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Speaker 1: Welcome to Everybody Today Tuesday edition of Texans All Access

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Speaker 1: from the Hunday Texans Radio Studio. I am not Deep City.

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Speaker 1: I am John Harris, DPA, and yes, Mark DP and

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Speaker 1: I traded days. This is the date and switch. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I thought I was in here doing a show with DP,

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Speaker 1: and of a sudden it's you. I know, it's it's

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Speaker 1: more fun to do a show with DP. I understand.

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Speaker 1: But we traded days. So she will have Friday and

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Speaker 1: I have Tuesday, and so we're gonna talk Texans. How

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Speaker 1: about that? You know everyone in the building and I'm

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Speaker 1: sure everyone out. Actually, I've gotten numerous texts about this,

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Speaker 1: not texts messages. Yeah, you know, you have to say

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Speaker 1: texting versus messaging, because it's people who get in touch

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Speaker 1: with me via Facebook and they're asking me when the

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Speaker 1: first Food Rutgers Texans Players show is. Yeah, and that's

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Speaker 1: gonna be September third at Food Rutgers fifty nine and Wesleyans.

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Speaker 1: You know where the player is yet that's where it's

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Speaker 1: tb D. But I've spoken to numerous players who have

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Speaker 1: verbally agreed verbally agreed to appear on the show, and

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Speaker 1: it's some of our favorites. Okay, Whitney said yes, DJ

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Speaker 1: DJ Dunney otherwise known as Brandon Dunne actually most notably

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Speaker 1: Brandon Dunne and Jonathan Joseph, who has also said he

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Speaker 1: would join us once again on Texans Monday Monday morning.

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Speaker 1: So little brief announcement about that. Very cool. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: like that. Speaking of Texas players, we're gonna hear from

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Speaker 1: Vincent Smith later in the show and later in the show,

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Speaker 1: and I want to get your thoughts on this. A

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Speaker 1: voice of the Texans Drew came up with this idea

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Speaker 1: and said, Okay, you can add one Texans player in

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Speaker 1: history and retired a retired player, okay, and from a

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Speaker 1: particular season. Okay, Oh, you get that player's caliber played right,

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Speaker 1: So like you could add Brian Cushing two thousand and

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Speaker 1: nine to this defense if you wanted to, if you

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Speaker 1: want it to. Jeff Posey two thousand and two. I

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Speaker 1: just completely threw you off off eight sacks. Oh wow,

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Speaker 1: he was the leading sack man. He was the guy

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Speaker 1: who was slated to become an unrestricted free agent. And

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Speaker 1: this is back in the days where you didn't have

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Speaker 1: that quote legal tampering period and at midnight and one

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Speaker 1: minute a deal was announced with the Buffalo Bills. So

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Speaker 1: they negotiated very quickly once free agency became legal, and

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Speaker 1: he was gone to Western New York. Well, that all

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Speaker 1: came to a head with Albert Haynesworth, who hopefully is

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Speaker 1: going to find a new kidney he has. You know,

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Speaker 1: I read that, yeah, and I was thinking if I

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Speaker 1: had a kidney, now, you know, I honestly I really

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Speaker 1: feel like if I had a kidney that would fit him. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I would say, all right, you know, if I could

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Speaker 1: help somebody like that, absolutely, you only need one right now.

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Speaker 1: If that one goes bad, then you're a little little

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Speaker 1: bit of trouble. Well it seems maybe a lot. Albertson's

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Speaker 1: some trouble. So you would say, Jeff Posey two thousand

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Speaker 1: and two. Yeah, now I'm kidding Johnny. I mean I

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Speaker 1: like Jeff Posey two thousand and two. I don't really

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Speaker 1: know Jeff. All right, So I get any defensive player

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Speaker 1: for the defense. See, I feel like, you know, Ryan

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Speaker 1: Cushing two thousand and nine was ridiculously great, right, but

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Speaker 1: you have Zach and B. But I got Zach, and

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Speaker 1: I got B mac cole. I got Cole coming off

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Speaker 1: the sideline. I got a lot of options there at backer.

