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Speaker 2: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat. It's Afternoon Combat here on Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: the ninth of March twenty twenty, and Brian Campbell is

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Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere. Hi. Everyone, My name is

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Speaker 1: Luke Thomas. I am merely one half of your hosting

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Speaker 1: duo for today's Morning Combat. In the afternoon. We are

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Speaker 1: here to accommodate Brian Brian Campbell as he travels to

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Speaker 1: all the many beauties.

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Speaker 2: No is it? Is it BC's father? Did BC save

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Speaker 2: the day? I think that's what you have to ask

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Speaker 2: yourself right now, Luke.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yes, but if we're asking a question about whether

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Speaker 1: perilous nonetheless, But Brian Campbell, how are you good, sir?

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Speaker 1: I know you're in South Dakota. I'm guessing for all

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Speaker 2: When in Deadwood, Luke, it is good to do like

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Speaker 2: two jokes from Mitch Abramson Showtime pr But he's right.

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Speaker 2: He's right on, Luke, He's right on.

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Speaker 1: He certainly is. Well. We have a lot to get

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Speaker 1: to today, BC. Of course you will be there for

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Speaker 1: Showtime is the label that pays BC. I know that.

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Speaker 2: You know, I want Thiago Santos to still have his day,

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Speaker 2: We've seen it, I mean we've actually we've seen it.

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Speaker 1: Be it genuinely, it might be what is your best assessment,

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Speaker 1: to my knowledge, have fought for UFC title have been

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Speaker 1: in that place. Wanta Rice, at least for a time.

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Speaker 1: Was you beat a guy like that, You beat someone

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Speaker 1: who was in a place where you've never been before.

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Speaker 1: That is a massive escalation and growth opportunity for a

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Speaker 1: guy who, again against Arsay and against Kenny, has looked

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Speaker 1: the best he's ever looked. If this is Songya Dong's opportunity,

435
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Speaker 1: if this is what he's been waiting for to graduate

436
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Speaker 1: through the ranks, this is a hell of an opportunity.

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Speaker 2: It is because this is probably the last time, since

438
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Speaker 2: we're essentially writing his UFC obituary, Marice with a loss,

439
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:34,760
Speaker 2: we don't know what will happened, but this is probably

440
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Speaker 2: the last time that win's going to mean a lot,

441
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Speaker 2: and it certainly would mean a lot to where song

442
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Speaker 2: You Dong's going, Luke, I want to spin you dong

443
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Speaker 2: back at you. I didn't. I swear I didn't set

444
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Speaker 2: it up like that, Luke, Where and just say, look

445
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Speaker 2: twenty four years old and we have seen him win

446
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Speaker 2: and lose. We've seen him get a decision and close

447
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Speaker 2: fight against Was it against Vera that that was? It's questionable?

448
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Speaker 2: Was that the Vera fight?

449
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Speaker 1: Luke?

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Speaker 2: Am I making that up? Well?

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Speaker 1: The one against I don't know because the well which

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Speaker 1: one for song it do? Yeah? The Stamen fight was

453
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Speaker 1: the one that was the draw, but I'm not sure.

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Speaker 2: But the verifyight was the one in a key spot

455
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Speaker 2: that could have gone either way. My point is this, Luke,

456
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Speaker 2: I want to ask you, I mean, how bright? Because

457
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Speaker 2: this bantam weight division is so stocked with newcomers, old

458
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Speaker 2: commerce commerce, Luke, how good is this kid? Really? And

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Speaker 2: I hedged it by saying, I think he's still far

460
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Speaker 2: away from figuring that out. But he's had you know,

461
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Speaker 2: mister Favor behind him since day one, pushing him and

462
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Speaker 2: saying he's going to be the next big thing. Have

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Speaker 2: you seen enough flashes of that to have a strong

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Speaker 2: confidence level.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, yeah, if he was, if he was

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Speaker 1: showing what he was showing up at middleweight, I'd be like, Wow, Yeah,

467
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Speaker 1: this guy is gonna get a title shot pretty quickly, obviously,

468
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Speaker 1: But at bansamweight it's just a murderer's row. So you

469
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Speaker 1: ask me, does he shine? Does he show growth and development?

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Speaker 1: Does he show adaptation? He's a good athlete, powerful puncher,

471
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Speaker 1: he sets things up, he's a good wrestler. Yeah, he's

472
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Speaker 1: got all of those things in spades. And I'm not

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Speaker 1: here to say that he won't be a title contender,

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Speaker 1: but just understand where he's at. He's currently ranked fourteenth,

475
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Speaker 1: so part of what happens here. If he beats Marius,

476
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Speaker 1: who's ranked tenth, it would bum bump him into the

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Speaker 1: top ten. Eleven through fifteen is Edgar O'Malley, Ricky Simone

478
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Speaker 1: Song You Dong, and halfa Al Sunsal. Those are not chumps.

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Speaker 1: At ten, it's Marlon moriis Pedro Mugno's Vera. Again, I

480
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Speaker 1: think another fight with Vera would be difficult either way.

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Speaker 1: Domina Cruz, Morob Rob font Sanjaegan Aldo Dela shaw Yon

482
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Speaker 1: Like it's like he has clearly shown he is a

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Speaker 1: fighter of talent. He has clearly shown a capacity for improvement.

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Speaker 1: He is worth taking seriously. But that climb to the

485
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Speaker 1: top is Kilimanjaro. It's gonna take a long time for anybody.

486
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Speaker 1: No one is mowing through that, no one I can see.

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Speaker 1: There's just too much talent, too much parody. Let's have

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Speaker 1: a lot of confidence in song, you dong. Let's have

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Speaker 1: some managed expectations, just given what pass he is trying

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Speaker 1: to cross.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a very fair point, Luke. I would say,

492
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Speaker 2: there's a few other fights with some decent storylines worth

493
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Speaker 2: watching here, anyone jumping out to you more than any other?

494
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Speaker 1: How about the one right below at sadik Useff right

495
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Speaker 1: out here out of Camp Springs, Maryland. He has only

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Speaker 1: had one fight in twenty twenty and he had a

497
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Speaker 1: tough or not alan fight in twenty twenty one. But

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Speaker 1: that's it. He really hasn't competed very much. I know

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Speaker 1: he had. I think he had a really bad bout

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Speaker 1: with COVID and probably some fight cancelations, like a lot

501
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Speaker 1: of fighters, so that has derailed, you know, the normal

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Speaker 1: course of events. I think that's all corrected now, obviously, dude.

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Speaker 1: I've had I've been a big believer in Sadik Yusiff.

504
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Speaker 1: He is a very talented guy, but was a little

505
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Speaker 1: bit too willing to not use some of his own

506
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Speaker 1: talents and I think paid for it against Allen, who

507
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Speaker 1: is much more, you know, adherent to a disciplined way

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Speaker 1: of fighting. But Yusef has all the talent in the

509
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Speaker 1: world I think to be a champion Frankly in this

510
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Speaker 1: weight cast less I said it. I do think he

511
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Speaker 1: has that the ability. Whether he'll get there, we'll see.

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Speaker 1: Casserists should be somebody that you know. I know he

513
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Speaker 1: has improved dramatically, but to me he's a bit of

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Speaker 1: a sort of a litmus test about who can do

515
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Speaker 1: things in this division and who can't. You know, as

516
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Speaker 1: much as I believe in USUF, that doesn't mean anything.

517
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Speaker 1: He has to go and do it. So that's an

518
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Speaker 1: interesting one. Also, his teammate tafon and and Chuqui, I

519
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 1: think is how he pronounce his name is at the

520
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Speaker 1: bottom of the cart. And a couple of South Americans,

521
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Speaker 1: Columbia Sabina Maso and then Argentina's Guido Kennetti will be

522
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Speaker 1: on this card as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm into that fight. The Sadik fight of course,

524
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Speaker 2: and how about some sleeper headlines here, Luke, Alex Padata

525
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 2: very quietly gonna make his second UFC walk on here

526
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Speaker 2: against Bruno Silva. Dude, this clammer fucking rule. They could

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Speaker 2: be the call me in the van, Luke.

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Speaker 1: Dude, that's a that fight that was That's the kind

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Speaker 1: of fight. I mean, they used to go with heavyweights,

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Speaker 1: but the spirit of this fight is this is the

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Speaker 1: kind of fight that opens your UFC on Fox card

532
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Speaker 1: where they just wanted two guys who they could reliably

533
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Speaker 1: trust to ram into each other. That's exactly what you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get. May not get a brawl, but you're gonna

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Speaker 1: get action from these two. Luke love false fight.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna We're gonna make predictions later in the week.

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Speaker 2: But if Padata has a performance in this one like

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Speaker 2: he had in his debut, and because this week everybody's

539
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 2: asking about out as Sonia and of course he had

540
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Speaker 2: knocked out a Sony out and Glory kickboxing and he's

541
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 2: talking shit already, will he start to get a Chamaiev

542
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Speaker 2: like you know, hype Wave pushing him if if he

543
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Speaker 2: does this a second time, Alex padeda since making the

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Speaker 2: transition from kickboxing.

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Speaker 1: Now, correct me if I'm wrong. In his pro debut,

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Speaker 1: it ended beautifully, but the first round was you have

547
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Speaker 1: a little flatish UFC debut. Okay, sorry, his UFC debut,

548
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Speaker 1: it was a little flatish, just just the first round, right,

549
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Speaker 1: and I think he came up for the second and

550
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Speaker 1: then he just polished the guy off like it was nothing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 2: Remember the flat I mean, he's thirty four years olds.

553
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Speaker 2: He's gonna have to move quick, you know, quick to

554
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Speaker 2: find out how Grady can be. But you're talking about

555
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Speaker 2: November of last year at UFC two sixty eight. He

556
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Speaker 2: made the debut against Andreas Mikalitis and Luke eighteen seconds

557
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Speaker 2: into the second round, flying Nian punches. He he he

558
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 2: laid that MF for out violently. I don't remember him

559
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Speaker 2: looking bad. It was just a slow start in the

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Speaker 2: first round. Am I wrong, Luke?

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Speaker 1: Well, no, no, no, let me be clear. I'm not saying

562
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Speaker 1: I thought everyone oh he looked bad. He didn't get going.

563
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Speaker 1: He didn't get going until the second and then once

564
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Speaker 1: he got going, you know that.

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Speaker 2: Hype drink could be picking real quick because he's with

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Speaker 2: Team Glover and he's making moves, Luke. Also on that

567
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Speaker 2: main card, Drew dober Terrence McKinney. That's another banger.

568
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Speaker 1: McKinny on short notice. McKinny on short notice after bulldozing

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Speaker 1: Forrezi is. Yeah, he looks to be another guy. This

570
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Speaker 1: this again. Sometimes we poo poo some of these ESPN

571
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Speaker 1: Plus cards. This one looks like a great one to me.

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Speaker 2: Well, Luke, then you got like random Maverick. Uh, should

573
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Speaker 2: she be coming back this quickly? Like this? The split decision?

574
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,360
Speaker 2: Lost to Macy Barber. Then she pretty much got dominated

575
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Speaker 2: on the ground by Aaron Blanchfield. Now she's back quick

576
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,239
Speaker 2: against Sabino Mazo. She's only twenty four, but you do

577
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Speaker 2: have to at least voice that three straight losses at

578
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 2: this point is is gonna look pretty bad. Luke.

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Speaker 1: I did think she beat who was the one that

580
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 1: I thought was controversial? Was it the Barber one? I

581
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: thought she had the cards? Yeah, Sabino Maso one. It

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Speaker 1: depends on her style that she adopts here. Actually think

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Speaker 1: it's very winnable for Maverick. Maverick is a little bit

584
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Speaker 1: better about in and out and angular striking. Uh, and

585
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: Mozzo can fight long but but, but as a consequence

586
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 1: of being linear and a little bit flat footed, Maverick

587
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: can win this one. But it really will depend on

588
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: whether she can she can deliver on that game plan,

589
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,199
Speaker 1: which requires like a steady drum beat of attack to

590
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: do it. But I do think she has the capability.

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00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: So it is RISKYBC, but it's a little bit of

592
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Speaker 1: a calculator risk because the styles I think favor Maverick

593
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Speaker 1: depending on what she shows. That's what I would say. Also,

594
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Speaker 1: also the guy who filled in last minute against Sean

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Speaker 1: O'Malley with the green hair, Chris Boutino. He's back on

596
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 1: this card. He's taken on Guido Kennetti telling you this

597
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: car's got little gems all the way through it.

598
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Speaker 2: I didn't see the green hair coming out of the undercard.

599
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 2: I missed it. I overlooked it, like, Yeah, this is

600
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 2: one of those what times that shit start six six pm?

601
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 2: I gotta tune in early.

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Speaker 1: I'll have to double check the start time. I'll look

603
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: in here a second. But let's not forget BC. We

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Speaker 1: also have Bellatour BC. Check this out. You have in

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Speaker 1: your Bellatore main event. Of course, this will be Bellatore

606
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: two seventy six Bortch versus Burnell at the Family Arena

607
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: in Saint Louis, Missouri. Listen to this. In your main event,

608
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: you have a one forty five fight, right, Adam Borich

609
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 1: versus Mads Burnell. Adam Borch is twenty eight, Mad's Burnell

610
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: twenty eight. How many times have we said if you

611
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: ever see two sort of high level, promising young prospect

612
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: slash contenders in their twenties willing to take on one

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Speaker 1: another incluarly, this fight is of significance. Hello, it's headlining

614
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: the effing card number two versus I'm a number I'm

615
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: not sure I think these guys might be tied for

616
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: number two in this division. They're right behind. They're one, A,

617
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: one B or whatever it is. You gotta make time

618
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: for it. You don't see a lot of young, very

619
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Speaker 1: promising contenders crossing paths this early in their career, even

620
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: in MMA. This one has action written all over.

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Speaker 2: Oh hell yeah, and you know to know it's a

622
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,479
Speaker 2: straight up number one contender about the winner gets the

623
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Speaker 2: winner of the April what fifteen to three match? Pit

624
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Speaker 2: bull McKee too, Luke, is that it Friday April fifteenth?

625
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 2: I get that correct.

626
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Speaker 1: I believe you did.

627
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 2: Look, the stakes are high. Burnell, as you've talked about before,

628
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 2: you know, seven and oh since leaving the UFC in

629
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Speaker 2: three and all under the belt or banner, Luke, he's

630
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 2: figured out. What do we talk a lot more about

631
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Speaker 2: Borich on this side because you know Rashad used to

632
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 2: talk him up. He looked great coming in. He blew

633
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 2: away Pico. He's sort of figured himself out and is

634
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 2: in this spot at the right time. But Luke, would

635
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Speaker 2: you argue that Burnell is coming on a little bit

636
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 2: more right now in terms of who's entering with.

637
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: More momentum relative to Borich. You mean, yes, yes, yes,

638
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: both of them have tasted a little bit of a

639
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: wake up call about Yes they're good, but there's a

640
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: lot of things in your game that are not good

641
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Speaker 1: yet that need to be for you to really go

642
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: as far as you possibly can, and so they've all

643
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: had to reset. You indicated since leaving UFC, he's for

644
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: the case of Burnell, done amazing things. And obviously Borte

645
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: had a great win over Pico, but you know he

646
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: got kind of got run over by Darien Caldwell. So

647
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: they've all got some things to work on, and I

648
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: do think Burnell is a little bit more battle tested

649
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: against better opposition. He is coming in off that win

650
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: over Emmanuel Sanchez, whereas Borich has a good win over

651
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: a very very tough Jeremy Kennedy. But I wouldn't put

652
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: that on the exact same level. To me, I would say, Emmanuels,

653
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: I think you would agree, right, and that in that

654
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Speaker 1: one five division, obviously your champ aj McKee, then you

655
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: have Pitbull. You know, you could argue who's there, But

656
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: I would maybe say, honestly, Emmanuel Sanchez right after that.

657
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: So to me, more momentum, I don't know, but done

658
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: a little bit better work against somewhat better opposition. Yes, yes,

659
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: I would say that.

660
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 2: That way over Sanchez. For mattz Burno, I think Trump's

661
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 2: anything in terms of comparing these two and the fact

662
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 2: that it's seven in a row. But you know, Borich

663
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 2: Blue Whypico gets a win over the husk of Pat

664
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 2: Curry and then beats Mike Hamill, Eric Sanchez and Jeremy

665
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 2: Kennedy after the cald Well loss. He has put it

666
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 2: back together, Luke, He's he's really good at seventeen and

667
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,239
Speaker 2: one Borich and what is he still just twenty eight

668
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 2: years old? Yes, man, this is what you want. Like

669
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 2: you mentioned two guys in their prime, both on a

670
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 2: great streak, let's figure it out, and I mean huge

671
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 2: stakes for the winner here, Luke in Less in Less,

672
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 2: this pit Bull McKee two rematches such a instant classic, Luke,

673
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 2: and gives us all the answers to the questions we

674
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 2: had that their first meeting just didn't deliver because McKee

675
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 2: was that sensational in what a minute and a half,

676
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 2: it felt like we could see for all we know,

677
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 2: we could see a trilogy. I always say that, Luke.

678
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 2: But once you guys are that evenly matched and it's

679
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 2: that spectacular of a rematch, you gotta leave that door open.

680
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 2: Sometimes you got to go right back to the well.

681
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: So well, here's the thing, this is why I agree

682
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,719
Speaker 1: with you. It's like, look, Borich is amazing twenty eight

683
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: years old. Mad's Burnell amazing twenty eight years old. They're

684
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: in the main event for a reason. They might get

685
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: a title shot with a victory. As you indicated, here's

686
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: what I want to see, though, you might get the

687
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: title shot by virtue of this being a good win

688
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: and the placement in the division. But you got to

689
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: show something in this fight that would make you believe

690
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: you could beat either guy whoever wins. Like, as it stands,

691
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: what I favor Borich to beat either Pitbull or aj McKee,

692
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: I would not as it stands, what I favor Mad's

693
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Speaker 1: Burnell to beat Pitbull or aj McKee, I would not

694
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: after Saturday, after Friday anyway, excuse me, Saturday, March twenty second.

