1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:01,400 Speaker 1: And you're here. 2 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 2: Thanks for choosing the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast Day 3 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 2: and Paranormal Podcast Network. Your quest for podcasts of the paranormal, supernatural, 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 2: and the unexplained ends here. We invite you to enjoy 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 2: all our shows we have on this network, and right now, 6 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 2: let's start with Strange Things with Joshua P. 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 3: Warren. 8 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 4: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 9 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 4: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 10 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 4: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 11 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 4: to Coast AM, employees of Premiere Networks, or their sponsors 12 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 4: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 13 00:00:45,840 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 4: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 14 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: Ready to be amazed by the wizard of Weird Strange 15 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: Things with Joshua Warren. 16 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 3: I am Joshua B. Warren. At Each week on this show, 17 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 3: I'll be bringing you brandon new mind blowing content, news exercises, and. 18 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: Weird experiments you can do at home, and. 19 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 3: A lot more. On this special edition of the show, 20 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 3: I have a new haunted doll and his name is Kennedy. 21 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 3: I have been wanting to tell you about this for 22 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 3: a long time. I've been saving it up, and that's 23 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 3: why I think in part this is a special show. 24 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 3: Kennedy was given to me by a great friend. And 25 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 3: soon that friend is going to come on this podcast 26 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 3: as a surprise guest and tell you the story behind 27 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 3: this most intriguing doll. But first, I am recording this 28 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 3: in October, and it is now a tradition for me 29 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 3: every October to tell you this tale, to set the tone, 30 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 3: to create the mood, to tell you the story of 31 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 3: Stingy Jack. Several centuries ago, amongst the green countryside and 32 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 3: superstitious towns and villages in Ireland, there lived a drunkard 33 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 3: known as Stingy Jack. Jack was known throughout the land 34 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 3: as a deceiver, a manipulator, and a dredge on his community. 35 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 3: On a fateful hallowy night typical of Jack, he was 36 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 3: drunk and wandering through the countryside in the moonlight when 37 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 3: he stumbled upon his shadowy. 38 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: Body lying in his path. And to a. 39 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 3: Surprise, the body, with an eerie grimace on his pale face, 40 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 3: rose suddenly and the figure said to Stingy Jack, I 41 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 3: am the devil and I have finally come for you. 42 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: You knew this day would come. What do you want 43 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: with me, exclaimed Jack. 44 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 3: I'm here to take your soul down to hell, said 45 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 3: the horrible, grinning figure. Well, Jack seemed to accept his fate, 46 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 3: but he said to the devil, then please please at 47 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 3: least give me one last drink of l before I go. 48 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: Well, the devil, always up for a good time, said. 49 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 3: Well, yes, fine, then let's go to the pub for 50 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 3: your last ale. Well, the two had a good old time, 51 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 3: drinking up a storm for hours. Finally the tab came 52 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 3: to but Jack did not have a penny to his name, 53 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 3: so he said to the devil, well, you're a great 54 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 3: and powerful magician. Let's see if you can turn yourself 55 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 3: into a silver coin, we can give this barkeep. Well, 56 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 3: the devil was happy to show off and oblige, and 57 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 3: he transformed himself into a silver coin. Jack quickly stuffed 58 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:44,239 Speaker 3: the coin into his pocket, where Jack always kept a crucifix, 59 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 3: and this trapped old satan. You see, his power was 60 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 3: gone next to a crucifix, and the devil begged Jack 61 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 3: to let him go free. But Jack said, I know 62 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 3: my inevitable fate, but I'll only release you if you 63 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 3: grant me ten more years, just ten more years on 64 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 3: this earth. The devil had no choice but to agree. Well, 65 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 3: you think old stingy Jack would have changed his ways, 66 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 3: but he did not. Some say he got even worse. 67 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 3: But time flies by, and Halloween night, ten years later, 68 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 3: Old Jack was wandering the moonlit countryside when once again 69 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 3: his old friend, the devil, appeared next to a dark tree. 70 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 3: It's been ten years, growled the devil. 71 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: Now it's time to go, Jack. 72 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 3: And Jack bowed his head and said, all right, all right, 73 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 3: I know it's time, but at least give me one 74 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 3: last morsel of food from this good green earth before. 75 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: I have to go. 76 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 3: And the devil was actually kind of fond of Jack, 77 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 3: and he said, oh fine, I'll give you one last 78 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 3: morsel of food since you won't be getting it anymore forever. 79 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 3: They were next to an apple tree, and Jack said, 80 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 3: I can't reach them apples up there, but you're a 81 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 3: great and powerful spirit. Can you please run up that 82 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 3: tree and take me down an apple to feed this 83 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 3: hungry belly? And once again the devil agreed to this request. 