WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: 2 Picks For Dallas; 2 Picks For Jags 0:00:01.240 --> 0:00:03.760 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:03.760 --> 0:00:06.920 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 0:00:07.000 --> 0:00:11.560 a break? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely ready 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:15.440 for a break. Yeah, and so much for that. It's 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:21.360 time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com with 0:00:21.480 --> 0:00:26.680 Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:30.240 Happy Friday, guys. We are here at the Star, rainy 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:34.400 day here in Frisco, feeling pretty cozy and great. Nick 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:36.760 looks very confused right now. What's going on with your 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:42.720 mic headphones? This is a holder just like this? I stop, stop, 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:47.760 rested up? Okay, Well we have some brand new place, man. 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:50.400 I don't know what's what's going on here. We have 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:52.840 some interesting things that we're gonna be talking about today, 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:55.960 one of them being Jerry Jones that made a comment 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:59.720 earlier this morning. We'll get into that later in the segment, 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:03.120 but first let's start off with where we left off 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:07.360 on yesterday's show. Derek, you we're gonna bring the whole 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:13.360 ze versus Jalen Ramsey and Miles Jack versus Jalen Smith. 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:16.039 What was your question with that? Well, really, what I 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:19.880 wanted to talk about was right now. This week, the 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:23.200 Cowboys face a team where there are two players on 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:27.600 each team that are inextricably linked to players on the 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:30.440 other team because of where they would drafted. I think 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:34.000 if you remember back, Jalen Smith and Miles Jack, they 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:36.920 were the two linebackers that in that draft most people 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:39.240 thought were the two best linebackers in that draft, but 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:41.840 for the fact that they were both injured, and then 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:45.000 there were questions about how injured. Right there was questions 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:48.720 about Miles Jack was more he could play. I think yes. 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:50.760 I was talking to Brian. His quote was he could 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:53.040 play ten games or ten years, Like it was one 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:55.040 of those things where he can play now, but I 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:57.640 don't know how long he'll play. With Jayalen Smith, it 0:01:57.720 --> 0:01:59.960 was like, I don't know if you'll ever play well again. 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:03.320 In both of them are playing now, both of them 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:06.640 are playing pretty well. Um. So I ask you, guys 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:09.359 the question with regards to Miles Jack and Jalen Smith, 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:12.440 do you think the Cowboys still made the right decision 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:15.400 in going with Miles Jack and not going with I'm sorry, 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:18.200 and going with Jaylen Smith and not going with Miles Jack. 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:21.359 I take issue with it on a small level, just 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:25.519 because like, for instance, the Zeke Jalen thing, that is 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:31.840 an interesting and lively debate because Zeke Zeke up, I 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:35.280 thought you Jalen Smith. Yeah, I got to get that now. Um, 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:37.960 we know that it was pretty much down to those two. 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:39.840 They were going to take one, and they chose Zeke. 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:43.360 I have never heard anything to suggest that if they 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:45.400 hadn't taken Jalen Smith, that they were going to take 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:49.160 Miles Jack. He had his own medical They didn't work 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:51.280 with him the way that they did the surgery on Jalen. 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:54.160 They did not have that inside information that made the 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:56.960 you know, they were so confident in Jaylen because of that. 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:00.320 So I don't think it's as clean of a compare Arrison, 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:02.639 just because if they hadn't taken Jalen Smith, I don't 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:04.480 know for sure what they would have done, so it's 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:06.600 a little bit different. But do you think that that 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:09.160 was a situation where they took Jalen Smith because of 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:11.440 the talent, not necessarily because they felt like they needed 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:13.440 to get a linebacker? Oh? Do you think there was 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:16.920 another linebacker that they had ahead of Miles Jack that 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:19.400 they may would that maybe they would have taken I 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:22.840 I that's I don't know, because Miles Jack was clearly 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:28.680 the next best linebacker and Kevin Dodd and there was another. Oh, 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:31.800 and Emmanuel Ogba literally went off the board boom boom, 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:33.560 right in front of him. So like that's and Oga. 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:36.280 They were supposedly very they were probably going to draft 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:38.960 Ogba if he hadn't gone to Cleveland two picks before. 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:41.600 But I can't say it with certainty that they would 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:43.400 have taken Miles Jack in that spot. And I don't 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:44.960 know what they would have done. They could have. I mean, 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:47.160 there were some corners there. I think there was there 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:49.400 were safeties. I'd have to look at it to be sure. 