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Speaker 1: So am I really gonna go there? Don't I go

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Speaker 1: right to the secondary? Gonna go to Aaron Glen two

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Speaker 1: thousand and two, he went to the Pro Bowl. Isn't

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Speaker 1: that an obvious one? Kind of kind of? But I

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Speaker 1: won a different direction. I'm missing something. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to give anything up. Aaron Glenn's name is

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Speaker 1: mentioned in the lab, and I mentioned another. I mentioned

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Speaker 1: another corner, Dante Robinson his rookie year two thousand and four.

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Speaker 1: Those are the two he had five picks. Well, we

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Speaker 1: added to We also added two other players. I remember mine.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember who Drew added. Oh yeah, I

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Speaker 1: know there are two other players we added to make

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Speaker 1: go Ryan's two thousand and what we got that as

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Speaker 1: a response on Twitter to Miko Ryan's But again back

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Speaker 1: to your point. But if you're taking any player, You've

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Speaker 1: I mean, is it worth it to add Antonio Smith

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Speaker 1: I mean absolutely, it's it's worth. It's worth the consideration.

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Speaker 1: the Ravens. You can't do that. Yeah, he can't do that.

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Speaker 1: Has to be that Texan season. There are a few names.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that Drew and I considered. One of them

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Speaker 1: that that we considered Mario Williams two thousand and nine

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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl and nine, because at that point he

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Speaker 1: had kind of okay, is he one year wonder? I

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Speaker 1: think you're kind of all right, he's consistent enough. He

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Speaker 1: needs to go to the Pro Bowl. H Mary Williams

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Speaker 1: name does get brought up. I added an original textan

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Speaker 1: That's all I'm gonna say. Gary Walker, God, dang it,

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Speaker 1: you've given it all away. Sorry, well, you gotta listen

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Speaker 1: to to our few. I'm sorry, I just give it

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Speaker 1: all spoiler alert. So that Mark show you've been wanting

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Speaker 1: to watch, here it is. Here's what happens everything, Big

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Speaker 1: Little Lies. I know a lot of people haven't watched

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Speaker 1: Sunday's episode. Watch do you watch that show? Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: I didn't watch season one, but my wife and my

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Speaker 1: no, no no, no, Big Little Lives comes on. We're watching

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Speaker 1: Big Little Lives. So I started watching season two and

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Speaker 1: there's a lot I don't like about it. I don't

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Speaker 1: like the kids storyline and everything like that. The street

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Speaker 1: They're they're all um, They're they're great actresses. They're great liars. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're great liars. So I didn't bring you into talking

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Speaker 1: to talk about the one Texans you would add from

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Speaker 1: History or Big Little Lives. But training camp is in

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Speaker 1: nine days. It feels like it can't get here fast enough.

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Speaker 1: And circle on your calendar every single day during training

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Speaker 1: Camp eight to ten. Texas Training Camp Live Market, I'll

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Speaker 1: matter whether we are in Houston or we are in

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Speaker 1: so you definitely want to check that on Sports Trade

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Speaker 1: six ten and do that. So as we get ready

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Speaker 1: by division. They did one for the Texans that I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna like, no, no, no, that's not it, but

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Speaker 1: they ask essentially, they have three questions, if you will

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Speaker 1: for each team, I want to get your thoughts how

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Speaker 1: you would answer these For the Houston Texans. Okay, Number

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Speaker 1: one ready, most important position battle? Oh battle, Now, not

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Speaker 1: position battle. Well, I think I think everyone's gonna look

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Speaker 1: and battle at that position. Like I've always said or

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Speaker 1: It might not be like, you know, a parade of

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Speaker 1: He's a better player now, and how much better remains

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Speaker 1: a lot of players. But between him, between Matt Khalil,

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Speaker 1: that position is one to focus. Is it a battle

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Speaker 1: as much as hey, I guess it is a battle.

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Speaker 1: and B he's got he's got something in the tank.

