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Speaker 1: Ready to be amazed by the wizard of Weird Strange
Speaker 1: Things with Joshua Warren.
Speaker 3: I am Joshua B. Warren. At Each week on this show,
Speaker 3: I'll be bringing you brandon new mind blowing content, news exercises, and.
Speaker 1: Weird experiments you can do at home, and.
Speaker 3: A lot more. On this special edition of the show,
Speaker 3: I have a new haunted doll and his name is Kennedy.
Speaker 3: I have been wanting to tell you about this for
Speaker 3: a long time. I've been saving it up, and that's
Speaker 3: why I think in part this is a special show.
Speaker 3: Kennedy was given to me by a great friend. And
Speaker 3: soon that friend is going to come on this podcast
Speaker 3: as a surprise guest and tell you the story behind
Speaker 3: this most intriguing doll. But first, I am recording this
Speaker 3: in October, and it is now a tradition for me
Speaker 3: every October to tell you this tale, to set the tone,
Speaker 3: to create the mood, to tell you the story of
Speaker 3: Stingy Jack. Several centuries ago, amongst the green countryside and
Speaker 3: superstitious towns and villages in Ireland, there lived a drunkard
Speaker 3: known as Stingy Jack. Jack was known throughout the land
Speaker 3: as a deceiver, a manipulator, and a dredge on his community.
Speaker 3: On a fateful hallowy night typical of Jack, he was
Speaker 3: drunk and wandering through the countryside in the moonlight when
Speaker 3: he stumbled upon his shadowy.
Speaker 1: Body lying in his path. And to a.
Speaker 3: Surprise, the body, with an eerie grimace on his pale face,
Speaker 3: rose suddenly and the figure said to Stingy Jack, I
Speaker 3: am the devil and I have finally come for you.
Speaker 1: You knew this day would come. What do you want
Speaker 1: with me, exclaimed Jack.
Speaker 3: I'm here to take your soul down to hell, said
Speaker 3: the horrible, grinning figure. Well, Jack seemed to accept his fate,
Speaker 3: but he said to the devil, then please please at
Speaker 3: least give me one last drink of l before I go.
Speaker 1: Well, the devil, always up for a good time, said.
Speaker 3: Well, yes, fine, then let's go to the pub for
Speaker 3: your last ale. Well, the two had a good old time,
Speaker 3: drinking up a storm for hours. Finally the tab came
Speaker 3: to but Jack did not have a penny to his name,
Speaker 3: so he said to the devil, well, you're a great
Speaker 3: and powerful magician. Let's see if you can turn yourself
Speaker 3: into a silver coin, we can give this barkeep. Well,
Speaker 3: the devil was happy to show off and oblige, and
Speaker 3: he transformed himself into a silver coin. Jack quickly stuffed
Speaker 3: the coin into his pocket, where Jack always kept a crucifix,
Speaker 3: and this trapped old satan. You see, his power was
Speaker 3: gone next to a crucifix, and the devil begged Jack
Speaker 3: to let him go free. But Jack said, I know
Speaker 3: my inevitable fate, but I'll only release you if you
Speaker 3: grant me ten more years, just ten more years on
Speaker 3: this earth. The devil had no choice but to agree. Well,
Speaker 3: you think old stingy Jack would have changed his ways,
Speaker 3: but he did not. Some say he got even worse.
Speaker 3: But time flies by, and Halloween night, ten years later,
Speaker 3: Old Jack was wandering the moonlit countryside when once again
Speaker 3: his old friend, the devil, appeared next to a dark tree.
Speaker 3: It's been ten years, growled the devil.
Speaker 1: Now it's time to go, Jack.
Speaker 3: And Jack bowed his head and said, all right, all right,
Speaker 3: I know it's time, but at least give me one
Speaker 3: last morsel of food from this good green earth before.
Speaker 1: I have to go.
Speaker 3: And the devil was actually kind of fond of Jack,
Speaker 3: and he said, oh fine, I'll give you one last
Speaker 3: morsel of food since you won't be getting it anymore forever.
Speaker 3: They were next to an apple tree, and Jack said,
Speaker 3: I can't reach them apples up there, but you're a
Speaker 3: great and powerful spirit. Can you please run up that
Speaker 3: tree and take me down an apple to feed this
Speaker 3: hungry belly? And once again the devil agreed to this request.
