WEBVTT - Reviewing 2023 in Golf with Shane Bacon and Kyle Porter

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<v Speaker 1>I miss a green, for example, I'm already upset. When

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<v Speaker 1>I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I find my.

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<v Speaker 3>Ball in a brid egg Frida egg, the dreaded Frida

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<v Speaker 3>egg Frida egg, Frida egg bride.

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<v Speaker 4>Egg, Lie, I'm about ready to run off the golf course.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome back to another edition of the Friday Golf Podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>I am your host, Andy Johnson, and uh oh, it's

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<v Speaker 4>great to be back. I apologize to listeners. I had

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<v Speaker 4>to take a little hiatus from the podcast. My October

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<v Speaker 4>late September was just absolutely crazy. I would some might

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<v Speaker 4>say I was a little over subscribed with the travel

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<v Speaker 4>and different things that I needed to get done. So

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<v Speaker 4>I needed to take a little break from the pod.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm excited to be back. I'm excited to have

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<v Speaker 4>things slow down from the travel standpoint a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>in the coming weeks and through the end of the

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<v Speaker 4>year so I can get back down and focused on

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<v Speaker 4>producing episodes of this podcast. So I saw a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of cool stuff, lots of great golf courses, lots of

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<v Speaker 4>awesome events that I went to and really excited to,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, share some of those experiences. But to get

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<v Speaker 4>things back up and running with me. Obviously, Garrett's been

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<v Speaker 4>holding down the pod, producing some really really great episodes

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<v Speaker 4>that I've enjoyed listening to. I had Shane Bacon and

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<v Speaker 4>Kyle Porter come on. It's kind of like the idea

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<v Speaker 4>of this podcast was just to have some fun talk

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<v Speaker 4>about twenty twenty three in the Gulf. With the Ryder

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<v Speaker 4>Cup ending, it is kind of, you know, it kind

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<v Speaker 4>of feels like the end of the golf year. I know,

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<v Speaker 4>the LPGA's in European Tour and Champions Tour, I guess

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<v Speaker 4>are still cooking, but want to kind of talk about

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<v Speaker 4>all the stuff that's happened this year while it's fresh

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<v Speaker 4>in our mind. So the topic for this podcast is

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<v Speaker 4>to rank the five people or you know, loosely people

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<v Speaker 4>that twenty twenty three has been best to And I

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<v Speaker 4>think we covered a lot of different ground, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>had a lot of conversations with about things that I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't expect to have and it was it was great fun.

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<v Speaker 4>So thanks to Kyle Porter and Shane. I highly recommend

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<v Speaker 4>following them and getting all their different content. We talk

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<v Speaker 4>about it at the end of the pod as well.

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<v Speaker 4>But thanks for their time and for them to come

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<v Speaker 4>on and talk with us. All right, well we are

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<v Speaker 4>back with another show. I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 3>Here is that your intro? And we're back with another

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<v Speaker 3>show with some people, with some people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, this is gonna how I'm lockcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Turn it off, Go do something more productive with your life.

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<v Speaker 4>It's gonna be it's gonna be a pod. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 4>be a podcast. It's it's gonna be a little off

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<v Speaker 4>the wall. We're back. I haven't been on the pod

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<v Speaker 4>in like a month. I've been taking a little hiatus,

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<v Speaker 4>a little recharge. I haven't been recharging. I've been depleting myself.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm back and I want to have a little fun.

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<v Speaker 4>So we're We got Shane Bacon and Kyle Porter, two

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<v Speaker 4>great golf mindes, two great golf personalities, men of many,

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<v Speaker 4>many talents. Right now, Kyle looks like he's the offense

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<v Speaker 4>coordinator of the Miami Dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>I need like a a headset or something.

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<v Speaker 3>You gotta have those. You have those. McDaniel joggers on,

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<v Speaker 3>I do, I actually do.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I didn't. I didn't plan that, but I do.

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<v Speaker 2>We were playing fourth grade five football the other day. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you guys will love this the coach of the other team.

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<v Speaker 2>You get to you get to be on the field

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<v Speaker 2>when you're calm plays. So you got the little I've

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<v Speaker 2>got the playbook right here. I mean, I can send

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<v Speaker 2>this to you guys if you need it, if you

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<v Speaker 2>need it for future use. But the coach of the

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<v Speaker 2>other team has one AirPod in just one. And I

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<v Speaker 2>looked at I looked at my buddy that I coached with,

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<v Speaker 2>and I said, do you think he's do you think

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<v Speaker 2>he's getting plays from the from the from the booth,

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<v Speaker 2>like do you think he's got a green Does he

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<v Speaker 2>have a green sticker on his hat and he can

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<v Speaker 2>receive them play there's some guy.

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<v Speaker 3>There's some guy sit in the back of his truck

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<v Speaker 3>a little higher than everybody else. Well, they played lived

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<v Speaker 3>down on the field.

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<v Speaker 4>I recently had a neighbor asked me about my drone

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<v Speaker 4>and was asking me about if if I thought it

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<v Speaker 4>could be useful for uh like uh, young football, Like

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what the youth football if if I

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<v Speaker 4>if I thought we could there's possibility to record things

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<v Speaker 4>with a drone so they could replay it. And I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, you know, I think that's possible, but that's

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<v Speaker 4>not so. Maybe that was it may he was communicating

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<v Speaker 4>with the drone pilot.

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<v Speaker 2>We played a team last year that how did they

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<v Speaker 2>ran a drone over the field they were watching They

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<v Speaker 2>were doing film of like third grade five football. It

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<v Speaker 2>was I told you poorath about this. He said that

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<v Speaker 2>they had like a lacrosse or something where they did

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<v Speaker 2>the same. It's it's out of control. You think pr

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<v Speaker 2>emails are out of control, Shane, fourth grade five football

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<v Speaker 2>is out of control.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you're in Texas. You're in the heart of it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're in Texas.

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<v Speaker 3>Every email is out my school emails. Yesterday I told

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<v Speaker 3>my wife it was Monday morning. I got a school

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<v Speaker 3>email where they on the third paragraph to find what

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<v Speaker 3>diarrhea was like literally hoppy pasted the terminology. I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>that's a nice way to start your Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I'm taking control of this.

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<v Speaker 4>We're moving away from this.

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<v Speaker 1>This is we're already off the rails. We're three minutes in.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the topic of today's podcast and why I

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<v Speaker 4>brought these two a steam people on is we're talking

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<v Speaker 4>about the five people who have had the best year.

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<v Speaker 4>We each came up with a list of five. Mine

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<v Speaker 4>might be four until the moment I have to hit

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<v Speaker 4>the fourth the fourth person. But the people that have

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<v Speaker 4>had the best year in golf in twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 4>that golf spend the best too in twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 4>So we each came up with a five person list

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<v Speaker 4>and uh, and we're going to go from there.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's if you would, If.

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<v Speaker 3>You would, I would like to lead off onto my

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<v Speaker 3>number five. If that's okay with you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's is since you asked for it, you can have.

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<v Speaker 5>The okay, go ahead, go with KP.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you're asking two things. I want to know y'all's

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<v Speaker 2>process and then two can I can I do? Honorable?

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<v Speaker 5>Process is still happening, so it's real time.

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<v Speaker 2>I was.

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<v Speaker 3>I looked at results for the year in terms of

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<v Speaker 3>tournament golf, and then I was, it's funny I scrolled

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<v Speaker 3>through podcasts. So I scrolled through like a few of

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<v Speaker 3>the popular golf podcasts to see who'd come on on

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<v Speaker 3>why they'd come on for the year, Like was there

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<v Speaker 3>something I was missing? Which I actually got one of

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<v Speaker 3>my five off the list from but I was trying. No,

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't get Flocky didn't make my list. Andy I was,

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<v Speaker 3>Andy asked us to try to not just focus on

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<v Speaker 3>the golfer golfer people and try to kind of think

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit outside the box. So KP, I was

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<v Speaker 3>trying my hardest to hit at least a few different

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<v Speaker 3>genres of golf person, if you will.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's that was kind of mine as well. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you have an honorable mention? Shane?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I I cut it all the way down to five.

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<v Speaker 3>I listened to h to our bosses instructions.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you got to go with honorable mentions after

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<v Speaker 4>after the okay, so after the five because one of

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<v Speaker 4>your honorable mentions might be on our list of five.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Andy showed up to the pod. How many minutes in

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<v Speaker 3>are we? We're five minutes, five minutes.

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<v Speaker 5>Andy's here now.

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<v Speaker 3>Now he's done well.

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<v Speaker 2>And to be clear with the way this went down

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<v Speaker 2>is is Andy asked us to to go through this exercise,

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<v Speaker 2>and Shane and I are just you know, we've got kids,

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<v Speaker 2>and we've got a bunch of stuff. And when we

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<v Speaker 2>you know, my Rangers are in the World series, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we we get the work done, we go

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<v Speaker 2>through it, and then we and then we show up

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<v Speaker 2>and andies, I don't know, I got like three and

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<v Speaker 2>a half.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I'm four.

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<v Speaker 1>I have trouble making decisions.

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<v Speaker 3>The instructions are five. He's got four. Hey, you know what, Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>it's close enough.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna pick.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna pick up a fifth while we're talking. That's

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<v Speaker 4>the thing. I'm keeping a spot open.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like the like the team that's keeping a spot

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<v Speaker 4>open and free agency.

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<v Speaker 1>We aren't set on our team.

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<v Speaker 4>We're gonna wait to see who gets bought out, and

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<v Speaker 4>we're gonna bring them on at a at a low cost.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I ask you guys a question when you do

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<v Speaker 3>these podcasts? How often are you looking at the other

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<v Speaker 3>people versus looking at yourself?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you guys?

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<v Speaker 5>What would you guys say? The process is?

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<v Speaker 2>I think about this all the time. I think I

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<v Speaker 2>I think I do better when you can turn your

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<v Speaker 2>your own view off.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep. I cover myself with my notes, by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I do too, Colin, Can you.

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<v Speaker 2>Turn it off on? Here? There's some software where you

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<v Speaker 2>can can you can block yourself, which I think is

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<v Speaker 2>way better because you're not it's weird to look at yourself, right.

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<v Speaker 5>I hate it.

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<v Speaker 4>I hate it so much for how much I pay

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<v Speaker 4>for this service, you should be able to turn it off.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go, I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they would want me to do adrees

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<v Speaker 1>for them.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Andy, my number five, I'm gonna start us

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<v Speaker 3>off here. Five people in golf. What did you say

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<v Speaker 3>that had the best year in golf?

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<v Speaker 2>That?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, just like the best best year, you know, the

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<v Speaker 4>just in terms of you know, twenty twenty three has

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<v Speaker 4>treated them well.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, My number five is a guy I'm a fan

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<v Speaker 3>of and I've been a fan of for a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>Number five on my list, Andy Johnson, been a.

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<v Speaker 5>Big year for the Egg. Wow for Andy.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like this has kind of been the breakout year,

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<v Speaker 3>the glow up year, if you will.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, he's shooting commercials the other day.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw at his house he played Augusta National this year.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, how do you have a better twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 3>three than that?

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<v Speaker 1>I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm by the way on the call here, I'm the

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<v Speaker 3>only person on the call that hasn't played Augusta National.

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<v Speaker 3>But uh yeah, I just say the Egg in general,

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<v Speaker 3>the brand, the shotgun start, the popularity of of what

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<v Speaker 3>Andy's been able to do has I felt like taking

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<v Speaker 3>a big leap in twenty three, so Andy Johnson my

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<v Speaker 3>number one.

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<v Speaker 1>We got we gotta move on.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, no, no, no, I want to I want to give

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<v Speaker 2>you an opportunity here because I know you don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about yourself, so I want to give you

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<v Speaker 2>an opportunity to attribute that to somebody else within uh,

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<v Speaker 2>within the egg, because I know there's a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>people behind the scenes. So I'm in front of the scenes.

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<v Speaker 2>But how do you what do you because I agree

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<v Speaker 2>with Shane, but what do you attribute that to?

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<v Speaker 4>I always say that you hire people that are smarter

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<v Speaker 4>and more talented than you, so you know, just in general,

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<v Speaker 4>it's been a long, long road. A lot of people

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<v Speaker 4>here that are listening probably listened to early episodes of

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<v Speaker 4>the pod when I was recording Skype calls with my

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<v Speaker 4>cell phone and that over the speakers of my laptop,

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<v Speaker 4>and that was that was the podcast audio, right like it.

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<v Speaker 4>But I didn't know how to do anything, so I'm

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<v Speaker 4>figuring it out. So at this point, I mean, like

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<v Speaker 4>you look at it. You know, we went from me

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<v Speaker 4>editing video and that was like me learning how to

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<v Speaker 4>edit video, which was like I'm bad at it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not good at it, but I was editing video.

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<v Speaker 4>Now we have Matt Rush's and Cameron Hurtis who who

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<v Speaker 4>produce our videos, and it's like I don't even open

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<v Speaker 4>video editing software anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>Whether it's Garrett and what he's done with with this

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<v Speaker 4>pod and you know, the written stuff, and or Brendan

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<v Speaker 4>what he's brought. You know, there's a million things. Will

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<v Speaker 4>runs our events right, It's it's impossib well, Meg runs

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<v Speaker 4>everything in the pro shop. It's just you know, honestly

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<v Speaker 4>hiring people that are better at things than you, and

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<v Speaker 4>you know, identifying that they're better. It's the big thing

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<v Speaker 4>I think is like I'm an idiot. I'm not very

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<v Speaker 4>good at a lot of stuff. But you know, so

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<v Speaker 4>I just have to find people that are better than

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<v Speaker 4>me at stuff and then and then have them run

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<v Speaker 4>that part of the business and and then I, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I get to do what I do.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, can I ask the both of you guys

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<v Speaker 3>a question? I mean, you guys are are golf people obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean you've been doing this for a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>You get the note that you're playing Augusta because I mean, Kyle,

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<v Speaker 3>you had it what three four years ago?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that right?

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Kyle? Kyle, Kyle's the one that told me Kyle

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<v Speaker 1>blew the surprise.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean when you're coaching, sometimes you got to

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<v Speaker 3>let people in on that.

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<v Speaker 4>God, I will ahead from a day out of the

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<v Speaker 4>golf course.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, congratulations.

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<v Speaker 5>But I mean, you know, like we could be cynical

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<v Speaker 5>about a lot of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, what is that first he experience, Like, I'd

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<v Speaker 3>like to hear from you first, But I mean, as

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<v Speaker 3>cynical as we can be about the game and as

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<v Speaker 3>much as we can roll our eyes about the stuff

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<v Speaker 3>that's happened over the last year and a half, has

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<v Speaker 3>there been a better, more like holy crap moment than

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<v Speaker 3>first tea? There going all right, here we go.

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<v Speaker 2>That's up there, I think. I think walking into the

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<v Speaker 2>Champions locker room is up there also, right because it's

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<v Speaker 2>such a and I presume they still do that, Andy,

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know how much we were even allowed

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about this.

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<v Speaker 1>But I forgot who. I forgot who my champions I had.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a non descript Champions lockers That's how bad

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<v Speaker 1>it was.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I was waiting for this so good, that is

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<v Speaker 2>so good. I think. I think the I think the

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<v Speaker 2>hard part about first t and even into the round,

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<v Speaker 2>but also like the cool part is it feels you've

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<v Speaker 2>seen that course, You've seen those holes so many times

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<v Speaker 2>that it almost feels like you're it almost feels like

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<v Speaker 2>you're watching a movie of yourself as you're at you're

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<v Speaker 2>acting it as you're like living it out. And that

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<v Speaker 2>that that that was the part that was I think

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<v Speaker 2>the most surreal for me was like having like putting

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<v Speaker 2>myself into this almost set movie set if you will,

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<v Speaker 2>that I've seen ten thousand times like that that made it,

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<v Speaker 2>it almost made it difficult to play, but it made

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<v Speaker 2>this the entire experience very surreal.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean I would agree with a lot of that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I wrote this and the thing that I wrote, but

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<v Speaker 4>like it honestly, like I was like nervous. It was

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<v Speaker 4>like I felt like I was teeing off in like

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<v Speaker 4>a us AM qualifier, right, Like I was like I

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<v Speaker 4>had this like I'm the first tea. I was like, God,

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<v Speaker 4>you gotta heart, Like you know, it's just it's crazy,

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<v Speaker 4>like I've honestly it felt like I played a tournament

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<v Speaker 4>where like I'm I'm an habitual slow starter and tournament golf.

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<v Speaker 4>And I got off to a really bad start at Augusta,

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<v Speaker 4>and like then I.

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<v Speaker 1>Started to play really well, which is like my tournament golf.

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<v Speaker 3>Mo.

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly liken it to that.

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<v Speaker 4>I think, like, as Kyle said, like it's a super

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<v Speaker 4>hard experience to rate, like quantitatively, because of how many

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<v Speaker 4>memories flood into your brain from like your childhood, your

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<v Speaker 4>you know, coming of age moments in life watching the Masters,

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<v Speaker 4>or you know, in your twenties. And and I think

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<v Speaker 4>that's like the thing that's just so hard to It's

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<v Speaker 4>just an amazing thing. And then and then like before

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it's over right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Andy, Andy, how many times did you how many

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<v Speaker 3>times were you on a hole going I know, Woozy

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<v Speaker 3>hit it here before. I remember when Woozy was here

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<v Speaker 3>in seventy nine.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, twelve, Yeah, I did, Ayby tell you the story

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<v Speaker 4>about the Japanese reporter who had never played golf before

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<v Speaker 4>played with like an played Augusta National with just the

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<v Speaker 4>seven iron.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've heard. I think I think you did.

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<v Speaker 5>You might have you might have.

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<v Speaker 4>Told And she got to twelve and she asked the caddie, like,

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<v Speaker 4>what should I do here? And he was like, well,

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<v Speaker 4>you have to hit the seven iron, he's our only club,

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<v Speaker 4>and she hit it right into the lotter.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to, by the way, I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>a sidetrack on Augusta National playing Augusta National stories. But

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<v Speaker 3>I just I just Andy, you're my number five.

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<v Speaker 5>That's my list?

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<v Speaker 1>Insane.

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<v Speaker 4>I just figured out my my, my four, my number four.

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, is it woozy, No, it's not woozy. Kyle,

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<v Speaker 4>who's your number five?

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<v Speaker 2>I went, I went way off the board on all

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<v Speaker 2>of mine. I'm actually more excited about the honorable mention

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<v Speaker 2>than the actual list. But number five for me is

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<v Speaker 2>uh is newsletters. So this is a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a testament to Andy as well. But just I've never

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<v Speaker 2>been a big fan, I guess of newsletters. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>I'd always connotated like it's not it's not technology forward,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it feels like like a you know, eighty year

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<v Speaker 2>old writing jotting down a grocery list and sending it

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<v Speaker 2>to somebody. But I have found, maybe this year more

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<v Speaker 2>than ever, that my consumption of smart golf people and

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<v Speaker 2>golf news in general has come through newsletters. Whether it's

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<v Speaker 2>fried egg, whether it's La Manya, whether it's data Golf,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's the normal sporter, normal.

