1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha for Stuff I've Never 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: told you production of My Heart Radio, and welcome back 3 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: to the return of our Last of Us special. This 4 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: is a thing we do where we react to the 5 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: Last of Us TV show, currently in season two. It's 6 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,959 Speaker 1: two years later. Here we are again not a sponsor, 7 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: but they should really get on it. It's ridiculous. 8 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: You know they have their own podcast, right, I know they. 9 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 1: Have their own podcast, but this is still good. 10 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 2: We're doing it too, I'm just saying. 11 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: But also, so these are coming out on Saturdays the 12 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: week about a week after the original episode that we're 13 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: talking about airs. There will be spoilers, but only for 14 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: that episode and the previous season and also the video game, 15 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: but not plot specific spoilers from the video game. We 16 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: have a lot of We're trying to protect a lot 17 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: of people from being spoiled, which just a quick warning 18 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: from me, if you don't want to be spoiled, do 19 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: not go well, actually, I don't even care. If you 20 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,559 Speaker 1: want to be spoiled, don't go anywhere near the Last 21 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: of Us to read it. It's a very toxic place. 22 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: Oh really, just from the old stuff or yeah, two, okay, okay, well, 23 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 2: so we talked about the old stuff before the game stuff, and. 24 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: We will talk about that. We will talk about that 25 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: as we get to the where that is really relevant. 26 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: But I just know I have a friend who after 27 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: who'd never played the game, and he would after the 28 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: episode had aired, he'd go and Reddit, and I was like, 29 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: don't do not do that for the second season. Just 30 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: don't do it. You're gonna be disappointed. It's not good. Yeah, 31 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: but we've been talking about it. I've been so excited. 32 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: A Samantha and I are getting to hang out while 33 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: we're doing it and having food and drinks and it's 34 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 1: so fun. So thank you as always Samantha for letting 35 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: me do that and letting me geek out about all 36 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: of this. 37 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 2: Next time, I'm going to keep account of how many 38 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: times you say oh no, because I'm pretty sure we 39 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 2: had least like double digits on this first round. 40 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: It's yeah, because there's a lot there's a lot of 41 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: moving pieces in this. If you don't know, this is 42 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 1: based on the twenty twenty game. The last of most 43 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: part two. This is half of a season, is what 44 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: I'll say, and it actually might be one third of 45 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: a season of that. It is much The game is 46 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: much longer. It's double the length of the first game. 47 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: It is much more complicated. They've already been greenlit for 48 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: season three. I think they're going to do a season four. 49 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: Personally it's going to be much shorter, but I think 50 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: they're going to do a season for but just to 51 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: say it is much longer, and it's kind of a 52 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: half season. Also, you know, I was doing my rewatches 53 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: to prepare for this, and I accidentally watched one of 54 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: the ones that feature ASL, which. 55 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: I need to watch that version, okay, yes. 56 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: And it was you know, I unfortunately don't under UNDERSTANDSL 57 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: but it looked really cool. So listeners, if anyone was like, 58 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: oh this was a good, good or bad, let us know. 59 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: But that was neat all. Right, So, the way these 60 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: usually work is Samantha gives a recap of the episode 61 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: and then I just talk about all of these things 62 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: that I have have to talk about. But since that 63 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: we were talking about the first episode of the season, 64 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: I was going to give a really brief recap of 65 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: last season wherein we meet Joel and his daughter Sarah. 66 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: There is an outbreak, a fungus outbreak of corgeous steps 67 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: that turns people into effected. It spreads really quickly. The 68 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: army steps in, there's bombings, and Sarah is killed, and 69 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: Joel becomes very angry and shut off. We jump ahead 70 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: several years and he's a smuggler and he's tasked with 71 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: smuggling this young girl, Ellie, who it turns out she 72 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: is immune to the infection, and they travel across the 73 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: United States to find the Fireflies who are working on 74 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: a cure, and she is the key to that cure 75 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: because she's immune. They lose a lot of people along 76 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: the way, and eventually Joel warms up to Ellie and 77 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: sees her as a daughter like figure in his life. 78 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: But then it turns out an order to make a vaccine, 79 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: the Fireflies are going to have to Ellie will die 80 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: in the surgery, and so Joel kills a lot of people, 81 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: murders a lot of people, and takes Ellie, who is 82 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: sedated and unconscious, and when she wakes up, tells her 83 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: there is no cure they've been trying. There's a bunch 84 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: of other immune people can't do it. We're going to 85 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: go back to Jackson, Wyoming, which is where his brother lives. 86 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: His brother used to be a firefly, and she asks him, like, 87 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: I need you to swear to me. Is this true? 88 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: Is everything you said about the Fireflies show? And he said, 89 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: I swear, And that's where it ended. And that's right 90 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: where it picks back up. 91 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 2: Yes, as an FYI, again, the show's different from the games, 92 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 2: a little bit of variation, and we love that. Any 93 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: christ a lot and screams a lot, I do not. 94 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 2: And therefore, because I have not played the game as 95 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 2: much as Annie, I give the recaps so I can 96 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,559 Speaker 2: stick with the show and hopefully not just spoilers. Annie 97 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 2: would be good about this, but we don't know. She 98 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 2: gets too excited about future thoughts. Yes, so we are 99 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 2: back with season one, and we start with an opening 100 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 2: scene of gravesite or in a group of people sitting 101 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 2: there at this grave site, and we discover and meet 102 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 2: Abby and her crew. Abby is a very important character. 