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Speaker 4: Dean Blandino coming up tomorrow and so cannot wait to

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Speaker 4: find out how many picks Pete Prisco got wrong that

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Speaker 4: he will not take accountability for because he was on

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Speaker 4: the right side of it, which I can listen. I'm

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Speaker 4: with him. I had a couple of those yesterday, so

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Speaker 4: we will have that for you. Not actually, I'll say this,

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Speaker 4: Bengals minus five, that's on.

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Speaker 1: You, dude, Yeah, that's on. They always struggle against Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why you thought that was gonna a

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Speaker 1: lay up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was frustrating the Falcons getting the point and

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Speaker 4: a half.

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Speaker 5: That was frustrating.

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Speaker 2: Cleveland didn't look that bad though.

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Speaker 1: No, they're a good team. They just if they play

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Speaker 1: concert competently at the quarterback spot. I had a buddy

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Speaker 1: who was on the other side of that Atlanta game,

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Speaker 1: so obviously that was a nice, nice ending, nice ending

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Speaker 4: Well, you got a buddy who was on the other

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Speaker 4: side with the Falcons, so not a nice Well.

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Speaker 1: This buddy could probably put this other buddy in a

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Speaker 1: locker if you wanted to. You know, I don't think

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Speaker 1: wagon probably could do that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I don't think he would. He would, No,

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Speaker 5: my buddy too.

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Speaker 2: Until it goes down, then you realize where the alliances are. Bro. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: blood's thicker than water, my guy, Just telling your teammates

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Speaker 1: That until they're not, which is where we really get

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Speaker 1: concerned by with things down in Miami. Tyreek kulsms a

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Speaker 1: I know you probably watched your commando's play the Giants.

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Speaker 1: Is it me? What's going on with Malik neighbors Like

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Speaker 1: he seems already visibly frustrated. I get it, offensively, they

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Speaker 2: Am I wrong? I feel like Dave Ball is in

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Speaker 2: trouble man Like I always hear how good of a

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Speaker 2: And I don't. I don't feel like, you know, I

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Speaker 2: that's why. And that's probably and I get it, but

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Speaker 2: I feel like they're they're in a bad situation, a

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Speaker 2: need to see Russell Wilson one more time to realize

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Speaker 2: it's his frustration based off of not having uh Dart

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, I know this. I mean,

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Speaker 1: could be a lot of things that add up to

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Speaker 1: which you know, the quarterback getting bench will happen before

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Speaker 1: a head coach getting fired, But the reality is there's

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Speaker 1: other things that could lead to it that are completely

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Speaker 1: out of the head coach or the quarterback's hands. You know,

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Speaker 1: as far as if the offensive line has improved, if defensively,

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Speaker 1: you know, they struggled to get off the field on

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Speaker 1: third down. There's just a number of things you can

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Speaker 1: point to. Now, I didn't think that the Giants defense

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Speaker 1: So I don't know. It's it's a tough call because

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Speaker 1: it is week one. You called for, like tempering emotions

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Speaker 1: after week one. This is one where I'm like, all right,

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Speaker 1: that wasn't the performance I thought we're gonna get from

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Speaker 1: the Giants. Let's see what things look like weeks two

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Speaker 1: Is that fair?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Yeah, okay, I'm okay with that. I'm okay with that.

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Speaker 2: I think guys are on the hot sea. I think

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Speaker 2: I think some coaches and some situations are more volatile

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Speaker 2: like the Giant situation is a more volatile situation. I

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Speaker 2: that should be the approach. It really should. I one

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Speaker 4: Brian da Ball was of course asked about the Russell

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Look, we're gonna get home, Pat, We're gonna look at

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Speaker 7: our game collected, what we all got to do better.

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Speaker 5: Is it safe to say that Russell is the leaders starter?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean we're just right here. After the game,

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Speaker 2: I got confidence run.

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Speaker 1: We got to do better around overall, coaches, players, around everybody.

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Speaker 2: So you know we'll get focused and ready to go on.

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Speaker 5: Della, in fairness, you're not answering. This sounds like you're

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Speaker 2: Well, we're talking about after every game. I got confidence

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Speaker 2: in russ.