695
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Speaker 1: After Saturday, that might change depending on what they show,

696
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: probably not overnight. But what I'm saying is it's not

697
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: just beating a good opponent. You gotta show something that

698
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: makes you think, wow, this guy might have a chance

699
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: against whoever the chance may be on the line here too, Like.

700
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Speaker 2: Hey, Lauren Murphy, we love you, but like your plan

701
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 2: a b CND is not gonna work against Chifchenkos. So

702
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 2: we can't have you go in there just trying to

703
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 2: be yourself. We need you to to find some spectacular

704
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 2: shit hidden in there. Hey, Mad's Burnell and Borich Man,

705
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 2: you know, wowas here show us that show us that

706
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 2: you're you know, you are chasing that damn brass ring Luke. Okay,

707
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, look, I got brass ones. Bro,

708
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 2: all right, you know what I mean? I mean, there

709
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 2: are you got.

710
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: You've got unbathed ones, that's what you've got. Yeah, yeah,

711
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: all right, Uh let's co main event. Listen, man, I'm

712
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: not gonna lie to the audience about this one. Phil

713
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: Davis and Julius Angliscus are good fighters. Phil Davis is

714
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Speaker 1: a very good fighter. BC. I'm not we have a responsibility.

715
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: I'm telling you that there We're gonna talk about other

716
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: good fights on this car. That main event is a

717
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: is a no BS winner. But Davis versus Angliscus has

718
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: an extremely high probability of being very boring thru a.

719
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 2: False It's styles wise, it has that potential. Yes, but

720
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 2: we do want to fight out something, Luke. Phil Davis

721
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 2: is thirty seven years old, but yet he's six and

722
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 2: two in his last day and those only two losses

723
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: came against current champion Videm Nemcoff and one of them,

724
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 2: you know, both close decisions. One of them I believe

725
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 2: a split decision the first time around. So Phil can

726
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: frustrate Luke, and he can frustrate from the standpoint of

727
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 2: controlling distance to give his teammates hell and never allowing

728
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 2: them to really get clean. Looks at him, and he

729
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 2: can frustrate us because Luke, I always feel like if

730
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 2: he just did a little bit more, he could climb

731
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 2: over that hill that he always seems to level out at.

732
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 2: So this is a in some ways to get well.

733
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 2: I mean, Julius Anglisicus came into this tournament, the Grand

734
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 2: Prix last minute, you know, went in there was hungry

735
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,760
Speaker 2: when after it came up empty. But this is okay,

736
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 2: Phil Davis, if you're still of this elite, if we're

737
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 2: still going to considue in this conversation, come out here

738
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 2: and do this day in gliscis. Is it gonna blow

739
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 2: you a way? I don't know, Luke, if I'm Julius

740
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 2: a gliscus, though, I got to I get pill Davis

741
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 2: off script. I can't spend half the time on my back.

742
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 2: I can't be at the end of his jab. I

743
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 2: got to get into that clinch and I got to

744
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 2: figure out that. Look, I had a great opportunity all

745
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 2: being on short notice last time when he was the

746
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 2: alternate that filled in. Now he has a no excuses

747
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 2: opportunity of full camp is in glitzkis ready for this

748
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 2: kind of smoke. Luke. Those are the storylines coming in,

749
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 2: But I know I didn't say enough there to really,

750
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 2: you know, get you fired up, Luke. Okay, this is

751
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 2: gonna have to be a thing where they win you

752
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 2: over on the night, Luke. They're gonna have to come

753
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 2: through that screen and grab you and pull you in.

754
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 1: I have a strong spidy sense of that fight is

755
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,919
Speaker 1: going to get epically booed. Doesn't mean it's a bad fight,

756
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: doesn't mean it's a fight that shouldn't happen. That's not

757
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: my argument. I just feel like the way in which

758
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: these two match up, here's the actually, you know what,

759
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: there's an exception to that it could prove one way

760
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: or the other, actually that one guy is better. My

761
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,919
Speaker 1: hunch is it's possible, possible that Davis is actually much

762
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: better than Ingliscus, and therefore we're able to be control

763
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: and then potentially even stop them because there could be

764
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: enough of a gap. But honestly, I don't know how

765
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,760
Speaker 1: true that is, because Agliscus, he doesn't have the most

766
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: potent offense in the world, but he does have pretty

767
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: good defense. Yeah, this one's gonna be this one not

768
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 1: that fun. It's not that fun, not that fun.

769
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 2: Sorry. Davis is a minus three h five on DraftKings

770
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 2: is the favorite, and Luke and that main event for

771
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 2: anyone wondering, MADD's Burnell minus two twenty favorite on DraftKings

772
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 2: plus one eighty Adam Borich, which does seem about right,

773
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 2: meaning all right, you know, meaning everything we said right there, Luke.

774
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 2: There's two other fights of offering, you know, proofing ground opportunities.

775
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 2: That middleway about John Salter against the streaking Johnny Eblin,

776
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 2: and then that lightweight about opening the main card of

777
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: JJ Wilson against Godzi rabotanoff are you an ingredients that

778
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 2: these are opportunities for Eblin and Wilson, particularly to show

779
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 2: us what they're really all about in the rankings.

780
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 1: So Eblin out of att taking on John Salter. Salter's

781
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 1: a guy who's been around that belator cage, a long time,

782
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 1: good grappler, well rounded, can wrestle and can grapple, can

783
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: mix the two. Johnny Evlin does that as well, So

784
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: this is going to be a test of like how

785
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: well can he do that? But he is undefeated. He's

786
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: a big, strong kid. No one's been paying attention to him.

787
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: I shoutowed him out after his last one on this show.

788
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, if you guys don't know who Johnny

789
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: Evlin is, he has a tough fighting salter, but if

790
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: he gets past it, he's probably gonna start moving to

791
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: the top of that middleweight division very very quickly. Right.

792
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 1: JJ Wilson another guy out of New Zealand. I saw

793
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: him training with Justin Flores who is He is a

794
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: grappling coach to many MMA fighters. Keenan Cornelius was for time,

795
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: rond Rausi and now a lot of guys. Patty Pimblet

796
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: he was training with JJ Wilson as well. So a

797
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: JJ Wilson is putting in work with good people, good coaches.

798
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: He has shown a ton of promise. Undefeated. I like

799
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: everything about him, and Gatzi Rabadanov is a fucking hammer.

800
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: So this is another great fight, right, That's just really,

801
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. Like, I don't love the comin

802
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: event on this card candidly, but there's a lot of

803
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: other ones. BC. I can't believe you didn't spotlight Deanna Avsaragova.

804
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 2: Well, I was gonna ask her the women's flyway the

805
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three year old. She's four and oh two

806
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 2: and oh In the Bellatour cage, she'll be taking on

807
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 2: Kara Batara. But Luke, this uh native of Russia tends

808
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 2: to light up the ig if you know what I mean.

809
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 2: That's what I've heard, Luke.

810
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: Yes, I've heard rumors. I wouldn't know anything about that BC.

811
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 2: This is something I would true or false. Bellator implores

812
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 2: some of those employees.

813
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: Excuse me, they seem they seem to have a you know,

814
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 1: I'll say, I'll say this that part of the talent

815
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: scouting department is in full swing.

816
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,439
Speaker 2: Are we secretly employed in that in that role, Luke.

817
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 2: Cody Law has made some noise, winning all five of

818
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 2: his pro fights, All five have come onto the Bellator flag.

819
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 2: He's got a featherway bout against James Adcock. Should we

820
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 2: be paying attention to Cody Law yet?

821
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,760
Speaker 1: Though, Yeah, you should be. He just fought at Bellatore

822
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: last was to seventy one. I think he looks to

823
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: be This is another one of these guys. Remember we've

824
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: talked about. Bellator is a little bit different than UFC.

825
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: They do feature obviously a lot of high end talent,

826
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: but they can also get high end talent from composite

827
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: sports and give them a place to start and really

828
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,240
Speaker 1: slowly work their way up. UFC can't and doesn't really

829
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: offer that because they're much more exclusively about just the

830
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: elite end of the sport, and so Bellatore while it

831
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: doesn't have all of those many names and those resources,

832
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: it does have a comparative advantage by what it can

833
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: offer younger prospects. Dylan Danis has totally blown that, but

834
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: Cody Law has not. He has made full use of it,

835
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 1: and every time he goes out there he gets a

836
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 1: little bit better and a little bit better. If you

837
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: look at these fightsb see they look like opponents he

838
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: would get on the regional scene. But Bellatore will probably

839
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 1: tell you that's on purpose. Those are the fights he

840
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: should be getting in. We just put it under our

841
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: banner so they can have a long term I think

842
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: relationship with him. Cody Law is a guy you would

843
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 1: want to pay attention to.

844
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 2: One look, I gotta do say one more thing. I

845
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 2: gotta put the BC stamp of the Super Sloppy Special

846
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 2: Secret under the radar fight that no one's talking about

847
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 2: this prelim uh YouTube and Pluto TV main event on

848
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 2: this card. The featured prelim about light heavyweights Alex Easy

849
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Speaker 2: Poliesi and Josea Augusto, who was the dude who filled

850
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 2: in last minute for Romero and went in there against

851
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 2: Rubel Johnson and the Grand Prix and he went for it.

852
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 2: He had rumble on the rocks a couple of times. Luke,

853
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 2: this is gonna be gonna be a sloppy special one.

854
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, Okay, So so make sure you don't

855
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 2: you don't miss that ship. I'm telling you.

856
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 1: We got to get an alarm on the show where

857
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: it's like BC's slop Alert.

858
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, like, get this extra sloppy.

859
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 2: You know, lady, you're scaring us. Sorry.

860
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we need we need some graphics for that.

861
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: We need BC's official slop counter. Yeah. There are some

862
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: other going about the undefeated Romero Cotton, who was a

863
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 1: gonna stand out in the wrestling world. He's on this

864
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: card as well. BC very quickly, just want to make

865
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: a note of it so that the you know, we

866
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,439
Speaker 1: are being fair. Let's see one has an event it's

867
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: called Lights Out. It'll be obviously in Singapore. It has

868
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: five MMA bouts, three kickboxing bouts, and then two and

869
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: MOI tiebouts. We won't get into that part, but there

870
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: are two titles on the line, BC ton Lee, you're

871
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 1: existing one to fifty five champion taking on Gary Tonan,

872
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 1: one of the John Danaher Death Squad guys, and then

873
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: also in the COVID event, Bibiano Fernandez John Lineker. Tonan

874
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: is a guy a lot of Americans have had and

875
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 1: a lot of people have had their eyes on. His

876
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 1: last fight was, let's see, it was in twenty twenty.

877
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: He hasn't competed since then. This is a huge task

878
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: for him. Any expectations here, Uh no.

879
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 2: Luke, I'm not gonna do the Risen bit all over again.

880
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 2: But this this fell below my radar. In fact, when

881
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,919
Speaker 2: you say they're calling the pay per view lights out,

882
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 2: that's that's where my cable and the setup will be

883
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 2: when this card airs. Luke, Okay, why should I care? Luke?

884
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 2: Go ahead?

885
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: Right? And then and then one last word for Fight

886
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: Pass customers. There will be a LFA card in Brazil.

887
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: In Brazil, and in your main event, Jonas Billerino, who,

888
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: by the way, one with a spinning wheelkick on Contender series,

889
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: and I guess didn't get a contract. He's going to

890
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: be headlining in this one.

891
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 2: So I teamed it up for you to talk about it.

892
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 2: You didn't do it, Luke, Do you care about Eagle

893
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 2: FC forty six this weekend?

894
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. I'm happy to see the return of

895
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: Kevin Lee, and I'm always happy to see another promoter

896
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: join the mix and give fighters a chance, and they're

897
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: on a different network like in that sense, I am

898
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 1: excited about it. You know, I don't know if Diego

899
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: should be fighting bro I.

900
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 2: Really so it's it's it goes down Friday night. I

901
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 2: think it's a six pm Eastern start, Luke. I don't

902
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 2: know where you can find it, Eagle FC. Uh maybe

903
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 2: on that website that it was on last time?

904
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: What was that It was lex or something?

905
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, some shit like that. But hey, rate board, Ricky

906
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,280
Speaker 2: Van dejas At.

907
00:42:59,080 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: That's a good fight.

908
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 2: I don't hate that shit, Luke. Okay. And then there's

909
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 2: a bunch of future Smesh Factory opponents. Honey Marx makes

910
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 2: his return on this undercard. Luke.

911
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, okay, I mean Reggie all right, But the

912
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: return of Kevin Lee. I am excited to see how

913
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: he looks.

914
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 2: Future champion, future champion Luke, future Eagle FC champion.

915
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to topic number two. Here we

916
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: see if we can. We turn now to Kayla Harrison.

917
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: So the PFL put out a big press release they

918
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: have re signed her to what they call a multi

919
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: year agreement. Now, the terms of this were not clear.

920
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: Here's what we understand. The UFC did make an offer,

921
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: but apparently it wasn't a very good offer. It does

922
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: turn out that Bellator made a very good offer to her.

923
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: But for folks who may not know, what often happens

924
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 1: with these MMA fighters is they'll have a place where

925
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: if they get an offer, they're allowed to field offers

926
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: at certain intervals from other organizations, but the organization from

927
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: which they originally came often has the ability to match

928
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: an offer if they want to. And that's exactly what

929
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: happened here. Bellatore did make an offer, it turns out,

930
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 1: for Kayla services, and a good one at that apparently,

931
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: but PFL matched it. Bc she got blocked by Cyborg

932
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: on Twitter. But PFL is saying part of this deal

933
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 1: is that they're gonna go and move heaven and Earth

934
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: to find a way to get Kayla to fight the

935
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,280
Speaker 1: big fights that she can. Julia Budd left Belatore for PFL,

936
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: so that will be a big fight for her in

937
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 1: PFL if they can make it, and I'm sure they will.

938
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: And they announced a super fight kind of showcase division

939
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: where fighters in all different paper which I was gonna

940
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: get to it. I was gonna get to that, which

941
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: is gonna go on pay per view and will feature

942
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 1: you know, as you can imagine the guys who could

943
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,720
Speaker 1: probably other ladies who could move the units in that space.

944
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 1: How do you feel about Kayla not going to UFC,

945
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: not going to Bellatore, staying at PFL.

946
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, So we've said from the beginning that PFL was

947
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 2: the most likely end destination just because Luke I always

948
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,280
Speaker 2: assumed they had the opportunity to produce the most money

949
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 2: for her. And it's not just the one million dollar

950
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 2: opportunity with their seasonal tournament format. But you know, they've

951
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 2: got the ESPN contract, They've got a lot of celebrity investors.

952
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 2: You would think there's a if somebody can dig deep

953
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 2: and say this is the face of our of our brand,

954
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 2: and right now you could very easily argue that Kayla

955
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 2: Harrison is the face of the PFL. It seemed like

956
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 2: that was the going to be the end goal, and

957
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 2: in credit to Scott Cochran Beltur for making an effort.

958
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 2: They obviously outside of the UFC, have by far, by

959
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 2: far the best fight possible for Harrison if she could

960
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 2: fight Cyborg. But there are potential layers to this. So

961
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 2: straight up, did Kayla end up doing what was best

962
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 2: for her financially? I think so in the end, And

963
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 2: she's thirty one years old, Luke, which is certainly not

964
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,439
Speaker 2: Panic Mode, but it is let's find out now how

965
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: great you can be mode. I have to say from

966
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,919
Speaker 2: that standpoint, I'm disappointed. I'm not disappointed with Kayla. I'm

967
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 2: disappointed as a fan that this turned out to be

968
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 2: a tease her showing up in the UFC sitting front

969
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 2: row for Panya Nona in knowing that she'd gone back

970
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 2: and forth with the other two big suitors belt Or

971
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 2: and UFC, and to just put her right back where

972
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 2: she is. Okay, new season. But I like a Julia

973
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 2: Budd fight for sure, But it's also Bud moving up

974
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 2: and wait to lightweight, you know, And it's also who

975
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 2: else you got outside of there. Mick and Anderson said

976
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 2: she's not coming through that door. So little disappointed Luke

977
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 2: unless and this is again not disappointing in Kayla. I

978
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 2: don't Luke. The UFC. They have leverage over her right

979
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 2: because she's got to go there eventually, so it's easy

980
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,280
Speaker 2: for them to say, well, we're not going to overpay

981
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 2: you now. If you want to do it, come earn it.

982
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 2: And so from that standpoint, I have no problem with

983
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 2: Kayla signing the biggest check available. But something's gotta be

984
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 2: with this cryptic sort of thing in the in the

985
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 2: press release about she'll be the face of this new

986
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 2: PFL pay per view division, Because Luke, if that division

987
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 2: or whatever this means somehow allows for partnerships with other

988
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 2: promotions like Bellator to try to make this Kayla Cyborg

989
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 2: fight happen, then this could get interesting because then it

990
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 2: goes beyond Kayla. It goes to could we have some

991
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 2: kind of scenario where everybody who's not UFC gets together

992
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 2: and does some type of supercards or majors. Now, could

993
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 2: something like that fall apart before it even starts? Yeah,

994
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 2: in a million ways, it's as unlikely as anything. Luke

995
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 2: and pro wrestling. Remember in the eighties when vincick Mann

996
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 2: and WWF went global and everybody else tried to create

997
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 2: these super clashes and they all screwed each other out

998
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 2: of the money and it never quite worked out.

999
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: Nice, I don't remember that.

1000
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure you don't. I feel Luke, like I

1001
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 2: said to you on this show a couple episodes ago.

1002
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 2: You know, could the UFC ever get in the way

1003
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 2: of something like that happening since pfl airs on ESPN?

