1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to Aaron Benky's Cabinet of Curiosities, a production of 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Grim and Mild. Our world is 3 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: full of the unexplainable, and if history is an open book, 4 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: all of these amazing tales are right there on display, 5 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: just waiting for us to explore. Welcome to the Cabinet 6 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: of Curiosities. Funerals are normally somber affairs. Attendees were black. 7 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: Kind words are spoken about the deceased from loved ones 8 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: and cherished friends. People cry and embrace one another during 9 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: one of the most difficult times of their lives. Therefore, 10 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: it would be inappropriate to say, stand up and shout 11 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: a string of swear words among the grieving crowd. But 12 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: that's exactly what happened at President Andrew Jackson's funeral. Before 13 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: he became president, Andrew Jackson was a lawyer from the 14 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: Waxhaw Settlement, right on the border between North and South Carolina. 15 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: He served as a courier with his older brother during 16 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: the Revolutionary War before going on to become a general 17 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: in the War of eighteen twelve. Though he had served 18 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: his country several times during his life, Jackson's reputation as 19 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: a patriot has become tarnished today by a lifetime of 20 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: racism and support for white supremacy. He was a staunch 21 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: defender of slavery and the central player in the upheaval 22 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: of Native Americans from their lands. It can be argued 23 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: that Jackson's genocidal tactics undermined any of the good he 24 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: managed to do as a soldier or as a president, 25 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: even something like paying off the entire national debt, which 26 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 1: he did in eighteen thirty five. But he was also 27 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: notoriously tough, surviving two attempted assassinations and even beating his 28 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: would be assassin within an inch of his life. There's 29 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: a reason his nickname was Old Hickory, and it followed 30 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: him until his death. Jackson passed away at his home 31 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: in June of eighteen forty five, surrounded by family and 32 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: close friends. According to one story, as his children cried 33 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: that day, he looked up and asked them what the 34 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: matter was and if he had alarmed them. He told 35 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: them to be good and that he would see them 36 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: in heaven. His heart gave out moments later, providing no 37 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: one a chance to respond or say goodbye. Jackson was 38 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: laid to rest at his Tennessee home the Hermitage on Sunday, 39 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: June eighth. His funeral was attended by three thousand mourners 40 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: who had come to pay their respects to the man 41 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: they revered despite his many moral failings. Parades were even 42 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: held in his honor. Presbyterian minister Reverend William Menaphee Normant 43 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: presided over the services. At least he was supposed to. 44 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: Another mourner named Paul, had chosen that particular moment to 45 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: unleash a series of vulgarities, offending everyone within earshot. It 46 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: wasn't as though people hadn't heard them before. Jackson himself 47 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: was known to curse up a storm when upset or frustrated. However, 48 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: a funeral was no place for such sentiments, even for 49 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: a man as colorful as Andrew Jackson. After several minutes 50 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: of interruption, Paul was escorted from the service to another room. 51 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: According to Normant, he had grown excited by the number 52 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: of people gathered and couldn't help himself. You see, Paul 53 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: had grown up in the Jackson home, having been adopted 54 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: in eighteen twenty seven, and became like another child to 55 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: Rachel Jackson. Andrew's wife, Rachel died a year later in 56 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: eighteen twenty eight. Paul was then left in the care 57 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: of the rest of the family. After mister Jackson's inauguration 58 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: in eighteen twenty nine, the president never forgot about him, though, 59 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: and often asked how Paul was doing in his letters home. 60 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: Once Jackson returned home after being president, he spent much 61 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: more time with young Paul, who picked up on every 62 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: word that came out of the man's mouth. Eventually, Paul 63 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: took to repeating everything he heard, and oftentimes that included 64 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: swearing like a soldier to anyone and everyone inside the house. 65 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: It's not clear how long Paul lived after that. In 66 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: the wild, they tend to have a lifespan of twenty 67 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: three years. In captivity, however, African gray parrots can live 68 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: as old as sixty. That's right, Paul was the only 69 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,679 Speaker 1: parrot ever forced to leave a president's funeral for hurling 70 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: offensive words at the guests. Now that's what I call 71 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: foul language. It's called the Roxbury Conglomerate. Now, if you 72 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: ask me, that sounds like a nefarious corporation that's about 73 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: to be taken down by a superhero. But the truth 74 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: is that the Roxbury conglomerate is less conglomerates and more rocks. 