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<v Speaker 5>Sporter, Shackleford, there's Shackleford.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think that I think that's a really

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<v Speaker 2>and that's maybe a shift in media in general. But

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<v Speaker 2>I I felt it for the first time. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you've been doing the Fridagg newsletter Andy for seven years now,

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<v Speaker 2>but I felt it for the first time broadly within

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<v Speaker 2>the golf media landscape in twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you saying I was just seven years early?

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<v Speaker 2>I think so. Here's Yeah, I've always I've always said

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<v Speaker 2>you're ahead of the cultural curve. F you're you're way

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<v Speaker 2>ahead of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>The uh.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean newsletters are amazing because this is uh I've

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<v Speaker 4>obviously long believed in newsletters, but like the idea of

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<v Speaker 4>of somebody effectively cutting through all the noise for you

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<v Speaker 4>and giving it to you in in really easy you

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<v Speaker 4>don't have to go anywhere, right, you're checking your email.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a super intimate relationship to right, especially like good

0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:30.760
<v Speaker 4>newsletters do not sell you down a river, right, you're not,

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<v Speaker 4>but you know when something comes from them that it's

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<v Speaker 4>like something you want to open and you want to

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<v Speaker 4>engage with and you know, it's been uh, it's been neat.

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<v Speaker 4>I I I consume a lot of newsletters too. There's

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of great newsletters that aren't golf specific.

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<v Speaker 1>But there is.

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<v Speaker 3>There one that stands out to the both of you

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<v Speaker 3>that's not golf, that you guys look forward to or

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<v Speaker 3>that you read through every time.

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<v Speaker 2>I've allow got named named Nathan Barry. He runs a

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<v Speaker 2>company called convert Kit, which is kind of like a

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<v Speaker 2>it's like it's like a niche mail chimp. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>a it's a newsletter service. I actually don't use it,

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<v Speaker 2>but he has built that company, and I'm interested in

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<v Speaker 2>people who have entrepreneurial journeys like that. He's got a

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<v Speaker 2>really cool journey, and he writes smartly about the future

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<v Speaker 2>of business, future of email, all those different things. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think, to to Any's point, like the incentives and

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<v Speaker 2>when you have a newsletter, I think are more aligned

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<v Speaker 2>with the reader's incentives because when you have a website,

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<v Speaker 2>you're constantly trying to pull people in, pull people in,

0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:35.840
<v Speaker 2>and you're writing about John Rom's pink shirt twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>times a year, which is just nonsense, you know, And

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<v Speaker 2>and when you have a newsletter, you're trying to not

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<v Speaker 2>You're you're really attempting to not get people to unsubscribe,

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<v Speaker 2>and you have to make it aligns your incentives with

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<v Speaker 2>the reader's incentives, which is great, like providing value through

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<v Speaker 2>great content. And I think that's something that I've has

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<v Speaker 2>really hit home with me in so far this year.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I I completely agree. Right, if you're in somebody's

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<v Speaker 4>in box, you don't want to if you think about

0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:10.240
<v Speaker 4>it from like a consumer standpoint yourself, right, you don't

0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:14.439
<v Speaker 4>want to alienate that your your presence in somebody's You know,

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<v Speaker 4>there's nothing worse than when you keep getting emails and

0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:19.480
<v Speaker 4>you haven't hit unsubscribed yet, but you see no value

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<v Speaker 4>in it, right, Like as a consumer, I think one

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<v Speaker 4>recommendation I'd have is the the og of of the

0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:31.639
<v Speaker 4>email newsletter, the og of the sub stack model before

0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:36.359
<v Speaker 4>substack existed. Ben Thompson and his protect career, He's he

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<v Speaker 4>might he's one of the smartest guys on the Internet.

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<v Speaker 4>I I got to talk to him like five years ago,

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<v Speaker 4>and I was like, I think about that conversation so

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<v Speaker 4>many times. He's smart, such a smart guy. It's it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>Like when he started his business and and this is

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<v Speaker 4>now we aren't talking about golf at all. Well, he

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<v Speaker 4>told me, you know, he lives. I think he lives

0:20:56.160 --> 0:21:01.840
<v Speaker 4>in Thailand, Taiwan, Taiwan. He he wanted he was just

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<v Speaker 4>hoping to get a thousand subscribers at ten bucks a

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<v Speaker 4>month because then he knew he could he could live

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<v Speaker 4>how he wanted to live. And I would say that

0:21:10.680 --> 0:21:13.760
<v Speaker 4>he's probably got one of the most successful email newsletters

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<v Speaker 4>in the in the world now, So he's and I

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<v Speaker 4>think he's only got like one an assistant is the

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<v Speaker 4>only other staff member that he has, which is insane.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, do you do.

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<v Speaker 3>The Ziller newsletter? And you know you're big basketball guy.

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<v Speaker 3>That's kind of my good morning is basketball when it

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<v Speaker 3>is kind of the one I read through all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean there were so many good ones. I

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<v Speaker 3>love the golf ones. I mean we listed a few

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<v Speaker 3>that were awesome.

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<v Speaker 4>All Right, we're twenty minutes in and we haven't gotten

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<v Speaker 4>through five yet.

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<v Speaker 1>This it's great, you're number five.

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<v Speaker 4>I've got a number five is golf architects not named

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<v Speaker 4>Gil Hant, Corn Crenshaw or Tom Doak.

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<v Speaker 1>There's been insane. I like every day, I like find

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<v Speaker 1>out about a new golf course, and it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>And for years there were like three or four golf

0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:04.600
<v Speaker 4>courses built a year, and they all went to the

0:22:04.640 --> 0:22:07.760
<v Speaker 4>same guys other than like then you had like your

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<v Speaker 4>Discovery Fazio courses and and other you know, golf courses.

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<v Speaker 4>But now there's so many jobs that those guys can't

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<v Speaker 4>do all the jobs. And it's great for the up

0:22:17.240 --> 0:22:21.240
<v Speaker 4>and coming golf architects who now are getting chances to

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<v Speaker 4>build golf courses. So that's my number five. So it's

0:22:25.440 --> 0:22:28.840
<v Speaker 4>technically not one name. It's a collection of names, so

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<v Speaker 4>kind of it's.

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<v Speaker 5>It's your own list. It's your own list, and I'm

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<v Speaker 5>into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Number four, who's.

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<v Speaker 4>Up, Okay, I'll get snake in here.

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<v Speaker 2>My yeah, Well if we're snak and then you go, Andy.

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<v Speaker 4>Well you get you gotta go, well all today, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>whatever I'm gonna go.

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<v Speaker 2>My number four is, uh, my number four is the Mules.

0:22:52.560 --> 0:22:55.000
<v Speaker 2>The Mules with the PGA Tour had a great year.

0:22:56.320 --> 0:22:59.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that the fans had a great year.

0:22:59.320 --> 0:23:02.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that the partners had a great year.

0:23:02.400 --> 0:23:04.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that a lot of other entities had

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<v Speaker 2>a great year. But the Mules cleaned up because the

0:23:08.440 --> 0:23:10.639
<v Speaker 2>PGA Tour has never been more lucrative. I want you

0:23:10.640 --> 0:23:14.480
<v Speaker 2>guys to guess. So I've got I've got the list here.

0:23:14.800 --> 0:23:17.359
<v Speaker 2>I want you to guess. How much money do you think,

0:23:18.840 --> 0:23:21.520
<v Speaker 2>Let's say Grayson Sigg made on the PGA Tour this

0:23:21.640 --> 0:23:22.680
<v Speaker 2>year two million?

0:23:22.720 --> 0:23:24.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean yeah, I was gonna say two point.

0:23:24.600 --> 0:23:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Five one point four million. He was the one hundred

0:23:27.920 --> 0:23:33.960
<v Speaker 2>and tenth ranked player in terms of money distributed. And

0:23:34.240 --> 0:23:38.320
<v Speaker 2>obviously a lot of this has been caused by live

0:23:38.600 --> 0:23:41.160
<v Speaker 2>and a bunch of other factors, but it has never

0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:45.600
<v Speaker 2>been you know, and I think there's a The situation

0:23:45.720 --> 0:23:49.119
<v Speaker 2>that we're in has come about because every vote counts

0:23:49.160 --> 0:23:52.399
<v Speaker 2>the same, and that's maybe not always best for the fans,

0:23:52.480 --> 0:23:56.639
<v Speaker 2>but man, it is really really good for players that

0:23:57.000 --> 0:24:00.080
<v Speaker 2>honestly don't do a lot. They create no value on

0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:03.480
<v Speaker 2>the PGA Tour, but they also don't really perform that

0:24:03.600 --> 0:24:07.320
<v Speaker 2>well on the PGA Tour. I mean, just everybody that

0:24:07.560 --> 0:24:10.240
<v Speaker 2>was Let's see how many people made a million dollars?

0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:13.680
<v Speaker 2>The top one thirty all made over a million dollars,

0:24:14.280 --> 0:24:19.200
<v Speaker 2>which is just it's it's astonishing if you think about

0:24:19.600 --> 0:24:22.600
<v Speaker 2>where the tour was at even ten years ago, even

0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:25.159
<v Speaker 2>five years ago compared to where it is now. So

0:24:26.560 --> 0:24:28.400
<v Speaker 2>that's my number four is the mules had a great,

0:24:28.520 --> 0:24:29.760
<v Speaker 2>great year on the PGA.

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<v Speaker 4>Tour, all right, this hits perfectly and my recently selected

0:24:33.960 --> 0:24:37.879
<v Speaker 4>fourth pick here, he's not a mule.

0:24:38.000 --> 0:24:41.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say he's not a mule. Eric Cole is

0:24:41.600 --> 0:24:42.840
<v Speaker 1>or he had.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I think this is just one of the

0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:49.359
<v Speaker 4>most amazing PGA Tour stories of the year when you

0:24:49.400 --> 0:24:52.040
<v Speaker 4>look at it in totality. Is he gonna win any

0:24:52.080 --> 0:24:56.040
<v Speaker 4>personality contests? No, but this is literally like the the

0:24:56.080 --> 0:24:59.480
<v Speaker 4>American dream of golf, right, this is what everybody dreams about.

0:24:59.520 --> 0:25:02.359
<v Speaker 4>This is what people grind for, this is what you

0:25:02.400 --> 0:25:06.320
<v Speaker 4>know they do. So Eric Cole, this year he finished

0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:09.479
<v Speaker 4>forty third in the FedEx Cup. Do you guys know

0:25:09.560 --> 0:25:10.640
<v Speaker 4>how much money he made?

0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:13.600
<v Speaker 1>This is? I mean without the bonus.

0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:15.800
<v Speaker 3>I've oh, without the bonus four and a half million.

0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:18.919
<v Speaker 1>Really close. You were right on the money.

0:25:19.000 --> 0:25:22.840
<v Speaker 4>With the start it's four point nine million, so he

0:25:22.920 --> 0:25:26.880
<v Speaker 4>made five effectively five million plus and then a bonus

0:25:26.920 --> 0:25:27.240
<v Speaker 4>on there.

0:25:27.359 --> 0:25:28.640
<v Speaker 1>And he's continued.

0:25:28.680 --> 0:25:31.119
<v Speaker 4>I think he finished second last week, so you know

0:25:31.240 --> 0:25:34.480
<v Speaker 4>that's in there, I think already. But so he's made

0:25:34.520 --> 0:25:38.040
<v Speaker 4>five million dollars. At twenty twenty three. Two years ago,

0:25:38.200 --> 0:25:40.720
<v Speaker 4>he was playing on the Minor League Golf Tour, which

0:25:40.720 --> 0:25:44.960
<v Speaker 4>he had played on from two thousand and nine, so

0:25:45.000 --> 0:25:46.960
<v Speaker 4>he would he had been playing on the Minor League

0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:50.240
<v Speaker 4>Tour since two thousand and nine. He was on a

0:25:50.320 --> 0:25:52.560
<v Speaker 4>list that nobody wants to be on, which is the

0:25:52.960 --> 0:25:55.399
<v Speaker 4>career earnings list of the Minor League Tour. He was

0:25:55.480 --> 0:25:58.600
<v Speaker 4>fourth on that he had made in twelve years on

0:25:58.680 --> 0:26:01.360
<v Speaker 4>the Minor League Tour, or eleven years, he had made

0:26:01.400 --> 0:26:05.240
<v Speaker 4>one hundred and ninety four thousand dollars. I mean this

0:26:05.440 --> 0:26:08.879
<v Speaker 4>year he played on the Minor League Tour during a break,

0:26:08.920 --> 0:26:11.919
<v Speaker 4>like he had some time off. He played and he

0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:15.359
<v Speaker 4>played like four events on the Minor League Tour this year,

0:26:16.240 --> 0:26:20.040
<v Speaker 4>and now he's like in every elevated event. It's insane.

0:26:20.080 --> 0:26:21.560
<v Speaker 4>It's an amazing story.

0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:22.400
<v Speaker 1>It is.

0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:25.920
<v Speaker 4>This is what these guys grind for, is that like, hey,

0:26:26.600 --> 0:26:29.359
<v Speaker 4>you know, he he was dominant on the Minor League

0:26:29.359 --> 0:26:30.960
<v Speaker 4>Tour and now all of a sudden he's on the

0:26:30.960 --> 0:26:33.720
<v Speaker 4>PGA Tour and he's in every signature event.

0:26:33.960 --> 0:26:37.720
<v Speaker 1>For twenty twenty four is wild Eric Cole number four

0:26:37.760 --> 0:26:38.720
<v Speaker 1>on my list.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, kind of piggybacking off of what

0:26:41.320 --> 0:26:44.320
<v Speaker 3>KP said about this. I mean, what a time right

0:26:44.359 --> 0:26:48.280
<v Speaker 3>now to find your game, ye, Derek Cole, it's just

0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:51.280
<v Speaker 3>if you. I mean you think about Max, right, you

0:26:51.280 --> 0:26:53.840
<v Speaker 3>think about some of these players that have taken this

0:26:54.000 --> 0:26:56.600
<v Speaker 3>enormous leap over the last couple of years. That would

0:26:56.600 --> 0:26:58.399
<v Speaker 3>have been great to do fifteen years ago. I mean,

0:26:58.440 --> 0:27:00.680
<v Speaker 3>you'd have been a very rich person. But now you're

0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:06.160
<v Speaker 3>talking about generational wealth that you could run into by

0:27:06.240 --> 0:27:09.080
<v Speaker 3>just simply being a top forty golfer in the world.

0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:11.399
<v Speaker 3>And for Eric Cole, it's like, I'd love my break

0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:13.280
<v Speaker 3>to happen three years ago, but god, it's nice that

0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:14.960
<v Speaker 3>happened in twenty three.

0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:17.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, Shane, who's your four?

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:21.919
<v Speaker 3>My number four? I just mentioned Max. Mark Blackburn is

0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:25.800
<v Speaker 3>my nothing. I feel like he's become to his guy

0:27:26.000 --> 0:27:29.200
<v Speaker 3>in terms of golf instruction. Max took that huge leap

0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:31.440
<v Speaker 3>over the last few years he's worked with him. Justin

0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:34.920
<v Speaker 3>Rose flipped his game this year working with Mark. Obviously

0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:37.920
<v Speaker 3>wins and makes the Ryder Cup. I've heard some rumors

0:27:37.960 --> 0:27:40.840
<v Speaker 3>that a certain two time major winner that maybe just

0:27:40.920 --> 0:27:43.480
<v Speaker 3>had a little bit of success across the pond. Has

0:27:43.480 --> 0:27:45.840
<v Speaker 3>been working with Mark over the last few weeks and

0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:49.320
<v Speaker 3>things have changed for him. I asked Max what makes

0:27:49.359 --> 0:27:51.920
<v Speaker 3>Mark so great? And as Max does, he sent me

0:27:51.960 --> 0:27:55.080
<v Speaker 3>an amazing response. He said, I think he understands matchups

0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:58.280
<v Speaker 3>really well, so basically cause and effect. It's not cookie cutter.

0:27:58.600 --> 0:28:01.399
<v Speaker 3>I think people appreciate that you can do X if

0:28:01.440 --> 0:28:03.680
<v Speaker 3>you do Y type of thing, and he doesn't. It

0:28:03.680 --> 0:28:05.480
<v Speaker 3>doesn't have to be perfect with the whole golf swing,

0:28:05.600 --> 0:28:08.280
<v Speaker 3>just efficient for your body. He just feels like a

0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:12.040
<v Speaker 3>new age voice and eyes and when it comes to

0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:14.679
<v Speaker 3>golf swing in the professional ranks, and I feel like

0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:17.760
<v Speaker 3>more of these top fifteen players are gonna go to

0:28:17.800 --> 0:28:19.640
<v Speaker 3>Mark if they need any help over the next few years.

0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:21.560
<v Speaker 3>So I just feel like Mark has taken a leap

0:28:21.600 --> 0:28:24.240
<v Speaker 3>this year, and I feel like he deserves a place

0:28:24.240 --> 0:28:25.200
<v Speaker 3>on the top five list.

0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:29.880
<v Speaker 2>That seems like such a modern philosophy right where I'm

0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:36.320
<v Speaker 2>gonna try to fit my what I do to your body,

0:28:36.400 --> 0:28:39.560
<v Speaker 2>your game, your mind, rather than the other way around.

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:42.400
<v Speaker 2>I feel like in twenty thirty forty years ago, it's like,

0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:45.880
<v Speaker 2>oh no, I've got the answers you need to change

0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:48.760
<v Speaker 2>what you do to fit, Like my philosophy a swing,

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:53.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, versus the idea of like fitting. So like

0:28:53.240 --> 0:28:55.960
<v Speaker 2>David Ledbetter's like philosophy was like this is the way

0:28:56.000 --> 0:28:59.440
<v Speaker 2>to swing a golf club and obviously like this is

0:28:59.480 --> 0:29:03.000
<v Speaker 2>not a shot. David Ledbetter like what the tools at

0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:07.600
<v Speaker 2>Mark Blackburn's disposal now versus what you know, guys were

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:11.239
<v Speaker 2>coaching with a video camera, right, you know, if they

0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:14.600
<v Speaker 2>were advanced forty years ago, right, And now you have

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:18.480
<v Speaker 2>TrackMan that tells you literally everything that's going on when

0:29:18.600 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 2>a player hits the ball. Not to mention not just TrackMan,

0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:24.400
<v Speaker 2>but like those things they connect to people that show

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:28.440
<v Speaker 2>exactly how your body moves everything. The information is just

0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:29.160
<v Speaker 2>so much greater.

0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:35.480
<v Speaker 4>But the idea of like looking at someone and fitting

0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:38.520
<v Speaker 4>a golf swing that fits them is such a just

0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:42.040
<v Speaker 4>a refreshing way, like the idea of not, hey, this

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:43.680
<v Speaker 4>is how you have to swing a golf club. And

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:45.520
<v Speaker 4>I think that's the beauty of what's happened in golf

0:29:45.520 --> 0:29:46.480
<v Speaker 4>instruction recently.

