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Speaker 1: Coming up. Final hour show. Dodgers roll the Braves. Chris
Speaker 1: Taylor hits three homers. Braves still up three games to two.
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Speaker 1: the Astros game six tonight. Not a great weekend in
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Speaker 1: could never charge you for this content. The Dodgers beat
Speaker 1: the Braves eleven two last night to stay alive seventeen hits.
Speaker 1: Now they trail three games to two. And if you're
Speaker 1: a fan in Atlanta, you might worry that this is
Speaker 1: a repeated last season when LA came back from a
Speaker 1: three one deficit in the National League Championship Series. And
Speaker 1: it could be, but don't look at last year's results
Speaker 1: as the reason, because we sometimes over inflate past results.
Speaker 1: These are different Dodgers and Braves teams than last year.
Speaker 1: This is a different Braves team than it was a
Speaker 1: couple of months ago after the trade deadline. The most
Speaker 1: famous case of a team defying history is probably the
Speaker 1: four Red Sox. They've been losing to the Yankees for decades,
Speaker 1: but came back from that three zo deficit went on
Speaker 1: to win the World Series. Atlanta is still leading here,
Speaker 1: but the point is they can't let last season bother them.
Speaker 1: It's now a three game series, the best of three,
Speaker 1: and all Atlanta has to do is just win one.
Speaker 1: They got to make sure they put the past in
Speaker 1: the past and try to close out this series at home.
Speaker 1: But I like the Dodgers' chances because it sets up
Speaker 1: for that rotation. Now. I don't know what happens as
Speaker 1: far as you got seventeen hits, you got five home runs,
Speaker 1: and you're going to take that to Atlanta. It's not
Speaker 1: something you put in the overhead bin and when you
Speaker 1: get on the plane you have no idea momentum is
Speaker 1: the next day's starting pitcher. That's really what it comes
Speaker 1: down to. But Chris Taylor, this happens. This happens in
Speaker 1: baseball down through the years. You lock in on shutting
Speaker 1: down one or two guys, and then all of a
Speaker 1: sudden you somehow ease up on somebody else, and Taylor
Speaker 1: made them pay last night, three home runs. AJ Pollock
Speaker 1: had a great game as well, So it's not the
Speaker 1: household names the guys you expect, but you need that.
Speaker 1: Every single year when you look at a World Series winner,
Speaker 1: there's always somebody who came out of nowhere to give
Speaker 1: you a big hit, big moment, big pitching performance. And
Speaker 1: now you have Max Scherzer full rest going into this game.
Speaker 1: I certainly like the Dodgers chances. And then you'll have
Speaker 1: Walker Bueller, and then you'll have Urius coming out of
Speaker 1: the bullpen if you need him. The Dodgers bullpen has
Speaker 1: been really good. But now the pressure to me is
Speaker 1: on Atlanta. Can you beat Max Scherzer in Game six?
Speaker 1: And then you roll the dice when you get to
Speaker 1: a game seven if you don't do that. Mcleven, what's
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Speaker 1: do you got the Braves? Up? Three? Two are the
Speaker 1: Dodgers because I'll bet you the Dodgers win that poll. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're on the Dodgers radio station KLAC, so I would
Speaker 1: expect that we'll say no, Dodgers fans. I think the
Speaker 1: nationally people are buying into this. The Braves are jigs
Speaker 1: against the Dodgers. Well, I don't know if they are.
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at this. You know, when you look
Speaker 1: at those pitchers and I get somebody who's a big
Speaker 1: time pitcher like Max Scherzer, I expect Max Scherzer to
Speaker 1: be to give you a quality start in game six. Now,
Speaker 1: what happens with the Braves lineup? What happens with the
Speaker 1: Dodgers lineup? You know, can you get two runs? Three runs?
Speaker 1: Can you get more than that? You know? Is it
Speaker 1: your starter? Is it you're a middle relief? Is your closer?
Speaker 1: I think that last night the Brave starter Freed was
Speaker 1: maybe tipping his pitches. I think there were certainly some
Speaker 1: whispers that sometimes a pitcher will know, a manager will know,
Speaker 1: or a catcher will know when you're on somebody. Now,
Speaker 1: sometimes you'll get a hit, sometimes you'll really connect. Other
Speaker 1: times you're like, wow, they are on top of his pitches,
Speaker 1: and you know these hitters they're looking for something. And
Speaker 1: it felt like Freed might have been tipping his pitches
Speaker 1: last night. I think that the Braves were also looking
Speaker 1: at some of the body language going on with the
Speaker 1: Dodgers that it felt like they were talking to one another.
Speaker 1: And then it felt like Freed was maybe starting to
Speaker 1: realize this when it was too late. But the Dodgers,
Speaker 1: you know, that's not astros stuff. That's just a pitcher
Speaker 1: tipping his pitches. And if that's the case, it doesn't
Speaker 1: take long for them to realize when he does this,
Speaker 1: this is what he's throwing. When he does this, this
Speaker 1: is what he's throwing, and that sometimes is all the
Speaker 1: advantage that you need. Whether that's true or not, it
Speaker 1: felt like he might have realized this when he was
Speaker 1: on the mound, when he was being taken out. All right,
Speaker 1: what else do you have? Mac lovin? Okay, it's a
Speaker 1: week of giant spreads in the NFL, like college football spreads.