Speaker 3: But as the devil climbed up the gnarled branches of
Speaker 3: the tree, clever old stingy, Jack reached in his pockets
Speaker 3: and quickly surrounded the base of the tree with a
Speaker 3: ring of crucifixes. Satan was mad as hell that he
Speaker 3: had been entrapped again and demanded his release, and as before,
Speaker 3: Jack made a demand that his soul never be taken
Speaker 3: by Satan into hades. Satan had no choice but to agree,
Speaker 3: and so the devil was set free. Well the years
Speaker 3: passed by, time always wins. Eventually, the hard drinking took
Speaker 3: its toll on Jack and he died in pain. Jack
Speaker 3: found himself at the gate of Saint Peter in heaven,
Speaker 3: but he was stopped. Saint Peter said, Jack, because of
Speaker 3: your drinking and sinful life of deceit, you shall never
Speaker 3: be allowed in heaven. So Jack was immediately spirited down
Speaker 3: to Hell. But there he saw his old drinking buddy,
Speaker 3: the devil, once again, and Satan said, I have to
Speaker 3: fulfill my promise. Jack, you shall never be admitted here,
Speaker 3: And so Jack was not admitted to heaven or Hell,
Speaker 3: and the Devil, with his eerie, vindictive grin, tossed a
Speaker 3: fiery ember into an old, hollowed out turnip and gave
Speaker 3: it to Jack, and the devil said, you shall miserably
Speaker 3: wander the earth forever, never at rest, always weary, with
Speaker 3: this lantern as a warning to all those fools who
Speaker 3: think they can somehow outsmart God and the Devil. And
Speaker 3: to this day, on some dark, clear nights, especially around Halloween,
Speaker 3: you'll catch a glimpse of old stingy Jack with his lantern,
Speaker 3: drifting about the hills and glens. All he wants now
Speaker 3: is a rest that shall never come. He is doomed
Speaker 3: to this fate for all time. Those who see this
Speaker 3: apparition shudder and rush their children inside. He's old stingy
Speaker 3: Jack with his lantern, where as we call him Jack
Speaker 3: of the Lantern or Jack a Lantern. And that, my friends,
Speaker 3: is the story of the jacka Lantern.
Speaker 5: Ah.
Speaker 3: Yes, I don't know why exactly I love that tale
Speaker 3: so much. I guess because that for me, it seems
Speaker 3: to capture that spirit of the origin of Halloween, back
Speaker 3: of the old world. But now that that piece of
Speaker 3: nostalgia is out of the way, we will begin prepping
Speaker 3: for the main event this show. That is because I
Speaker 3: am very particular these days about accepting physical packages from anybody.
Speaker 3: But I have known this guy for a long time.
Speaker 3: He's been a really good friend, and he has been
Speaker 3: telling me for a long time he was going to
Speaker 3: send me this package. And just recently, I mean weeks ago,
Speaker 3: this large box arrived at my house and when I
Speaker 3: opened it, there was one of the most impressive ventriloquist
Speaker 3: dolls that I have ever seen. And you may or
Speaker 3: may not know this, but technically, I guess professionally they're
Speaker 3: called ventriloical figures, and this was an extremely well made
Speaker 3: doll figure. I don't think it's good to call him
Speaker 3: a dummy, and I mean the craftsmanship was amazing. I
Speaker 3: think that a professional may this particular doll painstakingly, almost
Speaker 3: like Geppetto making Pinocchio. And the origin of this doll
Speaker 3: is it's still sort of up in the air. His
Speaker 3: name is Kennedy. Now why is that? Well, I'm going
Speaker 3: to ask that question in a moment, because when we
Speaker 3: come back from the break, my special guest, the man
Speaker 3: who sent this doll to me, is going to tell
Speaker 3: us all in his own words about how he obtained
Speaker 3: this and why that this doll is haunted. And then
Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you what I have been doing
Speaker 3: to study this doll since the doll has been in
Speaker 3: my possession. And as if that weren't enough. After we
Speaker 3: talk about all that, then I just last night went
Speaker 3: on a paranormal investigation at one of the most haunted
Speaker 3: properties at all of Las Vegas. I'm going to tell
Speaker 3: you the story about that place as well. Oh my goodness,
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Speaker 3: am Joshua P. Warren, and you are listening to Range
Speaker 3: Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal
Speaker 3: podcast Network, and I will be right back. Welcome back
Speaker 3: to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast
Speaker 3: a M paranormal podcast Network. I am your host, the
Speaker 3: Wizard of Weird, Joshua P. Warren, beaming into your wormhole
Speaker 3: brain from my studio in Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada,
Speaker 3: where every is golden end, every night is silver Uh
Speaker 3: getato zoome. And if you have any experience doing paranormal investigation,
Speaker 3: you probably know that one of the biggest challenges you
Speaker 3: face is this phenomenon of genuine paranormal activity causing your
Speaker 3: equipment to malfunction. And that is a big, big problem
Speaker 3: when you're trying to document something, especially something rare. So
Speaker 3: I'm talking about your camera stops working, your your microphone
Speaker 3: stops working, your your batteries fail. I mean, it's just
Speaker 3: a well known phenomenon. And people who are you know,
Speaker 3: debunkers and cynics, they say, oh, isn't that convenient, Well,
Speaker 3: I know it seems that way, but I mean that
Speaker 3: also is very much a part of you know, what
Speaker 3: happens when these these bizarre energies are are manifesting in
Speaker 3: the environment. Well, well, therefore, it should not be a
Speaker 3: surprise that technical problems have been a hallmark of this
Speaker 3: particular edition of the podcast, and which is very clearly
Speaker 3: apparent because the man that I'm interviewing here momentarily for
Speaker 3: this show is my friend, the legendary mister Tom dan Heiser,
Speaker 3: producer of Coast to Coast am also producer of this
Speaker 3: show Strange Things.
Speaker 1: And Tom dan.
Speaker 3: Heiser has worked in broadcasting for many decades and he's been,
Speaker 3: you know, on every end of the technology. And I've
Speaker 3: been working in broadcasting for decades. You'd think that if
Speaker 3: the two of us decided to call each other and
Speaker 3: have a simple conversation, it should be like thoughtless and simple,
Speaker 3: and it should sound like a million bucks. Oh well,
Speaker 3: for the first time since I've ever been in a
Speaker 3: viewing people, I faced this, well, almost an insurmountable problem.
