Speaker 1: You're checking out the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2: Morning.
Speaker 3: Everybody is DJ env Jesse Larius, Charlamagne, the guy we
Speaker 3: are the Breakfast Club. Lola Rosa is with us as well,
Speaker 3: and we have a special guest on the line. The legend,
Speaker 3: the icon, the reason that we do what we do.
Speaker 1: The h and every morning was especially me. We have
Speaker 1: Wendy Williams on the line.
Speaker 4: Good morning, Wenday, Morning, Hi everybody.
Speaker 5: Hi Charlemagne, he's.
Speaker 2: Wendy, and Whendy's niece Alex is on as well. Alex,
Speaker 2: you're gonna be talking to right, Hey, Alex.
Speaker 5: That's why Alex, That's why these Alex and Charlemagne and I,
Speaker 5: by the way, have known each other for like twenty
Speaker 5: years and running.
Speaker 2: That is very true. Wow, Listen, Wendy, let's get right
Speaker 2: to it. I'm gonna tell everybody what's going on. Wendy
Speaker 2: Williams is currently trapped in a conservativeship. If you don't
Speaker 2: know what the conservatives ship business. When someone is in
Speaker 2: charge of making decisions on your behalf, and usually because
Speaker 2: the conservative is not able to make decisions for themselves,
Speaker 2: Wendy can make her own decisions. She is not cognitively impaired.
Speaker 2: She is not incapacitated. She is being taken advantage of. Right, Wendy,
Speaker 2: tell us what's going on.
Speaker 5: Well, first of all, to start with my niece, Alex
Speaker 5: knows a lot as well, you know. But I am
Speaker 5: not cognitively impaired. You know what I'm saying. No, but
Speaker 5: I feel like I am in prison. You understand what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. I feel like like this, like like I'm
Speaker 5: in New York City, right and by the way, my
Speaker 5: apartment has been sold, thank god, you know, a while ago.
Speaker 5: But I you know, I'm in this place where the
Speaker 5: people are in their nineties and their eighties and their seventies,
Speaker 5: and even when people are sixty like me, Hey, I'm
Speaker 5: sexy and gorgeous. You know, I am sixty. I look look,
Speaker 5: look please July eighteenth, nineteen sixty four. Honey, Well look
Speaker 5: these people. I don't care if they're fifty and sixty
Speaker 5: they have like Look, there's something wrong with these people
Speaker 5: here on this floor. You understand what I'm saying. And
Speaker 5: I'm not saying something bad. I'm just saying that I
Speaker 5: am with these people. I am clearly not Look, I
Speaker 5: have breakfast, luncheon, dinner right here on the bed. All right,
Speaker 5: I watch TV, I listen to radio, I look at
Speaker 5: the window. I talk on the phone. And by the way, Alex,
Speaker 5: talk about this phone. Please, you've been right here where
Speaker 5: I am, so you know exactly what you're talking about.
Speaker 5: You flew from Miami to New York and you were
Speaker 5: right here with me.
Speaker 6: Go ahead, yeah, And you know what she's saying is
Speaker 6: exactly what's happened. She's there in New York in this
Speaker 6: place essentially like what to call a luxury prison. Right,
Speaker 6: this is her room. That's aely her apartment. But the
Speaker 6: thing about this apartment, and you know this not oney,
Speaker 6: because you're there.
Speaker 7: It's small.
Speaker 6: She has a bed, a chair, a TV, a bathroom,
Speaker 6: and she's looking out one window of buildings across the street.
Speaker 5: That excuse me, excuse me and excuse me through my money.
Speaker 5: You know, I had this person by the TV. You
Speaker 5: know the kind of TV. I like, a large TV.
Speaker 5: You understand what I'm saying through this person because all
Speaker 5: of my stuff is in storage. Understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Everything's in storage. And by the way, that was to
Speaker 5: sell my apartment.
Speaker 2: But anyway, is the person your guardian is that who
Speaker 2: you're referring to your guardian. Yes, well you know Sabrina
Speaker 2: Morrissey is her name, and right now, any network, well
Speaker 2: if any network and Lifetime were sued by Sabrina. She claims,
Speaker 2: they exploited you in a vulnerable state. They exploited your condition.
Speaker 2: And I'm putting condition in air quotes. You signed to
Speaker 2: do that documentary without your consent. But any and Lifetime
Speaker 2: counter sued and said that Sabrina realized that documentary would
Speaker 2: question the quality of her own guardianship. It actually says
Speaker 2: in the lawsuit it appears that Morrissey is misusing her
Speaker 2: position as a guardian of Williams the silence criticism of
Speaker 2: her controversial and failed administration of the guardianship. They even
Speaker 2: used the words guardianship abuse. What do you think of that?
Speaker 5: Well, first of all, you know, me and the person
Speaker 5: that you were just talking about as a guardian person,
Speaker 5: we watched that four part thing on TV together. She
Speaker 5: was the one who wanted to do that, you understand
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. So I'm watching and writing things down,
Speaker 5: and she's watching and writing things down, and I saw
Speaker 5: her or I saw all of that, by the way,
Speaker 5: and and and what do I think about being abused. Listen, Look,
Speaker 5: this system is broken. You know that, this system that
Speaker 5: I'm in, You know this system has falsified a lot.
Speaker 2: You know I said, you're cognitively impaired and you're incapacitated.