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:52.240 But so I don't think it's as easy as saying, 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:54.280 if Jalen Smith isn't on this team, Miles Jack is. 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:58.320 But they clearly I mean to talk to any draft analyst, 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:00.520 and Jalen Smith would have been ranked is one of 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:03.600 the five best players in that draft if he has overall, 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:07.000 absolutely if he hadn't been hurt. So we know they 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:09.000 like to take chances in the second round. They're like, well, 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:11.160 our doctor gave us a reason to feel good about this, 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:13.400 and if he can even get close to that talent level, 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:16.280 this pick will be worth it, and we killed him 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:19.039 for it, a lot of people did, and it it's 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:21.680 still early, but it looks like it's paying off. I mean, 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:23.680 even if they make a good decision, even if he 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:27.480 just plays at this level, you know, borderline Pro Bowl, 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:31.719 probably still not perfect, but still with his leadership and 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:33.880 intangibles and everything, I mean, yeah, it looks like it's 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:36.880 going to be well worth it in the long run. Nick, Um, 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:39.520 I agree with all that. I think doctor Cooper is 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:41.279 the is the key there. I mean, I think that 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:45.040 the information that they got, Um, Yeah, and you're right, 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:48.240 this is not a clear cut I mean Myles Jack 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:51.280 I don't even know was on their board. I'm not 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:53.960 sure about that because he's just never his name was 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:56.040 never being mentioned. He really wasn't being talked about it 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:58.840 other than Brian. I mean, I don't And that's that's 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:00.960 my point is, Yeah, I don't know if he's on 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:03.400 their board either because and it's it's different because Jalen's 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:06.360 like he's got to do all this recovery, whereas Miles Jack, 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:08.840 to your points, like he could play today, but we're 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:12.240 not sure about that knee. So Jalen, though, you know, 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:14.720 I think that they had just evaluated him so high. 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:16.520 That was like, you know, we've done this before with 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:19.479 other guys, with players that are you know, fall into 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:21.680 this spot. This is what Jerry likes to do, and 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:24.480 it's worked pretty well. Worked with Shawn Lee, I think 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:26.440 you could say. I mean, they tried it with Bruce Carter. 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:28.520 That didn't really work so well. I mean, I know 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:31.240 there's been some others in the second round that that 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:34.760 you know, did Lawrence come in with an injury? Um? No, No, 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:37.039 I thought one of the defensive ends came in. I mean, 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:39.640 I mean, I can't remember. You can make Randy Gregory 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:42.640 was another situation, you know. So it falls for different reasons. 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:45.440 So they're looking for value in the second round. You 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:47.880 can't get any better value than that. If he can 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:49.840 play to that level right now, he's doing it. So 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:51.600 I think that one's pretty good and the other one. 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:54.560 The other one's interesting too. Yeah, if you're going there, yeah, 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:56.760 I mean you look at Jalen Ramsey and you look 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:59.480 at Ezekiel Elliot, and like you said, Dave, they were 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:01.960 going to pick. The conventional wisdom was they were going 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:04.960 to pick one of those two guys. They chose Zeke 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:08.920 over Jalen Ramsey, and I think the biggest question around 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:12.520 that really is about the position, because when you think 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:16.000 about the way the NFL values a cornerback versus running back, 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:19.039 it's way harder, it seems like, in today's NFL to 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:23.040 find a quality cornerback or great cornerback than it is 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:25.360 to find a great running back. And you can tend 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:27.960 to find great running backs even later in the draft. So, 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:30.240 with all that we've seen and all that we've heard 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:32.720 to this point and how they've both performed there so 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:35.359 far in their careers, both of them have been really, 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:37.720 really good players, do you think the Cowboys made the 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:41.080 right decision in going with the running back over the cornerback. Yes, 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:44.919 And I wonder if Jacksonville, I don't know, if how 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:48.760 would have twenty sixteen looked like wouldn't have looked like that? 