WEBVTT - Dip Baby Dip 0:00:04.720 --> 0:00:08.600 It's time the big a q a A to b 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:11.520 a q a, which is saying to the big q 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:15.000 a Mandy, the big a q A different day to. 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:16.840 B a q a a. 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:20.600 A little reggae flavor. 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:30.640 This is my question answers. You have questions, We have 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:34.440 some answers. Although we are not your mama, your cousin. 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:36.000 We are just your internet friends. 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:39.560 So we're not your attorney, financial advisor, doctor, any of 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:40.839 those things a k a. 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:43.240 The people that you pay for advice. That's who you 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:45.480 should lean into. Which is a little bit of salt 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:49.080 on that meal, just just a little sprinkle, so see 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:52.319 your grandma, not us. Okay. 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Leave my name out, so 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:09.080 it's just going to call you Duke. 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:12.799 Duke says, how do you deal with getting a raise 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:14.840 at a job when they don't discuss it with you 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:18.799 before you find out it's happening. I'm stuck with what 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:21.919 just I'm stuck with just take what we gave you, 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:25.840 or do I have options to advocate for more? So 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:29.519 my raise is more of an oops adjustment to my 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:33.760 info being wrong, and there's systems years of service experience 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:36.239 and whatnot. I'm still up for a merit raise that 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:38.640 comes up in June, but I just found out randomly, 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:42.520 in my words, oh are bad. We have been playing 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:46.280 you all these years, and until we upgraded the system 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:49.840 and people put their own information into it, it would 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:50.960 have never been changed. 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:53.840 Duke, thank you for all y'all do black this. 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:58.240 Yes, it's a little bit confusing at the end when 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:00.200 he's trying to say as far as like the them 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:03.600 and people putting their own info into it. However, this 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:06.920 is really familiar to me. And on the one hand, 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:09.400 I'm like, oh, kudos to your company from making a 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:12.160 change when they saw that there was something amiss. But 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:15.000 I also understand how it can feel as an employee 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:18.120 to get the news that you have basically been underpaid, 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:21.200 you said, for several years at this point, which would 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:23.320 you know, I don't know how much the adjustment was 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:26.239 for you. Maybe it was a couple hundred dollars or whatnot, 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:29.280 but you can start to spiral, you know, into thinking 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:31.280 about all what you could have done with that money 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:33.200 over the years, and what it means that you haven't 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:36.960 been paid your worth and that really sucks. As far 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:40.280 as like negotiating it. They've already done that work behind 0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:43.760 the scenes, and at that point it's been decided for you, like, okay, 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:46.360 based on this new system that we've got for compensation, 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:51.600 we're going to be making compensation adjustments. And compensation adjustments 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:54.800 are basically when the company itself is saying we're either 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:58.080 underpaying this person or they're not in line with like 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:00.840 this new if they can come out with a new 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:05.680 way of describing their their pay bands or in this case, 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:08.240 it sounds like years of service play a different role 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:11.640 in you know, calculating compensation than it had in the past. 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:14.280 So they're like, we're just gonna square everybody up so 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:16.280 we're all on the same page and then we can 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:20.720 move forward from that same page. And you've seen I 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:23.520 have heard of some companies also in the wake of 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:29.280 twenty twenty doing some work to identify racial pay gaps, 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:33.239 which is entirely on the company and the people working 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:36.440 behind the scenes at that company to find out because 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:40.520 if you have been employed, you you know, got hired recently, 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:44.120 they don't ask you for your racial information. So it's 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:47.000 really people because or their your ethnicity. It's like not 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:49.440 required of a company to track that kind of thing 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:53.440 unless they really want to. So companies or gender for 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:55.680 that matter as well. So companies have to go out 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:58.960 of their way to try and see, Okay, where are 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:02.360 their pay discrepancies? And then if there are pay discrepancies, 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:03.000 what are we going to. 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:03.400 Do about it? 