0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:48.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean, colle it's a little like parenting, right, I

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:51.120
<v Speaker 3>mean you know, like imagine just parenting all your kids

0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:53.040
<v Speaker 3>the exact same way. I mean, I'm learning this now

0:29:53.080 --> 0:29:55.360
<v Speaker 3>because you know Charlotte's now one and a half, and

0:29:55.400 --> 0:29:58.760
<v Speaker 3>you know you're seeing the personality pop and I quickly

0:29:58.880 --> 0:30:02.200
<v Speaker 3>understand this is a totally different human than my son,

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:05.200
<v Speaker 3>and the way I go about the parenting to her

0:30:05.280 --> 0:30:07.800
<v Speaker 3>versus him is gonna be different. But if I just

0:30:07.880 --> 0:30:10.320
<v Speaker 3>went through the same process I went I go through

0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:13.080
<v Speaker 3>with Henry, it wouldn't fit her, right, I mean, what

0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:15.440
<v Speaker 3>she needs in wants is so different than what he

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 3>needs and wants.

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:19.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, and we see this in ourselves, right,

0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:21.920
<v Speaker 2>Like I know that I am motivated. Like if you,

0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:24.000
<v Speaker 2>if Shane, if you come to me and you say, hey,

0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:27.240
<v Speaker 2>that thing you wrote on Monday that sucked, like that

0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:30.120
<v Speaker 2>was not good, Like you're better than that, which you've

0:30:30.160 --> 0:30:32.280
<v Speaker 2>never said that, but maybe you thought it. If you

0:30:32.320 --> 0:30:34.800
<v Speaker 2>said that to me, I'd be like, damn, that did suck.

0:30:34.880 --> 0:30:36.800
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna it's gonna be

0:30:36.800 --> 0:30:39.160
<v Speaker 2>ten times better next Monday. If you said the same

0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:41.320
<v Speaker 2>thing to my wife, if she was if she was

0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:44.959
<v Speaker 2>doing my job, she would shut down. She would not

0:30:45.000 --> 0:30:46.840
<v Speaker 2>only shut down, she would never talk to you again,

0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:50.360
<v Speaker 2>and she would avoid you and she would maybe quit

0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:53.360
<v Speaker 2>her job. Right, And I think that some of these

0:30:53.560 --> 0:30:55.360
<v Speaker 2>some of these things that we see to be true

0:30:55.400 --> 0:30:58.880
<v Speaker 2>of ourselves, I think sometimes we don't presume that they're

0:30:58.920 --> 0:31:01.920
<v Speaker 2>true of other people also like out like out like

0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:04.520
<v Speaker 2>broadly true. And I think some of the best coaches

0:31:04.680 --> 0:31:07.600
<v Speaker 2>or teachers or or anything have kind of tapped into

0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:12.040
<v Speaker 2>the fact of like these human conditions are you know,

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:14.200
<v Speaker 2>like these things that we see in our in our

0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:16.479
<v Speaker 2>tiny little worlds, in our tiny little circles, those are

0:31:16.480 --> 0:31:19.160
<v Speaker 2>true everywhere. And so to see that and to say, oh,

0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:20.920
<v Speaker 2>I have to I have to kind of teach everybody

0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:23.840
<v Speaker 2>or coach everybody differently, I think, is to kind of

0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:26.040
<v Speaker 2>see what's going on in the reality of the world.

0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:28.280
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't think anything you right sucks, but

0:31:28.400 --> 0:31:30.920
<v Speaker 3>the coaching performance Sunday night, I mean, I just felt like.

0:31:31.120 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 5>You could have gotten Tyreek more involved early.

0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 3>I just can't believe the offense, you know, kind of

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:37.800
<v Speaker 3>sputter out of the gate like that. Just I mean,

0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:39.920
<v Speaker 3>just you know, maybe get a little more creative as

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:40.560
<v Speaker 3>you get set for.

0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:41.160
<v Speaker 5>The rest of the season.

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:43.560
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So my six year old is a is a

0:31:43.840 --> 0:31:46.360
<v Speaker 2>Jalen Hurts fan, no idea why he just saw him

0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:48.200
<v Speaker 2>play one time. He's like, I like that guy. So

0:31:48.240 --> 0:31:51.800
<v Speaker 2>he has this Jalen Hurts jersey. We're in Dallas. Everybody

0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:54.480
<v Speaker 2>who sees him is like, what's the deal. He doesn't understand,

0:31:54.680 --> 0:31:58.400
<v Speaker 2>like why you know he doesn't understand the Eagles Cowboys

0:31:58.480 --> 0:32:02.200
<v Speaker 2>thing and uh so the so the Eagles office buy

0:32:02.200 --> 0:32:04.920
<v Speaker 2>on Sunday night. Monday morning, He's like, do my Eagles win?

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:07.560
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like your Eagles? Like what are you talking about?

0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:09.880
<v Speaker 2>Like you don't even He's like, I want a Davante

0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:14.080
<v Speaker 2>Smith jersey for Christmas. I'm like, what do we do

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:21.920
<v Speaker 2>with here? I know it's unbelievable. Parenting your kids jerseys,

0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:24.200
<v Speaker 2>by the way, is so fun, like it's the best.

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:27.840
<v Speaker 4>Well we we I saw I saw Tron Tront's got

0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:30.200
<v Speaker 4>you know, he's got two kids in jerseys now and

0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:32.360
<v Speaker 4>one of them, one of them I think had et

0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 4>on On and the other one had Minshew And I'm

0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:39.800
<v Speaker 4>like freak and he goes, he goes, and he just

0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:42.360
<v Speaker 4>replied I sent up a message on Instagram.

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:45.000
<v Speaker 1>He replied like hand me downs are a bitch or

0:32:45.000 --> 0:32:45.880
<v Speaker 1>something like that.

0:32:46.640 --> 0:32:50.720
<v Speaker 3>Well, Kyle Henry now has learned because Cindy has Derrick

0:32:50.760 --> 0:32:54.680
<v Speaker 3>Henry on her fantasy team and Henry's now super excited

0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:57.160
<v Speaker 3>that there's a Henry in football. So I think there's

0:32:57.200 --> 0:33:00.320
<v Speaker 3>gonna be a Derreck Henry jersey potentially from Santa this year.

0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:03.800
<v Speaker 2>We'll see. Yeah, we've got We've got Jamar my older

0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:08.680
<v Speaker 2>son has Jamar, Lamar Jackson and Brady so we've we've

0:33:08.720 --> 0:33:10.640
<v Speaker 2>kind of run the run the game and no Justin

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:11.200
<v Speaker 2>Fields yet.

0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:15.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, Andy, Yeah, we're on the Tyson Badger Baigen.

0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:18.520
<v Speaker 5>So you can find one of those jerseys. And what's

0:33:18.680 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 5>number three?

0:33:20.400 --> 0:33:23.560
<v Speaker 1>I've got, uh, I've got l D. Luke Donald.

0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:26.960
<v Speaker 5>Honorable mention for me. Yep.

0:33:27.320 --> 0:33:30.360
<v Speaker 4>So I feel like the we've gotten like to the

0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:33.960
<v Speaker 4>furthest extreme of Ryder Cup captaincy, where if you win

0:33:34.200 --> 0:33:37.400
<v Speaker 4>your genius and if you lose, you're you're the biggest

0:33:37.400 --> 0:33:40.840
<v Speaker 4>idiot in the world. And I think like everything comes

0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:44.320
<v Speaker 4>out of the Ryder Cup. Luke Donald's team obviously dominates

0:33:44.360 --> 0:33:47.960
<v Speaker 4>the Ryder Cup. The Europeans they come together, you know,

0:33:48.240 --> 0:33:51.200
<v Speaker 4>against all odds, and they beat this American team that

0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 4>absolutely mopped the floor with him. Luke Donald. Now you

0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:58.120
<v Speaker 4>know he goes if he wins the next Ryder Cup.

0:33:58.200 --> 0:34:02.239
<v Speaker 4>I mean like he's gonna be a legendary rider. I mean,

0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:05.000
<v Speaker 4>Ari is a Ryder Cup legend from his record as

0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:09.040
<v Speaker 4>an individual, and now it's like it's like we've got

0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:11.719
<v Speaker 4>we're getting to the status of like a he's got

0:34:11.719 --> 0:34:14.920
<v Speaker 4>a potential to be like the Phil Jackson type of

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:17.800
<v Speaker 4>of the Ryder Cup. Here if he goes and wins

0:34:17.800 --> 0:34:21.719
<v Speaker 4>at beth Page, right, assuming he's he's selected.

0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Do you think he will be selected?

0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:26.960
<v Speaker 4>I mean it seems like it like the cupboards kind

0:34:26.960 --> 0:34:29.200
<v Speaker 4>of live, kind of stole all the pipeline.

0:34:29.480 --> 0:34:31.719
<v Speaker 3>Ye, right, I think I think he'll be. I think

0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 3>he'll be the I think he'll be the European captain.

0:34:33.640 --> 0:34:36.319
<v Speaker 3>I would if that was a bet online. I think

0:34:36.360 --> 0:34:37.239
<v Speaker 3>that's the way I would late.

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:43.160
<v Speaker 1>Who do you think who's Francesco Mulinari. He might still

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:45.719
<v Speaker 1>be playing. He hasn't been an assistant captain either.

0:34:45.600 --> 0:34:47.800
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, that's true, that's true.

0:34:48.120 --> 0:34:55.680
<v Speaker 1>But big shot Bob Carlson, I mean to.

0:34:55.680 --> 0:34:57.919
<v Speaker 3>Me, to me, the loop thing makes so much sense

0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:00.400
<v Speaker 3>because A you had the experience of being cat, then

0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:03.400
<v Speaker 3>you understand what's going down with it when you go in.

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:05.240
<v Speaker 3>What I think is going to be the most raucous

0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:08.279
<v Speaker 3>and potentially most intense Ryder Cup of all time on

0:35:08.320 --> 0:35:11.239
<v Speaker 3>the European side, for those players and coaches having to

0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:14.400
<v Speaker 3>go to Long Island and play at Betpage and having

0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:17.759
<v Speaker 3>somebody that knows how it goes, what to experience, the good,

0:35:17.800 --> 0:35:20.320
<v Speaker 3>the bad, the otherwise, what happens if your best player

0:35:20.320 --> 0:35:22.680
<v Speaker 3>wants to fight a caddy? Like all of those things

0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:25.520
<v Speaker 3>going in too kind of the recipe, why not have

0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:28.319
<v Speaker 3>somebody out there with a bit of experience so you

0:35:28.320 --> 0:35:31.160
<v Speaker 3>can kind of avoid I think, all of the mischief

0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:33.440
<v Speaker 3>that might take place, considering how weird it might be,

0:35:33.800 --> 0:35:35.800
<v Speaker 3>you know, with like the American fans going nuts.

0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:41.640
<v Speaker 2>I came into the year and feeling nothing towards lou Donald.

0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:44.520
<v Speaker 2>I didn't dislike him, I didn't love him. I just was.

0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:47.279
<v Speaker 2>I was neutral toward him. And I came away from

0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:50.439
<v Speaker 2>Rome being like, man, that guy is. And you're right,

0:35:50.520 --> 0:35:54.960
<v Speaker 2>like we overrate are we over assign value to the

0:35:55.000 --> 0:36:00.520
<v Speaker 2>captain when teams win, but winning a side like just

0:36:00.600 --> 0:36:03.960
<v Speaker 2>his demeanor and the way he carried himself, in the

0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:07.759
<v Speaker 2>way he spoke about his team and his strategy and

0:36:07.800 --> 0:36:11.959
<v Speaker 2>all those things I was and you know, those things

0:36:11.960 --> 0:36:13.839
<v Speaker 2>were true of him and have been true of him

0:36:13.840 --> 0:36:15.760
<v Speaker 2>for a long time, I just hadn't I just didn't

0:36:15.760 --> 0:36:18.520
<v Speaker 2>see them, or I hadn't seen them, and I walked

0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:21.680
<v Speaker 2>away from Rome being like, that guy is awesome as

0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:24.879
<v Speaker 2>a golf mind, as a golf personality, Like you don't

0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:26.360
<v Speaker 2>get a ton of that, or you didn't get a

0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:28.359
<v Speaker 2>ton of that when he was playing, and you did

0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:30.120
<v Speaker 2>during the Ryder Cup, and I thought it was sweet.

0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:30.920
<v Speaker 5>Kyle.

0:36:30.960 --> 0:36:33.480
<v Speaker 3>I think this happens in sports coaching a lot.

0:36:33.320 --> 0:36:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Where the coach the law.

0:36:36.600 --> 0:36:38.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah you know this obviously, but you know, like the

0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:42.640
<v Speaker 3>locker room understands which player's voices carrion matter and fans

0:36:42.680 --> 0:36:44.520
<v Speaker 3>don't really see it. I kind of lean on Vrabel

0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 3>a lot like this. Everybody in that Patriots locker room

0:36:47.680 --> 0:36:50.400
<v Speaker 3>would always talk about how key Vrabel was to the

0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:53.720
<v Speaker 3>Championships and how vocal he was and how everybody listened

0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:56.040
<v Speaker 3>to him. But we didn't really know that as fans.

0:36:56.320 --> 0:36:59.080
<v Speaker 3>And then you see him like in front of a microphone,

0:36:59.120 --> 0:37:01.520
<v Speaker 3>or you see him coaching, go oh that makes sense.

0:37:01.600 --> 0:37:03.560
<v Speaker 3>I feel like that with Luke, Like feels like the

0:37:03.600 --> 0:37:06.960
<v Speaker 3>players kind of understood the voice and the respect he carries,

0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:09.799
<v Speaker 3>and then you see him on that stage and you go, oh,

0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:11.520
<v Speaker 3>now we understand what you guys were all saying.

0:37:11.840 --> 0:37:14.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And you saw the outpoint of that on Sunday

0:37:14.200 --> 0:37:17.600
<v Speaker 2>night in Rome where totally they're pounding on the table

0:37:17.640 --> 0:37:21.360
<v Speaker 2>saying we want, we want lou Donald for for twenty

0:37:21.360 --> 0:37:24.760
<v Speaker 2>five and I can't Maybe they've done that for other captains.

0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:27.480
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't remember. They didn't do it for Harrington, I remember,

0:37:27.520 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 2>but were there other like has that happened? Does that happen?

0:37:32.000 --> 0:37:35.080
<v Speaker 1>They definitely didn't do it for Harrington, But I don't

0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:35.680
<v Speaker 1>think they did it.

0:37:36.080 --> 0:37:38.200
<v Speaker 3>I think they I think they tauted McGinley a bit.

0:37:38.360 --> 0:37:39.919
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if they got to the point where

0:37:39.920 --> 0:37:41.799
<v Speaker 3>they were saying he needs to be in line to

0:37:41.840 --> 0:37:44.320
<v Speaker 3>do it again. But it felt like people were pretty

0:37:44.320 --> 0:37:46.840
<v Speaker 3>pumped about McGinley. How by the way, Andy, how it

0:37:47.000 --> 0:37:49.239
<v Speaker 3>amazing it would it be if Live offered Luke like

0:37:49.400 --> 0:37:53.040
<v Speaker 3>two hundred million to come play.

0:37:51.440 --> 0:37:54.399
<v Speaker 1>Just try and sabotage the Ryder Cup again?

0:37:54.719 --> 0:37:59.400
<v Speaker 4>The momentum the uh I saw he was he posted

0:37:59.400 --> 0:38:00.480
<v Speaker 4>a swing on it Instagram.

0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:02.400
<v Speaker 1>It's like the first golf ball I've hit in a month.

0:38:02.920 --> 0:38:03.360
<v Speaker 2>I saw that.

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<v Speaker 4>Shane and Kyle.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, my number three, since we're talking European

0:39:58.840 --> 0:40:01.319
<v Speaker 3>Ryder Cup, my number three is Jon Rahm. I just

0:40:01.400 --> 0:40:04.640
<v Speaker 3>think when I'm talking about the five best years in golf,

0:40:04.719 --> 0:40:07.319
<v Speaker 3>every year, I'm gonna put the Masters champion because how

0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:10.359
<v Speaker 3>much weight it carries for that player, A you don't

0:40:10.640 --> 0:40:12.719
<v Speaker 3>ever have to worry about winning it again because I mean,

0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:14.600
<v Speaker 3>sure he'd love to win another one, but you're now

0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:17.560
<v Speaker 3>in that club from this point forward. And it was

0:40:17.600 --> 0:40:19.480
<v Speaker 3>on the heels of this epic run that I think

0:40:19.560 --> 0:40:22.680
<v Speaker 3>is easy to forget. I mean, he wins the Century Tournament,

0:40:22.719 --> 0:40:26.800
<v Speaker 3>almost champions, he wins amex RIV and he wins the Masters.

0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:29.839
<v Speaker 3>I mean this run was incredible and also again like

0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:32.959
<v Speaker 3>to not have to think about winning the Masters ever

0:40:33.080 --> 0:40:36.680
<v Speaker 3>again as a young great player has got to have

0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:40.160
<v Speaker 3>such a weight off the shoulders because like list players

0:40:40.160 --> 0:40:43.240
<v Speaker 3>that haven't justin Thomas every week's got to think about it. Rory,

0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:45.040
<v Speaker 3>every time we get to August has got to think

0:40:45.040 --> 0:40:47.399
<v Speaker 3>about it until they win one. And as we've said

0:40:47.440 --> 0:40:50.359
<v Speaker 3>so many times with Rory, every year goes by, it's

0:40:50.360 --> 0:40:52.040
<v Speaker 3>harder for him to do it. And I think John

0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:54.920
<v Speaker 3>Rahm was probably in the top three of that list

0:40:55.239 --> 0:40:58.000
<v Speaker 3>that quote unquote needed to win a Masters and for

0:40:58.080 --> 0:40:59.840
<v Speaker 3>him to get it as just to me, I mean,

0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:02.640
<v Speaker 3>just defines a great year in an important year.

0:41:02.880 --> 0:41:04.960
<v Speaker 4>I mean also the fashion that he did it, Like

0:41:05.040 --> 0:41:08.920
<v Speaker 4>he body bagged Brooks on Sunday, on a long Sunday,

0:41:09.360 --> 0:41:12.400
<v Speaker 4>you know, he just everybody was like, oh, this feels

0:41:12.440 --> 0:41:17.080
<v Speaker 4>like Brooks, this is Brooks Major, quintessential Brooks Major Championship.

0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:19.600
<v Speaker 4>And you know we saw that one one month later

0:41:19.640 --> 0:41:23.200
<v Speaker 4>at the PGA, But on that Sunday, you know, he

0:41:23.360 --> 0:41:25.600
<v Speaker 4>was the guy that walked away and just you know,

0:41:25.640 --> 0:41:28.480
<v Speaker 4>he just basically took the belt from Brooks right well.

0:41:28.520 --> 0:41:32.480
<v Speaker 2>And and every year, Shane I he always plays well

0:41:32.640 --> 0:41:35.600
<v Speaker 2>somewhere at the beginning of the year, whether it's Hawaii

0:41:35.960 --> 0:41:40.680
<v Speaker 2>or Palm Springs or maybe euro Tour. He'll have one

0:41:40.760 --> 0:41:43.160
<v Speaker 2>great start and every year I'm like, oh, he's gonna

0:41:43.160 --> 0:41:45.960
<v Speaker 2>win like six times this year, yep, and he doesn't.

0:41:46.680 --> 0:41:49.480
<v Speaker 2>But this year this was the year where I mean

0:41:49.560 --> 0:41:52.920
<v Speaker 2>he he he masters was what his fourth win of

0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:57.120
<v Speaker 2>the year and did he win again?