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:50.960 I don't know. But you know, here's the question, that's 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:53.640 where other people that would argue on the opposite side 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:56.080 would say, tell me who the Cowboys would have selected 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:58.200 in the third or fourth round then, because they may 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:00.720 have selected a running back that could have turned out 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:02.880 to be a really good running back in the third 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:05.400 or fourth round and they've got a shut down corner 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:08.120 over there on the outside. So I don't think it's 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:09.640 as easy as just saying, well, if you didn't have 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:12.440 Zeke in twenty and sixteen, wasn't gonna be. Good running 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:15.800 backs are in this league very much, you know. I 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:17.480 don't want to say a diamond doesn't. But you can 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:19.520 find good running backs in a lot of places in 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:22.480 this league. That being said, Jalen Ramsey's probably not the 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:24.679 player that he is there too, because he's not getting 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:26.880 as much help as up front as he as he 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:29.760 got in Jacksonville. It would be now though it might 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:32.960 be now pass rushing now, wouldn't you say? Maybe? Yeah? 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:36.679 I mean it's it's not as good as Jacksonville sixteen. 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:39.520 I don't think so. Statistically they're better than Jacksonville this year? 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:41.920 Aren't they this year? As a pass rush? Yea? This year? Yeah? 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:45.440 This year. Hey. They asked the best cornerback in the 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:48.480 history of the NFL what he thought of Jalen Ramsey. 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:51.720 They played the same position, they went to the same school, 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:55.520 and he said Dion Sanders said that he looks like 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:58.320 a safety. Doesn't not sure if he's got the hips 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:02.000 for it. I was told that by two different people 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:05.720 that in around the scouting coaching area. They said that 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:08.800 Dion kind of thought he was more of a safety 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:11.040 and with the fourth overall pick, they didn't want to 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:13.720 draft the safety. But he did say on record he 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:15.720 thought the Cowboys should take him because he thought he 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:18.360 was going to be a great cornerback. Now that's I 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:20.320 heard him say that. I know. I heard him say that. 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:22.800 He did an interview on NFL Network where he went 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:26.200 out and spent a day or whatever with Jalen Ramsey, 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:28.080 and then after that they came back and they did 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:31.320 the debrief there on set, and he said, I think 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:33.679 this is gonna be a really good safety in the NFL. 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:36.240 And then I saw him on another program later where 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:38.520 he said he thought the Cowboys should take him. Now again, 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:40.480 you know, he could say a lot of things on 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:42.600 the record that are different than off the record, but 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:44.400 on the record that's what he was dying. Which one 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:45.640 is it, did you say he was going to be 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:48.599 a safety or as a corner? You just said you 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:50.600 first you said corner, then you said safety. What did 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:52.480 I'm sorry it was not safety. I'd never heard him 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:54.400 say safety on the record. I never heard say safety 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:57.120 on record that's I wrote about that in my column yesterday, 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:59.600 like that's a forgotten storyline. He might have wound up 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:03.559 at corner, but there was conventional wisdom said they might 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:05.920 try him at safety, Like there was no consensus. It 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:08.800 seems dumb now because he's all pro, but there were 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:10.400 plenty of teams that thought he would make a better 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:12.640 safety than a corner. Who knows what the Cowboys would 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:14.840 have done. That's I wrote. I tried. I tried to 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:17.040 go as many levels deep as I could with this 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:20.120 in my column because it's crazy, You're absolutely right, like 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:22.480 and you know it's you know, people love to say, like, oh, 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:24.360 they could have gotten Jordan Howard in the fifth round. 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:26.360 Jordan Howard wasn't on their radar. It probably would have 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:29.160 been Derrick Henry or Paul Perkins. If I had to guess, 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:33.320 does Romo get hurt in that scenario or he's one 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:36.400 of those guys good enough to just completely fuel your 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:39.439 offense the way Zeke did. Probably not. Your defense is 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:41.640 a lot better. Do you draft Dak? You might have 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:44.040 to take Paul Perkins in the fourth round. That's about 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:47.200 where he wound up. CJ. Prosis is another guy they 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:49.200 liked you could have had him in the second instead 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:52.640 of Jalen Smith. It's I mean, the whole thing would change, right, 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:54.240 That's what