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Speaker 1: So there was a Pat Leonard by the way, he's

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Speaker 1: just you know, he's a good dude, but he's really

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Speaker 4: There was a report out that Jackson Dart. Jackson Dart

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Speaker 1: Well, the hardest thing to do when you're an organization

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Speaker 1: is try to set yourself up for the short term

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Speaker 1: and long term. Because you drafted Jackson Dart after you

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Speaker 1: the future. Well, the problem is the guy for the

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Speaker 1: And the other issue is if you start getting off

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Speaker 1: they're trying to protect that because I'm sure the Giants

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Speaker 1: from their ownership down is looking at Jackson Dart saying, yes,

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Speaker 1: he had a good preseason, but we all know the

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Speaker 1: not going to thrust them into that. That's not what's

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Speaker 2: They didn't look like they were competitive towards the towards

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Speaker 2: the Commanders. I almost called him team and and I

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Speaker 2: know it's the first game out, and as you mentioned

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Speaker 2: earlier in the show, sucks to get into a divisional

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Speaker 2: a divisional game first game out.

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Speaker 1: I was a playoff team too, you know, yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean one game away from the Super Bowl by apps,

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Speaker 2: you know, by you know, all estimations of it. But

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Speaker 2: I just I think looking at Dallas, I think Dallas

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Speaker 2: think that now Dallas actually that Dallas actually looked Dallas

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Speaker 2: looked all right, they looked all right, they looked all right.

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Speaker 2: They didn't they didn't look they didn't look horrible. But

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Speaker 2: I think they're going to be trashed. I think they

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Speaker 2: are going to fall off. I don't know that. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I gave the Giants, Giants a very very positive prognosis,

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Speaker 2: but that definitely didn't seem to be the case on

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Speaker 2: to me it's going to be a two team race

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Speaker 2: in the NFC East. I don't I don't see Dallas.

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Speaker 2: I just don't see Dallas being able to contend with

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Speaker 1: I just don't look good, man.

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Speaker 2: They did look pretty good. They they didn't look bad.

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Speaker 2: But they're Dallas. They're Dallas, and they'll find a way

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Speaker 4: We're going to talk with our resident red ass, the

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Speaker 2: Hey, what's up everybody? It's me three time pro bowler

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Speaker 2: LeVar Arrington, and I couldn't be more excited to announce

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Speaker 5: Here on this Monday morning with another.

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Speaker 4: Right now, though, we welcome in the one and only

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Speaker 5: If you want the smoke on.

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Speaker 4: Social media, you can get it at Prisco, CBS on X. Pete,

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Speaker 4: Good morning, Happy Monday.

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Speaker 6: What's up guys?

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Speaker 2: Are you hey, Petete?

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Speaker 6: Good weekend, good weekend of football.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Pete, we were actually waiting for you

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Speaker 2: They all played. They all played. They all played, Pete.

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Speaker 6: They all play. Never forget it.

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Speaker 2: And the side of that, Bet Pete, Yeah, what that?

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Speaker 2: What that were on? You were on the right side

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Speaker 2: of that prediction, bet, Pete.

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Speaker 6: And I liked my prediction for the Super Bowl too

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Speaker 2: I mean, what is Buffalo over Green Bay? Yeah, that's

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Speaker 6: That is fantastic last night it was And how do

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Speaker 1: It bothered me when Buffalo did it at the time,

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Speaker 1: So why not why don't do that? Why don't you

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean, I'm ripping it for it. I thought

437
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Speaker 6: I thought the decision to when you when you kicked

438
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Speaker 6: the extra point, and then there you went for two

439
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Speaker 6: with stupid two, and so you end up chasing it

440
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Speaker 6: the whole time.

441
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Speaker 1: Think, well, they they didn't do that in the fourth

442
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Speaker 1: quarter though they scored the touchdown, they kicked the pat

443
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Speaker 1: so they were only down one score. But I guess

444
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Speaker 1: the point is like, if you don't get that two

445
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Speaker 1: point conversion, now it's a two score game or two

446
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Speaker 1: possession game. I should say.

