1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we'll be 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: watching tonight's WNBA games, hoping that we see the girl 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: and the no One watches men's sports shirt again. On 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: today's show, a very special group chat that's also a 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: power couple with broadcasters and analysts Lisa Byington and Shimmy Miller. 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: Plus we'll hear what you slices had to say about 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: the interview with Christine Brennan. It's all coming up right 8 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:37,599 Speaker 1: after this Welcome back, Happy Friday. Here's what you need 9 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: to know today in the WNBA, who's up for a 10 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: pair of game threes? We are? The Minnesota Links and 11 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: the Connecticut Sun are tied one one as the semi 12 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: final series shifts from Minnesota to Uncasville tonight. Who will 13 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: help carry the load from Minnesota on offense? If Navisa 14 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: call your struggles again, will do Wanna Bonner pass Candice 15 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: Parker for second place on the all time Playoffs points list? 16 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: She needs just seven points to do it. That one 17 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: tips off at seven thirty Eastern. Then the New York 18 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: Liberty has a two zero series lead and they'll had 19 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: to Vegas for the first game on the Aces home court. 20 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: Will Sabrina and Escu lighted up again, can Vegas rise 21 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: to coach Becky Hammond's defensive standard? And will we see 22 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: a historic scoring performance from Asia Wilson. Tap in at 23 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: nine thirty eastern to see for yourself. Oh and if 24 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 1: you want to hear more about the x's and o's 25 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: of all of it, make sure you tune into WNBA 26 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: Countdown at seven eastern on ESPN two. Some breaking WNBA 27 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: news today, Okay, not really, we all definitely knew this 28 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: was coming. The WNBA announced on Thursday that Caitlin Clark 29 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: is the twenty twenty four Rookie of the Year. It's 30 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,639 Speaker 1: not a surprise, especially after last week's WNBPA statement mentioned 31 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: the Fever star as if she was a season ending 32 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: award winner. Clark received sixty six of sixty seven votes, 33 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: with Angel Reese collecting one. Now, this episode would be 34 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: even longer than yesterday's if we listed all of Clark's 35 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: accomplishments this season, so we'll link to a list in 36 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: the show notes. More WNBA news. The Atlanta Dream fired 37 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: third year head coach Tanisha Right on Wednesday. Wright, who 38 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: had a fourteen year w career as a player with 39 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: the championship to Boot led Atlanta to a fifteen to 40 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: twenty five record as head coach this season, and she 41 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: also led them through a thrilling fight for the last 42 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: seed in the postseason, but the team was swept in 43 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: the first round. For the second straight year. The Dream 44 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: haven't had a winning record since the twenty eighteen season. 45 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: Wright squad did have some notable injuries to key pieces 46 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 1: this season, including to leading scorer Ryan Howard, two way 47 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 1: threat aerial Powers starting point guard Jordan Canada, and veteran 48 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: forward Schian Parker Tias. That's always tough to deal with, 49 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: but right is out and her firing means there are 50 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: now four head coach positions opened in the w Atlanta, Chicago, 51 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, and Golden State. To Soccer, we're closing in 52 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: on the final month of the NWSL regular season and 53 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: there are lots of playoff implications heading into Week twenty two. 54 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: Shout out to chart queen and data viz whiz Alison Gaale, 55 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: who compiled the list of a bunch of those scenarios. 56 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: We'll link to her list in the show notes. A 57 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: few teams can clinch playoff births and home games this 58 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: weekend Washington, Gotham, and Kansas City could all clinch quarterfinal 59 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 1: hosting privileges. North Carolina look into secure a playoff spot, 60 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: while Utah, Houston, and Seattle are all on the brink 61 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: of elimination depending on how the results fall. Plus the 62 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: Orlando Pride will clinch the Shield with a win. In 63 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 1: previous seasons, the NWSL Shield winner essentially got an engraved 64 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: pie plate for posting the league best record, but the 65 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: trophy got a major makeover thanks to Tiffany and Company. 66 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: Also tiny tidbit that gave us a giggle. So the 67 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: nwsl'sccount tweeted a video of the new Shield trophy and 68 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: Seattle Rain head coach Laura Harvey quoted it with the 69 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: caption quote, excited to see what the upgrade is for 70 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: Coach of the Year. I'm hoping Seb gets more than 71 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: the tweet end quote. She's referring to Orlando Pride head 72 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: coach Seb Hines, who's likely to win Coach of the 73 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: Year this year. And given that Harvey has won the 74 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: award three times herself. Guess and she's talking from experience 75 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: here when she says, hope you get more than a tweet. 76 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: Some more NWSL news and this is honestly infuriating. The 77 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: Safe Sport investigation into formership Jago Redstars coach Rory Dames 78 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: has been closed for now. Dames was mentioned nearly four 79 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: hundred times in former Acting Attorney General Sallyate's thorough twenty 80 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: twenty two report on abuse in women soccer. He's no 81 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: longer listed on the Safe Sport Disciplinary database, which is 82 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: a hub for info on the restrictions placed on coaches 83 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: and others. Dames has repeatedly denied allegations of verbal and 84 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: emotional abuse, sexual misconduct, and grooming made against him by 85 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: former players at the youth and professional levels. Per the 86 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: Washington Post, Safe Sport has said it won't comment on 87 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: case outcomes, but that dames removal from their database and 88 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: the temporary closing of his case is due to quote 89 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: an administrative hold and that there's quote insufficient information to 90 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: sustain the matter for now. More from the Post. Out 91 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: of six of Dames named accusers for say they were 92 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: never contacted by Safe Sport, One said the last time 93 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: they were contacted was three years ago, and another decided 94 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: not to respond after she was contacted by an investigator 95 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: about the wrong coach so frustrating. Elsewhere in soccer news, 96 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: Netflix has announced a new documentary called It's All Over 97 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: The Kiss That Changed Spanish Football that focuses on Spain's 98 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three World Cup win. Many of the team 99 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: stars appear in the Dock, which revisits the controversy filled 100 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: years leading up to the World Cup, their remarkable success, 101 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,679 Speaker 1: and the aftermath of the abhorrent actions of the former 102 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: president of the Royal Spanish Football Association, Luis Rubialis. During 103 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 1: the World Cup podium ceremony, which should have been a 104 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: momentous occasion for the players, Rubilis grabbed forward Jenny Hermoso 105 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: and kissed her on the mouth. Rubialis is set to 106 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: stand trial on February third, twenty twenty five, facing charges 107 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: of sexual assault and coercion. Prosecutors are seeking a prison 108 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: term of two years and six months. The documentary is 109 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: set to premiere worldwide November first. Finally, in college basketball news, 110 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four NCAA champion South Carolina game Cocks 111 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: announced they've sold out season tickets for the first time 112 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 1: in program history. Season tickets account for thirteen thousan forty 113 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 1: six seats per game. Colonial Life Arena has a capacity 114 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: of eighteen ten thousand, and the program said the rest 115 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: of the seats will be sold on a single game basis. 116 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: The Game Cocks have led the nation in average attendance 117 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: for the last ten seasons. We got to take a 118 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: quick break. When we come back, the Sky's the limit 119 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: with Power Couple Lisa Byington and Jimmy Miller. It's time 120 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: for another group chat where we take the t from 121 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: the texts and bring it to the airwaves. And this 122 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: is an extra special group chat because it's our first 123 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: ever Power Couple. 124 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 2: Yeah. 125 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: She's a play by play announcer, studio host, and feature 126 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: producer reporter, including acting as the play by play announcer 127 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: for the Chicago Sky. She's broadcast games all over the 128 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: place Fox Sports, FS one, Big Ten Network, CBS, Turner Sports, 129 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: PAC twelve, ESPN, SEC Network. In twenty seventeen, she became 130 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: the first woman to call play by play for a 131 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: college football game for the Big Ten Network, and in 132 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, she became the first female full time 133 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: play by play voice for a major men's professional sports 134 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: team as the play by play voice of the Milwaukee Bucks. 135 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: Who Are My NBA side piece. She's a baller herself, 136 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: having played four years of hoops and two years of 137 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,239 Speaker 1: soccer at Northwestern University, and both teams made the NCAA tournament. 138 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: We once went beyond Thunderdome together. That's a story for 139 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: another time. It's Lisa Byington. What's up, Lisa? What's up? Sarah? 140 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 3: Love your podcast, Love you, thanks for the invite joining her. 141 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: She's a broadcast in studio analyst, including sitting alongside Lisa 142 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: for the Chicago Sky and for the Big Time Network. 143 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: She's a twenty four year college coaching vet, including assistant 144 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: coach stops at Minnesota, Clemson, Florida, Arizona, Washington, Nebraska, and 145 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: head coaching stops at Saint Louis U and Texas Tech. 146 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: She's a proud Flint, Michigan native. She's got a master's 147 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: degree in athletic leadership and a bachelor's degree in sociology 148 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: and law. Helping your Champion Mental and physical Health, Justice 149 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: and equity, Dog Lover La La Plouza, goer, and look 150 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: out Lard Hamilton. She's on a surfboard too. It's Shimmy Miller. 151 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: What's up, Shimmy, what's up? 152 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 3: Sarah, I was the surf Wait a second, why didn't 153 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 3: I not get dog lover in my bio too? 154 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: Since we own the same dog. You got Thunderdome and 155 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: Shimmy was also at thunder We were all at the 156 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: Thunderdome together. 157 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 4: As if your bio wasn't long enough. 158 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: I know, right, I did. 159 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: I did. 160 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: I forget some college reporting. You did it. 161 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 3: We got to work on the side piece though, make 162 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 3: that into the I mean, honestly, the bulls are gonna 163 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 3: be so trash they might just get dumped and the 164 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 3: bucks might become the main thing. 165 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: But okay, fun fact, y'all are married, hence the power 166 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: couple part. So let's start with the schmoopy stuff. Lisa, 167 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: how did you two meet? Uh? Basketball world? 168 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 3: Shimmy was at Nebraska at the time I was at 169 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 3: Big ten Network. We became acquaintances, first friends. Second, there 170 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 3: was a period of time where we just didn't even talk. 171 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 3: And and then you know, Shimmy has worked in every 172 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 3: single Power five conference, which is now the Power four, 173 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 3: but at the time every Power five conference. 174 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: So she started moving around. 175 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 3: But with every I think we both realized, like with 176 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 3: every major thing that we went through, we always wanted 177 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 3: to connect with certain people and each other ended up 178 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 3: being right like who who we wanted to connect with? 179 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: And so we eventually figured it. 180 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 3: Out, and so we went acquaintance's friends, didn't talk for 181 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 3: a while, you know, reconnected, and now we're married. 182 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: Isn't that the path that everybody takes? 183 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? 