Speaker 1: If I give you these three massive I'll give you
Speaker 1: four touchdown or more underdogs. Which has the best chance
Speaker 1: of winning. The Chicago Bears are twelve point dogs at
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. The Houston Texans are eighteen point dogs, sorry,
Speaker 1: seventeen point five at Arizona. Oh wait, it's only seventeen
Speaker 1: and a half. Yeah, okay. The Detroit Lions are fifteen
Speaker 1: and a half point underdogs in the Jared Goff Revenge Bowl. Okay,
Speaker 1: so or any of those possible Chicago, it's got to
Speaker 1: be the one team out of that. Yeah, I guess
Speaker 1: I would say the Bears. You know, it's Justin Fields
Speaker 1: versus Tom Brady. I don't think there's been a bigger
Speaker 1: age discrepancy of starting quarterbacks game than twenty three years.
Speaker 1: Brady forty four, justin Fields twenty one. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: would probably say the Bears against the Buccaneers. A couple
Speaker 1: other big ones. The Washington football team is seven a
Speaker 1: half point underdogs against at Green Bay. Once again, if
Speaker 1: I looked at this, I would probably circle one or
Speaker 1: two games and go those those could be squirrely, those
Speaker 1: could those could change. The opposite could end up happening there.
Speaker 1: But for some reason, this week feels like that doesn't
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of options for underdogs winning. And
Speaker 1: there's another one. The Jets are touchdown underdogging. It's a
Speaker 1: Patriots like. It's hard to see those teams winning. I know,
Speaker 1: but it happens every week where you go, How is
Speaker 1: this happening? You get a feeling every Friday? I do.
Speaker 1: I'm curious if if I can't wait to see if
Speaker 1: you find one this Yeah, I don't know. This is
Speaker 1: one more line that surprised me. The Bengals are actually
Speaker 1: six point underdogs at Baltimore five and a half. Six point.
Speaker 1: Why did that surprise you? I think pel the Bengals
Speaker 1: are four and two. Does that seem a little big?
Speaker 1: That's a pretty big line. Well, I think we're looking
Speaker 1: at the Ravens. Are they the best team in the AFC?
Speaker 1: I think the Bengals have played well, they're competitive. I
Speaker 1: thought they were going to beat the Packers, but this
Speaker 1: is one of those Baltimore just roughed up the Chargers
Speaker 1: and now the Bengals come to town. They have offense
Speaker 1: and that's a really good defense. The question is can
Speaker 1: you hold Lamar Jackson in check? Yeah? That's probably a
Speaker 1: fair number there. Yeah. Could I see the Bengals winning, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I could, But I expect Baltimore. You know, that defense
Speaker 1: has been solid and even last night, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: watching the Browns game that if you're a running back
Speaker 1: and you think you're gonna get a big contract, you're like,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, who is this running back and where
Speaker 1: did they get him? I mean, you gotta be Derrick Henry.
Speaker 1: That's about it. Alvin Kamara. I mean, Christian McCaffrey got paid,
Speaker 1: but you know that's a bad contract. But the Ernest
Speaker 1: Johnson out of nowhere, who reportedly ran a four eight
Speaker 1: forty at the combine, that's just a little better than
Speaker 1: Rich Eisen. But he was great last night, and out
Speaker 1: of nowhere working on a fishing boat three years, he's
Speaker 1: out there running around. If I'm a running back in college,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh god, I'm never gonna get paid. I
Speaker 1: gotta switch positions. Yeah yeah, great night for that guy.
Speaker 1: Terrible night for the position of running back. You could
Speaker 1: just grab some dude off a fishing boat and throw
Speaker 1: him out there. Yeah yeah. Mclovin. Does that mean Nick
Speaker 1: Chubby isn't as great as we thought he was. That's
Speaker 1: what I was wondering last night. Seems great. Yeah, when
Speaker 1: you have them, you're an elite team. I think when
Speaker 1: you have that running attack, it doesn't matter if you
Speaker 1: have Baker Mayfield or case Keenom. And that's another you know,
Speaker 1: person who's probably going, uh, that didn't help me. I
Speaker 1: mean Case Keenom played okay, he played fine, and I
Speaker 1: expect him to be, you know, that kind of quarterback.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not asking him to win anything. Just
Speaker 1: don't lose anything. You don't have your wide receivers being healthy.
Speaker 1: Landry and Odell Beckham. By the way, I think Odell
Speaker 1: Beckham can't catch with both hands. He's really good with
Speaker 1: one hand. It's when he tries to catch with two
Speaker 1: hands where you go what because his signature is the
Speaker 1: one handed catch. Now, I know he's hurt. Jarvis Landry
Speaker 1: is banged up as well. I mean the Browns as
Speaker 1: a team banged up. But this is once again, you
Speaker 1: have one or two of these games every year for
Speaker 1: these elite teams where you go, man, they barely won
Speaker 1: that game, but you won that game. That's the key,
Speaker 1: and that's all you wanted if you're a Cleveland Browns fan,
Speaker 1: just win that game. Yeah, mclovin, do you have a
Speaker 1: hunch on whether Baker Mayfield will get the big deal?
Speaker 1: I'm going to talk to Brady Quinn about it, because
Speaker 1: you have to look at the free agent landscape here
Speaker 1: because you're not going to get a high draft pick.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to get a high draft
Speaker 1: pick unless they have somebody other, some other team's draft pick.
Speaker 1: Can Baker Mayfield take you to the next level? Can
Speaker 1: you be on par with some of the elite teams?
Speaker 1: But can you start over? Is also the big decision there.
