1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: a break? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely ready 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: for a break. Yeah, and so much for that. It's 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com with 6 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 7 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: Happy Friday, guys. We are here at the Star, rainy 8 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: day here in Frisco, feeling pretty cozy and great. Nick 9 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: looks very confused right now. What's going on with your 10 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: mic headphones? This is a holder just like this? I stop, stop, 11 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: rested up? Okay, Well we have some brand new place, man. 12 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: I don't know what's what's going on here. We have 13 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: some interesting things that we're gonna be talking about today, 14 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: one of them being Jerry Jones that made a comment 15 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: earlier this morning. We'll get into that later in the segment, 16 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: but first let's start off with where we left off 17 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: on yesterday's show. Derek, you we're gonna bring the whole 18 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: ze versus Jalen Ramsey and Miles Jack versus Jalen Smith. 19 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: What was your question with that? Well, really, what I 20 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about was right now. This week, the 21 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: Cowboys face a team where there are two players on 22 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: each team that are inextricably linked to players on the 23 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: other team because of where they would drafted. I think 24 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: if you remember back, Jalen Smith and Miles Jack, they 25 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: were the two linebackers that in that draft most people 26 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: thought were the two best linebackers in that draft, but 27 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: for the fact that they were both injured, and then 28 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: there were questions about how injured. Right there was questions 29 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: about Miles Jack was more he could play. I think yes. 30 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: I was talking to Brian. His quote was he could 31 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: play ten games or ten years, Like it was one 32 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: of those things where he can play now, but I 33 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: don't know how long he'll play. With Jayalen Smith, it 34 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: was like, I don't know if you'll ever play well again. 35 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: In both of them are playing now, both of them 36 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: are playing pretty well. Um. So I ask you, guys 37 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 1: the question with regards to Miles Jack and Jalen Smith, 38 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: do you think the Cowboys still made the right decision 39 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: in going with Miles Jack and not going with I'm sorry, 40 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: and going with Jaylen Smith and not going with Miles Jack. 41 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 1: I take issue with it on a small level, just 42 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 1: because like, for instance, the Zeke Jalen thing, that is 43 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: an interesting and lively debate because Zeke Zeke up, I 44 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: thought you Jalen Smith. Yeah, I got to get that now. Um, 45 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: we know that it was pretty much down to those two. 46 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: They were going to take one, and they chose Zeke. 47 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: I have never heard anything to suggest that if they 48 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: hadn't taken Jalen Smith, that they were going to take 49 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: Miles Jack. He had his own medical They didn't work 50 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: with him the way that they did the surgery on Jalen. 51 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: They did not have that inside information that made the 52 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: you know, they were so confident in Jaylen because of that. 53 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: So I don't think it's as clean of a compare Arrison, 54 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: just because if they hadn't taken Jalen Smith, I don't 55 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: know for sure what they would have done, so it's 56 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: a little bit different. But do you think that that 57 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: was a situation where they took Jalen Smith because of 58 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: the talent, not necessarily because they felt like they needed 59 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: to get a linebacker? Oh? Do you think there was 60 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: another linebacker that they had ahead of Miles Jack that 61 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: they may would that maybe they would have taken I 62 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: I that's I don't know, because Miles Jack was clearly 63 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: the next best linebacker and Kevin Dodd and there was another. Oh, 64 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: and Emmanuel Ogba literally went off the board boom boom, 65 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: right in front of him. So like that's and Oga. 66 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: They were supposedly very they were probably going to draft 67 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: Ogba if he hadn't gone to Cleveland two picks before. 68 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: But I can't say it with certainty that they would 69 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: have taken Miles Jack in that spot. And I don't 70 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: know what they would have done. They could have. I mean, 71 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: there were some corners there. I think there was there 72 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: were safeties. I'd have to look at it to be sure. 73 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: But so I don't think it's as easy as saying, 74 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: if Jalen Smith isn't on this team, Miles Jack is. 75 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: But they clearly I mean to talk to any draft analyst, 76 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: and Jalen Smith would have been ranked is one of 77 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: the five best players in that draft if he has overall, 78 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: absolutely if he hadn't been hurt. So we know they 79 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: like to take chances in the second round. They're like, well, 80 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: our doctor gave us a reason to feel good about this, 81 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: and if he can even get close to that talent level, 82 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: this pick will be worth it, and we killed him 83 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: for it, a lot of people did, and it it's 84 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: still early, but it looks like it's paying off. I mean, 85 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: even if they make a good decision, even if he 86 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: just plays at this level, you know, borderline Pro Bowl, 87 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: probably still not perfect, but still with his leadership and 88 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: intangibles and everything, I mean, yeah, it looks like it's 89 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: going to be well worth it in the long run. Nick, Um, 90 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: I agree with all that. I think doctor Cooper is 91 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: the is the key there. I mean, I think that 92 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: the information that they got, Um, Yeah, and you're right, 93 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: this is not a clear cut I mean Myles Jack 94 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: I don't even know was on their board. I'm not 95 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: sure about that because he's just never his name was 96 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: never being mentioned. He really wasn't being talked about it 97 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: other than Brian. I mean, I don't And that's that's 98 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: my point is, Yeah, I don't know if he's on 99 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: their board either because and it's it's different because Jalen's 100 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: like he's got to do all this recovery, whereas Miles Jack, 101 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: to your points, like he could play today, but we're 102 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: not sure about that knee. So Jalen, though, you know, 103 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: I think that they had just evaluated him so high. 104 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: That was like, you know, we've done this before with 105 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: other guys, with players that are you know, fall into 106 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: this spot. This is what Jerry likes to do, and 107 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: it's worked pretty well. Worked with Shawn Lee, I think 108 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: you could say. I mean, they tried it with Bruce Carter. 