103 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 2: She's very upset, she's very mad. She wants revenge. She 104 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: wants them to help her with their revenge, her being 105 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 2: her crew they're fireflies, and they all say, yes, we will, 106 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 2: but we first we have to find another crew of 107 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 2: fireflies or something or anyone mention enough Isaac at this point, okay, 108 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 2: where I go? And then after that, yes, they were 109 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 2: bound together to make sure that they find Joel or Joe. 110 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: They don't know with a girl that may or may 111 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: not be immune. That's a rumor, they say, and they 112 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 2: agree that thees first are going to go do this thing, 113 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 2: and then they're going to go find Joel or Joe. 114 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 2: And of course, in that moment, she says slowly and 115 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 2: they're like, what he's like, he has to die slowly, 116 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 2: So anger pulsating anger, we are introduced to Abby. Moving along, 117 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 2: we come back to five years later. We are now 118 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: in Jacksonville and we see people trying to work on 119 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 2: things on pipes because you know, things are happening. They 120 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 2: need to fix things. New people are trying to come 121 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 2: in a lot of conversation and we find out yes 122 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 2: they are taking a lot of refugees, but they don't 123 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 2: have a lot of space. We have the pragmatists, Joel 124 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 2: being like, you need to stop letting everybody come in. 125 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 2: We can't provide for everyone. He's also working with a 126 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: transmitter at the same time that he's supposed to be 127 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 2: the foreman. Then we are soon introduced to a new 128 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 2: Kido Dina Dina walks in and obviously they have good rapport, 129 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 2: and Dina asks, what did you do? Why are you saying? 130 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 2: Why Ellie so bad? Essentially and what did you do? 131 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: And they kind of have a small conversation about like, oh, 132 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 2: you know, she's a teenager or whatever, whatnot. 133 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 3: And then here he. 134 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 2: Kind of lets his slip that he's working on his 135 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 2: life with a therapist. Hello, a therapist. We move on 136 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 2: and we see Ellie. Oh, she has grown up. She 137 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 2: is now nineteen and she is sparring with a very 138 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 2: big boy, big boy. At this point, we also meet Jesse, 139 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: very excited played by young Mazino. If you don't know, 140 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 2: he's a cool actor coming in as well, and we 141 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 2: had this exchange. Obviously there's some hostilities still because Ellie 142 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 2: does not like being checked by Joel, being protected by Joel. 143 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 2: Things are being said, all those things. We move on 144 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 2: to finding Joel having a conversation with Maria, who is 145 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 2: again talking about the issue about too many people coming in, 146 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 2: trying to work on everything. She needs him to get 147 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 2: things done faster, all of these things, so back and forth, 148 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 2: and then reminding him he was a refugee one time. 149 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 2: Do we also didn't get to meet his nephew, who 150 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 2: comes in all excited talking about shooting zombies. Wonderful, wonderful, 151 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 2: and then but we also figured out that Ellie and 152 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: Tommy have been hanging and he's been shot, helping her 153 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 2: to learn to shoot, and they've been sniping some zombies 154 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 2: out there. A little bit of conversation again, we find 155 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 2: out that Joel is overstepping trying to protect her, telling 156 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 2: her him to keep her at gay duty, but she's 157 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 2: not having that. She wants to go on patrol. And 158 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 2: so of course, after being very obnoxious and spoiled and stubborn, 159 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 2: she's screaming I'm immune, trying to get her way, and 160 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 2: she does. She gets to go patrol. Moving on, we 161 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 2: see Joel going into a therapy session and we meet 162 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 2: a new character, Gil. She is the town therapist and 163 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 2: he brings in bad weed as payment, and she's like, 164 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 2: my husband was better at this, he grew it, he 165 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: knew how to cultivate it, he was good at it. 166 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 2: Whatever went on. So we know that she was married 167 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: to a man named Jean who is significant to the game, 168 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 2: but we don't know much about him. And now we're 169 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 2: going to Dot dot Dot In this therapy section, we 170 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 2: find out that he is trying to fix his problems 171 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 2: with Ellie, but he's not being honest about what's going down, 172 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 2: and Gil being a good therapist, she's not. She's like, yeah, 173 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 2: you're bullsh me. And she reveals that Joel had killed 174 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 2: her husband. He shot and killed him, and then we 175 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 2: don't exactly know why. There's a lot of assumptions that happening, 176 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 2: and she says, I do resent you, I do hate you, 177 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 2: but I'm working on that and I know you had 178 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 2: to do what you had to do, but I have 179 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 2: to be honest all the while. We find out he's 180 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 2: pretty drunk. Who isn't at this point, and so a 181 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 2: lot of truth come out. She's like, now you're turn 182 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 2: tell your truth and he never says anything except for 183 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 2: I saved her, so that's what we know. Moving on, 184 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 2: we have Ellie and Dina having these flirty chats talking 185 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 2: teasing each other about their exes. Essentially, so Dina used 186 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 2: to state Jesse, Ellie used to date Cat. They're going 187 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 2: on patrol. Cat is the leader at this point, and 188 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:09,239 Speaker 2: of course they Ellie and Diana are a little rebellious 189 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 2: and have to do their own thing, go on their 190 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 2: own thing to find the zombies or the clickers and 191 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 2: all the infected, and then they go kind of get 192 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 2: into trouble after having an exciting scene of watching Ellie 193 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 2: hack away at a clicker. At another point she falls 194 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 2: through the floor ends up in the other room. It 195 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 2: wasn't the basement. It looked like a store, like the 196 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: downstairs are part of a store. And we find these 197 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 2: new types of zombies are silent and very smart. I 198 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: think one of us said it was a cat. It 199 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 2: wasn't on the shoot, but one of us like, we're like, 200 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 2: is that a cat? Having But they were smart and 201 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 2: Ellie got bit again. But that's okay because Elli ended 202 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 2: up shooting it and now has to hide this new 203 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 2: scar because no one knows she is immune, slash, infected, 204 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 2: slash all the things. So all that has happens and 205 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 2: they get back. Of course they had to sit. They're 206 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 2: sitting in front of a council. So it was an 207 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 2: interesting scene and talking about this new discovery of this 208 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 2: new type of infected moving on. All this time, we're 209 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 2: talking about a dance that's happening. There's something happening, coming together, 210 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 2: having a good old time and celebrating everybody's telling her 211 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,479 Speaker 2: to come, but we also see her in her garage. 212 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 2: She now lives in the garage behind Joel's house because 213 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 2: she doesn't want to live with Joel. Interaction between them 214 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 2: not so great. The writing that she has in her 215 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 2: general inclues, don't this up. I'm a sitting about Dina, 216 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 2: because Dina makes a really bad pun yeah baar bacue, 217 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 2: and she writes that down. You know, we have that 218 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 2: memory in the notebook and all the good stuff, so 219 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 2: obviously they're made for each other. Here we go on 220 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 2: to the dance scene, and in this dance scene, we 221 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 2: see Ellie and Jesse just chilling the back watching people, 222 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 2: and at this point Dina, pulled to the dance floor, 223 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 2: tells her to come to dance with her. They have 224 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 2: this intimate moment about how everybody's looking at them, and 225 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 2: then they're being jealous of Ellie, and then Dina, who's 226 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 2: kind of drunk, ends up kissing and they end up 227 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 2: making out in the middle of the floor. Then enters Seth, 228 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 2: the bigot, who comes in says some inappropriate things and 229 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 2: then gets tackled by Joel, which Ellie does not appreciate. 230 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 2: Putt puts a downer on the whole event. Don't on 231 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 2: the whole event, and that's kind of how it goes 232 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 2: into that. And then we look away. We see some 233 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 2: people come in through and uh oh, it's Abby and 234 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 2: crew en scene. 235 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: Yes, they are approaching. We also see that there's fungus, yes, 236 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: in the pipes. 237 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 2: There's an implication that the fungus has made it into 238 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: this this protected village. 239 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: Yes, because the sparkler somebody drops a sparkler in front 240 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,479 Speaker 1: of it, then of the broken pipe, and they're like, wooo. 241 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 3: I do need to read this. 242 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 2: So I was kind of doing a little bit readthrough 243 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 2: about like recaps and such, and then you know, it 244 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 2: talks about who Gail is. And this comment says from 245 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 2: entertainmentw dot com. I enjoyed season one and was looking 246 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 2: forward to season two. So far, I am disappointed. I 247 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 2: can see why they jumped ahead five years, but Ellie 248 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 2: and Joel are at odds and so far it's not explained. 249 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 2: Joel's therapist said it's normal for this to happened. This 250 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 2: to happen due to Ellie being nineteen and trying to 251 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 2: discover her which seems she's getting a bit of a 252 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 2: late start. I do hope Episode two has Joel and 253 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: Ellie ironing out their problems. I know Ellie doesn't believe 254 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 2: him when he took her away from the hospital, but 255 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 2: he did save her life and she is old enough 256 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 2: to appreciate that. I have my finger scrawled that it 257 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 2: gets better. I really like the actor and actress playing 258 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 2: Joel and Ellie the most innocent of comments. I needed 259 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 2: that to be read. 260 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: I did tell Samantha I was getting a little bit 261 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: more of that shot in Furrido. When I was reading, 262 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, you don't know what's coming with friends. 263 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 2: I just really love that they're already annoyed, like, why 264 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 2: are they not talking to each other? This seems silly. 