184 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally of course. Uh show me one proposal, two proposals? 185 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: How did that go? 186 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 4: I was just one Lisa proposed to me. 187 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 2: It was supposed to be my graduation, like I was 188 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 2: graduating with you know, with my masters, and so I 189 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 2: wanted to do just like a fun party. So we 190 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 2: rented at Airbnb in South Carolina in the lake. We 191 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 2: invited about fifteen of our friends, and I thought we 192 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 2: were just, you know, gonna hike and celebrate Shimmy's you know, old. 193 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 4: Ass finally going back and getting your master's degree. 194 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: And at the end of the hike, we get down 195 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 2: and it was this beautiful, elaborately planned proposal. 196 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,599 Speaker 4: It was all Lisa. It was amazing, she says. 197 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: Elaborately planned. But she literally asked me, are you proposing 198 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: to me? So I guess I didn't do the obvious thing. 199 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 3: I said, I'm trying so Oh my god, so roll 200 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 3: with it a little bit. 201 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: That's one of those hikes where the whole time you're like, 202 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 1: don't sprain an ankle, don't complain about how bored you are, 203 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: don't decide to turn back early, Like, let's just make 204 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: it to this destination. That's so cute. Okay, I want 205 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: to do a little Roses and Thorns. So the roses 206 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 1: the highlight. The thorn is the struggle. So shimmy roses 207 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: and thorns of calling a game alongside your wife. 208 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 2: The roses I get to work with, you know, in 209 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 2: my opinion, the best play by play in the world. 210 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 4: So you know, she elevates me, she makes me better. 211 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 4: So that's the rose. The thorn. She's hard on me, like, 212 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 4: she's so hard on me. She's made me cry, like twice, she's. 213 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: So at work on me. 214 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: Or after yeah, no, the first time, like my first 215 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 2: game calling a sky I literally had tears in my 216 00:10:58,440 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 2: eyes at halftime. 217 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: Don't let that cute. 218 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 4: Little blonde, you know blue lies. 219 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: What did she say? Oh you did you mess something up? 220 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 2: Or multiple things, Sarah, multiple things she took, but she 221 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 2: at halftimes she took her headset off and like leaned 222 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 2: into me and I went, oh God, and she like 223 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 2: leaned in and she said, you are being paid to 224 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 2: do a job, so do your job. 225 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 4: And I had tears. I was like, okay, I I felt. 226 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 2: Like I was like eight year old Shimmy who just 227 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 2: picked something up from the grocery store and fled and 228 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 2: you know, Mama Miller was about to get in that butt. 229 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 4: Like That's what I felt like. So, roses and thorns, 230 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 4: But it's all good now, I am. I am better 231 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 4: because of moments like that. 232 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: Okay, Lisa, roses and thorns of working with Shimmy. 233 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, well the roses is I love seeing her. You know, 234 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 3: she's she's fifty one years old, and she professions. You know, 235 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 3: you introduced her as a coach who's been doing it 236 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 3: for twenty four years, So who does that? 237 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: You know? 238 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 3: And not only do you change professions, but it's not 239 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 3: like she's sitting in a cubicle as an accountant where 240 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 3: no one's watching, right, Like, everyone is watching her on 241 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 3: TV and studio doing games, whatever she's going to do, 242 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 3: and they're critiquing her and they're they're nitpicking every mistake. 243 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 3: And so that to me is gratifying to see her 244 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 3: make that jump and make that change, and take that 245 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 3: risk and stretch herself as a fifty. 246 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: One year old woman to do that. I think it's awesome. 247 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 3: The thorns are she's smarter than me, and I don't 248 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 3: like to sit next to people who are smarter than me. 249 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: So I love it. I love it so lots of 250 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: time watching the Sky talking about the Sky show me. 251 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: A lot of people were shocked to see Teresa Weather 252 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: it's been let go by the team after just one season. 253 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: What are you hearing about the impetus for that decision? 254 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:57,719 Speaker 4: Not much, I mean not much at all. 255 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 2: Were it was interesting, Sarah because we were actually all together, 256 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 2: Lisa Jason Ross Junior, who's another play by play, with 257 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 2: this guy, Carly Bell who works for Marque Sports with 258 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 2: this guy, and Derek Jensen, who's our producer for our 259 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 2: studio show that we do with the Sky. We were 260 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 2: actually having like the end of season dinner celebration dinner 261 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 2: together and we all got the news at the same time. 262 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 2: But this is what I'll say is that coaching is 263 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 2: a transient profession. Look, I've been fired four times as 264 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 2: a coach, and only once that I think I really 265 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 2: deserve it. The other three times I was like, what 266 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 2: the hell you know? It just it's they don't have 267 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 2: to have a good reason. They don't even have to 268 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 2: have a reason. If they want to make a change, 269 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 2: they make a change, and it is what it is. 270 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 2: And you know, we might find out why later down 271 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 2: the road, or you might not ever find out. 272 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 4: It's the profession. 273 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's hard to know the situation she 274 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: was coming into and have it be one year regardless 275 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: of what you saw, without any major blow ups or 276 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 1: toxic issues or otherwise. You usually anticipate giving someone a 277 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: little more time. So I was surprised by have you 278 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: heard anything about potential replacement? Because some people think, hey, 279 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: maybe it's Kurt Miller and that's why they made the move. 280 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: It wasn't as much about not giving her the time. 281 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: That's going out and finding someone that's available. 