1004
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 2: You know, I wonder, but Luke, if this is not

1005
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,280
Speaker 2: leading to Kayla versus Cyborg within the next year, which

1006
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 2: Kayla's manager ali Afdelasis, I saw Aaron Bronstead or quote

1007
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 2: tweeting some of the things he got from an interview

1008
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 2: with him. That seems to be the plan Cyborg. I

1009
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 2: believe Luke has one fight left under Bellatortier, or if not,

1010
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 2: you know, only a couple left. She Cyborg has tweeted

1011
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 2: and teased that she's close to becoming a free agent.

1012
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 2: If this is all about, let's just create a structure

1013
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 2: in place where Chris Cyborg can come over for one

1014
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 2: or two fights when she's a free agent, and we

1015
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 2: can finally give Kayla at thirty one, a true test

1016
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 2: of where she's at. Then, Luke, at the end of

1017
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 2: the day, as a fan, you're gonna be all in.

1018
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 2: If this opens the door for promotion versus you know,

1019
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 2: versus promotion pay per views, then as a fan, of

1020
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,760
Speaker 2: course you're all in. But if this is just cayleb

1021
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 2: you know, slicing through the wheat fields with the sickle

1022
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 2: with no resistance next contract, she's gonna end up at

1023
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 2: the UFC because she's gonna have to, because that's how

1024
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 2: she's wired. She wants to find out how great she

1025
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 2: can be.

1026
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: Luke, So I don't I don't know might understand your argument.

1027
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: Are you saying she could have signed another deal. She

1028
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: couldn't have signed another deal? This was it.

1029
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 2: Because are you saying because PFL had matching rights. I mean,

1030
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 2: she did receive offers from from the UFC, I'm saying.

1031
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 2: So are you saying to me that contractually, even if

1032
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 2: she accepted the UFC offer, if PFL matched it, then

1033
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 2: that's end of story.

1034
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 1: Correct, So you're saying inevitably how it works.

1035
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 2: So you're saying inevitably she had no other choice. This

1036
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 2: is where she's at.

1037
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: It was either A signed this deal or you or

1038
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: you could just retire.

1039
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,240
Speaker 2: Yeah there, and I am then I am counter saying

1040
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 2: to you that that most of my argument still holds up.

1041
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 2: But my key question is what is the cryptic pay

1042
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,280
Speaker 2: per view shit about? Are they gonna wait outside?

1043
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm so glad you brought this up. I'm so

1044
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: glad you brought this up. You know what's so funny, dude?

1045
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: I remember when Bjorn Rebney announced something very similar to

1046
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: this with Bellatore in twenty fourteen. And it was months,

1047
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: not even weeks after he got the acts and they

1048
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: brought in Scott Coker. I'll never forget that. I was like,

1049
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: so wait a second, because now PFL is a little different.

1050
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: Bjorn Revney was you know, he had a heart on

1051
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: for tournaments. I mean he was convinced the matchmaker model

1052
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: is shit. The tournament model is the only thing that matters.

1053
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: And they were it was like the zone with pay

1054
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: per view. Remember that pay per view is dead, bro,

1055
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: It's like, well then why are you doing pay per view?

1056
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: They Bjorn Rebney was like that with tournaments, and so

1057
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: when he made this this idea where it's like, okay,

1058
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: if you've been in a tournament, or if you've won

1059
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: a tournament, I forget what the rules were. You could

1060
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: be in this pool of fighters that don't have to

1061
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: do that and you can just fight each other. And

1062
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: we're like, so you're just gonna do the matchmaker model. Now,

1063
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: PFL has never adhered to that same kind of sensibility,

1064
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: but it was weird that they're announcing the exact same

1065
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 1: thing and for really the exact same reasons. The tournaments

1066
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: are tough, and they're valuable, and they're awesome, but you

1067
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: have certain people that either don't want to go in

1068
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,959
Speaker 1: him again, or don't need to go in him again,

1069
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,760
Speaker 1: or you know, pick pick your choice there, Kayla Harrison,

1070
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 1: I guess you know at this point doesn't really have

1071
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:51,879
Speaker 1: a choice. If they can't get her a super fight,

1072
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,919
Speaker 1: who the fuck else are they gonna fight? So they

1073
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: have to do it, But I just don't know how

1074
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,800
Speaker 1: feasible it is. Here we see Aaron bronstaters tweet the

1075
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 1: PFL are launching a new pay per view Superfi division,

1076
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: said the CEO Peter Murray quote, where star MMA fighters

1077
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: will compete on a global stage against the best fighters

1078
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: in the sport, which is very generic he's not saying

1079
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: a whole lot, dude. This is almost not quite different,

1080
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: but it's very similar to the very thing that got

1081
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: Bjorn Rebney fired from Bellatore because it undercuts what they're

1082
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: all about. I think PFL can be more nimble, and

1083
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 1: I think they can live in two worlds. But it

1084
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 1: tells you that their existing structure literally isn't enough for

1085
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: them to retain top talent. They have to change things,

1086
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 1: maybe for the better, but they definitely have to change well.

1087
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 2: To be fair, bron said a tweeting that Ali Abdelazi's

1088
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 2: told them that this deal makes Kayla the highest paid

1089
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 2: female in women's MME history. Now we don't have proof

1090
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 2: of that, Luke, you know women in MME history. Excuse me,

1091
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 2: but but you know, we're going to assume that they

1092
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,280
Speaker 2: had to kick in. I mean, you know, because Beltour

1093
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 2: probably gave him a great offer, PFL had to really

1094
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 2: kick it in. So I know Kayla is getting taken

1095
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 2: care of financially. But look, the same question I spun

1096
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 2: at you when you when you were talking about Bejorna,

1097
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 2: I didn't get an answer from you. Do you think

1098
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 2: this pay per view division is set up with the

1099
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 2: hope that other promotions will either send over their talent

1100
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 2: and exchange for something, or this could be some type

1101
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 2: of double promotion co promotion pay per view, or do

1102
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 2: you believe that this is set up as a just

1103
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 2: a foundation for luring Chris Heyborg when her deal is

1104
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 2: up with Belator, Because as you know, and that's why

1105
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 2: I sort of started that whole rant of saying, you know,

1106
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 2: for Kayla, this is probably the best decision in the end,

1107
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:37,720
Speaker 2: but as a fan, unless she's fighting Cyborg soon, this this,

1108
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 2: this is okay, we're still waiting for her to finally,

1109
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 2: you know, match herself against the very best.

1110
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: Let me so you just spin this around a little bit.

1111
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 2: I thought a couple of you answer my question.

1112
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: Well I will, I will, but I want to I

1113
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: want to answer it in this way. This is the

1114
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 1: thing I keep coming back to. I'm with you. It's like,

1115
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: who's she going to fight if they can't? You know,

1116
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: you make out you're making vague promises to get Kayla

1117
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 1: fight on pay per view with a super fight division,

1118
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: not just her other ones. You know, see who gets

1119
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: put on that designation. But here's the thing. It goes

1120
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 1: back to me about the UFC thing. It's like, listen,

1121
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: if Belter made her an offer and PFL had matching

1122
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: rights and they matched it, they met every letter of it.

1123
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: And that's good for Kayla because that means she got

1124
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 1: She got PFL to pay more than they ordinarily would

1125
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: have by virtue of a belt offer Like this is,

1126
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: you know, categorically a good thing. Fighter pay matters, because

1127
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: that's the game. It's prize fighting. Someone fights, someone gets

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00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: money for it. That's it. That's what this is about.

1129
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 1: So if you can get a huge amount of it

1130
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: or a relatively easy schedule, in many ways, you've already won.

1131
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 1: But for you know, customer satisfaction and also for her

1132
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,439
Speaker 1: own sake, we're not getting here. But I answer it

1133
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: this way. On the UFC side, I was thinking about

1134
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: this now. Obviously the situations are in many ways very

1135
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 1: very different. I'm not making a total comparison. It is

1136
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 1: hard for me to believe that as difficult as it

1137
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: is to find fights for Kayla Harrison, even at one

1138
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: forty five, that that's actually any hard than it act

1139
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: was for them to match make CM punk and he

1140
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: got a couple cracks at it. Now, grant he has

1141
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: a much higher threshold for pay per view returns, although

1142
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 1: that didn't work out either. But I get from a

1143
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: strategy standpoint, you could at least pencil that in. But dude,

1144
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 1: we're talking about the greatest judoka in American history. No

1145
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 1: man has a gold medal, y'all. She's got two of them.

1146
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,800
Speaker 1: It's not even close. This is a next generation level athlete.

1147
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: She can't get a crack in the UFC during the

1148
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 1: middle of her prime because they wanted to cheap out.

1149
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 1: And I understand the mechanics of a BBC. They don't

1150
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 1: have to pay for it. I grant, they don't have

1151
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: to do anything that they don't want to do. I

1152
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: just think it says a lot about the business that

1153
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: people are talking about how hard it is for her

1154
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 1: to make fights. Dudes, they could make fights for her

1155
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: if they really wanted to. They may not be the

1156
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: best fights, but what is she going to get at

1157
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: PFL that is dramatically better unless Cyborg either comes over

1158
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: or they make some kind of co promotion. The UFC

1159
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 1: angle here is a little bit unexplored.

1160
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 2: Well no, I mean, look, you get the most out

1161
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 2: of her, you'd have to bring her in Kayla to

1162
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 2: the UFC, and you have to adopt my idea of

1163
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 2: women's heavyweight and open up the weight class a little bit,

1164
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 2: and then you have any number of huge fights to make.

1165
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 2: Even if they didn't do that and they said, look,

1166
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 2: you've got to cut to one forty five twice a

1167
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 2: year for us, you still could make some pretty big fights.

1168
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 2: And we're gonna find out right away if that happened,

1169
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 2: how great Kyla is and maybe cyborgans a becoming a

1170
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 2: free agent going back to the UFC, although there's hurdles there.

1171
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:28,879
Speaker 2: We don't know that. But my question to you never

1172
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 2: got answered, Luke, so because we don't have answers. That

1173
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 2: was a cryptic pay per view announcement. But within that

1174
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 2: cryptic announcement, is it more likely in your eyes that

1175
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 2: pfl's plan and hope is that Cyborg becomes a free

1176
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 2: agent very shortly in signs with them, or that PFL

1177
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 2: can lure Belator into some type of super fight card

1178
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:54,720
Speaker 2: co promotion thing in which fighters from both promotions fight

1179
00:55:54,920 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 2: against each other. Is that a possibility or do you

1180
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 2: think this is more about, well, let's entrench Kayla where

1181
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 2: she is now and hope that anyone non UFC will

1182
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 2: come this way and will make pay per view fights.

1183
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:11,800
Speaker 1: So what I would say is, I find the idea

1184
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 1: of Kayla leaving Scott Coker to join PFL, sorry, the

1185
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 1: idea of yes, the idea of Cyborg leaving Scott Coker

1186
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: to go fight Kayla in PFL, I find that certainly possible.

1187
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 1: It is possible. I find it very unlikely. She's been

1188
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 1: working with Scott Coker for almost the entirety of her career,

1189
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: certainly in major parts of the beginning and major parts now,

1190
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: with obviously a little bit of UFC in between. But

1191
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: they have a very very good relationship, and Scott Coker

1192
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 1: understands Cyborg. They have they they just work really well

1193
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: together from what I can tell. Also, it should be noted, well,

1194
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 1: I'll say this so to me, like, yeah, the idea

1195
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 1: of her going over there, I just yes, it could happen.

1196
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: It seems unlikely. You asked about co promotion. Folks seem

1197
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 1: to think this is some silly idea. It's really not

1198
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 1: the UFC gran and they co promoted with Mayweather for

1199
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: Connor Mayweather. But okay, we all agree that's a really weird,

1200
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: very one off. Expecting the UFC to co promote seems

1201
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: like maybe a bridge too far, but the SUBUFC level,

1202
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: your beltor your one, your PFLs. There are a lot

1203
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: of opportunities these guys aren't exploring and if folks are asking, well,

1204
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: who would want to do it? Strikeforce under Scott Coker

1205
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 1: partnered with M One, partnered with Rizin, partnered with Elite

1206
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 1: XC even briefly to put on one of their fights,

1207
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: partnered with Dream That. Scott Coker has a long history

1208
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: of partnering, yes, more predominantly with Japanese promotions, but working

1209
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: with other promoters who have some elite talents to make

1210
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: some things work. It's time to put your put that

1211
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 1: history of good work to use. Now. Everyone thinks that

1212
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: if a promotion co promotes with another promoter, there it's

1213
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 1: a zero sum game. There has to be a loser,

1214
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: and it is true BC that if you look on

1215
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 1: some of the old one cards, even from twenty nineteen,

1216
00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: they had shootover versus Pancraze fights on the cards like

1217
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 1: that and SHOOTO on pancres have been decades old rivals.

1218
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: So you can you can put fights like that, but

1219
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: you don't have to You don't have to put anyone's

1220
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: belt on the line. You can put a super Cup

1221
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 1: whatever the fuck you want to call it, trophy on

1222
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 1: the line. You could have one fight, right your main

1223
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: event is belt or versus whoever Cyborg versus Kayla, and

1224
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: then other fights on there don't have to be that way,

1225
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 1: or you can have other contracts where you know it's

1226
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: one side is if someone loses, they get a rematch

1227
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: on the other side, or there are there are arrangements. Though.

1228
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: What I'm trying to point out here is there are

1229
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: numerous arrangements that could be made to make this work.

1230
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: It is up to the promoters to do things that

1231
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,919
Speaker 1: they haven't done in a while and start shaking hands

1232
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:41,479
Speaker 1: across the aisle, because you can make really really good

1233
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 1: mma if you combine the sub UFC elements together, I.

1234
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 2: Mean, as a fan dream it would be it would

1235
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 2: be incredible. And now here's the quote one more from

1236
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 2: Ali to Aaron bronstad Or. I am one hundred percent

1237
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 2: sure that a fight with Cyborg will happen, either at

1238
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 2: the end of this year or early next year. The

1239
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 2: only one who can prevent it is Cyborg. End quote.

1240
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 2: I think best scenario for fans is some kind of

1241
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 2: hole either. I mean, look, best scenario for fans, is

1242
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 2: that dream scenario we just talked about of we'll take

1243
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 2: the four biggest belt or stars, you take the four

1244
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 2: biggest PFL stars. We'll do some supercard and hopefully UFC

1245
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 2: and ESPN won't get in the way of it, and

1246
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 2: we'll do it on pay per view. If not a

1247
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 2: home and home series. Do fight deal Cyborg versus Kayla Harrison. Right,

1248
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 2: one on ESPN pay per view, one on Forrick CBS

1249
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:29,919
Speaker 2: for all I know, right showtime, pay per view, whatever

1250
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 2: you want, you.

1251
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: Could do, by the way, hold on, you could. You

1252
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 1: could change weight classes. You could have one in the

1253
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: PFL cage, one in the rounded beltort cages, a lot

1254
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 1: of ways.

1255
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 2: Absolutely. But the point is, as fans, for this deal

1256
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 2: to really make us happy and excited and make the

1257
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 2: most sense for Kayla's character arc, those ali quotes have

1258
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 2: to be true. Kayla Harrison needs to fight Chris Cyborg

1259
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 2: within the next twelve months to really because Luke, that's

1260
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 2: the last big hurdle. If she gets by that, and

1261
00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 2: gets by it, you know, demonstratively destructively. If Kayla Harrison

1262
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 2: finishes Cyborg right like, maybe maybe not as quick in

1263
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 2: dying and as Amanda Newness is dominant. I mean, that

1264
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 2: was just mind blowing. But if she does that, there's

1265
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 2: the last deal that she's not gonna be in the UFC, Luke,

1266
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 2: because she's gonna have that heir to her like she

1267
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 2: might be the one. She might be the New Hope

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Speaker 2: episode four. She might be the one from tattooin in

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01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 2: the greatest female this board has ever seen, Luke. And

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01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 2: you know, maybe the way this was set up with

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01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 2: PFL always having matching rights, unless UFC was just gonna

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01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 2: offer something that PFL could never afford, then this was

1273
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 2: always gonna end this way. Maybe that's the case. But

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01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 2: next deal, she's the female brock Lesner for the UFC.

1275
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 2: If she's as good as she thinks she is, and

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01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 2: that we think she might have the chance of becoming Luke.

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Speaker 2: And that's why I love that idea of women's heavyweight

1278
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 2: so much, because you're opening the pool for every fight

1279
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 2: to be a mussy fight, because they're all gonna be

1280
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 2: names one after another. Against the mighty Kayla Harrison, it's

1281
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 2: gonna feel like Rousey a little bit. It's gonna feel

1282
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:00,479
Speaker 2: like Lesnar a little bit. Luke. There's some big money

1283
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 2: to be made for everybody, but it won't happen for

1284
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 2: a couple of years. We don't know the specifics of

1285
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 2: this Caleb pfl deal, but you gotta I mean, it's

1286
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 2: at least one year, right, Luke.

1287
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Speaker 1: At least they called it multi year. They called it

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Speaker 1: multi year.

1289
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 2: Okay, So do you think it's let's say two years.

1290
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Speaker 2: I don't know the options. Well, let's say two years.

1291
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Speaker 2: Let's say in that two years she beats Cyborg and

1292
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 2: Julia Budden whoever else. It's time, Luke, thirty three, it's time.

1293
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Speaker 1: I agree. I agree. I hope the promoters out there

1294
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 1: really understand what they're what they're not doing, and they're

1295
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 1: just leaving fans high and dry. But there's just a

1296
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 1: lot of creative possibilities that no one seems to be

1297
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 1: willing to make, and I would like to see somebody, somebody,

1298
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 1: somebody try something a little bit different, Luke.

1299
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 2: Is it possible that UFC knew about this clause of

1300
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 2: the matching and that was sort of part of why

1301
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 2: they didn't take it? Monster? Seriously, I still feel like

1302
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 2: them giving her that ticket in the front row for

1303
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 2: Nuna's pana shows how serious they were.