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:05.480 So on the one hand, like I said, like I'm 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:09.200 glad that they did this work, can you negotiate it 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:11.680 at that point? No, because you don't have any of 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:14.720 the information. The best you can do is with this 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:18.679 experience is think about, Okay, well, I definitely can't trust 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:20.520 these moiles moos. 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:21.719 That's a keep. 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:24.360 Track of what I'm worth and what I should be 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:26.800 getting paid. So I'm going to make it my business 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:30.520 to stay in the loop, like be you know, stay 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:33.040 in a space where you can understand what your value 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:35.719 is in the marketplace. By that, I mean take job 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:39.799 interviews and see what other companies are off offering. Regularly 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:42.880 scout for job openings that are similar to the role 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:45.599 that you have, and especially in states where they actually 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:47.920 list the salaries. Now you can see if you're being 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:52.039 paid on par with what those salary bands. Are. Find 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:56.400 some you know, some trusted colleagues, peers in your space, 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:58.960 and find a safe way for y'all to talk about 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:01.280 your salaries. You know, be careful of who you speak to, 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:04.720 but you definitely can build relationships with folks who will 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:07.800 be candid about what they're paid, and so you can 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:11.280 stay in the know about your own value because this 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:13.520 has shown you that when you leave it up to 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:19.040 a company and human beings who are biased and have 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:22.200 busy careers of their own, and things can slip through 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:25.080 the cracks. No one's going to care about your worth 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:28.120 and getting and paying you equitably. No one's going to 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:30.400 cary about that more than you do. 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:33.240 Hey, be a fan. We're going to take a quick 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:35.200 break and we'll be right back. 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:40.880 That being said, you're you know, you found out that 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:44.200 you're up for the standard mayor increase in June. That's 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:46.719 all very cute, but that doesn't mean that you still 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:50.080 can't negotiate more on top of that. So I would definitely, 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:55.160 you know, start doing your research, start putting together your 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:57.360 own idea of what your value is based on years 0:06:57.360 --> 0:06:59.360 of service and all of that. And if you want 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:01.560 to ask for an additional raise, I would do that 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:07.400 ahead of that June review cycle, and it can't hurt honestly, 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:10.560 but to have the strongest case for a raise in 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:12.960 June or even before that, you want to be out 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:17.720 there now it's March. Start hitting the job applications online. Now, start, 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:21.720 you know, letting people know that you're interested in different opportunities, 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:24.680 because if you have a real offer, or even the 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:27.680 idea of an offer on the table, that's going to 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:31.160 give you some real leverage. And it's just way more 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:33.520 likely that the company's actually going to give you that 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:37.640 increase if they think they stand to lose you, which 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:39.520 if you don't have another job offer, they're kind of like, 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:43.800 we just gave Duke a pay adjustment. He's fine, he's 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:46.840 not going anywhere, So maybe if we're to lose you, 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:50.119 so he's been underpaid, say like it's just four years 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:52.080 and it was two hundred bucks a month, should he 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:53.400 get all that back money. 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:54.360 The debbie he makes. 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:57.520 That's really on the company, I think. But I also 0:07:57.600 --> 0:07:59.960 think that if they haven't offered that, and thanks for asking, 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:03.640 because that's a piece that I believe, like for you, 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:06.160 for example, I would ask them for more details on 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:09.760 like what is it about my pay that, how did 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:11.440 you guys adjust it? And then if it's based on 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:14.280 years of service, Like, so, how long has it been 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:16.200 that I have been underpaid? And can we get a 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:20.640 lump some you know, bonus of some kind a bonus 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:23.400 that doesn't that you know, can that's going to hit 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:26.360 your account and after taxes be as much as you were, 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:29.160 you know, be as much as you were. Granted, that's 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:32.240 called like what's it called truing up or I forget 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:32.800 what that word is. 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:34.079 There's a word for it. 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:37.600 They can basically, so let's say in total, you were 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:40.160 underpaid by one thousand dollars, So instead of just giving 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:41.920 you a bonus for one thousand dollars which will be 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:45.040 taxed at your regular tax rate, they would do it 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:47.160 like let's say your tax rate is twenty percent, so 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:49.240 they would give you like a twelve hundred dollars bonus 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:51.760 so the taxes can come out and you know, you're 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:56.079 left with about you're about made whole made even. Yeah, 0:08:56.120 --> 0:08:59.160 I think that's worth looking into. And I mean, I 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:00.280 don't know what the lead goal. 