282 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 2: If you look at ex Twitter or whatever it is, 283 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 2: it's me like. 284 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: Someone said me, Okay, well you want to break some news. 285 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 4: Not at all. 286 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 2: There is not enough WNBA money in the world to 287 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 2: make me jump back in that chair. 288 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: Okay, good to know, good to know, we'll mark that down. 289 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: I said, no, Lisa. So many superstars have chosen to 290 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: walk away from this Sky team, and it hurts every time. 291 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: Sylvia Fowls, Elena Dellada on Kandae Parker, Colia Copper, Marina Maybrey. 292 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: This year, what can this team do to entice players 293 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: to stick around? I think they've already started it, right. 294 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 3: I think the argument that everyone has said is is 295 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 3: this organization needs to put in resources to support these players. 296 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 3: You know, right now, they've been It's no secret, so 297 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 3: it's not like I'm breaking news, but they work out 298 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 3: in Dear and and they have been. And so the 299 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 3: building of this new practice facility, the building that is 300 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 3: kind of wrapping their arms around this franchise is the 301 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 3: number one start. And honestly, so there's a groundbreaking next 302 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 3: week for that. It's it's going to be on the 303 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 3: move and and honestly, I would like to see if 304 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 3: if that is maybe the missing piece to some of 305 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 3: these players, and I think it's actually it's it's great motivation, 306 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 3: not just I'm not just talking about Sky specific stuff, Sarah. 307 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 3: I'm just talking about across the league, and you have 308 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 3: facilities like Vegas and Seattle and now Phoenix, you know, 309 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 3: and they're they're upping the ante about what these professional 310 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 3: athletes are worth and how they need to be supported. 311 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 3: That's good pressure, I think for across the league and 312 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 3: for other teams that are that are taking notice now. 313 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: I completely agree, and as a fan of the team, 314 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: I also think they got to bring someone into that 315 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: front office that's got a cool factor. It feels like 316 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: they're just falling behind some of the other teams in 317 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: the league when it comes to keeping up with like 318 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: culture and merch and logo, and you know, the mascot 319 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: is certainly a help get the hell out of here 320 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: sky guy. No if it's the actual person in the 321 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: sky guy, but that mascot was broke there just seems 322 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: like there's some stuff that will give him a little 323 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: more of an edge and will make the players more 324 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: enthusiastic and feel like a part. Like you know, just 325 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: dumb things like the cake for angel reas like it 326 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: feels like little things that you can do that that 327 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, change the perception of the team. Speaking 328 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: of Angel Rees' biggest name on the team right now, 329 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: a huge draw, hugely popular, and incredible first season, how 330 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: do they get her to buy in after what appeared 331 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: to be some real shock and disappointment about Tea Spoons 332 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: firing Lisa, Well, they make. 333 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 3: The right choice, right and and you know, I don't 334 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 3: know who the Chicago Sky are going to pick. 335 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: You know, they don't consult us in a in a 336 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: private little room. 337 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 3: But you know it's got to be someone obviously, you know, 338 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 3: Angel had posted very publicly that she felt that connection 339 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 3: with Spoon. So you know, if the Chicago Sky you know, 340 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 3: wants to engage their and their franchise player right now 341 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 3: and in the face of the franchise, they need to, 342 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 3: you know, listen to what made Spoon connect with Angel 343 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 3: and and what could be that next coach connect with 344 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,479 Speaker 3: Angel And but it's got to be someone that not 345 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 3: only connects on an emotional piece, you know, player to coach, 346 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 3: but you know it's got to be someone that also 347 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 3: challenges her, Right, That's that's going to have her ear 348 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 3: that I see you Angel at this level right now. 349 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: But here's where we're going to take you to this level. 350 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 3: Right It's not just the the BFF kind of coach, 351 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 3: it's the coach is going to have to challenge her. 352 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: So it'll it'll be interesting who that ends up being. 353 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 2: Shod me. 354 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: What was your takeaway from watching Angel all season. Biggest 355 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: thing that stood out. 356 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 2: I was one of those that didn't know how her 357 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 2: game would translate. You know, I was never it was 358 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 2: never a question with me with Caitlyn. I knew Caitlin 359 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 2: was going to be a stud because she's she's long, 360 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 2: she smart, she can pass, she can shoot right. That translates. 361 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 2: And she's also more athletic than people think. She's a 362 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 2: bet she's be a better defender, you know, if she 363 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 2: if she wanted to be. But with Angel, I really 364 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 2: didn't know because she she's limited athletically. You know, perimeter 365 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 2: shooting has always been a weakness of hers. She's never 366 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 2: been very efficient. She's a career in college forty nine 367 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 2: percent field goal shooter, so that's not great for a 368 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 2: post player. But I underestimated like all those intangibles I 369 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 2: call them saw skills, you know, the resiliency, the heart, 370 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 2: the motor all you know, all of that. Like I 371 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 2: completely underestimated how well that would translate to the next level. 