84 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 3: But as the devil climbed up the gnarled branches of 85 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 3: the tree, clever old stingy, Jack reached in his pockets 86 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 3: and quickly surrounded the base of the tree with a 87 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 3: ring of crucifixes. Satan was mad as hell that he 88 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 3: had been entrapped again and demanded his release, and as before, 89 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 3: Jack made a demand that his soul never be taken 90 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 3: by Satan into hades. Satan had no choice but to agree, 91 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 3: and so the devil was set free. Well the years 92 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 3: passed by, time always wins. Eventually, the hard drinking took 93 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 3: its toll on Jack and he died in pain. Jack 94 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 3: found himself at the gate of Saint Peter in heaven, 95 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 3: but he was stopped. Saint Peter said, Jack, because of 96 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 3: your drinking and sinful life of deceit, you shall never 97 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 3: be allowed in heaven. So Jack was immediately spirited down 98 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 3: to Hell. But there he saw his old drinking buddy, 99 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 3: the devil, once again, and Satan said, I have to 100 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 3: fulfill my promise. Jack, you shall never be admitted here, 101 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 3: And so Jack was not admitted to heaven or Hell, 102 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 3: and the Devil, with his eerie, vindictive grin, tossed a 103 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 3: fiery ember into an old, hollowed out turnip and gave 104 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 3: it to Jack, and the devil said, you shall miserably 105 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 3: wander the earth forever, never at rest, always weary, with 106 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 3: this lantern as a warning to all those fools who 107 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 3: think they can somehow outsmart God and the Devil. And 108 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 3: to this day, on some dark, clear nights, especially around Halloween, 109 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 3: you'll catch a glimpse of old stingy Jack with his lantern, 110 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 3: drifting about the hills and glens. All he wants now 111 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 3: is a rest that shall never come. He is doomed 112 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 3: to this fate for all time. Those who see this 113 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 3: apparition shudder and rush their children inside. He's old stingy 114 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 3: Jack with his lantern, where as we call him Jack 115 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 3: of the Lantern or Jack a Lantern. And that, my friends, 116 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 3: is the story of the jacka Lantern. 117 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 5: Ah. 118 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 3: Yes, I don't know why exactly I love that tale 119 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 3: so much. I guess because that for me, it seems 120 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 3: to capture that spirit of the origin of Halloween, back 121 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 3: of the old world. But now that that piece of 122 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 3: nostalgia is out of the way, we will begin prepping 123 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 3: for the main event this show. That is because I 124 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 3: am very particular these days about accepting physical packages from anybody. 125 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 3: But I have known this guy for a long time. 126 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 3: He's been a really good friend, and he has been 127 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 3: telling me for a long time he was going to 128 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 3: send me this package. And just recently, I mean weeks ago, 129 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 3: this large box arrived at my house and when I 130 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 3: opened it, there was one of the most impressive ventriloquist 131 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 3: dolls that I have ever seen. And you may or 132 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 3: may not know this, but technically, I guess professionally they're 133 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 3: called ventriloical figures, and this was an extremely well made 134 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 3: doll figure. I don't think it's good to call him 135 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 3: a dummy, and I mean the craftsmanship was amazing. I 136 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 3: think that a professional may this particular doll painstakingly, almost 137 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 3: like Geppetto making Pinocchio. And the origin of this doll 138 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 3: is it's still sort of up in the air. His 139 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 3: name is Kennedy. Now why is that? Well, I'm going 140 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 3: to ask that question in a moment, because when we 141 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 3: come back from the break, my special guest, the man 142 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 3: who sent this doll to me, is going to tell 143 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 3: us all in his own words about how he obtained 144 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 3: this and why that this doll is haunted. And then 145 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you what I have been doing 146 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 3: to study this doll since the doll has been in 147 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 3: my possession. And as if that weren't enough. After we 148 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 3: talk about all that, then I just last night went 149 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 3: on a paranormal investigation at one of the most haunted 150 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 3: properties at all of Las Vegas. I'm going to tell 151 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 3: you the story about that place as well. Oh my goodness, 152 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 3: I guess you should know by now that if you 153 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 3: want to really get the latest, greatest, breaking fresh news, 154 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 3: you have to go sign up for my free E newsletter. 155 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 3: Go to Joshua Pwarren dot com and sign up for 156 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 3: the E newsletter right there on the homepage. Sometimes I 157 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 3: just send out free amazing stuff to people. 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Warren, and you are listening to Range 167 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 3: Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal 168 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 3: podcast Network, and I will be right back. Welcome back 169 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 3: to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast 170 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 3: a M paranormal podcast Network. I am your host, the 171 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 3: Wizard of Weird, Joshua P. Warren, beaming into your wormhole 172 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 3: brain from my studio in Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada, 173 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 3: where every is golden end, every night is silver Uh 174 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 3: getato zoome. And if you have any experience doing paranormal investigation, 175 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 3: you probably know that one of the biggest challenges you 176 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 3: face is this phenomenon of genuine paranormal activity causing your 177 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 3: equipment to malfunction. And that is a big, big problem 178 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 3: when you're trying to document something, especially something rare. So 179 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 3: I'm talking about your camera stops working, your your microphone 180 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 3: stops working, your your batteries fail. I mean, it's just 181 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 3: a well known phenomenon. And people who are you know, 182 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 3: debunkers and cynics, they say, oh, isn't that convenient, Well, 183 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 3: I know it seems that way, but I mean that 184 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 3: also is very much a part of you know, what 185 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 3: happens when these these bizarre energies are are manifesting in 186 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 3: the environment. Well, well, therefore, it should not be a 187 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 3: surprise that technical problems have been a hallmark of this 188 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 3: particular edition of the podcast, and which is very clearly 189 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 3: apparent because the man that I'm interviewing here momentarily for 190 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 3: this show is my friend, the legendary mister Tom dan Heiser, 191 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 3: producer of Coast to Coast am also producer of this 192 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 3: show Strange Things. 