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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where finally the Claymates can be satiated.

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Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal here in the Chris Westling podcast studio

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Speaker 1: for the first time in a couple of weeks. Good

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Speaker 1: to be back. I'm with Jordan rod Rieg. We spoke

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Speaker 1: with her on Monday, so it's great to be in

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Speaker 1: person with you. But for the first time in a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Yes, not just the Clay Bass out there,

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Speaker 1: but the Clay bon Vivants. The ooh that was when

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Speaker 1: I forgot about how come Patrick Claybond.

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Speaker 2: Just glad to be back in proximity with you, guys.

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Speaker 2: I was glad that the world got access to you.

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Speaker 2: But I'm and we're back to talk ball, which is

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Speaker 2: what we're put on this earth to do.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'd like to think I'm a good family

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Speaker 1: man too, if I had to choose. You know, I

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Speaker 1: was put on this earth hopefully for them, just as

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Speaker 1: much as Baul.

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Speaker 3: But I do love ball.

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Speaker 2: No, yeah, well, Greg put on Earth rankings obviously family

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Speaker 2: and I.

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Speaker 4: Took issue with oh, well he rank things, so yea,

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Speaker 2: Really did then, and then talking Ball is in the

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Speaker 2: top ten ranking.

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Speaker 1: I do love I do love to rank, I love

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Speaker 1: to eat. I left to rank things that I ate.

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Speaker 1: We're going to be ranking things later on this show

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Speaker 1: during the week. The top one oh one is coming

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Speaker 1: out on this show.

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Speaker 5: Scared seclusively.

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Speaker 1: Exclusively on NFL Daily for the first time on Friday.

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Speaker 1: My written editor doesn't know people are getting.

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Speaker 5: Access to the list early on this show.

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Speaker 3: That's that's absolutely right.

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Speaker 1: And my written editor doesn't know, but he probably doesn't

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Speaker 1: listen to the show, So we'll see if that flies.

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Speaker 1: I maybe blew that by talking about it early.

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Speaker 6: How far along have you gotten in your blurbs? Because

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Speaker 6: about sixteen hours ago when I left you, you were.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I haven't I haven't started the blurb. The blurbs

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Speaker 1: are the easy part. Sorting and figuring out and doing

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Speaker 1: the research is the hard part. But this day, I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't say it's hard, but it's important and because we

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Speaker 1: got a lot to get to it. Around the AFC phrasing,

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Speaker 1: it's a big day. We're gonna hit all sixteen teams

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Speaker 1: in the AFC. We're gonna talk about what they got

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Speaker 1: to do this offseason, big questions, potential cuts, trades, whatever

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Speaker 1: we want to talk about. We're gonna hit your AFC team,

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Speaker 1: and then we're gonna hit the entire NFC team, the

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Speaker 1: entire NFC on Thursday.

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Speaker 4: Show because we have the capacity.

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Speaker 3: Yes we do.

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Speaker 1: That will include the Cardinals, who their head coach, MICHAELA.

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Speaker 1: Flair said Wednesday morning he's looking for two things in coaches.

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Speaker 3: Okay, character good and capacity, A.

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Speaker 5: Like load capacity.

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Speaker 1: I guess you can capacity for what to be able

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Speaker 1: to do a lot of different things.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I mean, so shouldn't that be versatility? I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Were they put on this earth to talk ball?

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Speaker 3: They know they were.

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Speaker 1: They were put on this earth the coach ball in

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Speaker 1: an almost impossible situation, and I wish them well. But

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Speaker 1: we're not hocket Cardinals today. It's around the AFC. We're

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Speaker 1: We did the extra thirty seconds, We're doing a full

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Speaker 1: you if you haven't said your piece by the end

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Speaker 1: another show. And we're gonna start with the Buffalo Bills,

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna start the proceedings, So let's get it going. Look,

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Speaker 1: the Bills are eleven million dollars over the cap, They

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Speaker 1: They might be looking to cut or trade. Dawson Knox,

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Speaker 1: what do you think is the biggest priority or out

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Speaker 5: The team needs help at wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: The team needs talent on defense, because the guy that

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Speaker 2: So yeah, talent on both sides of the ball, but

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Speaker 1: Don't you think this is one of those holes on

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Speaker 1: they're just gonna get receivers. They're gonna listen and open

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Speaker 1: that complaint box and they're gonna satisfy. And that always

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Speaker 1: It's like the Bengals this year, it's like we're just

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Speaker 3: It's a time to reset under Joe Brady.

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Speaker 6: Well, they I would imagine a lot of those guys

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Speaker 6: because even though Joe Brady has been there with the

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Speaker 6: mentioned in his press conference, I'm looking forward to getting

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Speaker 6: lot of you know, at a lot of different positions

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Speaker 6: and drafting to get younger on that side of the ball.

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Speaker 6: And also because he's an offensive minded head coach and

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Speaker 6: they could not have beaten us over the head with

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Speaker 6: it any clearer. This regime is all about maximizing, Josh Allen.

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Speaker 6: It wouldn't be surprising to me if they go super

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Speaker 3: I think that's a great point.

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Speaker 1: I think the defense is going to have a reimagining,

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Speaker 1: and I think to Joe Brady's a quietly nice job

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Speaker 1: Jim Leonard an exciting young defensive coordinator who a lot

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Speaker 5: Me the most.

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Speaker 2: The problem with with caddies yes at positions is guys

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Speaker 4: All right, decently became important at my job or.

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Speaker 3: Stay of my life Miami Dolphins. Patrick, you're up.

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Speaker 2: So I understand that the new GM was a longtime packer.

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Speaker 2: Green Bay. Five hundred thousand plus owners are not Steven Ross,

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Speaker 2: and so there are going to be some things that

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Speaker 2: And so I understand free agency has been Hey, let's

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Speaker 2: signing this, and there's still going to be I believe players.

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Speaker 2: But in terms of acquiring talent, I think Caleb Downs i'

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Speaker 2: we want, I don't want Malik Willis to go down

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Speaker 1: Mike Florio, my old boss, throughout the idea that could

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Speaker 1: Miami take the entire ninety nine million dollar dead cap

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Speaker 1: hit for twa tongue of Iloa this year and just

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Speaker 6: The two players to me, I guess three because I

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Speaker 6: wouldn't want them to part with Jayalen Wattle either. But

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Speaker 6: like the two players to me that absolutely are must

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Speaker 6: Chant Devon A Chano, I can never say his last

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Speaker 6: name correctly the first time, and everything else is a rebuild.

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Speaker 6: And when you float out and when my Florio floats

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Speaker 6: out that ninety nine mil, I think that is so possible.

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Speaker 1: I just wonder, like literally how they could do it.

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Speaker 1: Cap wise, when I'm looking at the cap pit, you

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Speaker 3: Very difficult.

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Speaker 6: And then you have either guys that you're two years

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Speaker 3: All right, you're up with the Adolph the Patriots.

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Speaker 3: No, they don't.

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Speaker 1: They have the almost their whole offense returning if they want,

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Speaker 1: The moment where I really lost, like all simplets of

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Speaker 1: The hope, I guess would be that they have sixty

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Speaker 1: They're going to cut justin fields. They need everything, including

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Speaker 1: I do worry that Mujie and Glenn know they don't

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Speaker 3: It is. It is a tough situation right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're one year in, two years and three years

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Speaker 1: At least Robert Sala had a defense, like had something

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we find that hope in the offensive line.

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Speaker 4: Right, they have so many picks, you gotta think that's

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Speaker 3: Good point.

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Speaker 6: They have so many draft picks because of the Sauce

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Speaker 4: There's the issue, but what will they do with them?

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Speaker 6: So it's like all of us are watching like Trinidad,

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Speaker 6: Trinidad Chambliss in court fighting for his you know, his

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Speaker 6: future to stay in college just one more year. Please

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Speaker 6: don't send me to the New York Jets kind of situation.

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Speaker 6: But I would expect them to try to make a

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Speaker 6: we'll get to that in a minute. But somewhere across

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Speaker 1: I think they'll wait on on a QB. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I would almost feel better if they sign a lot

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Speaker 1: focus on the draft. They even get more picks, they

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Speaker 3: Picks, get all the young players. Just go on a

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Speaker 6: You're you're operating on the assumption that anyone has had

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Speaker 2: Really good point, yeah, point you made the point they

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Speaker 5: Right. It sucks.