1304
01:01:56,680 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 1: They Here's the thing after Amanda loses. Maybe their like

1305
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 1: their own internal dialogue was like, oh right, well I

1306
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 1: don't want to pay. I mean that was what we

1307
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: wanted Now we can't, So why am I gonna pay?

1308
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 1: Like there's could be there could be a lot of

1309
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 1: reasons why I went the way that it did to

1310
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 1: your point, but I guess we'll have to see. I

1311
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 1: guess we'll have to see. I'll say this, if PFL

1312
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 1: and Eagle or PFL and Bellator can make a deal,

1313
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 1: I'm I'm willing to pay for it, just to encourage

1314
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 1: promoters to start trying things because the siloing off of worlds.

1315
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: It's fine, but it could be so much better.

1316
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, I mean PFL have to offer for us,

1317
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 2: Kevin Lee and Ray Borg, I'll take it.

1318
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 1: You mean you mean Ego, All right, let's talk about

1319
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 1: Islam Makachev PC. So he did an interview with our

1320
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 1: colleague brett O Komodo a few different pieces with it.

1321
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 2: He's not our colleague, Luke, but he's our friend, Okay, So.

1322
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 1: Just say that, right, and and and at the UH

1323
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 1: and at and at the MMA Awards, he was our

1324
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: friend who had had a lot to drink.

1325
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 2: He was drunk as a skunk Luke.

1326
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Speaker 1: I was like. I was like. I was like, Brett,

1327
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 1: is your cologne vodka? Like? What are we doing here?

1328
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 1: Guy from here? All right, I'm teasing. Let's talk about

1329
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 1: a few different things. He mentioned in the interview. I

1330
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 1: watched it before the show. He gets right to it.

1331
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 1: Brett does about what happened with RDA, because he did

1332
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 1: tweet out that he wanted it. They went back and forth,

1333
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 1: and then Dana says, I went to sleep, then I

1334
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 1: wake up the next day in the fight fell through,

1335
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 1: you know, blah blah blah. He said Islam didn't want it.

1336
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 1: Islam tells Brett, well, I did want it. I explicitly

1337
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 1: went out of No one called me, he said, I

1338
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 1: called Ali. I called told Ali, you call UFC right now.

1339
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: I want it. And he said he had made a

1340
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:33,439
Speaker 1: little condition that UFC didn't want to meet. RDA said

1341
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 1: it was because he wanted a million dollars. Islam says,

1342
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 1: it's not true. You see. My hunch is what Islam

1343
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 1: wanted was some money for short notice turn around. He

1344
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 1: told Brett Okamoto he had canceled his vacation. He was

1345
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 1: actually in the middle of vacation. He canceled everything to

1346
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 1: go to Vegas and make this fight happen. He probably

1347
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 1: wanted to be financially compensated for it, and UFC was like, yeah, no,

1348
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 1: we don't do that here. So it just said, oh

1349
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 1: he turned it down. Fair unfair.

1350
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 2: Uh, somebody's lying here, Luke. Somebody lying, and you know,

1351
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 2: I think we know knee jerk who we think is lying.

1352
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 2: So first of all, I was hoping that that million

1353
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 2: dollars was true. I even tweeted about it. Why because

1354
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 2: although it's aggressive, this is finally the UFC fighters, you know,

1355
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 2: digging the line back in the sand and saying this

1356
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 2: is what I'm worth. Are you gonna get it? Well no,

1357
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 2: not now, but at least you're doing that. I believe

1358
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 2: when I see Islam come out and be like, no,

1359
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 2: I never said a million dollars. So, Luke, he was

1360
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 2: very cryptic about whatever that thing was that he wanted,

1361
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 2: that very small thing. Some people have speculated that it

1362
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 2: was a guaranteed title shot, which I think a win

1363
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 2: there would have given him that anyway, and I think

1364
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 2: he deserves it right now. Although you know Dana's framing

1365
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 2: it as you turned it down, you lose this opportunity,

1366
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 2: which is it's just bullshit, Luke. But I think also,

1367
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 2: you know, when you're in the spot, in your in

1368
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:59,439
Speaker 2: your Islam Machev. I don't know, Luke, it just feels

1369
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 2: like there's four is against him making this giant leap

1370
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 2: of success to happen. It's just you know what I mean,

1371
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 2: Like it feels like there's.

1372
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:08,440
Speaker 1: Like extravert what do you mean curious?

1373
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 2: I mean, it just could it could just be a

1374
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 2: Connor thing, like we got Connor coming back. Let's let's

1375
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 2: see the lay of the land. First, we got Dana

1376
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 2: openly saying I don't know. You know, it depends on

1377
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 2: who's champion, if OLIVERA wants it. But this seems to

1378
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 2: me if we believe that Dana's lying, and again the

1379
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 2: truth could be in the middle. It usually is right.

1380
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 2: But but but we've also seen have we not seen

1381
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 2: Dana White in the UFC publicly lie about how things

1382
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 2: went down? We've seen it time and again, Luke. Okay,

1383
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 2: so you have to keep that in perspective. But yes,

1384
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 2: this looks to me like a calculated effort to keep Islam,

1385
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 2: you know, stiff armed in that bay, not just like

1386
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 2: let's keep him at base we don't have to pay him,

1387
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 2: but let's open the door for McGregor first to come back.

1388
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 2: That's just what it feels like, Luke. I love the

1389
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 2: fact that that he's coming back this hard though. I'm saying,

1390
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 2: you know, no, I never turned it down. And you

1391
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 2: know why, why, Dana, why look at it looks really bad?

1392
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 2: I mean this, it's it's fighter versus promoter all over again.

1393
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 2: It just it seems it feels very transparent here. Do

1394
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 2: you believe Islam as much as I do? Listen, It's

1395
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 2: entirely possible. Here's my only point. It is entirely possible

1396
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 2: that both sides making unreasonable demands or expectations. Islam came

1397
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 2: in with some demand that he knew, you know, UFC

1398
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 2: had a very little chance of happening.

1399
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 1: He didn't frame it that way. He thought it was

1400
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 1: very easy for them to do. But I'm just saying,

1401
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 1: could be that, and UFC could be like, yeah, we

1402
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 1: don't you know, we don't pay fighters to do shit

1403
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 1: like this, so no so or or you know, we're

1404
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 1: gonna wait on McGregor or whatever the situation may be. Okay,

1405
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 1: I I I I'm not unsympathetic to that reality. But

1406
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 1: the only thing I want the folks at home to

1407
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 1: understand is you gotta understand something. I'm not making this up.

1408
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:54,919
Speaker 1: When Tito got replaced by Rich Franklin, Ultimate Fighter, Dana

1409
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 1: White openly lied on the record, and then when he

1410
01:06:58,120 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 1: was called on it was like, yeah, who cares, don't

1411
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 1: you can hold me to it or don't, Like I

1412
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 1: don't care about a line on the record. So I'm

1413
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 1: not saying he's lying here. But what I am saying

1414
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 1: is when he comes out and says X fighter turned

1415
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 1: why fight down? That's not the Ten Commandments. That's not

1416
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 1: written in stone. There could be a whole lot of

1417
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 1: differences between they turned it down and what the actual

1418
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 1: reality is. Maybe Islam was unreasonable, maybe he wasn't. I'm

1419
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 1: just saying Dana saying the Fighter turned it down. I

1420
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 1: would very much take that with a grain of salt.

1421
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. And the other point I was going to

1422
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 2: say was that, you know, there's some speculation of is

1423
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 2: that small thing that Islam wanted to get his title

1424
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 2: shot in Abu Dhabi later this year, which is a

1425
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 2: part of it. But look a lot of people tweeting

1426
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 2: from the beginning when we talked about the beginning of

1427
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 2: this last episode and saying, hey, guys, just so you know,

1428
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 2: there's about a ninety nine percent chance that wasn't Islam

1429
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 2: Mahachev that tweeted out that he wants to fight Ourda

1430
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 2: and that it was definitely Ali Abdelazi's your thoughts.

1431
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 1: On that, Luke, It's certainly possible. I know that he

1432
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 1: has uh for a lot of these I mean, not

1433
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 1: all of them. I'm not sure how much does it anymore,

1434
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 1: but certainly we all know that he has used his

1435
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 1: fighters social media accounts to promote fights or various interests

1436
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 1: or whatever. Here's the thing, though, like, if Islam really

1437
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,439
Speaker 1: didn't want it, I don't think he would go through

1438
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 1: with this interview. Now, again, it could have been Ali tweeting,

1439
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 1: who knows, But I do think Islam wanted it. I

1440
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 1: do think he did make the request, whether it was

1441
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:22,759
Speaker 1: a special consideration for a title shot or more money,

1442
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 1: and then UFC was like, yeah, no, not We're just

1443
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 1: we'll just take somebody else. Plus, if you have Hanata

1444
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 1: Wai Kana, who's gonna come and who costs less than

1445
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 1: Islam Makachev anyway, he's going to do a five round

1446
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 1: fight anyway? Why on Earth would you pay RDA. It's

1447
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 1: like it's like in the Marine Corps do they always

1448
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 1: they always would hire contractors to build shit. They would

1449
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 1: always give it to the lowest bidder, like who will

1450
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 1: give you the cheapest?

1451
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 2: Out of his way to shit on him, Dana could

1452
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:46,800
Speaker 2: have been like, yeah, we talked to Islam but it

1453
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 2: didn't work out. Instead, Dana goes on of his way

1454
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 2: to be like, no, he doesn't want to fight, you

1455
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:52,639
Speaker 2: know what I mean. So it's like, right, you see

1456
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 2: right through that. But you know, Islam did give some

1457
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:57,799
Speaker 2: interesting quotes on other things. Did you see his comments

1458
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 2: on the main event He said of UFC He said,

1459
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take this belt, defend it like three times

1460
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:05,799
Speaker 2: five times, and I'm gonna come to the welterweight division.

1461
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 2: I saw this fight. I witnessed front row when Masvidal

1462
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 2: versus Cobe Colby. Honestly, I really believe I can beat

1463
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 2: these guys one night, both of these guys. And obviously

1464
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:19,320
Speaker 2: that's broken English and I'm struggling to even read it,

1465
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 2: but I love I love it. I love the confidence,

1466
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 2: I love the balls. Luke, what do you think, dude?

1467
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 2: You gotta run through lightweight first, you got to you

1468
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 2: gotta hammer out these hammers first. But do you see

1469
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 2: him as a potential two division threat here?

1470
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 1: I have it up to this point. But I really

1471
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 1: loved his answer because he was like, well what did

1472
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 1: you say? Because Brett was like, well, what did you see?

1473
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 1: He goes because Colby, he have just wrestling. I can

1474
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 1: beat him easy. His striking is very slow. And the

1475
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 1: other guy, Masvidal, I think he's so old now. He

1476
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 1: just makes the money. He maybe have a couple more

1477
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:55,719
Speaker 1: fights than he gonna retire. You have to see Islam's

1478
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 1: face when he says this. He says this with the

1479
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 1: breeziness of someone asking him what the time is like.

1480
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 1: In no way was he exaggerated. It doesn't mean he's right,

1481
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 1: but I'm saying his internal interpretation of that challenge is

1482
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 1: exactly that way. Not to your point, BC, It's like

1483
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 1: pump the brakes home. You we didn't see against ARTI Gay,

1484
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 1: we got to see you against Daryush and I almost

1485
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 1: see what happens after that. And even Daryush, by the way,

1486
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 1: is a hammer himself. He has no easy feat so

1487
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:23,720
Speaker 1: easy gotta beat. So the point I'm trying to make

1488
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 1: here is I love the idea. I am excited about

1489
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 1: the possibility of one seventy for the future, but there's

1490
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:34,599
Speaker 1: so many things in front of him.

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01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 2: All right, answer this this important question, because I didn't.

1492
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 2: I didn't go out of my way to try to

1493
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 2: become Team Islam, right. I mean, I love his game,

1494
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 2: I love his potential, I love his attitude. But you

1495
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 2: know there's other guys here, like, oh, that's a BC fighter.

1496
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:51,799
Speaker 2: He loves that guy. It affects his you know, he's

1497
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 2: that's his version of Luke's Anthony Smith. I get that.

1498
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 2: But with this said Luke, why does Islam not deserve it?

1499
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 2: Right now? I know that a lot of people say, well,

1500
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 2: you see here is not enough top ten wins. He's

1501
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:05,719
Speaker 2: got ten wins in a row. And I know, okay,

1502
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 2: it's not like I'm building the foundation of my argument

1503
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:11,640
Speaker 2: on that Bobby greenwin. It was what it was, and

1504
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 2: yet he took care of it and hammered it. But

1505
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 2: you know, last time I checked, Luke, a victory over

1506
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 2: your friend from CKB that still matters, right, that win

1507
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 2: still matters, and there's been ten of them in the row.

1508
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:27,680
Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, he's coached by Habib, So

1509
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 2: what the hell's the problem? Why is Dana coming on

1510
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 2: there and throwing him under the bus. Why does he

1511
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 2: have to Claire another hurdle? Tell me nufound Islam super fan.

1512
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 2: What I'm missing here, Luke?

1513
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 1: Nothing? Nothing? I mean, if you talk to the people

1514
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 1: on Twitter, who you know where a compliment is an

1515
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 1: insult and an insult is a compliment. I don't know

1516
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 1: what they might say, but I think some of the

1517
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 1: things I've seen are, well, you know, why rattle the

1518
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:53,600
Speaker 1: cage about the RDA fight if you just intended to

1519
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 1: back out And it's like, I don't know that he

1520
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:59,679
Speaker 1: did that. That you're taking White's framing of the situation

1521
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:02,639
Speaker 1: as a guaranteed assumption. So there is that. I mean,

1522
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 1: you could argue if you really wanted to listen. In

1523
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 1: the world of Connor McGregor, nothing means anything, right, like

1524
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 1: all these things like, well, fighters need to make sure

1525
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 1: they have more wins. What about Connor? Well, he don't

1526
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 1: need shit because he's popular in that world, Like what

1527
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:18,160
Speaker 1: does Islam need to like, oh, he has to match

1528
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:19,680
Speaker 1: that way in a world where they can do what

1529
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 1: the matchmakers can do whatever they want if they want

1530
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:26,680
Speaker 1: to give Connor the title shot. They can if they

1531
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 1: wanted to sign some guy off the street and give

1532
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 1: him a title shot short of the Commission intervening, they can't.

1533
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:35,759
Speaker 1: So this idea like, well, he doesn't have enough elite wins. Okay,

1534
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 1: I've seen guys with title shots who got more wins.

1535
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 1: But that's a little bit bullshit.

1536
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 2: It's like when Matt Damon's character and Rounders had the

1537
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:46,719
Speaker 2: balls to tell Teddy KGB not to splash the pot

1538
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 2: and splash the chips, and he goes, in my fucking club,

1539
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 2: I will smash the pot whenever the fuck I want to,

1540
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 2: all night long. Ch chick, chick, you know what I'm saying. Look,

1541
01:12:57,439 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 2: Ally gates their blood.

1542
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 1: Pay that man. He is money.

1543
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah wow all right, b C. Lastly, of

1544
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:07,719
Speaker 2: our lifetime, it's a top five movie of our movie

1545
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 2: watching lifetime. Say it, just say it out loud and agree.

1546
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 1: It's not even close to top five. I love it,

1547
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 1: but it's not top five.

1548
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 2: You you Carl Sagan reading motherfucker luke.

1549
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 1: Okay, BC's like, Yo, White Chicks, that's my number one movie, bro, BC,

1550
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 1: real quicker.

1551
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:27,640
Speaker 2: Right now, dude, I'm in Deadwood.

1552
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 1: This is crazy and you've got deadwood. I've been on

1553
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:33,679
Speaker 1: top of it all right. Topic number four, Bellatore seven,

1554
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 1: two seventy nine. Real quickly, this was announced. This was

1555
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 1: announced for April twenty third. We'll go through this very quickly. BC.

1556
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:41,679
Speaker 1: This is a hell of a card. It's the kickoff

1557
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 1: of the.

1558
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:44,759
Speaker 2: Dance White and Luke. What is going on right now?

1559
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. With the beltour bansaway Grand Prix, you

1560
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 1: have two of those fights on this card, plus Laminella

1561
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 1: mcfarnald taken on Justine Kish, plus the rematch. I mean,

1562
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 1: we don't need to see Cyborg Blenco right away because

1563
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:57,559
Speaker 1: Cyborg ran through with the first time. But it's not

1564
01:13:57,600 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 1: a bob here.

1565
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 2: You don't know. We will not be merch Arlene Blenco

1566
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 2: in this house.

1567
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 1: I'm not just watching her. I'm just saying, did we

1568
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 1: need this fight right away?

1569
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 2: One of my favorite fighters. Look, I'm sorry, you're gonna

1570
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 2: have to deal with it.

1571
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 1: Okay, here's the thing. Here's the thing. Sergio Pettis is

1572
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 1: gonna be in this Bantamwait, turney, he of course is

1573
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 1: the existing weight class champion. He's taking on teammates Ralphie

1574
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:21,680
Speaker 1: on Statts in the Grand Prix. So as we know,

1575
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 1: the title moves through whoever has it as it goes along.

1576
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:27,240
Speaker 1: Those are gonna be five round fights. B see their teammates.

1577
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:29,679
Speaker 1: This is a and by the way, Patchy Mix versus

1578
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 1: Kyogi Horagucci, let's stop right there.

1579
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 2: This card rules. This is big news for Belatour. It's

1580
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:38,680
Speaker 2: not only going back to Hawaii where they found a

1581
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 2: you know, rabid fan base as we already knew just

1582
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 2: waiting for them. Aleem Mally McFarlane came out that night

1583
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 2: like she was, you know, homecoming super Bowl champion. I mean,

1584
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:50,560
Speaker 2: it was just like love and energy. Belatore's gonna be

1585
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:52,720
Speaker 2: there two nights. But this Saturday night day night card

1586
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 2: April twenty third, it bangs Luke Yes main event alone.

1587
01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:58,800
Speaker 2: This is how we're gonna kick off this Grand Prix.