193 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: And Tom dan. 194 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 3: Heiser has worked in broadcasting for many decades and he's been, 195 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 3: you know, on every end of the technology. And I've 196 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 3: been working in broadcasting for decades. You'd think that if 197 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 3: the two of us decided to call each other and 198 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 3: have a simple conversation, it should be like thoughtless and simple, 199 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 3: and it should sound like a million bucks. Oh well, 200 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 3: for the first time since I've ever been in a 201 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 3: viewing people, I faced this, well, almost an insurmountable problem. 202 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 3: I got Tom onto my sophisticated professional recording outfit and 203 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 3: I said hey Tom, and he says, Josh, Hey Tom, Josh, 204 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 3: And I'm like, what's going on here? You know, So 205 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 3: I've never had an issue before, So I hung up 206 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 3: everything rebooted it. We could not connect to talk about 207 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 3: Kennedy the Doll, and we must have tried, you know, 208 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 3: I don't know six or seven times, and it just 209 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 3: wasn't going to work, and so I was getting desperate 210 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 3: because and now I know, I was also feeling embarrassed, 211 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 3: like I can't believe, you know, I'm talking to the 212 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 3: producer of the show here and I can't get this 213 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 3: equipment to work. For the first time ever. I still 214 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 3: can't explain what happened. It's working fine now. I tested 215 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 3: it afterward. So the interview that you're about to hear 216 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 3: is going to sound a little bit weird because here's 217 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 3: what I. 218 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: Had to do to make this happen. 219 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 3: I had to get him on my see phone, put 220 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 3: him on speaker phone, and then turn on a handheld 221 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 3: audio recorder right there between the phone and my face 222 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 3: and record us talking to each other that way. And 223 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 3: thankfully it still does. It doesn't really sound bad and 224 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 3: still turned out fine. You can hear what we're saying. 225 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,479 Speaker 3: It just sounds weird. But I want you to know 226 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 3: that and keep that in mind as you listen to 227 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 3: what we're talking about, because we will address at some 228 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 3: point how that once Kennedy gets around. 229 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: This kind of thing begins to happen. 230 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 3: So here we go. Let's dig into my conversation with 231 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 3: Tom dan Heiser. Producer, Tom dan Heiser, you and I 232 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 3: have known each other a long time, many years, and 233 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 3: you called me one day and said, Joshua, we are 234 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 3: starting up a Coast to Coast AM paranormal podcast network 235 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:58,959 Speaker 3: and I want you to be a part of it. 236 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 3: And I think that was bullied or not over three 237 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 3: years ago, and I want to thank you right off 238 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 3: the bat. I just want to thank you publicly for 239 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 3: inviting me to be a part of the network. 240 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 6: Well, josh you know, I want to tell you you're 241 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 6: absolutely right that was about three years ago. 242 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 5: Every bit of that story is true. 243 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 6: And you know your show has turned out to be 244 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 6: a really great show. I made a great decision, if 245 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 6: I do say so myself, and you're very happy that 246 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 6: you are a part of the network. 247 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 5: And I mean that. 248 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 3: So before we get into the big topic here, I 249 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 3: just want to ask you what do you think is 250 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 3: the most important key to all of the success that 251 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 3: Coast AM has had over all these decades. 252 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 6: That is one great question. I think one of the 253 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 6: keys is discernment. I think that when it comes to 254 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 6: the strange, the MACP, even things that are just scientific, 255 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 6: I think people are too quick to jump to go, yeah, 256 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 6: that's it, that's it without thinking things through. Like I noticed, 257 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 6: I noticed on your show, when like you'll do experiments 258 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 6: and you'll do, you know, different things, I can tell 259 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 6: that you think things through before you actually proceed to 260 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 6: do them, And I think that's very important. You know, 261 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 6: somebody comes to you and just says, you know, I'm 262 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 6: just using an example, but they say. 263 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 5: I'm a warlock. 264 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 6: You know I can sound your magic. Well, yeah, okay, fine, 265 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 6: but you know, think things through, can you? So that 266 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 6: that's kind of a lesser example of what I'm trying 267 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 6: to say. But I just, like I said, thinking things through, 268 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 6: I think is a key. 269 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 3: Well, we love breaking news in the Coast to Coast 270 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 3: am realm, and you are always full of surprises. And 271 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 3: recently you contacted me and said that you had a 272 00:19:56,040 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 3: special gift to send me, so please tell us that story. 273 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 6: Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna say about four or five 274 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 6: years ago, one of the listeners of Coast to Coast 275 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 6: dam sent a big package to us, and in the package, 276 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 6: was a doll, a then Trilloquist type doll. His name 277 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 6: was Kennedy, and they just simply said, could you watch 278 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 6: out for him? And so, you know, we kept this 279 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 6: thing around. George and I just kept it around in 280 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 6: each other's offices forever. And I'm gonna fast forward to 281 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 6: about a year ago. They had us move offices in 282 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 6: our studios, so everything was a ray because they're like 283 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 6: four or five, six seven people moving everything, And somehow 284 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 6: the letter from the listener got separated from where I 285 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 6: had Kennedy in a drawer. 