109 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: That didn't really work so well. I mean, I know 110 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: there's been some others in the second round that that 111 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: you know, did Lawrence come in with an injury? Um? No, No, 112 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: I thought one of the defensive ends came in. I mean, 113 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I can't remember. You can make Randy Gregory 114 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: was another situation, you know. So it falls for different reasons. 115 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: So they're looking for value in the second round. You 116 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: can't get any better value than that. If he can 117 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: play to that level right now, he's doing it. So 118 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: I think that one's pretty good and the other one. 119 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: The other one's interesting too. Yeah, if you're going there, yeah, 120 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: I mean you look at Jalen Ramsey and you look 121 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: at Ezekiel Elliot, and like you said, Dave, they were 122 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: going to pick. The conventional wisdom was they were going 123 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: to pick one of those two guys. They chose Zeke 124 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: over Jalen Ramsey, and I think the biggest question around 125 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: that really is about the position, because when you think 126 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: about the way the NFL values a cornerback versus running back, 127 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: it's way harder, it seems like, in today's NFL to 128 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: find a quality cornerback or great cornerback than it is 129 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: to find a great running back. And you can tend 130 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: to find great running backs even later in the draft. So, 131 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: with all that we've seen and all that we've heard 132 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 1: to this point and how they've both performed there so 133 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: far in their careers, both of them have been really, 134 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: really good players, do you think the Cowboys made the 135 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: right decision in going with the running back over the cornerback. Yes, 136 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 1: And I wonder if Jacksonville, I don't know, if how 137 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: would have twenty sixteen looked like wouldn't have looked like that? 138 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. But you know, here's the question, that's 139 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: where other people that would argue on the opposite side 140 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: would say, tell me who the Cowboys would have selected 141 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: in the third or fourth round then, because they may 142 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: have selected a running back that could have turned out 143 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: to be a really good running back in the third 144 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: or fourth round and they've got a shut down corner 145 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: over there on the outside. So I don't think it's 146 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: as easy as just saying, well, if you didn't have 147 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: Zeke in twenty and sixteen, wasn't gonna be. Good running 148 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: backs are in this league very much, you know. I 149 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: don't want to say a diamond doesn't. But you can 150 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: find good running backs in a lot of places in 151 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: this league. That being said, Jalen Ramsey's probably not the 152 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,679 Speaker 1: player that he is there too, because he's not getting 153 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: as much help as up front as he as he 154 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: got in Jacksonville. It would be now though it might 155 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: be now pass rushing now, wouldn't you say? Maybe? Yeah? 156 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,679 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's not as good as Jacksonville sixteen. 157 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: I don't think so. Statistically they're better than Jacksonville this year? 158 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: Aren't they this year? As a pass rush? Yea? This year? Yeah? 159 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: This year. Hey. They asked the best cornerback in the 160 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: history of the NFL what he thought of Jalen Ramsey. 161 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: They played the same position, they went to the same school, 162 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: and he said Dion Sanders said that he looks like 163 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: a safety. Doesn't not sure if he's got the hips 164 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: for it. I was told that by two different people 165 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: that in around the scouting coaching area. They said that 166 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: Dion kind of thought he was more of a safety 167 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: and with the fourth overall pick, they didn't want to 168 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: draft the safety. But he did say on record he 169 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: thought the Cowboys should take him because he thought he 170 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: was going to be a great cornerback. Now that's I 171 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: heard him say that. I know. I heard him say that. 172 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: He did an interview on NFL Network where he went 173 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: out and spent a day or whatever with Jalen Ramsey, 174 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: and then after that they came back and they did 175 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: the debrief there on set, and he said, I think 176 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: this is gonna be a really good safety in the NFL. 177 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: And then I saw him on another program later where 178 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: he said he thought the Cowboys should take him. Now again, 179 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: you know, he could say a lot of things on 180 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: the record that are different than off the record, but 181 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: on the record that's what he was dying. Which one 182 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: is it, did you say he was going to be 183 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,599 Speaker 1: a safety or as a corner? You just said you 184 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: first you said corner, then you said safety. What did 185 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: I'm sorry it was not safety. I'd never heard him 186 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: say safety on the record. I never heard say safety 187 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: on record that's I wrote about that in my column yesterday, 188 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: like that's a forgotten storyline. He might have wound up 189 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 1: at corner, but there was conventional wisdom said they might 190 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: try him at safety, Like there was no consensus. It 191 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: seems dumb now because he's all pro, but there were 192 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: plenty of teams that thought he would make a better 193 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: safety than a corner. Who knows what the Cowboys would 194 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: have done. That's I wrote. I tried. I tried to 195 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: go as many levels deep as I could with this 196 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: in my column because it's crazy, You're absolutely right, like 197 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: and you know it's you know, people love to say, like, oh, 198 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: they could have gotten Jordan Howard in the fifth round. 