Speaker 1: If you're the Browns, you got everything in place. It's
Speaker 1: been a lot of money on that defense, two running backs,
Speaker 1: you got wide receivers, Hooper can be a quality tight
Speaker 1: they got two good tight ends and Joku and they
Speaker 1: got Hooper, Austin Hooper, right, Austin Hooper. But it's Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 1: Does he make them that much better? And I think
Speaker 1: you're still not quite sure about that. Yeah. See, it's
Speaker 1: kind of like weighing does Baker Mayfield make you that
Speaker 1: much better? Versus do we really want to start over again? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just don't know how many times you can go
Speaker 1: to that. Well, it's a franchise. Yeah, They've had more
Speaker 1: starting quarterbacks than I think anybody in the last thirty years.
Speaker 1: It's almost like, do we need elite or it does
Speaker 1: pretty good? Cover it? But I don't want to pay
Speaker 1: forty five million a year for pretty good or good? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I don't. It's pretty good, slightly worse than good, or
Speaker 1: slightly better, pretty pretty good. It feels like it's worse
Speaker 1: than good. Oh, I don't know. Pretty good means you're
Speaker 1: not committed to good pretty good, pretty good, You don't
Speaker 1: committed to being he's a good player. It's like saying
Speaker 1: it's like saying partially good. Right, okay, right, yeah, I
Speaker 1: have the Browns is only having their own pick, and
Speaker 1: they are at number twenty right now. Now, if you remember,
Speaker 1: they have picked a lot of quarterbacks right around, including
Speaker 1: by twenty two Brandon Weedon at twenty two, that might
Speaker 1: be h Baker's best chance. Brady Quinn. Where Brady Quinn? Yes, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Deshaun Kaiser was wasn't he a second round pick? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Desker went a second round pick? Oh my god. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So maybe they have to stick with Baker. Okay, but
Speaker 1: if you said, hey, maybe we make a run at
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers or Jimmy Garoppolo or I don't know, sounds
Speaker 1: like a better strategy. No, I don't know. I just
Speaker 1: I don't think Baker Mayfield is elite. But I think
Speaker 1: when he embraces his role, then he can be very
Speaker 1: good and the team can be very good. But is
Speaker 1: that enough to beat you know, one of these teams
Speaker 1: when you get to the playoffs. Yeah, Pa, But let's
Speaker 1: say they offered him five years for one hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty million. Is that thirty million a year? They don't
Speaker 1: do that? But he where is he getting that elsewhere?
Speaker 1: If he passes on that offer. I don't know if
Speaker 1: he has the bargaining position where they don't pick up
Speaker 1: his option that some other team's gonna give him a
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty million dollars That may not work
Speaker 1: out for him long term. Marcus Mariota didn't, James Winston
Speaker 1: didn't get that money. This would be my strategy. If
Speaker 1: I'm a GM, I would say, you know what, You're
Speaker 1: not Mahomes, You're not. I'm gonna give you an eighty
Speaker 1: percent offer. Do you want to stay here at that price?
Speaker 1: We can use that salary elsewhere? Do you want to
Speaker 1: do this? That would be my approach. Now, I might
Speaker 1: lose some players, but you look at these teams that
Speaker 1: are top heavy with these salaries, and it's really hard
Speaker 1: to win when that happens. Yeah, all right, So we'll
Speaker 1: settle on poll question. Brady Quintill join us. Coming up
Speaker 1: more on the Dodgers staying alive. The Brave Stoo up
Speaker 1: three games to two. You have Red Sox at the Astros.
Speaker 1: That's game six coming up tonight. Let's see anything else
Speaker 1: that we need to mention on this program polling. I
Speaker 1: think in Dernis Johnson, the running back from last night,
Speaker 1: you know how they do if he starts next weekday
Speaker 1: all day case Kingham Houston. When he show the offense,
Speaker 1: he should say the artist Johnson fishing boat and don't
Speaker 1: give a school m what don't new South Florida didn't
Speaker 1: go to checking the University of South Florida. I always
Speaker 1: think of Earnest. You know that those movies with Ernest.
Speaker 1: Ernest goes to Hollywood, liked Earnest goes to Cleveland. Yeah, us, yeah,
Speaker 1: us yeah. I think he's the all time AAF leading
Speaker 1: Russian oh with ninety six yards, but he ran a
Speaker 1: four to eight forty Yeah, how do you do that?
Speaker 1: They were talking about last night. Something was going on,
Speaker 1: you know, he had outside things going on that day
Speaker 1: oh or something, I don't know, before eight. That's unacceptable
Speaker 1: for a running back, right, yeah, yeah, thank you mclovin.
Speaker 1: I was gonna meagine by her Broncos Silk couldn't tackle him.
Speaker 1: What happened to that team. Hey Todd, you kind of quiet?
Speaker 1: Where's your Broncos? Where's your Bronco? Disappeared to be a
Speaker 1: bit fraudulent. I am more than concerned about saying that
Speaker 1: Denver is going to make the play. Yes, and we
Speaker 1: didn't get the drive or the fumble during the game.
Speaker 1: As far as the video, yeah, there was like a
Speaker 1: fourth quarter mention, but I don't think they showed the video.
Speaker 1: They did not. All right, let me take a break here,
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Speaker 1: leads right into our show. Brady joins us on the program. Brady,
Speaker 1: good morning. What do you take away from last night's
Speaker 1: alms win. I think two things. One, the Browns have
Speaker 1: a roster and a football team that is resilient I
Speaker 1: think can withstand some injuries and still find a way
Speaker 1: of winning football games, especially when you see the way
Speaker 1: Case Keenan played Denis Johnson Johnson at the running back spot.