1588
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:02,599
Speaker 2: The champion against his teammates, somebody as red hot as

1589
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:07,480
Speaker 2: Raffie on statts. Look, this fight alone makes this card fantastic.

1590
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 2: But you get a Comaine of Cyborg Blenco too. And

1591
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 2: then okay, didn't Cyberg you know, defeat her handily when

1592
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:17,000
Speaker 2: they fought when October twenty twenty. Yeah, but you know

1593
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 2: Blunco did what top contenders do they go back to

1594
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 2: the well, look they get too impressive victories and here

1595
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 2: we are again, and you're just gonna add in to

1596
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 2: kick off the card PATCHI mixed Kyogi or a Gucci

1597
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:31,639
Speaker 2: in this tournament with Aleem Malay McFarlane coming home against

1598
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 2: Justine Kitsch. I mean, like, look, this rules. This is

1599
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 2: a great move by Scott Koker, even if you think

1600
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:42,679
Speaker 2: the other stuff is just you know, Garland and dressing.

1601
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 2: These two bantamweight bouts alone, good lord, it is among

1602
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 2: the best fights you can make at this weight division

1603
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:51,760
Speaker 2: in the world. So this is what gets you fired up.

1604
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 1: And also it just it should be noted for folks

1605
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 1: who are new to MMA. This may not make a

1606
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 1: lot of sense, but in the early in the late

1607
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 1: nineties and especially in the early two thousands, Hawaii was

1608
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 1: a and it still remains as in terms of a

1609
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 1: place where talent comes from, but in terms of a

1610
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:08,680
Speaker 1: place where also major shows were held like Rumble on

1611
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 1: the Rock and whatnot. Hawaii was a hotbed and Blaisdell

1612
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 1: Arena was one of the premier points of MMA. When

1613
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 1: Robie Lawler left UFC for the first time, he went

1614
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 1: to a few places now, at least of which was

1615
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 1: Icon Sport, which used to be known as super Brawl

1616
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 1: back in the day, and a lot of UFC fighters

1617
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 1: fought in super Brawl before they even came to UFC.

1618
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 1: What I'm trying to say is there was a lot

1619
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 1: of questions for many years about when UFC is going

1620
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:31,960
Speaker 1: back to or back to Hawaii, and they wanted a

1621
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:34,640
Speaker 1: bunch of money from the Tourism Board and Hawaii. The

1622
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 1: Tourism Board told him to go pound Sand and Belltor

1623
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 1: was like, we'll take it up. So it's been real

1624
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 1: smart of Scott Coker and Belltore to find a place

1625
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 1: that kind of been neglected a little bit by some

1626
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 1: of the more elite MMA organizations. It has a deep,

1627
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 1: rich tradition. You can put shows back there. They're going

1628
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 1: to air on showtime. Dude, this is a big win

1629
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 1: for a lot of different people.

1630
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know the bracket. Do we know?

1631
01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 2: The bracket is the winner of pest?

1632
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 1: So I texted He texted Danny Brenner from Belatore today.

1633
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 1: I was like, have you guys put out the bracket?

1634
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 1: I just didn't see it. No, they haven't put it

1635
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:08,680
Speaker 1: out yet. There are a couple of reasons why. He

1636
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 1: explained to me, I can't quite get into it, but

1637
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 1: they are going to release it soon, is what he said.

1638
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 2: Okay, because we don't you know, could this night April

1639
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 2: twenty third, Saturday night be a setup where Pettis and

1640
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 2: Horragucci are setting up to go again if they both

1641
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 2: win and neither victory. By the way, is is some

1642
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 2: automatic consequence with that said? Luke, this is a deep

1643
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 2: Grand Prix. The names are big. Do you still stand

1644
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:33,680
Speaker 2: where we stood when this fight card was announced that

1645
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:37,639
Speaker 2: even though Kyogi Horrigucci lost to the champion, Sergio Pettis,

1646
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:40,720
Speaker 2: by you know, as I guess, I don't know if

1647
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:43,840
Speaker 2: the word is miraculous, but that's not too far off.

1648
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 2: Miraculous knockout from Sergio Pettis. Is the gooch still the favorite,

1649
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:52,559
Speaker 2: But forget the betting guys. In your heart, is the

1650
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 2: gouch the tournament favorite as we.

1651
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:58,519
Speaker 1: Kick this off. Yes, you can't take away what Sergio

1652
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 1: Pettis did. He stayed, aid, committed to the fight and

1653
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 1: found an opening, simple as that, right, But as we

1654
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 1: all saw what happened for the eighteen minutes and however

1655
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 1: many seconds it was before he threw that that was

1656
01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:14,640
Speaker 1: a one sided ass whipping. So I don't want to

1657
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 1: discount anything Sergio did. He won that fight fair and square.

1658
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 1: That's what MMA is all about. You let your guard

1659
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 1: down for an instant and you will pay for it.

1660
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 1: But I do think that the guy who has shown

1661
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 1: the most ability to this point has probably killed you, Horgucci,

1662
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 1: don't you agree?

1663
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:32,400
Speaker 2: Yeah? And just to recap for anyone that forgets, here's

1664
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:36,600
Speaker 2: the pool in this militar eight man tournament. Sergio Pettis, Horgucci,

1665
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 2: Magomd Mango Medoff, who, despite that close loss to raffaon statts,

1666
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 2: is game, James gallaher Leandro Higo Pachi mixed Ruffian Statts

1667
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 2: in one Archieletta of the former champion, you know, somewhat

1668
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 2: forgotten in this mix. So you know, I definitely want

1669
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 2: to see. I'm most interested in seeing James Gallagher's path

1670
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 2: because he's really gonna have to prove to us Luke

1671
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 2: exactly what he's made of if he's gonna keep advancing

1672
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:01,320
Speaker 2: and get through this bracket, which to me is the favorite.

1673
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:04,439
Speaker 2: But dude, I'm watching malgamed, Maga, Medov close Luke, not

1674
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 2: just because it's it's it's smash season right now. But

1675
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:10,799
Speaker 2: you know, even in that loss, Dude, he's got a motor.

1676
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 2: This guy, this guy's a it's gonna be a problem here.

1677
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 2: He's got to He's got Cory Anderson Vibes entering the

1678
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 2: light Heavyweight Grand Prix in my opinion.

1679
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 1: Okay, last thing I'll say on this don't forget Ramadan.

1680
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:23,679
Speaker 1: I think is April second to May second. I think

1681
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 1: part of the reason why they have n't put the

1682
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 1: bracket out is I think maca Medov will be observing Ramadan,

1683
01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 1: which means fighting is going to be a bit of

1684
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 1: a difficult task. So I think they're waiting to figure

1685
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:34,680
Speaker 1: out what his schedule is before they can make the

1686
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 1: full brackets. But it should be out soon.

1687
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 2: For what I hear, Luke, are you team anger fist

1688
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 2: for a cyborg one coach too or what?

1689
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 1: Bro? I don't I don't have a I don't have

1690
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 1: a side. I mean, may the best personal win. I

1691
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 1: don't really care U b see it is time for

1692
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 1: over under my friend.

1693
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Luke, this segment pretty much explains itself. I got

1694
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 2: seven questions, I got a number for you. You tell

1695
01:19:58,280 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 2: me if the odds are more likely to be over

1696
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 2: or under total vapes per episode. I take the over.

1697
01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:04,679
Speaker 2: Thank you?

1698
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:08,599
Speaker 1: Can you can you get through this before seven hours expires?

1699
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 2: Let's say yes, yes, okay number one here, Luke. We

1700
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:14,559
Speaker 2: need a little jingle, We need a theme song, something, Luke.

1701
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:18,080
Speaker 2: Nate Diaz penned a IG post this week and aimed

1702
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 2: it at UFC and Dana White, saying, quote, I'm ready

1703
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 2: for my last fight. The guy says he's ready, also

1704
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 2: meaning poorier. So let's get this shit popping. I've got

1705
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:31,759
Speaker 2: shit to do, Luke over under seventy five percent chance

1706
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 2: that the only reason UFC hasn't booked Nate Dustin yet,

1707
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 2: despite both fighters wanting it and Dana White going on

1708
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 2: record about eighteen times saying he wants it, is because

1709
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 2: Dana is trying to wait out this Jake Paul bubble,

1710
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:49,920
Speaker 2: which might explain the Jorge Mosbital five fight deal that

1711
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 2: he just signed at age thirty seven as long as

1712
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 2: possible to prevent Nate and maybe even Jorge from moving

1713
01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 2: on over and cashing in on it.

1714
01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:01,280
Speaker 1: True, I'll take the over. I'll take the over. And

1715
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 1: if you're a promoter and you're a Dana and you

1716
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 1: not only does Dana not want to lose nadeas services

1717
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 1: to somebody else if you can all avoid it, but

1718
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 1: to Jake Paul. And here's the worst part, Like, you know,

1719
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 1: I don't know that I would bet on Jake Paul

1720
01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:18,600
Speaker 1: to beat n Ideas. Probably I wouldn't, But if that

1721
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:23,759
Speaker 1: fight gets delayed and you know, we're teetering on forty again,

1722
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:25,680
Speaker 1: he's a huge, big, not huge guy, but he's a

1723
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:27,679
Speaker 1: bigger guy than Nate. Like, I'm not saying I would

1724
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:29,160
Speaker 1: still pick Nate to win, but you know that would

1725
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 1: improve Jake's chances.

1726
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:33,679
Speaker 2: Dude, that numbers aggressive though seventy five. So you're saying,

1727
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:37,599
Speaker 2: without a shadow of the doubt that Neat versus Dustin

1728
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:40,360
Speaker 2: could have happened in January of this year for all

1729
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 2: we know.

1730
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 1: In fairness, hold on, there's also no doubt that I'm

1731
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:47,680
Speaker 1: sure Diaz is asking for things that you know, complicate

1732
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 1: the procedure, whether he's in tow to them or not.

1733
01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:49,960
Speaker 1: As different.

1734
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:52,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's like, yo, I want I want three

1735
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:54,599
Speaker 2: and a half million to take this fight, and they're like,

1736
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:56,920
Speaker 2: we don't really give that out in like a lump

1737
01:21:56,960 --> 01:21:58,840
Speaker 2: sum like that. You know, we don't really do that.

1738
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:00,720
Speaker 1: It's actually I can tell you story off air that's

1739
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 1: not too far from that. Actually. But the point I'm

1740
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 1: trying to make is there's a ton of friction between them,

1741
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 1: anatomicano friction list to get him to fly basically from

1742
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:10,559
Speaker 1: South to North America. It's a lot of friction to

1743
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 1: get Nate to do it. I'll take the over.

1744
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:15,599
Speaker 2: All, right, Luke. Forty four year old brock Lesnar spoke

1745
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 2: to The New York Post this week while promoting WrestleMania

1746
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 2: and was asked about his future in the UFC, saying, quote,

1747
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:23,640
Speaker 2: I'm too old. That's a young man's sport and that

1748
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:28,880
Speaker 2: door is closed. I'm brock Lesnar, the WWE superstar end quote, Luke,

1749
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 2: two and a half over under the amount of current

1750
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 2: top fifteen UFC heavyweights that Lesner could defeat right now

1751
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 2: in a three round fight if allowed to rot up

1752
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:45,240
Speaker 2: to whatever excessive amount he wants without penalty, similar to

1753
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 2: UFC two hundred, although there was a penalty at the

1754
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 2: end of that as well. Luke, Now this is three rounds.

1755
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:54,160
Speaker 2: How about this? You don't even have to cut to

1756
01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 2: two sixty five. Brock. Let that dude shoot up that

1757
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 2: horse tranquilizer right into his ball sack. Luke two and

1758
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:05,520
Speaker 2: a half over under top fifteen UFC heavyweights.

1759
01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:08,600
Speaker 1: I'll take the over. I'll take the over. Wow.

1760
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:11,280
Speaker 2: So you're like, so, like the perfect name for this

1761
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 2: is Augusto Sakai, Right, that's like the perfect middle of

1762
01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 2: the road measuring stick. So forty four year old.

1763
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 1: Well, here's what I would say. I think Walt Harris

1764
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 1: on the feet would obviously light brock Lesner on fire.

1765
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 1: The brocks still got you know, I mean, I was like, Okay,

1766
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:28,400
Speaker 1: UFC two hundred, broocks alled really good takedowns. Long time ago,

1767
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:29,720
Speaker 1: I grant, but he was.

1768
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 2: Thirty eight then, yeah, but yeah, I mean, dude, let's

1769
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:35,439
Speaker 2: be honest. When he took his shirt off on the scale,

1770
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:38,840
Speaker 2: no not the scales, that public workout he did, and

1771
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 2: he took his shirt off at UFC two hundred after,

1772
01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 2: you know, and I mean, dude, he was fucking gigantic,

1773
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:49,000
Speaker 2: Luke and just caught like I mean, Luke, he was

1774
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:52,320
Speaker 2: he was righted up to the gills, Luke. I mean

1775
01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:54,479
Speaker 2: there were needles just hanging from his nipples.

1776
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 1: Luke. Wasn't wasn't it beautiful? I love ye?

1777
01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was the peak of human performance.

1778
01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 2: That guy, even at forty four, That guy takes a

1779
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:04,760
Speaker 2: good stars to guy downtown.

1780
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:06,920
Speaker 1: Luke, I think he takes a lot of these guys down.

1781
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:09,639
Speaker 1: It's uncomfortable to say, but I think it's true. He dude,

1782
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 1: he even, like with barely any prep, he was taking

1783
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 1: down guys who had I mean, I remember when he

1784
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 1: fought Heath Harring. We're all like, did you see how

1785
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:18,559
Speaker 1: big Heath looked at the weigh ins? Heith Harring's gonna

1786
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:20,880
Speaker 1: give him some problems. He fucking ran over Heath Harring

1787
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 1: like it was.

1788
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 2: The thing is, though, Luke, if you hit him right

1789
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:26,760
Speaker 2: in the face with one big shot, you can't put

1790
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 2: him on tilt right.

1791
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 1: You can't get what was your question? Like? Who could

1792
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 1: he beat? Like, I mean, you know, we don't know.

1793
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:35,640
Speaker 1: We're all speculating. Those are how about this? Those are?

1794
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:38,840
Speaker 1: There's are there at least three winnable fights in the

1795
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 1: top ten or top fifteen for him? Yeah, there are

1796
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 1: three winnable fights.

1797
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 2: Absolutely, would he move the lawn with uh, Greg.

1798
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:50,600
Speaker 1: Hardy oh Man? Probably bro that, I mean, because you

1799
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 1: know he's a good athlete too. He takes I mean,

1800
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 1: we're talking like a roided up version. He could still

1801
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 1: move a little bit. I'm sure so.

1802
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 2: And just so you know, the opponents, they'd have to

1803
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 2: go undergo you saw, all right.

1804
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 1: Although Brock would have to get I mean, the chess

1805
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:04,800
Speaker 1: tattoo is everyone hates it more than I do. I

1806
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:06,720
Speaker 1: don't like it, but I don't I don't, you know,

1807
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 1: I don't care about it. The haircut, I mean, what

1808
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 1: are we doing with that thing? The hair?

1809
01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:12,800
Speaker 2: Well, now he's got the facial hair at least, so

1810
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 2: it's not that bad.

1811
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:16,760
Speaker 1: Who looks at that and goes nailed it? I mean,

1812
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, I don't look him in the

1813
01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 1: mirror and think I've nailed it either, to be clear,

1814
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 1: but I don't think. I mean, egregiously, you know, annoying

1815
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:26,000
Speaker 1: the world with my just my hair, although I probably

1816
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:27,120
Speaker 1: am doing that too.

1817
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 2: Tru or false. Thinking back at Lesnar's UFC run, it

1818
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:32,640
Speaker 2: kind of feels like a fever dream or something like.

1819
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 2: It feels like it was like a movie we watched

1820
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:34,599
Speaker 2: like it was.

1821
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:36,800
Speaker 1: It was a party. It was it was like a dude,

1822
01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:39,280
Speaker 1: you're it was like being at a party and like

1823
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 1: randomly a famous person came through the party. And kind

1824
01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:44,240
Speaker 1: of celebrated and was doing all the things with you.

1825
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 2: Bill Murray is there. Bill Murray's making out with chicks.

1826
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:50,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Bill Murray's singing and pretending he's still funning at

1827
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 1: age whatever he is. At this point, it was like that.

1828
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 1: It was like a party that a famous person showed

1829
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 1: up to. We had a great time, and when he

1830
01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 1: moved on, that was it.

1831
01:25:57,280 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 2: I mean, one of one, Luke, whether you love him

1832
01:25:59,200 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 2: or hate him, one of one.

1833
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:01,519
Speaker 1: All Right, we gotta move this along.

1834
01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm just entertaining my people, Luke. Okay. Number three.

1835
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 2: After recent comments from Terrence Crawford and trainer Brian Bowmack

1836
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:12,800
Speaker 2: McIntyre about the idea of moving up to one hundred

1837
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 2: and fifty four pounds if the big name Walter Waits

1838
01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:19,840
Speaker 2: continue to avoid him, oh no, unified junior middleweight champion

1839
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 2: Jermel Charlow took umbrage with those words, saying on the

1840
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 2: Last Stand with Brian Custer podcast quote Crawford, y'all ain't

1841
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 2: never seen no real shit like this shit here. How

1842
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:33,519
Speaker 2: about he do what's best and go fight Errol Spence,

1843
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 2: then shut up, take a little bit less money, be quiet, humble,

1844
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 2: yourself and fight Errol Spence. He has stud sit your

1845
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:43,320
Speaker 2: ass in your weight division and see if you can

1846
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:46,679
Speaker 2: beat one of them, because fuck with me, you're gonna

1847
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 2: get knocked the fuck out. I'm a knockout artist, baby.