199 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: Jordan Howard wasn't on their radar. It probably would have 200 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: been Derrick Henry or Paul Perkins. If I had to guess, 201 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: does Romo get hurt in that scenario or he's one 202 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: of those guys good enough to just completely fuel your 203 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 1: offense the way Zeke did. Probably not. Your defense is 204 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: a lot better. Do you draft Dak? You might have 205 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: to take Paul Perkins in the fourth round. That's about 206 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: where he wound up. CJ. Prosis is another guy they 207 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: liked you could have had him in the second instead 208 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: of Jalen Smith. It's I mean, the whole thing would change, right, 209 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. There's a lot of difference, So 210 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: it's hard to say, kind of make that a ju 211 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: I mean to make that statement about twenty sixteen. Don't 212 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: know if Jacksonville at that point, And I know they 213 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: took fourn At the next year, right, but at that 214 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: point I think they weren't. They still like, didn't they 215 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: have a guy that they kind of liked. They weren't 216 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: really they had yelled in and um, I don't know 217 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 1: if they were gonna take Zeke right there. No, in 218 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: fact they did it was it was it still? Um 219 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: was that before DeAngelo Williams? No, No, he was with 220 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: Carolina by somebody else that seemed like an older running 221 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 1: back that was there before all those guys. As as 222 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: you might imagine, Jacksonville's media has been talking about this too, 223 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 1: and they were they were aiming to fix their defense 224 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: in that draft, like they were not going to draft Zeek. 225 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: They were it was gonna be Jalen. I think they 226 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: liked Bosa. He went third. Um I took him off 227 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: the board. Was another guy that Cowboys were linked to. 228 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: They loved DeForest Buckner as well, who's been good in 229 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: San Francisco, not on Zeke or Jalen's level, but um yeah, 230 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: it's wild to think about the other thing. Well, what 231 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: I was going to say is it's a cop out, 232 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: but you can't answer if it was the right move 233 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: right now, you really can't. Um. I think Zeke's gonna 234 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: be an Adrian Peterson type of, like, you know, generational 235 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: running back. I'm not saying he's going to the Hall 236 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: of Fame, but he's going to be one of the 237 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: best backs in the league for the period of time 238 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: that he's playing. You know. And there are some people 239 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville right now, I mean quietly. I don't think 240 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: they're coming out saying it, but but they are a 241 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: little bit you know, down on Fournet and disappointed with 242 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: what he's been able to do and not do. And 243 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: you look at Zeke and there's the risk that's taken 244 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: the running back that high. And Cowboy's had some issues 245 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: off the field with him, but for the most part 246 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: as far as production that you know, when he's there, 247 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: he's there right and people see that. So I would 248 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: guess Jalen Ramsey's going to be able to play. I 249 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: think about Charles Woodson and Adrian Peterson like that. I 250 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: mean they don't they don't play similarly, but I just 251 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,959 Speaker 1: think about their career arcs. Adrian Peterson was the best 252 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: or one of the best in the league for about 253 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: nine years. Charles Woodson played for seventeen. I think it's 254 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: way more likely Jalen Ramsey's gonna play longer Zeke's higher level. 255 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: Zeke is gonna make your offense viable, slash good and 256 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: be a pro bowler for probably eight years, and if 257 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,599 Speaker 1: you win a championship in that window, then it was 258 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: the right pick. Like I mean, if Jalen Ramsey plays 259 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: a decade longer than Zeke, but Zeke helps the Cowboys 260 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: win their six Super Bowl, is anybody gonna just seriously 261 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: quibble about it. But if they don't, and you know, 262 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: if Zeke retires and it never gets better than twenty 263 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: sixteen and Jalen Ramsey plays until twenty twenty five, then 264 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: it's a different conversation. And I think the part that 265 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: can't be lost in all this is the whole philosophy. 266 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: You get my twenty thirty five whatever you get my point. 267 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: The whole philosophy that the Cowboys have taken, that they're 268 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: going to go the route of having a run first offense, 269 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: and if that works, then having a guy like Zeke 270 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: makes a bunch of sense. If we find out later 271 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: that that was a bad decision to go with that 272 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: philosophy in today's NFL, where it's geared so much to 273 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: war teams being able to pass efficiently, I mean be 274 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: able to pass and needing to be able to pass 275 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: in order to win, then then it becomes a much 276 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: different conversation because now you're talking about a guy that 277 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: could have defended against the pass verse as a guy 278 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,599 Speaker 1: that is a runner primary, that is a runner, And 279 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: that change is that whole, the whole complexion that debate, 280 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: regardless of how they perform, it changes whether it was 281 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: a good decision or not. But you know, it actually 282 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: worked out better than they thought it would because to 283 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: have Dak start all those games, you needed Zeke. You know, 284 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: if Rammo's gonna probably get hurt either way, Romeo gets 285 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: hurt and you've got Jalen Ramsey, now you've got some 286 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: issues big time at the running back and the whole offense. 287 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: So I mean it probably worked out the way it 288 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: needed to. Right then, all right, well this is a 289 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: potato potato discussion, So we'll leave it at that. 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But Nick 340 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: twitted it out earlier. This is what Jerry said. Jason 341 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:21,359 Speaker 1: Garrett's absolutely the real deal. There's no fraud in Jason Garrett. 342 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: Does he have some things he could do better, of course, 343 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: but what I think is that we have an asset 344 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: that will get us to where we want to go, 345 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: which is eight championship. Initial reactions to this comment that 346 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones made. He's obviously not ready to an insane okay, 347 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: um he's not ready to make a change there. So, um, 348 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: he's gonna, you know, have that approach. He's gonna stick 349 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: by that for sure. And so you know, that's what 350 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: that's what he believes. He believes that he is not 351 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: a fraud. I mean, I don't know, I don't know 352 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: what the question was there. Um, but you know, just 353 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: to say, yeah, I mean he could do some things better, 354 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: that's fine, has the assets to win a championship. You know, 355 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: fans don't really want to hear it because they because 356 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: they ain't seen it. They don't see anything really close 357 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: to that. There's one playoff win there. So, um, but 358 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: I think why I believe it's just important is the 359 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,719 Speaker 1: last time we really heard him talking about it, he 360 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 1: said that he questioned the decision that Jason made. And 361 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: that's been a big topic of discussion this week, is 362 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: what should he have punted or not? You know, And 363 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: I just think that it's it's a you know, Garrett's 364 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: making sure that, I mean, Jerry's making sure that he's 365 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 1: gonna say all the right things when it comes to 366 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 1: backing his coach when he really didn't do that Sunday night. 