Speaker 1: But that was something that looking into this year, coming
Speaker 1: into it, I kind of felt like the Browns withstand
Speaker 1: some of those injuries, some of what happens during the
Speaker 1: course of an NFL season, And for the Broncos, I
Speaker 1: think a couple of things offensively stood out. You know,
Speaker 1: they just got to find a way of being able
Speaker 1: to produce more points. I know the Browns have a
Speaker 1: good defense, especially that front, but the offensive line has
Speaker 1: gotten exposed for the Broncos the past couple of weeks now,
Speaker 1: and there's just there's no big plays within that that offense.
Speaker 1: But they've got they've they've got the ability to make
Speaker 1: those plays on the outside. I just I don't know
Speaker 1: if they need to take more chances or what you
Speaker 1: want to attribute it to. Maybe the play of Teddy Bridgewater,
Speaker 1: But there's some disconnect right now on offense for the
Speaker 1: Broncos because that's a better football team than I think
Speaker 1: their record shows right now. And I know everybody's banged up,
Speaker 1: The Browns are banged up. The offensive line, you got
Speaker 1: your running backs, got your wide receivers, you got Baker
Speaker 1: Mayfield there, and we add a seventeenth game. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a war of attrition here, Brady. I just I'm
Speaker 1: amazed at the players. I know, money, you know, kind
Speaker 1: of trumps everything, but it's like, yeah, bringing another game here.
Speaker 1: It's hard enough to get through sixteen. Now you're adding
Speaker 1: one more and we're at week seven and you have
Speaker 1: all of these injuries. Is this just an aberration or
Speaker 1: do you think this is what you know we got
Speaker 1: to get geared up for. No, I think it's what
Speaker 1: we have to get geared up for. And the disappointing
Speaker 1: thing is that the players didn't push back and say,
Speaker 1: we need an expanded roster. You know, we need to
Speaker 1: have an even greater roster, in particular on game day.
Speaker 1: We need to have an extra bye week, like all
Speaker 1: these things that I think are important to taking care
Speaker 1: of players bodies. None of that, None of that got
Speaker 1: accomplished when you signed onto a CBA that was going
Speaker 1: to potentially increase the seventeen games and look, eventually we'll
Speaker 1: get to eighteen games. I mean that's where this is going.
Speaker 1: It's all about money. We know that's the prerogative the
Speaker 1: NFL owners. At some point, if the NFLPA is really
Speaker 1: being honest with themselves, they need to start taking how
Speaker 1: you know, how many games these players can actually take
Speaker 1: seriously and realize that it is a brutal physical sport
Speaker 1: and you have to do something to counteract the toll
Speaker 1: that's taken on these players bodies, whether it's again additional
Speaker 1: buy expanding the rosters so you've got, you know, the
Speaker 1: ability to have more guys on there are more guys
Speaker 1: practicing throughout the course of the week. Two just additional
Speaker 1: bodies to help with that, give guys rest. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's a myriad of ways I think you can circumvent
Speaker 1: some of that, but it doesn't seem like the NFLPA
Speaker 1: understands those leverage points to kind of flex against the
Speaker 1: owners and those negotiations. Baker Mayfield wants to come back,
Speaker 1: but he's got I mean, it's his non throwing shoulder,
Speaker 1: but that's part of your DNA. Is the quarterback like
Speaker 1: you have to get back there? But is that a
Speaker 1: good thing for the Browns? Is that a good thing
Speaker 1: for Baker that he's trying to, you know, come back,
Speaker 1: maybe sooner than he needs to. He is kind of
Speaker 1: I don't want to say in a contract year, but
Speaker 1: I think you'd like to get that next contract, so
Speaker 1: clearly there's some incentive to come back there. I think
Speaker 1: anytime you're a quarterback and you're on the sideline and
Speaker 1: you're watching a guy going there and be able to
Speaker 1: operate the way in case Kendom did last night, I
Speaker 1: don't know how much longer you want that to go on.
Speaker 1: You know, you don't want that thought to creep in
Speaker 1: back off anyone else's mind where you say, well, what
Speaker 1: of this guy puts together a string of three or
Speaker 1: four really good games. I'm not saying case Keenum's going
Speaker 1: to be the guy, but I mean, let's just let's
Speaker 1: just say after the season, there's a chance maybe Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson's available. I mean, we're still hearing trade rumors for
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. I don't know if any of that's going
Speaker 1: to come through or not. Now. If it doesn't, maybe
Speaker 1: after the season he becomes available, depending on how the
Speaker 1: legal situation spears itself out. Aaron Rodgers, I mean, there's
Speaker 1: speculations this might be his last year in Green Bay.
Speaker 1: There's a number of quarterbacks, so I think would look
Speaker 1: at that roster in Cleveland and go, yes, sign me
Speaker 1: up for that. So I think you got to be
Speaker 1: careful if you can come back and play and it's
Speaker 1: not gonna diminish your ability to go in and play effectively. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you probably need to be back in there and do
Speaker 1: you a part of your team and try to make
Speaker 1: that playoff on. But why can't the Browns go now?