286 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 5: So you know, time went on and I. 287 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 6: Just I kept Kennedy in my new studio, in my 288 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 6: new office, and you know, weird stuff started happening, not 289 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 6: to me, but to friends that would come up to 290 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 6: my office. And somebody just asked me, look, why don't 291 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 6: you just, you know, time to get rid of Kennedy. And, 292 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 6: for lack of a better word, I don't like the 293 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 6: word get rid of. But and I thought to myself, 294 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 6: you know what, who better might enjoy him than the 295 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 6: wizard of Weird? So I contacted you and sure enough 296 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 6: he said, yeah, I'd love to have him. And that's 297 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 6: our story. And now you own Kennedy. 298 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 3: So so, what are the what are some of the 299 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 3: weird things that happened. 300 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 6: Well, let me tell you they weren't weird. Things were like, 301 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 6: oh no, they were Let me back up. At first, 302 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 6: it was just that people would look at him, and 303 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 6: my friends would say, he's creepy. 304 00:21:58,359 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 5: Don't don't show him to me. 305 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 6: He's got you know, I'm sure you're going to post 306 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 6: him at some point on your website, but you know, 307 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 6: he's got this ventriloquist like face. And they just thought 308 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 6: he was really, really creepy. And that just went on 309 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 6: for a while. You know, a couple of friends would 310 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 6: say here and there, it's really creepy. And then one night, 311 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 6: and you know, I struggle with this because I can't 312 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 6: explain this, but when when my girlfriend asked me to 313 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 6: get rid of him, maybe like a week later, we 314 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 6: were sleeping and I woke up to this loud crash 315 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 6: in my kitchen and this this porcelain candy dish I'd 316 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 6: fallen from the counter. Now, that seems pretty normal to me, 317 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 6: a dish falling from the top of a shelf. But 318 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 6: the thing I struggle with is the sound that I 319 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 6: woke up to. In no way was just a dish falling, 320 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 6: like someone literally would have had to slam this on 321 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 6: the ground. And you know, I think to my off 322 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,239 Speaker 6: all the time and I am I kind of just 323 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 6: overthinking this or whatever, but I'm not, and I can't 324 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 6: explain it. So that's the first thing that happened. Then 325 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 6: she started noticing like shadow people going up my stairs, 326 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 6: and I'm like, come on, come on. So I think 327 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 6: in fact, Josh, she said that to you and you 328 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 6: analyzed it. 329 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 5: Didn't you. 330 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 6: Oh? 331 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And I can't explain what that shadow was. 332 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, And then listen, Josh, I don't know if this 333 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 6: relates to Kennedy or not. All I'm saying is it 334 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 6: kind of started happening after I was asked to send 335 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 6: him away, and so I had my assistant. She was 336 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 6: dog sitting for me. One time I was gone and 337 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 6: she called me about twelve thirty at night because why 338 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 6: was she calling me? 339 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 5: And Josh, I. 340 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 6: Got to tell you, there was serious terror in this 341 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 6: woman's voice. And she said that she grabbed my dog 342 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 6: and ran out of the house because she heard quote, 343 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 6: somebody dribbling a bowling ball upstairs unquote. Now I find 344 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 6: that fantastic, but I Also, you know, I'm not going 345 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 6: to question someone else. 346 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 5: Who says they heard this. 347 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 6: And if I could somehow, if I could somehow play 348 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 6: the terror in her voice, I mean, she really was scared. 349 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 5: I haven't heard any. 350 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 6: Of this, so you know, as far as I'm concerned, 351 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 6: I don't have a haunted house or anything like that. 352 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 6: But these are some of the things that happened ever 353 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 6: since I was asked to send Kennedy to you. 354 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 3: Do you have any idea as to why he's named Kennedy. 355 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 5: I don't. 356 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 6: I've been looking all over for that letter, but I 357 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 6: just I had it with him in a drawer. 358 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 5: But like I said, things got drawn all over the place. 359 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 6: When they moved stuff, and so I just don't know 360 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 6: why his name was Kennedy. 361 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 3: Okay, time for a break. When we come back, we'll 362 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 3: talk more about the range activity around the Kennedy And 363 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 3: I also want to describe him to you in as 364 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 3: much detail as I can, to tell you sort of 365 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 3: what it feels like to be around him, and also 366 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 3: tell you how that you can go and see a 367 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 3: picture of him. 368 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: I'm Joshua P. Warren. 369 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 3: You're listening to strange things on the iHeartRadio and Coast 370 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 3: to Coast I am Paranormal Podcast Network, and I will 371 00:25:26,000 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 3: be back after these important messages. Welcome back to Strange 372 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 3: Things the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 373 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Joshua P. 374 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 3: Warn N. This is the show where the unusual becomes usual. 375 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 3: And now back to my conversation with producer Tom dan Heizer. Again, 376 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 3: we had to do this on a speakerphone setting because 377 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 3: we had so many technical problems. Maybe it's because we're 378 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 3: talking about the newest member of my family, Kennedy, the 379 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 3: haunted doll, and you just kept him in a box 380 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 3: pretty much the whole time you had him right. 