367 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: Here's the fact the matter, He had two choices here. 368 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: He could either endorse his head coach or anything else. 369 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: If he no comments, if he says something that's lukewarm, 370 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: if he says, hey, he's got a lot of problems, 371 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: any of that other stuff. And now he's created a 372 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 1: whole firestor exactly, he's created a whole firestorm, not just 373 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: with the media, but now even in the locker room, 374 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: because in the locker room, players are now saying the 375 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: owner's questioning the owner is doesn't have faith in the 376 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 1: head coach, why should I. He's created a whole different things. 377 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: So in that scenario, to me, this is one of 378 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: those things where yeah, he's gonna have to take the 379 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: brunt of public backlash on this one because that's the 380 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: nature of it. But based on the two options of 381 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: what he had, this is what the owner is gonna do. 382 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about jar I'm talking any owner. 383 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: He's gonna do this most of the time unless he's 384 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,479 Speaker 1: at a point where he's like, I think we need 385 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 1: to make a move. Otherwise, the owner is gonna always 386 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 1: say I backed my head coach, he's the right man 387 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: for the job. He's you know, the owner has to 388 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: sell to the public. This is the guy that we 389 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,479 Speaker 1: need to have faith in. So he's gonna do that 390 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: every single time unless he's at a point where he's 391 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: like gotta go, and that point even when I'm sorry, 392 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: said but no one is buying. I get it, that's 393 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: maybe they shouldn't. But the point is, I'm just saying 394 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: we all have to take a step back here and realize, 395 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: like what else was he gonna say? Yeah, you're making 396 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: a different kind of comment, only creates problem, and you 397 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: need to That's who you have right now, Jason Garrett, 398 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 1: and you need to show him support. Obviously. I'm sure 399 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 1: behind doors they're not just sitting there drinking coffee or 400 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: whiskey and that laxing not to bring, not to bring 401 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: shop talk to the air, which and I get Nix's point. 402 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: I mean when the owner says something like that it's news. Yeah, 403 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: it doesn't register with me as like this huge news, 404 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: because what else is he gonna say, Like I defy. 405 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: Somebody find me an example where the owner or whoever, 406 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: before making a move win on the radio or TV 407 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 1: and was like yeah, no, um, you know, we're not 408 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 1: really feeling good about Phil Jackson, Like probably we're gonna Yeah, 409 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk and maybe he won't be the coach 410 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 1: on Monday. Like that doesn't happen. Everything's good until it's 411 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 1: not good. Hey, we'll see what happens after Jackson right, 412 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: no question, even Jerry Jones has a long and deserved 413 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: reputation for saying whatever he wants basically, but like he's 414 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: not gonna say that. Even he wouldn't say that, So 415 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: it doesn't it doesn't register with me because he doesn't 416 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: really have a choice in them. Like, that's what he 417 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: has to say, and that's what he'll keep saying until 418 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: whatever happens, whether it's this week, five years from now, whatever, 419 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 1: He'll keep saying that until he changes his mind and 420 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: he'll do But public's ready to public right right, right, 421 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: Where do you stand on Jason gart right now? Um 422 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: talk to me at six thirty Sunday Sunday. Can you 423 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:38,239 Speaker 1: imagine that you would be going crazy on it, like, 424 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 1: hey man, get a new graphic ready for a new 425 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 1: head coach. If this quote we're doing, if this, if 426 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: this quote, this public show of support is generating, you know, 427 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: a frenzy on social media. Imagine if he was like, 428 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens against the Jags, and then I'll 429 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: decide like who. So again, I don't want I don't 430 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 1: want anybody out there to think that this is excuse making, 431 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: because it's not. We're just trying to give you guys 432 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: the real on how this stuff cuts about, because I 433 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: know there's a lot of people out there saying, like, 434 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: why would he even say something? I would even think 435 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: something like that. This is why he says something like 436 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 1: that is because what else is he going to say? 437 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: And this happens a lot, not just with Jerry, it 438 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: happens with players too. You'll hear him make these comments 439 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 1: sometimes and you're like, really that player thinks that, No, 440 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: not necessarily, but what else is he gonna says? It's 441 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: kind of the best that I can say in this 442 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: moment to diffuse as much as I can. Right. The 443 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: thing about it is is that the guys on the 444 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: radio show don't ask the question. Then they get ridiculed 445 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: for it, right, they have to ask, but they ask 446 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: the question, and it's a dumb question because any anytime 447 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: you get what they people perceive to be as a 448 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: dumb answer, and you know it was probably a dumb question, 449 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: but it was one of those that had to be done. 450 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: So you have to ask, it has to be answered 451 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: this way, and then the reaction is this way. It's 452 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: kind of a weird cycle from the media there, But 453 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: I mean it's really nobody's at fault. I don't fault 454 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: the guys. No, I don't either asking the question, and 455 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 1: I don't really fault Jerry for answering that way. Now, 456 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: there's levels of over the top, but Jed, but Jerry 457 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 1: is the eternal optimist, so let's also be real about it, 458 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: like he's gonna go over the top when it comes 459 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: to that, and he's gonna go like, hey, I'm believing 460 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: this guy hit. This guy's like he's a salesman, he's 461 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: selling his guy, and we'll see if that shit change. 