Speaker 5: Do I see that way?
Speaker 2: You've been calling me five times a day for the
Speaker 2: last two weeks.
Speaker 1: No, you don't, how Ary?
Speaker 5: How there? Excuse me? Who I naturally am is who
Speaker 5: I naturally am? You know what I'm saying, right, and
Speaker 5: and and my niece knows all about that crap. I'm sorry, apologizes.
Speaker 3: To be clear, you can't leave like they won't allow
Speaker 3: you to leave or have visitors family members. And now
Speaker 3: so you can't even leave and take a walk if
Speaker 3: you wanted to, or take a trip or visit family members.
Speaker 3: They give you a difficult time for that. And family
Speaker 3: members can't visit you.
Speaker 5: Where I am. Okay, you have to get keys to
Speaker 5: unlock the door, to press the elevator to go downstairs,
Speaker 5: first of all. Second of all, these people here, everybody
Speaker 5: is like nurse maids, so to speak. You know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. They come in and they give your pills,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, And then they leave and
Speaker 5: I told you.
Speaker 1: Not to take I told you don't take them pills.
Speaker 5: Excuse me. I've had two pills all of my life. Alex.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm talking about. You know what I'm
Speaker 5: saying talking about. There are seven pills. I have no
Speaker 5: idea what is this pill doing? What is it going to? Listen,
Speaker 5: I haven't been to a pill person in a matter
Speaker 5: of long time, you know what I'm saying, to the
Speaker 5: point where, excuse me, doctor, can you tell me what
Speaker 5: this pill is for? Excuse me, doctor? What pill? Do
Speaker 5: you you understand what I'm saying. Look for the last
Speaker 5: three year, I have been caught up in the system.
Speaker 5: This has been three years. I'm caught up in the system. Alex,
Speaker 5: go talk talk Alex.
Speaker 6: Oh, I mean for three years. This is the reality.
Speaker 6: This has been our lives. So but specifically her life.
Speaker 6: She can call us, we can't call her. That's been
Speaker 6: the reality since twenty twenty three. That room that she's
Speaker 6: sitting in, that room that she's sitting in, she's there
Speaker 6: every day, all hours of the day, every week, every month.
Speaker 7: She's not getting proper sunlight. I went to New York.
Speaker 6: In October to visit her, and the level of security
Speaker 6: and the level of questions that there were in terms
Speaker 6: of who am I, why am I here, what's the purpose?
Speaker 6: I mean, it was absolutely just horrible.
Speaker 2: You know, Alex. We sent Lauren Lroossa, who works here
Speaker 2: on the Breakfast Club. You know, I connected her with
Speaker 2: Wendy a couple of days ago. Lauren went up there
Speaker 2: yesterday and tell them what happened.
Speaker 1: Laura.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I was gonna ask you, Alex, what was it
Speaker 8: like this for you? When I got there, the people
Speaker 8: at the front were very aware that Wendy was there.
Speaker 8: They had me sign in, her name was in the system.
Speaker 8: They had to call Sabrina to even see if I
Speaker 8: could go up there, even though Wendy was on the
Speaker 8: phone with me when I arrived, and she let them know, Hey,
Speaker 8: this is my guest. I want to see her. I'll
Speaker 8: even come down. Please have someone bring me down, because
Speaker 8: as she said, she can't get in the elevator nor
Speaker 8: leave her room without them unlocking things for her. They
Speaker 8: were aware of that, and everything was fine, and I
Speaker 8: was waiting it. Called Sabrina a couple of times, and
Speaker 8: she didn't answer the phone when they called, and then
Speaker 8: all of a sudden, things just like flipped. These like
Speaker 8: men came out and they're like, who are you and
Speaker 8: what are you here for? I told them who I was.
Speaker 8: I told them I was there to see Wendy. They said,
Speaker 8: you don't have anyone here by that name.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 8: They never said to me, no, I didn't make did
Speaker 8: not make it upstairs. They basically told me. I didn't
Speaker 8: even feel comfortable still being in the lobby. The way
Speaker 8: that I was cheated like it was insane, especially being
Speaker 8: as though Wendy was on the phone with me when
Speaker 8: I walked in, and she spoke to the concierge herself
Speaker 8: and said, I want to see this person. She is
Speaker 8: here for me. And then these people are like, she's
Speaker 8: not even here, what are you talking about? And I'm like,
Speaker 8: I dealt with your colleagues that had me.
Speaker 1: Sign in for her.
Speaker 8: She's in your system, so you're gonna tell me she's
Speaker 8: not here? Or did you speak to Sabrina as well,
Speaker 8: because they said that was protocol. You have to call
Speaker 8: Sabrina first. We don't know Sabrina and we don't know Wendy.
Speaker 8: She's not here. They said that to me multiple times. Scary, scary, scary.
Speaker 1: Did you feel like she was in a safe space.
Speaker 8: Oh, I feel like if you're dealing with me like
Speaker 8: that and she's on the phone with you're telling you like,
Speaker 8: this is you know what I mean? I want to
Speaker 8: see her. This is my people, God forbid something happens
Speaker 8: to her and her family needs to get to fight.
Speaker 8: And I asked Wendy that after as I was walking out,
Speaker 8: I'm like, yo, man, like I've dealt with my mom
Speaker 8: and my grandmother went through medical stuff and a bunch
Speaker 8: of stuff. Right, I can't imagine I've been able to
Speaker 8: get to them see my mother, right, I said, this
Speaker 8: is when your family comes.