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Speaker 1: it plays out. I think there are a lot of options,

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Speaker 1: like I said, but I would say that that's that's

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Speaker 1: I mean, I hate to call out a battle, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's competition at that spot to see who gets to

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Speaker 1: newcomer slash player returning from injury to watch in training

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Speaker 1: guess they're doing this category because they want to apply

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Speaker 1: have a newcomer to watch, and some teams are gonna

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Speaker 1: have a player like Jimmy Garoppolo in San Francisco, like

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Speaker 1: we want to see what he Okay, give me give

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Speaker 1: me a newcomer that you're excited. Was Sean Gibson Okay,

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Speaker 1: an excellent one. I really want to see what he does.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we've been talking a lot about him. He

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Speaker 1: He's got to be able to hold that spot down. Johnny,

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Speaker 1: spoke to me, and that was the first time I

427
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Speaker 1: was on the left and he looked my way, so

428
00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,160
Speaker 1: I was opening through a purftball. It's interesting, you said,

429
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,719
Speaker 1: because what he said to us was he talked to

430
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Speaker 1: you and said, look, if we get this particular look,

431
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,840
Speaker 1: I'm coming to you. What does that mean to hear

432
00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,880
Speaker 1: that from him in that game? Such a huge game

433
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 1: for him to say I'm coming to you. Be ready?

434
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,200
Speaker 1: What was that like? Hearing that? Like I said, it

435
00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 1: was a confidence Booster. I'm like, okay, he trust me

436
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:57,920
Speaker 1: to make the play. I haven't had a lot of

437
00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,399
Speaker 1: plays this season. I haven't started a lot this season,

438
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 1: and he's trusting me to make this play. So moving forward,

439
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 1: I don't know it grows. So what has it been

440
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 1: like your whole life trying to correct people with the

441
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 1: spelling of your first name. I tell them to talk

442
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Speaker 1: to my mom on that one. My mom always said

443
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 1: people are will never you know, forget it, and they'll

444
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Speaker 1: say see my name and be like okay and and

445
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Speaker 1: never forget it. V y c I n t v

446
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Speaker 1: y n ci. Oh yeah, I'm sorry, yeah, even but

447
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 1: I don't have my readers on. I'm sorry, screwed it up.

448
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 1: I got Smith right though, when I don't know, did

449
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Speaker 1: you over the off seas? Did you get home? Did

450
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 1: you get back to Limestone? And when you go back

451
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,640
Speaker 1: to Limestone or how how do people treat you when

452
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 1: they see you on campus? So you now, oh, Vincent

453
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 1: Smith or is it just heync it like they've known

454
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Speaker 1: you along? What's it like when you go back? It's

455
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 1: a little bit of both. I was a pretty quiet

456
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,360
Speaker 1: person on campus, got out, didn't do much, and now

457
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 1: it's a little bit like, you know, all the young

458
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 1: guys freshman coming out the team to look at me like, um,

459
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,199
Speaker 1: something really special, and all my teammates I played well,

460
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just the boys kicking it with them

461
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,639
Speaker 1: saying guy. So it's a little bit of both, but

462
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 1: for the love definitely. All right. So you're in your

463
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 1: young twenties and last year a lot of guys started

464
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,439
Speaker 1: talking about the food here and the changes with the

465
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Speaker 1: diet and everything. How has it been for you as

466
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Speaker 1: a young man. Have you changed that already? Because a

467
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,919
Speaker 1: lot of guys talk about changing their diet dramatically when

468
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 1: they get into the league four or five, six years.

469
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 1: What have you done it has changed dramatically? Um? Lad?

470
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 1: You know he does a great job, Jacob. They're always honest.

471
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 1: So having my diet be correct right now is I

472
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 1: don't have to think twice about it. They're always honest.

473
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: And that's been easier transition than I thought it would be.

474
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Speaker 1: I just I just need to learn how to cook,

475
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 1: come home and do that. But other than that, it's

476
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,439
Speaker 1: I had to stay him. They take great care of us.