462 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: I remember, and Nick, I'm pretty sure this happened at 463 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: some point a couple of week a couple of weeks 464 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: before Wade was fired. Did Jerry not give him a 465 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: kind of an endorsement, Maybe not as strong as this, 466 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: because I think this is really strong, But I'm pretty 467 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: sure up until the point that he fired him, Jerry 468 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: was still like, I think Jay Wade's right guy. I 469 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 1: think Wade's fine. I don't remember him being publicly like, 470 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. We gotta we gotta get bet, we 471 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: gotta do you know, Yes, before green Bay is what 472 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 1: I'm saying, before you got to green Bay, before you 473 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 1: got to Jacksonville, because that was the week before that, right, Um, 474 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: I think so, I think it was Jacksonville. I have 475 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: to go back and see if I can pull up 476 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: some moldy archives. But but remember him being like, but 477 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: Saturday night before the green Bay game, Yeah, we were 478 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: at the bar in Appleton, Wisconsin. That's exactly what. There's 479 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: only one well, no, there's actually a lot. No, no, no, 480 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: there's a spune, there's a bunch, but there's only one 481 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: called the Bark. And we and Rob, Rob and I 482 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 1: were there and West Phillips was their offensive assistant. We're 483 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: tight ends coach maybe at the time, and so yes, 484 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: son of White. Yes, And he said, man, you know, 485 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 1: we don't win this game, Yad's probably getting fired, and 486 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: and Rob and I are kind of like, you know, 487 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: you can you know how Rob is like yeah, He's like, Um, 488 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: it's just the way it is. It's not awkward. I mean, 489 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:44,959 Speaker 1: it's just the way this is. If we don't win 490 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: this game, will be one in seven and it's national TV, 491 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: and it's probably not gonna go. Well, that's just the 492 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: way it goes. And so I think the riding was 493 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: on the wall there that didn't expect to lose forty 494 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: five to seven, which you know made it worse. So yeah, 495 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: you know, And and that's what we've always talked about 496 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: with when when you make that when you make those decisions, 497 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 1: is when you feel like you've lost the team. And 498 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, I don't think that's that's 499 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: happening right now. Well, to bring it full circle, that's 500 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: this is a spect like when things are going bad 501 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: with the team, it's the biggest it's the bit. It's 502 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: the thing that aggravates me the most is like and 503 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: and fans are well within their rights. It's like fans 504 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: want what should happen, Like, you know, Jason Garrett should 505 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: be fired, like this is our wreck, blah blah blah 506 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: blah blah. I tell you what is happening, and like 507 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: we are vilified for that, you know, And like and 508 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: I'm not excuse making for Jason Garrett. That's a whole 509 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: separate conversation. But like on October, what's today October twelfth, 510 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: yea on October twelfth, one game under five hundred five, 511 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: six weeks into the NFL season. It does not make 512 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 1: sense to fire your head coach right now like it did. 513 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: It doesn't. Nobody does that like and and you know 514 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: it's built up over years. I get it people are frustrated, 515 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: but like, just remove your your passion and your intensity 516 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: and your love for this team from the equation and 517 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: just think about, like, the season is not lost, even 518 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: if you have no faith that it is going anywhere. 519 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 1: It's it's not lost. That's going to play. That is 520 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: the reality of the situation. And then the conversation changes 521 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 1: as that changes. If the losses keep piling up, it's 522 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 1: time to have different conversations. But it's foolish that you 523 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: know your your ideas and opinions about this team built 524 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 1: up over the years, is going to impact what you're 525 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: doing right now. And I just you know, people think 526 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: I'm defending Jason Garret when I say that. No, that's 527 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: just the reality the situation. Nobody does that. George Steinburner 528 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't do that. The time for that is January well 529 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 1: or even no, mean no, what I'm saying, No, if 530 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 1: you're sitting at home in January, when the playoffs are 531 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: going on and you've had another bad season, that's the 532 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: time I think that. I don't actually think there's any 533 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: good necessarily that comes out of making a change to 534 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: the head coach in the middle of a season. I personally, 535 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: I won't even go that. I mean, the time could 536 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: be was that game in October or November? The Green 537 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: Bay game October? The time could be October. I disagree, 538 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: and I think maybe you disagree with it as well, 539 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,479 Speaker 1: because think about it like this. If you let Wade 540 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: continue to happen like that, then who's the head coach. 541 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: But the thing is is that you got an opportunity 542 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: to see what Jason Garrett was able to do. And 543 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: so maybe there might be a coach on this staff, 544 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: maybe somebody that coaches defensive pacts that you want to 545 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: be a head coach, and I'd like to see four 546 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: or five games. But here's here's where I think. Here's 547 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: where I think that could have backfired on you a 548 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: little bit. If the Cowboys made their decision based upon 549 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: what he did in the final part of that season 550 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: and said he's our guy, that means they probably didn't 551 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: do their due diligence of all the other guys that 552 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 1: were out there to figure out whether he was better 553 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 1: than all the other guys out there. That's where I 554 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: have a problem with him. Well, that's another tricky situation 555 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 1: because Jason Garrett was the head coach in waiting before 556 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 1: Wade for I get that, but I'm just saying to me, 557 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: I think that I think that if you're going to 558 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: make a change to a head coach at a major 559 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: program I'm talking about college or pro, I think you 560 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: need to take the time to not just look at 561 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 1: what's in your building, but look outside and see who 562 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: are those young guys