1848
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:54,040
Speaker 2: End quote. Unrelated, Luke, there was some I think a

1849
01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 2: TMZ report about some potential troubles with the law for Jermal,

1850
01:26:57,560 --> 01:27:00,720
Speaker 2: so that's something to watch there. But Luke, this is

1851
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 2: far from an easy fight to make. Terrence Crawford versus

1852
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 2: Jamel Charlow at one hundred and fifty four pounds because

1853
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 2: Charlo has two overdue mandatories that he's gonna have to

1854
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:15,559
Speaker 2: do should he get past Brian Castano in their rematch

1855
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 2: to keep all of those belts. But Luca over under

1856
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:26,000
Speaker 2: minus one ten what Terrence Crawford's odds should be if

1857
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 2: he was to accept a fight tomorrow against Jamel Charlo

1858
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:31,879
Speaker 2: at one hundred and fifty four pounds.

1859
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 1: I'll take the under. Here's the thing, Bud is well, okay,

1860
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:39,639
Speaker 1: I think, just so you.

1861
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:41,280
Speaker 2: Know, Luke, just to cut you off one last time,

1862
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:42,880
Speaker 2: Ero Spence is team.

1863
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:44,519
Speaker 1: I don't think that'll be the last time you cut

1864
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:46,640
Speaker 1: me off. But yes, please please continue.

1865
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:49,000
Speaker 2: Jermel Charlo and Errow Spence are teammates. So part of

1866
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 2: this is Jamel Charlo getting his teammates back and saying, Hey, Crawford, dude,

1867
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:54,679
Speaker 2: you should be fighting Spence. You know what I'm saying,

1868
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 2: right right?

1869
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 1: I would say this, but is obviously I think Dremmel

1870
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:01,040
Speaker 1: is probably the slightly more talented of the tube between

1871
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:05,000
Speaker 1: Jameel and Jamal, and I would say that for that

1872
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 1: reason and because he is significant. Well shit, you know, fuck,

1873
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:14,559
Speaker 1: that's a tough one, ship balls.

1874
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:17,240
Speaker 2: I mean, would you agree Bud would be the favorite?

1875
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 2: Do you agree with that?

1876
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:27,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, he probably would be. You know what I'm gonna

1877
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:31,519
Speaker 1: take my answer back. I'll take well, does the over

1878
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:34,720
Speaker 1: make the the minus higher? Like minus ten to mine?

1879
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:36,640
Speaker 2: Over makes him a bigger uh?

1880
01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 1: I'll take the over barely barely. He might be like

1881
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:45,599
Speaker 1: a minus one twenty minus one thirty ish kind of range.

1882
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 2: You I texted you the same, the same the same spirit,

1883
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:54,840
Speaker 2: the same attitude, that same energy. If they freaking made.

1884
01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 2: If we can't get Crawford Spence, which everybody wants and deserves,

1885
01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 2: of course, if Craft moving up to one fifty four

1886
01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 2: and fought Jermel charloie Luke, I'd take my clothes off

1887
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:07,439
Speaker 2: and and go streaking. I mean, this is like this

1888
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:11,320
Speaker 2: is involuntarily shadow boxing in the mirror, Like this is

1889
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:14,160
Speaker 2: you know, your parents on December onest going. I know

1890
01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:16,040
Speaker 2: Christmas is like a few weeks, but you just want

1891
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:18,720
Speaker 2: to open that shit now, Like, yeah, dude, are you

1892
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:22,240
Speaker 2: kidding me? Dude? How high would you be off of

1893
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:23,160
Speaker 2: this news, Luke?

1894
01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:25,839
Speaker 1: I mean I would be very high.

1895
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:28,800
Speaker 2: Do you remember those accidental erections in high school that

1896
01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:30,519
Speaker 2: all you could do was hold like four books in

1897
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 2: front of it when you're walking down the hallway because

1898
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:35,800
Speaker 2: your body's changing, dude, right, and there's chicks, I mean

1899
01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:38,000
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, I mean, well you know it's

1900
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:39,280
Speaker 2: it's science, Luke.

1901
01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:39,599
Speaker 1: Right.

1902
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:43,479
Speaker 2: So yep, Luke, I would have one of those in

1903
01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:47,280
Speaker 2: my day. All dead Wood no more, Luke Alive, Alive

1904
01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:48,600
Speaker 2: and well, okay.

1905
01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:51,479
Speaker 1: We need that bro. Three needles, All right.

1906
01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:53,519
Speaker 2: Here we go, number four, Luke. As you are aware

1907
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:56,720
Speaker 2: by now, I'm setting up shopping good old Deadwood, South

1908
01:29:56,760 --> 01:30:00,280
Speaker 2: Dakota for Showbox Friday Night. I've never been to South Dakota, Luke.

1909
01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:03,559
Speaker 2: Never imagine being in South Dakota and never tried to

1910
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 2: go to South Dakota before. So this is cool, but

1911
01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:10,839
Speaker 2: it's also weird. Luke. The current population in this barren

1912
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:14,759
Speaker 2: state is eight hundred and eighty six thousand people over

1913
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:21,120
Speaker 2: under three three. The amount of current South Dakota residents

1914
01:30:21,400 --> 01:30:25,639
Speaker 2: who make up are one hundred six thousand YouTube MK

1915
01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:27,240
Speaker 2: subscription base.

1916
01:30:30,360 --> 01:30:33,639
Speaker 1: Wow, there are only eight hundred plus thousand people. It's

1917
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:34,799
Speaker 1: all of South Dakota.

1918
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:38,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's like four times that Mountain Connecticut alone, Luke.

1919
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:43,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, DC is seven hundred thousand. That's a small city.

1920
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:50,439
Speaker 1: Three people. I want to make so many jokes about

1921
01:30:50,439 --> 01:30:53,720
Speaker 1: South Dakota right now. I just want to kill them

1922
01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:56,280
Speaker 1: on air. It's like, do three people have Internet in

1923
01:30:56,320 --> 01:30:57,400
Speaker 1: South Dakota. I don't even know.

1924
01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:01,200
Speaker 2: If you are living in South Dakota, and you can

1925
01:31:01,240 --> 01:31:03,280
Speaker 2: prove it morning Combat.

1926
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 1: I'll say ya, I'll take the over. I'll take the over.

1927
01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:07,559
Speaker 1: I think at least three, but it probably ain't many,

1928
01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:09,400
Speaker 1: probably like ten or something.

1929
01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:11,720
Speaker 2: You know, I was driving here, Lucat, this could be

1930
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:13,920
Speaker 2: Saskatchewan for all I know. I mean, it happened to

1931
01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:16,719
Speaker 2: say South Dakota the street sign, but like it's it's

1932
01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:18,720
Speaker 2: it's a different world out here, Okay, Luke, you.

1933
01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:21,160
Speaker 1: Know, Gaff says that he's looking in the chat and

1934
01:31:21,200 --> 01:31:23,679
Speaker 1: no one has identified as being from South Dakota.

1935
01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:25,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, guess like I can't find any South Dakota is

1936
01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:28,360
Speaker 2: like I can find a bunch of racists and misogynists. Yeah,

1937
01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:30,600
Speaker 2: that's the Morning Combat chat for you.

1938
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:34,800
Speaker 1: What are there more of in South Dakota? Antlers on

1939
01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:41,040
Speaker 1: people's walls, or YouTube subscribers for Morning Combat.

1940
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:42,719
Speaker 2: Or YouTube subscribers in general. All right, Luke number five

1941
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:46,600
Speaker 2: of seven UFC welterweight champion kamorrow Usman scoffed at the

1942
01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 2: idea of fighting Hamzat Chimayev this calendar year when he

1943
01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:53,320
Speaker 2: talked to the media last weekend during a scrum at

1944
01:31:53,360 --> 01:31:56,040
Speaker 2: two seven to two, the quote, well, I mean this

1945
01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:57,960
Speaker 2: guy hasn't even fought in the top ten. He hasn't

1946
01:31:57,960 --> 01:32:00,679
Speaker 2: even beat anyone yet, so I mean ring is still

1947
01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:02,599
Speaker 2: standing in the way. So I think there's a couple

1948
01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 2: more fights that he has to get through. End quote.

1949
01:32:06,160 --> 01:32:10,360
Speaker 2: Luke Dana White, when asked that Saturday's postfight presser whether

1950
01:32:10,479 --> 01:32:13,080
Speaker 2: Chamaiah versus Gilbert Burns was a number one contender fight,

1951
01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:17,439
Speaker 2: he responded, Yeah, that makes sense. So Luke considering kamara

1952
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:21,200
Speaker 2: Usman thinks he's boxing Canelo this year, the over under

1953
01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:25,960
Speaker 2: one and a half the amount of victories Kamzat Chimayev

1954
01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:29,960
Speaker 2: will still need to get a shot at kamara Usman's

1955
01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:30,719
Speaker 2: welterweight title.

1956
01:32:35,320 --> 01:32:37,880
Speaker 1: I'll take the under. I'm gonna take the under.

1957
01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:41,479
Speaker 2: Okay, you're gonna take Dana at his word that if

1958
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:45,120
Speaker 2: Chamaiah beats Burns and if Usman doesn't do something else

1959
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:46,560
Speaker 2: after Leon Edwards.

1960
01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:49,360
Speaker 1: Right, right, right, Okay, Yes, I'm gonna take the under.

1961
01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:52,160
Speaker 1: I think that TAMAIAV already has way too much high

1962
01:32:52,240 --> 01:32:53,960
Speaker 1: not too much in the sense that he's undeserving of it.

1963
01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:57,280
Speaker 1: I'm just an overwhelming amount for people to resist themselves.

1964
01:32:57,320 --> 01:33:00,679
Speaker 1: And we've talked about it. You beat somebody the quality

1965
01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:03,920
Speaker 1: of Gilbert Burns, dude, you're you're elite. That's just how

1966
01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:07,360
Speaker 1: it goes because he's super elite. So you get past

1967
01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:11,080
Speaker 1: that one. Granted, you know how many elite wins would

1968
01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:13,320
Speaker 1: you have. He would have one elite win at that point,

1969
01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:15,439
Speaker 1: but that might be the only elite win that you

1970
01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:18,599
Speaker 1: need if your Kamzat Jamaia So if he beats Gilbert Burns,

1971
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:21,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the under I'll say one, well, just

1972
01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:22,479
Speaker 1: just that one, the Gilbert Burns won.

1973
01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:26,320
Speaker 2: Is it gonna be weird, Luke? When we're in the

1974
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:30,479
Speaker 2: midst of this Russian Ukraine thing and there's obvious fears

1975
01:33:30,479 --> 01:33:33,439
Speaker 2: of what direction this could end up going, and there's

1976
01:33:33,520 --> 01:33:36,080
Speaker 2: you know, people are taking an anti Russian stand, whether

1977
01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:38,360
Speaker 2: it's misplaced or not aimed at the fighters or people

1978
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:41,479
Speaker 2: or whatever. If all of these Russians arrive at the

1979
01:33:41,479 --> 01:33:43,839
Speaker 2: same time and take over each division in the UFC,

1980
01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:45,720
Speaker 2: is that gonna be a problem for the UH for

1981
01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:46,759
Speaker 2: the fan base.

1982
01:33:46,640 --> 01:33:52,400
Speaker 1: Luke, portions of them, all right, portions not for me,

1983
01:33:52,920 --> 01:33:53,559
Speaker 1: not for you.

1984
01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:56,759
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of that, Luke, rising UFC bandam wait. Bryce

1985
01:33:56,840 --> 01:34:01,160
Speaker 2: Mitchell appeared last night with tuck O Karl Tuck Carlson

1986
01:34:01,479 --> 01:34:04,880
Speaker 2: on Fox News, explaining his stance on why he would

1987
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 2: never take part as a US citizen in a Russia

1988
01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:12,240
Speaker 2: Ukraine war unless Russia was invading his beloved Arkansas directly.

1989
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:15,640
Speaker 2: Mitchell went on to tell Carlson, quote, I'm not just

1990
01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:18,000
Speaker 2: wanting to go waste my life fighting for some of

1991
01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:20,759
Speaker 2: these battles that I don't even believe in. I believe

1992
01:34:20,800 --> 01:34:23,240
Speaker 2: our leaders a lot of these elites in the US

1993
01:34:23,439 --> 01:34:26,960
Speaker 2: are guilty of treason. What they've done is just treasonous

1994
01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:29,200
Speaker 2: end quote Luke. He went on to say he has

1995
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:32,120
Speaker 2: been getting a huge backlash because of those comments, but

1996
01:34:32,240 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 2: unlike most people, he doesn't have fear in his job

1997
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:37,479
Speaker 2: that he'll lose it by speaking his mind. Luke. Over

1998
01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:42,840
Speaker 2: under eighty four percent of US born UFC fighters right

1999
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:46,519
Speaker 2: now currently have the Fox News app downloaded on their phone.

2000
01:34:46,640 --> 01:34:49,360
Speaker 1: Oh, I'll take the over eighty four seems like a

2001
01:34:49,439 --> 01:34:53,120
Speaker 1: profound undercount. If it's not in the mid to high nineties,

2002
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:57,160
Speaker 1: I would be I would be shocked. I would very

2003
01:34:57,280 --> 01:34:59,800
Speaker 1: much imagine that they I tweeted about this earlier, Like

2004
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:02,280
Speaker 1: there's clearly I mean, people are like that so bad? No,

2005
01:35:02,360 --> 01:35:03,920
Speaker 1: I like what you like? Heye, what you hate? I mean,

2006
01:35:03,960 --> 01:35:06,080
Speaker 1: I'm what like if I tell you that's gonna make

2007
01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:07,720
Speaker 1: any difference. People are gonna do what they're gonna do.

2008
01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:11,680
Speaker 1: But there is clearly a coalition forming. You saw like

2009
01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:14,960
Speaker 1: the sort of the mainstream left wing media kind of

2010
01:35:15,080 --> 01:35:18,000
Speaker 1: coalescing around the NBA and NFL and some of their

2011
01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:21,360
Speaker 1: progressive causes, and you know, like that or hate that,

2012
01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:24,280
Speaker 1: that's up to you. This is something of a different

2013
01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:26,640
Speaker 1: maybe even a response, but certainly the other side of

2014
01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:29,320
Speaker 1: it where you're getting the sort of right wing UFC

2015
01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:32,200
Speaker 1: fighter coalition and dude, they're getting a ton of publicity

2016
01:35:32,240 --> 01:35:34,559
Speaker 1: from it, but you're asking me, who's got that kind

2017
01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:36,559
Speaker 1: of shit on their phone? All of them, virtually all

2018
01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:38,080
Speaker 1: of them. I don't are you impressed?

2019
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:42,240
Speaker 2: Are you just impressed in general with the footprint Bryce

2020
01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:45,560
Speaker 2: Mitchell has made for himself in the past two months?

2021
01:35:46,840 --> 01:35:48,720
Speaker 1: Sure? I mean, here's the thing, dude, Like, I don't

2022
01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:50,719
Speaker 1: know how to answer these questions about people's world views

2023
01:35:50,720 --> 01:35:54,720
Speaker 1: because you know, almost everyone in MMA, including my co

2024
01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:57,759
Speaker 1: host on the show, Brian Campbell, have very different views

2025
01:35:57,800 --> 01:36:00,360
Speaker 1: about the world, and so you know, trying to police

2026
01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:03,360
Speaker 1: everyone to get you to see the world the way

2027
01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:06,200
Speaker 1: that you do is you know, we have to battle

2028
01:36:06,240 --> 01:36:07,960
Speaker 1: that out sometimes, but you also have to be kind

2029
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:09,280
Speaker 1: of you have to have a little bit of humility

2030
01:36:09,280 --> 01:36:10,880
Speaker 1: about like your way is your way and you kind

2031
01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:11,800
Speaker 1: of should leave it that way.

2032
01:36:13,120 --> 01:36:15,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so what get off my ship my way?

2033
01:36:15,560 --> 01:36:17,559
Speaker 1: Well know what I'm saying is, you know, whatever whatever

2034
01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:20,000
Speaker 1: he wants to do on the political side, if nothing,

2035
01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:22,200
Speaker 1: or just go on Tucker once and that's it. It's

2036
01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:24,120
Speaker 1: entirely up to him. I'm trying my best, dude, I

2037
01:36:24,120 --> 01:36:25,960
Speaker 1: really am. I'm trying, and I'm sure I suck at

2038
01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:26,599
Speaker 1: it at times.

2039
01:36:26,760 --> 01:36:28,400
Speaker 2: You know, it's not doing a good job with that.

2040
01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:31,400
Speaker 2: Luke our fan, the snarky ginger, because that time I said,

2041
01:36:31,439 --> 01:36:34,320
Speaker 2: I liked he's chilling cam. Where is Kurt Schilling as

2042
01:36:34,360 --> 01:36:35,240
Speaker 2: a baseball player?

2043
01:36:35,479 --> 01:36:37,120
Speaker 1: Because I was a good baseball player.

2044
01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:39,200
Speaker 2: I was at the Bloody Sock game and I, you know,

2045
01:36:39,320 --> 01:36:40,920
Speaker 2: and he's kind of an asshole and interview so I

2046
01:36:40,920 --> 01:36:43,360
Speaker 2: always kind of liked his snarkiness. She assumed I meant

2047
01:36:43,640 --> 01:36:46,000
Speaker 2: that I like everything he's ever said, Luke, and she

2048
01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:49,599
Speaker 2: is still talking some ash on the old Twitter web.

2049
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:52,439
Speaker 1: All right, fine, I'm just pointing out, you know, it's

2050
01:36:52,479 --> 01:36:55,320
Speaker 1: not just do he went on Tucker because he said something,

2051
01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:58,160
Speaker 1: but he said something at a media event ahead of

2052
01:36:58,200 --> 01:37:01,839
Speaker 1: a fight, and in that fight he formed super Well.

2053
01:37:02,240 --> 01:37:05,960
Speaker 1: It's all part of a general effort, rooted in the

2054
01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:07,880
Speaker 1: work they do in the octagon. I do my I'm

2055
01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:10,400
Speaker 1: sure I fail out to do, but I genuinely try.