Speaker 3: I got Tom onto my sophisticated professional recording outfit and
Speaker 3: I said hey Tom, and he says, Josh, Hey Tom, Josh,
Speaker 3: And I'm like, what's going on here? You know, So
Speaker 3: I've never had an issue before, So I hung up
Speaker 3: everything rebooted it. We could not connect to talk about
Speaker 3: Kennedy the Doll, and we must have tried, you know,
Speaker 3: I don't know six or seven times, and it just
Speaker 3: wasn't going to work, and so I was getting desperate
Speaker 3: because and now I know, I was also feeling embarrassed,
Speaker 3: like I can't believe, you know, I'm talking to the
Speaker 3: producer of the show here and I can't get this
Speaker 3: equipment to work. For the first time ever. I still
Speaker 3: can't explain what happened. It's working fine now. I tested
Speaker 3: it afterward. So the interview that you're about to hear
Speaker 3: is going to sound a little bit weird because here's
Speaker 3: what I.
Speaker 1: Had to do to make this happen.
Speaker 3: I had to get him on my see phone, put
Speaker 3: him on speaker phone, and then turn on a handheld
Speaker 3: audio recorder right there between the phone and my face
Speaker 3: and record us talking to each other that way. And
Speaker 3: thankfully it still does. It doesn't really sound bad and
Speaker 3: still turned out fine. You can hear what we're saying.
Speaker 3: It just sounds weird. But I want you to know
Speaker 3: that and keep that in mind as you listen to
Speaker 3: what we're talking about, because we will address at some
Speaker 3: point how that once Kennedy gets around.
Speaker 1: This kind of thing begins to happen.
Speaker 3: So here we go. Let's dig into my conversation with
Speaker 3: Tom dan Heiser. Producer, Tom dan Heiser, you and I
Speaker 3: have known each other a long time, many years, and
Speaker 3: you called me one day and said, Joshua, we are
Speaker 3: starting up a Coast to Coast AM paranormal podcast network
Speaker 3: and I want you to be a part of it.
Speaker 3: And I think that was bullied or not over three
Speaker 3: years ago, and I want to thank you right off
Speaker 3: the bat. I just want to thank you publicly for
Speaker 3: inviting me to be a part of the network.
Speaker 6: Well, josh you know, I want to tell you you're
Speaker 6: absolutely right that was about three years ago.
Speaker 5: Every bit of that story is true.
Speaker 6: And you know your show has turned out to be
Speaker 6: a really great show. I made a great decision, if
Speaker 6: I do say so myself, and you're very happy that
Speaker 6: you are a part of the network.
Speaker 5: And I mean that.
Speaker 3: So before we get into the big topic here, I
Speaker 3: just want to ask you what do you think is
Speaker 3: the most important key to all of the success that
Speaker 3: Coast AM has had over all these decades.
Speaker 6: That is one great question. I think one of the
Speaker 6: keys is discernment. I think that when it comes to
Speaker 6: the strange, the MACP, even things that are just scientific,
Speaker 6: I think people are too quick to jump to go, yeah,
Speaker 6: that's it, that's it without thinking things through. Like I noticed,
Speaker 6: I noticed on your show, when like you'll do experiments
Speaker 6: and you'll do, you know, different things, I can tell
Speaker 6: that you think things through before you actually proceed to
Speaker 6: do them, And I think that's very important. You know,
Speaker 6: somebody comes to you and just says, you know, I'm
Speaker 6: just using an example, but they say.
Speaker 5: I'm a warlock.
Speaker 6: You know I can sound your magic. Well, yeah, okay, fine,
Speaker 6: but you know, think things through, can you? So that
Speaker 6: that's kind of a lesser example of what I'm trying
Speaker 6: to say. But I just, like I said, thinking things through,
Speaker 6: I think is a key.
Speaker 3: Well, we love breaking news in the Coast to Coast
Speaker 3: am realm, and you are always full of surprises. And
Speaker 3: recently you contacted me and said that you had a
Speaker 3: special gift to send me, so please tell us that story.
Speaker 6: Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna say about four or five
Speaker 6: years ago, one of the listeners of Coast to Coast
Speaker 6: dam sent a big package to us, and in the package,
Speaker 6: was a doll, a then Trilloquist type doll. His name
Speaker 6: was Kennedy, and they just simply said, could you watch
Speaker 6: out for him? And so, you know, we kept this
Speaker 6: thing around. George and I just kept it around in
Speaker 6: each other's offices forever. And I'm gonna fast forward to
Speaker 6: about a year ago. They had us move offices in
Speaker 6: our studios, so everything was a ray because they're like
Speaker 6: four or five, six seven people moving everything, And somehow
Speaker 6: the letter from the listener got separated from where I
Speaker 6: had Kennedy in a drawer.
Speaker 5: So you know, time went on and I.
Speaker 6: Just I kept Kennedy in my new studio, in my
Speaker 6: new office, and you know, weird stuff started happening, not
Speaker 6: to me, but to friends that would come up to
Speaker 6: my office. And somebody just asked me, look, why don't
Speaker 6: you just, you know, time to get rid of Kennedy. And,
Speaker 6: for lack of a better word, I don't like the
Speaker 6: word get rid of. But and I thought to myself,
Speaker 6: you know what, who better might enjoy him than the
Speaker 6: wizard of Weird? So I contacted you and sure enough
Speaker 6: he said, yeah, I'd love to have him. And that's
Speaker 6: our story. And now you own Kennedy.