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Speaker 1: We're into the AFC North, a division that disappointed frankly

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Speaker 3: I'll say, let's start with your team, the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so the Baltimore Ravens. Obviously, Jesse Minner comes in.

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Speaker 2: Declan Doyle probably the person most people want to think about,

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Speaker 2: why would you have people do that? But pat Ricard

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Speaker 5: I think what likely could walk Isaiah?

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Speaker 5: Yes, you let him walk.

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Speaker 2: You utilize the franchises all time leading scorer at tight end,

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Speaker 2: Tyler Huntley is back this idea that there's another backup

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Speaker 5: That was a lie and a myth, and we you know,

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Speaker 1: Snoop is a free agent, though you got to resign.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you should. You should bring him back. Gilman I

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Speaker 5: But they need to be able to.

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Speaker 2: Call some problems on the interior of the defensive line,

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Speaker 2: because I think the issues at edge kind of overshadowed that.

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Speaker 6: Then I think that, oh that would be I like

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 1: And my question with them is is bigger picture, Like, Look,

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Speaker 6: Similar conversation to the Bills, though, I think maximizing Lamar

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Speaker 6: tight ends if they keep Isaiah likely as well the Cohler.

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Speaker 1: You can bring Cohler back, who's good. Ali wants him

443
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Speaker 1: on the top one one. All right, you're up with the.

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Speaker 4: Browns hot damn.

445
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Speaker 3: I know that was the other one other than the Jets.

446
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Speaker 6: That was just like the Cleveland Browns once again prove

447
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Speaker 6: they are a beacon of football process and team cohesion.

448
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Speaker 6: Throughout a coaching search in which multiple candidates dropped out,

449
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Speaker 6: they lost one of the best DC's in the NFL

450
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Speaker 6: because he actually wanted the job, but they passed on him,

451
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Speaker 6: and reports leaked about asking other candidates to complete personality

452
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Speaker 6: assessments and written assignments for the head coaching job. So

453
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Speaker 6: while there is fun potential with Todd Monkin, the guy

454
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Speaker 6: who they eventually hired, several elements of this offense as well,

455
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Speaker 6: including Quinchown Judkins and Harold fannin junior, and they need

456
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Speaker 6: to go draft a receiver with a high pick. None

457
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Speaker 6: of it will matter if they don't answer the quarterback question.

458
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Speaker 6: And guys, there's a big quarterback question because Shadur Sanders

459
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Speaker 6: is penciled in right now as the as the starter,

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Speaker 6: especially after finishing out last season.

461
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Speaker 4: He'll enter his second season.

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Speaker 6: And meanwhile, the Deshaun Watson media machine is starting to

463
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Speaker 6: quietly put some stuff out there about his preparation to

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Speaker 6: return and possibly play in twenty twenty six. Sounds like

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Speaker 6: it was discussed with candidates for that job as well.

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Speaker 4: Curious about you guys thoughts on that one. Just cook

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Speaker 4: go for it, Greg.

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Speaker 3: I would say I'd believe it when I see it.

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Speaker 1: But it is the Browns and they have been stubborn

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Speaker 1: with Deshaun Watson, and if they can try to find

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Speaker 1: any way to extract a little bit of value out

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Speaker 1: of this disaster, maybe it would know, nothing would surprise

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Speaker 1: me anymore.

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Speaker 3: It's just great. It just doesn't see.

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Speaker 1: I think the reason is basically it's so painful financially

476
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Speaker 1: to get rid of them anyways, you're just like, why bother.

477
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Speaker 1: But it's another year where you're just kicking things down

478
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Speaker 1: down the road. I would make the argument as of

479
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Speaker 1: mid February, this is one of the worst off season

480
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Speaker 1: offenses in the last twenty years because they literally don't

481
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Speaker 1: have an offensive line somehow.

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Speaker 4: And they have seven pointed out And I'm glad you're

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Speaker 4: bringing this up.

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Speaker 1: We've said it on the show all season long that

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Speaker 1: they don't have an offensive life seventy eight million dollars

486
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Speaker 1: in dead money that hasn't even hit yet because they

487
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Speaker 1: haven't made the cuts. Their number one receiver is Jerry Judy,

488
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Speaker 1: who was kind of a disaster. Quin Shod Junkins was great,

489
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Speaker 1: but he's coming off a very serious injury and so

490
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Speaker 1: is not going to be ready for a long time.

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Speaker 1: And sud Here is the quarterback like and David and Joku,

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Speaker 1: for what it's worth, is a free agent.

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Speaker 3: That's that's a tough one.

494
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Speaker 1: But they do have the Mike Rutenberg Bible to study

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Speaker 1: every night.

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Speaker 4: I actually understood that reference.

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Speaker 6: The interesting part about this is that the defensive side

498
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Speaker 6: of the ball obviously is very good, and they drafted

499
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Speaker 6: well there as well. Carson Schweessinger was a great acquisition

500
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Speaker 6: by them. But again, you're overhauling your entire system again

501
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Speaker 6: because you let Jim Schwartz walk out of the building.

502
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Speaker 6: So this is it's it's new everywhere, and if it's

503
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Speaker 6: going to be this new in every phase, you definitely

504
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Speaker 6: don't want to have questions at quarterback and you don't

505
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Speaker 6: want to have your entire offensive line contractually expiring.

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Speaker 4: At the start of the new league year.

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Speaker 2: Like what like I think you could take tiny bites

508
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Speaker 2: at the problem, like extending Delpit. I know, it's a

509
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Speaker 2: couple of years away from a Denzel Award, maybe one

510
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Speaker 2: year away from an award extension. You could do award extension.

511
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Speaker 2: I know, like you're you know, Peter and Paul's relationship

512
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Speaker 2: is going to be altered a little bit there.

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Speaker 5: But you know, you gotta choose one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I it's eight, but hey, Andrew Berry's got this.

515
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Speaker 1: If anyone can pull this off, the fact that they

516
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Speaker 1: have all these void years in these players that aren't

517
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Speaker 1: going to be there, I think is kind of a fiasco.

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Speaker 1: Let's see, Joel Bottonio might retire when.

519
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Speaker 4: You are fired. The most dead money in league history.

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Speaker 6: You might as well acquire more dead money the avoid years,

521
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Speaker 6: right if you can.

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Speaker 4: Why not?

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Speaker 5: Real cost is logical, fels.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, credit to Jimmy has them.

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Speaker 1: He does spend the actual cash that many other teams don't,

526
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Speaker 1: and it hasn't been well spent. The Bengals are kind

527
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Speaker 1: of on the other side of that. Every year, every

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Speaker 1: offseason has a theme for the Bengals. Remember last year

529
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Speaker 1: was like, we're going to start fast. That's all they

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Speaker 1: cared about. That's all they talked about. We're going to

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Speaker 1: start fast. Then they had injuries, it didn't really happen.

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Speaker 1: I think that the theme this year is just going

533
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Speaker 1: to be defense again, but especially pass rushers. Been some

534
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Speaker 1: buzz of like they're going to be going after some

535
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Speaker 1: of the young pass rushers on the market.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they would have.

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Speaker 1: Had less of a pass rush issue if they had

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Speaker 1: given Trey Hendrickson a long term contract. Then again, Trey

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Speaker 1: Henderson play much football for them last year. They have

540
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Speaker 1: fifty three million dollars in cap space, and yeah, all

541
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Speaker 1: their needs are really on defense and the interior of

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Speaker 1: their offensive line. That not a lot of logical cuts,

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Speaker 1: and so that's good. They are a good combination of

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Speaker 1: cap space, ton of it and not a ton of

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Speaker 1: meaningful free agents. After Trey Hendrickson, Joseph Assai might get

546
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Speaker 1: some money out there. Cam Taylor britt Well, someone will

547
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Speaker 1: give a shot to, but he wasn't playing much.

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Speaker 3: And so.

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Speaker 1: Like Duke Duke Tobin and and they they decided to

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Speaker 1: believe in this group Zach Taylor, Duke Tobin for another

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Speaker 1: off sne do you think maybe they'll get a little

552
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Speaker 1: more like win now ish than they've been in recent years.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if the win now aspects has been

554
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Speaker 2: the issue. Yeah, that's I think they honestly believe they

555
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Speaker 2: had an opportunity to win now with what was available

556
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Speaker 2: and that Al Golden was going to bring what it

557
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Speaker 2: needed to lead a young defense to be just enough.