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:04.439 I don't know if there's like a legal standing like 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:06.280 if I was underpaid, Like what does that mean? 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:09.040 I mean, at the end of the day, unless you 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:11.840 could prove that they discriminated against you and that's why 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:15.240 you were underpaid, then I'm not sure. And that's really 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:17.640 hard to prove that because you're a woman, or because 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:19.800 you're a person of color, we paid you less. You 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:21.599 need to have a lot more information. You need to 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:23.880 have information about what every other person at the company 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:26.520 your role was making and compare it. So it's a 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:30.000 real high what's that expression in law, So it's a 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:33.439 high bar. It's a high bar. 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:36.559 But even if it wasn't because of color or gender 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:39.320 or whatever, if they just they admitted, hey, we've been 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:42.480 underpaying you, like for what your role was, Listen, they 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:43.120 can justify. 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:45.800 Companies can come up with so much justification from why 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:49.520 they're paying somebody. Well, you know this person came from 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:52.280 a higher price point from another company. They were hired 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:54.360 in the past year. You've been here for seven years, 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:57.120 and you know they keep giving you these merit increases. 0:09:57.240 --> 0:09:59.719 This is another example of why being loyal to a 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:02.079 comeany for a long time can actually leave you in 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:05.120 a space where you're underpaid compared to the market, because 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:07.719 you may be getting these merit increases but not the 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:11.679 big compensation increases that you would have had had you 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:13.599 had to go into the open market and people have 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:15.800 been on you and you know, give you a higher pay. 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:19.000 So yeah, there's a bunch of ways, and they're not 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:21.559 all like I've said this before, but like as a 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:24.640 hiring manager myself, I had ended up with people on 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:28.280 my team who were doing similar work, very similar work, 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:32.440 and being paid differently. And I had to even sit 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:34.760 with myself like how could I let this happen? And 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:37.960 a lot of the times it's not because we are malicious, 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:41.920 evil people. It is because time goes on. You forget, 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:45.160 the market changes. Someone comes in and a certain budget 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:47.400 was the way it was when they were hired, and 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:51.200 then the economy changes, the business change, the business plan changes, 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:53.120 you get less of a budget the next time around, 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:56.920 and it's like there's all these different tugs and pool polls. 0:10:58.440 --> 0:10:59.240 I don't know what that means. 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:01.679 There's always yeah, I know, maybe sort of tugging on 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:05.079 the money the purse strings, you know. But again, that 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:08.559 is why it's on you, the employee, anyone who's working 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:11.480 to really advocate for yourself and make sure that you 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:13.400 know you're not falling through the cracks. And that's very 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:16.240 unlikely that you're going to end up in a situation 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:22.280 where you're being undervalued compared to the market. And yeah, 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:24.880 just a really good example, Duke of you need to 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:28.040 be keeping your keeping out there, keeping your eyes open 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:32.120 to the market, staying open to job interviews, don't get 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:34.079 too complacent, and at the end of the day, don't 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:37.079 trust anyone else to care more about paying you fairly 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:37.520 than you do. 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:43.240 Zoo, Well, we're going to take a breaky break, We're 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:45.600 gonna come back. Oh before we take a break, though, 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:47.839 I'm gonna do it like because the next question the 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:49.280 person made it very clear they don't want to hear 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:49.640 from me, So. 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:53.400 Hi, I am going to give a little. 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:57.240 Advice myself this in meantime because if you because I 0:11:57.280 --> 0:12:00.839 know this is a career segment, but and if you 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:02.839 watch her, if you listen to our Wednesday show, I 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:06.319 made an admission that I am really intimidated about active investing. 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:07.920 I invest passively, have her. 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:11.040 Retirement account and investment accounts, but just kind of like 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:14.320 set it and forget it, which is much better than 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:17.679 nothing and actually has a really pretty solid strategy. But 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:21.080 I've always wanted to learn how to actively invest my dad. 