447
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Speaker 6: Which is right, And I don't understand that. And everybody

448
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Speaker 6: always says, well, the analytics say you should do this, this,

449
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 6: and this. You ended up chasing yourself. You chase your tail,

450
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Speaker 6: and just do it the right do it the right way.

451
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Speaker 6: And you know, the analytics supposedly say the Ravens should

452
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Speaker 6: have gone for it on fourth and three at the

453
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Speaker 6: end of the game. What seriously, I mean, you go,

454
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Speaker 6: you don't get this air and you kick a field

455
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Speaker 6: goal and the game's over. So that would have been

456
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Speaker 6: I mean, they do play defense in this league, you

457
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Speaker 6: know there are, or at least you think they can.

458
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Speaker 6: They didn't in the last quarter of that game. But

459
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Speaker 6: I just think sometimes we get too caught up. And

460
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Speaker 6: here's the other thing about the analytics. I say it

461
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Speaker 6: all the time. Every game is not the same, every

462
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Speaker 6: play is not the same, every team is not the same.

463
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Speaker 6: So the analytics, you can't throw a blanket blanket analytics

464
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Speaker 6: out there and say, oh, look this it's fourth and three,

465
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Speaker 6: as you go for it, what if your left tackle

466
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Speaker 6: third right?

467
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I go.

468
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Speaker 6: But so I thought they ended up chasing it the

469
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Speaker 6: whole time, and that they could have backfired on them.

470
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Speaker 6: They got it looked they got a miracle win because

471
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Speaker 6: and it didn't backfire on them, But it was the

472
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Speaker 6: wrong I always think it's the wrong decision.

473
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Speaker 2: Let me ask you about the I mean, we saw

474
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Speaker 2: a lot of games that there were moments that shifted

475
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Speaker 2: the game. I mean the fumble on the kickoff and

476
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Speaker 2: the Jets Steelers game, you know, the catch by the

477
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Speaker 2: receiver the tight end, and the Niners game. We just

478
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Speaker 2: talked about the situation and the Bills game. I mean

479
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 2: in week one, in week one? How I mean, especially

480
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Speaker 2: with the way preseasons go. Now, Pete, how much do

481
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Speaker 2: you place in terms of if you think a team

482
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Speaker 2: is good or if a team isn't so good in

483
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Speaker 2: week one? I mean, can you definitively in your mind

484
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Speaker 2: see a team during Week one and say, yep, they're

485
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Speaker 2: the one. I mean you did just say, I said

486
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Speaker 2: Buffalo and Green Bay, So maybe you already answered the question.

487
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Speaker 2: But how possible is that or how how how how

488
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Speaker 2: plausible is it to say you can see how good

489
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Speaker 2: a team is in week one of the season.

490
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Speaker 6: Well, you have an idea going in, but I think

491
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Speaker 6: you know the first month of the season is for

492
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Speaker 6: feeling things out. I don't think you can really say

493
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Speaker 6: definitively that somebody is a really good team until you

494
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Speaker 6: get into mid October.

495
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Speaker 2: That's me.

496
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Speaker 6: That's always been my feeling on it. I mean, yeah,

497
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Speaker 6: you got some teams.

498
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Speaker 1: That play with Baltimore and Buffalo are really good teams.

499
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Speaker 6: They are Okay, you know, no, but you saw.

500
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Speaker 1: I'm all easy LeVar question.

501
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Speaker 2: Hey, but c is always instigating and protagonist. All right,

502
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Speaker 2: So so I'm with you for two men. It's good good.

503
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Speaker 6: Oh, he's instigating, of course he is. But but no,

504
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 6: you have an idea who's good. But I'm saying, like, okay,

505
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Speaker 6: say there's a team that looks good in the first

506
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Speaker 6: two weeks of the season, and you have in the

507
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 6: back of your head you go, I'm not so sure

508
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 6: they really are that good. We can't really decide if

509
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 6: they are until mid October. I will say this one

510
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:23,479
Speaker 6: thing you notice, aside from Allen, I think Geno, Smith,

511
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 6: Herbert and so we didn't. There aren't a lot of

512
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 6: big passing games anymore early in the season. And I

513
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 6: think that's because you know how teams play that off