Speaker 3: And when he's like, yes, we got more with Wendy
Speaker 3: Williams when we come back, don't move.
Speaker 1: It's the breakfast club.
Speaker 3: Good morning, Good morning everybody at cej.
Speaker 4: NV Jess hilarious, Charlamagne the God.
Speaker 3: We are the breakfast Club. Law on the roaster's head
Speaker 3: with us this morning. We're still kicking it with Wendy
Speaker 3: Williams and her niece Alex Charlomagne.
Speaker 2: You know, denying you visitation is a legal Wendy, Alex,
Speaker 2: how do you feel about that?
Speaker 1: As her niece?
Speaker 7: Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 6: When I went to visit her when and you know this,
Speaker 6: I was able to get up there.
Speaker 7: It was not a problem. But here's the.
Speaker 6: Thing is that Serrina, you know, wasn't communicative and that's
Speaker 6: her guardian wasn't communicative with me. It was almost as
Speaker 6: if she was waiting for the other shoe to drop
Speaker 6: so she could have a get you moment. When it
Speaker 6: comes with me the family and how we move about things.
Speaker 6: I mean, for someone that was you know, is so
Speaker 6: up in arms in terms of she can't be seen,
Speaker 6: there was no security for her. There was there was
Speaker 6: no you know, layout in terms of a plan how
Speaker 6: this is supposed to work. I mean, thank god, you
Speaker 6: know what I mean. I knew pretty what to do,
Speaker 6: you know, and the trip was fine. But this trip,
Speaker 6: unfortunately came off the heels of in July with my
Speaker 6: aunt's birthday, where I was supposed to go up there
Speaker 6: and spend her birthday with her, you know, and all
Speaker 6: of a sudden there was a lockdown on that.
Speaker 7: And not only was on that in terms of me visiting,
Speaker 7: but with you on Wendy, with being able to do
Speaker 7: what you want to do for your birthday. Go ahead.
Speaker 5: Yeah. No. For the last three years I've spent my
Speaker 5: birthday by myself. You know what I'm saying, which which
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, That's fine, that's fine, just
Speaker 5: because I would rather spend birth by by myself than
Speaker 5: open the door and spend my birthday with these people
Speaker 5: on this floor. Like like, look, this is what is
Speaker 5: called emotional abuse. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: You know I would call a guardianship abuse as well.
Speaker 2: And you know you talked about it a little bit
Speaker 2: when you saw the documentary. What did you think when
Speaker 2: you saw the documentary? Because that's what I got everybody,
Speaker 2: at least the general public concern.
Speaker 1: What did you think of that?
Speaker 5: You know what? What I thought about?
Speaker 1: That?
Speaker 5: Was that something that uh, well, first of all, I
Speaker 5: don't want to see I don't want to watch that
Speaker 5: again until I get to Miami, until I get you know,
Speaker 5: my life. Look, I don't care about watching that. You
Speaker 5: know what I care about I care about Look, I
Speaker 5: don't want to talk about that.
Speaker 1: I will, but I do want to ask Alex. He was, well,
Speaker 1: so what.
Speaker 2: You say, Windy can't say a lot legally correct. So
Speaker 2: don't think that, you know when you hear her, I
Speaker 2: don't think she's jumping around. She don't know what you're
Speaker 2: talking about. Yeah, she can't say a lot legally.
Speaker 3: And I was going to ask who's putting out like
Speaker 3: the rumors, like, you know, because a couple of months
Speaker 3: ago we heard, well, Wendy's having this problem and she's incapacitated,
Speaker 3: like he.
Speaker 2: Said, she's cognitively impaired because of alcohol. She's incapacitated, she's
Speaker 2: suffering from from dimension.
Speaker 4: Obviously it's not true.
Speaker 3: So do we know who's sending out those rumors to
Speaker 3: the press and to the blogs and all that.
Speaker 1: Do we know?
Speaker 4: Do we have any ideas?
Speaker 6: I mean, allegedly from what we're able to see, all
Speaker 6: of this comes from the Guardian, yep, in terms of, hey,
Speaker 6: she's incapacitated, all that.
Speaker 7: That's that's allegedly all all the Guardian.
Speaker 6: I'm only just saying allegedly just you know, obviously to
Speaker 6: protect all sides.
Speaker 3: But of course, yeah, because obviously it's not true. And
Speaker 3: the sad thing about it, it gives her the ability
Speaker 3: to keep doing this because we all feel like, oh,
Speaker 3: if that's the case, then yeah. But listening to Wendy
Speaker 3: speak and seeing Wendy a couple of weeks ago at
Speaker 3: her son's graduation, you understand that that's.
Speaker 1: Not the truth.
Speaker 5: Listen, listen. As much as I want my phone, she
Speaker 5: can't let me have my phone. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: Like like I can call you, but you can't call me.
Speaker 5: You understand what I'm saying. I don't even know what
Speaker 5: kind of phone this is that I have. All I'm
Speaker 5: saying is that when I call you, you listen, if
Speaker 5: you don't call me back, you can't call me back.
Speaker 5: You understand what I'm saying. I can't. I can't sit
Speaker 5: on the phone, you know, and look at things. You
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, and scroll through things. I can't
Speaker 5: do that. I do not have a laptop. You understand.