Speaker 3: So so, what are the what are some of the
Speaker 3: weird things that happened.
Speaker 6: Well, let me tell you they weren't weird. Things were like,
Speaker 6: oh no, they were Let me back up. At first,
Speaker 6: it was just that people would look at him, and
Speaker 6: my friends would say, he's creepy.
Speaker 5: Don't don't show him to me.
Speaker 6: He's got you know, I'm sure you're going to post
Speaker 6: him at some point on your website, but you know,
Speaker 6: he's got this ventriloquist like face. And they just thought
Speaker 6: he was really, really creepy. And that just went on
Speaker 6: for a while. You know, a couple of friends would
Speaker 6: say here and there, it's really creepy. And then one night,
Speaker 6: and you know, I struggle with this because I can't
Speaker 6: explain this, but when when my girlfriend asked me to
Speaker 6: get rid of him, maybe like a week later, we
Speaker 6: were sleeping and I woke up to this loud crash
Speaker 6: in my kitchen and this this porcelain candy dish I'd
Speaker 6: fallen from the counter. Now, that seems pretty normal to me,
Speaker 6: a dish falling from the top of a shelf. But
Speaker 6: the thing I struggle with is the sound that I
Speaker 6: woke up to. In no way was just a dish falling,
Speaker 6: like someone literally would have had to slam this on
Speaker 6: the ground. And you know, I think to my off
Speaker 6: all the time and I am I kind of just
Speaker 6: overthinking this or whatever, but I'm not, and I can't
Speaker 6: explain it. So that's the first thing that happened. Then
Speaker 6: she started noticing like shadow people going up my stairs,
Speaker 6: and I'm like, come on, come on. So I think
Speaker 6: in fact, Josh, she said that to you and you
Speaker 6: analyzed it.
Speaker 5: Didn't you.
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And I can't explain what that shadow was.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And then listen, Josh, I don't know if this
Speaker 6: relates to Kennedy or not. All I'm saying is it
Speaker 6: kind of started happening after I was asked to send
Speaker 6: him away, and so I had my assistant. She was
Speaker 6: dog sitting for me. One time I was gone and
Speaker 6: she called me about twelve thirty at night because why
Speaker 6: was she calling me?
Speaker 5: And Josh, I.
Speaker 6: Got to tell you, there was serious terror in this
Speaker 6: woman's voice. And she said that she grabbed my dog
Speaker 6: and ran out of the house because she heard quote,
Speaker 6: somebody dribbling a bowling ball upstairs unquote. Now I find
Speaker 6: that fantastic, but I Also, you know, I'm not going
Speaker 6: to question someone else.
Speaker 5: Who says they heard this.
Speaker 6: And if I could somehow, if I could somehow play
Speaker 6: the terror in her voice, I mean, she really was scared.
Speaker 5: I haven't heard any.
Speaker 6: Of this, so you know, as far as I'm concerned,
Speaker 6: I don't have a haunted house or anything like that.
Speaker 6: But these are some of the things that happened ever
Speaker 6: since I was asked to send Kennedy to you.
Speaker 3: Do you have any idea as to why he's named Kennedy.
Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 6: I've been looking all over for that letter, but I
Speaker 6: just I had it with him in a drawer.
Speaker 5: But like I said, things got drawn all over the place.
Speaker 6: When they moved stuff, and so I just don't know
Speaker 6: why his name was Kennedy.
Speaker 3: Okay, time for a break. When we come back, we'll
Speaker 3: talk more about the range activity around the Kennedy And
Speaker 3: I also want to describe him to you in as
Speaker 3: much detail as I can, to tell you sort of
Speaker 3: what it feels like to be around him, and also
Speaker 3: tell you how that you can go and see a
Speaker 3: picture of him.
Speaker 1: I'm Joshua P. Warren.
Speaker 3: You're listening to strange things on the iHeartRadio and Coast
Speaker 3: to Coast I am Paranormal Podcast Network, and I will
Speaker 3: be back after these important messages. Welcome back to Strange
Speaker 3: Things the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.
Speaker 1: I'm your host, Joshua P.
Speaker 3: Warn N. This is the show where the unusual becomes usual.
Speaker 3: And now back to my conversation with producer Tom dan Heizer. Again,
Speaker 3: we had to do this on a speakerphone setting because
Speaker 3: we had so many technical problems. Maybe it's because we're
Speaker 3: talking about the newest member of my family, Kennedy, the
Speaker 3: haunted doll, and you just kept him in a box
Speaker 3: pretty much the whole time you had him right.
Speaker 5: Well, No, what happened was we got him. We got
Speaker 5: him out of the box.
Speaker 6: He sat in George's office for a while and George
Speaker 6: is like, you ready take that thing. I don't want
Speaker 6: to keep looking at it. So I took it in
Speaker 6: my office. I sat him there for a while, and
Speaker 6: then it came time to where we had to really
Speaker 6: start packing up our things to move, so I stuck
Speaker 6: him in a cabinet drawer. I lay him carefully in
Speaker 6: a cabinet drawer and shut the drawer and he stayed
Speaker 6: there for a couple of months.