0:41:57.600 --> 0:41:57.719
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:41:57.960 --> 0:42:01.839
<v Speaker 2>Okay, but still fou four in a year is I mean,

0:42:01.840 --> 0:42:05.279
<v Speaker 2>that's like you win four, five, six in a year.

0:42:05.320 --> 0:42:08.480
<v Speaker 2>That's kind of been the modern equivalent of the when

0:42:08.560 --> 0:42:11.200
<v Speaker 2>VJ and Tiger were winning like seven or eight. You know,

0:42:11.280 --> 0:42:15.040
<v Speaker 2>that's that's JT had the five Spieth had the five

0:42:15.480 --> 0:42:20.799
<v Speaker 2>chef last year. The chuffear was what four three four

0:42:21.040 --> 0:42:24.160
<v Speaker 2>last year? Yeah, And so you get one guy every year,

0:42:24.320 --> 0:42:27.800
<v Speaker 2>maybe one every two years, that win four or five

0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:31.160
<v Speaker 2>in a in a season, and that's yeah, that's a

0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:33.279
<v Speaker 2>different level. I love your tweet during the Ryder Cup

0:42:33.719 --> 0:42:37.080
<v Speaker 2>Shane about how you said something like I don't I

0:42:37.080 --> 0:42:39.360
<v Speaker 2>don't know what the clutch or I don't know what

0:42:39.440 --> 0:42:43.319
<v Speaker 2>being clutch is, but whatever however you define it like

0:42:43.400 --> 0:42:47.840
<v Speaker 2>that's that's John Rong and I totally agree like it.

0:42:48.360 --> 0:42:50.360
<v Speaker 2>It's it's like when the intensity gets turned up, he

0:42:50.760 --> 0:42:54.040
<v Speaker 2>becomes even more of what he already is, which is

0:42:54.200 --> 0:42:55.000
<v Speaker 2>which is crazy.

0:42:55.360 --> 0:42:57.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, when you think about thirty years from now, whatever

0:42:57.480 --> 0:43:00.879
<v Speaker 3>the next generation of golf journalists are and whatever Wikipedia

0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:02.879
<v Speaker 3>is in thirty years from now, you know, they're gonna

0:43:02.880 --> 0:43:05.239
<v Speaker 3>look at Tory Pines and go, oh, John Ram win

0:43:05.320 --> 0:43:08.160
<v Speaker 3>this us open handily, right, And to think about those

0:43:08.200 --> 0:43:10.359
<v Speaker 3>putts at Tory, and then to think about the way

0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:13.520
<v Speaker 3>he played on Sunday, playing alongside Brooks Kopka, It's just

0:43:13.600 --> 0:43:17.800
<v Speaker 3>so hard to really contextualize what happened in the moment

0:43:17.840 --> 0:43:20.600
<v Speaker 3>when you're just kind of looking at recaps or looking

0:43:20.600 --> 0:43:24.399
<v Speaker 3>at finished leader boards and Rom makes these putts late.

0:43:24.440 --> 0:43:27.160
<v Speaker 3>It's just unbelievable. I mean, you know, I think there's

0:43:27.160 --> 0:43:28.799
<v Speaker 3>a really good chance that Rom's gonna go down as

0:43:28.800 --> 0:43:32.160
<v Speaker 3>the best player of this current crop or this current generation,

0:43:32.320 --> 0:43:35.600
<v Speaker 3>especially if Scotty, you know, continues to not pile up

0:43:35.600 --> 0:43:37.960
<v Speaker 3>the victories even though he finishes high. And so you know,

0:43:38.000 --> 0:43:40.960
<v Speaker 3>for Rom just getting a Master's win, I just feel like,

0:43:41.080 --> 0:43:43.200
<v Speaker 3>is it's the most pressure they face all year? And

0:43:43.400 --> 0:43:45.040
<v Speaker 3>I think the Master Champions is always gonna be on

0:43:45.040 --> 0:43:45.319
<v Speaker 3>my list.

0:43:45.360 --> 0:43:48.279
<v Speaker 4>Here can I ask a question? This is something I

0:43:48.360 --> 0:43:52.680
<v Speaker 4>struggle with. How do we delineate generations?

0:43:52.880 --> 0:43:55.399
<v Speaker 1>Right? Like what's the age gap that we need?

0:43:55.480 --> 0:43:58.440
<v Speaker 4>Because it's like, you know, are Rom and Rory in

0:43:58.520 --> 0:43:59.520
<v Speaker 4>different generations?

0:43:59.560 --> 0:44:02.080
<v Speaker 1>They feel like they are they are?

0:44:02.440 --> 0:44:06.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like there their careers, like you know, you know,

0:44:06.080 --> 0:44:11.320
<v Speaker 4>Rory's now on the backside of his career, right versus

0:44:11.800 --> 0:44:14.120
<v Speaker 4>rom still on the upside? Is that the way we

0:44:14.520 --> 0:44:17.880
<v Speaker 4>because then there's all these overlaps, right. I always struggle

0:44:17.920 --> 0:44:22.160
<v Speaker 4>with this, right, is how do you create Are Rory

0:44:22.160 --> 0:44:24.880
<v Speaker 4>and DJ in the same career window?

0:44:25.120 --> 0:44:25.279
<v Speaker 1>Right?

0:44:25.400 --> 0:44:27.640
<v Speaker 4>That seems like they were going at it? Is it

0:44:27.719 --> 0:44:30.080
<v Speaker 4>when they're at their peak at the same time. Could

0:44:30.120 --> 0:44:32.160
<v Speaker 4>there be a thirty year old that like the light

0:44:32.160 --> 0:44:34.239
<v Speaker 4>bulb goes off and they are great from thirty to

0:44:34.280 --> 0:44:37.000
<v Speaker 4>forty that match up with a twenty three year old

0:44:37.080 --> 0:44:40.279
<v Speaker 4>who's great from twenty three to twenty eight, You know?

0:44:40.560 --> 0:44:43.480
<v Speaker 4>Is is that how you match up generations in golf?

0:44:43.680 --> 0:44:46.400
<v Speaker 4>It's hard because like the ages don't match up always

0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:47.000
<v Speaker 4>they don't.

0:44:47.520 --> 0:44:51.880
<v Speaker 2>But I think generations are defined by players, and so

0:44:52.040 --> 0:44:55.920
<v Speaker 2>you you almost have like whoever the player who defines

0:44:55.960 --> 0:44:58.680
<v Speaker 2>that generation is you have five years in either direction

0:44:59.480 --> 0:45:04.319
<v Speaker 2>and that's age range. So you went from what like

0:45:04.840 --> 0:45:07.120
<v Speaker 2>Norman in the late eighties early nineties, and you had

0:45:07.120 --> 0:45:10.440
<v Speaker 2>the Tiger generation, but the Tiger generation lasted a long time,

0:45:11.200 --> 0:45:11.560
<v Speaker 2>and so.

0:45:13.640 --> 0:45:18.919
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Tiger Phil Ernie VJ early two thousands. Then it's

0:45:18.960 --> 0:45:22.600
<v Speaker 4>like twenty tens, was it the Martin Kaimer generation?

0:45:23.160 --> 0:45:25.680
<v Speaker 3>Luke Donald Lee West with Martin Kimer so so weird,

0:45:25.719 --> 0:45:27.600
<v Speaker 3>it was a weird time in golf. It's a really

0:45:27.640 --> 0:45:28.040
<v Speaker 3>weird time.

0:45:28.080 --> 0:45:30.120
<v Speaker 2>But I think I think the next generation is the

0:45:30.200 --> 0:45:31.399
<v Speaker 2>Rory generation, right.

0:45:31.360 --> 0:45:34.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Rory and DJ And then it feels like, now

0:45:34.160 --> 0:45:34.680
<v Speaker 3>you've kind of.

0:45:34.600 --> 0:45:37.359
<v Speaker 1>Got Ricky Ricky probably in there, yeah, and then.

0:45:37.280 --> 0:45:40.120
<v Speaker 3>You went then you went speed JT to me, at

0:45:40.200 --> 0:45:42.000
<v Speaker 3>least in the way I kind of look at it. Yeah,

0:45:42.120 --> 0:45:43.920
<v Speaker 3>right now, it feels like it's kind of the.

0:45:44.000 --> 0:45:48.280
<v Speaker 4>I think and Jena Speith and jt Rom and Scheffler

0:45:48.880 --> 0:45:51.879
<v Speaker 4>in the same ones, same one, right, because like they're

0:45:51.920 --> 0:45:54.400
<v Speaker 4>what three years older than those guys. It's just Speith

0:45:54.440 --> 0:45:56.600
<v Speaker 4>played the best golf of his life at twenty one,

0:45:56.640 --> 0:46:00.000
<v Speaker 4>and that's something we have to come to reconcile with, right.

0:46:00.520 --> 0:46:02.880
<v Speaker 2>I think what's interesting is somebody like a Bubba Watson, like,

0:46:02.920 --> 0:46:05.480
<v Speaker 2>who's whose generation is Bubba? And is he part of

0:46:05.880 --> 0:46:07.799
<v Speaker 2>because he's what forty two forty three? Is he the

0:46:08.400 --> 0:46:10.319
<v Speaker 2>is he the Tiger generation? He feels like.

0:46:10.719 --> 0:46:14.400
<v Speaker 3>Range Goat generation? Am I just be the Goat generation?

0:46:14.600 --> 0:46:17.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean? No, I think I think he's probably I

0:46:17.520 --> 0:46:20.200
<v Speaker 3>think I would probably put him in DJ Rory generation

0:46:20.280 --> 0:46:21.960
<v Speaker 3>at least the way I kind of look at it

0:46:22.000 --> 0:46:24.840
<v Speaker 3>because to me, to his peak years were when Rory

0:46:24.920 --> 0:46:27.239
<v Speaker 3>was peaking and when DJ was peaking, you know.

0:46:27.440 --> 0:46:31.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because it was like what that Oakmont US Open

0:46:31.920 --> 0:46:33.719
<v Speaker 4>was where he kind of like burst down the seal,

0:46:33.920 --> 0:46:37.320
<v Speaker 4>right one, Yeah, that was what eight nine.

0:46:39.520 --> 0:46:39.759
<v Speaker 2>Eight?

0:46:39.880 --> 0:46:42.279
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because that was like that was kind of his

0:46:42.360 --> 0:46:47.120
<v Speaker 4>big it just like kind of Brooks opening. Big moment

0:46:47.360 --> 0:46:51.160
<v Speaker 4>was Pinehurst twenty fourteen. Right, it almost precluded. It was

0:46:51.200 --> 0:46:53.320
<v Speaker 4>like a little glimpse of what was coming.

0:46:53.440 --> 0:46:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:46:54.320 --> 0:46:56.600
<v Speaker 4>I think ironically that was probably the best US Open

0:46:56.640 --> 0:46:57.560
<v Speaker 4>Bubba ever played.

0:46:58.040 --> 0:47:00.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it was. Yep. I think sometimes you

0:47:00.680 --> 0:47:06.000
<v Speaker 2>can't define the generation until well, yeah, because you don't

0:47:06.000 --> 0:47:09.040
<v Speaker 2>know who the best guy is until later and it's

0:47:09.080 --> 0:47:12.080
<v Speaker 2>all predicated. I think it all depends on like whoever

0:47:12.800 --> 0:47:15.800
<v Speaker 2>emerges as that best guy and then guys.

0:47:15.640 --> 0:47:18.080
<v Speaker 3>Like Sale right, Like it's a floating scale there too,

0:47:18.120 --> 0:47:21.959
<v Speaker 3>where some generations are fifteen years in summer four years.

0:47:22.040 --> 0:47:24.000
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I think that's fair to say totally.

0:47:24.080 --> 0:47:27.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean the yeah, the Tiger generation spanned a long

0:47:27.719 --> 0:47:31.040
<v Speaker 2>way in either direction because he was the he was

0:47:31.120 --> 0:47:34.879
<v Speaker 2>the the centerpiece. I mean, he was the middle of it,

0:47:35.080 --> 0:47:37.960
<v Speaker 2>and so for because he was the middle for a lot.

0:47:37.960 --> 0:47:39.680
<v Speaker 2>And this is kind of true of Rory, right. I

0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:42.400
<v Speaker 2>think you've talked about this a lot. Andy, Like his

0:47:42.560 --> 0:47:44.520
<v Speaker 2>greatest skill and DJ's greatest skill in a lot of

0:47:44.520 --> 0:47:48.360
<v Speaker 2>ways is consistent, like consistent greatness over a sustained period

0:47:48.360 --> 0:47:51.799
<v Speaker 2>of time. Like that's very very difficult, and that means

0:47:51.960 --> 0:47:54.800
<v Speaker 2>that the that the Ry generation will be pretty wide

0:47:55.080 --> 0:47:57.520
<v Speaker 2>when we talk about players that were in it, but

0:47:57.560 --> 0:47:59.239
<v Speaker 2>then there's going to be another one. I think it'll

0:47:59.360 --> 0:48:03.319
<v Speaker 2>end up being I mean, probably the wrong generation. But

0:48:04.280 --> 0:48:07.040
<v Speaker 2>will there be somebody behind him that's like quick, like

0:48:07.520 --> 0:48:10.320
<v Speaker 2>more cowa Hoblin, somebody like that that's five years younger

0:48:10.360 --> 0:48:13.160
<v Speaker 2>and just as good that it gets transferred to that

0:48:13.480 --> 0:48:14.480
<v Speaker 2>to that next player.

0:48:15.040 --> 0:48:18.040
<v Speaker 4>The Rory thing's insane because he hasn't been ranked outside

0:48:18.080 --> 0:48:20.080
<v Speaker 4>the top fifteen in the world since I think, oh

0:48:20.239 --> 0:48:24.520
<v Speaker 4>nine mm hmm, so we're fourteen years in like, and

0:48:24.600 --> 0:48:27.080
<v Speaker 4>I don't I don't foresee him being outside the top

0:48:27.120 --> 0:48:32.120
<v Speaker 4>fifteen for probably at least I don't, you know, barring

0:48:32.160 --> 0:48:37.080
<v Speaker 4>any injury setbacks, like five years, like we're talking about,

0:48:37.480 --> 0:48:39.600
<v Speaker 4>I mean, and that's the thing with Tiger is like

0:48:39.680 --> 0:48:42.479
<v Speaker 4>Tiger was like it was kind of ten years right,

0:48:42.520 --> 0:48:45.399
<v Speaker 4>and then it was these like sparring moments a year here,

0:48:46.239 --> 0:48:51.160
<v Speaker 4>two years off, a year here. You know that no there,

0:48:51.400 --> 0:48:54.440
<v Speaker 4>Phil would be the only you know, real comparison in

0:48:54.520 --> 0:48:56.520
<v Speaker 4>terms of long deevity. And that's the weird thing. It's like,

0:48:56.680 --> 0:48:59.719
<v Speaker 4>is this is Phil still part of these generations? Because

0:48:59.719 --> 0:49:04.239
<v Speaker 4>he's not obviously shook up golf pretty pretty substantially in

0:49:04.280 --> 0:49:07.080
<v Speaker 4>this generation, Like, is he still part of this generation?

0:49:07.560 --> 0:49:10.080
<v Speaker 2>I think? So I wrote this actually the Open this year,

0:49:10.800 --> 0:49:16.080
<v Speaker 2>I think Rory is having Phil's career And that sounds

0:49:16.640 --> 0:49:21.000
<v Speaker 2>weird because obviously stylistically and personality wise they're so they're

0:49:21.040 --> 0:49:23.640
<v Speaker 2>so different, and I think people have always said, oh,

0:49:23.719 --> 0:49:25.799
<v Speaker 2>Rory's the next Tiger, like we just got people got

0:49:25.800 --> 0:49:29.000
<v Speaker 2>hooked on the like Rory's Tiger thing, which was you

0:49:29.040 --> 0:49:31.799
<v Speaker 2>know just sort of I guess there was like a

0:49:32.280 --> 0:49:34.959
<v Speaker 2>small window where you're like, oh, maybe, and and that's

0:49:35.000 --> 0:49:37.920
<v Speaker 2>been pretty obviously not true for a while. But to

0:49:38.000 --> 0:49:41.480
<v Speaker 2>have Phil's career in this era is like you might

0:49:41.520 --> 0:49:43.719
<v Speaker 2>be one of the twelve best golfers ever, you know,

0:49:43.840 --> 0:49:46.560
<v Speaker 2>And and I think that people get really hung up

0:49:46.600 --> 0:49:49.359
<v Speaker 2>and wound up on the I don't want a major

0:49:49.360 --> 0:49:51.759
<v Speaker 2>into you know, nine years thing. And it's like Phil

0:49:51.800 --> 0:49:54.239
<v Speaker 2>had long periods where he didn't win majors, you know,

0:49:54.360 --> 0:49:55.720
<v Speaker 2>but but the but the.

0:49:55.640 --> 0:49:58.200
<v Speaker 3>Tiger did too, Kyle, I mean, I mean what Tiger

0:49:58.200 --> 0:49:59.480
<v Speaker 3>went away to nineteen.

0:50:00.120 --> 0:50:00.400
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:50:00.440 --> 0:50:03.120
<v Speaker 2>But the reason that Phil is who he is is because,

0:50:03.160 --> 0:50:06.800
<v Speaker 2>like Andy said, his sustained greatness over twenty five years,

0:50:07.280 --> 0:50:10.200
<v Speaker 2>that piles up and at the end, like where did

0:50:10.280 --> 0:50:14.000
<v Speaker 2>everybody just get They like Lebron will have a possession tonight.

0:50:14.000 --> 0:50:15.839
<v Speaker 2>It's like, oh, he might not be the best player ever.

0:50:15.960 --> 0:50:18.759
<v Speaker 2>And you're like, can we maybe chill out a little bit?

0:50:19.520 --> 0:50:22.040
<v Speaker 5>It's wait till the finals. Let's just wait till Yeah.

0:50:22.760 --> 0:50:27.280
<v Speaker 1>It's the Brock party discourse right now. To be bad.

0:50:27.440 --> 0:50:30.399
<v Speaker 4>It's like every play I think it's like comical, like

0:50:30.680 --> 0:50:31.720
<v Speaker 4>you know, he throws it in herself.

0:50:31.920 --> 0:50:33.480
<v Speaker 1>It's like, oh, he's not very good. You know.

0:50:34.800 --> 0:50:36.400
<v Speaker 3>It's like they're five and two, they're still gonna make

0:50:36.400 --> 0:50:38.760
<v Speaker 3>the NFC Championship game. We'll see what happens then, right.

0:50:39.000 --> 0:50:44.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's and yeah, that's the thing I

0:50:44.920 --> 0:50:47.719
<v Speaker 4>wrote something years ago, like I mean probably like six

0:50:47.800 --> 0:50:51.960
<v Speaker 4>years ago about like how everybody wants to call Rory

0:50:52.000 --> 0:50:55.839
<v Speaker 4>the next Tiger. It's the reality is he was. He's

0:50:55.880 --> 0:50:59.480
<v Speaker 4>like Dominique Wilkins, right, Like Dominique Wilkins was like all

0:50:59.600 --> 0:51:02.520
<v Speaker 4>time player who played the same era of Jordan.

0:51:02.600 --> 0:51:04.920
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, what would that career look like?