381 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 5: Well, No, what happened was we got him. We got 382 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 5: him out of the box. 383 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 6: He sat in George's office for a while and George 384 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 6: is like, you ready take that thing. I don't want 385 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 6: to keep looking at it. So I took it in 386 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 6: my office. I sat him there for a while, and 387 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 6: then it came time to where we had to really 388 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 6: start packing up our things to move, so I stuck 389 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 6: him in a cabinet drawer. I lay him carefully in 390 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 6: a cabinet drawer and shut the drawer and he stayed 391 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 6: there for a couple of months. 392 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 3: Well, as we speak, Kennedy is isolated in a room 393 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 3: in my lab with a camera on him twenty four 394 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 3: to seven and some instruments there also on camera to 395 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 3: measure any kind of electromagnetic or electrostatic activity associated with 396 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 3: movements and life. So you know, we'll see what we 397 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 3: can document. But do you think it's possible, Tom, that 398 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 3: Kennedy might become just as interesting as say, like Robert 399 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 3: the Dall. 400 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 5: I do. 401 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 6: I think it's possible. There's one thing that confuses me. 402 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 6: Every friend. When I say every friend, I want to say, 403 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 6: like two or three people I've looked at him that 404 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 6: he's really creepy, but I've never I mean, I recognize 405 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 6: that he's kind of, you know, strange look, and he's 406 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 6: a doll, but I never really felt, you know, threatened 407 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 6: or creeped out or anything. 408 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 5: And then when I sent him. 409 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 6: To you you and Lauren, I believe felt fine, like 410 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 6: there's nothing weird about him. So I don't know if 411 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 6: it's the people or what. I certainly think it's possible 412 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 6: he could be like Wellbert the Doll, But I will 413 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 6: tell you it is strange to me that nothing will 414 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 6: Besides the weird things I told you, nothing really happened 415 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 6: when you got him, and then all of a sudden 416 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 6: tonight when you asked me if we could talk about him, 417 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 6: we had some trouble. 418 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, for the first time ever. I mean, like, in 419 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 3: the past three years that I've been doing strange things, 420 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 3: I have never had an issue with trying to record 421 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 3: an interview, and this is the first time that's ever happened. 422 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you know, I don't know how to 423 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 6: explain it, Like I don't know how to explain the 424 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 6: County dish, and my girlfriend can tell you that she 425 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 6: did not get a good vibe. 426 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 5: From him and Josh. 427 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 6: I wish I could explain and explain to everybody how 428 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 6: I feel because you know this sound I woke up to, 429 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 6: and like I said, I'm really discerned. I kind of 430 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 6: try to take things apart and see what I should 431 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 6: believe in what I shouldn't. But there was no way 432 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 6: that this dish falling from a shelf of maybe two 433 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 6: feet made the noise that was the noise that I 434 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 6: woke up to. 435 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 5: There's just no way. 436 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 3: Well, you know, that's one of the things that has 437 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 3: always impressed me about you is that you are an 438 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 3: incredibly logical, practical person. I mean, you hear the craziest 439 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 3: stories all the time, and yet at the same time, 440 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 3: you know, you're basically, you know, a businessman, and then 441 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 3: you're you're looking at logical explanations and cause and effect 442 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 3: and all that. So it means a lot that you know, 443 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 3: you think there's something odd about this doll. But in general, 444 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 3: I guess, uh, do you feel that there is some 445 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 3: kind of a possible spirit in this thing? 446 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 6: Yes, I would certainly believe that, But I would also 447 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 6: believe that the spirit only seems to come out to 448 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 6: certain people at certain times. 449 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 5: And I don't you know. 450 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 6: I love the weird, I love the wacky. I love 451 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 6: everything this earth has to offer. But the things that 452 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 6: I can't explain drive me crazy. And you know, I 453 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 6: don't know this this bowling ball sound that I that 454 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 6: my assistant heard upstairs around the time when I was 455 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 6: asked to send Kennedy to you. My girlfriend also herry 456 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 6: one night when I curious, I haven't heard anything. So 457 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 6: then I start thinking, well, you know, is it just 458 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 6: women that hear this? But you know, I just don't know, 459 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 6: and it drives me crazy. I just I can't figure 460 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 6: it out, but I will tell you that candy ish 461 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 6: thing is probably one of the most bizarre things in 462 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 6: a long time that has happened that ponders me. 463 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 3: Well, Tom, October is my birthday month, and you've just 464 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 3: given me a great gift, and I'm pretty sure it 465 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 3: will be the gift that keeps on giving to all 466 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 3: of us. So this is exciting, and yeah, you know, 467 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 3: well just I'm going to keep studying it and updating everybody. 468 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 3: But thank you, Tom. I appreciate it. 469 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 6: No, not at all, And I do want to leave 470 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 6: you with one of the things. You know, there's things 471 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 6: that are I believe things that are evil will show 472 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 6: you right away. And the fact that you've had Kennedy 473 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 6: for a while and everything's good, fine, with the exception 474 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 6: of maybe our little recording tonight. I don't think he's evil, 475 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 6: at least not with you and Lauren. I don't think 476 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 6: he was with me, But I don't think that he 477 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 6: liked other people telling me, you know, you need to 478 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 6: get rid of him. 479 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 5: He's creepy. 