Speaker 3: Well, as we speak, Kennedy is isolated in a room
Speaker 3: in my lab with a camera on him twenty four
Speaker 3: to seven and some instruments there also on camera to
Speaker 3: measure any kind of electromagnetic or electrostatic activity associated with
Speaker 3: movements and life. So you know, we'll see what we
Speaker 3: can document. But do you think it's possible, Tom, that
Speaker 3: Kennedy might become just as interesting as say, like Robert
Speaker 3: the Dall.
Speaker 5: I do.
Speaker 6: I think it's possible. There's one thing that confuses me.
Speaker 6: Every friend. When I say every friend, I want to say,
Speaker 6: like two or three people I've looked at him that
Speaker 6: he's really creepy, but I've never I mean, I recognize
Speaker 6: that he's kind of, you know, strange look, and he's
Speaker 6: a doll, but I never really felt, you know, threatened
Speaker 6: or creeped out or anything.
Speaker 5: And then when I sent him.
Speaker 6: To you you and Lauren, I believe felt fine, like
Speaker 6: there's nothing weird about him. So I don't know if
Speaker 6: it's the people or what. I certainly think it's possible
Speaker 6: he could be like Wellbert the Doll, But I will
Speaker 6: tell you it is strange to me that nothing will
Speaker 6: Besides the weird things I told you, nothing really happened
Speaker 6: when you got him, and then all of a sudden
Speaker 6: tonight when you asked me if we could talk about him,
Speaker 6: we had some trouble.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for the first time ever. I mean, like, in
Speaker 3: the past three years that I've been doing strange things,
Speaker 3: I have never had an issue with trying to record
Speaker 3: an interview, and this is the first time that's ever happened.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you know, I don't know how to
Speaker 6: explain it, Like I don't know how to explain the
Speaker 6: County dish, and my girlfriend can tell you that she
Speaker 6: did not get a good vibe.
Speaker 5: From him and Josh.
Speaker 6: I wish I could explain and explain to everybody how
Speaker 6: I feel because you know this sound I woke up to,
Speaker 6: and like I said, I'm really discerned. I kind of
Speaker 6: try to take things apart and see what I should
Speaker 6: believe in what I shouldn't. But there was no way
Speaker 6: that this dish falling from a shelf of maybe two
Speaker 6: feet made the noise that was the noise that I
Speaker 6: woke up to.
Speaker 5: There's just no way.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, that's one of the things that has
Speaker 3: always impressed me about you is that you are an
Speaker 3: incredibly logical, practical person. I mean, you hear the craziest
Speaker 3: stories all the time, and yet at the same time,
Speaker 3: you know, you're basically, you know, a businessman, and then
Speaker 3: you're you're looking at logical explanations and cause and effect
Speaker 3: and all that. So it means a lot that you know,
Speaker 3: you think there's something odd about this doll. But in general,
Speaker 3: I guess, uh, do you feel that there is some
Speaker 3: kind of a possible spirit in this thing?
Speaker 6: Yes, I would certainly believe that, But I would also
Speaker 6: believe that the spirit only seems to come out to
Speaker 6: certain people at certain times.
Speaker 5: And I don't you know.
Speaker 6: I love the weird, I love the wacky. I love
Speaker 6: everything this earth has to offer. But the things that
Speaker 6: I can't explain drive me crazy. And you know, I
Speaker 6: don't know this this bowling ball sound that I that
Speaker 6: my assistant heard upstairs around the time when I was
Speaker 6: asked to send Kennedy to you. My girlfriend also herry
Speaker 6: one night when I curious, I haven't heard anything. So
Speaker 6: then I start thinking, well, you know, is it just
Speaker 6: women that hear this? But you know, I just don't know,
Speaker 6: and it drives me crazy. I just I can't figure
Speaker 6: it out, but I will tell you that candy ish
Speaker 6: thing is probably one of the most bizarre things in
Speaker 6: a long time that has happened that ponders me.
Speaker 3: Well, Tom, October is my birthday month, and you've just
Speaker 3: given me a great gift, and I'm pretty sure it
Speaker 3: will be the gift that keeps on giving to all
Speaker 3: of us. So this is exciting, and yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: well just I'm going to keep studying it and updating everybody.
Speaker 3: But thank you, Tom. I appreciate it.
Speaker 6: No, not at all, And I do want to leave
Speaker 6: you with one of the things. You know, there's things
Speaker 6: that are I believe things that are evil will show
Speaker 6: you right away. And the fact that you've had Kennedy
Speaker 6: for a while and everything's good, fine, with the exception
Speaker 6: of maybe our little recording tonight. I don't think he's evil,
Speaker 6: at least not with you and Lauren. I don't think
Speaker 6: he was with me, But I don't think that he
Speaker 6: liked other people telling me, you know, you need to
Speaker 6: get rid of him.