265 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: It seems silly, to be honest, the first time you 266 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: played the game, it's very jarring. You're like, what, yeah, 267 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: what has happened to you? And it's purposeful. It's it's 268 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: supposed to make you feel what have I missed over 269 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: these five years? And we are going to talk about 270 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: that in the context of this episode, because again we 271 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: are going to do our damnedest to avoid spoilers. But 272 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: that was an excellent recap, Samantha. Thank you. Okay, So 273 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: a couple of things I want to talk about in 274 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: this since we're in the first episode. I've hinted at 275 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: this before. But the way this is going to play 276 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: out and the show versus how it plays out and 277 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: the game is just going to be very different. And 278 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: it's already proven that. So for instance, the scene, the 279 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: beautiful scene between Dina and Ellie at the dance is 280 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: one of the very last scenes of the game. Because 281 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: the game is told through a series of flashbacks that 282 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: happen that are hinted at. So the first main playthrough 283 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: you start is the day after the party, and everybody's 284 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: talking about it. Everybody's like, Ellie, what happened? We heard 285 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: you got in a fight with Joel, and so as 286 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: the player, you're trying to figure it out. But they 287 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: went ahead and put that early. And by the way, 288 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: people are freaking out because they left out one of 289 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: the most key parts of that. But I think it's 290 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: going to come later. I don't think they would cut 291 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: that out, but anyway, But also there's a lot of 292 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: shifts of POV. So another thing is the introduction to 293 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: Abby happens early in the game, but you don't know 294 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: what she's about as early you kind of are like, 295 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: who's this? You have your suspicions, but that's a very 296 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: early reveal of what of who she is and what 297 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: she's about. And that is a big theme in the 298 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: game is perspectives. And one thing that stuck out to 299 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: me and I was rewatching it is Joel how he 300 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: reframes a lot of things when people say things to her, 301 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: so like with the therapist, is like, say the thing 302 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: out loud, you know, say it, and he's like, ah, 303 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: I saved her. But then he also said that he 304 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: has this line where Dina ask him why is she 305 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: angry at you? Why is Ellie angry at you? But 306 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: he rephrases that what's wrong with her? Like, so he's 307 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: already he's constantly restructuring this. And then I did like 308 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 1: this line. It's very funny. But he says because I'm 309 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: a good guy, which I am to the. 310 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 4: Therapists like you felt my husband. Yeah, she gives him 311 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 4: the most like, but she has. Catherine O'Hara such a 312 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 4: great casting job. 313 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, And I was reading an interview with her 314 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: today about it, because she doesn't normally do such emotional roles, 315 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 1: not that she doesn't have the capacity to. But she said, like, 316 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: I just that takes a lot out of me. But 317 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: she was convinced to do this one. But she was very, 318 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: very very good as Gale of the Therapist, and I'm 319 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing more of her. Also, just want 320 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: to shout out the set design is really amazing. If 321 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: you want to look up side by sides, it's pretty 322 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: stunning how accurate it is. And also just some of 323 00:18:55,800 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: the things like the game mechanics, so the whole scene 324 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 1: where Ellie is learning how to use the scope for 325 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 1: the sniper rifles in the game, and it's even got 326 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: some of the same dialogue. Ellie's knife that is how 327 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: she kills clickers, by the way, and she's the only 328 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: character that can do that, which is really cool. Using 329 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: the bottle to distract the clickers kind of. The weapons 330 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 1: update table is a big feature of the game. Okay, 331 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:28,719 Speaker 1: but yes, this episode is called Future Days, and that 332 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 1: is a reference to a song that may or may 333 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: not be relevant in the show. I think it will be, 334 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: but it's a continuity error because technically it didn't exist 335 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: at the time, but it was a huge thing in 336 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 1: the game. It was like the song that plays the game. 337 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: It is a song by Pearl Jam, and Pearl Jam 338 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: loves it. They've like given their full you can use it. 339 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: It's like the perfect song for this. But that's where 340 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: the title comes from. And if you look in the 341 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: background of Ellie's room, you can see Pearl Jam poster. Also, 342 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 1: if you notice Ellie has a tattoo. Now, she has 343 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 1: a tattoo that covers what is a chemical burn. She 344 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: put over the bite on her arm to hide it. 345 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 1: By the way, Kat her ex designed, didn't design, but 346 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: put that tattoo on. Yes, Cat is only mentioned in 347 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: the game, so I was very surprised when Kat showed 348 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: up pleasantly. I was like, oh God. And there's also 349 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: the symbolism of the moth. The moth is pretty relevant 350 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: throughout the series in terms of, you know, the Firefly's 351 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: theme is look for the lights, and the moth does 352 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: that that the moth can never find the light, and 353 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: it's like just always constantly looking for it and never 354 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: can find it. And once we get further in, I'm 355 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: sure we'll talk about there are some other theories about 356 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,239 Speaker 1: why the moth is so important to this, but the 357 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: moth is part of for tattoo and it's also on 358 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: the guitar. 359 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 2: And also Gail already says the moth is about death. 360 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: Yes, man, Gail does not care she drunk. 361 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 2: She's okay, she either drunk or high. 362 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 1: He let her be. I read it. I read an 363 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: article today. It was like, let her have her vices. 364 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 2: I don't get everything is worse. Let her be. 365 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: It's her birthday, her birthday. 366 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 2: She's doing someone else's therapy, the man who killed her husband. 