477
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 1: Get to go box, fill it up. They just go home.

478
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 1: So right, Yeah, that's the best way to what the

479
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 1: interns do here. Yeah, exactly, that's a smart thing to do.

480
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Speaker 1: I mean, at that point, that's what every adult male

481
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,040
Speaker 1: coming out of college has to learn how to to.

482
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 1: I mean, turning stove on off, make sure you do

483
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 1: all those things you gotta do. But do you feel

484
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: like do you feel it in your body? You feel

485
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 1: it change because of the sports performance stuff that you

486
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 1: guys go through. Do you feel that like, Man, I've

487
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,959
Speaker 1: been eating better and I'm feeling the impact of that. Yes,

488
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 1: this is the best my body's felt all of my

489
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 1: years playing football. I don't have any eggs or pains.

490
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I don't feel bad at all.

491
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 1: This is the best my buddies feel in my life.

492
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 1: I saw Vincent after the offseason was over. He was

493
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 1: still here. I think maybe been the last day or

494
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,119
Speaker 1: the day after, and he was still in the building.

495
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 1: I said, Missy, you're getting home for a little bit.

496
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 1: He said, yeah, not for long. I'm gonna go for

497
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,439
Speaker 1: baby just a little bit, see my family, and then

498
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be back here in Houston. And I love

499
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 1: when young players make that decision because I know that

500
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,440
Speaker 1: that sounds. It sounds weird to say. You know, yeah,

501
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 1: I'm glad they make that decision. But a lot of

502
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 1: guys they go off and they do they do their thing,

503
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 1: and they should. It's their break before they get ready

504
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:02,199
Speaker 1: for a long marathon like NFL season, and it is

505
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: long film study, practice, walk throughs, traveling games week after week,

506
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 1: long season, I mean training camp. My gosh, it feels

507
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 1: like it goes on forever in certain cases. But it's

508
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: a long season, so it's good for the guys to

509
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: get away for a little bit. And he said, yeah,

510
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 1: I'm going for a couple days and I'm coming back.

511
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 1: I'm staying focused on what I need to do. And

512
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 1: what he's done and what he did this offseason was

513
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 1: pretty impressive. And I think not having DeAndre Hopkins, not

514
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 1: having Will Fuller out on the field really in Deshaw

515
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: Watson's words, and he loved having Vincent Smith and Kekey

516
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 1: Qt out there to create that synergy, to have that

517
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: relationship with receivers. Because if Will and Will and DeAndre

518
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 1: out in the field, that's where de Shaun's gonna go.

519
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: I mean, they're top two guys. I think that's clear.

520
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: It's where he's gonna want to go with the football,

521
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 1: but finding that synergy, having the trust with Vincent, as

522
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 1: he mentioned in that game, and gets Philadelphia having the trust.

523
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Speaker 1: Hey vinn I'm coming to you. Man, be ready, and

524
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 1: he was and he made a huge play. So I

525
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: think Vincent had a tremendous offseason. You never say anything

526
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: really as a locker than Shaun Watson is going to

527
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 1: be starting quarterback for this team. And you know some

528
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: other guys that are gonna be locks in the roster,

529
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 1: and there aren't many of them. There's probably about five

530
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Speaker 1: that are locks, just no questions asked. There would be

531
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:17,959
Speaker 1: a lot of guys that you know are gonna make

532
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 1: the team, but there are locks. I feel very good

533
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: about what Vincent Smith brings this wide receiver corps as

534
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: wide receiver number four. I feel very very good about

535
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 1: what he's bringing and I'm really excited to see what

536
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: he's able to do. And I think he's gonna be

537
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 1: a really difficult test for this revamped secondary that we're

538
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 1: gonna see starting July twenty fifth out here at Houston

539
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: Methis Training Center. Can't wait if Vincent Smith is a

540
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 1: guy that I cannot wait to see. Now, what if

541
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: to help that defense. We could add one retired Texan

542
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: in his best year as a Texan. Mark tried to

543
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 1: give it away, but Drew and I went in the

544
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 1: lab to do that. We'll have that for you next

545
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 1: right here in Texas locksis each and every week Drew,

546
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 1: Dorty and I go in the lab. That's our podcast,

547
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: and it is catching on like wildfire. In fact, got

548
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: our friends red Box involved. How about that red Box

549
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: happy to be part of in the lab. That's pretty cool.