Speaker 5: He's creepy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. I mean, like it
Speaker 3: seems like that there are some bizarre technical things. As
Speaker 3: a matter of fact, the camera that I have on
Speaker 3: him right now has been malfunctioning, and then that's ever
Speaker 3: happened before, So I guess that's just, you know, part
Speaker 3: of the problem when it comes to trying to document
Speaker 3: the pair of normal. I mean, you know, kind of
Speaker 3: interferes with with with with the process. But well, we're
Speaker 3: going to keep everybody updated. Yeah, Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 6: It's weird because you know, this stuff is not you know,
Speaker 6: brain surgery in a record button yet Yeah, sure, things
Speaker 6: are working, it's fine. And when you couldn't, you must
Speaker 6: have called me seven times tonight, yeah, to get a
Speaker 6: proper connection. And I just kept thinking, oh my god,
Speaker 6: what is this.
Speaker 3: I've never had that problem once. I mean I at
Speaker 3: first I was like, is Tom missing with me? I've
Speaker 3: never had that issue at all. So, yeah, there's something
Speaker 3: happening here. So I think it's going to be really interesting,
Speaker 3: h to keep everybody updated on what kind of mysterious
Speaker 3: phenomena occurs around Kennedy and uh, Josh.
Speaker 6: I think I think that you, I and Lauren are
Speaker 6: in as good graces I.
Speaker 3: Will say, I sure, hope. So well, very cool. Well,
Speaker 3: Well thank you Tom, I appreciate it.
Speaker 5: My friend Josh, thanks for having me on strange things.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: I know you all are dying to hear more about
Speaker 3: how Kennedy looks. And by the way, the night that
Speaker 3: I received and Lauren and I took him out of
Speaker 3: the box, we put him in a chair and took
Speaker 3: a picture of him, and I sent it to my
Speaker 3: mom and my mom texted back that thing is creepy.
Speaker 3: I would get rid of that demonic looking thing. So
Speaker 3: that's the reaction that my mom had. But I, Lauren
Speaker 3: and I we definitely we were getting a good vibe
Speaker 3: off him. But here we go. So Kennedy is. He
Speaker 3: looks to be like a standard size ventriloquist doll, except
Speaker 3: he has a very thick torso, his skin is sort
Speaker 3: of light pink. He has cold black hair. He has
Speaker 3: these eyes that look kind of mischievous. He has a
Speaker 3: couple of kind of sharp black eyebrows, and his eyes,
Speaker 3: his eyes are just a little bit squinty, and he's
Speaker 3: got these kind of odd eyelashes drawn around his eyes.
Speaker 3: But his eyes look incredibly realistic. When you look right
Speaker 3: into his eyes, they're kind of penetrating. And he's got
Speaker 3: this he's got red lips and this big wide grin
Speaker 3: on his face, with these slightly rosy cheeks. He's wearing
Speaker 3: a little plaid vest with the burgundy tie. He's got
Speaker 3: some dark trousers on.
Speaker 1: We actually bought him some nice new little shoes.
Speaker 3: He's but he's wearing a white shirt, you know, So
Speaker 3: he looks he looks like a very well dressed little man.
Speaker 3: And the thing is, he also has kind of like
Speaker 3: this smirk on his face. And you know how that
Speaker 3: usually these types of dolls are used in an act
Speaker 3: to be like a little smarty pants, so it's not
Speaker 3: unusual for the doll to have a sarcastic look. But
Speaker 3: he looks realistic enough that when we first got him
Speaker 3: and we had him sitting in the chair, every time
Speaker 3: I would walk into the room and look over and
Speaker 3: like I kind of forget that he was there, and
Speaker 3: I'd look over and see him, and it would startle
Speaker 3: me because I felt like there was a person sitting
Speaker 3: in the house. And as I mentioned before, when we
Speaker 3: first got him, he wasn't completely assembled. You could take
Speaker 3: his head out of his body, and it has all
Speaker 3: these levers all over it, and one lever controls his
Speaker 3: eyebrows going up and down. The other one controls his
Speaker 3: eyes moving back and forth, and then he's got one
Speaker 3: for opening and closing his eyes.
Speaker 1: And his mouth. And I mean, it's just.
Speaker 3: Really, really well made. And I do believe this is
Speaker 3: a professional doll. And I'm going to try to figure
Speaker 3: out who made him. I know a guy I haven't
Speaker 3: talked to him in years. Here's a professional puppeteer. I'm
Speaker 3: going to see if I can get in touch with
Speaker 3: him to give you his insight on who may have
Speaker 3: made this doll. Where did this doll come from? But honestly,
Speaker 3: since we've had at him, nothing terrible has happened. But
Speaker 3: I do have him under surveillance twenty four to seven.
Speaker 3: We have instruments on him, and I just hope the
Speaker 3: energy stays positive. But I'm going to be keeping you
Speaker 3: updated on this, and I am just delighted to have
Speaker 3: Kennedy and I think it's just amazing that Tom sent
Speaker 3: me this and now I can study it and tell
Speaker 3: all of you about it. So trust me, there's going
Speaker 3: to be more to come, and there's going to be
Speaker 3: more to come on this show. In our next segment,
Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you about this very haunted property
Speaker 3: that I investigated last night.
Speaker 1: I'm Joshua P.