372 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 2: Like she is, she is an absolute dog. And I 373 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 2: remember going to the first day of training camp and 374 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 2: just listening to her, like she taught as a rookie. 375 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 2: Her first day of practice, just talk talk talk talk taught. 376 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 2: So now though, when I as I watch her as 377 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 2: a coaching stampoint, I'm a coach and I coach the 378 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 2: post players, and I get so excited because I think 379 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 2: about where she's going to be. 380 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 4: Two three years from now. 381 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 2: Like when I recruit a kid, I don't look at 382 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 2: them and go, oh, they've arrived. I look at them 383 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 2: and go, Okay, this is where they are now, but 384 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 2: this is where I can help them be. This is 385 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 2: where they're going to be as a junior. So I 386 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 2: think about where Angel is going to be her junior 387 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 2: year in the league, man, and there are just really 388 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 2: specific skills and techniques that she can just tweak and 389 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 2: lock in on, and she's going to be a dog like. 390 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 4: She's going to be. 391 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: Fun to watch. 392 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 393 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, Lisa is such a huge year for the league 394 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: in terms of growth and eyeballs and coverage. How do 395 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: they build and grow from here to sustain that but 396 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: also keep the basketball the main thing? Yeah? Great question. 397 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 3: I think it starts too with network programming. You know, 398 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 3: I was involved with some CBS games this past summer. 399 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 3: I think the inventory is what I'm hearing from CBS 400 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 3: that's even growing. 401 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: So you know, Assumi's wearing that that shirt. 402 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 3: You know, everybody watches women's sports, but everybody also has 403 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 3: to know where to find women's sports. And to me, 404 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 3: not just talking about the w NBA this past year, 405 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 3: but just the growth of women's sports in particular, from 406 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 3: volleyball to softball, to women's college basketball to the WNBA, 407 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 3: you name it. For me, Sarah, it's been post COVID 408 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 3: shutdown or I don't know what it was, but I 409 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 3: think everyone had maybe a realization that maybe we're not 410 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 3: going about things the right way. 411 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: And one of those we're not going about. 412 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 3: Things the right way was how we were covering women's sports. 413 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 3: And so for the first time in a lot of 414 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 3: different places. I can speak to women's college basketball for example, 415 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 3: or softball, for the first time, we're seeing those sports 416 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 3: on Big Fox and ABC and CBS, and those were 417 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 3: places that those sports never appeared before. Right, So now 418 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 3: we have these games and these matchups on those platforms. 419 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 3: We need to continue to grow those platforms, in my opinion, 420 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 3: because if people are just flipping around and they don't 421 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 3: know what they're looking for, but they do see a 422 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 3: WNBA game on ABC or CBS. 423 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 1: Or wherever it's going to be. 424 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 3: You know they're going to stop and they're going to watch, 425 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 3: and that's what's happened the last year. So we just 426 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 3: need to continue to grow those networks. Platforms first and foremost, 427 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 3: in my. 428 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: Opinion, building on Superstars, building on teams that people start 429 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 1: to understand and know the storylines of is huge for that. 430 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: And it's great to see that these final four semi 431 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 1: finalists all have these great storylines, these stories to build upon, 432 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 1: whether it's looking for their first title, trying to repeate, 433 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: trying to keep a sort of dynasty going. They continue tonight. 434 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: We got Liberty up two zero on the two time 435 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: defending champion Aces, and we've got the Sun and Links 436 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: tied at a Game of peace. So shimmy, what do 437 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,479 Speaker 1: the Aces have to do to get back in this series? 438 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 5: Oh? 439 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 2: I think they'll win. I think they'll win at home 440 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 2: at least the first game. You know, the question that 441 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 2: I've had with the Aces all season is still it's depth. 442 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 2: It's the same issue that I had with them last year, 443 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 2: but for whatever reason, last year wasn't an issue. But 444 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 2: Chelsea Gray is a step slower. She's not Chelsea Gray 445 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 2: that we're used to, you know, Stokes. You know, it's 446 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 2: just Megan Gustisson. She's not it. You know, she's struggling 447 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 2: to defend against the Liberty. So I think Chelsea Gray 448 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 2: has to be better. She has to play better. And 449 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 2: then when Sidney Colson comes in, she's got to be better. 450 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 2: She can't be like the funny, silly Sydney. She's got 451 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 2: to be like a serious backup Sydney. But I think 452 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 2: it's going to be a tough road, But I do 453 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 2: think that they'll win their first game at home. 454 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: Did you listen to Becky Hammond after Game two's loss, 455 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: because I was struck by how defeated she sounded almost 456 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: like she had accepted that they were out on this 457 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: when she was talking about how hard it was to 458 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 1: stay hungry, how all the other teams were really like 459 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: fired up while her teams were doing promotions and celebrating. 460 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 1: It struck me how much it sounded like someone that 461 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: was setting us up to be like ready for them 462 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: to be out. 463 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 4: Becky's a realist. Becky is not stupid. 464 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 2: Becky's one of the best coaches in this league, and 465 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 2: she's she's not dumb. And I felt like everybody else 466 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 2: got better. Minnesota got better, you know, Liberty got better. 