Speaker 5: I don't have an iPad. My life is My life
Speaker 5: is my goddamn life. You understand.
Speaker 1: How does this? How does this happen? Though, Wendy? How
Speaker 1: does this happen? Alex?
Speaker 2: How does she end up in a guardianship where you know,
Speaker 2: these people have so much control of her life? Because
Speaker 2: it's not like she does not have family. She has.
Speaker 2: She has her son Kevin Hunter and Jr. Like she
Speaker 2: has family, So how does this happen?
Speaker 5: Go ahead? No, I was going to say, you know
Speaker 5: what my life, you know, And Charlotmagne you know about
Speaker 5: my life. You know what I'm saying to get the was,
Speaker 5: as far as I'm concerned, was a one hundred percent
Speaker 5: fabulous thing. You know. I'm just saying. When I got divorced. Look,
Speaker 5: I had this lawyer. I don't even want to say
Speaker 5: her beautiful name, because I just because it was so great.
Speaker 5: I've gotten a divorce like nobody else has gotten in forced,
Speaker 5: and I don't want to talk about it. But Alex,
Speaker 5: you know about that. And Charlemagne, Charlemagne, did I even
Speaker 5: tell you about my divorce?
Speaker 1: You did? And I don't want to know nothing. I
Speaker 1: don't know anything, right, ruin me several times already, you know.
Speaker 5: No, no, look look it's bigger than that. But look
Speaker 5: look look look when I Okay, when I got divorced,
Speaker 5: You're right right, I moved to New York, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, As opposed to in New Jersey, I
Speaker 5: was solo, just me and my cats. You know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. I got these two twin cats who, by
Speaker 5: the way, my cats have been sold to. And I
Speaker 5: had no idea until I talked to that person last yesterday.
Speaker 5: You know saying, and she told me that my look,
Speaker 5: I no longer have my cat anyway. Look listen, I'm
Speaker 5: in New York, I'm solo. I'm still doing my show
Speaker 5: on TV right and I'm still doing my show. But
Speaker 5: I'm still saying okay because to me, you know, being
Speaker 5: on TV was you know, for me. You know, I'm
Speaker 5: not gonna lie that that was about money. Radio is
Speaker 5: my route. You understand what I'm saying. To be on
Speaker 5: radio to me is like God sent to me, and
Speaker 5: I was doing such great stuff back in the day.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, that's an understatement talking about.
Speaker 8: Just sit here right now, just hilarious? Is here me
Speaker 8: and Jesse sitting here right now, Wendy, just like you're
Speaker 8: going to figure out what how you doing when it
Speaker 8: is just hilarious? How you doing, Alex? What do you
Speaker 8: want people who are listening to do?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 1: Do you want us to tweet?
Speaker 4: Do you want like? How can we because of you?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: All right, all right? Too many people are talking at
Speaker 5: one time. One person, Paul my phone is like.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, ma'am, this is just hilarious. How you doing,
Speaker 4: miss Wendy.
Speaker 1: I wanted to know what you want people who are
Speaker 1: listening to do. What do you want us to do?
Speaker 4: Should we tweet? Should we get online?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 1: How how do you what do you want us to do?
Speaker 4: Also, Alex, what do you want?
Speaker 6: Well, we've talked about this and that is there's the
Speaker 6: hashtag free Wendy.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 6: There's also a change dot org petition as well, and
Speaker 6: also just just making as much noise as possible, you know, potentially,
Speaker 6: you know, go fund me whatever we have to do
Speaker 6: to make sure that my aunt is in a place
Speaker 6: where she is living her life in dignity a woman
Speaker 6: that she is.
Speaker 7: Now, that's what we're going to do.
Speaker 5: Wait, wait, I have fifteen dollars. I've been here. What
Speaker 5: does that do?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 5: And you know my money is in prison. That's right,
Speaker 5: That's right, And you know, and I I.
Speaker 6: Just want to I just want to underscore what you
Speaker 6: were saying Charlene as well, and that is this is
Speaker 6: still a legal situation. So yes, there are things that
Speaker 6: my aunt just can't talk about. There are things that
Speaker 6: we as a family can't talk about, you know. But
Speaker 6: I think that the thing that we can talk about
Speaker 6: is the fact that my aunt sounds great. I've seen
Speaker 6: her in a very limited capacity, but I've seen her,
Speaker 6: We're talking to her. This does not match an incapacitated person.
Speaker 6: And she like, That's why we say she's in like
Speaker 6: a luxury prison, because she is being held and she
Speaker 6: is being punished, you know what I mean, for whatever
Speaker 6: reason that other people are coming up with as to
Speaker 6: why is she asked to be kept in this position.
Speaker 6: We're not asking, you know, for a whole lot. And
Speaker 6: I'm going to speak for myself, I'm not asking for.
Speaker 7: A whole lot.
Speaker 6: All I'm saying is just treat the woman with dignity
Speaker 6: and give her the freedoms that she deserves.
Speaker 3: We got more with Wendy Williams when we come back.
Speaker 3: Eight hundred five eight five one oh five one. What
Speaker 3: are your thoughts on this? Guardian shit?
Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on how they are treating Wendy?
Speaker 4: Call us up.
Speaker 1: Let's discuss this the Breakfast Club Good morning morning.
Speaker 3: Everybody is DJ Envy, Jess, Hilarry is Charlamagne the guy?