Speaker 3: Warren, and you are listening to Strange Things on the
Speaker 3: iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network, and
Speaker 3: I will be right back. Welcome back to the final
Speaker 3: segment of this edition of Strange Things on the iHeartRadio
Speaker 3: and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I am
Speaker 3: your host, Joshua P. Warren, and I was so wrapped
Speaker 3: up and looking at the picture of Kennedy, the Haunted
Speaker 3: doll and describing him, that I forgot to tell you
Speaker 3: how you can just go look at a picture of
Speaker 3: him yourself. Go to Joshua pe Warren dot com. There
Speaker 3: is no period after the p at Joshua P. Warren
Speaker 3: dot com. Click the link to the Curiosity Shop. Scroll
Speaker 3: and you will find a picture of Kennedy somewhere on
Speaker 3: that page. You can't miss him. And you know white
Speaker 3: else while you are there, if you purchase something, guess
Speaker 3: what's gonna happen. I've got some great news, believe it
Speaker 3: or not. Our little dog Lama is still alive and
Speaker 3: she is doing much better than anybody ever expected. I
Speaker 3: was prepared to give you some bad news with this recording.
Speaker 3: But I'm telling you, I mean, it's almost starting to
Speaker 3: border on miraculous. So many of you have gone to
Speaker 3: the Curiosity Shop and you've purchased things. All the money
Speaker 3: goes to her medical care. You've been praying, people have
Speaker 3: been sending various gifts that might help her. I mean,
Speaker 3: I it's honestly starting to border on miraculous, and so
Speaker 3: at a certain point, I do want to tell all
Speaker 3: of you exactly every specific thing that we've done and
Speaker 3: people who have helped us specifically along the way, so
Speaker 3: that if your pet is having trouble, especially severe trouble,
Speaker 3: I mean, like on death's door, I feel obligated to
Speaker 3: share this information with you. So thank you, Thank you,
Speaker 3: keep the prayers coming, and again, please please go to
Speaker 3: Joshua Pee warrener dot com, go to that Curiosity Shop
Speaker 3: and know that any dollar you spend is going to
Speaker 3: an excellent cause. I wish we had more time, but
Speaker 3: we don't, So let me jump straight into what I
Speaker 3: did last night. I have a friend who shoots videos
Speaker 3: on YouTube. They're very popular videos. His name is Danny
Speaker 3: the Medic because he actually is a paramedic. So if
Speaker 3: you go to YouTube and you just type in Danny
Speaker 3: d A n n Y Danny the Medic. You can
Speaker 3: see the videos that he does that are often focused
Speaker 3: on the Las Vegas area, and they're very insightful, they're funny,
Speaker 3: and like I say, he's got a very popular ch channel.
Speaker 3: So he wanted to do something spooky for Halloween, and
Speaker 3: I told him that, well, if we were to get
Speaker 3: together and investigate a haunted room, we should probably do
Speaker 3: it at the Flamingo. Because long story short, the Flamingo,
Speaker 3: which opened on December twenty sixth of nineteen forty six,
Speaker 3: became the model for today's like lavish hotel casino on
Speaker 3: the strip. I mean, that was what everything else after
Speaker 3: the Flamingo tried to live up to Flamingos standards. And
Speaker 3: one of the reasons that place was so lavish was
Speaker 3: because it was very expensive to put together. And the
Speaker 3: guy who kind of came in and finalized that whole
Speaker 3: project was the infamous mobster Bugsy Siegel. Bugsy Siegel was
Speaker 3: one of the most famous gangsters of his day, and
Speaker 3: when he got involved with the Flamingo, he was, you know,
Speaker 3: around his early forties. He was just a brutal murderer
Speaker 3: and he was connected to just about every vice you
Speaker 3: can imagine, and yet he was very popular in the press.
Speaker 3: He always wore nice suits, and he was, you know,
Speaker 3: he was the class kind of like gangster, live in
Speaker 3: the high life kind of thing, even though he was
Speaker 3: a wicked man. And so he was involved with the
Speaker 3: mob money and murder Incorporated and all that, and so
Speaker 3: he got an enormous amount of mob money there to
Speaker 3: finish up that project. But it didn't open as well
Speaker 3: as was expected. He was there managing it the whole time,
Speaker 3: and Buggsy Segull. He hated to be called bugsy. His
Speaker 3: name was Benjamin, but they called him bugsy because he
Speaker 3: killed a lot of people.
Speaker 1: With his own hands.