550
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,439
Speaker 1: So we like a geek out, and that's why we

551
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: call in the lab because we go in there and

552
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: we kind of mixed stuff together and see what happens

553
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 1: as a result. So we'll go in there and say, hey,

554
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: take this player off the Chiefs and put him on

555
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 1: the Texans. How much better are the Texans versus the Chiefs.

556
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: And we do those kind of things, things that you

557
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 1: really aren't going to ever do, but we like doing

558
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 1: them anyways. Take a former oiler, put them on the Texans.

559
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 1: I love stuff like that, always have and I think

560
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: Drew Doo's too, and so it makes for a really

561
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: good podcast. And we appreciate everybody that is involved in

562
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: the podcast, which is me and Drew and of course,

563
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: our podcast team, Adolf Leabwitz does a great job getting

564
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 1: all of that up there for you. Now this week, well,

565
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: I'll let Drew explain what we're gonna do. What we're

566
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: gonna talk about today is this is a this is

567
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 1: a true in the Lab, a vintage in the Lab.

568
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: We don't have too many more opportunities to do this

569
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 1: because of the season's about to be here right basically

570
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: next week. It's it's coming, so kind of as a

571
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: last little mini hurrah, we're gonna go and do this.

572
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: We are going to pluck one former Texan from one season,

573
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: meaning um, for example, John Basting from two thousand and nine.

574
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Speaker 1: I don't think I'm gonna choose I know I'm not

575
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: gonna choosehim, and I doubt you're gonna choose him. Or oh,

576
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: how about Chad Stanley from two thousands. I don't think

577
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna choose him either. No, I don't think so,

578
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: but you can choot. It cannot be any any guy

579
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: that's currently playing, so you can't have to Jj Watts

580
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: on the team, but it's from the defense, and you're

581
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: gonna add him to this current defense to help it

582
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,479
Speaker 1: out and make it better. And we're gonna have fun

583
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 1: because you know, in the past, we've redrafted the two

584
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 1: thousand and seven draft and the two thousand and three drafting,

585
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 1: right instead of picking this guy, you picked this guy,

586
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: and we do stuff like this. We've add added former

587
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 1: oilers to current Texans teams. So what we're gonna do

588
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: is add a former Texans defender. And it could be

589
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: a guy who only had like one great season and

590
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: you're plucking him into this defense, plugging him into this

591
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,959
Speaker 1: defense and letting it rip. Youre ready, I'm ready, all right,

592
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: I'm we're gonna start with you. Oh I get to start? Yeah, okay.

593
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: So it can be a player that's already on the team, correct, right,

594
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: Like you can't have Jonathan Joseph from two thousand and eleven,

595
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: it would be an awesome or JJ Watt from two

596
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: thousand and four. Yea, a retired player. I got one, okay,

597
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: right off the shoot YEP, rookie year, yep, two thousand

598
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: and four Dante Robinson. That's a good one. I think

599
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: that was probably that was probably his best year, and

600
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Speaker 1: I you know, if you just go buy interceptions, it

601
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: was clearly his best year. I got to that point

602
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: where everybody knew he was the number one guy. So

603
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: teams start to avoid your number one guys, I throw

604
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: out the other guys, etc. But in two thousand and

605
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: four as a rookie, what a season. He had six

606
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: interceptions and I think, what's it's interesting He counted for

607
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: one hundred forty six yards on his six interceptions. He

608
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: didn't have any pick sixes. He hadn't one until two thousands.

609
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: But he did stuff with the ball after he picked

610
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: it off. Yeah, he had a sixty one yard return.

611
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: He had six huard interceptions. He had three forced fumbles.