Speaker 1: I don't want to give Baker a long term contract,
Speaker 1: you know, and I'd still like to see what happens
Speaker 1: the rest of the year before I do that. But
Speaker 1: even then, I can't give him forty million dollars, Like
Speaker 1: what if I just said five years, one fifty, because
Speaker 1: what much that is guaranteed? Let's make three quarters of
Speaker 1: it guaranteed. How's that? Okay? I'm trying to do the
Speaker 1: quick bath in my head here. It's kind of early
Speaker 1: in the morning out here on the West coast, dand
Speaker 1: so I'm trying to put this all together. No, I
Speaker 1: think I think it all depends on the structure of
Speaker 1: that contract, what it looks like, and then what he
Speaker 1: feels comfortable at this point. Yeah, but what's his marketplace though, Brady,
Speaker 1: If I like, what's what's he gonna do? Hey, we're
Speaker 1: gonna give you this. Who's going to give him top
Speaker 1: end money? Well, I think a quarterback needy team if
Speaker 1: he was able to hit free agency. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: the reality of it. So you know what that contract
Speaker 1: is going to look like. We talked about this before
Speaker 1: his fifth year option next year and then two additional
Speaker 1: years of the franchise tag. That should be the base,
Speaker 1: really the floor of those negotiations of what he would
Speaker 1: sign an extension for at least what the first three
Speaker 1: years would look like. So you know, calculating some of
Speaker 1: those numbers into it, and they offered him anything less
Speaker 1: than that, I'd say no because I'd be willing to
Speaker 1: go through the risk at least. And that's just me.
Speaker 1: Maybe he wouldn't. Maybe he wants the financial security of
Speaker 1: having that love of some of money right now. But
Speaker 1: they've already picked up its fifth year option, and if
Speaker 1: they pick up the subsequent you know, franchise tags for
Speaker 1: years one and two in that each year is guaranteed.
Speaker 1: So it all depends on what he's willing to do.
Speaker 1: How how long he's going to push this and what
Speaker 1: he thinks he's worth in his mind. You and I
Speaker 1: might have an idea of what he thinks he's worth,
Speaker 1: but I can promise you this, every single quarterback in
Speaker 1: the NFL thinks the best and they think they should
Speaker 1: be paid the most. That's just how we're wired. That's
Speaker 1: how we think. It might be crazy to everyone else
Speaker 1: out there, but that's what we think in our minds.
Speaker 1: Case Keenum probably even thinks that. He's probably thinking, like,
Speaker 1: give me another game, let me show you what I'm
Speaker 1: all about. And I don't know if it's a big
Speaker 1: drop off with Case Keenum, right, I mean, he knows
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski from Minnesota. He's played in, you know, a
Speaker 1: couple of big playoff games. It's just the difference is
Speaker 1: star power here. In my opinion, it's star power. I
Speaker 1: think there's some other intangibles too. I think Baker has
Speaker 1: a stronger arm. I think Baker's best football is his
Speaker 1: ceilings higher than probably what Cases is. But it's your point,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know that the floor is really
Speaker 1: that much different from those two. And I think Case
Speaker 1: is very serviceable. I mean, we've seen him be able
Speaker 1: to make a playoff run in the past, so especially
Speaker 1: with a good team surrounded around him, which they've got
Speaker 1: right now in Cleveland. So that's a fair assessment. But
Speaker 1: you know, ultimately it comes down to the Browns have
Speaker 1: to make a decision on do they feel like Baker
Speaker 1: Mayfield is good enough to go to win them a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl? And if they're comfortable with being able to
Speaker 1: check that box and say that's the case, then the contracts,
Speaker 1: because the reality is of these contracts, you know you're
Speaker 1: gonna end up redoing it, especially it's a five year
Speaker 1: deal three years into it. Probably if things are going
Speaker 1: how you want them to go, right, if you have
Speaker 1: the same head coach, the same general manager, and you're
Speaker 1: winning football games, you're already going to have to renegotiate
Speaker 1: that contract, either to create cap space for another player
Speaker 1: or because you don't want him to get any closer
Speaker 1: to free agency. And the more economical way of doing
Speaker 1: that is to be able to negotiate or renegotiate that
Speaker 1: extension earlier in that contract, whether as opposed to waiting
Speaker 1: until he gets closer to free agency. So that's that's all.
Speaker 1: If everything goes well. If it doesn't, go, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: you got a new head coach du general manager. You know,
Speaker 1: he might be playing out that contract or maybe being
Speaker 1: traded on that contract. There's all this what is he's
Speaker 1: Brady Quinn Fox Sports College and NFL studio and game analyst.
Speaker 1: Is Odell Beckham a top ten wide receiver? I would
Speaker 1: say talent wise, yes, I don't think the production has
Speaker 1: acquitted to that loved late and a lot of that,
Speaker 1: you know, has to do injuries and the system that
Speaker 1: he's in. I mean, is this the best system for
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham to be in? Probably not. I mean they're
Speaker 1: they're really to be honest, to run first team and
Speaker 1: they base everything off of that. So I still think
Speaker 1: he's a top ten talent. I really do. I think
Speaker 1: the narrative that if he's not out there, you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's easier on a Baker Mayfield or their offense
Speaker 1: is better. I'm like, where's the logic there. I mean,
Speaker 1: do you think any defense is going up against the
Speaker 1: Browns saying if we hope, we hope Odell Beckham's you know,
Speaker 1: in the game, because that makes them a less potent offense.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's obviously a mismatch for a lot
Speaker 1: of defensive backs. He's obviously got the big playability in
Speaker 1: the building to hurt you down the field. So no
Speaker 1: defense is going to walk into a game with Odell
Speaker 1: Beckham in and being like, Oh, thank god he's on
Speaker 1: the field, right, we don't have to worry about that guy, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's clearly, he's clearly one of the
Speaker 1: more talented wide receivers. They have not been able to
Speaker 1: find that chemistry and they have not been able to
Speaker 1: kind of get him rolling because I think he is
Speaker 1: one of those players where once you get him rolling,
Speaker 1: he becomes a you know, unstoppable force if you will.