out there or old guys I 563 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: don't want to be you know, I don't have agism 564 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: all from yourself. Just go out and find who you 565 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: think are the best guys that, given what you currently 566 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: do and what you how you want to see your 567 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: team formed, has the best credentials to be able to 568 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: take you where you want to go. And don't be 569 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: limited to just the guy that you've kind of had 570 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: pegged in your building that you think is going to 571 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: be the next up and coming guy. Now. I know 572 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,479 Speaker 1: that that probably has influenced a little bit by watching 573 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: guys like Sean Payton walked out of the door and 574 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: then end up winning a Super Bowl. I'm sure that 575 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: kind of stuff kind of makes you say, well, I 576 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: don't want to lose a guy that then go somewhere else. 577 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: But I still think you got to take the time 578 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: and do the due diligence to know that he is 579 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: the best guy. Here. Here's another question. I see a 580 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: lot of people and a lot of people, you know, 581 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: obviously wanting to fire the head coach, wanting to fire Scotland, 582 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: and him wanting to fire both of them. In reality, 583 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: let's say a few weeks down the road and with 584 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: the season kind of going how it's going right now, 585 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 1: which one would be the first move to be made 586 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: by Jerry Jones, either the offensive coordinator coach or the 587 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: head coach. Well, I mean, based off what you just said, though, 588 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 1: I don't know if you do anything, because if you 589 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: say how the season is going right now, because how 590 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: the season's going right now is a win here and 591 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: here you win all your home and you lose like okay, 592 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: with the season heading downwards, and where you're like, okay, 593 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: we need to make a bigger change. You know, if 594 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 1: if it starts to kind of get off the road. 595 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: I mean, the wheels are wobbling right now. If it 596 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: starts to get really bad here, then then yeah, I 597 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: get you. If Jerry Jones is making If Jerry Jones 598 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: is making a change, I would assume it's the tip top, right, 599 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, But I think it's one of those 600 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: things like what are you going to change? Jason? I 601 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: mean I think it's and that happens sometimes. Honestly, I 602 00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: know we laughed about it, but I mean, if I 603 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett, I'm not I'm not taking over the play 604 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: calling until like it might be a bye week thing 605 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: after the Jags play smart, well, it also might be 606 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: a bye week, so you have a lot of time 607 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: to kind of get yourself ready for it. I mean, 608 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: that's that's in fifteen. They you know, they they benched 609 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: weedon and they put McFadden in front of Randall and 610 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: they did that during the bye week. So I think 611 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: he had two more games. The worst you could be 612 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: is what two and two and five? Five? Yeah, two 613 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: and five with a division loss to the wouldn't fire 614 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: Scott Linahan. You just take over the play calling. I 615 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: don't think you'll fire the coordinator in the season, you 616 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,959 Speaker 1: probably just take the play and you don't You may 617 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: not even announce it, like I've seen that happen too. 618 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: They don't even announce it. They just kind of somebody else. 619 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: I'm announcing it. I'm Jason. He could say it in 620 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: the building. He doesn't necessarily have to announce it to 621 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: the world. I need to announce it to the world 622 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: to go to go back to my point, and you know, 623 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: or whatever. People can say, I'm defending all they want. 624 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: Like I'm not saying the Cowboys are going to get 625 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: it together and have this great season. It's not trending 626 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: that way, but they're too and three like and we've 627 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: seen these trends of like well, not not only that, 628 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: I mean again, and I think I think this is noteworthy. 629 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: Only once in his tenure as head coach has Jason 630 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: Garrett let a season completely get away to the point 631 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: where they're not competitive at the end. And that was 632 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: when he didn't have his quarterback. Like when he's had 633 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: the guys he's supposed to have, They've been there until 634 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: week sixteen, weeks seventeen. I said that on Twitter the 635 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: other day and everybody lost their mind, like, well, we're 636 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: supposed to accept mediocrity. No, that's not what I'm saying. Like, 637 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: I think we would all agree that eight and eight 638 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: and no playoffs is probably not good enough for Jason Garrett. 639 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: I mean we said that before the season, right that 640 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: to your point, that's a conversation for January. But you're 641 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: not You're not going to do this drastic. 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Definitely are Tommy John dot COM's got 702 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: the best underwear it in the world that they don't 703 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: think it. If you don't think that's true, just tray appare, 704 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: send it back, watch it first, but send it back 705 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: and they'll give you your money back. But you won't 706 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: because you'll love it and it's great. Probably John dot 707 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: com boards last Cowboys get it. Thank you. Nick. Let's 708 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: hit the inactive list and Mike White actually had I 709 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: got mine every yeah, yeah, yes, he actually did not 710 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: practice every Friday. We go to practice when we take 711 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: role and me and some of the other Beat writers 712 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 1: play the inactive game. It's always fun. But you got 713 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 1: Mike White, Dalton Schultz, Xavier Suaphilo, Joe Thomas, Sean Lee, 714 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: newly added cornerback CJ. Goodwin, and then they got a 715 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: choice to make at defensive tackle. I assume, and again 716 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: I gotta see it, but I assume David Irving's going 717 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: to be up for this game, which means K means 718 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: either Karan Read or Daniel Ross is probably suthing easy 719 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 1: to me. It has to be Karan Read, right, Yeah, 720 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,280 Speaker 1: Ross had Ross had a great game last week relative 721 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 1: to list. Yeah the good He's got a play. I 722 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: didn't say I yeah, I think I'm just I'm just 723 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 1: saying that. I think. Well, Joe Thomas is certainly sitting. 