Speaker 1: Shoebox on Instagram, and you can find me Laura at

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Speaker 1: Laura vandercam dot com. This has been the best of

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Speaker 1: both worlds podcasts. Please join us next time for more

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Speaker 1: on making work and life work together.