367 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 2: I mean, in her mind. 368 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: It is very funny. How well, this actually is a 369 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: good segue to the next thing. I want to talk 370 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: about how Joel is just sort of complaining about Ellie 371 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 1: not wanting to talk to him, which is a legitimate complaint, 372 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: but she's just listening to him, like. 373 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 2: She also makes that face when he punches, and she's 374 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 2: like huh yeah. 375 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 1: Well she's in the background, like sipping her drink. Oh 376 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 1: my gosh. But this was an interesting this is so 377 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: you have this five year jump, and it does it's 378 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: really clear and how we see Ellie and Joel, how 379 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: different they are now. So we have what I jokingly 380 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: refer to as old man Joel. I don't feel like 381 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: he was like this in the game. But in the 382 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 1: show he had a kind of old He's got his glasses, 383 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,719 Speaker 1: he's got he's got his his hair is a bit 384 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,719 Speaker 1: more gray than it is in the game. He's like 385 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: working on his he's tinkering, right, He's just he's got 386 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: kind of a he's complaining about things that feel very 387 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: kind of old man vibe, which is not present in 388 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: the game. And we have talked about that, and in 389 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: the show they I personally feel they made him a 390 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 1: much more sympathetic character, at least a bit softer. He's 391 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: not really like that in the game. He would not 392 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: go to therapy. In the game, I don't have that 393 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 1: for one single second. But they did introduce we talked 394 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: about this in one of our episodes. They did introduce 395 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: when they did one of the remasters. You can see 396 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: that he has medication for anxiety on his table before 397 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: the outbreak happens. So they were looking at that and 398 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: reintroducing that. And in the first season of the show 399 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: you do see him having like panic attacks, but he 400 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 1: again that's not in the game. That conversation he has 401 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 1: that's very moving with Tommy in the first season. He 402 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 1: did not have that in the game. I appreciate that 403 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 1: they're doing this, but it is a very, to me 404 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 1: stark difference in this character. You do also kind of 405 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: get these hints of him that we've already seen, but 406 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: when he's kind of leading the construction effort and when 407 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: all these refugees are coming in and Maria's asking him like, 408 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: we need to move faster, we don't have places for 409 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: these people, he's the one that says like, well, we 410 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 1: should turn them away because our life vote, we don't 411 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: have space for them. You should look after your own first, 412 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: which I think is telling based on the decision he made. Also, 413 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: this is gonna be a lot of discussion about fathers 414 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 1: in this season, a lot of different types of fathers. 415 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: But it was kind of fun to see him be like, well, 416 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: do you know likes me? She should be mine alder 417 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: she appreciates me, right, which is such a like that's 418 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: just not how it works. 419 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 2: Something hasn't lived with you. 420 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: Exactly. And then we have Ellie, who we are first 421 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: introduced to in this season, where she's fighting this guy 422 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: who is much bigger than her and she takes him down. 423 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: But I think there's a couple of points in here 424 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: that are also telling to her character arc that's coming. 425 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: One is she doesn't tap out. The guy taps out 426 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: twice and Jesse is saying, Okay, that's enough, that's enough, 427 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 1: and she doesn't stop, and she's like, oh, I've just 428 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: caught up in the moment. I just caught up in 429 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: the moment. And then she gets really really angry when 430 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: she finds out that Caleb, the person she was fighting, 431 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 1: pulled his punches. She does not like that, and that's 432 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: a part of her really shaving against Joel protecting her 433 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: because Jesse was like, well, I don't want to deal 434 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: with Joel if something, if you'd gotten knocked out or whatever, 435 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: and she just really did not like that. And I 436 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: think you can see through a couple of scenes the 437 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 1: toll of growing up in the Apocalypse, because it feels 438 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: much more And even when you play the game, it 439 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: does have this vibe it's like, oh, a clicker, I 440 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 1: can I've done it. I know how to do that, 441 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: whereas like the first time, it felt very much like, 442 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 1: oh god, a clicker, I'm dead for sure. So seeing 443 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 1: them kind of joke about it, you realize that they've 444 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: grown up with this stuff, and it's a little sobering, 445 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: but you have a couple of quotes around that where 446 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: Jesse asks like, can you take things a little more seriously? 447 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: And then when Ellie Dina's like, maybe we should. She's 448 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: thinking about going back when they hear two clickers, and 449 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 1: Ellie's like, if you'd rather let them in handle it. 450 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: So there's a there's a little bit of a rebelliousness 451 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 1: for sure happening and just I think chafing at the 452 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: over protectedness. Okay, but this does bring us to we've 453 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: got a whole cast of new characters, starting with Dina, 454 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: who's played by Isabella Murzad. She is Ellie's best friend 455 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 1: as we start out, and then becomes the two of 456 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: them become romantic with each other. Ellie is very interested 457 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: in her, doesn't think she can ever get her, thinks 458 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 1: that Dina is way too good for her. But then 459 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: you have the dancing scene and it's like really intimate, 460 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: which is unfortunately interrupted by Seth. The bigot which we 461 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: did talk about is it's very I don't think it's 462 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: inaccurate at all because this is twenty twenty nine when 463 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 1: it's happening, but it's very disheartening that there's still homophobia 464 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: in this world where they are Z obviously right, but 465 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: there is he's like, we're at a church. They're like 466 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: really okay, But yeah, there are a lot of queer 467 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: elements in the game, and Dina and Ellie's relationship is 468 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: one of the big ones. And I also noticed a 469 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: lot of times when Ellie kind of is like, let's 470 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: go scout aricon, Dina will follow her. It's usually Ellie's 471 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: idea and then Dina will be like yes, But I 472 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 1: think that dynamic will also be important in the future. 