724 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,919 Speaker 1: He's wearing a boot, and I would assume Sean Lee 725 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: sits to is this Luke Casey huh, Daisy No, not 726 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:18,919 Speaker 1: a cowboy boot, like an orthopedic boot, like a Mallard Chris, 727 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: you got uh Layton vander Esh will be your starting 728 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 1: Will Jalen Smith, Mike Damien Wilson will be your starting 729 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,240 Speaker 1: Sam and will back up Mike Uh Justin March Lillard 730 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:33,280 Speaker 1: would be your backup. We will, and I think Covington 731 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: would be your backup Sam Slash. That's a lot of talent, 732 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: though a lot of talent. But I'm just saying that's yeah, 733 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: it's it's not ideal. They're put we raved about this 734 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: depth at linebacker for six months, Well let's be it's 735 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,720 Speaker 1: gonna be put to the test. Sorry, defensive back, who'd 736 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: you put out there? I put? I'm guessing Goodwin is 737 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,399 Speaker 1: down because all your corner if Cheeto can go, which 738 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,720 Speaker 1: I assume he can, all your corners will be healthy 739 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,240 Speaker 1: and new guy Darian Thompson probably needs to play special teams. 740 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: Ibrahim Campbell got cut. So this this question I didn't 741 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 1: think to ask you early this week when you gave 742 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: us a scattering port on Jacksonville's offense. But do they 743 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: tend to be in base like? Do they tend to 744 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: be in a in a formation? Do they run three 745 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: wide as their base or is this a team that 746 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 1: because they like to run the ball so much, the 747 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 1: Cowboys could find themselves in base defense, Which now affects 748 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: your linebackers a lot more as far as the numbers 749 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: than you would typically see from an NFL team. They 750 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: do eleven a lot because they like to have those 751 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 1: receivers out there. But this is a team that likes 752 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: to like they look a lot more old school than 753 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: what we've seen in the last couple of weeks, Like 754 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: they like to line up in twelve and thirteen and 755 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,479 Speaker 1: run the ball. So yeah, I would guess you're gonna 756 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: see so you're third, You're gonna probably have three linebackers 757 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 1: out there are a fair amount of time. You're probably 758 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 1: gonna have some snaps. Yeah. I think that's fair, and 759 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 1: that that becomes now becomes really interesting because you're right 760 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 1: now depth is an issue to some degree because you 761 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,879 Speaker 1: got those three guys out there more frequently versus two 762 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,439 Speaker 1: knock on wood, which, well, if they can get through this. 763 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 1: Based on his workload this week, I feel optimistic Sean 764 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: Lee will be available for the trip to Washington, but 765 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: I don't think he'll be there on Sunday. All right. Well, see, 766 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: Nick has been begging to have a longer segment on 767 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 1: about game day predictions, so apparently he has some really 768 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 1: good predictions. I guess, So what do you got for us? 769 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: I mean, can I throw one other inactive thing to 770 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 1: talk about real quick? Just we didn't talk about this 771 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 1: on the opposite side, It's kind of happened again. Jalen 772 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: Ramsey is listed as questionable for this game. So I 773 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: would be big. Yeah. I don't think there's much of 774 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: any way that he does not play in this game, right, 775 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: although he is listen, this questionable something to keep an 776 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: eye on. Cool, that's to keep you wondering about it, 777 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 1: you know, just go right early, sure, go for testing 778 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 1: with Deonte Thompson. I think this game is gonna be 779 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 1: about special teams. I think whoever has a whoever has 780 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,320 Speaker 1: a big play or bad play on special teams, Um, 781 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,320 Speaker 1: that's gonna affect this game. I think the offenses are similar. 782 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: I think the defenses are similar. I do think Jacksonville 783 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 1: is way better. But I just think that you know, 784 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 1: it's gonna come down to that. It'll be a kicking game. 785 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 1: Play might be a block punt, it might be a 786 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: you know, a play that's down inside the one yard line, 787 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: something like that. That the special teams is going to 788 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 1: probably be a difference maker in this one. That's my 789 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 1: prediction part. That's it. Yeah, um, let's score, we're doing that. 790 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: I think Dallas will win the game. I do. I 791 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 1: think they're gonna win twenty to sixteen. I think it's 792 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: not gonna explosion cud. Seriously, it's the NFL. I mean 793 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 1: I mean, I know that they play that way, but 794 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 1: it'll it. Whenever you think it's gonna be something, it's 795 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: typically not a good point. And I think you know 796 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,399 Speaker 1: they'll it'll it'll be. It'll be down to the end. 797 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: And I think Blake Bortles is not very good. I 798 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 1: don't think that offense is very good. And um, I 799 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: think the Cowboys defense are gonna have to make some place. 800 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 1: But they gotta be like Houston. They gotta make some turnovers, 801 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 1: you know, to do it. I think they will. I 802 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 1: think it'll be a fun game, and I think they're 803 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 1: gonna win it. I just I think, you know, like 804 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,800 Speaker 1: I've said all along, I'll stick with it. You really, 805 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 1: it's hard to get to eight and eight if you're 806 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: not three and three. So I think they need to 807 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,720 Speaker 1: get to three and three. Let's do it twenty sixteen. 808 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 1: W It would be the least surprising thing in the 809 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: world if the Cowboys found a way to win this game. 810 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: And surprising thing in the world is going to be 811 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 1: that guy butchering the defensive tackle's name. Yes, yes, the 812 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: guy that does the PA and the press box will 813 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 1: not be able to say Yanick. One of these days, 814 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,359 Speaker 1: one of these days, can one of you guys just 815 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 1: record like what our experience is there? Yeah, bring some 816 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 1: of that to the end. What's funny? Think it's good 817 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,399 Speaker 1: stuff for the guy next to me? What's his name? Who? 818 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,280 Speaker 1: The guy that the defensive tackle for the Jaguars, Yannick 819 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 1: and Gogway, he's an end but sorry Yannick and god 820 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 1: in Godway. Yeah, okay, you got that down just like 821 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: that seconds. What's gonna happen is is like tackle made 822 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: by yeah Yick, not go well. And then the guy 823 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 1: next to me, Todd Archer, is gonna just he's just 824 