Speaker 3: We are to Breakfast Club it with Wendy Williams and
Speaker 3: her niece Alex Finney Charlamagne.
Speaker 1: Let's say what Wendy wants.
Speaker 2: Wendy wants to be, you know, released out of this conservativeship.
Speaker 2: But she wants to be in Miami with her family,
Speaker 2: with you, Alex, and with you know, the rest of
Speaker 2: the family, her son. She wants to be in Miami.
Speaker 2: She's made this known. She's you know, told everybody she
Speaker 2: needs to tell. I don't know why it's not happening.
Speaker 2: I want to say no, no.
Speaker 5: Let me let me just say and then you can
Speaker 5: go back to charlamade. Let me just say about Miami. Okay.
Speaker 5: You know it started out with my parents, you know,
Speaker 5: to Miami. We're all from New Jersey, but near New York.
Speaker 5: So you listen to Radio New York. You see Radio
Speaker 5: New York. You know what I'm saying. Asbury Park, New Jersey. Okay,
Speaker 5: that's where I was born, all right, But then you know,
Speaker 5: I moved up to Ocean Township and then my parents
Speaker 5: were the first ones in the family that said, no,
Speaker 5: we're tired of the cold and the winter and the ice.
Speaker 5: So they moved. And this was years ago, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. I was twenty seven when they moved
Speaker 5: to Miami. Anyway, the entire family now lives in Miami.
Speaker 5: And and look, my son, my son, my son is
Speaker 5: doing such a great job. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 5: I saw him. Look, he graduated and I was in Miami,
Speaker 5: and that was a few about a month ago, Alex.
Speaker 5: Talk about the great time that we had and seeing
Speaker 5: my dad. We all went out and had like a
Speaker 5: party at one point.
Speaker 1: Your dad's gonna be at ninety four next week, I mean.
Speaker 5: Next month, right, listen, ninety four. That that's a whole
Speaker 5: nother thing. Like I don't know whether I'm allowed to
Speaker 5: fly to Miami to say happy birthday to my dad,
Speaker 5: to get him. I want to get him. Look, look,
Speaker 5: look that person that you talk about who's holding me hostage, Morrissey.
Speaker 2: Your god on, we gotta say her name. We gotta
Speaker 2: put her name out there, Sabrina morris Then.
Speaker 5: I don't know that she's going to let me because
Speaker 5: she already said to see my dad for his birthday.
Speaker 5: You know he's gonna be ninety four, and and all
Speaker 5: I can look, look, look, look, look, please continue to talk, Alex.
Speaker 5: Go ahead.
Speaker 1: Can I say something out to you? Know?
Speaker 2: You know you lost your grandmother, Alex Whendy, you lost
Speaker 2: your mother. You were in the conservativeship when that happened.
Speaker 7: Yeah, wow, Well, well here's the thing.
Speaker 6: She was not in the conservativeship when that happened, but
Speaker 6: that period of time was right before. And to know
Speaker 6: that she may not be able to come down here
Speaker 6: for my grandfather's ninety fourth birthday every day is not promised.
Speaker 6: One thing that I know that my aunt wanted and
Speaker 6: we talked. We talked about this nauseum. She wants to
Speaker 6: be here for his birthday. And the fact that they're
Speaker 6: playing games about my grandfather being able to see his
Speaker 6: daughter and my aunt being able to see her father.
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, that is just absolutely sickening.
Speaker 5: Like I'm exhausted thinking about what if I can't see
Speaker 5: my dad for his birthday, you know at ninety four,
Speaker 5: you know the day after that is not comic. It's
Speaker 5: not promise.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: I have things from my dad that's in Storrid and here.
Speaker 5: They are little things that I say, you know, I'm
Speaker 5: not going to give it to them, but I'm going
Speaker 5: to sew them and make them so that they look
Speaker 5: perfect on me. You know what I'm saying. Yes, I
Speaker 5: know how to sew. I've known how to sew for years,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. But I'm saying, like I
Speaker 5: want to give my dad some sort of fragrance. You know,
Speaker 5: I want to go to Sophora and pick and Choo's
Speaker 5: what yea, my life is like up?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Alex, Alex, do you think you think that there'll
Speaker 2: be some type of there'll be some type of retaliation
Speaker 2: from the Guardian because of you know, maybe this phone
Speaker 2: call or.
Speaker 6: Because yeah, wow, we've talked about that, you know, my
Speaker 6: aunt even with her wine to come on, we talked
Speaker 6: about all scenarios. I said, you know, do this, You're
Speaker 6: ready for what's on the other side. And as she said,
Speaker 6: I have to do this. There's nothing else I could do.
Speaker 6: At this point, she's prepared to this back and her
Speaker 6: phone might be taken away.
Speaker 5: If they take my phone, I won't be able to
Speaker 5: talk to anybody.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know, you all what you're hearing now,
Speaker 6: this is a few minute clip of what we've been
Speaker 6: dealing with for the last several months, in the last
Speaker 6: two three years. Now, Like she can get moved and
Speaker 6: we may not even know where she's where she is,
Speaker 6: that was the reality of where she was during the documentary.
Speaker 6: We weren't permitted to go see her. So this whole
Speaker 6: documentary aired, nobody's able to call her nobody's able to
Speaker 6: see her. You know, the reason why I was doing
Speaker 6: the stuff with the View and Good Morning America was
Speaker 6: because she was nowhere to be found in the meantime.