514
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 6: coverage all the time now and they make you be patient. Yeah, yeah,

515
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:37,959
Speaker 6: they play they make you be patient, and a lot

516
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 6: of these quarterbacks don't like to be patient. And I

517
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 6: think it's kind of changed the big numbers in the

518
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Speaker 6: passing game. And I don't you know, I don't know

519
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 6: if that's going to change going forward or if it

520
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 6: can change, but I think that's something to keep an

521
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Speaker 6: eye on. Is is all the all the teams that

522
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 6: don't really you know, throw the football, and we're getting

523
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 6: back to maybe teams running the ball. You saw Henry

524
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 6: Travis etn had a big day, you know, so I

525
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 6: wonder if that's going to kind of ease back a

526
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 6: little bit as we get throughout the season. But early

527
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 6: in the season he didn't see a lot of passing numbers.

528
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Speaker 6: And Brady, I think in college football for your guys

529
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 6: over there, they're not doing it either. They're not putting

530
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Speaker 6: up big passing numbers either.

531
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Speaker 1: Well, it depends on what you're talking about. I mean,

532
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 1: I don't know that i'd use Iowa, iways stay where

533
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 1: I was at this weekend as.

534
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Speaker 2: An indication of that.

535
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: But I do want to ask a more general question,

536
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 1: and not to skip over your johnas because I think

537
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: you were up, but which team did you come away

538
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 1: after Week one? More optimistic about And which team did

539
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: you come away after Week one a little bit like, oh,

540
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: that could be a problem this year.

541
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Speaker 6: Well, more optimistic about the Packers than I was, and

542
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 6: I thought they would be a super Bowl team. But

543
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Speaker 6: I okay, well, here's why I thought they'd be a

544
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 6: super Bowl team before they got Parsons, But in large

545
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Speaker 6: part because I thought a lot of young players are

546
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 6: going to take their game up. I think you saw

547
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 6: Van Ness improve all summer and he showed it in

548
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Speaker 6: the game. I think Edred Cooper is going to be

549
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 6: a star, and we saw that in the game. So

550
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 6: a lot of those younger players on that team before Parsons,

551
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 6: I thought they were going to take the net. Wyatt played,

552
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 6: made some big plays another guy. So you saw young

553
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 6: players taking steps forward and that's usually a sign of

554
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 6: a team that's going to be better. So they were

555
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 6: better on defense even with Parsons than I thought they

556
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 6: were going to be. So that's a good side. And

557
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 6: then a team that concerns me more so than I

558
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 6: thought that would be concerned about, probably the Texans, in

559
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 6: large part because of the offensive line. I don't think

560
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 6: they really solved it, and they've addressed it and they've

561
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 6: made it. And yes they had to adjust a little

562
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 6: bit yesterday when the right guard who ed Ingram was

563
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 6: supposed to start at right guard didn't play, so they

564
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 6: moved guys around. But it's not like ed Ingram is,

565
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 6: you know, Zach Martin in his prime either. He's not

566
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 6: a very good player. So I think their offensive line

567
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 6: is going to be a problem for the Texans, and

568
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 6: it's going to be a problem for CJ Strout all

569
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 6: season long.

570
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Speaker 4: All right, Pete, risk going out something for you, all right.

571
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 4: So the Denver Broncos are up twenty to twelve. Yeah,

572
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 4: it's a fourth and eight at the Titans thirty six

573
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 4: yard line with one oh four left, and Sean Payton

574
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 4: goes for it and bow Nicks throws deep.

575
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Speaker 5: What the hell was that?

576
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 6: I have no We were sitting there in the green

577
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 6: room watching that, and I'm like, what the hell is

578
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 6: he doing? I mean, it made no There's of all

579
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 6: the things you could possibly do in that scenario, that

580
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 6: one made no sense zero.

581
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 5: I mean, try the field goal or punted down right

582
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 5: and pin deep.