0:51:04.960 --> 0:51:08.000
<v Speaker 4>What how would people talk about Dominique if if Michael

0:51:08.040 --> 0:51:11.800
<v Speaker 4>Jordan wasn't around, Because he was like a spectacle of

0:51:11.800 --> 0:51:14.240
<v Speaker 4>of an of an athlete, of a of a player.

0:51:14.640 --> 0:51:16.719
<v Speaker 4>He could go out and drop fifty on you. He

0:51:17.000 --> 0:51:18.960
<v Speaker 4>you know, he had all these dunks and then he

0:51:19.040 --> 0:51:21.160
<v Speaker 4>ran into Michael Jordan a bunch of times, like he

0:51:21.239 --> 0:51:23.359
<v Speaker 4>was playing in the same conference as Michael Jordan. It's

0:51:23.400 --> 0:51:26.239
<v Speaker 4>like that Clyde Drexler thing. Like with Clyde Dracon, people

0:51:26.280 --> 0:51:28.520
<v Speaker 4>are like, he's the best shooting guard in the league,

0:51:28.560 --> 0:51:30.920
<v Speaker 4>and then Jordan just takes him to the woodshed, you know,

0:51:31.200 --> 0:51:32.080
<v Speaker 4>like it.

0:51:31.960 --> 0:51:37.680
<v Speaker 3>Was all alone Ernie L's and Dustin Johnson's Haroline.

0:51:36.440 --> 0:51:40.520
<v Speaker 1>Don't you dare insult Ernie Els Malone won amv.

0:51:41.920 --> 0:51:44.320
<v Speaker 4>I just I'm just gonna say, you know, Ernie Els,

0:51:44.440 --> 0:51:48.439
<v Speaker 4>if they never went away from the wound ball, who

0:51:48.440 --> 0:51:49.960
<v Speaker 4>knows what Ernie Els would have done?

0:51:50.520 --> 0:51:54.040
<v Speaker 2>Real quick? What what is? What comp what golf comp

0:51:54.120 --> 0:51:57.880
<v Speaker 2>to another sport? Like player comp Are you most proud

0:51:57.920 --> 0:51:59.840
<v Speaker 2>of that you've come up with. I've got one that

0:51:59.880 --> 0:52:03.719
<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about. But you guys do this

0:52:03.800 --> 0:52:07.360
<v Speaker 2>all the time with with NBA and and specifically with NBA,

0:52:07.719 --> 0:52:10.200
<v Speaker 2>and there's got to be one that stands out to you.

0:52:10.280 --> 0:52:15.080
<v Speaker 4>Andy Scheffler is Jokic. They are super awkward while they're

0:52:15.080 --> 0:52:18.560
<v Speaker 4>doing it. Their bulk big and kind of like gangly,

0:52:18.880 --> 0:52:21.560
<v Speaker 4>but but you watch it and you're like, wait, what's

0:52:21.640 --> 0:52:24.000
<v Speaker 4>going on? And then it goes in or it's like

0:52:24.000 --> 0:52:27.799
<v Speaker 4>an unbelievable pass. Like Scheffler, he's swinging at his feed

0:52:27.880 --> 0:52:29.960
<v Speaker 4>or doing all this stuff, and it's like a flushed

0:52:30.000 --> 0:52:32.360
<v Speaker 4>long iron that well, there's a long iron that doesn't

0:52:32.360 --> 0:52:35.319
<v Speaker 4>sound flush, but it is flushed and it ends up

0:52:35.400 --> 0:52:36.200
<v Speaker 4>five feet away.

0:52:36.400 --> 0:52:39.239
<v Speaker 2>You know, that's a good I think.

0:52:39.520 --> 0:52:41.759
<v Speaker 3>I think Ludwig and Wimby is something I've been kind

0:52:41.760 --> 0:52:43.880
<v Speaker 3>of sitting on for a bit, you know, just just

0:52:43.920 --> 0:52:45.839
<v Speaker 3>seeing what what pops with these two guys.

0:52:46.200 --> 0:52:49.640
<v Speaker 4>Okay, honestly, I think like Ludwig, I almost put in

0:52:50.120 --> 0:52:50.640
<v Speaker 4>one of my.

0:52:50.680 --> 0:52:54.000
<v Speaker 3>Five interesting I think he's listen. I think he'd been

0:52:54.080 --> 0:52:55.520
<v Speaker 3>worthy of a spot honestly.

0:52:55.560 --> 0:52:58.480
<v Speaker 4>Well, like he wouldn't have a card right now. He

0:52:58.520 --> 0:53:00.920
<v Speaker 4>didn't play well enough to have a car. Yeah, but

0:53:00.960 --> 0:53:04.960
<v Speaker 4>it's this PGA Tour you thing just like it's like

0:53:05.000 --> 0:53:08.080
<v Speaker 4>a gift from from heaven. Right, it's like, oh, here's

0:53:08.120 --> 0:53:09.839
<v Speaker 4>here's your card for a year and a half and

0:53:09.880 --> 0:53:12.960
<v Speaker 4>then like these guys are so it's so hard. I think, like,

0:53:13.480 --> 0:53:15.920
<v Speaker 4>you know, like what's going to get lost on history

0:53:16.000 --> 0:53:19.720
<v Speaker 4>is how great players had to play to get the cards,

0:53:20.000 --> 0:53:23.759
<v Speaker 4>like the things that like John Rahm did, that Morikawa did,

0:53:25.320 --> 0:53:29.359
<v Speaker 4>Matthew like these, yeah, exactly, Like when you have eight

0:53:29.400 --> 0:53:32.480
<v Speaker 4>starts and it's like you need to gain the FedEx

0:53:32.520 --> 0:53:35.680
<v Speaker 4>Cup points that people do over an entire season in

0:53:35.760 --> 0:53:38.960
<v Speaker 4>eight starts and then you get your card. Is like

0:53:39.160 --> 0:53:42.480
<v Speaker 4>that is like an unbelievable like the list of people

0:53:42.560 --> 0:53:45.640
<v Speaker 4>that can do that, it's like super high pressure. Like

0:53:45.920 --> 0:53:48.799
<v Speaker 4>and I think like now with this like this guarantees,

0:53:48.920 --> 0:53:52.200
<v Speaker 4>I think it's a great change. I think the number

0:53:52.239 --> 0:53:54.799
<v Speaker 4>one player on pg tour you should have a card,

0:53:55.080 --> 0:53:57.600
<v Speaker 4>but you do lose a little bit of like that

0:53:57.600 --> 0:54:01.200
<v Speaker 4>that accomplishment of the few players that could do it

0:54:01.239 --> 0:54:01.919
<v Speaker 4>and get it done.

0:54:02.280 --> 0:54:03.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure, KP.

0:54:03.680 --> 0:54:08.080
<v Speaker 5>Who's your number three? Well, my comp I'm sorry, your comp.

0:54:08.120 --> 0:54:12.640
<v Speaker 2>Sorry. I think Andy'll like this. JT and Bryce Harper.

0:54:13.120 --> 0:54:15.919
<v Speaker 1>That's good. That's good. I like it.

0:54:16.200 --> 0:54:19.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like you can do it all generationally good

0:54:19.120 --> 0:54:23.160
<v Speaker 2>from a young age, fulfilled the expectations, a lot of drama,

0:54:23.400 --> 0:54:26.359
<v Speaker 2>a lot of emotion, a lot going on.

0:54:28.520 --> 0:54:30.840
<v Speaker 4>There is there a slump in there for Bryce Harper

0:54:31.120 --> 0:54:33.080
<v Speaker 4>at one point he's.

0:54:32.920 --> 0:54:36.040
<v Speaker 2>Been he's been injured. I don't know if there I

0:54:36.200 --> 0:54:37.080
<v Speaker 2>know if there's a slump.

0:54:37.120 --> 0:54:40.040
<v Speaker 4>But JT a top ten player by the end and

0:54:40.400 --> 0:54:41.560
<v Speaker 4>by this time next year.

0:54:43.200 --> 0:54:48.520
<v Speaker 2>No, yeah, all right, this is the decade of JT.

0:54:48.680 --> 0:54:51.400
<v Speaker 2>It might be the wrong decade actually, but poor declared

0:54:51.440 --> 0:54:57.200
<v Speaker 2>that Scott or Brooks Brooks, Brooks, we don't have time

0:54:57.239 --> 0:55:03.560
<v Speaker 2>for Brooks. Go ahead, number three Data golf, Data Golf.

0:55:03.600 --> 0:55:04.080
<v Speaker 1>I love it.

0:55:04.680 --> 0:55:10.200
<v Speaker 2>So the reason for this is because they rank with

0:55:10.360 --> 0:55:13.759
<v Speaker 2>player like my I don't disagree with what the ODEVGR

0:55:13.840 --> 0:55:18.080
<v Speaker 2>has done recently in excluding live players. You're not measuring

0:55:18.160 --> 0:55:21.920
<v Speaker 2>similar entities. I totally understand like why they've done what

0:55:21.960 --> 0:55:25.719
<v Speaker 2>they've done, But for my purposes and our purposes, I

0:55:25.800 --> 0:55:27.319
<v Speaker 2>need to be able to talk about who the best

0:55:27.320 --> 0:55:29.760
<v Speaker 2>players in the world are, right like I I don't

0:55:30.000 --> 0:55:31.920
<v Speaker 2>when I go to the US Open, I can't be

0:55:32.040 --> 0:55:35.400
<v Speaker 2>discussing Bryson as if he's the two hundred and seventieth

0:55:35.440 --> 0:55:40.160
<v Speaker 2>best player, Like that's that's preposterous. And so of course

0:55:40.480 --> 0:55:45.200
<v Speaker 2>we have to have some objective some people would say subjective,

0:55:45.320 --> 0:55:49.960
<v Speaker 2>but it's math, some objective measuring stick for all the

0:55:50.120 --> 0:55:53.440
<v Speaker 2>all the golfers in the world and the what has

0:55:53.520 --> 0:55:57.520
<v Speaker 2>happened in the vacuum of THEWG or in the absence

0:55:57.560 --> 0:56:01.040
<v Speaker 2>of the ode WGR, including live players data golf ranking

0:56:01.080 --> 0:56:04.160
<v Speaker 2>them has provided I think a ton of value for

0:56:04.200 --> 0:56:06.880
<v Speaker 2>people like us and for fans that are like I

0:56:06.880 --> 0:56:08.440
<v Speaker 2>don't know, I don't know what to do. I don't know,

0:56:08.520 --> 0:56:11.640
<v Speaker 2>like who's good and who's not, and whether you agree

0:56:11.640 --> 0:56:13.879
<v Speaker 2>with their formulas or not. I think it's I think

0:56:13.920 --> 0:56:18.759
<v Speaker 2>it's provided a valuable tool for fans and media for

0:56:18.800 --> 0:56:19.320
<v Speaker 2>the future.

0:56:19.880 --> 0:56:21.560
<v Speaker 3>Totally agree with you. I think it's a great call.

0:56:21.760 --> 0:56:24.799
<v Speaker 3>And I mean I I lean on it during broadcast, Kyle.

0:56:24.880 --> 0:56:27.279
<v Speaker 3>I mean I will, like on a Friday broadcast if

0:56:27.320 --> 0:56:30.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm doing PJ Tour, a major something like that, I'll

0:56:30.000 --> 0:56:33.040
<v Speaker 3>bring up the cut line number that they're providing. I

0:56:33.120 --> 0:56:35.800
<v Speaker 3>just feel like, you think needs to be more involved

0:56:35.920 --> 0:56:38.600
<v Speaker 3>because what they're doing is amazing and it's in depth

0:56:38.640 --> 0:56:42.759
<v Speaker 3>and obviously it's very accurate. And and I'll say this,

0:56:42.840 --> 0:56:45.200
<v Speaker 3>like I had these one sheets Kyle my mom made

0:56:45.239 --> 0:56:47.239
<v Speaker 3>because you know, like we're all basement bloggers at the

0:56:47.320 --> 0:56:49.640
<v Speaker 3>end of the day, and like when I would do

0:56:49.719 --> 0:56:51.719
<v Speaker 3>feature group stuff and it's the three players that I

0:56:51.719 --> 0:56:53.960
<v Speaker 3>would do like on PJ Tour Live and stuff like that,

0:56:54.000 --> 0:56:57.640
<v Speaker 3>and I've had wins last four starts and then age

0:56:57.640 --> 0:56:59.520
<v Speaker 3>and owgr was one of the things and I've been

0:56:59.560 --> 0:57:02.440
<v Speaker 3>thinking about lately. It's like I can't use that anymore

0:57:02.480 --> 0:57:05.680
<v Speaker 3>because no, to your point, when I'm when we're trying

0:57:05.680 --> 0:57:08.480
<v Speaker 3>to quantify how good somebody is, that was what we

0:57:08.520 --> 0:57:10.759
<v Speaker 3>could use. Right this guy's the eighth ranked player in

0:57:10.800 --> 0:57:13.560
<v Speaker 3>the world, and now you can't really use that. And

0:57:14.560 --> 0:57:17.320
<v Speaker 3>trying to define who Cam Smith as a golfer, we

0:57:17.440 --> 0:57:19.520
<v Speaker 3>right now don't have a way to explain that outside

0:57:19.720 --> 0:57:20.800
<v Speaker 3>of bringing up the open win.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I would say one of the big losers

0:57:23.880 --> 0:57:26.919
<v Speaker 4>of the year was Taylor Gooch. You know, he made

0:57:26.960 --> 0:57:29.600
<v Speaker 4>twenty million dollars, but I think, like when you look

0:57:29.640 --> 0:57:30.480
<v Speaker 4>at Taylor.

0:57:30.200 --> 0:57:33.600
<v Speaker 2>Gooch, I think he made thirty three Wait.

0:57:33.600 --> 0:57:34.360
<v Speaker 1>Thirty three million.

0:57:35.480 --> 0:57:38.400
<v Speaker 4>When you when you look at Taylor Gooch, he was

0:57:38.480 --> 0:57:41.280
<v Speaker 4>like I I kept looking at him, I'm like, God,

0:57:41.320 --> 0:57:43.840
<v Speaker 4>this guy profiles is really good player. He was good

0:57:43.840 --> 0:57:46.640
<v Speaker 4>at everything. He obviously was is really good friends with

0:57:46.720 --> 0:57:49.040
<v Speaker 4>Max Homa. I think he was a better player than

0:57:49.080 --> 0:57:52.240
<v Speaker 4>Max when he went to Live and like, I don't

0:57:52.240 --> 0:57:55.600
<v Speaker 4>think it's crazy that Taylor Gooch would be in a

0:57:55.680 --> 0:57:59.200
<v Speaker 4>similar position to Max right now in the World Golf rankings.

0:58:00.080 --> 0:58:03.680
<v Speaker 4>I have that profile of Max, probably not the popularity

0:58:03.720 --> 0:58:06.400
<v Speaker 4>off the course and on the course, but have that

0:58:06.480 --> 0:58:09.680
<v Speaker 4>profile of like this guy could be, you know, and

0:58:09.800 --> 0:58:12.200
<v Speaker 4>instead he's not even gonna be playing in the Major

0:58:12.240 --> 0:58:14.120
<v Speaker 4>sext year, right.

0:58:15.360 --> 0:58:17.680
<v Speaker 2>You think he was better than Max when when he left.

0:58:17.680 --> 0:58:19.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you look at it, if you look

0:58:19.400 --> 0:58:19.680
<v Speaker 1>at his.

0:58:23.040 --> 0:58:26.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, his stats were he was He's a positive, he

0:58:26.760 --> 0:58:30.200
<v Speaker 4>was good at everything, like a plus player in every

0:58:30.280 --> 0:58:32.840
<v Speaker 4>facet of the game. Like he was a really like

0:58:33.040 --> 0:58:35.800
<v Speaker 4>when you look at guys that are built for hard

0:58:35.840 --> 0:58:40.320
<v Speaker 4>golf in major championship golf, like his his profile. I

0:58:40.400 --> 0:58:43.640
<v Speaker 4>felt like when I just looked at it and I

0:58:43.680 --> 0:58:45.600
<v Speaker 4>was like, this is a guy that's gonna pop soon,

0:58:46.200 --> 0:58:49.280
<v Speaker 4>and this is you know, two plus years ago and

0:58:49.920 --> 0:58:54.919
<v Speaker 4>now he's popping, but him going getting like no matter

0:58:54.920 --> 0:58:57.920
<v Speaker 4>what you say about live like he did some he played,

0:58:58.000 --> 0:59:01.920
<v Speaker 4>had a great year, right, Yeah, and it didn't matter

0:59:01.960 --> 0:59:05.040
<v Speaker 4>because it gets him into nothing legacy wise. It does

0:59:05.120 --> 0:59:08.280
<v Speaker 4>matter from like, hey, he's got generational wealth and I'm

0:59:08.280 --> 0:59:10.840
<v Speaker 4>not going to discount that, like his family set up

0:59:10.880 --> 0:59:14.240
<v Speaker 4>forever now, but you know he did miss out on

0:59:14.360 --> 0:59:17.600
<v Speaker 4>all the other carrots of what playing great golf gets you.

0:59:18.160 --> 0:59:24.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, totally. And I think that the other thing that

0:59:24.200 --> 0:59:27.080
<v Speaker 2>happens with Livin somebody maybe Dan Rappaport wrote about this

0:59:27.120 --> 0:59:29.800
<v Speaker 2>at the US Open last year, is you don't get

0:59:29.840 --> 0:59:33.920
<v Speaker 2>the like Max is a better player because he plays

0:59:33.920 --> 0:59:36.320
<v Speaker 2>on the PGA Tour and has to beat guys like

0:59:37.640 --> 0:59:42.320
<v Speaker 2>Rory spith Ram Scheffler, right, and Gooch obviously is a

0:59:42.400 --> 0:59:45.160
<v Speaker 2>very good player. Data golf would say he's a top

0:59:45.200 --> 0:59:47.440
<v Speaker 2>twenty five player, a top thirty player, whatever it is,

0:59:47.560 --> 0:59:50.600
<v Speaker 2>and I would agree with that. But I don't think

0:59:50.640 --> 0:59:52.720
<v Speaker 2>he I don't think he's reached his potential. I don't

0:59:52.720 --> 0:59:54.720
<v Speaker 2>think he's reached a ceiling of what he could be

0:59:55.320 --> 0:59:58.040
<v Speaker 2>if he was learning how to beat guys like Rom Scheffler,

0:59:58.320 --> 1:00:01.640
<v Speaker 2>more Cawa Hoblin. And that's a bummer because I think

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<v Speaker 2>one of the reasons we watch sports is to watch

1:00:03.520 --> 1:00:07.640
<v Speaker 2>guys a late like attempt to fulfill their potential. And

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<v Speaker 2>Goucha's doing that monetarily, which is great. Again, great for him,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't know that he's doing it on the

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<v Speaker 2>golf side, which I think we would all agree leads

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<v Speaker 2>to winning major championships.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like when you win a championship and the other

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<v Speaker 3>guys are injured, right, and it's like, you still got

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<v Speaker 3>the championship. I mean, I think about the Toronto Championship

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<v Speaker 3>a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>After.

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<v Speaker 3>They were the best team in the NBA that year

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<v Speaker 3>and they were unbelievable, but they played this Warriors team

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<v Speaker 3>that's losing players by the minute, and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 3>that last series wasn't the definable moment you were hoping for.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just you were playing a team that was

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<v Speaker 3>kind of you know, littered with injury, and all of

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<v Speaker 3>a sudden, you kind of walk into the into the championship.