Speaker 5: You that listen, here's the weird thing, right, And while
Speaker 5: we were talking, while you're on the View, right, I
Speaker 5: got the telephone number. I could call Joy Behar, but
Speaker 5: my number is with the guardian. I could call my
Speaker 5: friend Rosanna Scato. I could call Fat Joe. I could
Speaker 5: call Alex. My number not in storage, but my guardian
Speaker 5: person has my phone.
Speaker 1: God, nam, Alex, let me ask you a question.
Speaker 5: Had it for three years?
Speaker 2: By the way, she's had your phone for three and
Speaker 2: she got control of all your bank accounts and everything.
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, that's what the news reports,
Speaker 2: and the news reports that you have control of your
Speaker 2: bank accounts and everything.
Speaker 3: Besides the Instagram and the social media. Who who can
Speaker 3: we write? Do we have an email for some people
Speaker 3: to say, yo, what's going on? What's up.
Speaker 5: Ahead? Can I tell you something other than when I
Speaker 5: was able to purchase like a whole bunch of like
Speaker 5: I got like nail polished and lipstick and things like that. Otherwise,
Speaker 5: when because I'm here in New York. The Guardian. Has
Speaker 5: somebody get me like nail polish, you know, like the
Speaker 5: normal things that I like, Like I need a new
Speaker 5: hair brush, please, you know, go out and get it
Speaker 5: for me and bring it back. Oh no, this is
Speaker 5: not the one that I want, But I guess this
Speaker 5: is the one that I'm forced to use. You know what,
Speaker 5: you understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what about eyelashes? What about eyelashes?
Speaker 4: Look?
Speaker 5: Look, look, look the full hair, makeup and wardrobe.
Speaker 8: Saying Today she said she was stories up. She saw
Speaker 8: him at the window. She said, is that a Chanel bag?
Speaker 8: I said, incapacitated about that? She spotted it back from
Speaker 8: floors up.
Speaker 5: Okay, you know Chanel with me, But I also have
Speaker 5: an air Mes with me right here. Okay, labels, Darling,
Speaker 5: we got fifteen dollars.
Speaker 1: Cut it out. Listen.
Speaker 2: Wendy's attorney Linda Raleiski. I think that's how you pronounce
Speaker 2: her last name. She made a contribution. This is what
Speaker 2: I heard. She made a contribution to the judge after
Speaker 2: she was assigned to your case.
Speaker 1: Is really isn't that a conflicandrest?
Speaker 6: I would say so, yes, yes, absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 5: Oh my god. There you have my god, Oh my god.
Speaker 6: And I'd be happy for somebody to prove me wrong
Speaker 6: and tell me why Wow, give me the fact as
Speaker 6: to why that's not.
Speaker 4: We got more with Wendy Williams when we come back,
Speaker 4: don't move.
Speaker 3: It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning everybody. J V Jess Hilarius,
Speaker 3: Charlamagne the God. We are the Breakfast Club. Lawn and
Speaker 3: roast is here with us this morning. We're still kicking
Speaker 3: it with Wendy Williams and her niece Alex Finney Lauren.
Speaker 8: Alex, I have one more question for you and when
Speaker 8: you can chime into how does this affect her health?
Speaker 8: Because I know we we followed her a journey with
Speaker 8: like grave disease and stuff like that, but like being
Speaker 8: emotionally distressed like this, that can't be good for her
Speaker 8: just healthwise, and that's supposed to be the point of
Speaker 8: the conservativeship.
Speaker 4: So what's that light?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean you know, I mean, imagine you're sitting
Speaker 6: in a in a space every single day, you're not
Speaker 6: getting sunlight. You're you're you're not able to leave, to
Speaker 6: leave your place. You can't see people, you can't you
Speaker 6: can't just have free conversation. You know, you do this
Speaker 6: day in and day out for months, off years at
Speaker 6: a time. Mentally, that breaks you down in ways that
Speaker 6: I can't even imagine.
Speaker 7: I mean, we know that there have been stories when.
Speaker 5: I tell you something. And this is a fact I
Speaker 5: asked the other day. I said, listen, you know my thyroid.
Speaker 5: You know, I want to go to the person that
Speaker 5: I've been going to for years. I've got her name,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, And that is who I
Speaker 5: want to go to again. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: because thyroid, thyroid I've had for twenty four years. I
Speaker 5: found out about thyroid, you know, around the time well
Speaker 5: at the time that I was trying to get pregnant.
Speaker 5: And my son is my son is twenty four. So
Speaker 5: that's how I can, you know, tell you know my
Speaker 5: thyroid anyway, And she told me that I wouldn't be
Speaker 5: going there because my pill for thyroid is perfect. The
Speaker 5: pill that I have for cyroid is perfect. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 5: so what does that mean. Look, this is my life, people,
Speaker 5: this is my life. You know what I'm saying. This
Speaker 5: is my goddamn life.
Speaker 6: The bottom line is my aunt hasn't had I mean,
Speaker 6: we talked with this yesterday. She hasn't had, from what
Speaker 6: I understand, a medical evaluation to see if her rights
Speaker 6: can be restored.
Speaker 7: And it seems as though that instead of this guardian Sabrina,
Speaker 7: you know, working.