473 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: And then there's Jesse, yes, played by young Mazino, and 474 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 1: he's sort of the adult ish leader of their group, 475 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: but they're also friends. They're friends, but they have sort 476 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 1: of that awkward relationship of he's somebody who has authority 477 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 1: over you and you don't like it necessarily. But also again, 478 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: Jesse and Dina have an on again, off again relationship, 479 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: which complicates some things. But he's a big he's a 480 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: big character in this he'll be a big character in 481 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: the season. And then yes, we have Abby, Abby, Abby, 482 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, who's played by Caitlin Deaver, who was 483 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: a fan cast. By the way, that's not why she 484 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: got it. She auditioned for Ellie but she was a 485 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: fan cast outside of that, however, and we are going 486 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: to talk about this more because his character is extremely divisive. 487 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: I'm finding it really interesting some of the comments that 488 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: are coming out early about her where people are mad 489 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: about her body type because in the game, Abby was 490 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: very buff, very very buff, and it was for a 491 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,959 Speaker 1: couple of reasons, gameplay reasons, and one I think was 492 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: just a necessary plot point. But obviously Caitlin de Ver 493 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: is not that. But that people people were mad at 494 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: her being buff too, right, They had all these hateful 495 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: comments about how buff she was. 496 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 2: I think when you have like for me, they like 497 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 2: the game was just sexist, like over the top ridiculousness 498 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 2: the game for the show, I think it had maybe 499 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 2: for those who were fans of the game and like 500 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 2: it is that's not what you imagined. Like her facial structure, yes, 501 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 2: for sure, But like I said that too, I was like, oh, 502 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 2: she's a lot shorter and smaller than I thought she 503 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 2: would be. I thought like she would at least look 504 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 2: but to me, it's like she was similar to the 505 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 2: size of Ellie seemingly, which was not what I was 506 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 2: expecting because in the gameplay she is almost like five 507 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 2: inches taller than her and like a lot more muscular, 508 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 2: so was not quite especially when she was sitting next 509 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 2: to Owen, she looked really short compared to that character. 510 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 2: So I was like, oh uh oh, that's the thing 511 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 2: what shocked me the most, because she does look very, 512 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 2: very small, so that that threw me off. I didn't 513 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 2: say it was a bad thing. I was just like, ah, 514 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 2: that's not what I was expecting. So for maybe some 515 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 2: of those things, not the jerks who would like just 516 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 2: hate women in general, just in like because like we 517 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 2: saw the person who played helped make the game for Abby, 518 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 2: Like I've seen the you know, behind the scenes, she's big, 519 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 2: like she is a muscular woman and she exists. 520 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, And I mean we're gonna have to we'll 521 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,479 Speaker 1: talk about that when we get to whatever episode that 522 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: will be. But there was a lot of hateful rhetoric 523 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: around almost like anti trans transphobic, right, rhetoric around her 524 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: being so big and so now it's hard to tell. 525 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, are you the same people who just pissed 526 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: now or are you whatever it is different people. I don't. 527 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: Most of it has just been mostly kind of kind 528 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: of like what you were talking about, I did read 529 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: that they purposely cast somebody who looked more like Ellie 530 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: and body type, so I think that will play out 531 00:31:51,000 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: more in the future. I can't stress this enough. They 532 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: did reveal Abby's dad died in that scene where they're 533 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: going over the graves in the beginning, And you know, 534 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: the drafts are the same drafts that gift Ellie and 535 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: Joel saw. 536 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 2: They paid a lot of money for that. Those drafts. 537 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 2: We need to use them again, at least the same shots. 538 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 2: We need to use the same shots. 539 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, which do not in the game. But that's pretty good. 540 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: But I can't stress enough that you do not know 541 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: that until. 542 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 2: Later, right, we don't know what's why, and everybody immediately 543 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 2: hates her. 544 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. But I think that's point. 545 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: That's I have expressed my concern about this before because 546 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: just the way that the game versus the show will 547 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: play out, because in the game, you can keep playing. 548 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: But now we're going to have a wait of who 549 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: knows how long before the next season comes out, so 550 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: that weight I think could be pretty bad. Hopefully it 551 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: won't be that long because they're already in pre production. 552 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 2: But I wonder if they know that and so they're no, 553 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 2: like we're gonna have to do it within the same 554 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 2: year or within the next year, or we're gonna be 555 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 2: in trouble and lose all interest. 