467 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 2: I like Tip Hays, I think that was a great git. 468 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 2: But other than Tip, really what impact players in Vegas get? 469 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 2: How are they different than what they were last year? 470 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 4: Yeah? 471 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it also might be Becky doing the 472 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: psychology thing. If I'm going to go out there and 473 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: make you all pissed at me for sounding like I've 474 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: said that you don't have that fire anymore, you never 475 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: know what she's trying to pull that one, Lisa, what 476 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: do you see the Sun having to do to keep 477 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 1: minimizing the visa calier? Because it's been impressive through the 478 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: first two games. How they've made other people have to 479 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 1: step up for the links. 480 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 4: Yeah? 481 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 3: Well, I mean I love this series because it's it's 482 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 3: first of all, we just start with the coaching, and 483 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 3: it's two coaches that I have the utmost respect for. 484 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,719 Speaker 3: And so I just love watching a series like this 485 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 3: because it is right up Cheryl Reeve and Stephanie White's 486 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 3: alli like just the x's and o's and Okay, now 487 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 3: we're you gonna scheme this way and this way. You know, 488 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 3: I just think that whenever you think of Connecticut, you 489 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 3: just think about their physicality first and foremost, right, and 490 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 3: then when you think of Minnesota's offense, you think about 491 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 3: the fluidity and. 492 00:23:58,280 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: How they share the ball. 493 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 3: So there's the contrast between strengths there, like what's gonna 494 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 3: what's gonna win out in this series? In my opinion, 495 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 3: is it the defensive physicality. Is it somehow Minnesota being 496 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 3: able to find that that flow in fluidity to be 497 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 3: able to move the ball around enough to be able 498 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 3: to free up someone like Nafisa Collier. So I think 499 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 3: it starts there first and foremost. But they're two really 500 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 3: great defensive teams. And so I know that defense isn't 501 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 3: like a sexy thing right to talk about, but but 502 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 3: that's what you're gonna get with with this series. And 503 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 3: and I'm just I'm excited to watch tonight to see, like, 504 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 3: just like I said, it's a chess match between two 505 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 3: of the best coaches who are doing it right now. 506 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it feels like the Sun are aware that 507 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 1: they are long and strong. So if they guck up 508 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: the offense that the Links is trying to put together, 509 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 1: it just it gets stuck. And that is not what 510 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: we've seen when the Links are doing their best. Obviously, 511 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: it's that flow. I feel like we got to see 512 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,479 Speaker 1: a big game from Fee though, when you put up 513 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 1: eighty in the first round and then hold New like 514 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: they did. I mean, I know it's a completely different 515 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 1: team and that's part of the reason the sunner here, 516 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: but I don't know, be hard to see her get 517 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: shut down a third game in a row. Shimmy, I 518 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: could see that you're dying to get in here. 519 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 2: I was just so annoyed after the first two games. 520 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 2: They ESPN had it on the ticker, you know, like 521 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 2: the FISA call your average forty two points a game 522 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 2: in the first round and I'm like, it's two games 523 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 2: against like a much lower seed. 524 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 4: Everybody calmed down. 525 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: Wow, I'm gonna tell Fee right now. I mean, you 526 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: don't want to give her her shine for eighty points 527 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: and two games. You don't have to, But that's impressive 528 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 1: to me. Two games are not that's a playoff series. 529 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 4: It's impressive. 530 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: It's yeah. But also it reminded me that I don't 531 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: even care if it's a blowout. I want to see 532 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: more than two games for a sweep. That's just how 533 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: I feel about about US. A three game series. It 534 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: makes it tough. Okay, So do we have picks for 535 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 1: who's gonna end up in the finals? Who you got Shimmy. 536 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 4: Minnesota and Liberty? 537 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 3: Okay, Lisa, I picked a long time ago, the Aces. 538 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 3: So I feel like if I don't pick the Aces, 539 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 3: my wife is just going to throw something at me 540 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 3: from the other room, you know. And can I just 541 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 3: say this. I picked the Aces because I fell in 542 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 3: love with them right before the Olympic All Star Break 543 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 3: and it was right when Chelsea Gray came back and 544 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 3: I forget what their record was, but it was like 545 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 3: nine and two or ten and one or something in 546 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 3: the last eleven games. And I'm like, Okay, that's the 547 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 3: Aces that has won the last two championships. And I 548 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 3: think that's the Aces that Becky Hammond keeps you talking 549 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 3: about the frustration that she keeps thinking. 550 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: That is going to show up. 551 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 3: So I guess I have to go Aces because I've 552 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 3: said Aces, and I want my wife to still like me, 553 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 3: So I'll say Aces and Links in the finals. 554 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, we got to put some money on 555 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: this in the householder some sort of chore or something 556 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: that nobody wants to do. Okay, last question, We do 557 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: this a lot with group chat. It's called fight me. 558 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: I said what I said, So you know what fight me? 559 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 1: You have to make declareative statement that we will then 560 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: put on the internet for people to fight you about. 