480 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. I mean, like it 481 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 3: seems like that there are some bizarre technical things. As 482 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 3: a matter of fact, the camera that I have on 483 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 3: him right now has been malfunctioning, and then that's ever 484 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 3: happened before, So I guess that's just, you know, part 485 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 3: of the problem when it comes to trying to document 486 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 3: the pair of normal. I mean, you know, kind of 487 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 3: interferes with with with with the process. But well, we're 488 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 3: going to keep everybody updated. Yeah, Yeah, it's weird. 489 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 6: It's weird because you know, this stuff is not you know, 490 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 6: brain surgery in a record button yet Yeah, sure, things 491 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 6: are working, it's fine. And when you couldn't, you must 492 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 6: have called me seven times tonight, yeah, to get a 493 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 6: proper connection. And I just kept thinking, oh my god, 494 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 6: what is this. 495 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 3: I've never had that problem once. I mean I at 496 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 3: first I was like, is Tom missing with me? I've 497 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 3: never had that issue at all. So, yeah, there's something 498 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 3: happening here. So I think it's going to be really interesting, 499 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 3: h to keep everybody updated on what kind of mysterious 500 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 3: phenomena occurs around Kennedy and uh, Josh. 501 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 6: I think I think that you, I and Lauren are 502 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 6: in as good graces I. 503 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 3: Will say, I sure, hope. So well, very cool. Well, 504 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 3: Well thank you Tom, I appreciate it. 505 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 5: My friend Josh, thanks for having me on strange things. 506 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: Now. 507 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 3: I know you all are dying to hear more about 508 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 3: how Kennedy looks. And by the way, the night that 509 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 3: I received and Lauren and I took him out of 510 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 3: the box, we put him in a chair and took 511 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 3: a picture of him, and I sent it to my 512 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 3: mom and my mom texted back that thing is creepy. 513 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 3: I would get rid of that demonic looking thing. So 514 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,240 Speaker 3: that's the reaction that my mom had. But I, Lauren 515 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:22,479 Speaker 3: and I we definitely we were getting a good vibe 516 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 3: off him. But here we go. So Kennedy is. He 517 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 3: looks to be like a standard size ventriloquist doll, except 518 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 3: he has a very thick torso, his skin is sort 519 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 3: of light pink. He has cold black hair. He has 520 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 3: these eyes that look kind of mischievous. He has a 521 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 3: couple of kind of sharp black eyebrows, and his eyes, 522 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 3: his eyes are just a little bit squinty, and he's 523 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 3: got these kind of odd eyelashes drawn around his eyes. 524 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 3: But his eyes look incredibly realistic. When you look right 525 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 3: into his eyes, they're kind of penetrating. And he's got 526 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 3: this he's got red lips and this big wide grin 527 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 3: on his face, with these slightly rosy cheeks. He's wearing 528 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 3: a little plaid vest with the burgundy tie. He's got 529 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:26,399 Speaker 3: some dark trousers on. 530 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 1: We actually bought him some nice new little shoes. 531 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 3: He's but he's wearing a white shirt, you know, So 532 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 3: he looks he looks like a very well dressed little man. 533 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 3: And the thing is, he also has kind of like 534 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 3: this smirk on his face. And you know how that 535 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 3: usually these types of dolls are used in an act 536 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 3: to be like a little smarty pants, so it's not 537 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 3: unusual for the doll to have a sarcastic look. But 538 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 3: he looks realistic enough that when we first got him 539 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,479 Speaker 3: and we had him sitting in the chair, every time 540 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 3: I would walk into the room and look over and 541 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 3: like I kind of forget that he was there, and 542 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 3: I'd look over and see him, and it would startle 543 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 3: me because I felt like there was a person sitting 544 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 3: in the house. And as I mentioned before, when we 545 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 3: first got him, he wasn't completely assembled. You could take 546 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 3: his head out of his body, and it has all 547 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 3: these levers all over it, and one lever controls his 548 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 3: eyebrows going up and down. The other one controls his 549 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 3: eyes moving back and forth, and then he's got one 550 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 3: for opening and closing his eyes. 551 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 1: And his mouth. And I mean, it's just. 552 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 3: Really, really well made. And I do believe this is 553 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 3: a professional doll. And I'm going to try to figure 554 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,959 Speaker 3: out who made him. I know a guy I haven't 555 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 3: talked to him in years. Here's a professional puppeteer. I'm 556 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 3: going to see if I can get in touch with 557 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 3: him to give you his insight on who may have 558 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 3: made this doll. Where did this doll come from? But honestly, 559 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 3: since we've had at him, nothing terrible has happened. But 560 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 3: I do have him under surveillance twenty four to seven. 561 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 3: We have instruments on him, and I just hope the 562 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 3: energy stays positive. But I'm going to be keeping you 563 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 3: updated on this, and I am just delighted to have 564 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:20,359 Speaker 3: Kennedy and I think it's just amazing that Tom sent 565 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 3: me this and now I can study it and tell 566 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 3: all of you about it. So trust me, there's going 567 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 3: to be more to come, and there's going to be 568 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 3: more to come on this show. In our next segment, 569 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you about this very haunted property 570 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 3: that I investigated last night. 