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:22.760 I used to watch my dad do it and I 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:24.679 kind of just felt like it's it's too hard for 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:26.920 me despite all the hard things I've learned how to do. 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:30.120 So I told myself, this is the year the excuse stops. 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:33.480 And so I reached out to my friend Terry I'm 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:36.640 and asked her if she would coach me. Terry might 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:39.440 know her from trade and travel. She is She had 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:43.079 the number one not just investing class number one course 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:46.280 on teachable period for like two or three years in 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:50.800 a row. She has taught thousands of students how to invest. 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:52.880 And what I love about Terry is that she's actually 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:55.839 an educator. She actually was a either assistant principal or 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:57.679 principal for a number of years. She went to MIT. 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:01.319 Just really smart. She was like an assistant principal for 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:03.199 a number of years. I didn't know yeah before she 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:06.480 started her business. So Terry's just really smart and just 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:08.959 to really when I look for someone to help me, 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:11.200 I look for people who not just know the knowledge, 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:13.880 but can show you the knowledge like through teaching, like 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:16.160 know how to actually teach because I'm a teaching snob. 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:17.320 Since you I wanted to teach. 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:20.079 So anyway, I asked Terry to teach me, and she 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:22.920 was like I can do that. But also just so 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:24.760 you know, in April she was told me this maybe 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:28.120 in February, that I have a five day challenge that 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:31.400 you should join but also participate like speak at And 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:33.400 I was like, well, I can speak because I'm not 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:36.920 an active trader, and she said no, that she's having 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:40.120 like guest speakers come on to talk about how what 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:41.920 does it look like to prepare to invest? So I'm 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:43.920 actually going to be talking about how to budget and 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:46.880 save money so you have money to invest. But Terry's 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:49.719 doing this five day challenge. Day one is like what 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:52.880 is the stock market? So it's really for beginners. Day two, 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:54.040 what are index funds? 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:54.520 Day three? 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:57.480 How what is a brokerage account? How to open one 0:13:57.520 --> 0:13:59.120 so we can actively open one. This is where a 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:02.640 lot of people get hung up. Day four is how 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:04.280 to buy a stock. You'll be able to buy a 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:06.480 stock alive with her. In day five how to sell 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:09.439 a stock. So it's really taking your first trade to 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:12.400 break through to say like I can do this thing. 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:15.120 And of course she has other things that she teaches, 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:16.600 like more in depth, like she has like an eight 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:18.040 week course or whatever, but that's not what this is. 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:21.280 This is just a five day I want to get started, 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:23.320 and so this is what I'm starting with. So I 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:25.840 am speaking about budgeting and saving and getting ready, but 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:28.800 I am an actual student, like taking the class. So 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:30.560 if you want to do this challenge along with me, 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:33.880 Terry gave me like a special links. It'll be in 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:38.080 the description show notes trade and Travel dot com slash 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:41.280 the Budgeonista. Let's trade and Travel dot com slash to Budganista. 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:43.760 It's happening in April, I think, what was it? 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:47.400 Mandy was like the fifteenth to the nineteen nineteen. 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:51.840 Yes, and it's from seven to nine pm Central time 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:53.920 from fifteen to the nineteenth that you'll be able to 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:56.120 like watch and take class with us. So it should 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:58.520 be a good time. And so if you are a 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:01.040 beginner like me, a little service, but know that you 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:03.120 have the capability and you actually want like a teacher 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:05.680 to teach you. This is my coach and so I 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:09.400 get to share her with you. Trading travel dot com 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:11.920 slash Buchanista in the show notes. So we're gonna take 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:13.640 our break and come right back because we have another 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:15.040 question from Mandy. 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:16.080 Or whatever. 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:19.360 Wistener and doesn't know what she started. 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:20.680 I'll just tease it. 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:32.400 And we are back ba fal So this listener is TMI. Wait, 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:35.720 do you see the not so subtle shade? I ain't imagine, TMI, 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:36.560 because I'm not gonna lie. 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:40.320 This is a Mandy question. She says, Hey, Mandy and Tiffany, 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:43.200 I love you both, but this is a Mandy question. 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:47.840 I love that though, honestly I do so. 