Speaker 6: With her, it seems though she's made it difficult every
Speaker 6: which way for my aunt to be able to live
Speaker 6: any sort of healthy, independent life.
Speaker 7: And you know, it's almost as if she doesn't.
Speaker 6: Want my aunt to show that she's healthy and independent
Speaker 6: because as we know about these guardianships, and as MyAnna said,
Speaker 6: the system's broken because the longer she's under this guardianship,
Speaker 6: the longer they have the keys to her life, for
Speaker 6: her personal, her financial, her emotional, everything, you know. And
Speaker 6: so that's the reality of the guardianship system.
Speaker 7: It's overloaded.
Speaker 6: You know, there's a reason why they're looking at the
Speaker 6: New York guardianship system right now. There's a reason why
Speaker 6: lawmakers are calling on state leaders to reform this system.
Speaker 6: It's because it's broken, and it's a shame that we're
Speaker 6: in this place. I know, I'm getting really emotionally charged
Speaker 6: right now, but this is how sickening it is and
Speaker 6: how tired I am of having to talk about this
Speaker 6: and have these conversations with my aunt, you know, because
Speaker 6: it's not just her, you know. And thank God that
Speaker 6: we have platforms like this that we can go on
Speaker 6: and we can we can talk about this. But there
Speaker 6: is a lack of scrutiny across the board. We know,
Speaker 6: there's a lack of funding. There are too few guards
Speaker 6: for the amount of people under this system, you know,
Speaker 6: and as a result, a lot of things go unchecked.
Speaker 6: There's a lot of neglect as well as obviously we
Speaker 6: know as well, financial exploitation of some of the most
Speaker 6: vulnerable people.
Speaker 7: That's the reality. Those are facts, it's written in print.
Speaker 6: And my aunt is one of those people, one of
Speaker 6: the over what twenty eight thousand people under guardianship in
Speaker 6: New York. She's one of those people that's under this situation. So, yes,
Speaker 6: this is about her. Yes we want her back, Yes
Speaker 6: we want her freed. Yes we want her to live
Speaker 6: with dignity and be able to move on with her life.
Speaker 6: But this her story is a fight that many other
Speaker 6: people are going through as well, and they don't have
Speaker 6: the resources. So imagine where that they stand at this point.
Speaker 6: And that's why I'm so passionate about this.
Speaker 1: You know, you know, you us, Alex, you brought up
Speaker 1: something that you know they bought up.
Speaker 2: In the A and E lawsuit, it said the documentarians
Speaker 2: have not spoken positively about William's guardianship. There's a bill
Speaker 2: in the New York legislature right now that's designed the
Speaker 2: curve guardian abuse and prevent guardian from restricting access to
Speaker 2: family members. That's what the executive producer Mark Ford told
Speaker 2: Culture in February twenty twenty four. I'm not sure where
Speaker 2: that bill stands, but this is the perfect illustration of
Speaker 2: a family that wants to be in touch, wants to be.
Speaker 1: Involved, but for whatever reason, can't. That's real.
Speaker 2: That's really the purpose of his phone call, just to
Speaker 2: let everybody Wendy Williams is currently trapped in the conservativeship.
Speaker 2: And you know she's not cognitively in paired, she's not incapacitated.
Speaker 1: She's just being taken advantage of you.
Speaker 5: And also remember I feel like I'm in prison. I
Speaker 5: am definitely isolated, you know what I'm saying. You know,
Speaker 5: you know, and to talk to these people who, like
Speaker 5: I said, who live here, you know, that is not
Speaker 5: my cup of tea. Do you understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, they're good people, but I keep
Speaker 5: the door closed. I watch TV, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I listen to radio, you know, and I watched the window,
Speaker 5: you know, and I sit here like as my life
Speaker 5: goes by. You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: And you know what, Lauren, Lauren, I want to say
Speaker 6: something because I did hear yesterday about you going and
Speaker 6: it was like the whole mess which you just explained, Yes,
Speaker 6: that happened, and the and the alarm bells started ringing.
Speaker 6: That's when my aunt was told. Oh, and I'm paraphrasing here,
Speaker 6: but but you know, your cats chit chat in my way,
Speaker 6: and anybody that's the Ondie fan knows how much my
Speaker 6: aunt loves chit chat in my way.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I gave those cats away. You don't have anymore.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, your dad's birthday, your dad's birthday, Well
Speaker 6: that's up in the air.
Speaker 7: You're gonna have to talk with Linda.
Speaker 1: And she's getting punished there.
Speaker 6: Yes, it's like she's getting punished for just trying to
Speaker 6: be a normal person about society and.
Speaker 7: To live exactly.
Speaker 1: So they took cats, yes.
Speaker 7: So so that's what she told me yesterday, right when.
Speaker 5: That's I had. I had no idea that they were.
Speaker 5: I had no idea that they actually took my cats.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. You know, I wanted my
Speaker 5: cats with me. You understand what I'm saying. And I
Speaker 5: actually that's my friend Lauren. I was saying, Lauren, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. You know, come, you know about
Speaker 5: the cats anyway, So my cats are gone everybody, and
Speaker 5: I did not know that until I talked to my
Speaker 5: guardian person and she told me that the cats are.
Speaker 5: I said, you mean they are gone, gone, gone, gone,
Speaker 5: gone chit chat and my way, my twin cats, they're gone.
Speaker 5: They're gone.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so getting rid of the cats.