583
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 6: If you try the field goal in altitude that's like

584
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 6: ten yards less. I mean, you got to kick the

585
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 6: field goal to go up eleven in that situation, I'm

586
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 6: with you, and if you miss the field goal, then okay,

587
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 6: then they're at the spot where you just try to

588
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 6: hit a shot down the field. It made no sense

589
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 6: to me. And by the way, I haven't watched the

590
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 6: all twenty two of that, but it looks like he

591
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 6: picked the wrong guy because the other guy crossing the

592
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 6: field is wide wide open.

593
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 2: Yep.

594
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, so you know, and you know, if you said

595
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 6: that to Sean Payton said, well, look, this guy's wide open.

596
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 6: He picked the wrong guy. Well he's still got to

597
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 6: hit the pack and pick the right guy and the

598
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 6: whole deal.

599
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 2: I'm with you.

600
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 6: That was a bad decision and you know, it could

601
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 6: have backfired on him. It didn't. They got away with it.

602
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 6: But kicked the field goal there and go up eleven.

603
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 6: It made no sense.

604
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 2: Pete. Uh did you see the block that the tight

605
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 2: end of the Jacksonville Jaguars made on on the run

606
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 2: play Like it was like kind of like a counter

607
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 2: power or something like that.

608
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, he blasted the guy.

609
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 2: Did you like that? I mean that that was Penn Stater.

610
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 2: I just figured bring it up and make that final

611
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 2: for you.

612
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 6: Hey, let me tell you something that penicator is a

613
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 6: damn football player. He's a really he's a really good

614
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 6: football player because he's he's going to be a pass

615
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 6: catching guy. He had fifty I think he had fifty something.

616
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: Strange.

617
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, and he's one of the best. He's one of

618
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 6: the best.

619
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Speaker 2: If you shut up, Yeah, it took you while.

620
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, and he's going to be he's he's got one

621
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 6: of the best.

622
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 2: Let the man answered the question to you, go ahead, Pete, Well,

623
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 2: he's kind on our party, Like, why is he interrupting

624
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 2: us all the time? Man, Cam and you have a conversation.

625
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 6: Uh, yes, we can, LeVar, we can.

626
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,959
Speaker 2: Let's who is this guy? Man, let's go put him

627
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 2: in the corner.

628
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: Man like, oh, come on, yeah.

629
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead, go ahead, finished.

630
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 6: Okay, but LaVar LeVar, Yes, he's a guy they're expecting.

631
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 6: They're expecting really big things from him in the passing.

632
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 6: But more than that, he's one of the best blocking

633
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 6: tight ends in the league and he's been there for

634
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 6: for a couple of years. And that was one. But

635
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,719
Speaker 6: he also he also had the block on etn seventy

636
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 6: yard run where he kicked out the guy too. So yeah,

637
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 6: that's it. I'll tell you what he keep an eye

638
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 6: on him is the guy that could be in the

639
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 6: mix for catching sixty passes and and maybe having six

640
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 6: sixty seven touchdowns. But more than that, he's just a

641
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 6: really bruising blocker of the run.

642
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 2: M got one for you.

643
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: And then and then just is going to clean it up.

644
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: And this is about another Penn state I want to

645
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: ask you about. I'm just kidding you. Don't let's go

646
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: to the Let's let's go to met Life, Rogers, the Jets, Fields.

647
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: I know you're a big Rogers fan. I want to

648
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: say you're a little pessimistic though about him joining the Steelers.

649
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: He just had arguably the greatest debut we've ever seen

650
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: for a quarterback with a new team starting the season.

651
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: How do you feel about Rogers in this one? But

652
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: also how'd you feel about Justin Fields?

653
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 2: Well?

654
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 6: I wasn't pessimistic about Rogers. I was pessimistic more so

655
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 6: about the Mealer.

656
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Speaker 1: Than the whole.

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00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 6: No, I wasn't because I'm the one.

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Speaker 1: You were on the wrong side of that one. Let's

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Speaker 1: just put it that way. Good. No, I wasn't.

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00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 6: I was the one pre I preached all summer. I said,

661
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 6: he's the last eight games of the season. He played

662
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 6: like Aaron Rodgers last year, and he had more touchdown passes.

663
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 6: I've said this on the show than Herbert and Mahomes.

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Speaker 6: And he had the same number of touchdown passes as

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Speaker 6: Alan last year. So you're wrong, Brady. You're trying to.