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Speaker 2: That was just clearly not just enough. It was a

559
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Speaker 2: negative in that capacity. And yeah, there's players available they

560
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Speaker 2: can sign in free agency. Are they going to do it?

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Speaker 1: They have, and they've gotten a lot of grief for

562
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Speaker 1: not spending, but they've spent fairly normal and they just

563
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Speaker 1: recent their own guys. They tend to go for the

564
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Speaker 1: guys who go for like two for twenty in free agency,

565
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Speaker 1: like whatever Joseph Asai is going to get somewhere else.

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Speaker 1: Those are the types of guys that they might go after.

567
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Speaker 1: So maybe not the top of the market, but maybe

568
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Speaker 1: an aj Apanessa or an Arnold Ebachetti at ed rush

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Speaker 1: that can give them in the playoffs though, yeah, stuff

570
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Speaker 1: like that.

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Speaker 6: The problem that they had was they overestimated how low

572
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Speaker 6: the floor or underestimated how low the floor could be

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Speaker 6: for this defense.

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Speaker 4: Because a great offense, especially.

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Speaker 6: In the NFC where everybody's trying to just load up

576
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Speaker 6: in an offensive arms race essentially right now, especially with

577
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Speaker 6: the Chiefs down, like, you just need a stable floor

578
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Speaker 6: for your defense, and you have to know what that

579
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Speaker 6: floor is. And they clearly had no actual clue what

580
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Speaker 6: that floor the depths of despair to which it could

581
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Speaker 6: sink the rest of this team.

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Speaker 1: Question for you guys, do you think we'll get some

583
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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow trade SPECULA yes, next two weeks.

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Speaker 4: I will be driving most of it.

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Speaker 3: Really, I know.

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Speaker 6: I I'd love to see it. I mean, you're this

587
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Speaker 6: is the regular season. Why wouldn't you love to see it.

588
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: I always want a semblance of reality to it, and

589
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: could other teams put it out there that they could

590
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Speaker 1: give like all the picks for Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it seems unrealistic to me.

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Speaker 6: The reason why I think that it might be unrealistic.

593
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Speaker 6: But the reason the noise you asked about noise specifically,

594
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Speaker 6: the reason the noise will continue is because it's already started.

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Speaker 6: There's been reports surfacing about like Miami trying to trade

596
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Speaker 6: for him is like, oh, we're going to turn down

597
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Speaker 6: four first round picks.

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Speaker 4: Like sorry, I think they would. There's already been stuff.

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Speaker 1: I think the Bengals are the rare team that you

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Speaker 1: would be like, I'll give you five first round picks

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Speaker 1: and four second round picks.

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Speaker 3: They'd be like neat Orna.

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Speaker 6: The Bengals were the ones that sneaked that report. They're

604
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Speaker 6: telling you exactly what their price is. It's all that

605
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Speaker 6: plus something else.

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Speaker 1: I think it would be next year if it ever happened,

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Speaker 1: it'd have to be like another.

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Speaker 2: I do think there are multiple teams that need quarterbacks

609
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Speaker 2: if it'd like to have Joe Burrow play for their football.

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Speaker 1: I agree with that, and I think the Pittsburgh Steelers

611
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Speaker 1: would be one of them.

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Speaker 5: You're up, Patrick, Yes, the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 2: The first thing they could do this offseason go ahead

614
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Speaker 2: and announce that Aaron Rodgers is going to play one

615
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Speaker 2: more season.

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Speaker 5: Most of us do not care, but a lot of people.

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Speaker 2: I think they would solve some organizational issues if you

618
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Speaker 2: go ahead and get that out of the way. Him

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Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy one last day, which means MVS who is

620
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Speaker 2: a free agent, will be coming back and we can

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Speaker 2: have you know, Green bay less self.

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Speaker 1: I don't want him to come back, but I guess

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Speaker 1: I would feel like go disingenuous to say I do

624
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Speaker 1: not care, because we'll cover it here on the show.

625
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I care as much about Kyle van Noy's location. Okay, right,

626
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 2: we do care.

627
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a little I don't want to stop

628
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Speaker 1: you here.

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Speaker 5: Back.

630
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Speaker 1: I did have this lesson for Walker, and I'm sure

631
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Speaker 1: it was extremely annoying. I've now come to the realization

632
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Speaker 1: the number one way that you can show that you

633
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: care is to say I do not care. You always care.

634
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: If you say I do not care. If you didn't care,

635
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Speaker 1: you just wouldn't say anything that. If anything, it's sort

636
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Speaker 1: of showing a little bit of a weakness.

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Speaker 2: In terms of the impact that I believe it will

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Speaker 2: have on the twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: Six Yes, no, I don't mean you in this case.

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Speaker 2: I do not think that Aaron Rodgers will have a

641
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 2: significant impact on the outcome of the twenty twenty six

642
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 2: NFL regulars.

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Speaker 1: He did it, He brought him pack around. Sorry for

644
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: killing the Steelers segment.

645
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Speaker 3: I just love that.

646
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 6: Every time it cuts to her one shot of a

647
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 6: one shot of Patrick, all we just see.

648
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Speaker 4: Is the word Larry.

649
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Speaker 1: Yes, Patrick is wearing a T shirt called Larry the

650
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Speaker 1: brain Frog. Maybe we'll give the Steelers a little more time.

651
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Speaker 1: Go ahead, Patrick, Sorry for ruining No, what was gonna

652
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Speaker 1: be an electric No, we can.

653
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Speaker 5: We can make it more about Greg.

654
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Speaker 2: We could extend a couple of players who were very

655
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Speaker 2: close to Greg's heart. Kyle Darker, the former Patriot and

656
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: team MVP, which Greg likes to say derisively. Kenneth Gamewell

657
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 2: because of like a two season long beef with regards.

658
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Speaker 1: I love Kenneth Gainwell, it's derisive to the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: I love this. I need more of it. This is

660
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Speaker 3: my love lingth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think Jabrill Peppers if I could say

662
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Speaker 2: that needs to come back as well. The rest of

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Speaker 2: the free agency not to you know, diminish the impacts

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Speaker 2: of Andrews Pete or Isaac Samalo.

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Speaker 1: So say you, Malo is that guy where I sent

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Speaker 1: this list out and everyone's like, oh, yeah, he's gonna

667
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Speaker 1: get a ton of money. I was like, okay, I

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Speaker 1: didn't know that. It's interesting. James Pierre played kind of

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Speaker 1: well for them. They might maybe I think they're going

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Speaker 1: to cut Jalen Ramsey. I think he'll be in addition

671
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Speaker 1: to my top one on one if you're just looking

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Speaker 1: for possible transactions.

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Speaker 2: But also a shout out to Mike at Ford team

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Speaker 2: Gear who okay, Fantasy Live and made a T shirt

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Speaker 2: h celebrating Larry the brain Frog and send it to us.

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Speaker 5: We appreciate you, Mike.

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Speaker 1: And that was because you had you tried to say

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Speaker 1: the word brain fog, yes, coming off COVID or just

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Speaker 1: a sickness.

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Speaker 2: No, yeah, it was it was some anesthesia the day

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Speaker 2: and I tried. I tried to say brain fog and

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Speaker 2: I said brain frog. And it's like the tweet about

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Speaker 2: the grink, Uh, you know, the question was the grink there?

684
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Speaker 2: How was it it became a thing and a character

685
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Speaker 2: on our show.

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Speaker 4: Greg already forgot the stories.

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Speaker 3: I remember, I you know, we're live on the show.

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Speaker 6: Like to see Pittsburgh get a two, like a really

689
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Speaker 6: solid two receiver. Yes, I think that would just take

690
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Speaker 6: their offense from very mediocre to having the layers that

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Speaker 6: it needs to have.

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Speaker 1: My media warm take is this team is not that

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Speaker 1: far away, and actually I kind of get the vision

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Speaker 1: of not like rebuilding if nothing else. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if Mike McCarthy was a good choice, but I think

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Speaker 1: that they can win this year, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Like they have a good offensive line and a good

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Speaker 1: defensive line.

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Speaker 3: That's a that's a great place to start.