556 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: They have to know that, but I think that's the 557 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: reason they switch that around instead of having sort of 558 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: a mid game right reveal. Yeah, you also meet Abby's crew, 559 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: which is Owen, Nora, mel and Manny, and they will 560 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: all be I don't think they'll have two bigger role 561 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: in this season, but I could be wrong. I don't 562 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: know how they're splitting it, but they will have a 563 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: big role at some point. And then Eugene. Eugene is 564 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: a band of shocker because Eugene is in He's in Okay, 565 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: but he's a polar ooid picture, like his ghost is everywhere. 566 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: You kind of. 567 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 3: Running memories of him. 568 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, but you don't. So there's gonna 569 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: be a flashback episode with Eugene given to understand. But 570 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: this is Gail's husband, and Gail is a completely new character. 571 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: Like I said, she's there's no way you could convince 572 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: me that Joel video game Joel would get therapy. 573 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 2: But we also like in the game, I feel like 574 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 2: Eugene is like just a perverted old man, A little 575 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 2: bit proverted old only man. 576 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I didn't really like him. He's a guy 577 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: who kept to himself. 578 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 2: Right, but like you find all the porn that he said, 579 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 2: like all these things, like he is definite late. 580 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,479 Speaker 1: He grew a lot of weedy weed. But we'll see 581 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: how that plays out. Because they're doing that thing they 582 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: sort of did with Frank and Bill where this was 583 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: a mention or very brief moment in the game. So 584 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if they've changed his character how it's 585 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: gonna pay it, but they made clear with the weed 586 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: that that's gonna be true. 587 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 2: Yes, they're going to keep hold of that for sure. 588 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: Yes. Uh, then we we do have a lot of 589 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: new enemies. One of the biggest complaints the show owners 590 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 1: have said that they got from the last season is 591 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: that there wasn't enough infected, So there's gonna be way more. 592 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: We'll see how that works out. But there are new 593 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,439 Speaker 1: infected you get introduced to in the game. I don't 594 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: know how many of them they're going to include, but 595 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,280 Speaker 1: they've already introduced stalkers, which also don't come in until 596 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: about halfway in the game. So stalkers are this new 597 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:33,399 Speaker 1: type of infected that are smart. They can plan, they 598 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: can hide, they can run away, they can kind of 599 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: set traps. In the game. There's a function where you 600 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: can listen and like it's almost like sonar, like bat hearing, 601 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 1: and then you can hear like you can see sounds. 602 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: You know, you can't see stalkers. They're so annoying and 603 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: they can they come together in groups, so you be 604 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 1: fighting one and then want to tax you from behind. 605 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 2: So I was at least twelve oh no's with that appearance. 606 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, it's very raptor like, oh unmust they figure 607 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: out open doors? They figured out how to open the doors. 608 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: So frustrating, especially if there are clickers too, because then 609 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 1: you really have to strategize and runners. Anyway, one thing 610 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: I want to I just want to tease. I'm not 611 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 1: going to say anything more about it, but I'm incredibly 612 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: excited about the rat King, which I think will be 613 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: next season. But that's gonna be cool. That is like 614 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: the King of Infected. Yes exactly, I'm so excited. There's 615 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: a thing in the game where you can hear the 616 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 1: rat King, like long before you actually encounter it, and 617 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: I'm hoping they do that in the show. I think 618 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: that would be really cool. But all right, this brings 619 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 1: us to one of the biggest things, one of the 620 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 1: most jarring things of this episode and a game when 621 00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 1: you first start, is the rift between Joel and Ellie. 622 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 1: So when we last saw them, they seem to be 623 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 1: in an okay place. They're you know, going back home, 624 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: as Joel called it. They seem to have this father 625 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: daughter relationship, they've bonded, and now something has gone wrong, 626 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: and it is very clear, it is very awkwardly pigfully clear, 627 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: and we don't know quite what it is. We have 628 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: the suspicions of what it is, but we don't know 629 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: for sure. And this has a lot to do with 630 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: Ellie's lack loss of trust in Joel and questioning what 631 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: he's telling her and just how he's kind of controlling 632 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 1: her narrative. She's he's the one telling her, you cannot 633 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 1: tell anybody about this immunity. You cannot do that, and 634 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 1: he to the point other people as mentioned, no, if 635 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,839 Speaker 1: I do something wrong with Ellie, Joel's going to do 636 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 1: something possibly violent. So like Tommy lies to Joel about 637 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 1: hanging out with Ellie, Jesse says that thing where he's like, 638 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 1: I don't wanna, I don't need Joel bothering me, And 639 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 1: I really feel like there's this she's annoyed at both 640 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 1: the overprotectedness. She is convinced he's lying, but she's also 641 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 1: like having to deal with his anger violence overprotectedness when 642 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: it comes to other people. So like when he attacks Seth, 643 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 1: whether you think that's the right thing he should have 644 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 1: done or not, if you're looking at his past record 645 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: of how he's dealt with these threats, like she I 646 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 1: feel like she might think she has to stop him 647 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 1: from being violent. And also she definitely is annoyed at, 648 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 1: and I think rightfully so, at her agency being kind 649 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,319 Speaker 1: of taken away. And there is a lot of like 650 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 1: questioning about the impacts and consequences of violence, which will 651 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 1: be confronted with his