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<v Speaker 2>There you're gonna go out to my rockets next, aren't

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<v Speaker 2>you winning championships?

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<v Speaker 5>Never? Noj was playing baseball.

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<v Speaker 4>It's fine, Just what's uh, what's what's your number two?

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<v Speaker 4>Who's that for number two? I feel like it's a bacon, bacon,

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<v Speaker 4>you go all right? My number two is Victor Hovland.

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<v Speaker 4>He made thirty four plus million dollars playing golf this year.

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<v Speaker 1>He earned us as much as goo.

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<v Speaker 4>He earned one point series effectively one point five million

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<v Speaker 4>for every event he teed it up in and uh

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<v Speaker 4>and twenty thousand dollars for every hole he played, five

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<v Speaker 4>thousand dollars per shot. Kind of crazy, insane obviously. Then

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like on top of the FedEx Cup and

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<v Speaker 4>he was awesome. I think there's a big question like

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<v Speaker 4>about you know, you look at him as like can

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<v Speaker 4>he be a major championship player? And then he plays

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<v Speaker 4>great in the majors. He didn't win one, but it's like, God,

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<v Speaker 4>he's on like your short list maybe top five guys.

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<v Speaker 4>He took chipping, he was an awful, awful chipper and

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<v Speaker 4>he's become a good chipper of the golf ball. Like,

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<v Speaker 4>you look at this guy and it feels like he

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<v Speaker 4>is built to continue to get better for the next

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<v Speaker 4>five years, and I don't think that's like every player.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we fall into the trap with golf, and

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<v Speaker 4>it happens from like a junior level. Is who's the

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<v Speaker 4>best at at fourteen doesn't mean they're gonna be the

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<v Speaker 4>best at eighteen. Who's the best at twenty two isn't

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be the best at twenty six. To me, Victor

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<v Speaker 4>Holin's a guy that like he seems to progress every

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<v Speaker 4>year and seems to continue to get better, and that's

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<v Speaker 4>a scary thing when you're already one of the best

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<v Speaker 4>players in the world. Also hearing reports that, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the single Victor Holin, single man is is potentially dipping

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<v Speaker 4>his toe of getting out of the still water singles

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<v Speaker 4>market and you know and so and moving to South Florida.

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<v Speaker 4>So that could be really good for his personal life

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<v Speaker 4>in twenty twenty three or bad or bad?

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<v Speaker 3>That bubbling that bubble in Oklahoma my play.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I used to comment on any of this.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll say this about the chipping and Kyle at the

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<v Speaker 3>Ryder Cup. You know, you think about all this stuff

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<v Speaker 3>we said about Victor around the greens and first hole

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<v Speaker 3>of the first match, and he chips in and you

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<v Speaker 3>go just a different dude. Like the confidence is just

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<v Speaker 3>at a completely different place. It's almost like he's a

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<v Speaker 3>different human, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and he's so I think it's a I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's very, very difficult to rise to the level that

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<v Speaker 2>he's risen to and maintain your likability in the way

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<v Speaker 2>that he has. He's almost more beloved now than when

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<v Speaker 2>you know, people knew about him as the twenty fifth

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<v Speaker 2>best player in the world, and he's just he's he's

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<v Speaker 2>very marketable, very likable, and I'm very interesting. He changed

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<v Speaker 2>my mind the most about him of anybody in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three. I always have, like one guy a year

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<v Speaker 2>change changes my mind the most about them. I think

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty two is Matt Fitzpatrick Bryson. In twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. You can go back year by year

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<v Speaker 2>for me in twenty three. In twenty twenty three it

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<v Speaker 2>was Victor Hotlin.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a great point.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's crazy too, because like you say that, it's

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<v Speaker 4>like it's not Wyndham Clark who won a US Open

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<v Speaker 4>over Scottie Scheffler and Rory Macklroy, like on Sunday beat

1:04:15.440 --> 1:04:19.000
<v Speaker 4>Rory Macklroy Scottie Scheffler and you know Ricky, I think

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<v Speaker 4>everybody kind of expected what he was going to do happen,

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<v Speaker 4>but like this is a guy, you know, Wyndam Clark.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like he almost made my list, but because

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<v Speaker 4>of like you know, out of nowhere, he wasn't even

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<v Speaker 4>like in big events at yeah, in May of twenty

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<v Speaker 4>twenty three, and now he's in the top ten of

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<v Speaker 4>the world, a major champion.

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<v Speaker 1>Right upper Yeah, Ryder Copper. But like Victor Hovelin.

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<v Speaker 4>To me was was just like what you said, change

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<v Speaker 4>your perception of him as a player this year.

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<v Speaker 3>Andy, my number two were talking NBA earlier, my number

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<v Speaker 3>two Steph Curry.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I almost put him in here.

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<v Speaker 4>I knew you were getting nervous about this when we

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<v Speaker 4>were talking before the KP.

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<v Speaker 3>Before you jumped on. He was asking me Steph stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>So on the golf course, he wins in Tahoe, he

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<v Speaker 3>makes a hole in one that week, and he makes

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<v Speaker 3>an eagle on the last hole, which is legitimately bananas.

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<v Speaker 3>I went back and watched the eagle last night, so

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<v Speaker 3>it's like forty feet he makes on the last green.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like so.

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<v Speaker 5>Silly, but I mean more important. Than obviously his golf is.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, he wins the Charlie Sifferd Award, He's launched

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<v Speaker 3>underrated golf. I mean, he's helped bring golf to the

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<v Speaker 3>Howard University. He's involved in TGL. Like to me, I

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<v Speaker 3>think you and I all, I think all three of

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<v Speaker 3>us probably roll our eyes multiple times a day when

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<v Speaker 3>you hear the term grow the game. But it feels

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<v Speaker 3>like Steph Curry a few years ago was like, what

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<v Speaker 3>can I do with my popularity in life and in

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<v Speaker 3>the United States right now to build golf in areas

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<v Speaker 3>that need golfer could use golf. And I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>he's really done that. And I think it's easy for

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<v Speaker 3>people to do what you're comfortable doing. And when I

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<v Speaker 3>say that, I mean Steph building basketball in areas or

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<v Speaker 3>going out and you know, like rep saving courts that

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<v Speaker 3>need to be repaved. But to just go out and

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<v Speaker 3>branch yourself out into a completely different endeavor is so

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<v Speaker 3>hard to do. And I give him a ton of

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<v Speaker 3>credit for doing all that he's doing. So Steph's my

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<v Speaker 3>number two.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, can we talk about the U s G A

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<v Speaker 4>scheduling for the Sifford Award. Do you know during the

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<v Speaker 4>NBA Finals during the NBA Finals.

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<v Speaker 5>Is that right?

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<v Speaker 1>What I thought you wanted.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought you wanted to talk about like the mid

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<v Speaker 2>am or like the four ball or something.

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<v Speaker 3>When is the When is the fore ball? Is it

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<v Speaker 3>before or after the girls junior?

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<v Speaker 4>The four ball schedule makes no sense to me. Ever,

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<v Speaker 4>you qualify the year before.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been saying I've been saying this either now.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but but but anyways, they they scheduled Steph's big

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<v Speaker 4>thing for the Sifford Award the week of the NBA Finals.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what what are we doing?

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<v Speaker 3>We're you can take that, you can take the ceremony,

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<v Speaker 3>you can roll it out, you can you can talk

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<v Speaker 3>to the NBA. I mean, I think it makes a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of sense because all you can do is just

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<v Speaker 3>lean on the NBA and kind of and kind of

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<v Speaker 3>boost what you're trying to do.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, maybe they're expecting the Hornets to be in the

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<v Speaker 4>other team.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, he could pull the reverse fill

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<v Speaker 2>and just fly from from California to Pinehurst.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I also appreciate you guys are just putting the

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<v Speaker 3>Warriors in the NBA Finals right now.

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<v Speaker 5>This is amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not putting them I'm just saying they got a

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<v Speaker 4>good chance. It's like, what if there's six teams that

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<v Speaker 4>have a chance, they're one of them. Yeah, all right,

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<v Speaker 4>who's your number two? Do you have a hard stop

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<v Speaker 4>or we even could get through this exercise?

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<v Speaker 3>You're good, I got I got ten minutes Warriors, by

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<v Speaker 3>the way, or I have at the fourth best odds

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<v Speaker 3>to win the West right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, basically an injury away from being the favorites.

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<v Speaker 3>That's I don't think that's actually okay.

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<v Speaker 2>My number two is somebody that played in the Ryder Cup.

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<v Speaker 2>But I really latched onto this idea of what Andy

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<v Speaker 2>was talking about or has talked about with Can't and

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<v Speaker 2>and some of these guys of man being in the

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<v Speaker 2>Ryder Cup is such an opportunity for the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>your career. You you were always in forever a writer Cup.

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<v Speaker 2>And so the person that I thought parlayed that better

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<v Speaker 2>than anybody was big shot Bobby mack Wow. Like he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't even I mean, he's like, like, let's just be

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<v Speaker 2>objective here. He's not that good at golf.

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<v Speaker 5>He's just not yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's gonna come after you.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought you thought Memphis was bad, just like the

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<v Speaker 4>people on iron.

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<v Speaker 3>The tweet was actually complimenting Scotland and he's going back

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<v Speaker 3>at Scotland.

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<v Speaker 2>It was port Rush. It was poor Rush.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry sorry, sorry port Rush.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh So, just just just lay of the numbers, look

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<v Speaker 2>at the data golf, look at my number three. He's

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<v Speaker 2>objectively like, not that great at golf, and yet he

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<v Speaker 2>was involved in two of the best golf moments of

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<v Speaker 2>the year. One at the scottischopin nearly beating Rory there

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<v Speaker 2>with the shot of his and anybody else's life from

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<v Speaker 2>the junk with the three would I mean, it was extraordinary.

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<v Speaker 2>And then winning two and a half points at the

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<v Speaker 2>Ryder Cup. That changes your life. I mean it changes

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<v Speaker 2>your year for sure. But it's like what you do

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<v Speaker 2>in ten years is predicated on winning two and a

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<v Speaker 2>half points at the twenty twenty three Ryder Cup. That

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<v Speaker 2>sounds crazy, but over and over again it's proven to

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<v Speaker 2>be true, especially for guys that are not the ROMs

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<v Speaker 2>and Rory's and Tigers of the world. You know, like

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<v Speaker 2>that completely changed your life. And I thought he took

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<v Speaker 2>advantage of a very opportunistic situation this year.

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<v Speaker 3>I think about Jamie Donaldson a lot kp in that

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<v Speaker 3>regard where. Yeah, when you think about Jamie Donaldson's career,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you kind of go to the putt to

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<v Speaker 3>win the Ryder Cup, right, and it's like it's who

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<v Speaker 3>you will be in golf circles for kind of the

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<v Speaker 3>rest of your life. And I think for Bobby Mack,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a real good chance that in twenty years from now,

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<v Speaker 3>when we're talking about his career, twenty twenty three is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be the year we talk about. And to

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<v Speaker 3>your point, the swings that you mentioned are going to

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<v Speaker 3>be kind of the swings that stick out of everything

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<v Speaker 3>else he's done in his career.

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<v Speaker 2>Totally.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Number one, I got a great one.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just go. I'll go. I got somebody I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 2>sure neither of you have ever heard of before as

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<v Speaker 2>my number one. All Right, I'm going back to the goats.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to Taylor Gooch's caddie. Mal Baker is his name.

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<v Speaker 3>This guy, he's got three million bucks.

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<v Speaker 2>This guy signs up with Taylor Googe out of Oklahoma State.

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<v Speaker 2>Taylor Gooch has a fine career at OSU. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how he's been on the bag, but you know

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<v Speaker 2>you're getting on a bag where you're like, oh, this

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<v Speaker 2>guy would be a good PJA tour player for a while,

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<v Speaker 2>I might make a decent living and have a have

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<v Speaker 2>a nice you know, run with him. And now, all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, in the last two years, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>totally sure how to add all this up. We've got

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<v Speaker 2>team money, we've got individual money, you've got signing bonuses,

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<v Speaker 2>You've got I don't I don't know what the numbers are,

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<v Speaker 2>but from what I could put together, Taylor Goridge made

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<v Speaker 2>over forty million dollars over the last two years. So

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<v Speaker 2>if you're this this mal Baker fellow, who's caddying, who's

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<v Speaker 2>carrying the clubs, you don't. One you've made what three

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<v Speaker 2>and a half four million dollars for over two years,

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<v Speaker 2>so you're you're rich by most of our definition of it.

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<v Speaker 2>And two, you can justify the whole Live Saudi thing

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<v Speaker 2>because you just work for Taylor Gooch. You don't even

1:11:34.120 --> 1:11:35.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you don't even work. You don't you're not

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<v Speaker 2>part of the league. Really, you're just carrying your boss's clubs.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's a it's a it's an unbelievable situation

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<v Speaker 2>that he finds himself in, and uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, cons I provide a little interlude here.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, can you imagine how good Rory would be if

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<v Speaker 4>mal Baker was carrying back?

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<v Speaker 2>God?

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<v Speaker 3>Here we go, Here we go.

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<v Speaker 5>Here we are.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe my least favorite comment of of of Eddie and

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<v Speaker 4>Golf is like, can you imagine how good so and

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<v Speaker 4>so would be with so and so?

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<v Speaker 1>Caddy?

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<v Speaker 2>This is your soapbox for one of many, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's one of your top showboxes, KP.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's a great pick. I really do. I

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<v Speaker 3>love where you went with it. I think it's really smart.

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<v Speaker 3>It's maybe been kind of a weird year for caddies

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<v Speaker 3>in general, or maybe a great year for caddies, however

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<v Speaker 3>you want to look at it. But yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's I think this caddies could be a winner here

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<v Speaker 3>in the sphere. It's a really really good pick.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, caddies in general are a winner.

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<v Speaker 4>You go to like, yes, caddies are so I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>caddies are getting for one bag what I used to

1:12:44.000 --> 1:12:47.000
<v Speaker 4>get paid for two. Like I feel like an old

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<v Speaker 4>man now because this is what my dad used to

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<v Speaker 4>say to me when I caddy. I got four dollars

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<v Speaker 4>a bag, you know, but like literally, the rates for

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<v Speaker 4>a regular caddy. I mean, and obviously I'm not trying

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<v Speaker 4>to go after caddy fees here. It costs a lot

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<v Speaker 4>to live in today's bottom Canada.

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<v Speaker 2>Who else have we gone after Scott.

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<v Speaker 3>Oklahoma taking a bit of females and Oklahoma taking a

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<v Speaker 3>shot today.

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<v Speaker 2>So from Oklahoma, by the way, So congrats on that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a tough situation after the pod, I mean, your wife,

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<v Speaker 3>your wife being brought up twice on the pod, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure either she's gonna love, but hey, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what, that's the price you pay.

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<v Speaker 4>You're guessing she's not listening to the the Frida Egg golf.

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<v Speaker 3>She's not this steep into it.

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<v Speaker 2>She she doesn't even read. She reads like one thing

1:13:36.920 --> 1:13:38.840
<v Speaker 2>a year that I write. So she's for sure not

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<v Speaker 2>listening to the Frida Egg podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>My wife came to a live show years ago, probably

1:13:44.760 --> 1:13:47.719
<v Speaker 4>four years ago. It was a shotgun start live show.

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<v Speaker 4>She she had never listened to a podcast before, and afterwards,

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<v Speaker 4>like any podcast or a Friday if any podcast I've

1:13:55.360 --> 1:13:57.360
<v Speaker 4>got a part of. After she was like that was

1:13:57.400 --> 1:13:59.960
<v Speaker 4>so good, and I was like, oh, thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, it's always great when they're like surprised by I

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<v Speaker 2>can't believe how good that was.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow. Yeah, well people listen to this. That's interesting. Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>that's really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>KP.

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<v Speaker 5>I loved your number one.

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<v Speaker 3>My number one to me, I think, okay, guys, we

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<v Speaker 3>love the majors, we love the Ryder Cup, Like this

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<v Speaker 3>is kind of what we live for in this space.

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<v Speaker 3>Right when you cover golf, the non major championship golf

1:14:27.200 --> 1:14:29.439
<v Speaker 3>is not as interested it used to be. Still can

1:14:29.520 --> 1:14:31.679
<v Speaker 3>be interesting, but for the most part it gets interested

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<v Speaker 3>on Saturday and Sundays. This has not been a great

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<v Speaker 3>major year. It is not no on the midside of things.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a sleepy major year, rare if at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Was there interesting stuff happening on the final few holes

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<v Speaker 3>The Ryder Cup, to be fair, wasn't that close. It

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<v Speaker 3>had its moment, as it always does. But I'm flipping

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<v Speaker 3>to the women's side and the LPGA because when I

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<v Speaker 3>think about twenty three, I think the big winner of

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<v Speaker 3>the year is Lily Avo. She's now world number one,

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<v Speaker 3>she won two majors. In twenty twenty three, she took

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<v Speaker 3>the mantle as the best American women's golfer in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>She won another event in twenty three. She's been a

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<v Speaker 3>second a couple of weeks ago. Didn't have her best

1:15:06.840 --> 1:15:09.200
<v Speaker 3>solimn Cup, but she did win her singles match, which

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<v Speaker 3>few American players were able to do. I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>twenty three was the year of Lilya. I think she

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<v Speaker 3>deserves the flowers for what she did in the major championships.

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<v Speaker 3>And again going back to what I said on the

1:15:20.200 --> 1:15:22.600
<v Speaker 3>men's side, nothing stands out on the men's side. I

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<v Speaker 3>think Lilia was excellent on the women's side, and she's

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<v Speaker 3>my number one story in person of twenty twenty three

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<v Speaker 3>in golf.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, I think this is a little premature

1:15:32.360 --> 1:15:34.479
<v Speaker 4>because she hasn't won the race to the CME Globe

1:15:34.520 --> 1:15:38.320
<v Speaker 4>yet fair enough, but yes, she was in contention for

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<v Speaker 4>one of my spots, would have been one of my

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<v Speaker 4>honorable mentions. Has had a fantastic year and I think

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<v Speaker 4>it kind of came out of nowhere too, right, which

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<v Speaker 4>is extra Like you always love those you know runs

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<v Speaker 4>in the number one that you didn't see coming at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, what was she ranked at the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning of the year. I mean, she was a give

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<v Speaker 2>me a moment. I presume she was like a top

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<v Speaker 2>what forty player, but not like a top five.

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<v Speaker 3>Her worst ranking this year KP this year was forty

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<v Speaker 3>third this year. Yeah, so at some point in twenty

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<v Speaker 3>three she was ranked forty third, which seems wild and

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it doesn't necessarily seem like it's totally accurate,

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<v Speaker 3>but I mean, going back to like the summer, going

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<v Speaker 3>back to la she was ranked twelfth in the world.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, guys, that would be like Sepstraca becoming

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<v Speaker 4>the number one player in the world next year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Min see who Kim.