I'm saying. There's a lot of difference, So 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:56.920 it's hard to say, kind of make that a ju 0:09:57.080 --> 0:09:59.720 I mean to make that statement about twenty sixteen. Don't 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:02.400 know if Jacksonville at that point, And I know they 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:04.800 took fourn At the next year, right, but at that 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:09.040 point I think they weren't. They still like, didn't they 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:11.240 have a guy that they kind of liked. They weren't 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:13.920 really they had yelled in and um, I don't know 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:16.439 if they were gonna take Zeke right there. No, in 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:18.520 fact they did it was it was it still? Um 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:21.960 was that before DeAngelo Williams? No, No, he was with 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:25.200 Carolina by somebody else that seemed like an older running 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:28.319 back that was there before all those guys. As as 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:31.560 you might imagine, Jacksonville's media has been talking about this too, 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:35.199 and they were they were aiming to fix their defense 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:37.280 in that draft, like they were not going to draft Zeek. 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:39.280 They were it was gonna be Jalen. I think they 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:42.640 liked Bosa. He went third. Um I took him off 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:44.920 the board. Was another guy that Cowboys were linked to. 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:47.880 They loved DeForest Buckner as well, who's been good in 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:51.960 San Francisco, not on Zeke or Jalen's level, but um yeah, 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:54.320 it's wild to think about the other thing. Well, what 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:57.000 I was going to say is it's a cop out, 0:10:57.040 --> 0:10:59.360 but you can't answer if it was the right move 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:02.720 right now, you really can't. Um. I think Zeke's gonna 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:06.600 be an Adrian Peterson type of, like, you know, generational 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:08.040 running back. I'm not saying he's going to the Hall 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:09.920 of Fame, but he's going to be one of the 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:12.040 best backs in the league for the period of time 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:14.160 that he's playing. You know. And there are some people 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:16.320 in Jacksonville right now, I mean quietly. I don't think 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:19.200 they're coming out saying it, but but they are a 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:22.480 little bit you know, down on Fournet and disappointed with 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:25.040 what he's been able to do and not do. And 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:27.640 you look at Zeke and there's the risk that's taken 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:31.120 the running back that high. And Cowboy's had some issues 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:33.760 off the field with him, but for the most part 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:36.880 as far as production that you know, when he's there, 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:39.320 he's there right and people see that. So I would 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:41.560 guess Jalen Ramsey's going to be able to play. I 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:44.360 think about Charles Woodson and Adrian Peterson like that. I 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:46.120 mean they don't they don't play similarly, but I just 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:48.959 think about their career arcs. Adrian Peterson was the best 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:50.560 or one of the best in the league for about 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:54.320 nine years. Charles Woodson played for seventeen. I think it's 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:57.840 way more likely Jalen Ramsey's gonna play longer Zeke's higher level. 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:00.760 Zeke is gonna make your offense viable, slash good and 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:03.600 be a pro bowler for probably eight years, and if 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:05.599 you win a championship in that window, then it was 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:08.320 the right pick. Like I mean, if Jalen Ramsey plays 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:10.640 a decade longer than Zeke, but Zeke helps the Cowboys 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:13.280 win their six Super Bowl, is anybody gonna just seriously 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:16.840 quibble about it. But if they don't, and you know, 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:19.600 if Zeke retires and it never gets better than twenty 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:23.960 sixteen and Jalen Ramsey plays until twenty twenty five, then 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:26.040 it's a different conversation. And I think the part that 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:28.800 can't be lost in all this is the whole philosophy. 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:31.160 You get my twenty thirty five whatever you get my point. 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:33.880 The whole philosophy that the Cowboys have taken, that they're 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:36.360 going to go the route of having a run first offense, 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:39.760 and if that works, then having a guy like Zeke 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:42.520 makes a bunch of sense. If we find out later 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:44.880 that that was a bad decision to go with that 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:47.760 philosophy in today's NFL, where it's geared so much to 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:50.600 war teams being able to pass efficiently, I mean be 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:52.520 able to pass and needing to be able to pass 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:55.240 in order to win, then then it becomes a much 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:58.000 different conversation because now you're talking about a guy that 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:00.440 could have defended against the pass verse as a guy 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:02.599 that is a runner primary, that is a runner, And 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:05.400 that change is that whole, the whole complexion that debate, 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:08.120 regardless of how they perform, it changes whether it was 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:10.720 a good decision or not. But you know, it actually 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:13.240 worked out better than they thought it would because to 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:17.400 have Dak start all those games, you needed Zeke. You know, 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:20.800 if Rammo's gonna probably get hurt either way, Romeo gets 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:23.560 hurt and you've got Jalen Ramsey, now you've got some 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:26.160 issues big time at the running back and the whole offense. 