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,400 Speaker 1: been typing. He's like, no, no way. Doesn't even know 825 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 1: how to say. It's like no way. They give you 826 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: a phonetic pronunciation guide on the roster. Yeah yeah, he's 827 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 1: just he won't get Blake Bortles right, No, he won't. Um, 828 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,359 Speaker 1: it won't be surprising to me if the Cowboys find 829 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 1: a way to win. They've been better at home. Blake 830 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,839 Speaker 1: Bortles wants to give you the ball, and that's if 831 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 1: they're going to win. I think they're going to not 832 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 1: just get take away. They need to score points on defense, 833 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: like they're all Jacksonville is given up seventeen per game. 834 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 1: The Cowboys are scoring sixteen per game. If if if 835 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: conventional wisdom says you need like twenty four twenty seven 836 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 1: points to win an NFL game, you got to find 837 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 1: him somewhere, not just a scoop. No, you need the 838 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 1: score too. Yeah, I need Jim swipe and score. Um. 839 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,879 Speaker 1: I gotta see it, though. I mean, they've been better 840 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 1: at home, but this is a different beast than what 841 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 1: they've seen. I mean, Jacksonville's one hundred and ninety one 842 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 1: passing yards per game against an offense that is averaging 843 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 1: one seventy six, Like, that's not good. And nah, I 844 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: just I need to see it to believe that it's 845 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,839 Speaker 1: going to happen. I think I think twenty sixteen two, 846 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 1: but I think Jacksonville finds. I trust them to move 847 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 1: the ball against Dallas's offense way more than I trust 848 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,920 Speaker 1: the Dallas offense to be able to come up with 849 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,320 Speaker 1: enough points. I agree with you. Here's where I differ. 850 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 1: I actually think Jacksonville's offense will I'll score Dallas's offense. However, 851 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,359 Speaker 1: I think Dallas's defense does get that pick six or 852 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,880 Speaker 1: that fumble that's returned for a touchdown. I think the 853 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,279 Speaker 1: Cowboys are able to win because of the because the 854 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 1: only touchdown of the game will be scored by the 855 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 1: Cowboys defense. That would get you only touchdowns. I think, 856 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 1: I think you will be a ten six game. Wow, 857 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 1: I think the only touchdown scored in this game will 858 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 1: be by the defense. Not there going. Both of these 859 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,359 Speaker 1: offenses are gonna have a hard time moving the ball 860 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 1: against those twenty fifteen Tampa Bay style ten six will 861 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 1: be the final score of im I'm not being sarcastic. 862 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,399 Speaker 1: One of my absolute favorite games that I've covered here, 863 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,399 Speaker 1: just because it was such a s show, Like it 864 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 1: was just a nightmare? Which which game you're talking about? 865 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 1: Ten six in Tampa twenty fifteen, like the last game 866 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:09,919 Speaker 1: before Romo came back? Yeah, nightmare? Yeah the first word. Yeah, 867 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 1: we've had better first words than that. Brian and I 868 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,320 Speaker 1: are hot, We're down there. We're like, they just lost 869 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 1: that team. It was bad all the way around. What 870 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:22,279 Speaker 1: do you postgame? What do you got? Oh? No, no, 871 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,319 Speaker 1: I'm out. What do you mean you're out? You know what? 872 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 1: I start off the week really upset, and I'm like, 873 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 1: you know, I'm done. I'm done. I'm not picking them 874 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 1: to win again. And then as the week gets by, 875 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 1: like we got to Thirsty mich they pulled me back. Yeah, 876 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 1: they pulled me back in I'm like, you know what, Okay, 877 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 1: something something about it, Okay has to happen. So I 878 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 1: just have very very mixed feelings for this weekend. I 879 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be obviously a very tough battle, especially 880 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 1: between the two defenses, but I think maybe Jacksonville they 881 00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:02,800 Speaker 1: they pull it through. And I don't know, this sucks. 882 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 1: It sucks broken because my heart wants to go with 883 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,920 Speaker 1: the Cowboys right now, and then my law Jake wants 884 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 1: to go with the Jags. Trust me, Dave knows it's 885 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 1: a lot easier to be in that locker room if 886 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 1: they win. He would like for them to win for 887 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:19,399 Speaker 1: that reason too. But yep, you know, I just I'm 888 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 1: going one more time. I'm just gonna go on more. 889 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,440 Speaker 1: I just kind of well, I mean, not one more 890 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 1: time for the season, but I just feel like I'm 891 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,399 Speaker 1: just kind of convinced that this team is just right 892 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 1: there at the end. It's close. I think they're gonna 893 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 1: win it. But um, I hope you're right. I'm sorry, Nick, No, 894 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,319 Speaker 1: I'm just saying I've been I've gone back and forth 895 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,799 Speaker 1: all week too. I hope Derek's right that they get 896 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,399 Speaker 1: a defensive touchdown because it's just not something we've seen enough. 897 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,360 Speaker 1: It seems like everybody else gets them more like Byron 898 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 1: Jones had a pick six in Washington last year, and 899 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 1: before that it was probably Rulando McClain. But like they 900 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 1: just got you can get it from Like, yeah, no, 901 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 1: I don't think, but I'm gonna necessarily do that against 902 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 1: some of the other teams. I gotta see it. Though. 903 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 1: I don't think Dallas will lose a close game. I 904 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,719 Speaker 1: think though they could win a close game. I think 905 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 1: they win a close game where they get there. You 906 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,279 Speaker 1: know what's really gonna you know what's really gonna upset 907 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 1: me is You're you're gonna see the our defense get 908 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 1: an interception, get a takeaway, a turnover, and then they 909 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 1: give the ball back to Dallas and at the offense 910 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 1: and the offense doesn't do anything with it, and we 911 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 1: just see the defense. Ten six Houston when the Brown 912 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,279 Speaker 1: fumble and picked up by Lewis and they got to 913 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 1: like the fifteen, and I looked over and I was like, cool, 914 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 1: ten nine, awesome, But they actually did score town, so 915 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 1: they got to do more of that. They need takeaways. 916 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 1: All right, guys, this is all the time we have 917 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,920 Speaker 1: for today. Will check us out on Sunday and see 918 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 1: how this game turns out for the Cowboys. For Derek Eagleton, 919 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:54,880 Speaker 1: Nick Emman, David Hailman, I'm Ambar Garcia. See you guys 920 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 1: next time on Dallascotboys dot Com Radio. 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