2056
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:11,920
Speaker 1: I try, I try, I try.

2057
01:37:12,040 --> 01:37:14,720
Speaker 2: We got to try to keep going to pay tention

2058
01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:17,960
Speaker 2: to the Good Star Great CBS producer Mikey Mormile sliding

2059
01:37:17,960 --> 01:37:21,200
Speaker 2: in saying, we had one hundred and seven YouTube views

2060
01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:24,439
Speaker 2: from the state of South Dakota last month. I don't

2061
01:37:24,439 --> 01:37:26,680
Speaker 2: think that means one hundred and seven separate.

2062
01:37:26,320 --> 01:37:30,519
Speaker 1: People, correct, No, that could be one person just refreshing,

2063
01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:31,720
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty.

2064
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:34,800
Speaker 2: Me because their their WiFi was so bad it just kept,

2065
01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:35,760
Speaker 2: you know, refreshing.

2066
01:37:36,120 --> 01:37:38,920
Speaker 1: They were looking for a McDonald's WiFi, but there's no McDonald's.

2067
01:37:39,120 --> 01:37:41,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, indeed, Luke, all right, I got one more

2068
01:37:41,320 --> 01:37:42,840
Speaker 2: for you on over onder, here we go. This is

2069
01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:46,519
Speaker 2: a true story from this morning. Luke, while at Bradley

2070
01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:51,000
Speaker 2: International Airport in Harford, Connecticut, windsor locks kinnetic excuse me,

2071
01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:54,040
Speaker 2: I stood in line at the Dunkin Donuts two spots

2072
01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:58,760
Speaker 2: ahead of Yukon women's basketball coach Gino Oriema, who Luke

2073
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:01,839
Speaker 2: you may know, is revere in my state like a deity.

2074
01:38:02,360 --> 01:38:05,240
Speaker 2: And he was also with assistant coach and nineteen ninety

2075
01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:08,760
Speaker 2: five national champion Jamel Elliott. Luke, this is just two

2076
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:12,439
Speaker 2: days removed from the women's Huskies team winning their twentieth

2077
01:38:12,479 --> 01:38:15,680
Speaker 2: Big East Tournament. Elliott was talking kind of loud and

2078
01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:20,080
Speaker 2: relaying to Gino that star sophomore Paige Beckers, who finally

2079
01:38:20,160 --> 01:38:22,880
Speaker 2: returned from a much publicized knee injury two weeks ago,

2080
01:38:23,200 --> 01:38:25,639
Speaker 2: was complaining about her minutes played, and Luke I looked

2081
01:38:25,680 --> 01:38:28,200
Speaker 2: it up. Page played just nine minutes off the bench

2082
01:38:28,240 --> 01:38:31,120
Speaker 2: in their thirty point blowout of Villanova in the Big

2083
01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:34,360
Speaker 2: Eiast Final, and Gino's like, well, you know, look, you know,

2084
01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:38,800
Speaker 2: basically saying she's a fireplug. She's coming after it. Luke,

2085
01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:42,839
Speaker 2: over under three and a half the amount of women's

2086
01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:46,479
Speaker 2: basketball games college or pro that you have watched from

2087
01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:50,320
Speaker 2: start to finish over the course of your forty two year.

2088
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:56,960
Speaker 1: Life, zero zero, start to finish. I've seen long portions.

2089
01:38:57,360 --> 01:38:59,720
Speaker 2: You hypocrite, misogynist.

2090
01:38:59,800 --> 01:39:03,160
Speaker 1: Luke. I'm sorry, I just don't. I don't it does.

2091
01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:06,120
Speaker 1: Women's basketball doesn't do anything for me. I'm sorry, it doesn't.

2092
01:39:06,400 --> 01:39:10,280
Speaker 1: I mean, by the way, I'm not.

2093
01:39:10,240 --> 01:39:12,439
Speaker 2: Even a Yukon women fan. And when you're in Connecticut,

2094
01:39:12,520 --> 01:39:14,240
Speaker 2: it's just like you got to step over that ship.

2095
01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:17,840
Speaker 2: I mean, it's in your face every second, every day, Luke.

2096
01:39:18,080 --> 01:39:20,240
Speaker 2: You know, it's like secondhand smoke, you know what I'm saying,

2097
01:39:20,479 --> 01:39:23,200
Speaker 2: Like asbestos. Luke that's what the Yukon women's team is

2098
01:39:23,240 --> 01:39:23,840
Speaker 2: in Connecticut.

2099
01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:27,040
Speaker 1: As I'm not saying you can't like these things or

2100
01:39:27,080 --> 01:39:29,439
Speaker 1: people out there can't like them. It just doesn't appeal

2101
01:39:29,479 --> 01:39:31,840
Speaker 1: to me. And that's okay. But yeah, how many have

2102
01:39:31,840 --> 01:39:32,880
Speaker 1: I seen start to finish?

2103
01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:35,160
Speaker 2: It's like, have any of them made me a sandwich

2104
01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:36,439
Speaker 2: in the past week? I'm supporting that.

2105
01:39:36,640 --> 01:39:39,839
Speaker 1: Oh fuck off, it's not that you fucking hate.

2106
01:39:39,680 --> 01:39:43,440
Speaker 2: Her, all right, Luke, let's close quickly here with fansubmissions.

2107
01:39:43,479 --> 01:39:47,000
Speaker 2: Morning Combat at gmail dot com is the email address

2108
01:39:47,040 --> 01:39:49,720
Speaker 2: to send in yourselves wearing tight T shirts and all

2109
01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:52,200
Speaker 2: that shit. Uh, we've got mail, let's do it.

2110
01:39:53,160 --> 01:39:53,920
Speaker 1: We've got mail.

2111
01:39:54,320 --> 01:39:58,080
Speaker 2: We've got male viewers. Yes we do, look all right, Yes,

2112
01:39:58,640 --> 01:40:02,040
Speaker 2: ragingly single male viewers. Here's Adam, he says, Luke. Put

2113
01:40:02,080 --> 01:40:05,080
Speaker 2: a sticky note under your camera that says you aren't

2114
01:40:05,120 --> 01:40:08,200
Speaker 2: on radio anymore, so you can realize you don't have

2115
01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:11,120
Speaker 2: to cut to commercial or end your show on time,

2116
01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:14,439
Speaker 2: so goober mcfuckface can come on after you and talk

2117
01:40:14,439 --> 01:40:18,439
Speaker 2: about downhill skiing or some bullshit. The fans enjoy the shows.

2118
01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:21,720
Speaker 2: Put something stronger than nicotine in the vabe so you

2119
01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:24,439
Speaker 2: can relax, just let them happen. Look, this was a

2120
01:40:24,560 --> 01:40:27,400
Speaker 2: roast of you, worthy of dead wrong on Friday.

2121
01:40:27,840 --> 01:40:30,479
Speaker 1: Yes, this is a very very very funny one. The

2122
01:40:30,520 --> 01:40:34,320
Speaker 1: reason why we all had meetings prior to those shows

2123
01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:36,400
Speaker 1: saying we wanted the show to go a little bit quicker.

2124
01:40:36,640 --> 01:40:39,720
Speaker 1: Granted we are not good at doing that, but that's

2125
01:40:39,760 --> 01:40:41,320
Speaker 1: why I do. I was trying to just move the

2126
01:40:41,320 --> 01:40:42,920
Speaker 1: show along. I wasn't trying to I wasn't trying to

2127
01:40:42,920 --> 01:40:43,599
Speaker 1: hate on your art.

2128
01:40:43,680 --> 01:40:46,599
Speaker 2: Be see, thank you. Here comes Nick, He says, quote

2129
01:40:46,680 --> 01:40:49,519
Speaker 2: another funny. I think he thinks he's got another funny

2130
01:40:49,520 --> 01:40:50,000
Speaker 2: meme for us.

2131
01:40:50,040 --> 01:40:50,160
Speaker 1: Luke.

2132
01:40:50,240 --> 01:40:55,960
Speaker 2: Let's see it. What does Nick have? Yeah?

2133
01:40:56,080 --> 01:40:58,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean is that racist?

2134
01:40:58,520 --> 01:41:02,120
Speaker 2: You know, as Mike Goldberg would say, Luke virtually identical

2135
01:41:02,280 --> 01:41:03,920
Speaker 2: and to be is it weird? Are they saying because

2136
01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:06,559
Speaker 2: you were born in India, that's why, Luke, that's racist? Yeah?

2137
01:41:06,640 --> 01:41:08,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is uh. We should move on from this one.

2138
01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:12,200
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, God, I mean, don't don't don't let

2139
01:41:12,200 --> 01:41:14,360
Speaker 2: the Indian cry Luke make the India. I mean, that's

2140
01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:17,559
Speaker 2: just mean. Come on, Luke, the Native American police Luke

2141
01:41:17,640 --> 01:41:20,920
Speaker 2: Adam slides in a different atom this subreddit is full

2142
01:41:20,960 --> 01:41:24,680
Speaker 2: of people shitting on Luke for his newly found midlife crisis.

2143
01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:28,679
Speaker 2: Vaping Habit decided to throw a few shitty memes together

2144
01:41:29,040 --> 01:41:31,120
Speaker 2: with some of the best stuff I saw out there,

2145
01:41:31,560 --> 01:41:33,519
Speaker 2: shouts to the subreddit for credit.

2146
01:41:33,960 --> 01:41:40,360
Speaker 1: Okay, something new, there we go. It's Isabella. Yeah, what

2147
01:41:40,479 --> 01:41:41,640
Speaker 1: else can I do?

2148
01:41:41,840 --> 01:41:45,200
Speaker 2: I don't even know Contigo and I still understand this, Luke, Okay,

2149
01:41:46,160 --> 01:41:46,840
Speaker 2: and then and.

2150
01:41:46,760 --> 01:41:49,040
Speaker 1: Then me and I Beel says bring it in, bringing in,

2151
01:41:49,080 --> 01:41:52,439
Speaker 1: which the translation was Beneka benaka, gotta get that?

2152
01:41:53,680 --> 01:41:59,120
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, yes, all right, any anything else from

2153
01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:00,679
Speaker 2: Adham or can we go on the day of Jeff?

2154
01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:06,439
Speaker 2: Thanks Jeff? Oh, here's one more?

2155
01:42:08,840 --> 01:42:09,240
Speaker 1: All right?

2156
01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:12,200
Speaker 2: I mean, Luke, eventually they'll break you right now. It's like, okay,

2157
01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:15,240
Speaker 2: we've seen these joke guys, pawnny, funny, but soon you'll

2158
01:42:15,240 --> 01:42:18,080
Speaker 2: turn on them, Luke. Okay, And I mean we're getting close.

2159
01:42:17,880 --> 01:42:24,320
Speaker 1: There, I'm telling you, I'll here we go. I would

2160
01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:27,360
Speaker 1: be listen, Luke, Yeah, listen, I've had you know, not

2161
01:42:27,479 --> 01:42:29,800
Speaker 1: every photo somewhat takes of you as your best Let's

2162
01:42:29,800 --> 01:42:30,639
Speaker 1: put it that one.

2163
01:42:30,800 --> 01:42:32,559
Speaker 2: I mean, look, I can't say anything because the photos

2164
01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:35,879
Speaker 2: of me during that age are you know, virtually identical,

2165
01:42:35,920 --> 01:42:38,559
Speaker 2: as they'd say. Again, but that guy, there's a lot

2166
01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:40,080
Speaker 2: to spare in that guy's eyes, Luke O.

2167
01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:42,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, I was a true story. I was drinking

2168
01:42:42,960 --> 01:42:44,920
Speaker 1: every day at this time. I left every single day.

2169
01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:48,880
Speaker 2: Your haircut represents that. Thank you. I mean, you know,

2170
01:42:49,160 --> 01:42:51,080
Speaker 2: it looked like you got back from the audition for

2171
01:42:51,160 --> 01:42:54,800
Speaker 2: a higher learning Luke Remy, you know Michael Rappaport, Yeah,

2172
01:42:54,840 --> 01:42:55,599
Speaker 2: all right, Luke.

2173
01:42:55,640 --> 01:42:58,800
Speaker 3: Finally, Dave says, gents, As a fellow parent of a

2174
01:42:58,840 --> 01:43:02,040
Speaker 3: small child, I feel Luke's pain when he talks about

2175
01:43:02,160 --> 01:43:05,679
Speaker 3: kids requesting songs on repeat. So I put my insane

2176
01:43:05,720 --> 01:43:10,120
Speaker 3: photoshop skills aka cutting and pasting and PowerPoint to use

2177
01:43:10,240 --> 01:43:12,559
Speaker 3: and tried to capture my feelings about a certain song

2178
01:43:12,600 --> 01:43:16,720
Speaker 3: from Encanto by screenshotting Luke's face at the exact.

2179
01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:20,720
Speaker 2: Moment Tukey asked for it the ten thousandth time. Love

2180
01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:22,200
Speaker 2: you guys. Keep it with the good work. I hope

2181
01:43:22,200 --> 01:43:26,240
Speaker 2: to catch your live show. Blah blah blah. So the

2182
01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:29,040
Speaker 2: Donks and I can once again attempt to overthrow the

2183
01:43:29,120 --> 01:43:33,240
Speaker 2: editorial electoral process and put MK in the Combat Sports

2184
01:43:33,240 --> 01:43:38,960
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. Stay frothy, it's Knobby Buckles aka Dave Luke.

2185
01:43:39,120 --> 01:43:40,200
Speaker 2: Can you explain this meme to me?

2186
01:43:41,000 --> 01:43:44,160
Speaker 1: Uh? I? Okay, So Bruno was a character who was

2187
01:43:44,200 --> 01:43:45,800
Speaker 1: like one of the uncles who was hiding in the

2188
01:43:45,800 --> 01:43:48,080
Speaker 1: walls because he didn't want to get blamed for shit basically,

2189
01:43:48,640 --> 01:43:51,360
Speaker 1: and they don't talk about him, and no, I don't

2190
01:43:51,360 --> 01:43:51,840
Speaker 1: really get this.

2191
01:43:52,720 --> 01:43:54,880
Speaker 2: All right, all right, there it is.

2192
01:43:55,280 --> 01:43:57,519
Speaker 1: I guess I did I shit on conversation about Bruno silvm.

2193
01:43:57,520 --> 01:43:58,559
Speaker 1: I don't remember that, but maybe I.

2194
01:43:58,680 --> 01:44:01,240
Speaker 2: Know you didn't. They just them? Do you get real excited? So, Luke,

2195
01:44:01,240 --> 01:44:02,960
Speaker 2: here's the thing. I gotta pee really bad. I'm sure

2196
01:44:02,960 --> 01:44:05,679
Speaker 2: you got a few other jobs or some vape channels

2197
01:44:05,720 --> 01:44:11,360
Speaker 2: to watch, and you know, so keem trails to research show. Yeah,

2198
01:44:11,479 --> 01:44:12,000
Speaker 2: there it is.

2199
01:44:12,200 --> 01:44:12,640
Speaker 1: There it is.

2200
01:44:12,720 --> 01:44:16,960
Speaker 2: Get that shit out, wash that wash that down with

2201
01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:19,880
Speaker 2: an energy drink like a real American Luke. Okay, dire

2202
01:44:19,960 --> 01:44:20,960
Speaker 2: Mountain do BC.

2203
01:44:21,320 --> 01:44:23,160
Speaker 1: God damn, where's my side arm.

2204
01:44:23,640 --> 01:44:26,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go fuel around Deadwood like a blind man

2205
01:44:26,160 --> 01:44:28,599
Speaker 2: and an orgy Luke. Yeah right, you know what I mean.

2206
01:44:28,760 --> 01:44:32,080
Speaker 2: Just get immersed in this shit, right? Yeah? Okay, what

2207
01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:33,080
Speaker 2: do you do?

2208
01:44:33,160 --> 01:44:35,400
Speaker 1: What is there to do in Deadwood? Except for Friday?

2209
01:44:35,439 --> 01:44:36,879
Speaker 1: To go to the fights and watch them on showtime.

2210
01:44:36,960 --> 01:44:38,519
Speaker 1: But short of that, what is there to do?

2211
01:44:39,280 --> 01:44:41,160
Speaker 2: Well? You know, I think the best way how would

2212
01:44:41,200 --> 01:44:44,800
Speaker 2: you describe the Deadwood nightlife? It's me after my vac

2213
01:44:44,880 --> 01:44:47,120
Speaker 2: sect to me, Luke, you know what I mean? Just

2214
01:44:47,720 --> 01:44:49,920
Speaker 2: Deadwood indeed, Luke, okay.

2215
01:44:49,640 --> 01:44:51,759
Speaker 1: Gummy bears and you crying in a tub.

2216
01:44:52,120 --> 01:44:55,200
Speaker 2: Here's what I'll say. So far people, the people are outstanding,

2217
01:44:55,280 --> 01:45:00,000
Speaker 2: and there's a very cheesy wild West vibe to everything.

2218
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:03,000
Speaker 2: Thing right, you know, like in so far Luke. You

2219
01:45:03,040 --> 01:45:08,360
Speaker 2: know I've been to Redneck Vegas aka Pigeon Forge in Gatlinburg, Tennessee. Luke, Okay,

2220
01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:11,439
Speaker 2: but this has a very Branson, Missouri type of feel

2221
01:45:11,520 --> 01:45:13,280
Speaker 2: to it. And you know those who know they know, Luke.

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01:45:13,320 --> 01:45:18,000
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, Well, I wish you nothing, but uh, don't

2223
01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:19,719
Speaker 1: get shot. Don't get shot.

2224
01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:23,080
Speaker 2: Just you think I will get challenged to a duel

2225
01:45:23,120 --> 01:45:25,080
Speaker 2: at all along here, because I'll aeron bird the ship

2226
01:45:25,160 --> 01:45:27,240
Speaker 2: on somebody. Luke, Yeah, right.