571 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 1: I'm Joshua P. 572 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 3: Warren, and you are listening to Strange Things on the 573 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 3: iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network, and 574 00:37:48,000 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 3: I will be right back. Welcome back to the final 575 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,320 Speaker 3: segment of this edition of Strange Things on the iHeartRadio 576 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 3: and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I am 577 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,800 Speaker 3: your host, Joshua P. Warren, and I was so wrapped 578 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 3: up and looking at the picture of Kennedy, the Haunted 579 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 3: doll and describing him, that I forgot to tell you 580 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,360 Speaker 3: how you can just go look at a picture of 581 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 3: him yourself. Go to Joshua pe Warren dot com. There 582 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 3: is no period after the p at Joshua P. Warren 583 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,840 Speaker 3: dot com. Click the link to the Curiosity Shop. Scroll 584 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 3: and you will find a picture of Kennedy somewhere on 585 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,279 Speaker 3: that page. You can't miss him. And you know white 586 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:13,959 Speaker 3: else while you are there, if you purchase something, guess 587 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 3: what's gonna happen. I've got some great news, believe it 588 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 3: or not. Our little dog Lama is still alive and 589 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 3: she is doing much better than anybody ever expected. I 590 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 3: was prepared to give you some bad news with this recording. 591 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 3: But I'm telling you, I mean, it's almost starting to 592 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,800 Speaker 3: border on miraculous. So many of you have gone to 593 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 3: the Curiosity Shop and you've purchased things. All the money 594 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 3: goes to her medical care. You've been praying, people have 595 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 3: been sending various gifts that might help her. I mean, 596 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 3: I it's honestly starting to border on miraculous, and so 597 00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 3: at a certain point, I do want to tell all 598 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 3: of you exactly every specific thing that we've done and 599 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,399 Speaker 3: people who have helped us specifically along the way, so 600 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 3: that if your pet is having trouble, especially severe trouble, 601 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 3: I mean, like on death's door, I feel obligated to 602 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 3: share this information with you. So thank you, Thank you, 603 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 3: keep the prayers coming, and again, please please go to 604 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 3: Joshua Pee warrener dot com, go to that Curiosity Shop 605 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 3: and know that any dollar you spend is going to 606 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 3: an excellent cause. I wish we had more time, but 607 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 3: we don't, So let me jump straight into what I 608 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 3: did last night. I have a friend who shoots videos 609 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 3: on YouTube. They're very popular videos. His name is Danny 610 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 3: the Medic because he actually is a paramedic. So if 611 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,240 Speaker 3: you go to YouTube and you just type in Danny 612 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 3: d A n n Y Danny the Medic. You can 613 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 3: see the videos that he does that are often focused 614 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:56,840 Speaker 3: on the Las Vegas area, and they're very insightful, they're funny, 615 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,400 Speaker 3: and like I say, he's got a very popular ch channel. 616 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 3: So he wanted to do something spooky for Halloween, and 617 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 3: I told him that, well, if we were to get 618 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 3: together and investigate a haunted room, we should probably do 619 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 3: it at the Flamingo. Because long story short, the Flamingo, 620 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,240 Speaker 3: which opened on December twenty sixth of nineteen forty six, 621 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:31,799 Speaker 3: became the model for today's like lavish hotel casino on 622 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 3: the strip. I mean, that was what everything else after 623 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 3: the Flamingo tried to live up to Flamingos standards. And 624 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 3: one of the reasons that place was so lavish was 625 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:48,360 Speaker 3: because it was very expensive to put together. And the 626 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:52,280 Speaker 3: guy who kind of came in and finalized that whole 627 00:41:52,320 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 3: project was the infamous mobster Bugsy Siegel. Bugsy Siegel was 628 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,359 Speaker 3: one of the most famous gangsters of his day, and 629 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 3: when he got involved with the Flamingo, he was, you know, 630 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 3: around his early forties. He was just a brutal murderer 631 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,799 Speaker 3: and he was connected to just about every vice you 632 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 3: can imagine, and yet he was very popular in the press. 633 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 3: He always wore nice suits, and he was, you know, 634 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 3: he was the class kind of like gangster, live in 635 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:29,799 Speaker 3: the high life kind of thing, even though he was 636 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 3: a wicked man. And so he was involved with the 637 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 3: mob money and murder Incorporated and all that, and so 638 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 3: he got an enormous amount of mob money there to 639 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 3: finish up that project. But it didn't open as well 640 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:48,399 Speaker 3: as was expected. He was there managing it the whole time, 641 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 3: and Buggsy Segull. He hated to be called bugsy. His 642 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,800 Speaker 3: name was Benjamin, but they called him bugsy because he 643 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 3: killed a lot of people. 644 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:56,760 Speaker 1: With his own hands. 645 00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 3: And everybody said he was crazy as a bedbug when 646 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 3: he got mad, whatever that means. But he had his 647 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 3: own penthouse there he would stay in, and he had 648 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 3: so many enemies that there was only one doorway and 649 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 3: only one entrance into his suite, but there were five 650 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 3: hidden exits. One of them was through a closet where 651 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,479 Speaker 3: he would slide down this ladder basically where he would 652 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 3: keep a limo driver waiting twenty four hours a day, 653 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,879 Speaker 3: seven days a week, you know, to get him out 654 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 3: of there, and so there was a lot of dark 655 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:35,759 Speaker 3: energy around the Flamingo. And at some point, not long 656 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 3: I mean less than a year after it opened, the 657 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 3: other gangsters who were, you know, bankrolling a lot of 658 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:45,239 Speaker 3: this stuff, Maya Lankski and such. They said that, well, 659 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 3: a lot of them believed that he was in bezzling 660 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 3: money and that was a big no no. So when 661 