Speaker 3: And everybody said he was crazy as a bedbug when
Speaker 3: he got mad, whatever that means. But he had his
Speaker 3: own penthouse there he would stay in, and he had
Speaker 3: so many enemies that there was only one doorway and
Speaker 3: only one entrance into his suite, but there were five
Speaker 3: hidden exits. One of them was through a closet where
Speaker 3: he would slide down this ladder basically where he would
Speaker 3: keep a limo driver waiting twenty four hours a day,
Speaker 3: seven days a week, you know, to get him out
Speaker 3: of there, and so there was a lot of dark
Speaker 3: energy around the Flamingo. And at some point, not long
Speaker 3: I mean less than a year after it opened, the
Speaker 3: other gangsters who were, you know, bankrolling a lot of
Speaker 3: this stuff, Maya Lankski and such. They said that, well,
Speaker 3: a lot of them believed that he was in bezzling
Speaker 3: money and that was a big no no. So when
Speaker 3: he was forty one years old, Bugsy Siegel was sitting
Speaker 3: at his girlfriend's house in Beverly Hills in the evening
Speaker 3: reading a newspaper and somebody came outside, came up to
Speaker 3: the house outside the window with a rifle and shot
Speaker 3: him multiple times and killed him. One bullet actually knocked
Speaker 3: his left eyeball out of his head, so he died instantly,
Speaker 3: and that murder has never been solved. Everybody said that
Speaker 3: so many people wanted to kill him, it would be
Speaker 3: impossible to solve that murder. So what's interesting is that
Speaker 3: as soon as that happened, a lot of people started,
Speaker 3: you know, they stopped talking about Bugsy Siegel because they thought, well,
Speaker 3: we don't want to be associated with that. But times
Speaker 3: have changed, and so now there's actually a garden behind
Speaker 3: the Flamingo and it has flamingos in it, and they
Speaker 3: have a chapel there, and they have a little memorial
Speaker 3: with a plaque dedicated to Bugsy Siegel, and people see
Speaker 3: the ghost of Bugsy Siegel walking around that little garden
Speaker 3: all the time, but also all over the property, and
Speaker 3: there have been dozens of reports of guests and employees
Speaker 3: seeing these gangster apparitions in their rooms at night. Whether
Speaker 3: or not it actually is Bugsy Seagull is hard to say,
Speaker 3: because Buggsy Seagull probably was always haunted by a lot
Speaker 3: of these unre unrestful spirits anyway that he had helped
Speaker 3: to provide by being a murderer, so that the property
Speaker 3: was always haunted by those types of beings. But you know,
Speaker 3: and then there was a maid who said that one
Speaker 3: time she heard this guy screaming bloody murder, like he
Speaker 3: was being tortured, and when the rooms and she got
Speaker 3: security and went in, but there was nobody in there.
Speaker 3: The stories go on and on. How about that whole
Speaker 3: property being haunted? So Danny and I got together last
Speaker 3: night and I brought some of my best equipment and
Speaker 3: we sat down in his room and we shot some
Speaker 3: video and I did some tests, and let me tell
Speaker 3: you right off the bat, the first thing that happened
Speaker 3: was Danny has shot I'm sure hundreds of videos, if
Speaker 3: not over one thousand, and as soon as we sit
Speaker 3: down and start talking about this, the audio starts cutting
Speaker 3: in and out. Everything starts glitching. Even he was amazed,
Speaker 3: and he says, he's a man of science. Okay, he's
Speaker 3: a medic, he's not a ghost enthusiast.
Speaker 1: Even he was amazed.
Speaker 3: And after that we started getting some very strange readings
Speaker 3: on theF meters. I had a thermal camera. There got
Speaker 3: some very interesting hot spots and cold spots. So I
Speaker 3: don't know what all the results are going to show us.
Speaker 3: I can tell you that I did not see the
Speaker 3: ghost of a gangster up here in the room last night.
Speaker 3: But what I will tell you is that I have
Speaker 3: not seen this finished segment yet. And he said that
Speaker 3: he is going to release it on October the thirty first.
Speaker 3: So I don't know when you're listening to this podcast,
Speaker 3: but if if it's after October the thirty first, twenty
Speaker 3: twenty three on or after, well then go to YouTube
Speaker 3: and look up Danny the Medic and you'll find that
Speaker 3: as one of his most recent videodeos. But I find that,
Speaker 3: you know, at a place like that, you might go
Speaker 3: in and say, well, maybe this room isn't haunted, maybe
Speaker 3: that room isn't. But once you start talking about these things,
Speaker 3: that alone can bring that energy in. Because the spiritual
Speaker 3: realm is not always necessarily tied down to a particular
Speaker 3: place or a particular time. You can access it mentally
Speaker 3: at any time from anywhere. And it seems like it
Speaker 3: doesn't matter what you believe or you don't believe, that
Speaker 3: there is always something that at least affects your equipment
Speaker 3: and your instruments when you start bringing up this kind
Speaker 3: of material. And that's why I say that's been a
Speaker 3: hallmark of this particular show. So check out Danny's video
Speaker 3: and I could sit here and talk to you more
Speaker 3: and more and more about creepy things related to the
Speaker 3: Mob and the Flamingo, But ultimately I do love the Flamingo.
Speaker 3: It's a great place, and I recommend you check it out. Also,
Speaker 3: in less than a month, the new Duringo Casino opens
Speaker 3: in my neck at the Woods, and I'm looking forward
Speaker 3: to telling you more about that. All right, my friends,
Speaker 3: I hope you have enjoyed this special spooky edition of
Speaker 3: the show. I will let you know how things go
Speaker 3: with Kennedy the Doll. Maybe we'll find out more about
Speaker 3: who he is and where he's from and all that
Speaker 3: kind of thing. But now it is time, as we
Speaker 3: often do, to try to like clear our minds, breathe
Speaker 3: in something positive. Take a deep breath if you can,
Speaker 3: close your eyes if you can, let's all listen together
Speaker 3: to the good Fortune tone. That's it for this edition
Speaker 3: of the show. Follow me on Twitter at Joshua P. Warren,
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Speaker 3: at Joshuapwarren dot com. I have a fun one lined
Speaker 3: up for you next time, I promise. So please tell
Speaker 3: all your friends to subscribe to this show and to
Speaker 3: always remember the Golden Rule. Thank you for listening, thank
Speaker 3: you for your interest and support, thank you for staying curious,
Speaker 3: and I will talk to you again soon. You've been
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