612
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: That's always a number I look at. I remember when

613
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: when Khalil Mack was coming out of Buffalo at a

614
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: University of Buffalo and we're talking about Clie Mack and

615
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: that number stood out, his fource fumbles. It was like sixteen.

616
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: He created like sixteen fumbles in four years. And I

617
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: was like, man, that's a that's obscene, you know, just

618
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: like that was Derek Johnson should have been a Texans

619
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: no offense Travis Johnson. Those are the kind of things

620
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: that stay with you, you know, forced fumbles, I mean,

621
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Speaker 1: if you have a knack for doing that at the

622
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: college level, if you're a pretty darn good athlete, which

623
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Speaker 1: Cloe mac is and what Dote Robinson is, that's gonna

624
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,959
Speaker 1: that's gonna stay with you. Uh Dot. They ended up

625
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: forcing seven fumbles. It's as a corner is pretty salty. Yeah.

626
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: So in that two thousand and fourth season, he was

627
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: eighty seven tackles, he had three forced fumbles, he had

628
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: six interceptions. That's the kind of thing I think this

629
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: defense could use as a guy at corner that you can,

630
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: you can, you can move, you can team with j Joe.

631
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: You know, he's gonna make some plays on the physical man.

632
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: He's physical, which I think has always played very well

633
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: for Romeo Cornell defense. I think that gets that's understated

634
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: a lot of times, is how well his defense is. Tackle.

635
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: He had three sacks a year. Yeah, three sacks. Yeah.

636
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: He he's the kind of guy you can do a lot.

637
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: You know. He just reminds me of Kareem Jackson. But

638
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: I think maybe not as physical as Kareem, but maybe

639
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: better with the ball skills and coverage than Kareemah. So

640
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: you end up and you get him at age twenty two,

641
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: bright eyed, bushytailed and ready to go, and he I

642
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: don't know if he locks down one corner, but you

643
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: think about the receivers you're gonna face. He locks down

644
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: a corner on this team, I think you face Michael

645
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: Thomas right away, and look these receivers. You're gonna lose

646
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: some battles too. That's what I think people have to

647
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: come to grips with, is that the quarterbacks and receivers

648
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: are gonna face. Your secondary may be better than it

649
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: was last year, and I think overall it will be

650
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: especially at corner. I think it will be better at

651
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: corner because you've added a lot of jobs. You've added

652
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: Bradley Roby. I think you're gonna be better. You're gonna

653
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: get your main Kelly to see what he can do.

654
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: During training camp. You're gonna add you've added pieces at

655
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: the corner position. Now is it enough. That's one where

656
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: you say, well, time will tell, but can you stay

657
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: healthy at that position? If you do, then you're better

658
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: at that position. Time out, I want to want to

659
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: deve a little deeper into Wait, something you just touched

660
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: on about you're gonna see some battles lost even though

661
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: you're better. I think there is no better example of

662
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: this than the two matchups we get to see every

663
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: single year between DeAndre Hopkins and Jalen Ramsey. Nobody covers

664
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: Hopkins better than Jayleen Ramsey does. That being said, Hopkins

665
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: is still able to do the phenomenal, the fantastic in

666
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: rains end in losses. Last year we saw him at

667
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: Jacksonville make the one hand, or a couple of years

668
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: back when Jacksonville was at its best and the Texans

669
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: were stumbling through that season where they'd lost to Shaun Watson,

670
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: he still saw Hopkins get a touchdown in a game

671
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: that I think if you had to say which guy

672
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: won and you had to choose a winner, you'd probably

673
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: say Ramsey. But even still, Hopkins had his victories. I

674
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: think you choose last year's games, Hopkins wins those, but

675
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: still Ramsey had some victories of his own. That is

676
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: such a phenomenally fierce battle. When those two get together,

677
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: it's so much fun to watch. I think the aspect

678
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: to keep in mind is that you're those guys are

679
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: gonna lose. Yeah, they're gonna lose, and I don't mean

680
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: it is you know, every single week. But what they've

681
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: got to be able to do is make timely plays