Speaker 1: I don't think you can catch with two hands, Like
Speaker 1: it's crazy. There's I don't know why. I swear to you.
Speaker 1: Some of the best best hands and the best guys
Speaker 1: I played with, they can always make the ridiculous catch
Speaker 1: or one handed catch, but the drops are always the
Speaker 1: ones that are like the easiest ones. Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: just think they're so confident their ability to make that
Speaker 1: catch that they start to take the eye off the ball.
Speaker 1: They start to move a little bit of field. You know.
Speaker 1: It's it's like as a quarterback, you know, sometimes the
Speaker 1: hardest ones to hit are the ones wide open. You know,
Speaker 1: it's easier when you have a tight window because you
Speaker 1: understand exactly where you need to pinpoint that ball. When
Speaker 1: you got a guy who's running with ten yards of separation,
Speaker 1: you just want to make sure you're not the guy
Speaker 1: missing that throw. You gotta make sure you give it
Speaker 1: a little bit of a room for air. USC Notre
Speaker 1: Dame this weekend. Your favorite USC Notre Dame memory memory
Speaker 1: is what I don't have many. I mean, yeah, you
Speaker 1: know back then, back then they were rolling. You know,
Speaker 1: it's been seventeen hundred and eighty or seventeen hundred and
Speaker 1: ninety days now, I think since USC we Notre Dame. UM,
Speaker 1: you know, Notre Dames won the last three or I
Speaker 1: think six to the last eight, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: so it's been a different, different deal. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: how rivalries are. You know, a lot of times you
Speaker 1: get into ebbs and flows of rivalries between two teams.
Speaker 1: And that was USC's hey day. UM, and then after
Speaker 1: a peat left the obviously I think the S and
Speaker 1: USC standard for sanctions at that point and they haven't
Speaker 1: really been able to recover since. UM. But uh No,
Speaker 1: I mean it was probably the O five game. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, we call it a play, um it was.
Speaker 1: It was a quarterback draw. And Charlie told me early
Speaker 1: in that week, He's like, you're we're gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 1: call this play and you're gonna run in for a
Speaker 1: touchdown and we're gonna win the game. And Charlie Weiss
Speaker 1: a head coach at the time, and you know, he
Speaker 1: was in the Green Jerseys. Everything building up to that
Speaker 1: game made it really special. Our PEP rally, which traditionalist
Speaker 1: in the Joyce Center back then, they held in the
Speaker 1: stadium because there's so many people who are in town
Speaker 1: for it. I think we had fIF thousand or something
Speaker 1: like that for a pep rally. You know, I couldn't
Speaker 1: exist during a cold COVID deal. But it was, you know,
Speaker 1: that play, I mean, reaching across the goal line, putting
Speaker 1: us you know ahead at that moment. It was, I
Speaker 1: mean just everything coming to fruition. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: looking at the scoreboard, going we left them too much time.
Speaker 1: You know, That's honestly how I felt my heart is
Speaker 1: knowing how good Matt and Reggie were in that entire offense,
Speaker 1: Like I knew we left too much time on the
Speaker 1: on the on the board. And then when you realize
Speaker 1: that you had the bush push, did you have a
Speaker 1: good angle when you're watching that, Yeah, I saw it.
Speaker 1: I mean I knew it was illegal, you know, but
Speaker 1: what happens between the lines during the game. No one's
Speaker 1: going to come back and say they saw anything different. Um,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's illegal play now, But back then
Speaker 1: it was illegal and the officiating was honestly awful down
Speaker 1: the stretch. I mean the spot for that play in particular,
Speaker 1: it was a terrible spot, but you know, it is
Speaker 1: what it is. I would have hoped my running back
Speaker 1: would have done the same thing if it was me
Speaker 1: going in for a quarterback sneak, and that's what you
Speaker 1: do to try to win the game. I honestly blame
Speaker 1: I blamed our PA speaker in the stadium because everyone
Speaker 1: rushed the field, and I'm thinking, like, look, if the
Speaker 1: officials fill too much pressure, maybe they just call its
Speaker 1: came over that everyone runs off the field and everyone's
Speaker 1: still celebrating. But they made sure everyone cleared the field
Speaker 1: and they got the chance to kind of collect themselves
Speaker 1: and have that one final play. So it was. It
Speaker 1: was an incredible atmosphere. It was obviously a pretty hard
Speaker 1: loss to take, but it was a very fun journey.
Speaker 1: That entire week was very memorable. Okay, but you're going
Speaker 1: to see Liner and Reggie Bush on Saturday. How long
Speaker 1: does it take for that conversation to come up? Well,
Speaker 1: here's we have to understand. At Fox, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of USC alum who then transition over to work for Fox.
Speaker 1: So I'm constantly reminded of it. It's not like we've
Speaker 1: got a bunch of Notre Dame alums who are like
Speaker 1: trying to figure out a way of not putting it
Speaker 1: in there. Like they actually referenced it last week. I
Speaker 1: mean we were even playing last week. Both teams were
Speaker 1: all eyes, but they still they've still referenced it. So
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't get away from it. I just
Speaker 1: keep trying to remind them, like, you know again, you
Speaker 1: know you guys, have you guys put aunt Becky in
Speaker 1: a jail cell or whatever? Was some of the stuff
Speaker 1: satkeeper body of all the dirt that's going on right now.
Speaker 1: I was like many Southern coucho focus on that not
Speaker 1: so much. Replaying a highlight from fifteen years ago. You
Speaker 1: did a full house reference for these guys. I love
Speaker 1: da have by. I'm just saying it seems like they
Speaker 1: got a lot of people canned to find their way.