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Speaker 1: Why they bought him, then, Pete, why they brought him

667
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: when he comes back to met Life.

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00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 6: Because they everybody in New York nasty. Of course they're

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00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 6: going to pool them. I mean, why not. They would

670
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 6: boom me if they had any chance. He probably throws stuff.

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00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 8: At Yes, we got I and by the way, and

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00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 8: by the way, Rogers.

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Speaker 6: Rogers comments after the game were just vintage, by the way,

674
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 6: a little needle at him and anything I could play,

675
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 6: And I came in and showed him I play. I

676
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 6: love that. I love the fact that he did that.

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Speaker 2: He was good.

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Speaker 6: You know, look, it wasn't great, he didn't There weren't

679
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 6: a lot of passes going down the field, but it

680
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 6: was darn good for him in this first game for

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Speaker 6: the Steelers. And as far as on the other side feels,

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00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 6: it's a good thing he really did. I didn't like

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00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 6: the two point play decision. I mean he's sown in

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00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 6: the triple coverage.

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00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 2: That was.

686
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 6: Get him on the perimeter, get him on the perimeter,

687
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 6: let him use his legs a little bit. I didn't

688
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 6: like that call at all. But all in all, I

689
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 6: thought Fields was okay, you know, better than okay, And

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00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 6: I thought Rogers was good and then you know, but

691
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 6: as good as he was, it took the sixty yard

692
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 6: field goal to win the game. I mean, that's not

693
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 6: like he you know, went up and down the.

694
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 2: Field on him and let him out.

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Speaker 6: But it was good for Rogers. And by the way

696
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 6: Brady putting words in my mouth, I never said that

697
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 6: about Rogers. I said the Steelers. The Steelers got to

698
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 6: run the ball better than they have and they got

699
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 6: to play better.

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00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, very pessimistic about Rogers, the Steelers the whole. I

701
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: trust me. I remember this because you were You and

702
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: I were both emphatic that things he was going to

703
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: turn things around New York. It didn't happen. And now

704
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: you're kind of like, I mean, you guys have to understand.

705
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: For people don't know. I worked with Pete for a

706
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: long time. Pete would gush about Aaron Rodgers. He would

707
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: pick Aaron Rodgers and the Green Bay Packers win the

708
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, like for like five years straight, because he's

709
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: being like, they got Rogers, they got Rogers, they got Rogers,

710
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: like every year he'd say the same thing. And this

711
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: was the first time where I really didn't hear you

712
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: gushing about him joining the Steelers on what their chances

713
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: would be or how I would elevate their chances.

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00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 6: Well, I thought he would play well. I just didn't

715
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 6: think the Steelers were good enough. How's that? And now,

716
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 6: the way I watched them on the other day, they

717
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 6: still weren't great on defense and Steelers and they still

718
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 6: art consistently running the ball, So you know, there's still

719
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 6: even though they won that game, there's still questions about that.

720
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 6: But he played well, and I thought he would play

721
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 6: well because he's Aaron Rodgers.

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00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 5: Hey, Pete, what's the question?

723
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 2: Pete?

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00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 4: What's uh? What's the game you lost yesterday that you

725
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 4: were on the right side of.

726
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 5: Still even though you.

727
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 7: Lost, well, anybody, and I picked them. I picked the Bills,

728
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 7: So I think that's a gift. I'll take that gift, okay.

729
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 6: Because I picked the Bills, it was, and you had

730
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 6: no business yet if you.

731
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 1: Had to answer to answer the question, though, Pete, what

732
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 1: I talking about? When you got right?

733
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 6: I'm trying to think which one did?

734
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: I come on, I beat you the past two years

735
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: of day, so it's got to be.

736
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 2: One, okay.

737
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 6: I had to say the Saints.

738
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 5: You're on the right side.

739
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 6: Of the shots into the end zone to go to overtime,

740
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 6: are you kid?

741
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 5: You bet the Saints?

742
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 2: No?

743
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 6: I had the Saint. I picked the Saints as one

744
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 6: of my picks. Why are you laughing at Why are

745
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 6: you laughing at that? They had? They were think I

746
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 6: had the ball. He should have caught the ball in

747
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 6: the end zone.