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Speaker 1: Also, I did want to point out that we're taking

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Speaker 1: the little extra time here with the Steelers. One thing

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Speaker 1: I really loved in San Francisco, Santa Clara and then

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Speaker 1: on social media throughout the end of the season as

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Speaker 1: we kind of were celebrating Okay it's over, is a

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Speaker 1: lot of people.

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Speaker 3: Telling me what they really loved about this season.

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Speaker 1: We're the co hosts popping up I mean and elevating,

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Speaker 1: and you have your Jordan fans.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people told he's my favorite.

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Speaker 4: Why didn't you tell me that I'm going to this is.

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Speaker 1: Because you got to save it for the show, you know,

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Speaker 1: where it can be maximized.

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Speaker 3: I'm just kidding it just it came up.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 3: I haven't seen you since the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: I saw you yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Other than that, that's brief. And a lot of people

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Speaker 1: I heard a lot of like, oh, Patrick's my favorite,

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Speaker 1: and I passed one along from a notable media member.

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Speaker 1: But I got a few of these two. It's like

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Speaker 1: it was a big year for Patrick. Yes, elevating too,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of big time shook fans, and so

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Speaker 1: it was like different people have different favorites, but I

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Speaker 1: think everyone really liked like the consistency and how you

726
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Speaker 1: guys are on the show so much and it's our

727
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Speaker 1: show together and that feels amazing. So nothing made me

728
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Speaker 1: feel better at the end of the season than hear

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Speaker 1: and from from the clay Mates.

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Speaker 3: And we got to think of the rod you know.

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Speaker 5: Squad regions.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the rim Rods. I don't know what's going on.

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Speaker 4: No, no, let's.

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Speaker 1: Take a break. We'll be back with AFC South. Apologies

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Speaker 1: to the Steelers fans, not big, but it's important. Back

736
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Speaker 1: on NFL Daily, and we are ready to throw it

737
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Speaker 1: to the leader of the Rod Squad, Jordan Rodrigue, and.

738
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Speaker 3: A team that became near and dear to her heart,

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Speaker 3: Houston Texans.

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Speaker 6: I beloved Houston Texans. To open this portion of the show,

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Speaker 6: I would like to read aloud to you a post

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Speaker 6: on social media this week by the legendary and now

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Speaker 6: retired Houston Chronicle columnist John McLain.

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Speaker 4: If CJ.

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Speaker 6: Stroud is traded, I'll walk naked down Kirby Drive at

746
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Speaker 6: rush hour? Is anyone else willing to do it if

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Speaker 6: he's not traded?

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Speaker 4: Didn't think so.

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Speaker 6: Basically John McClain telling all of us that any discussion

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Speaker 6: about c. J. Stroud potentially being on the trade block

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Speaker 6: this off season is ridiculous. And by the way, this

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Speaker 6: man actually ate a new news paper after he had

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Speaker 6: previously said I forget what the scenario was, but he

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Speaker 6: was wrong about said scenarios and you'd eat a news

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Speaker 6: not a good track record. He basically he's true to

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Speaker 6: his words, so personally, you know this is not happening, obviously,

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Speaker 6: but also.

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Speaker 1: Todd McShay specifically is the one he's responding to, so

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Speaker 1: I think that's.

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Speaker 4: Important yeah, I was not clear on where that even.

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Speaker 1: Todd mcshaet mcbeef No, but Todd McShay said on his

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Speaker 1: podcast that Stroud could be a trade candidate and so

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Speaker 1: that that if you know when the local news is

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Speaker 1: looking for some stuff, then it's that project job.

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Speaker 6: By me, because I did not even know where that

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Speaker 6: conversation even came from. In all seriousness, though, Houston does

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Speaker 6: have straightforward answers to like this offseason test that they're

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Speaker 6: going to be now facing. They need to keep improving

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Speaker 6: the offensive line, obviously developing the offensive scheme, part and

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Speaker 6: parcel with each other, and the young skill guys around

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Speaker 6: Nico Collins. And they absolutely love Woody Marks the running

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Speaker 6: back who really blossomed through the second half of the season,

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Speaker 6: but they need to keep adding at running back. Joe

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Speaker 6: Mixon could actually be a cap cut for this team.

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Speaker 4: The plan for.

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Speaker 6: Houston is really obvious and simple to me. They can

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Speaker 6: keep the plan simple because they mostly have really, really

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Speaker 6: really good players, especially on defense, and to maximize this

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Speaker 6: defense while it is still intact. They got a couple

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Speaker 6: of pending free agents on the interior defensive line who

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Speaker 6: I think they will make a priority to re sign.

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Speaker 6: But the floor of the offense just has to be higher.

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Speaker 6: They were a twelve and five team last season in

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Speaker 6: the regular season that lost four of its five losses

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Speaker 6: by just one touchdown or less, and in those four

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Speaker 6: games held their opponents under twenty points.

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Speaker 3: Not much cap room.

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Speaker 1: You get Tank Dell back potentially from that devastating injury,

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Speaker 1: so that's like adding a player. But free agents at

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Speaker 1: Ingram actually, I think is going to get a lot

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Speaker 1: of money, which sounds crazy in free agency. Probably not

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Speaker 1: from the Texans. You mentioned Sheldon Rankins was, Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: was variety.

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Speaker 4: They probably want to They want to bring back Settle too,

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Speaker 4: but Christian.

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Speaker 1: Another guy who made himself some money, and it's tricky.

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Speaker 1: I don't think c. J. Stroud is going to get traded.

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Speaker 1: I you know, the theater of John mc McLain walking

799
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Speaker 1: down the street naked would be would be something.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't just the people's reaction or you want to.

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Speaker 1: Actually no, I don't want to see it, but just

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Speaker 1: the fact that if it happened, I'm sure they would

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Speaker 1: blur it out like on the I don't know news

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Speaker 1: when they put it on the news, because that would

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Speaker 1: make the news.

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Speaker 4: It would make the news that would make I think so.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's like the most famous journalist in Houston

808
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Speaker 1: potentially for sports, walking down the street naked because CJ.

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Speaker 3: Stroud got traded.

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Speaker 4: The stakes are high.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a loophole where you could like create

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Speaker 2: a structure where he's still walking down the street naked,

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Speaker 2: but he's not necessarily visible.

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Speaker 6: I just think it's it's such a like there the

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Speaker 6: vision for what this team is is so clear and

816
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 6: it's so straightforward, like what needs to happen for them

817
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Speaker 6: to take the next step and inclusive to the quarterback

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Speaker 6: has to play better football because he absolutely lost it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was one disastrous game.

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Speaker 1: That said, when I when I heard the trade thing,

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Speaker 1: I was like, it wouldn't be the most shocking transaction

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Speaker 1: I've ever seen. If you did hear some whispers about that,

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Speaker 1: I don't know or if that they thought about that.

824
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Speaker 1: I just there's something, there's something there. It'd be really dumb, though,

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Speaker 1: And I don't think this would be the year that

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Speaker 1: would that would happen.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know that.

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Speaker 5: This is my guess. I think I think there are

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Speaker 5: some teams that need quarterback that would.

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Speaker 1: Like he would have a great market. Would they would

831
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Speaker 1: they think about it?

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Speaker 6: If it is gonna happen, it would not happen what

833
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Speaker 6: two years before they have to pay him, right, it

834
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Speaker 6: would happen the year before they have.

835
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Speaker 3: To pay They can pick up his fifth year option.

836
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Speaker 5: This year.

837
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Speaker 1: We got the Colts up next with me. It's a

838
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Speaker 1: really tricky line for the Colts. It's just a big

839
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Speaker 1: question to me, how do they balance a very win

840
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Speaker 1: now roster, a very win now year for Chris Ballard

841
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Speaker 1: and Shane Ssyke and getting another chance when their owner

842
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Speaker 1: says very explicitly like Okay, we'll give him one more chance,

843
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: to think that the bar is extremely high. They have

844
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Speaker 1: thirty five million dollars in cap space, with the fact

845
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Speaker 1: that their quarterback, who's been very up and down throughout

846
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Speaker 1: his career, is unsigned. Would take forty seven million dollars

847
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Speaker 1: in cap space to franchise tag and most importantly is

848
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: coming off of torn achilles and might not play for

849
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Speaker 1: much of the season or be good when he does play.

850
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Speaker 1: I don't think you can assume, on top of just

851
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: all the key players that have uncertain futures, Alec Pierce

852
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 1: Nick Cross at safety is great for them.