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:51.240 TMI says, I got offered an amazing position at a 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:55.240 new company, making twenty k more a year from my 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:55.840 current position. 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:58.840 That's amazing. Should I tell my current employer the reason 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:02.360 I'm leaving? Or should I just put in my two 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:05.360 weeks and dip? Oh, yes, that's right, dip baby, dick, 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:07.840 coy baby, dip. 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:11.720 Come on now, I love us. What a great like 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:15.400 a great question to put alongside the question from Duke 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:18.640 in the first half of the show, because you're seeing 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:21.440 what can happen, Duke, if you are out there in 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:24.880 the job market like she's about to go, I'm saying. 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:27.440 Twenty K raise. 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:30.160 They're never going to give you that kind of raise 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:33.400 internally at the come unless you are like blackmailing them 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:36.880 for some reason, like you have some proof of evidence 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:39.720 that your CEO is up to no good whatever. You 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:42.440 can get this kind of raise by quitting your way rich, 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:45.040 like I talk about all the time. But this is 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:47.880 a very simple question. So that obviously twenty k more. 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:51.440 I mean, come on, that's you know, reason enough to leave. 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:53.880 But I hope also it gives you, like the step 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:55.560 in your career that you want and you're going to 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:58.520 work for a great team and all that. But asking 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:00.480 you know, should you tell your current and floyer the 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:03.080 reason you're leaving? I mean, that's really up to you. 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:06.359 My biggest my question for you would be do you 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:08.560 have any interest in staying if they were to match 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:12.080 your offer? And if the answer is hell, no, even 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:14.280 if they give me twenty k as well, I don't 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:17.359 want to stay here anymore, then you could let them know. 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:19.160 You know, at the end of the day, it came 0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:23.760 down to the compensation, but also you know, wanting to 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:27.240 leave for X, Y and Z reasons. But it's really 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:30.360 like do you care enough? Because that information is only 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:34.840 going to benefit them if they care to listen to it. 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:38.480 But there's not really a lot to be gained on 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:41.960 your end from telling them why you're going to be leaving. Okay, 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:45.200 It's also like you've heard of exit interviews right to 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:48.520 but just this is a mandy question, so you know, 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:52.800 just trying to like keep you in the loop, but 0:17:52.920 --> 0:18:04.680 like also just the movies, noodle budget what. But the 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:07.320 exit interview is another thing I get asked about a lot, 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:09.080 like should I really lay it all out in the 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:13.159 exit interview? And I always say, like, h at the 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:14.639 end of the day, if it's going to make you 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:17.640 feel lighter to get that off your chest, Okay, it's 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:20.520 really in the company's interest to get that kind of feedback, 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:22.800 But it's not the time to settle a score or 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:25.359 air your major a grievances because it's going to be 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:28.480 delivered to an HR person and they may just you know, 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:31.639 take the proverbial you know, piece of paper, ball it 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:33.320 up and throw it in the trash and say, Kobe, 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:36.000 you know what I mean, Like your brant may never 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:39.240 go anywhere. So yeah, it's up to you. If you 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:42.240 want to tell them, then fine. But you can absolutely 0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:46.840 ask your manager for a meeting and say, you know, 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:49.720 I've had such a great experience working on this team. 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:52.360 I've loved getting to contribute and do X blah blah 0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:55.640 blah blah blah. But I've decided to take another opportunity 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:58.879 at a different company. There's nothing that requires you to 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:01.800 say what company you're going to, especially if you think 0:19:01.840 --> 0:19:03.639 you have a non compete agreement and you're and you 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:06.200 should check. Like, you don't need to say what company 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:07.879 you're going to. You don't need to give any kind 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:09.600 of details, just say, you know, I'm going to keep 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:12.439 it private for now, but I'm going to be leaving 0:19:12.720 --> 0:19:15.080 and I'm happy to put in, uh, you know, do 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:17.680 a two week notice so that you know, you guys 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:19.760 are not left in a bind. And then you can 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:20.600 just shut your face. 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:27.600 And that's going to be the name the podcast this episode, 0:19:27.640 --> 0:19:28.320 Did Baby Dip? 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:29.920 Did Baby Dip? 0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:33.959 To the lay to the Right? 0:19:36.600 --> 0:19:38.119 I love that. I love that. 0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:40.159