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:55,240 Speaker 3: he was forty one years old, Bugsy Siegel was sitting 662 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 3: at his girlfriend's house in Beverly Hills in the evening 663 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 3: reading a newspaper and somebody came outside, came up to 664 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 3: the house outside the window with a rifle and shot 665 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:11,400 Speaker 3: him multiple times and killed him. One bullet actually knocked 666 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 3: his left eyeball out of his head, so he died instantly, 667 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,480 Speaker 3: and that murder has never been solved. Everybody said that 668 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,279 Speaker 3: so many people wanted to kill him, it would be 669 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:25,319 Speaker 3: impossible to solve that murder. So what's interesting is that 670 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 3: as soon as that happened, a lot of people started, 671 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:32,239 Speaker 3: you know, they stopped talking about Bugsy Siegel because they thought, well, 672 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,880 Speaker 3: we don't want to be associated with that. But times 673 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 3: have changed, and so now there's actually a garden behind 674 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,399 Speaker 3: the Flamingo and it has flamingos in it, and they 675 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 3: have a chapel there, and they have a little memorial 676 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 3: with a plaque dedicated to Bugsy Siegel, and people see 677 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 3: the ghost of Bugsy Siegel walking around that little garden 678 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:55,319 Speaker 3: all the time, but also all over the property, and 679 00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,319 Speaker 3: there have been dozens of reports of guests and employees 680 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 3: seeing these gangster apparitions in their rooms at night. Whether 681 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 3: or not it actually is Bugsy Seagull is hard to say, 682 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:10,600 Speaker 3: because Buggsy Seagull probably was always haunted by a lot 683 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 3: of these unre unrestful spirits anyway that he had helped 684 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 3: to provide by being a murderer, so that the property 685 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 3: was always haunted by those types of beings. But you know, 686 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,799 Speaker 3: and then there was a maid who said that one 687 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 3: time she heard this guy screaming bloody murder, like he 688 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,879 Speaker 3: was being tortured, and when the rooms and she got 689 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,439 Speaker 3: security and went in, but there was nobody in there. 690 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,439 Speaker 3: The stories go on and on. How about that whole 691 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 3: property being haunted? So Danny and I got together last 692 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,880 Speaker 3: night and I brought some of my best equipment and 693 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,400 Speaker 3: we sat down in his room and we shot some 694 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:53,719 Speaker 3: video and I did some tests, and let me tell 695 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 3: you right off the bat, the first thing that happened 696 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,759 Speaker 3: was Danny has shot I'm sure hundreds of videos, if 697 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 3: not over one thousand, and as soon as we sit 698 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,760 Speaker 3: down and start talking about this, the audio starts cutting 699 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,760 Speaker 3: in and out. Everything starts glitching. Even he was amazed, 700 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,240 Speaker 3: and he says, he's a man of science. Okay, he's 701 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 3: a medic, he's not a ghost enthusiast. 702 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:15,720 Speaker 1: Even he was amazed. 703 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 3: And after that we started getting some very strange readings 704 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:23,399 Speaker 3: on theF meters. I had a thermal camera. There got 705 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 3: some very interesting hot spots and cold spots. So I 706 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 3: don't know what all the results are going to show us. 707 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,279 Speaker 3: I can tell you that I did not see the 708 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 3: ghost of a gangster up here in the room last night. 709 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,600 Speaker 3: But what I will tell you is that I have 710 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 3: not seen this finished segment yet. And he said that 711 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 3: he is going to release it on October the thirty first. 712 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 3: So I don't know when you're listening to this podcast, 713 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 3: but if if it's after October the thirty first, twenty 714 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,320 Speaker 3: twenty three on or after, well then go to YouTube 715 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 3: and look up Danny the Medic and you'll find that 716 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,839 Speaker 3: as one of his most recent videodeos. But I find that, 717 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 3: you know, at a place like that, you might go 718 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,480 Speaker 3: in and say, well, maybe this room isn't haunted, maybe 719 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:16,719 Speaker 3: that room isn't. But once you start talking about these things, 720 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:21,480 Speaker 3: that alone can bring that energy in. Because the spiritual 721 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,600 Speaker 3: realm is not always necessarily tied down to a particular 722 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 3: place or a particular time. You can access it mentally 723 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:36,360 Speaker 3: at any time from anywhere. And it seems like it 724 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,400 Speaker 3: doesn't matter what you believe or you don't believe, that 725 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:45,920 Speaker 3: there is always something that at least affects your equipment 726 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,439 Speaker 3: and your instruments when you start bringing up this kind 727 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 3: of material. And that's why I say that's been a 728 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 3: hallmark of this particular show. So check out Danny's video 729 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,960 Speaker 3: and I could sit here and talk to you more 730 00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,560 Speaker 3: and more and more about creepy things related to the 731 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 3: Mob and the Flamingo, But ultimately I do love the Flamingo. 732 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:10,440 Speaker 3: It's a great place, and I recommend you check it out. Also, 733 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 3: in less than a month, the new Duringo Casino opens 734 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 3: in my neck at the Woods, and I'm looking forward 735 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,360 Speaker 3: to telling you more about that. All right, my friends, 736 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:24,360 Speaker 3: I hope you have enjoyed this special spooky edition of 737 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,040 Speaker 3: the show. I will let you know how things go 738 00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 3: with Kennedy the Doll. Maybe we'll find out more about 739 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 3: who he is and where he's from and all that 740 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 3: kind of thing. But now it is time, as we 741 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 3: often do, to try to like clear our minds, breathe 742 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,279 Speaker 3: in something positive. Take a deep breath if you can, 743 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 3: close your eyes if you can, let's all listen together 744 00:48:51,040 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 3: to the good Fortune tone. That's it for this edition 745 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,640 Speaker 3: of the show. Follow me on Twitter at Joshua P. 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