75 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: In fact, it's the bedrock under the city of Boston. 76 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: It spreads out well beyond the neighborhood of Roxbury, though, 77 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: forming the landmass under a lot of nearby neighborhoods and towns. Apparently, 78 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: it's also sometimes called the Roxbury pudding stone, and while 79 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: that makes me hungry, it gives an even less accurate 80 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: impression of what it really is, unless you're a geologist 81 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: who knows what a pudding stone is. That's not why 82 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: the Roxbury Conglomerate has led to a misunderstanding, though far 83 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: from it. In fact, in the middle of the eighteen hundreds, 84 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: at a time when stone from the bedrock there was 85 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: being used to build walls and foundations throughout the Boston area, 86 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: there was a misconception that led to a hundred years 87 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: of argument and debate. It started, as the paper said 88 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: at the time, a few rods self of Reverend Hall's 89 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: meeting house in Boston. They were blasting in the rock 90 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: and collecting the stone fragments that flew away. It wasn't 91 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: the safest way of clearing land and gathering stone, of course, 92 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: but as the workmen were gathering the stone fragments, they 93 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: saw something strange shining in the rubble. When they moved 94 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: the stones aside and dusted them off, they were awestruck. 95 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: What they had found was a metallic vessel broken into 96 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: two parts. They guessed that, like the rock, it had 97 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: been torn apart in the explosion. When they put it together, 98 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: they saw the two pieces formed a silver bell shape 99 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: about five inches high and six inches wide. As they 100 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: showed it around, people started to make observations about it. 101 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: The metal was clearly valuable, It looked like an alloy 102 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: maybe of zinc and silver, and the craftsmanship shown was incredible, 103 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: not just for the shaping of the object, but because 104 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: it was highly decorated too. The sides were covered in 105 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: silver scroll work, flowers lined in pure silver inlay, and 106 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: wrapped in silver vines twisting around the contours of the bell. 107 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: It was an incredible discovery, so incredible in fact, that 108 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: its story was published in Scientific American that year, and 109 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: they were just as befuddled as the men who discovered it. 110 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: After all, the blasters told the magazine that it had 111 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: been blown out of solid pudding stone fifteen feet below 112 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: the surface. And here's the thing that formation of bedrock there. 113 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: It's been dated to five d seventy million years old. 114 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: If this little silver bell had somehow been caught in 115 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: the flows of sediment that formed the Roxbury conglomerate, well 116 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: then it was probably the oldest artifact ever discovered on Earth. 117 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: The story was picked up in nineteen nineteen by writers 118 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: looking for anomalies, and from there it's been told and 119 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: retold from time to time. It's even been used as 120 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: proof that aliens were around millions of years ago, or 121 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: even that HP Lovecraft's Cathulu mythos was real. And as 122 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: the story reappeared time after time, its reputation rested on 123 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: its strangeness. No one who wrote about the silver bell 124 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: shape in the eighteen fifties seemed to have seen anything 125 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: like it, although people would end up calling it the 126 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: Dorchester pot or Dorchester vessel, but none of the early 127 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: discussions of the silver objects seemed to admit that it 128 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: could have been something that mixed with the fragments of 129 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: stone during the blasting and not before, especially when that 130 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: blasting happened in the middle of an inhabited city. It 131 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: was probably from the very beginning just a little misunderstanding. 132 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: In the end, the biggest mystery is how the fragments 133 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: of a tiny silver bell picked up in the rubble 134 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: of the Roxbury conglomerate entertain speculators and storytellers for more 135 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: than a hundred years. One thing I do know, though 136 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: people ever since have had a blast trying to figure 137 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: it out. I hope you've enjoyed today's guided tour of 138 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: the Cabinet of Curiosities. Subscribe for free on Apple Podcasts, 139 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: or learn more about the show by visiting Curiosities podcast 140 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: dot com. 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