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:29.600 So I mean it probably worked out the way it 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:33.040 needed to. Right then, all right, well this is a 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:36.360 potato potato discussion, So we'll leave it at that. 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There's no fraud in Jason Garrett. 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:23.960 Does he have some things he could do better, of course, 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:27.760 but what I think is that we have an asset 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:30.160 that will get us to where we want to go, 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:37.800 which is eight championship. Initial reactions to this comment that 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:48.520 Jerry Jones made. He's obviously not ready to an insane okay, 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:54.800 um he's not ready to make a change there. So, um, 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:57.840 he's gonna, you know, have that approach. He's gonna stick 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:01.480 by that for sure. And so you know, that's what 0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:03.960 that's what he believes. He believes that he is not 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:06.119 a fraud. I mean, I don't know, I don't know 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:10.800 what the question was there. Um, but you know, just 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:12.560 to say, yeah, I mean he could do some things better, 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:16.960 that's fine, has the assets to win a championship. You know, 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:20.320 fans don't really want to hear it because they because 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:22.240 they ain't seen it. They don't see anything really close 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:25.320 to that. There's one playoff win there. So, um, but 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:28.280 I think why I believe it's just important is the 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:30.719 last time we really heard him talking about it, he 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:33.439 said that he questioned the decision that Jason made. And 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:35.840 that's been a big topic of discussion this week, is 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:38.320 what should he have punted or not? You know, And 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:42.040 I just think that it's it's a you know, Garrett's 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:45.080 making sure that, I mean, Jerry's making sure that he's 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:47.360 gonna say all the right things when it comes to 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:50.360 backing his coach when he really didn't do that Sunday night. 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:53.440 Here's the fact the matter, He had two choices here. 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:57.720 He could either endorse his head coach or anything else. 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:02.520 If he no comments, if he says something that's lukewarm, 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:05.040 if he says, hey, he's got a lot of problems, 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:08.040 any of that other stuff. And now he's created a 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:11.679 whole firestor exactly, he's created a whole firestorm, not just 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:13.720 with the media, but now even in the locker room, 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:17.480 because in the locker room, players are now saying the 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:21.080 owner's questioning the owner is doesn't have faith in the 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:23.880 head coach, why should I. He's created a whole different things. 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:26.040 So in that scenario, to me, this is one of 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:28.520 those things where yeah, he's gonna have to take the 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:31.600 brunt of public backlash on this one because that's the 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:35.280 nature of it. But based on the two options of 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:37.720 what he had, this is what the owner is gonna do. 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:39.600 And I'm not talking about jar I'm talking any owner. 0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:42.440 He's gonna do this most of the time unless he's 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:44.479 at a point where he's like, I think we need 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:47.119 to make a move. Otherwise, the owner is gonna always 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:49.360 say I backed my head coach, he's the right man 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:51.480 for the job. He's you know, the owner has to 0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:54.359 sell to the public. This is the guy that we 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:56.479 need to have faith in. So he's gonna do that 0:18:56.560 --> 0:18:58.800 every single time unless he's at a point where he's 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:02.920 like gotta go, and that point even when I'm sorry, 0:19:03.320 --> 0:19:05.760 said but no one is buying. I get it, that's 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:08.560 maybe they shouldn't. But the point is, I'm just saying 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:10.600 we all have to take a step back here and realize, 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:12.800 like what else was he gonna say? Yeah, you're making 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:16.000 a different kind of comment, only creates problem, and you 0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:18.600 need to That's who you have right now, Jason Garrett, 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:21.120 and you need to show him support. Obviously. I'm sure 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:24.439 behind doors they're not just sitting there drinking coffee or 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:27.240 whiskey and that laxing not to bring, not to bring 0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:30.200