Speaker 1: You know. My son and one of my daughters went
Speaker 1: to USC and how they went there. I have no
Speaker 1: idea on their own marriage, you know. But the funny
Speaker 1: thing is is my daughter called me when this whole
Speaker 1: thing broke and she said, she said, dead swear to
Speaker 1: me that you did not pay for me to get
Speaker 1: in USC. And I go, what are you talking about.
Speaker 1: I said, I'm paying tuition. She goes, but you didn't.
Speaker 1: You didn't bribe anybody, did you down? Go No. No.
Speaker 1: And then I say to my son, I said, I
Speaker 1: didn't hear from you, goes, No. I knew you didn't
Speaker 1: have to bryn for me to get into USC. That's
Speaker 1: that's weird because I've been on their campus. I remember
Speaker 1: seeing this Patrick building. Yeah, I was wondering. I was like,
Speaker 1: I donated that. It's a beautiful building, by the way, Yes, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was just a donation. It was a gift, Brady, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and just a gift. Good luck this weekend, you know,
Speaker 1: fight the good fight, Okay, I will, yeah, fight on,
Speaker 1: don't fight on, fight the good fight. We're gonna watch
Speaker 1: the game again and then for some reason people seem
Speaker 1: to think like it's gonna end differently. I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: end the same way every time. Thank you, Brady, thank you.
Speaker 1: That's Brady Quinn Fox Sports and uh the co host
Speaker 1: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. That's the show
Speaker 1: that precedes Aren't on Fox Sports Radio with a former
Speaker 1: NFL player, Lebar Arrington and Jonas Knox and that's Somebody Through. Friday,
Speaker 1: six am, nine am Eastern, we went to USC Notre Dame.
Speaker 1: Was case Keenum the quarterback? Who was the quarterback for
Speaker 1: USC that night? Oh no, Matt Barkley, No, but Kaby
Speaker 1: Case He was oh cute. What am I thinking? Um?
Speaker 1: Who was the quarterback at USC the night? Was that?
Speaker 1: Four years ago? Five years? Um? I'm trying to think,
Speaker 1: Oh god, damn it. Mc love and you got this.
Speaker 1: I have a list of quarterbacks at USC. Uh Cody Kessler.
Speaker 1: Cody Kessler. Yeah, I was gonna say it's another journeyman
Speaker 1: NFL quarterback to Kessler. Yeah sounds similar. But that was
Speaker 1: that atmosphere was great. Yeah. So on the play where
Speaker 1: Reggie Bush pushed Matt Line at the end zone. The
Speaker 1: rule is it's article three of no player on his
Speaker 1: team shall grasp, push, lift, or charge the running back
Speaker 1: to a system to the four progress. In the NFL,
Speaker 1: you could push a running back or quarterback, you can't
Speaker 1: pull him. It's actually written so like you samtimes you
Speaker 1: see the lineman pushing a running back, Yeah, that's legal.
Speaker 1: Pulling is not in the NFL. Play the day is
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Speaker 1: play of the day. Play this is the playoff the day.
Speaker 1: Check this out two. Taylor with a five ball the
Speaker 1: deep left center field. Chris Taylor has hit his third
Speaker 1: home run up at night and becomes the eleventh different
Speaker 1: player in baseball history with three home runs in a
Speaker 1: postseason game. That's courtesy of AM five to seventy LA
Speaker 1: Sports Dodgers Radio Network. Taylor joins Kek Hernandez game five
Speaker 1: of the two thousand and seventeen Nationally Championship Series, is
Speaker 1: the only Dodgers with three home run a three home
Speaker 1: run game in postseason history for that franchise. You know,
Speaker 1: three is a big deal, certainly in the postseason. But
Speaker 1: it's happened, you know, a few times. Most famously, Reggie
Speaker 1: Accent hit three against the Dodgers. Babe Ruth did it
Speaker 1: a couple of times. I think Albert Poolholes had three
Speaker 1: home runs in a game. Anybody else on that list.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think the number of players who have
Speaker 1: had at least three home runs in a playoff game.
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's had four. No, I can find nobody.
Speaker 1: Enrique Hernandez with the Dodgers in two thousand and seventeen,
Speaker 1: Jose al Twove two thousand and seventeen with the Astros,
Speaker 1: Pablo Sandoval, that was World Series Game one, Adam Kennedy
Speaker 1: with the Angels in two thousand and two. You mentioned
Speaker 1: pool holes. That was Game three, ses George Brett against
Speaker 1: the Yankees. Reggie did it. Trying to think if I've
Speaker 1: left somebody out. Sometimes it's not the guy that you
Speaker 1: think would be hitting three home runs in a game,
Speaker 1: like we saw last night with Chris Taylor, Pablo Sandoval,
Speaker 1: al Twove, I think has hit three in a game before.