561 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 1: It feels like that happens even when we don't want to, 562 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: but this time we're asking for it. So you can 563 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 1: only select players from the four remaining teams, and you 564 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: have to make a three person all fit team. The 565 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: tunnel is the runway. There are so many stylish players 566 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: to choose from, but you only get three. Who you 567 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: got and who wants to start? 568 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:33,239 Speaker 3: Lisa And uh, Okay, we're not talking about like athleticism, right, 569 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 3: We're talking about yeah. 570 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: Not fitness levels and not even means you're hot. We're 571 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: talking fits as I mean you are. It's a kathlete, right. 572 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: So I just wanted to make sure. I just wanted 573 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: to make sure we're not talking about, you know, the 574 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: fitness fit. You know, we've been talking about fee. 575 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 3: I I Likenfisa Collier's look sometimes, Like I see all 576 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 3: these photos pop up or the videos and everything, and 577 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,120 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, like she actually she wears some stuff 578 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 3: that I'm like, I wonder where she got that at 579 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 3: you know, so I think it's classy, it's professional. So 580 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 3: I'll start with fee Okay. 581 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 2: Shim you gotta pick, I'll go with since I stick 582 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 2: with Minnesota, I'll go with Corny Williams. 583 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 4: Okay, it's you know, the boy is chic thing. I 584 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 4: dig it. 585 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 1: I like it, Okay, Lisa, pick number two. Pick number two. 586 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Kelsey plumb only because I'm like halfway 587 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 3: jealous of her core that she's always displayed, only halfway. 588 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: Like fully fully, oh fully, I'm all in. 589 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 3: I'm definitely jealous of her core. And I always am 590 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 3: intrigued because her her outfits almost look like there's gonna 591 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 3: be a wardrobe malfunction with some of the stuff that 592 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 3: she wears, and like amber right, and and like when 593 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 3: she's walking down the tunnel, I'm like ooh, and then 594 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 3: she always makes it through, and I'm just like, way 595 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 3: to go, Kelsey. 596 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: And she always looks a bit like an assassin, which 597 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: I appreciate, like in a movie where she's like, first 598 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: she's gonna seduce the guy and then him and it's 599 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: very intriguing. Shimmy, pick number two. 600 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 4: You just described her ex husband's music video. 601 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: By the way, yeah, one thousand percent with that broke 602 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: ass fake Kelsey plummet it. I'm like, come on, do 603 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: better than that. 604 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go, So I'll stick with the Asis. I'm 605 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 2: gonna go with Asia. I'm gonna go with the MVP. 606 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 4: Okay, because she can make uh you know, a suit 607 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 4: all that look good with her pearls. 608 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 2: But she can also rock a white white tea like 609 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 2: like I've never seen so. 610 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: Killer white tea. All right, Last member of your all 611 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: fit team, Lisa. 612 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 3: At some point the married couple has to join, right, 613 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 3: So my third pick was Asia, but I am and 614 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 3: she looks great in all of her other fits. But 615 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 3: I'm going T shirt Asia. 616 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: T shirt Asia specific. 617 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 3: That's when you know that she means business. And she's 618 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 3: T shirt Asia walking down the tunnel. 619 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: That's right. 620 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 2: All right, last picky, I'm going outside the box here. 621 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Connecticut Veronica Burton. If you if you 622 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 2: look in her instagram, she is classic. She's stylish Ronica 623 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 2: BT peache. 624 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: Okay, I love those picks. Here are my picks. Okay, 625 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: so this is boring because Lisa, you already picked this person. 626 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: But yeah, Kelsey Plum, not only the style and the 627 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: like assassin like vibes, but also always impressed that how 628 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: she keeps all that stuff in the places where it 629 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: needs to be, Like, that's impressive. I'm gonna go a 630 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: little apo here and go with Dja Carrington. It's not 631 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: that I would want to rock her fits, but the 632 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: boldness with which she wears her clothes, Like sometimes she's 633 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: looking straight up legally blonde, and sometimes she looks like 634 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: she's going to the club, and sometimes she's like really 635 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: casual but still looks completely perfect, right down to every 636 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: piece of hair everything, So like it's just the way 637 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,959 Speaker 1: she pulls it all together. And then Sid Colson like, 638 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna wear a three part flower denim shirt 639 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: suit with blue knee hives, but she is, and she's 640 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: pulling it off. I'm not gonna wear a suit with 641 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: faces on it and no shirt underneath, but she's pulling 642 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,719 Speaker 1: off like Sid every time she walks through the tunnel, 643 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: I'm a little bit surprised by what she has on, 644 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: and she is always crushing it. So those are my three, 645 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: all right? Hit us up on social at Sarah Spain 646 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: on Twitter at Spain two three two three on Insta, 647 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: I'll tag these ladies too, and their picks. Tell us 648 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: what we got wrong, tell us who you like to see, 649 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: tell us your all fit team ladies. Thank you so 650 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: much for coming on. I wish we could go longer, 651 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: but we just gave people an hour and twenty minute episode, 652 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: so we're going to keep it tight today. You guys 653 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: are the best. Enjoy the game tonight. Thank you, Sarah, 654 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: Thank you. We gotta go pay some bills. Don't go anywhere. 655 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: If you do, bring us with you. You came back. 656 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: We're back too, Welcome back slices Now. Yesterday we asked 657 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: for your thoughts on our episode with USA Today columnist 658 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: Christine Brennan, and boy, did you have a lot of them. 659 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: We wanted to highlight a few of them. And by 660 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: the way, if there are any of you who skipped 661 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: that episode, maybe because you got beef with Christine's coverage 662 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: this year, or maybe because it was super long, I'd 663 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: really recommend taking a listen. It wasn't about platforming someone. 