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<v Speaker 2>Min wy is currently ranked forty third.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean if you go to there, if you

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<v Speaker 3>go to if you go to early twenty three, I

1:16:47.040 --> 1:16:50.000
<v Speaker 3>see she was ranked thirty third, So I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>like maybe it's accurate, maybe it's not, but I mean

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<v Speaker 3>early year the top thirty in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>What if Corey Connors was the number one player in

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<v Speaker 1>the world at this time year?

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<v Speaker 3>Do?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, when does go to the broom?

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<v Speaker 4>I should have had the broom putter as one of

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<v Speaker 4>one of the things on my five, just.

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<v Speaker 5>That one that everybody used to win.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, all right, my last one. I can't believe it's

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<v Speaker 4>not on your list. Maybe you kept it off because

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<v Speaker 4>you do be number one on my list is our

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<v Speaker 4>our friend, Blockie boy, Michael Block, the number one winner

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<v Speaker 4>in golf this year. I think it's gonna be extraordinary.

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<v Speaker 4>I I think it's an amazing thing. This is an

1:17:35.520 --> 1:17:39.280
<v Speaker 4>amazing thing about the PGA in general, that that you

1:17:39.400 --> 1:17:44.360
<v Speaker 4>have this wrinkle with club pros. It's amazing for a

1:17:44.400 --> 1:17:48.559
<v Speaker 4>guy who's, you know, in his mid forties to go

1:17:48.640 --> 1:17:52.200
<v Speaker 4>out and finish fifteenth in a major to effectively have

1:17:52.680 --> 1:17:56.559
<v Speaker 4>the greatest golf week of his life and the most

1:17:56.600 --> 1:17:59.960
<v Speaker 4>important golf week of his life. That intersection rarely happen.

1:18:00.400 --> 1:18:04.880
<v Speaker 4>It rarely happens for anyone. But then this whole thing,

1:18:05.000 --> 1:18:09.960
<v Speaker 4>this Block phenomenon, this happened afterwards. It's just it's unlike

1:18:10.000 --> 1:18:13.639
<v Speaker 4>anything I've ever seen before. I mean, I think this

1:18:13.720 --> 1:18:16.719
<v Speaker 4>is not gonna end anytime soon. I think four years

1:18:16.720 --> 1:18:20.280
<v Speaker 4>from now, Michael Block's still gonna be making appearances at

1:18:20.320 --> 1:18:23.080
<v Speaker 4>like sporting events. So he's at the Anaheim Ducks game

1:18:23.400 --> 1:18:25.960
<v Speaker 4>the other day. It's like, what's the cross section of

1:18:26.000 --> 1:18:29.280
<v Speaker 4>hockey fans Michael Block fans? But like four years from now,

1:18:29.320 --> 1:18:31.040
<v Speaker 4>these things are still gonna be going on and people

1:18:31.080 --> 1:18:34.559
<v Speaker 4>are gonna be like, wait, what did who's Michael Block? Oh,

1:18:34.600 --> 1:18:37.519
<v Speaker 4>he made a whole one and finished ten fifteenth at

1:18:37.560 --> 1:18:40.679
<v Speaker 4>the PGA four years ago. But he has definitely made

1:18:40.720 --> 1:18:43.879
<v Speaker 4>the most. It is a story of having your fifteen

1:18:43.920 --> 1:18:46.160
<v Speaker 4>minutes of fame, maybe more than fifteen. It was like

1:18:46.200 --> 1:18:50.439
<v Speaker 4>three days of fame and just and just getting everything

1:18:50.479 --> 1:18:52.680
<v Speaker 4>out of it. I mean, and I think for all

1:18:52.680 --> 1:18:56.720
<v Speaker 4>intensive purposes, his personality has been terrific for it. He

1:18:56.800 --> 1:19:02.400
<v Speaker 4>has the right demeanor, the right attitude to effectively ingratiate

1:19:02.640 --> 1:19:06.000
<v Speaker 4>himself with all these different organizations they now works with. Like,

1:19:06.360 --> 1:19:10.160
<v Speaker 4>it has been a crazy run for Michael block and

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty three will always be the year.

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<v Speaker 1>For a Blocky.

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<v Speaker 2>For me, what do you think he tells people that

1:19:16.000 --> 1:19:17.599
<v Speaker 2>he does, Like when he's at a party.

1:19:17.640 --> 1:19:20.759
<v Speaker 1>I used to think, is is he a pro golfer anymore?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, That's what I'm saying, is like when when when

1:19:22.920 --> 1:19:24.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm at a party and somebody's like, what do you do?

1:19:24.360 --> 1:19:28.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I write about golf that in my spare time.

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<v Speaker 2>I catch it. Yeah. Uh. But when he's at a

1:19:31.400 --> 1:19:33.160
<v Speaker 2>party and somebody's like, hey, what do you do? I mean,

1:19:33.360 --> 1:19:36.720
<v Speaker 2>is does he say I'm I'm a I'm an in Like, Like,

1:19:36.720 --> 1:19:39.559
<v Speaker 2>what is his what's his deal, what's his role?

1:19:40.520 --> 1:19:43.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like it's it's it's gotta be pro golfer.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, I mean it's easy to forget how awesome

1:19:47.320 --> 1:19:49.840
<v Speaker 3>that Sunday was at the PGA because of all that's

1:19:49.840 --> 1:19:52.679
<v Speaker 3>happened since and like the Rory comments and things like that,

1:19:52.760 --> 1:19:55.000
<v Speaker 3>but like it was, it was my favorite moment of

1:19:55.040 --> 1:19:56.760
<v Speaker 3>the broadcast the whole year that I was a part of.

1:19:56.800 --> 1:19:57.880
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I'm on.

1:19:57.760 --> 1:20:00.800
<v Speaker 3>The featured whole coverage for esp Plus or whatever and

1:20:00.840 --> 1:20:03.160
<v Speaker 3>he flies it in the hole. It's like I went bananas.

1:20:03.200 --> 1:20:05.479
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it was just so much fun to see

1:20:05.479 --> 1:20:08.360
<v Speaker 3>that happen. And Andy, I mean, you and I had

1:20:08.439 --> 1:20:11.320
<v Speaker 3>dreams back in the day of like maybe playing golf

1:20:11.320 --> 1:20:13.960
<v Speaker 3>for living, or maybe we qualify for this or that.

1:20:15.120 --> 1:20:17.519
<v Speaker 3>Michael Block's like the best case scenario. Yes, what we

1:20:17.640 --> 1:20:18.000
<v Speaker 3>thought of.

1:20:18.960 --> 1:20:21.040
<v Speaker 1>It's insane. I mean, like that's the thing.

1:20:21.200 --> 1:20:25.080
<v Speaker 4>Like, I just think that because of everything that's happened,

1:20:25.600 --> 1:20:28.320
<v Speaker 4>one of the things that's gonna become like under talked

1:20:28.320 --> 1:20:31.560
<v Speaker 4>about and underrated is what he actually did.

1:20:31.760 --> 1:20:32.760
<v Speaker 1>At that DGA.

1:20:33.000 --> 1:20:33.479
<v Speaker 5>That's right.

1:20:34.360 --> 1:20:37.360
<v Speaker 4>He hit at two sixty on this course that rewarded

1:20:37.439 --> 1:20:41.080
<v Speaker 4>distance too, and he finished ten fifteen, he hits it nowhere.

1:20:42.320 --> 1:20:44.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean, like I wonder, sometimes we live in a

1:20:45.080 --> 1:20:47.800
<v Speaker 3>we live in a world now where if there's a

1:20:47.840 --> 1:20:52.760
<v Speaker 3>glimmer of fame or potential, everybody's gonna come and try

1:20:52.760 --> 1:20:54.720
<v Speaker 3>to grab a piece of it, right, And it's up

1:20:54.760 --> 1:20:57.400
<v Speaker 3>to you and your representation or your team around you

1:20:57.760 --> 1:20:59.800
<v Speaker 3>to kind of, you know, filter through what you want

1:20:59.800 --> 1:21:01.200
<v Speaker 3>to do and what you don't want to do. And

1:21:01.240 --> 1:21:04.080
<v Speaker 3>I think it's so easy to say yes to everything

1:21:04.120 --> 1:21:08.280
<v Speaker 3>because with everything comes money and finances and stability and

1:21:08.320 --> 1:21:12.600
<v Speaker 3>whatever the case may be. I wonder if for Blockie,

1:21:13.040 --> 1:21:18.599
<v Speaker 3>if just peace Sia, I'm gonna forever be this legend

1:21:18.640 --> 1:21:21.040
<v Speaker 3>of golf that played so well at this golf course

1:21:21.040 --> 1:21:23.360
<v Speaker 3>I shouldn't have played well at But every time he

1:21:23.439 --> 1:21:25.720
<v Speaker 3>teas it up and plays in these golf tournaments and

1:21:25.840 --> 1:21:30.200
<v Speaker 3>doesn't play well, it's a reminder of how incredible Andy

1:21:30.240 --> 1:21:32.200
<v Speaker 3>to your point, what he was able to do at

1:21:32.200 --> 1:21:36.519
<v Speaker 3>Oakhill was actually what it actually was, right. It's like

1:21:36.560 --> 1:21:38.360
<v Speaker 3>you go play in some of these other golf tournaments

1:21:38.520 --> 1:21:40.960
<v Speaker 3>that maybe make more sense for your golf game, and

1:21:41.000 --> 1:21:43.640
<v Speaker 3>you shoot seventy eight or eighty and you miss the

1:21:43.680 --> 1:21:46.120
<v Speaker 3>cut and it almost kind of pulls away from what

1:21:46.120 --> 1:21:48.839
<v Speaker 3>you're able to do. It's like John Daly at Crooked

1:21:48.880 --> 1:21:51.720
<v Speaker 3>Stick in the modern world, right, or Daily pops up

1:21:51.760 --> 1:21:54.760
<v Speaker 3>wins the PGA, and you're like that cannot happen. And

1:21:54.800 --> 1:21:57.960
<v Speaker 3>for John Daily, he was just able to his talent

1:21:58.080 --> 1:21:58.919
<v Speaker 3>was able to carry.

1:21:58.720 --> 1:22:00.840
<v Speaker 5>Him through to more success.

1:22:01.120 --> 1:22:04.080
<v Speaker 3>And for Blockie it was only gonna be a disappointment

1:22:04.080 --> 1:22:05.600
<v Speaker 3>on the golf course after what he was able to

1:22:05.640 --> 1:22:06.160
<v Speaker 3>do with that peach.

1:22:06.240 --> 1:22:10.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I do wonder like how just objectively, how good

1:22:11.680 --> 1:22:14.000
<v Speaker 2>he actually, like, like how much better at golf is

1:22:14.040 --> 1:22:16.040
<v Speaker 2>he than somebody like you, Shane, you know you.

1:22:16.280 --> 1:22:18.680
<v Speaker 5>Call it that way better, like like a mile like

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<v Speaker 5>miles better?

1:22:20.439 --> 1:22:22.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Oh, I mean, like but he like like Kyle

1:22:22.800 --> 1:22:25.320
<v Speaker 3>the numbers he post and like how he's able to

1:22:25.360 --> 1:22:28.400
<v Speaker 3>casually go out there and shoot sixty two and sixty

1:22:28.439 --> 1:22:31.479
<v Speaker 3>three and sixty four play in his club or wherever.

1:22:31.680 --> 1:22:35.040
<v Speaker 3>I mean, he is an unbelievable golfer. This is like

1:22:35.280 --> 1:22:37.920
<v Speaker 3>the Stu Hagastad question, Right, you get asked to lap

1:22:38.080 --> 1:22:40.880
<v Speaker 3>how good is Stu Hagastad, Like Stu Hagastad is an

1:22:41.120 --> 1:22:46.839
<v Speaker 3>unbelievable like like best player in certain states level of golfer.

1:22:46.880 --> 1:22:50.960
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying, Yeah, yeah, but he's yeah,

1:22:50.960 --> 1:22:54.759
<v Speaker 2>but he but he's like so far from the guys

1:22:54.760 --> 1:22:56.559
<v Speaker 2>that he beat that.

1:22:57.479 --> 1:23:01.839
<v Speaker 4>Well, I I don't know. I I think like Michael Block,

1:23:02.520 --> 1:23:09.799
<v Speaker 4>So I think this is a valuable comparison. So for years,

1:23:10.640 --> 1:23:13.960
<v Speaker 4>so Michael Block's running rough shot over the Southern or

1:23:14.360 --> 1:23:21.720
<v Speaker 4>Southern California PGA section great player section, like great players.

1:23:22.760 --> 1:23:29.080
<v Speaker 4>Mike Small like absolutely utterly dominated the Illinois PGA section

1:23:29.200 --> 1:23:31.679
<v Speaker 4>for a while and during this time, so Mike Small

1:23:31.760 --> 1:23:34.880
<v Speaker 4>is the head coach of the U I team during

1:23:34.920 --> 1:23:36.680
<v Speaker 4>like a period of time, I think it was like

1:23:36.880 --> 1:23:40.760
<v Speaker 4>around like four to nine, Mike Small had like the

1:23:40.800 --> 1:23:44.720
<v Speaker 4>second best made cuts percentage on the PGA Tour to

1:23:45.200 --> 1:23:49.120
<v Speaker 4>Tiger Woods at the same period of time. I'm not

1:23:49.240 --> 1:23:51.280
<v Speaker 4>saying I think Mike Small is probably a better player

1:23:51.280 --> 1:23:53.639
<v Speaker 4>than Michael Block. Like Mike Small was out there making

1:23:53.640 --> 1:23:56.800
<v Speaker 4>cuts and PGAs and doing this stuff while also like

1:23:56.920 --> 1:24:00.599
<v Speaker 4>coaching a golf program where he's you know, so anyways,

1:24:00.720 --> 1:24:03.200
<v Speaker 4>I think he's a very good player, Like could he

1:24:03.280 --> 1:24:06.640
<v Speaker 4>be a good like a could he compete on like

1:24:06.720 --> 1:24:07.200
<v Speaker 4>maybe the.

1:24:08.920 --> 1:24:10.519
<v Speaker 1>What do they call it, the Americas Tour?

1:24:10.640 --> 1:24:10.840
<v Speaker 2>Now?

1:24:11.120 --> 1:24:13.760
<v Speaker 4>Probably like I think he could go play there, and

1:24:13.920 --> 1:24:17.280
<v Speaker 4>but like, I think he makes more money playing. I

1:24:17.360 --> 1:24:20.040
<v Speaker 4>think he's playing where he makes the most money. He's

1:24:20.080 --> 1:24:22.439
<v Speaker 4>not good enough to be a PGA Tour player, but

1:24:22.960 --> 1:24:26.240
<v Speaker 4>these section events can be very very lucrative, right, Like

1:24:26.280 --> 1:24:29.040
<v Speaker 4>if you if you're the best player in your section there,

1:24:29.120 --> 1:24:31.400
<v Speaker 4>there's good money to be had on top of doing

1:24:31.439 --> 1:24:32.800
<v Speaker 4>other things right, And he.

1:24:32.920 --> 1:24:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Like he said during the week, he doesn't even go.

1:24:35.080 --> 1:24:38.759
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't teach, you know, He's like, I give lessons

1:24:38.800 --> 1:24:40.280
<v Speaker 1>to like just the people I like.

1:24:40.439 --> 1:24:43.760
<v Speaker 3>Right, if I set the over under on Champs Tour

1:24:43.840 --> 1:24:46.320
<v Speaker 3>starts for Michael Block at forty five and a half,

1:24:46.400 --> 1:24:48.639
<v Speaker 3>or you take an over or under.

1:24:48.160 --> 1:24:49.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean, does he have to qull how does he

1:24:49.600 --> 1:24:49.880
<v Speaker 2>get in?

1:24:50.040 --> 1:24:55.080
<v Speaker 4>Well, he's keep in mind his one exemption. His first

1:24:55.120 --> 1:24:58.559
<v Speaker 4>exemption was the Charles Schwab and they run the Champions Tour,

1:24:58.680 --> 1:25:00.519
<v Speaker 4>so will Center to be there?

1:25:00.920 --> 1:25:04.960
<v Speaker 2>Interesting? I think you guys know Spencer Hall's idea that

1:25:05.439 --> 1:25:07.519
<v Speaker 2>there should be a regular human that swims in the

1:25:07.520 --> 1:25:10.400
<v Speaker 2>Olympics and runs in like the four hundred and stuff.

1:25:10.960 --> 1:25:14.320
<v Speaker 2>I think I think Bacon's job going forward should be

1:25:14.479 --> 1:25:17.240
<v Speaker 2>to just travel around and play in tour events. And

1:25:17.280 --> 1:25:19.880
<v Speaker 2>then but in your downtime you go play with I

1:25:19.880 --> 1:25:23.240
<v Speaker 2>mean we I've played with you, your your well both

1:25:23.240 --> 1:25:26.760
<v Speaker 2>of you guys, but Beacan's probably the best, best like

1:25:26.880 --> 1:25:30.599
<v Speaker 2>amateur I've ever played with. And to see what would

1:25:30.640 --> 1:25:33.080
<v Speaker 2>happen if you went out like in the PGA Championship,

1:25:33.080 --> 1:25:35.960
<v Speaker 2>I think it would blow people's minds, Like like the

1:25:36.040 --> 1:25:40.280
<v Speaker 2>differentiation between you who They'd be like, oh, this guy's awesome,

1:25:40.400 --> 1:25:44.479
<v Speaker 2>and even a Michael Block or and then obviously beyond that,

1:25:44.560 --> 1:25:49.360
<v Speaker 2>I think it would just be like shocking to witness.

1:25:48.560 --> 1:25:51.400
<v Speaker 3>The setup at Cherry Hills for the Amateur this year

1:25:51.640 --> 1:25:55.840
<v Speaker 3>and having to in a tournament environment, having to try

1:25:55.880 --> 1:25:58.679
<v Speaker 3>to figure out how to just hit certain golf shots.

1:25:59.120 --> 1:26:02.599
<v Speaker 3>It was like one of the weirdest moments I've ever

1:26:02.640 --> 1:26:05.519
<v Speaker 3>had in my life, was standing over a golf ball, going,

1:26:05.920 --> 1:26:08.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't even know how to get this ball out

1:26:08.960 --> 1:26:11.360
<v Speaker 3>of this lie, you know. I mean, it was such

1:26:11.400 --> 1:26:16.600
<v Speaker 3>a shock to the system of what I thought championship

1:26:16.600 --> 1:26:19.920
<v Speaker 3>golf would feel like versus what it actually feels like.