853
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Speaker 3: Quit he pay.

854
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Speaker 1: I think is going to get money, not from the Colts.

855
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: Brayden Smith was the right tackle for years. He's considering retirement.

856
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: He's also a free agent. Jermaine Pratt who played a

857
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: lot for them as a free agent. Could they trade

858
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 1: Michael Pittman? Is the Forrest Buckner going to play again?

859
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,280
Speaker 1: Is Charvarius ward Ever going to play again? Is Grover

860
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: Stewart going to be on this team?

861
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Speaker 5: Like?

862
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: There's just there's a lot going on, and it actually

863
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Speaker 1: I think makes the case to have kept Ballard because

864
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: of the familiarity and like knowing this roster. But it's

865
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: a very tricky line I think to walk here about

866
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: like they got to win, but they are high on

867
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: the list of I don't know what the hell is

868
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: going to happen with this team this offseason, and they're

869
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: going to be extremely active, not by choice because of

870
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: all these questions.

871
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 5: Which is why I think they should be a player

872
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 5: in the Molik willis sort.

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Speaker 1: Of right, right, That's what I mean, Like that sort

874
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: of outcome wouldn't totally shock me because it kind of

875
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: makes some sense.

876
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Speaker 6: Riley Leonard also wasn't bad guys. I was assigned to

877
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,720
Speaker 6: the Riley Leonard games this year too, like he really

878
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,919
Speaker 6: wasn't bad, like as a bridge for the first part

879
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 6: of the season.

880
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 3: I think basically, would you be okay?

881
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 1: Was he good enough that you'd be okay him starting

882
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: your whole season?

883
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 3: Because I think you have to that's.

884
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 4: Not a scept that But that's not the parameter here.

885
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 3: Right, But I think you have to accept that as

886
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 3: a possibility.

887
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 6: But you you only have to accept that as a

888
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 6: possibility if you if you're going to owe him on

889
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 6: it and you're not. He's on his pricky deal like that.

890
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 6: Really you can't. I don't think you can frame it

891
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 6: in that parameter because that parameter is.

892
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 1: Not I guess it depends who else other than Daniel Jones.

893
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: If you bring back Daniel Jones, would you would you

894
00:39:59,480 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: have with them?

895
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 2: I think a team has already been in the circumstance

896
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 2: where Dimes is coming off an injury and they have

897
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 2: a choice between an explosive player or bringing back Dimes.

898
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 2: And it was sakuon the last time. It's Alec Pierce

899
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 2: this time. Just go ahead and extend Piers.

900
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I said, And I know I'm.

901
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 5: Biased because it's one of my favorite players.

902
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 2: But like instead of doing all the capture cannery and

903
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 2: the idea that he may walk and then tagging him

904
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 2: and just go ahead and extend him.

905
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 6: Now, hey, someone known, you pay a known entity, and

906
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 6: the known entity is he's going to make your offense

907
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 6: more productive when he's on the field.

908
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 4: The unknown entities are the injury recovery.

909
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we talked about Michael Pittman as a potential,

910
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: you know, trade candidate if you wanted to pick up

911
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 1: some picks that you've lost. But the defensive stuff really

912
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: worries me a lot more than I think people are

913
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: talking about. Those are some good players, Buckner Cross, Charvarius

914
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: word Quitt, he pay, Like on top of all.

915
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,240
Speaker 3: This Daniel Jones stuff.

916
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: It's a lot going on, a lot going on with

917
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: the Jags this year. They were fun and they're in

918
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: an interesting spot. I'm curious where you go.

919
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 5: Yes, and they have a need at cornerback.

920
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 2: The benefit is they traded up to number three for

921
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 2: a generational player who they can play at cornerback. And

922
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 2: I think you start there. You go ahead and commit

923
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: and you say that he's going to be a cornerback, Yeah,

924
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 2: will play him at wide receiver when they need to,

925
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 2: but they don't have a need at wide receiver. They

926
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 2: have a need at cornerback. So I think Travis Hunter

927
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 2: plays corner. I went into this exercise hoping to defend

928
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 2: Eric Armstead because he played sixty percent of the snaps

929
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 2: and they were a spectacular run defense. They were a

930
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 2: full yard and a half better when Eric Armstead was

931
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 2: not on the field. So if you can find a

932
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 2: trade partner there, you go ahead and do that, maybe

933
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,240
Speaker 2: a cut candidate type situation, and make Devin Lloyd an offer.

934
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 2: At the very least, don't just go into this. I

935
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 2: hope Jim Gladstone doesn't just go into this with the idea, well,

936
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 2: it's going to be too expensive, so let's not just

937
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 2: make Devin Lloyd an offer to try to bring him back.

938
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 2: I know the idea that ETN and him coming back

939
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 2: is maybe you know a lot of hopium in that.

940
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 2: But he earned money last year, the team was great

941
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 2: with him last year, and I think this is a roster,

942
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 2: as constructed in twenty twenty five that can win the

943
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 2: Super Bowl if they are able to get a few

944
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 2: more pieces in certain spots. So yeah, just try try

945
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 2: to bring Devin light back.

946
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: Bill Barnwell brought up Walker Little as a potential trade candidate.

947
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: They can save some money with a few other cuts,

948
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: but they are thirteen million dollars over the cap, so

949
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: they're not a team that has a ton of wiggle

950
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: room and they can make it. They need to help

951
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: their offensive line, They need to help the secondary, especially

952
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 1: as free agents and.

953
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 3: Needs.

954
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: So Travis Hunter fills one spot, but Buster Brown was

955
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: maybe their best cornerback last year and he's a free agent.

956
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: Greg Newsom, who they gave up Tyson Campbell for who struggled,

957
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: is probably leaving the ship, so they're going to be active.

958
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: I think they need help stopping the run, like at

959
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: defensive tackle and everything.

960
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 3: So there's a lot going on here. BTJ could be traded.

961
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's where you could recoup some of your

962
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 6: draft capital, and that's where you could also, you know,

963
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 6: one minute, not factor him in in your roster financial

964
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 6: math moving forward.

965
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 4: I do think that that's a possibility.

966
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 6: One of the things that was interesting all season was

967
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 6: watching them move things around in little shifts across that

968
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 6: entire offense and the combination of just knowing the background

969
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 6: that James Gladstone comes from. And yes, I agree they

970
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 6: should make an offer to Devin Lloyd. I would hope

971
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 6: that James Gladstone learns more from the Earnest Jones situation

972
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 6: than he did from the rest of the Rams maneuverings

973
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 6: at inside linebacker over the years, especially in this day

974
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 6: and age of the league. But at a certain point,

975
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 6: you're just not going to pay a huge amount of

976
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,919
Speaker 6: money to a guy who you came into the fifth

977
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 6: year or came into his final year not even sure

978
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 6: he was going to be on your roster the following year.

979
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 6: Same with running back now just operationally, I can't speak

980
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 6: for the team, but operationally and historically speaking, this is

981
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 6: a GM whose background is weak and go find more

982
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 6: running backs and they love facial.

983
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 3: Tutan They're fine there. I totally agree.

984
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: And I like John Shipley, who covers the Jaguars on SI.

985
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: Had a couple of connections that made sense to me

986
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: just talking about the coaches. Maybe a little Tyler Higbee

987
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: as the backup tight end there I like. And then

988
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: Malcolm Koons, the defensive line coach in Jacksonville. I think

989
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: he'd be a good Bye Low candidate. Was also the

990
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: defensive line coach for Konson in his good season.

991
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 3: Those are just some like.

992
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: Very under the radar, maybe Day three type of free

993
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:30,280
Speaker 1: agent pickups.

994
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: They could facilitate the goodwill between the folks in Nashville

995
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 2: and them. I know there's going to be great communication

996
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 2: and late night text right Armstead with Bob sala as

997
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 2: a show of hey, you know, I could see that

998
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 2: we're friends here in division trade.

999
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 5: I could just.

1000
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: Will you might you might get away with just if

1001
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: you're the Titans. Just all right, you can cut Armstead

1002
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 1: and then we'll sign him. But either way, let's go

1003
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: to that team, the Titans.

1004
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 4: Okay. So I'm gonna be honest with you, guys. I

1005
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 4: have no idea how this is going to go.

1006
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 3: For the tennis, nobody does this year.

1007
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 6: On the one hand, though, it is amazing content so far.