748
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 5: It was the line six? Was it six?

749
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:24,959
Speaker 4: In that game?

750
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 6: Yeah? Six?

751
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 5: And so you were on the right side of that.

752
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: But you they were lucky to be in that game.

753
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: At the end of it, they're getting their asses kicked

754
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: for the in the first half, first three quarters.

755
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 6: Brady, what was happening at the end of the game?

756
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 6: He had four shots into the end zone at the

757
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 6: end of the game. One of them was in the

758
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 6: guy's hands go to over.

759
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: So you're so you're telling me you were you were

760
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 1: on the wrong side of that one.

761
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 6: No, I was on the right side of that one side.

762
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: Excuse me.

763
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 2: I had, but you're the best.

764
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: You're the best.

765
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 6: We used to do our pic show you. You beat

766
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 6: me one year.

767
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: I beat No, you never beat me, Pete, I beat

768
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: you ever single year. You and Can just took els

769
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: the entire last two years.

770
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 6: I'm off to a great start. I think I went

771
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 6: eleven and eleven and four so far with my pick.

772
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 2: Wow.

773
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: How about that? Yeah, that's pretty good, Pete.

774
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 6: And and and that was on the right side the same.

775
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 5: To make that twelve wins?

776
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 2: Uh.

777
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 5: Pete always fun. Get him on X at.

778
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 4: Prisco, CBS Senior NFL columnist for CBS Sports, CBS Sports

779
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 4: h Q analyst here on f SR.

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00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 2: Thanks Pete Brady, I beat you.

781
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 1: Did not stoplying, man.

782
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 5: We almost got him to drop an S bomb on

783
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 5: the air. It was Mondays with him.

784
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:49,880
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Speaker 3: Please might smell a little fun case what does that?

809
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 2: Sounds incredible?

810
00:37:58,239 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: But they're still good?

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00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 3: Find out what's lock Lee?

812
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 5: All right?

813
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 2: Lap?

814
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 5: What do we got?

815
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 1: All right?

816
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:07,959
Speaker 5: Fellas we got Monday Night Football Tonight?

817
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 9: Vikings at the Bears and the Vikings are a point

818
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 9: and a half favorite on the road.

819
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 5: Who do you guys got tonight?

820
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: Bears please.

821
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 2: Knocks locks, Vikings will cover sticks picks.

822
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with LeVar on this one, my big

823
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: bro going with the Vikings.

824
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 9: Take that Quinn's picks, easy, Lee, Why do.

825
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 5: You sound like that? I don't know.

826
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: What do you mean? Oh gosh, you know what you mean?

827
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: Oh gods distracted?

828
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:59,959
Speaker 2: Oh what guys?

829
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 5: Did you see that Lamar Jackson got hit on the

830
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 5: head and then shoved a fan. Do you think there

831
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 5: might be some discipline that comes down to Lamaro?

832
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:11,240
Speaker 1: This is the fan on the fan. Don't touch a player,

833
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: and if you do, you should expect something to come

834
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: back that.

835
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 2: Clapping them though he was slapping there.

836
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,919
Speaker 1: Pushing him and all that stuff. They're lucky he didn't

837
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 1: do more.

838
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 4: I just I don't Why would you think that was okay?

839
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 4: And he did it to two players.

840
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: He did at the two of them.

841
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 5: That's okay?

842
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 2: Hey though, for real though, that's coming out on the

843
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 2: right side of a bet. Like talk about being able

844
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 2: to say ice sudden, DeAndre Hopkins and Lamar Jackson all

845
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 2: at one time, like one time Boom Sunday.

846
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 5: Did he get kicked out? He should have got knocked out.

847
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 2: I don't think he did.

848
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know.

849
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 2: No harm, no foul. Honestly, I don't think there should

850
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:56,240
Speaker 2: be a need.

851
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 4: No harm, no foul either way, should throw them down

852
00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 4: Niagara Falls.

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00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: Which side waters of the Canadian side?

854
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 5: Canadian?

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00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:10,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's some really fast water, man, Yeah, super

856
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Speaker 2: fast