Speaker 2: Won't let won't let you possibly see your father next
Speaker 2: next month for his ninety fourth birthday.
Speaker 4: She can't leave.
Speaker 5: Don't care, don't say, don't say it.
Speaker 1: Won't that said, possibly said, I said possibly.
Speaker 2: What I'm what I'm getting at is all of this
Speaker 2: feels like some sort of retaliation because of you know,
Speaker 2: what they've been seeing in the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm getting at.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, my god, my god, my god, my god.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's what this is.
Speaker 5: DJ Envy. By the way, Hi, DJ Envy, Wendy.
Speaker 2: I told Envy that you thought he was gay because
Speaker 2: you saw him on TV with Tammy Roman buzzing his.
Speaker 5: Look. Look, look, bive me alone, dj V. I remember
Speaker 5: that that you came to me when I was doing
Speaker 5: radio and you weren't even into radio at that point. Yes,
Speaker 5: but you know what you and Charlottage good good things
Speaker 5: that you people are doing. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: Good for you thanks to people like me.
Speaker 3: If it wasn't for you, Wendy, we wouldn't be doing
Speaker 3: the things that we're doing now. So I appreciate all
Speaker 3: that you have done and all the trials and tribulations.
Speaker 3: Like we we are on your shoulder, like if it
Speaker 3: wasn't for for you, we wouldn't be here.
Speaker 1: So thank you so much. Thank you for having big shoulders.
Speaker 5: Absolutely just you know what, and and thank you for
Speaker 5: thank you for that, Thank you ver for that. Anyway,
Speaker 5: continue to talk, Alex hold On.
Speaker 1: I want to say, I think I think we said enough.
Speaker 2: I just want this is a fu this is a
Speaker 2: few that I wanted to light so I know it
Speaker 2: will explode and then we'll know what to do next
Speaker 2: after this correct And and I want everybody that's in
Speaker 2: that system that Wendy is currently in, I want them
Speaker 2: to know that we know what's going on.
Speaker 1: That's right, you know what I mean. So she's not
Speaker 1: she's not alone out here.
Speaker 2: You can't just isolate Wendy Wiams and make her disappear.
Speaker 1: That's not gonna happen.
Speaker 6: And the last thing I want to see Sherman, just
Speaker 6: to what you were saying, is anybody that knows my aunt.
Speaker 6: My aunt has always been a unique personality.
Speaker 7: You know, that is who she is.
Speaker 6: How she's talking now, and how it's you know, she
Speaker 6: goes from one topic to the.
Speaker 7: Next is a spin right back to the other topic.
Speaker 1: Watch her.
Speaker 6: So for people that don't know her, meaning you're looking
Speaker 6: and you're like, huh.
Speaker 7: If you know her what she's known very widely, you
Speaker 7: know that's.
Speaker 4: Who she is.
Speaker 6: Don't try to twist who she is as if oh
Speaker 6: there's something wrong with her. No no, no, no, no, you just
Speaker 6: don't know her the way we do.
Speaker 3: Not even that, Alex, all the stuff that she's been
Speaker 3: saying for years is coming to fruition.
Speaker 2: Now, let's talk about that to proved that she's not
Speaker 2: prove she's not cognitive stuff she's been talking to. Wendy,
Speaker 2: you got fired from high ninety seven years ago because
Speaker 2: of Diddy. All these years later to see where Diddy
Speaker 2: currently is, what do you feel about that situation?
Speaker 5: Hey, Hey, when I watch TMZ and I see the
Speaker 5: stuff that goes on, I'm like, oh my god, And
Speaker 5: then all of a sudden, I see me on TMZ.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. It's really weird seeing me
Speaker 5: on TV when I'm caught in this position. You know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. The other day, I was watching Cookout
Speaker 5: and there I am in the first opening scene. I
Speaker 5: was like, oh my god, Season one, episode thirteen, There
Speaker 5: I am on Martin. You know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 5: as far as Diddy, Diddy will go to prison for life. People,
Speaker 5: you don't know things that I do about Diddy back
Speaker 5: in the day. And you want to know what it's
Speaker 5: about time? People, It is about time Diddy done, dude,
Speaker 5: I'll do to day.
Speaker 6: Wendy Queen had spoken, there you have it.
Speaker 1: That's right. This is just the first step of MANI
Speaker 1: Alex love you, Wendy love you. Yes, yea Alex.
Speaker 4: Emotional crying.
Speaker 2: Yes, and please to all her guardianship and everybody else,
Speaker 2: y'all cannot hide, Wendy, do not hear this phone call
Speaker 2: and see this all in the news, and you're gonna
Speaker 2: take away her phone and you're gonna isolate her.
Speaker 1: No, we know the address, what she at?
Speaker 2: That's right, Okay, We're gonna stay right, and we hope
Speaker 2: that she's We hope to see her next month in
Speaker 2: Miami with her father celebrating his ninety fourth birthday and
Speaker 2: her family do it.
Speaker 1: And we hope that she gets to live in Miami
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 3: That's right, and start a podcast yet.
Speaker 4: Wendy, Alex, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: We love you.
Speaker 2: Not right, not everybody and Wendy, Wendy, yes, come on,
Speaker 2: you know what you got.
Speaker 1: You can't just end with we love you. You know what
Speaker 1: you gotta in with? How you doing?
Speaker 5: Win? Shout it out?
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. It's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 5: Good morning,