1008
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 6: I mean, look at this glorious bald head energy coming

1009
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 6: out of the Tennessee Titans building right now. Robert sala

1010
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 6: is collecting the follically challenged infinity stones over here in Tennessee,

1011
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 6: and I love to see it.

1012
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: You know a minimum of nine bald coaches on the staff.

1013
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, there's including.

1014
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: All the coordinators Dable Bradley, and then the head coach.

1015
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 3: Yes, Sala and.

1016
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 6: Every single one of them just really I worry about them.

1017
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 3: In the sun, I would say, here's the problem.

1018
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: I don't know the assistant who's in the bottom middle,

1019
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: but he hasn't really gone home yet. He hasn't decided

1020
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: to give up the ghosts. He's got some hair back there,

1021
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 1: so I think he's going to be insulted that the

1022
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: team retweeted this bald.

1023
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 5: Dica picture is probably how he found out.

1024
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, it's time to go home. I do

1025
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 1: find it in dressing that this is the first Mike

1026
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: Borganzi is actually running the show offseason. This changes every

1027
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: Tennessee off season. And they have one hundred and three

1028
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: million dollars in cap space to spend, so they're going

1029
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: to be active.

1030
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 6: And what's interesting is and I think that Robert Salo

1031
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 6: will especially have a say with that front office in

1032
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 6: shaping specifically the defense. I think that he's hired people,

1033
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 6: and I'll get to this a minute, but he's hired

1034
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 6: people who he feels he can be a little bit

1035
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 6: more hands off on in other coordinator spots, but with

1036
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 6: the defense, especially because he's calling it, I think he'll

1037
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 6: want to use a lot of that money in building

1038
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 6: a sort of an identity and keep this defense creditable

1039
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 6: as it was all season despite their win loss record.

1040
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 6: Plus have to get cam Ward some help. Elic I

1041
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 6: o'mannor was great, showed some pop the various points through

1042
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 6: the year. But they need they need every got some

1043
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 6: candidates receiver spot.

1044
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 1: All right, here's just some candids, solid guys. Jonathan Franklin Myers,

1045
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 1: he was good. He's a free agent. Quincy Williams free agent,

1046
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,720
Speaker 1: was a sally one minute. How about some dable guys?

1047
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: Wan Dale ha, I could see that I saw our

1048
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: our old friend. Justin Graver suggests that one would they

1049
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: ever trade for Nick Bosa? Would they ever?

1050
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 3: Jwn Jennings Juan Jennings is one like there are the

1051
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,439
Speaker 3: guys here, guys out there.

1052
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 6: And the thing that I have, dynamically speaking, the curiosity

1053
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 6: I have about the staff especially I will be fascinated

1054
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 6: to dig more into this throughout the season is there's

1055
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 6: it's such a miss miss mish mash.

1056
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 4: Okay I said it right.

1057
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 6: Of huge personalities under Robert sala Like, he hired guys

1058
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 6: who either were head coaches or at one point had

1059
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 6: their hat in the ring to be head coaches at

1060
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 6: every single coordinator position, Brian Dable, Gus Bradley, who is

1061
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,720
Speaker 6: also one of Robert Salah's mentors from from way way back,

1062
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 6: and John Fossil, who is about as high octane a

1063
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 6: special teams coach as it actually gets. So for me,

1064
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,919
Speaker 6: all of these guys, uh, basically joining forces in one

1065
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 6: building is going to be so fascinating to me because

1066
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 6: if it goes well, everybody has their own island in

1067
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 6: a good way. If it goes poorly, everybody has their

1068
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:10,919
Speaker 6: own island in a bad way. In a building where

1069
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 6: there's been a lot of backstabbing in recent years.

1070
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:14,919
Speaker 3: Tons of change coming.

1071
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley, Lagarious Need, Will Levis, Tony Pollard. All could

1072
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: be guys that aren't back free agents. Kevin Zeitler, I

1073
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: think is going to get some money. Chigoconquo is kind

1074
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: of interesting. Couple of the defensive players. I am up

1075
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: with Denver. Okay, Denver. I'll give the Broncos fans the

1076
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,399
Speaker 1: love that they seem to crave from me. Specifically, they're

1077
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 1: always saying, why you hate on the Broncos.

1078
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 3: You've been hating on the Broncos.

1079
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a team that's in a

1080
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: better position entering this offseason than the Broncos because they

1081
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 1: got plenty of cap space, they don't have any bad

1082
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 1: contracts that they need to cut, and they don't have

1083
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: monster needs.

1084
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 3: That's where you want to be in.

1085
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 1: The NFL has a way of humbling you, and you

1086
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: obviously get needs that you didn't realize you have. But

1087
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: to me, it's all of an additive off season. We're

1088
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: in year four of this Peyton and Peyton combo and

1089
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: like they're just adding to positions that are already okay.

1090
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: Obviously you'd want a little more dynamism. I think in

1091
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 1: the skill positions that's probably like the one biggest need.

1092
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: You want both to get healthy. But Jonathan Franklin Meyer

1093
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 1: is Alex Singleton, Justin Strnad are free agents like those

1094
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: are useful players. But overall, man, this is like a

1095
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: go time type of off season and find some If

1096
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: there's a team that should feel okay over paying a

1097
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: little for guys that will be with the team for

1098
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 1: a couple of years because they're available, I think they're

1099
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: in a good position to do that, to go after

1100
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: like find the guys you really want and go just

1101
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: go get them, like whoever you want the most of

1102
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: this offseason, go get them Broncos.

1103
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 3: And I think that go in a Super Bowl.

1104
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 6: That could potentially be at running back because I mean, yeah,

1105
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 6: we sat down with Garrett Bowles and man, he really

1106
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 6: wanted to run the ball more. I mean, other than

1107
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 6: the comments about bo Nicks, and it would have been

1108
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 6: a different story had Bonix been team Yeah, that's I

1109
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 6: mean exactly.

1110
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 4: I think so they could be.

1111
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 6: If Kenneth Walker doesn't get extended, they could be a

1112
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 6: Kenneth Walker team. They could be Ricodoubtl, Javontee. I mean,

1113
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 6: there's a lot of backs who could potentially be fits

1114
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 6: because cham Payton will build around what those players do well,

1115
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:25,280
Speaker 6: and they've got the offensive line truly to be able

1116
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 6: to plug somebody who's maybe not even at the top

1117
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 6: of the market back there, but just somebody more experienced,

1118
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 6: because you know that that's kind of what he's looking

1119
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 6: for as the head coach in his running back at

1120
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 6: this point, especially if they are so close to getting

1121
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 6: past this like Hurdle, I just felt like they thought

1122
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 6: they were a running back away or run game away.

1123
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 6: I want to blame the backs here.

1124
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: It's a great receiver room, but they just need a

1125
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: little they need a little more of a difference maker.

1126
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 5: Well.

1127
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 2: I think ETN helps in the run game and the receiving

1128
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 2: game as well. A team that indexes so heavily on

1129
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 2: the screen where you.

1130
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 4: Know, again Patrick have geeked out over that all year.

1131
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 2: Love obviously would love Travis to stay in Jacksonville, but

1132
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 2: you know, go get it back for a team that

1133
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 2: is contending, if not for you know, twenty two years.

1134
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 6: And I was going to say, do you know now

1135
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 6: that I'm looking at it, you know who I really

1136
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 6: want to see over there is Kenneth Gainwell.

1137
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 1: Why good draft to guy draft a receiver in the

1138
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: first round. Just it's a good receiver draft something something

1139
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: like that.

1140
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 2: But it'll be a year two Pat Bryant, who I

1141
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 2: think it will be a bigger part. Yeah, we had

1142
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 2: an impact as well.

1143
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: I think that Bowls interview will be instructive for us.

1144
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 3: I think this is a.

1145
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 1: Team that loss hurt more I think than any loss

1146
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: for any of the teams this year. Because you lose

1147
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,439
Speaker 1: your quarterback the game before, it's all right in front

1148
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 1: of you. It's pretty unique historically what happened and devastating

1149
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: they got a chance to make it right this year.

1150
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 3: All right, let's go with the Chiefs.

1151
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 5: Patrick, all right, obviously Kelsey back.

1152
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 2: If Travis wants to play, Travis is gonna play, You're

1153
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 2: gonna sign him and pay him.