664 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,719 Speaker 1: It was about trying to understand, inform, and hopefully advance 665 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: the conversation. Okay, back to your thoughts. First up, we 666 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: got a voicemail from Kream in New York here's the message. 667 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 5: Hi there, Sarah and the Big Game crew. This is 668 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 5: Kareema calling from New York and I just listened to 669 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 5: this interview that you had with Christine Grinnan, and I 670 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 5: have to say your patience throughout was just astounding because 671 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 5: me listening to it, I was getting so frustrated. 672 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: She continued, I. 673 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 5: Give you all the credit for having her on and 674 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 5: allowing her the space to kind of get out her 675 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 5: side of it, which she just didn't help her case. 676 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 5: And I will say that and once again thank you 677 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 5: for having her on and putting up the good fight 678 00:32:55,480 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 5: for all of us, those in the WNBA and fandom, 679 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 5: you know. But I just I was very disappointed in 680 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:11,719 Speaker 5: her and her inability to say I screwed up and 681 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 5: I got to do better and take it on the chin. 682 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 5: She just couldn't do that. But that's it. But great 683 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 5: doubt as always, Sarah, go ahead the fe right bye. 684 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: Thanks Greama. I appreciate it. We also got an email 685 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: from Ashley f that read, in part, listening to Christine 686 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: felt a bit like hearing my dad, a white man 687 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: born in the fifties, refer to the time in our 688 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: country's history before social issues permeated politics and our cultural climate, 689 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: as the quote good old days. I trust that neither 690 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: is expressly ill intentioned, but they are missing a piece 691 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: of the puzzle. I take my dad to task each 692 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: time he dares to use the expression, and I have 693 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: a lot of respect for Sarah taking Christine to task. 694 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: I hope Christine listens to this episode. Sometimes it's hard 695 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: to fully grasp things while we're still inside of them, 696 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: the way a fish doesn't know water. Listening to this 697 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: conversation might afford her a more objective perspective at her 698 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: position in the space and the implications of such. Thanks 699 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: so much, Ashley, I agree with that, and I hope 700 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: it came across that I really was trying to sort 701 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: of help Christine understand the perspective people had about her 702 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: coverage and see that even if her intentions are correct, 703 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: if her impact is different than what she intends, that's 704 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,760 Speaker 1: important to recognize and then reassess and be self aware about. 705 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if we got there, but hopefully if 706 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: she listens to the episode, we do. Finally, we got 707 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: an email from Doug Ratcliffe that says, in part, I'm 708 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 1: not always great at articulating things, but I'll try to 709 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: explain my biggest takeaway from this interview. I'm going to 710 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: cheat and use something Sarah always says, yes, and I 711 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 1: feel like Christine could use a little yes and yes. 712 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: She is an accomplished journalist who has fought for women 713 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: to be seen in the past, and she could certainly 714 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: learn how to better navigate interviews with WNBA players while 715 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 1: not perpetuating tropes that feed trolls. Lord knows the trolls 716 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: are willing and waiting to pounce. It seemed to me 717 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 1: that Christine was more interested in yes, but yes. These 718 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,240 Speaker 1: are the types of questions she has asked hundreds of times, 719 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 1: but it's not her fault people are reacting to them 720 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: the way that they are. It's almost like she felt 721 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: like her past experiences were more important than the present reactions. 722 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 1: I think it's fair to ask people, all people, to 723 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 1: learn how to navigate in new spaces. Christine is new 724 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: to covering the league, and the attention the WNBA has 725 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: received this year is unprecedented. What isn't new here are 726 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 1: the issues plaguing the league, racism, misogyny, homophobia, et cetera, 727 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 1: and all journalists covering the sport should be mindful in 728 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 1: their questioning because of these issues. Extremely well said, Doug. 729 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 1: Do you want to write for the show, give us 730 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: a call, Thank you for listening, Thank you for your input. 731 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: Really well said, and thank you to everyone who chimed in, 732 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 1: and we're going to keep talking about it. I know 733 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: we've got some more thoughts to share amongst ourselves coming 734 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: up next week. We love that you're listening, and we 735 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 1: always want you to get in the game every day too, 736 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: So here's our good gameplay of the day. Keep those 737 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: thoughts coming on that interview, but also don't miss the 738 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 1: electric game threes in the WNBA tonight and the games 739 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: on Sunday sure to be some great ball. 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You're just walking the dog or in 750 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 1: line getting coffee, all smiles and good mornings, and then 751 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:22,959 Speaker 1: you hop in the car or get back to the house, 752 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: catch sight of the ZiT stickers dotting your face and 753 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: wonder just how many people notice them? Not to mention like, 754 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,760 Speaker 1: isn't there an age where you're supposed to stop getting zits? 755 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,280 Speaker 1: Come on, bro, now it's your turn. Rate and review. 756 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, slices, have a great weekend. Good Game, Lisa, 757 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 1: Good Game, Shimmy you coaches who prey on their players 758 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: and organizations who fail to hold them accountable. 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