1:26:20.000 --> 1:26:23.599
<v Speaker 3>I mean, everything I'd ever thought about US Opens I've covered,

1:26:23.680 --> 1:26:25.960
<v Speaker 3>and US amateurs I've covered, and you see a guy

1:26:26.000 --> 1:26:28.840
<v Speaker 3>make a six and match play and you'd kind of

1:26:29.160 --> 1:26:31.080
<v Speaker 3>criticize him maybe a bit as he was walking to

1:26:31.120 --> 1:26:34.120
<v Speaker 3>the next tee. And then you're in that moment and

1:26:34.160 --> 1:26:37.439
<v Speaker 3>it's like, this isn't even the same sport, Like I'm

1:26:37.479 --> 1:26:40.719
<v Speaker 3>not what I'm being asked to do on this golf

1:26:40.720 --> 1:26:44.760
<v Speaker 3>course in these conditions. It's not even tournament golf. It's

1:26:44.800 --> 1:26:48.200
<v Speaker 3>like a completely different you know, it's a different layer

1:26:48.200 --> 1:26:50.080
<v Speaker 3>that I've never seen. It's like how you know, you

1:26:50.720 --> 1:26:53.320
<v Speaker 3>you think you've been to the VIP room, and then

1:26:53.320 --> 1:26:56.360
<v Speaker 3>it's like no, no, no, no, no, there's like another room

1:26:56.520 --> 1:27:00.320
<v Speaker 3>that the like real celebrities go to that they don't

1:27:00.320 --> 1:27:03.759
<v Speaker 3>even open the door for somebody that's not Lebron or Shaq,

1:27:04.280 --> 1:27:07.439
<v Speaker 3>you know, or Lady Gaga. It's like that's a different

1:27:07.520 --> 1:27:10.600
<v Speaker 3>level of experience. I mean, that's what it kind of

1:27:10.600 --> 1:27:12.559
<v Speaker 3>felt like to me. It was just it was And

1:27:12.560 --> 1:27:14.519
<v Speaker 3>then you know, you'd see these guy likes Garrett, like

1:27:14.680 --> 1:27:18.040
<v Speaker 3>Gordon Sargent goes out and shoots like sixty eight and

1:27:18.080 --> 1:27:20.040
<v Speaker 3>you go, wait, wait, wait, what the hell? Like when

1:27:20.120 --> 1:27:22.080
<v Speaker 3>when Hagastad had to battle back after I made the

1:27:22.120 --> 1:27:26.600
<v Speaker 3>ten at Colorado Golf and he shot like four or

1:27:26.680 --> 1:27:30.160
<v Speaker 3>five under at Cherry, you know, and you're going, I mean, like,

1:27:30.280 --> 1:27:32.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm my goal is to break eighty, you know, Like

1:27:32.720 --> 1:27:34.680
<v Speaker 3>my goal starting the day is like I just want

1:27:34.720 --> 1:27:37.000
<v Speaker 3>to break eighty here, you know. And these other guys

1:27:37.080 --> 1:27:39.080
<v Speaker 3>have the have the skill set to be able to

1:27:39.080 --> 1:27:41.240
<v Speaker 3>go out there and still shoot four or five under well.

1:27:41.240 --> 1:27:43.160
<v Speaker 2>And this is the I think this is one of

1:27:43.160 --> 1:27:46.519
<v Speaker 2>my favorite things about golf in general, is that you

1:27:46.600 --> 1:27:50.840
<v Speaker 2>will never understand how good Derreck Henry is because you

1:27:52.040 --> 1:27:56.200
<v Speaker 2>can't go play recreational football, right right, So there's no

1:27:56.439 --> 1:28:00.400
<v Speaker 2>there's no relationship with how good he is to how

1:28:00.400 --> 1:28:02.720
<v Speaker 2>good you are. But there is a relationship between how

1:28:02.760 --> 1:28:05.400
<v Speaker 2>good you are and how good Nick Dunlap is, and

1:28:05.439 --> 1:28:08.840
<v Speaker 2>then how good you know Ben Griffin, how much better

1:28:08.840 --> 1:28:12.360
<v Speaker 2>Ben Griffin is than Nick Dunlap, and then beyond you know,

1:28:12.479 --> 1:28:17.840
<v Speaker 2>like there's that relationship I think makes golf. It's not relatable,

1:28:17.960 --> 1:28:20.080
<v Speaker 2>that's not the right word, but there is a relationship

1:28:20.080 --> 1:28:22.360
<v Speaker 2>there that gives you an appreciation for all of this

1:28:22.840 --> 1:28:24.880
<v Speaker 2>that you I don't think you get in any other sport.

1:28:25.680 --> 1:28:27.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree.

1:28:27.280 --> 1:28:30.120
<v Speaker 4>I don't get asked to this anymore because that's probably

1:28:30.120 --> 1:28:33.840
<v Speaker 4>a good barometer of where my golf game's at these days.

1:28:33.880 --> 1:28:36.600
<v Speaker 4>But people always used to ask, like, what what's the

1:28:36.640 --> 1:28:39.479
<v Speaker 4>difference between you and a tour pro? And I'm like,

1:28:39.560 --> 1:28:43.639
<v Speaker 4>they're literally way better at every single aspect of golf

1:28:43.680 --> 1:28:46.840
<v Speaker 4>than me. And I think that's like, you know, like

1:28:47.080 --> 1:28:49.880
<v Speaker 4>Bacon hits the shit out of the ball like murders it,

1:28:50.280 --> 1:28:53.280
<v Speaker 4>but you'd be a below average driver of the golf

1:28:53.280 --> 1:28:56.240
<v Speaker 4>ball and the PGA Tour because of like accuracy, right,

1:28:56.280 --> 1:28:59.639
<v Speaker 4>Like I mean absolutely, I mean it, and it's like crazy,

1:28:59.760 --> 1:29:03.519
<v Speaker 4>you hit it three twenty easy, Like it's like this

1:29:03.640 --> 1:29:06.400
<v Speaker 4>is like this is what people don't understand. It's like

1:29:06.479 --> 1:29:09.040
<v Speaker 4>you could hit it really far, but like those guys

1:29:09.120 --> 1:29:10.640
<v Speaker 4>hit it so straight.

1:29:10.920 --> 1:29:12.519
<v Speaker 3>Like the great drivers of the golf ball hit it

1:29:12.560 --> 1:29:14.720
<v Speaker 3>so straight. I mean I've told this story before, but

1:29:14.800 --> 1:29:17.920
<v Speaker 3>during the pandemic, Max and I would play this money

1:29:17.960 --> 1:29:19.840
<v Speaker 3>game in Arizona every Monday because it was like one

1:29:19.840 --> 1:29:21.160
<v Speaker 3>of the only things you could do right was go

1:29:21.200 --> 1:29:24.240
<v Speaker 3>play golf. And this golf course is in central Phoenix,

1:29:24.360 --> 1:29:26.640
<v Speaker 3>is called Papago and it's got three part threes that

1:29:26.680 --> 1:29:30.200
<v Speaker 3>are two thirty plus, you know, And I mean Andy

1:29:30.240 --> 1:29:31.400
<v Speaker 3>and I are standing on the tee of a two

1:29:31.439 --> 1:29:33.200
<v Speaker 3>hundred and thirty five yard part three, and it's like

1:29:33.680 --> 1:29:35.920
<v Speaker 3>try to hit the green, you know, or or try

1:29:35.960 --> 1:29:37.599
<v Speaker 3>to miss it in the right spot where you can

1:29:37.680 --> 1:29:40.320
<v Speaker 3>maybe make three. And my buddy Ashton would play with us,

1:29:40.320 --> 1:29:42.439
<v Speaker 3>who played college golf and played many tour golf and

1:29:42.560 --> 1:29:46.360
<v Speaker 3>is unbelievable, and we would literally be laughing to ourselves

1:29:46.400 --> 1:29:49.080
<v Speaker 3>walking off the tee at how close Max would hit

1:29:49.120 --> 1:29:52.200
<v Speaker 3>it with this four iron and five iron every single time.

1:29:52.280 --> 1:29:55.920
<v Speaker 3>This wasn't one shot around, this was all three of

1:29:55.920 --> 1:29:59.040
<v Speaker 3>the par threes we'd play where Max is hitting three iron,

1:29:59.080 --> 1:30:02.000
<v Speaker 3>four iron, five iron into these par threes and he's

1:30:02.040 --> 1:30:04.000
<v Speaker 3>hitting at ten feet and he's hitting a whole high

1:30:04.280 --> 1:30:08.000
<v Speaker 3>ten feet and it was just the the approach with

1:30:08.080 --> 1:30:11.800
<v Speaker 3>his mind was just so different, like his expectation was

1:30:11.880 --> 1:30:14.120
<v Speaker 3>almost a different game, you know, not just what he

1:30:14.160 --> 1:30:15.760
<v Speaker 3>was able to do with the golf ball, but the

1:30:15.840 --> 1:30:18.639
<v Speaker 3>expectation on what I'm going to do on this part

1:30:18.720 --> 1:30:21.120
<v Speaker 3>three was I'm going to give myself a chance at two,

1:30:21.240 --> 1:30:24.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, and we're just we're trying, we're trying helplessly

1:30:24.320 --> 1:30:25.080
<v Speaker 3>to not make five.

1:30:26.000 --> 1:30:28.280
<v Speaker 2>I played in a pro am with with Ricky one

1:30:28.320 --> 1:30:32.160
<v Speaker 2>year at Colonial No.

1:30:34.640 --> 1:30:35.760
<v Speaker 1>Ricky Barnes.

1:30:40.400 --> 1:30:42.599
<v Speaker 3>Kfie is the one guy that hadn't worked with Barnesy

1:30:42.600 --> 1:30:44.120
<v Speaker 3>on a telecast on this podcast.

1:30:46.160 --> 1:30:48.280
<v Speaker 1>We didn't get it. You never worked with a man

1:30:48.360 --> 1:30:52.760
<v Speaker 1>that's called twenty minutes about college golf. Should have called

1:30:52.800 --> 1:30:54.000
<v Speaker 1>him in facility.

1:30:54.680 --> 1:30:58.640
<v Speaker 2>So the Oklahoma State Ricky is the one that I

1:30:58.680 --> 1:31:01.680
<v Speaker 2>played with. And the power. You know, you see these

1:31:01.680 --> 1:31:04.040
<v Speaker 2>guys and you're like, oh, they're just crazy long, and

1:31:04.080 --> 1:31:06.160
<v Speaker 2>that is true. They do have a lot of power.

1:31:06.960 --> 1:31:09.840
<v Speaker 2>But are you gonna be okay? Andy?

1:31:10.960 --> 1:31:13.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm just remembering walking down. I think I was on

1:31:13.200 --> 1:31:15.679
<v Speaker 1>the eighth fell of the Pacific Dudes when he started

1:31:15.720 --> 1:31:19.640
<v Speaker 1>talking about about about college golf facilities and then I

1:31:19.680 --> 1:31:21.080
<v Speaker 1>was on the ninth fairway when.

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<v Speaker 3>He Love Ricky Barnes.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Ricky Barnes. He was great. He was a

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<v Speaker 1>great person to work with. But I'll never forget that moment.

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<v Speaker 5>Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, It's not the power, it's the it's the control.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the the amount of control those guys have over

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<v Speaker 2>their ball is like their misses for us would be

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<v Speaker 2>an amazing dispersion rate, right and and and it's just

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<v Speaker 2>that that was the part that blew me away, is

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<v Speaker 2>how much they were able to control the all in

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<v Speaker 2>the air, even though they had already hit they'd already

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<v Speaker 2>hit it, and it was almost like they were still

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<v Speaker 2>controlling it. Which is it's a It's an unbelievable trait

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<v Speaker 2>that I think most of the top guys in the

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<v Speaker 2>world have.

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<v Speaker 3>Before we go, Andy had a question for you in

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<v Speaker 3>KP as well. We're all wearing hats here. We are

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<v Speaker 3>all baseball cap guys. I'd say for the rest of

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<v Speaker 3>your life, I give you either get the Ricky Barnes

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<v Speaker 3>cap or the yakubs and hat, and you have to

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<v Speaker 3>wear those only going forward. Which one are you picking?

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<v Speaker 2>Can I choose to not to not wear a hat? Go?

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<v Speaker 5>No hat? Did you never?

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<v Speaker 1>I'll never wear a hat again over those two?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Same?

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<v Speaker 3>Is the upper Deck sponsorship on his flip cap the

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<v Speaker 3>best of all time?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>For one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's hard to beat. I I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I love the Paint Stewart NFL sponsorship so goodt that.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the the uh Nike logo on seven seven

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<v Speaker 2>visor the double Nike was sweet. I would not wear

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<v Speaker 2>a hat, but if I had to pick one of those,

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<v Speaker 2>I would pick. I would pick the the Yes, the

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<v Speaker 2>yes per part of it. I can't. I can't do

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<v Speaker 2>the painter hat like I I cannot do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I take the I think I take the

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<v Speaker 1>painters I can't. I mean, you couldn't wear.

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<v Speaker 4>The flip up anywhere, like, but you could go to

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<v Speaker 4>a golf course with the flip up and people might

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<v Speaker 4>be like, oh, that's a yes for part of it. Cat,

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't seen that in years with the Dutch Boy,

1:33:41.200 --> 1:33:43.680
<v Speaker 4>the Dutch Boy Barnes hat. Like I feel like you

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<v Speaker 4>could go to like a hipster coffee shop and be okay,

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<v Speaker 4>Like you could go out.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not two thousand and two.

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<v Speaker 3>How many people do you think would tell you your bill

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<v Speaker 3>was flipped up if you were that in casual situations.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's it was a windy I think you could

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<v Speaker 2>get away with like, oh, that guy's just trying to

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<v Speaker 2>be funny or ironic or whatever. The painter hat is like,

1:34:06.200 --> 1:34:08.800
<v Speaker 2>you can't do anything. You can't, you can't explain it away.

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<v Speaker 2>You're just like I have this stupid hat on.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Ryan Moore had a cup of coffee with

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<v Speaker 3>the painter hat for a while too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, remember what he was wearing. The tie.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, touch.

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<v Speaker 2>He did at the Open Championship. Speaking of the Open Championship,

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<v Speaker 2>can I read you my honorable mention? Mega Corp, smart Uh,

1:34:33.800 --> 1:34:47.120
<v Speaker 2>Andrew Waterman, Big Big Waterman, Ure, Wyndham Clark obviously, and

1:34:47.160 --> 1:34:54.000
<v Speaker 2>then Ricky Ricky's water bottle? How how is it not sponsored?

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<v Speaker 2>That's the biggest question. I don't understand how he.

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<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't be able to have all the stickers on it?

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<v Speaker 5>Then how is it not a Red Bull bottle? Like

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<v Speaker 5>he's a red Bull guy, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he's still a Red Bull guy?

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<v Speaker 2>Is he?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't imagine drinking that much red Bull in a day.

1:35:09.439 --> 1:35:12.400
<v Speaker 3>It's like a thirty eight ounce bottle, my favorite, one.

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<v Speaker 2>Of my favorites.

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<v Speaker 1>Last time you had a red Bull?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's what I was gonna say. Bacon is like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know what red Bull does anymore, Like

1:35:18.400 --> 1:35:20.679
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know what the what the company does.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a wedding. I had a wedding a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 4>It was with all my college friends and we had

1:35:26.720 --> 1:35:28.759
<v Speaker 4>Red Bull Vodkas right before the wedding.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you feel awful?

1:35:30.280 --> 1:35:30.599
<v Speaker 2>It was?

1:35:30.920 --> 1:35:35.960
<v Speaker 4>It was horrible. Yeah, it tasted so bad. I was like,

1:35:36.040 --> 1:35:38.040
<v Speaker 4>I can't believe I used to drink these.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like you know, by the way speak speaking of

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<v Speaker 3>red Bull. And again I don't. I don't. I think

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<v Speaker 3>this is a hundred I think this is one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'll say ninety nine percent just to just to

1:35:47.000 --> 1:35:49.080
<v Speaker 3>cover myself. But I did a podcast on Get a

1:35:49.120 --> 1:35:53.479
<v Speaker 3>Grip with Shad Toutan last week during the pot. During

1:35:53.520 --> 1:35:55.760
<v Speaker 3>the pot, I think he was drinking a red Bull.

1:35:56.800 --> 1:35:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Did you did you bring up his nickname of the

1:35:58.840 --> 1:35:59.880
<v Speaker 1>guy that made it?

1:36:00.800 --> 1:36:02.760
<v Speaker 3>You know what's so funny is I had like four

1:36:02.800 --> 1:36:05.439
<v Speaker 3>people all in your sphere Andy that asked me if

1:36:05.479 --> 1:36:08.439
<v Speaker 3>I asked that question, like on different platforms, would like

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<v Speaker 3>d M E or text me if I asked that question.

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<v Speaker 1>You know it's the gas man.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe we'll make next year. So list all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, anything else this is? This is I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think we roughly covered the top subject matter

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<v Speaker 4>and a lot of other subjects.

1:36:24.280 --> 1:36:26.880
<v Speaker 2>That's all I was expecting. To be honest.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, guys, thank you. Everybody can find you. Shane's

1:36:31.760 --> 1:36:34.000
<v Speaker 4>got got a grip pod. You don't have to you

1:36:34.040 --> 1:36:36.160
<v Speaker 4>don't have to play lots of stuff with Scratch, the

1:36:36.240 --> 1:36:38.840
<v Speaker 4>Caddie Life. What was it called, that's serious called cat

1:36:39.760 --> 1:36:43.360
<v Speaker 4>loop life, Loop Life, Kyle. They can find you on

1:36:43.479 --> 1:36:47.839
<v Speaker 4>First Cut podcast. They can find your newsletter, the Normal

1:36:47.880 --> 1:36:49.240
<v Speaker 4>Sporter they could sign up for.

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<v Speaker 1>You're doing Normal Sport again.

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<v Speaker 4>I assume the book and the ebook and everything with that. Yeah,

1:36:55.800 --> 1:36:57.679
<v Speaker 4>that I thought you're excited about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's kind of like you with the the Year

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<v Speaker 2>in Review. I actually cut it down this year, so

1:37:02.640 --> 1:37:04.479
<v Speaker 2>we're not doing it's not going to be an all

1:37:04.680 --> 1:37:07.040
<v Speaker 2>like an exhaustive list of everything that happened. It's going

1:37:07.120 --> 1:37:09.320
<v Speaker 2>to be like basically my hundred or one hundred and

1:37:09.320 --> 1:37:11.599
<v Speaker 2>fifty thoughts on the year. So I'm about a third

1:37:11.640 --> 1:37:12.200
<v Speaker 2>of the way through.

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<v Speaker 3>It's man, how long is how long is every thought?

1:37:14.840 --> 1:37:16.919
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's just like pages every thought.

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<v Speaker 2>Or no, some of them are like some are like

1:37:19.800 --> 1:37:23.320
<v Speaker 2>one sentence okay, okay, but some are paragraphs. So it's

1:37:23.400 --> 1:37:26.360
<v Speaker 2>just it kind of fits. My Boreth gave me this

1:37:26.400 --> 1:37:28.320
<v Speaker 2>great writing advice one time. He's like, just start writing

1:37:28.400 --> 1:37:31.040
<v Speaker 2>numbers down and fill them in the just start writing

1:37:31.080 --> 1:37:31.599
<v Speaker 2>thoughts down.

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<v Speaker 5>It's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a great way. Like if you just start

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<v Speaker 1>writing paragraphs, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>I think one of the best pieces of writing advice

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<v Speaker 4>I ever got was like, you can just end a

1:37:42.840 --> 1:37:46.000
<v Speaker 4>thought and start a new one. Everything doesn't have to

1:37:46.040 --> 1:37:49.479
<v Speaker 4>perfectly tie together. Yeah, maybe that's why I'm a terrible writer, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Well this just made everything more clear for me personally.

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<v Speaker 3>I love layup. All right, That's that's enough for me.

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta go upstairs. Sure my kids aren't dead. I

1:38:09.280 --> 1:38:11.560
<v Speaker 3>love you guys, Go dolphins.

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<v Speaker 2>Go doctor.

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