decision. But we also see things 652 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: like the guitar because in the first season he said 653 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 1: he would teach her to play the guitar. He did 654 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 1: clearly he did, and she has a guitar, but she's 655 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 1: not keeping up with it. It's kind of discarded and 656 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,919 Speaker 1: she hasn't like the strings are bad, and he takes 657 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 1: it to fix it. So that's a clear sign something's wrong. Also, 658 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: she did move into the garage, and then you sort 659 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 1: of have this the therapist saying, it's such a normal problem, 660 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:53,359 Speaker 1: like a nineteen year old. It's every daughter ever has 661 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 1: this problem. But you know, we as the viewers know, no, 662 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 1: it's not just that. I mean, so does Gail, and 663 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 1: that's why she as her like, no, I know you're 664 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 1: lying and you're hiding something. Yes, But one thing I 665 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 1: thought was interesting in sort of the when the show 666 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 1: owners were talking about it and the clip after was 667 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 1: they were talking about that scene in the party after 668 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 1: Joel attacks Seth, I just pushes him down, and they said, like, 669 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 1: she inadvertently embarrasses Joel Ellie and inadvertedly embarrasses Joel, which 670 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 1: is interesting because I played this game with my brothers 671 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 1: and I was like, I feel like he invertedly embarrassed her, 672 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: And so that's kind of going back to that perspectives 673 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,400 Speaker 1: of who you think they I mean, honestly, it's probably 674 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 1: both both are true. But it was just so funny 675 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 1: because I remember look at my brothers to be like, 676 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 1: are you seriously look at this? Yeah? But then also 677 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 1: there are a lot of similarities that are going to 678 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 1: be explored. Tommy said, you know, you and my brother 679 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:03,360 Speaker 1: the same person to Ellie. But also you can start 680 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 1: to see some similarities between Abby and Joel, and they 681 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 1: talk about that in the after show too, about you know, 682 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 1: if this kind of remind if Abby's lost kind of 683 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 1: reminds you of Joel's loss of Sarah, then that's not unintentional. 684 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 1: You see Abby houses watch. So there are these things 685 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: that are gonna come come out and be more obvious 686 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 1: as we go forward, which I'm very excited about. Very excited. Okay, 687 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,319 Speaker 1: And this brings us to just some random shout outs 688 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:42,240 Speaker 1: that I have. So one is the knife, Ellie's knife, 689 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,839 Speaker 1: which her mom gave her. She still has, and that's 690 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:49,800 Speaker 1: how you kill the clickers. Shimmer her horse, if you remember, 691 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 1: she meets Shimmer when she's much younger. The horse is 692 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 1: much younger. And the first season Cat, I just cat 693 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 1: Ellie's X did the tattoo. I was not expecting Kat 694 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 1: to show up. 695 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 2: That was. 696 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 1: A real shock. She did not want to be there. 697 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,360 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. I wouldn't want to either. If you 698 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 1: look around Ellie's room, there are a ton of them. 699 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 1: Like the comic book posters. There's Also she has a 700 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 1: poster of space. She said she want to go to 701 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 1: the moon to be like Sally Ride. That's what she wanted. 702 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 1: Her journal is a game mechanic that you don't have 703 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 1: to actually engage with if you don't want to in 704 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 1: the game, but they like if you read it. A 705 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 1: lot of what she had written is what's from the game. 706 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,359 Speaker 1: If you remember, after they kill the clickers, Den and 707 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,319 Speaker 1: Ellie kill the clickers, there's a dog employee of the 708 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 1: month that is a clue to how to open a 709 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:52,839 Speaker 1: safe in the game. Multiple Curtis and Viper mentions, we 710 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 1: must shout that out. This is also something you can 711 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 1: miss in the game. It's kind of a conversation you 712 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 1: can have if you choose to with Dina or she's 713 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 1: talking about how Joel loves Curtis and Viper and she 714 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 1: mentions like, hell, yeah, we should watch them with Joel 715 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,919 Speaker 1: and I might watch them. And then just the line 716 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 1: because I love it, Oh, Ellie, I think they should 717 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:18,759 Speaker 1: be terrified of you, because oh my, it's so good. 718 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 1: It's so good. That whole scene was beautiful. It's like 719 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:27,800 Speaker 1: shot for shot, it's amazing. And that was the trailer 720 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:33,840 Speaker 1: for the game was pretty much that scene Crooked Stills music, 721 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 1: same music them. Yeah, oh my gosh. Anyway, thank you 722 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: so much listeners and Samantha for coming along this journey. 723 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 1: Hopefully they're fun. Even if you don't watch the show 724 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,279 Speaker 1: and you're not really interested, sort of like our Sex 725 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:49,360 Speaker 1: and the City things are. 726 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 2: Yes, please enjoy this with us. And yeah, just watching Annie, 727 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep a count. I'm like, keep a tally 728 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:57,320 Speaker 2: of the oh. 729 00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 1: Nos, some good some tallies the tears and yeah, we'll see. Yeah, 730 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 1: there are seven episodes in this season, so hopefully you 731 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,840 Speaker 1: don't absolutely hate this, but if you do, there's always 732 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 1: said calm down before we start, before we start season three, 733 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 1: whenever that will be. But yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm very 734 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 1: very excited. I'm looking forward to it and there's so 735 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,799 Speaker 1: many things I cannot wait to talk about. It's gonna 736 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 1: be great. But in the meantime, listeners, if you have 737 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 1: any thoughts, if you have any recipes, last of those 738 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,319 Speaker 1: recipes are things that you think are good fits for 739 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 1: the last of us. 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