2227
01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:30,200
Speaker 1: I don't think he'll get challenged to a duel, but

2228
01:45:30,240 --> 01:45:31,920
Speaker 1: you might get bucked in the parking lot if you

2229
01:45:31,960 --> 01:45:32,719
Speaker 1: give someone the side.

2230
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:36,639
Speaker 2: You know, I think every man deserves to get shipped

2231
01:45:36,680 --> 01:45:37,200
Speaker 2: at least.

2232
01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:40,160
Speaker 1: Once, right, Luke, between the sixth and seventh rid. You

2233
01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:42,639
Speaker 1: gotta that's where get to the lung just you.

2234
01:45:42,600 --> 01:45:47,639
Speaker 2: Know, fish yeah yeah, fresh meat yeah right, nasty.

2235
01:45:49,000 --> 01:45:51,800
Speaker 1: Your question, because I know you're bitch, asked, do they

2236
01:45:51,880 --> 01:45:56,080
Speaker 1: and this is real, do they have uber eats in Deadwood,

2237
01:45:56,120 --> 01:45:58,360
Speaker 1: South Dakota? I know you checked you.

2238
01:45:58,640 --> 01:46:02,519
Speaker 2: I'm about to find out. I'm not kidding. Every single

2239
01:46:02,760 --> 01:46:06,080
Speaker 2: restaurant in this city town is a steakhouse. I'm not

2240
01:46:06,120 --> 01:46:06,880
Speaker 2: even kidding, Luke.

2241
01:46:07,160 --> 01:46:10,120
Speaker 1: Every single steaks must be good, right, I mean, if

2242
01:46:10,200 --> 01:46:12,200
Speaker 1: everyone's doing it like the pretty.

2243
01:46:11,920 --> 01:46:22,040
Speaker 2: Good, if everyone's vaping, I might fun. You know it's great, right, Yeah.

2244
01:46:19,640 --> 01:46:21,880
Speaker 1: That's really dude, these vabe jokes. I'm gonna keep vaping

2245
01:46:21,920 --> 01:46:24,280
Speaker 1: them because these are actually I love this roasting. It's

2246
01:46:24,280 --> 01:46:25,120
Speaker 1: fucking hilarious.

2247
01:46:25,200 --> 01:46:27,400
Speaker 2: You know how how high tea am I in this

2248
01:46:27,479 --> 01:46:30,599
Speaker 2: Deadwood hat compared to the one Love hat? Luke?

2249
01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:34,040
Speaker 1: I gotta say it brings out a you know what?

2250
01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:35,679
Speaker 1: You know why I like it because it's that hunter

2251
01:46:35,840 --> 01:46:38,120
Speaker 1: orange right, Because sometimes the hunters by rules have to

2252
01:46:38,120 --> 01:46:40,640
Speaker 1: wear that orange vest with a hunting the deer or

2253
01:46:40,840 --> 01:46:43,800
Speaker 1: a lot of hunting circumstances it's you got, you know what,

2254
01:46:43,840 --> 01:46:46,000
Speaker 1: you got a little bit of a Your car makes

2255
01:46:46,040 --> 01:46:48,400
Speaker 1: you look like you're on the trip to Lilith Fair,

2256
01:46:48,560 --> 01:46:51,000
Speaker 1: so that doesn't work. But the hat makes you look

2257
01:46:51,080 --> 01:46:54,080
Speaker 1: like you're on the way to the gas station to

2258
01:46:54,160 --> 01:46:57,280
Speaker 1: get some tackle to go fish or maybe go hunt.

2259
01:46:57,479 --> 01:46:59,360
Speaker 2: You can get at and get a little shit in

2260
01:46:59,400 --> 01:47:02,280
Speaker 2: the lip, Luke, I look like I really do look

2261
01:47:02,360 --> 01:47:05,439
Speaker 2: like a backwoodster right now. You know. There's that's the thing.

2262
01:47:05,479 --> 01:47:08,680
Speaker 2: Look do I clean up well on camera sometimes, but

2263
01:47:08,720 --> 01:47:11,920
Speaker 2: you can't forget your roots, Luke. Okay, I represent nuggets

2264
01:47:11,960 --> 01:47:14,639
Speaker 2: of Connecticut even when I'm in Deadwood. Okay. And we

2265
01:47:14,640 --> 01:47:16,320
Speaker 2: we we could fit in around here.

2266
01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:20,920
Speaker 1: I don't think you could fit in around there. I

2267
01:47:20,920 --> 01:47:22,360
Speaker 1: don't think I could fit in around there. No, we

2268
01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:24,320
Speaker 1: could not fit in around there. We could get by,

2269
01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:27,000
Speaker 1: we can't really fit in. I probably fit in, Yeah,

2270
01:47:27,040 --> 01:47:28,160
Speaker 1: I bet i'd fit in more.

2271
01:47:28,200 --> 01:47:29,120
Speaker 2: And uh.

2272
01:47:30,640 --> 01:47:31,439
Speaker 1: No, I won't say that.

2273
01:47:31,479 --> 01:47:34,960
Speaker 2: But at a brothel, Yeah, at a Latin brothel.

2274
01:47:34,760 --> 01:47:41,120
Speaker 1: Luke, Latin Brothelude, I mean you're kidding me. That's that's home, buddy,

2275
01:47:41,560 --> 01:47:41,960
Speaker 1: all right.

2276
01:47:42,320 --> 01:47:46,360
Speaker 2: Special thanks Luke, to the to the viewers for adjusting

2277
01:47:46,360 --> 01:47:49,439
Speaker 2: your time so that BC could fly because again go

2278
01:47:49,479 --> 01:47:51,800
Speaker 2: look up Hart for the rapid city flights. There's not

2279
01:47:51,840 --> 01:47:53,880
Speaker 2: a lot of them, Luke. But I'll be here again

2280
01:47:53,960 --> 01:47:58,200
Speaker 2: on Friday with you Friday Night Showbox. The new generation,

2281
01:47:58,800 --> 01:48:01,200
Speaker 2: get your thirty days a show time right now because

2282
01:48:01,240 --> 01:48:04,280
Speaker 2: there's so much bellator coming at you, so much great boxing.

2283
01:48:04,320 --> 01:48:07,559
Speaker 2: But of course come support what BC's doing with Barry

2284
01:48:07,560 --> 01:48:11,840
Speaker 2: Tompkins and Luke. You know our colleague Raoul Marquez, former

2285
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:16,480
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty four pound world champion l Diamante

2286
01:48:16,520 --> 01:48:18,519
Speaker 2: as you mentioned, well, you know, look seriously, one of

2287
01:48:18,560 --> 01:48:21,920
Speaker 2: the better analysts in the game today, no question. His

2288
01:48:22,120 --> 01:48:26,759
Speaker 2: son Giovanni Marquez, a US national Golden Gloves champion, making

2289
01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:30,200
Speaker 2: his pro debut in Friday Night's tripleheader, a four round

2290
01:48:30,200 --> 01:48:32,160
Speaker 2: bout to kick it off. There's a big deal. Look,

2291
01:48:32,200 --> 01:48:35,360
Speaker 2: I think he will become just the sixth fighter in

2292
01:48:35,439 --> 01:48:38,639
Speaker 2: Showbox's twenty one year history to make their pro debut

2293
01:48:38,840 --> 01:48:42,080
Speaker 2: on the show. So wow, Raoul is going to be

2294
01:48:42,120 --> 01:48:44,880
Speaker 2: the head trainer in the corner and the way he is.

2295
01:48:44,800 --> 01:48:47,240
Speaker 1: Going to adjust you and Barry on commentary.

2296
01:48:46,960 --> 01:48:49,519
Speaker 2: For the first fight and then Raoul after the you know,

2297
01:48:49,560 --> 01:48:52,080
Speaker 2: hopeful celebration or we'll see what happens. You know, Nelson

2298
01:48:52,120 --> 01:48:54,880
Speaker 2: Morals is coming on. He's going to be back in

2299
01:48:54,880 --> 01:48:58,040
Speaker 2: the booth with Barry Tompkins and myself. Steve Farhad, of course,

2300
01:48:58,120 --> 01:48:59,320
Speaker 2: is going to be part of the broadcast the Hall

2301
01:48:59,320 --> 01:49:02,280
Speaker 2: of Famer, so live from Deadwood, Luke, I don't know

2302
01:49:02,320 --> 01:49:04,559
Speaker 2: what it's gonna look like, but tune in to find out.

2303
01:49:04,680 --> 01:49:07,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, that's dude, that's a that's a man. Can

2304
01:49:07,320 --> 01:49:09,759
Speaker 1: you imagine like cornering your Sun for their pro debut

2305
01:49:09,800 --> 01:49:12,200
Speaker 1: on national television and then you have to go call

2306
01:49:12,280 --> 01:49:14,000
Speaker 1: fights on national television. Fucking row.

2307
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:15,880
Speaker 2: You know what that means?

2308
01:49:15,760 --> 01:49:17,080
Speaker 1: That they work cut out for him? Hey, could you

2309
01:49:17,080 --> 01:49:18,920
Speaker 1: turn off more lights so we can't there we go?

2310
01:49:19,240 --> 01:49:21,320
Speaker 2: You know what that means, Luke? Two paychecks? Okay, right,

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01:49:21,360 --> 01:49:24,160
Speaker 2: maybe Raoult smarter than we are, Okay, all right, two paychecks?

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Speaker 1: Like what you're doing today, you fucking ape? I know?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, Afternoon, Luke. Afternoon Combat gets off the rails

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Speaker 2: a bit, but it's a fairly good show. You know.

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Speaker 1: I liked. I didn't mind this afternoon slot. I feel

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01:49:35,920 --> 01:49:39,560
Speaker 1: I'm feeling, I'm feeling frisky. I might go vape in my.

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01:49:40,680 --> 01:49:42,479
Speaker 2: I'm like, I know, I just got off the plane,

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01:49:42,479 --> 01:49:45,160
Speaker 2: but do they have the eighth row of Delta in

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Speaker 2: this town at all? Luke? Okay, I need to I'll

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01:49:47,680 --> 01:49:49,600
Speaker 2: take the exit row if that's all you got, But

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Speaker 2: can we please? Okay?

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01:49:51,479 --> 01:49:53,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like the eighth row exit row. The seats

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01:49:53,439 --> 01:49:55,400
Speaker 1: don't recline, but on the eighth row, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: For some reason, you just feel great, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean?

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Speaker 2: Think about this move, Luke. From Hartford to Minneapolis this morning.

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01:50:00,680 --> 01:50:02,920
Speaker 2: I'm in the exit row, but I'm alone, right, so

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01:50:03,040 --> 01:50:07,519
Speaker 2: that's great. Unbuckle the belt, use my backpack as a pillow,

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01:50:07,840 --> 01:50:11,200
Speaker 2: spread across all three and fall asleep. But I kept

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Speaker 2: my shoes on? Is that a white trash mover?

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Speaker 1: Is that?

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01:50:14,560 --> 01:50:14,880
Speaker 2: Okay?

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01:50:16,520 --> 01:50:19,240
Speaker 1: No? If you for sure, if you had taken the

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Speaker 1: shoes off, you'd be dubbed t. But because you kept

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Speaker 1: them on, it's borderline. But I don't think it counts.

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01:50:25,360 --> 01:50:28,599
Speaker 1: I don't think that counts selfish maybe selfish little prick,

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Speaker 1: East coast prick.

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01:50:30,760 --> 01:50:34,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know there's an East Coast bias, Luke MK.

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01:50:34,400 --> 01:50:37,560
Speaker 2: Social star Brendan Lynch sliding into our zoom? Do you

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01:50:37,600 --> 01:50:39,800
Speaker 2: see it on his Instagram loop that he grapples.

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01:50:40,680 --> 01:50:42,280
Speaker 1: I didn't. I did not say that. I would like

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Speaker 1: to set.

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01:50:42,600 --> 01:50:45,320
Speaker 2: It, considering you have ten years grappling experience, I'd like

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01:50:45,360 --> 01:50:47,519
Speaker 2: to set up a little a little super fight. Maybe

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01:50:47,520 --> 01:50:50,280
Speaker 2: we'll maybe we'll run it out of high rollers.

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01:50:51,600 --> 01:50:56,040
Speaker 1: B See, I'm retired. You understand that I don't do

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01:50:56,120 --> 01:50:56,679
Speaker 1: that anymore.

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01:50:56,800 --> 01:50:59,599
Speaker 2: If Brendan Lynch comes at the King Body, he's.

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01:50:59,479 --> 01:51:01,000
Speaker 1: Not gonna limb. I'm trying to. I'm trying to get

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01:51:01,040 --> 01:51:02,920
Speaker 1: some vapes and some Delta eights in here, not some

2351
01:51:03,080 --> 01:51:03,679
Speaker 1: arm bars.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, all right? Uh yeah, Well, hey, Luke,

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01:51:08,240 --> 01:51:10,720
Speaker 2: we'll find out if we win more awards, and you

2354
01:51:10,760 --> 01:51:13,200
Speaker 2: know who knows. I mean, can we tell the people

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01:51:13,240 --> 01:51:14,960
Speaker 2: we got some we got some big plans, Luke.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, you can vote for us for Best Combat

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01:51:18,360 --> 01:51:21,880
Speaker 1: Sports Podcast as Sports Podcast Awards, and that'd be great

2358
01:51:22,280 --> 01:51:24,439
Speaker 1: if we win that. I think we get some real

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01:51:24,520 --> 01:51:27,400
Speaker 1: cool ship to do so, so do that so we

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Speaker 1: can with you, with you, guys, with you, guys.

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01:51:30,320 --> 01:51:32,360
Speaker 2: True or false? Not only are you and I going

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01:51:32,439 --> 01:51:35,400
Speaker 2: to be back in Jersey Cita sooner than later for

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01:51:35,479 --> 01:51:39,559
Speaker 2: another round of let's make award winning content, but you

2364
01:51:39,600 --> 01:51:43,280
Speaker 2: and I might be visiting South Florida together soon.

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01:51:44,160 --> 01:51:46,680
Speaker 1: We might be visiting South Florida very soon together, so

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01:51:46,720 --> 01:51:47,400
Speaker 1: that should be fun.

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01:51:47,560 --> 01:51:49,639
Speaker 2: On let we do some big boys shit down there.

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01:51:49,800 --> 01:51:52,240
Speaker 1: So what you know, gonna be in some gonna be

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Speaker 1: in some some BBL heaven, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no masks allowed in Florida, Luke, Okay.

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01:51:58,360 --> 01:52:01,800
Speaker 1: All right, they dropped the mask mandate, so who cares

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01:52:01,800 --> 01:52:04,439
Speaker 1: at this point? I guess all right, BC, let's call

2373
01:52:04,439 --> 01:52:06,880
Speaker 1: it a day. Enjoy Deadwood. If you want to follow

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Speaker 1: us on social, you can see the graphic below. Morning

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01:52:08,760 --> 01:52:11,559
Speaker 1: Combat's name is the same everywhere, and then there's BC

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Speaker 1: and I email the show Morning Coombat at gmail dot

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Speaker 1: com for Friday's dead Wrong war content coming tomorrow, by

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Speaker 1: the way, so be on the lookout for that. Showtime

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Speaker 1: is the label that pays us and BC especially. You

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Speaker 1: go to showtime dot com get a thirty day free trial.

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Speaker 1: You can catch BC for free. Look at that. Look

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Speaker 1: at that pull up just a little higher. There you go.

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01:52:31,160 --> 01:52:35,400
Speaker 1: You can get that merch. I think at Morningcombat dot store.

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Speaker 1: I think is that up there yet?

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01:52:36,920 --> 01:52:37,760
Speaker 2: Yeah? That's up there.

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Speaker 1: Luke's okay, there you go. There you go, So visit

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Speaker 1: Morningcombat dot store to get that and BC any final words.

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01:52:44,439 --> 01:52:46,879
Speaker 2: No, thank you, folks, thank you for being great listeners,

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01:52:46,880 --> 01:52:47,519
Speaker 2: great viewers.

2390
01:52:47,600 --> 01:52:48,160
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

2391
01:52:48,200 --> 01:52:50,559
Speaker 2: You tell it like it is. The things you don't like,

2392
01:52:50,640 --> 01:52:53,000
Speaker 2: you tell us the things you do like though, tell

2393
01:52:53,000 --> 01:52:55,559
Speaker 2: a friend. Okay, let's get this. Luke, we've been stuck

2394
01:52:55,680 --> 01:52:57,719
Speaker 2: right Remember when that Remember that time they're like, he's

2395
01:52:57,720 --> 01:53:00,400
Speaker 2: sitting on seven fourteen and then hank you and hit

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01:53:00,400 --> 01:53:02,719
Speaker 2: it out of the park. Been it broke the damn record,

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01:53:02,800 --> 01:53:06,719
Speaker 2: Luke We April fourth, April eight, I'm sorry, nineteen seventy four. Luke,

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01:53:06,960 --> 01:53:10,920
Speaker 2: we are been sitting on one oh four, one oh five,

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Speaker 2: one oh six, one hundred thousand YouTube subscribers for a

2400
01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:18,120
Speaker 2: long time. What's it gonna take for the remaining freeloaders

2401
01:53:18,120 --> 01:53:21,479
Speaker 2: who have been down with MK since day one to

2402
01:53:21,560 --> 01:53:25,160
Speaker 2: click that subscribe button to stop being a freeloader?

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01:53:26,640 --> 01:53:28,880
Speaker 1: O ecusion our content strategy.

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01:53:31,000 --> 01:53:32,400
Speaker 2: All right, then we'll work on it.

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01:53:33,680 --> 01:53:36,639
Speaker 1: We gotta go, all right, for Malca, for CBS Sports,

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01:53:36,640 --> 01:53:41,799
Speaker 1: for Showtime, for Deadwood, South Dakota and BC's Frustrated Uber Eats.

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01:53:42,080 --> 01:53:43,920
Speaker 1: I'm Luke Thomas. We'll see you guys on Friday, and

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Speaker 1: until then, May all of your games be loyal,