1154
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:00,439
Speaker 5: Hollywood, I think is gone.

1155
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 2: I think they need cookback because you know you're gonna

1156
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 2: have a corner leaving, another corner leaving.

1157
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 3: Is this is now a Brian Cook the safety Yeah,

1158
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 3: very high in my list.

1159
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 2: Spat tradition and go ahead part ways considering money now

1160
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 2: an issue for the Kansas City Chiefs. The Gardner Minshew

1161
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 2: thing has got to eventually be over. Just go ahead

1162
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 2: and say if your backup option, which I think honestly,

1163
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs should be a player in the

1164
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 2: Kyler circumstance where Mahomes who is the entire team. We've

1165
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 2: We've said this for multiple years. They'd be asking him

1166
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 2: to come back early. And I know he's you know,

1167
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 2: working hard, he's going to try extra hard and everything.

1168
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 2: You know, the universe and the human body can only

1169
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 2: allow so much to the extent that he has needed

1170
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 2: to play. He needs to not play at the start

1171
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 2: of the season so that they can have some hope

1172
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 2: so yeah, that's my overall Kansas City chief thing is

1173
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 2: have Kyler Murray start the first six games, go six

1174
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 2: and zero.

1175
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: If Kyler was smart and well, it's so easy for

1176
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: me to say, but you'd have to just take less

1177
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: money and to rehab your value, Like that'd be so good.

1178
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: I was trying to think, because whoever the Daniel Jones

1179
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: is of twenty twenty six, like that'd be a great

1180
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: pickup for the Chiefs. It shouldn't be minshew. And for

1181
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 1: a second, I was like, I could almost.

1182
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 3: See Andy Reid signing Aaron Rodgers to do the first

1183
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 3: five weeks.

1184
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 4: Oh my god, here's what I think.

1185
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 3: It's too much. I don't try.

1186
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 5: That would make me care because then it wouldn't matter.

1187
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:26,479
Speaker 5: That would not matter.

1188
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 4: So Isaah p Check is a free agent.

1189
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 6: Right between that and also the most important move I

1190
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 6: think the Kansas City Chiefs made this entire calendar year

1191
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 6: was bringing Eric the Enemy back to as offensive coordinator,

1192
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 6: sort of like not so subtly replacing Matt Naggie before

1193
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 6: he had actually left the building, which was one of

1194
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 6: the more I mean, we didn't talk about it that much,

1195
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 6: but it was very much like, oh, it's happening right

1196
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 6: in front of you, right like it's happening as you were.

1197
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 6: The seat is not cold yet. In fact, the seat

1198
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 6: has someone still sitting in it. But I respect it

1199
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 6: because Andy Read kind of went off on the blow

1200
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 6: a little bit there. That's huge because they have to

1201
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 6: reconstruct their run game. Their run game cannot largely run

1202
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 6: through Patrick Mahomes the way that it did at the

1203
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 6: especially at the beginning of this season, and will contribute

1204
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,720
Speaker 6: to his susceptibility to injury in the future.

1205
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: He restructured his contract he being Patrick Mahomes on Wednesday morning.

1206
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: It opens up forty five million dollars in cap space.

1207
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,879
Speaker 1: It is the bank that the Chiefs just go back

1208
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:25,720
Speaker 1: to every year.

1209
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 4: Old quarterback franchise tag.

1210
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: Tom Brady got so much credit for being underpaid and

1211
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 1: quote unquote helping the Patriots, and I always thought it

1212
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 1: was overstated, but there was everything was there was some

1213
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: truth to it. The Patrick Mahomes thing, I don't think

1214
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 1: can be overstated. He is so underpaid and the way

1215
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,399
Speaker 1: his contract is structured that he never changes it helps

1216
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 1: him out a lot. There's still eleven million dollars over

1217
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 1: the cap. They can do it again with Chris Jones,

1218
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: but Rashie Rice is facing domestic violence allegations. I'm not sure.

1219
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 1: Trent McDuffie is a lock to be back on this team.

1220
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 1: Leo Chanell is a good player. He's a free agent.

1221
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: Jalen Watson you mentioned earlier, Brett Viach, Andy Reid.

1222
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 3: They're gonna be making their money. There's just a lot

1223
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 3: going on.

1224
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by the Chiefs because they you know, you

1225
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: ever see those graphics where it was like if this

1226
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: team lost all their one score wins or you flipped

1227
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 1: the one score results, what would their record be? You

1228
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: know who, like the best team in the NFL was

1229
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: last year if you flipped the one score games, it

1230
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 1: was the Kansas City Chiefs. They were not that far

1231
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: away from actually being pretty competitive, if not good, they

1232
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 1: would have been like fourteen and three or something outrageous.

1233
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 3: If you flip their one score games, they just were off.

1234
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 6: I'm not that far away from being a billionaire. You

1235
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 6: just have to flip bank account.

1236
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 3: It's fair.

1237
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 1: It's always a funny exercise, but it's it's interesting. Jordan Chargers,

1238
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: your guy, Mike McDaniel, Yeah, I'm so big.

1239
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,280
Speaker 6: Feature came out, Yes, thank you for citing that, Greg,

1240
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 6: I am so freaking fired up for this. I can't

1241
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 6: wait to see what this looks like. And the entire

1242
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 6: season actually, in my opinion, depends on the offensive line

1243
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 6: getting healthy, maybe in bringing an upgrade in depth. They

1244
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 6: had some big questions when Machi Beckton was healthy, he

1245
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 6: was on and off the field. That just was an

1246
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 6: experiment outside of Stoutland University that didn't quite work out

1247
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 6: the way that they had hoped or envisioned. And in

1248
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 6: a worst case scenario, how will Mike McDaniel scheme around

1249
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 6: if the inevitable curse does strike yet again?

1250
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 4: How will he sort of scheme around this?

1251
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 6: Which is one of the reasons they brought him in

1252
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:27,280
Speaker 6: is because he could be creative should such a scenario

1253
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 6: come upon them. Importantly, on defense minus jesse Minter, I'm

1254
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 6: very curious to see what this is going to look like.

1255
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 6: You have a Jesse minchor disciple, and Chris O'Leary who

1256
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 6: is the new defensive coordinator, and O'dafaeoa and Khalil Mack

1257
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 6: are both free agents. We talked about this earlier this week. Greg,

1258
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 6: you could tag one, but a good team would extend

1259
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 6: and then possibly figure it out with Khalil Mack on

1260
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 6: like a year to year with incentives. If there's one

1261
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 6: thing Khalil Mack's gonna do, it's going to be hit

1262
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 6: those incentives. So I do think trying to bring the

1263
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 6: band back together in terms of that front be really important.

1264
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,760
Speaker 1: They love Max so much that's the most likely outcome.

1265
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 1: But he is talking retirement and they are a sneaky

1266
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 1: team I think for like a Trey Hendrickson type, because

1267
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 1: they have eighty two million dollars in cap space. They

1268
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: they're the best team that has the most cap space,

1269
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: but they do need to find defensive line, offensive line.

1270
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: You mentioned Becton. I think he's getting cut. Zion Johnson

1271
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 1: is going to get a big contract. I tend to

1272
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: think it'll come from the Chargers, but he had his

1273
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 1: best year by far this last year. So if he

1274
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: leaves that he opens up another big hole. So it's

1275
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 1: it's very Unharbaugh like that. I think they're good everywhere

1276
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: except the lines right now, so they need to spend

1277
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: some of that cap space. So that's when I look

1278
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 1: at like big name guys that are available, but it's

1279
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 1: probably their own guys like Zion Johnson in o way, Yeah.

1280
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 2: One minute, and also opportunity for mac to you know,

1281
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 2: finish his career.

1282
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1283
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 2: There, I know the idea because if they if they

1284
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 2: had needed to move on, but we mentioned the space

1285
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 2: and the opportunity he could stay there, which will probably

1286
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 2: disappoint some folks in Chicago the idea of a Khalil

1287
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:09,479
Speaker 2: Mack return there.

1288
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 1: But this year when he talked about it, it felt

1289
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: a little more like, Oh, he actually might retire. That's

1290
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: just my gut feeling. He probably comes back, but he

1291
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: might actually retires.