Speaker 1: Bob Robertson played for the Pirates back in the early
Speaker 1: seventies of first baseman. I don't know if we've left
Speaker 1: anybody else out, But Babe did it twice or he
Speaker 1: hit three home runs? I think he did. It might
Speaker 1: have been in the same series. No, no, it was
Speaker 1: Babe did it in nineteen twenty six against the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: Nineteen twenty eight against the Cardinal He had a lot
Speaker 1: fewer chances. They didn't have wildcard, they didn't have divisions. No. Oh,
Speaker 1: and by the way, the Dodgers seventeen hits, that's the
Speaker 1: most for a franchise in a postseason game five home
Speaker 1: runs tied the franchise mark set in last year's natur
Speaker 1: League Championship Series three, Game three against the Braves. You know,
Speaker 1: here's another thing. You had seven pitchers for the Dodgers,
Speaker 1: no walks. That bullpen has been a strength. You got
Speaker 1: Scherzer coming up Game six, and then Walker Bueller waiting
Speaker 1: for Game seven. It sounds strange to say advantage Dodgers,
Speaker 1: but I feel that just because of the starting pitching
Speaker 1: and having been there before, and it's so important you
Speaker 1: can be great during the regular season. All of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you get those moments, and all of a sudden, it's
Speaker 1: like you just don't throw the way you normally throw.
Speaker 1: You get squeezed a little bit. Yeah, Paul, and the
Speaker 1: other side of it. If you're a Dodgers fan, can
Speaker 1: we just play another game right after this? We got
Speaker 1: seventeen hits, we haven't walked anybody. Let's play back to back.
Speaker 1: Let's roll. Yeah, let's start it like one in the morning.
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Speaker 1: La joining us. Good morning, Jess, Hey, DP, thanks for
Speaker 1: taking my call at Happy Meet and Positivity Friday. Hey,
Speaker 1: one of the one of the coolest parts about my
Speaker 1: game experience thoughts to night was I chose to listen
Speaker 1: to it on radio instead of watching it, and it
Speaker 1: was like that time capsule moment that you hadn't been
Speaker 1: schooling and bottom cost just talk about when you guys
Speaker 1: were younger and you had to listen to it and
Speaker 1: imagine the game through what everyone's calling it in Steiner
Speaker 1: and company did a great job as usual. But what
Speaker 1: I'm really called about is because I'm just excited for sports.
Speaker 1: Like set mentioned it yesterday, it's the best time of
Speaker 1: the year. Listen to this lineup I got this weekend, DP.
Speaker 1: I know it's my fine fanhood, but listen to it tonight.
Speaker 1: I got the King's looking to go too and over
Speaker 1: the first time and god knows how long. Tomorrow we
Speaker 1: got the college game day in Westwood for US or
Speaker 1: for Oregon at Ula, then at Dodgers. I've rested Dodgers
Speaker 1: going to games, trying to go to Game seven with
Speaker 1: Max Scherzer. As you mentioned Sunday, we got all the
Speaker 1: NFL action football team at Lambeau Classico. If you're in
Speaker 1: real football, Warriors at Kings and hopefully at Game seven,
Speaker 1: and if all these things happen, if you sail in
Speaker 1: the package, when the Dodgers platt the series somehow and
Speaker 1: the Kings go through and out, no bets, I'm doing
Speaker 1: a celebratory shower of the shame for the show. You guys,
Speaker 1: you need that content. You guys shoot the stots. You guys,
Speaker 1: shoot the content because it's all about the content, right Chen, Yes,
Speaker 1: it is. Have a great weekend. Enjoy the fireworks. Cheers, guys,
Speaker 1: thank you all right, Jess. Should be fun. Great time
Speaker 1: of the year. Steph Curry scored forty five, including eight
Speaker 1: three pointers. Warriors knocked off the Clippers, so they've beaten
Speaker 1: the Lakers, now beaten the Clippers. The Ben Simmons situation,
Speaker 1: He's supposed to be meeting with management this morning. Not
Speaker 1: sure if he's going to be brought back after a
Speaker 1: one game suspension and he's got a mysterious back injury
Speaker 1: or tightness there in his bank and right, yeah, even
Speaker 1: though he was medically cleared to practice with the seventy
Speaker 1: six ers, he's got a tight there's nothing. It's like
Speaker 1: when you have a stomach. You know it's an upset stomach.
Speaker 1: How do you disprove that? Hey, uh, I feel accel
Speaker 1: seward there. I'll tighten up a little bit there. I
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm gonna be able to go yes time. Well,
Speaker 1: there'd be special accommodations like a nice recliner for this meeting.
Speaker 1: Is it to sit down meeting? So we don't want
Speaker 1: to twinge his back any further. Oh, Darryl Morey the
Speaker 1: seventy six ers GM, he spoke about Ben's situation yesterday.
Speaker 1: This could be four years. Like the conditions that I'm
Speaker 1: pointing out to you don't change. And last, Ben Simmons
Speaker 1: is traded for a difference Baker. We're in the prime
Speaker 1: of Jeo's career. We have to get back either Ben
Speaker 1: Simmons playing well for us, who helps us win the championship,
Speaker 1: or we have to give back a difference Baker for
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons. Or this could be four years from now.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, that's courtesy of ninety seven point five, the
Speaker 1: fanatic in Philly. Now, he had to do the interview
Speaker 1: with him, contractually obligated. That's the Sixers radio station. It's
Speaker 1: one thing to have to do the interview. Could you
Speaker 1: don't have to talk? But I thought that he was
Speaker 1: pretty forthcoming, basically saying, hey Ben, we want you to
Speaker 1: come back. This is the prime of Joe lmb career
Speaker 1: and we have our best chance of winning. Do I
Speaker 1: think this is going to last four years? No? Do
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna last four months? No? Do they
Speaker 1: lessen their trade demands? Maybe a little bit, But you
Speaker 1: want somebody who doesn't want to be there. How's the fans?
Speaker 1: How are these fans going to react to this? We've
Speaker 1: already heard his teammates react to this. We'll have more
Speaker 1: on this coming up. One hour in the books, two
Speaker 1: more to go.