1292
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 6: Plus, one of the reasons I think that Zion Johnson

1293
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 6: is very likely to get an extension by them is

1294
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 6: a they are smart, a smartly run team at this point,

1295
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 6: and they know they have to keep investing in their

1296
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,479
Speaker 6: offensive line. And he really became one of their better

1297
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 6: players on that unit despite all the chaos around him,

1298
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 6: especially through the back half of the season. And it's

1299
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 6: very very sneaky, went really under the radar, but Mike

1300
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 6: McDaniel went after Butch Berry, his previous offensive line coach

1301
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 6: in Miami and who he's been close with for years

1302
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 6: on these different coaching staffs, including in San Francisco.

1303
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 4: That's a key assistant higher in order to me that forecast.

1304
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 6: Hey reinvesting and continue to invest in the offensive line.

1305
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, they they could be in the mix. There's a

1306
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: sneaky amount of starting offensive linemen available. The idea is

1307
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 1: that they're never available in free agency. But guys like

1308
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: Wyatt Teller who can just still play, like guys like

1309
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 1: David Edwards and connorc Govern from the like Bills, they

1310
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,919
Speaker 1: may not wow you, but they're available, and so maybe

1311
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 1: the Chargers are the team that's going to spend the Raiders.

1312
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 1: We had John spy Tech on the show at the combine,

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Speaker 1: would love to again. I don't know if he's a listener,

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Speaker 1: but this is a big off season for him. It's

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Speaker 1: kind of the big John spy Tech offseason. That's what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, what you got, spy Tech?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 1: Because after the season, everyone like Pete Carroll gets blamed

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Speaker 1: for everything. There was this ESPN article that came out

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Speaker 1: we talked about that almost felt a little unsavory, like

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Speaker 1: kicking dirt on Peek Carroll on the way out. He

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Speaker 1: already won, he got fired. Now it's like, okay, what

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Speaker 1: is the vision now? Because we're blaming the draft on him.

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Speaker 1: Last year, you got ninety one million dollars in cap space,

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Speaker 1: just outrageous, like a Crosby deal, doesn't it makes sense

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Speaker 1: to get draft picks for where they're at as a team.

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Speaker 1: They don't need the money. The last thing they need

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Speaker 1: is more cap space they have. I'm just I'm not

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Speaker 1: kidding the teams that have too much like it's actually,

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Speaker 1: I believe is a little bit of a problem because

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Speaker 1: they don't have anyone to spend it on. They're also

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Speaker 1: going to save money by getting rid of Gino, whether

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Speaker 1: that's a cut, which likely is, or like a late

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Speaker 1: round pick swap if anyone wanted it. And the needs

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Speaker 1: are obvious. It's everything like, there is nothing that they

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Speaker 1: don't need on the roster. They're going to get a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: but they still need another quarterback too, so even that

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Speaker 1: is a need. So I looked, and there's not many

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Speaker 1: great free agents Eric Stokes, Malcolm Koons most of the

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Speaker 1: secondary pretty much have to replace your entire secondary. But

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Speaker 1: it's kind of like, all right, show us what you

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Speaker 1: got spy tech putting him on the hot seat.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I think if if going by the

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Speaker 6: way Tampa Bay had built out their teams.

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Speaker 4: In the past.

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Speaker 6: A member of him being a member of that staff

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Speaker 6: for so long, it was always like, especially up front,

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Speaker 6: draft and develop guys and then sign your own guys

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Speaker 6: to big money extensions. I think the biggest domino in

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Speaker 6: how badly all of this ended up going was the

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Speaker 6: ripple effect of not either trading back for more picks

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Speaker 6: out of that top pick last year, or or you know,

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Speaker 6: and I love Ashton Janty, but drafting a running back

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Speaker 6: that high instead of looking at one minute, you trading

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Speaker 6: back and trying to pick up multiple linemen, whether offensive

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Speaker 6: or defense.

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Speaker 3: But they did, and they didn't never play them until

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Speaker 3: the end of the year. That was weird.

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Speaker 6: And so I think that's where you get in the

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Speaker 6: it's complicated, right, That's when you get into maybe there's

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Speaker 6: a vision in one part of the building and then

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Speaker 6: there's not a vision that same vision and the other

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Speaker 6: part of that building. And his by the way, his

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Speaker 6: son is coaching the offensive line, so has a pretty

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Speaker 6: significant saying who's actually getting on the field, and he's

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Speaker 6: not on the field. So that's where I'm saying, like,

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Speaker 6: I would just like to see a more cohesive plan

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Speaker 6: from what they're saying, and and sort of having fun

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Speaker 6: with the you know, the the mind games.

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Speaker 4: Before the draft last year. I'd like to actually.

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Speaker 6: See an identity match what they are saying they want

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Speaker 6: to be, and that is again draft and develop and

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Speaker 6: build slowly and then retain your good players. That's what

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Speaker 6: they say they want to do. And it's Mendoza season.

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Speaker 5: But there was a significant contrast.

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Speaker 2: Was one of the oldest coaches in the NFL and

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Speaker 2: who would like to win Now?

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Speaker 5: Who's bringing in veterans to try to get something done? Now?

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Speaker 2: He's not trying to develop. He was trying to and

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Speaker 2: so they've they've eliminated that aspect of the vision. And

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Speaker 2: so now if there is a shared vision, as you

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Speaker 2: pointed out, Greg, you want to sign your guys, but

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Speaker 2: there's there's no guys to sign.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so just got to take the.

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Speaker 1: Like and the guys that they signed last year, which

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Speaker 1: you know, for the most part didn't really work out.

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Speaker 1: They're all free agents now too, so you got to

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Speaker 1: start over. You're just starting from scratch. The offensive line

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Speaker 1: has basically been the same for a couple of years,

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Speaker 1: which is good or bad.

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Speaker 3: I'm not really sure. Usually it's good, but it hasn't really.

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Speaker 2: Everything was so chaotic, like, can we even evaluate the

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Speaker 2: young guys on that roster like properly?

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Speaker 5: It was all so bad?

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Speaker 3: No get another.

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Speaker 6: I mean, maybe your hero could share some notes with

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Speaker 6: you about his thoughts on how.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll give you. I'll give you a call.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I thought you meant Larry the brain Frog.

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Speaker 1: No, it was your hero, because we actually have dug

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Speaker 1: up footage of a segment featuring Larry the brain Frog

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Speaker 1: on NFL Network. Look, we were honking for a while,

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Speaker 1: co hitting every single AFC team. Our crack research staff

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Speaker 1: that included Eric Roberts and Chris Babonau found a video.

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Speaker 7: Let's watch because he's got the brain frog.

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Speaker 2: Larry lives in head and he tells a vegetables.

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Speaker 5: But I think that's a brain frog. It's a brain fro.

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Speaker 5: It's a frog that lived in Steve's brain. Here's the

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Speaker 5: thing that one guy.

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Speaker 2: It's not just the term the brain frog is an

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Speaker 2: actual frog that lives inside of the head of Steve

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Speaker 2: from Accounting. And we thought, since Steve is so good

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Speaker 2: at hacking the servers and taking fantasy players, why don't

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Speaker 2: we invite Larry to come on our show. So many

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Speaker 2: Fantasy Live debut it's Larry the brain Frogoy, Larry, it's

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Speaker 2: so bad to.

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Speaker 5: Have you on the show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah we can hear you can.

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Speaker 6: Wow.

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Speaker 5: So that that was that.

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Speaker 4: Was production out off the charts right there.

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Speaker 3: And then you gotta a shirt out of it too.

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Speaker 7: Because he's got the brain frog and we need that

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Speaker 7: as a drop.

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Speaker 3: Now, Larry the brain Frog, can he be part of

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Speaker 3: NFL Daily occasionally?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we'll see if this the puppet. If we

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Speaker 2: have access to the puppet, I can't do it as

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Speaker 2: good of a voice.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Adam Rank and Michael f Learrio always

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Speaker 1: getting it done on NFL Fantasy. We got it done.

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Speaker 1: We talked about the entire AFC. I think we provided

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Speaker 1: context and information and we did it in a fun way.

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Speaker 1: And we're going to do the same with the NFC.

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Speaker 1: And that show is coming up on Thursday.

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Speaker 3: What a big week this is.

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Speaker 4: It's like a slow bill, maybe not big, but important.

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Speaker 5: What important?

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Speaker 1: The rim Rods not doing that AFC today, That's all good.

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Speaker 3: We will be back on Thursday with the NFL. We'll

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Speaker 3: see them