682
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: and if they can make timely plays. Look, guys are

683
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: gonna get their catches. You're not gonna keep Michael Thomas

684
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: from catching the football. You're not gonna catch Keenan Allen

685
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: from catching the football. You're not gonna keep t Y

686
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: Hilton from catching the football. But you gotta you gotta

687
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: limit the damage. You gotta make every catch difficult. And

688
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: I think that's the difference. I think last year those

689
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: catches were pretty easy for those guys for the most part,

690
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: the guys that the Texans face, especially you know, t Y,

691
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: I mean it was it was too easy you those

692
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: you know, like with with Ramsey, I think Hop would

693
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: tell you, Yeah, he battles me because he's physical. So

694
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: every catch is hard, and so you gotta make every

695
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: catch hard. And so I think a guy like Dante

696
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: Robinson you put in with J Joe, I think every

697
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: catch ends up being difficult. You're still gonna still gonna

698
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: be tough because of the guy as you're going to face,

699
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: but you've got to make it that much more difficult.

700
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: You've got to reduce windows. You've got to make the

701
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 1: margin for air for the quarterbacks they're facing so small.

702
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: And when you add a guy like Dante Robinson too,

703
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 1: that I think you end up doing that because he

704
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: had really good ball skills with the Texans in the

705
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 1: four years I mean five, two, four, six years he

706
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: was with the Texans, seven, nine, eleven, thirteen thirteen interceptions

707
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: with the Texans in those years, and six of those

708
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: came in two thousand and four. So I'm gonna take

709
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: Dante Robinson two thousand and four. Oh, like, that's a

710
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: good choice. You've And because you've taken him, you've made

711
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: me pause and think, what do you do? Should I

712
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: switch things up? Because now I definitely was going to

713
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: do this, and now I think I might do this.

714
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 1: So you're thinking about what it is that you want

715
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: to do. Now here's the thought. Do you take somebody

716
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: to add to the secondary? Do you take somebody that

717
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: you or in particular, do you put somebody at safety? Now?

718
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: But I liked Sean Gibson and Justin Reid together, but

719
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: could you put a third safety back in this group? See?

720
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: I think I think because I think you had another corner.

721
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: I think you're strong at safety. I think you're fine

722
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: at safe. I think you are too. I think will

723
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: miss the motto now and Joalilla Die is your third safety.

724
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: I think he's an upgrade over Andre Howe. It was

725
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 1: your third safety, and who was a good third safety

726
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: last year. Julie gives you some different things you can do. Yeah,

727
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: Andre had great ball skills and great awareness in the

728
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: in the back end. But Jalil hell Jalil in the

729
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 1: In the playoff game against the Ravens, the Chargers played

730
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 1: seven defensive backs and Jolilla Die and Um Phillips. Uh,

731
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: I want to say, Adrian Phillips, I don't know if

732
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,959
Speaker 1: I'm right By Phillips, I'm a thirty one. They played

733
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,439
Speaker 1: inside linebacker the whole game. Yeah, I mean that's versatility

734
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 1: at its at its finest. So yeah, I think you're right.

735
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: I think Jolilla Die playing playing Say, I like the

736
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: safety group. I like the three guys that you have

737
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: playing safety. If that ends up being the way you go. Now,

738
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: we'll see where being you see places where his permanent

739
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: home is brand Body Calhoun. Yeah, brand Body Calhoun. I

740
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: think he's he's a nickel slot. I think I think

741
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 1: that's where he's gonna fight with Aaron Colvin for that spot.

742
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a good competition. I think there's a

743
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: lot of competition in the secondary, so that gives you

744
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: the opportunity to think about all right, do I add

745
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: I can think of a linebacker, but I like the linebackers. Yeah,

746
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to mess with him. I don't want

747
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 1: to mess with the inside linebackers right now. Um here's

748
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what it's. It's down to three

749
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: different guys. Okay, I'm thinking about plugging in. I was

750
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 1: originally gonna go with Aaron Glenn and two thousand and

751
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: two Aaron Glenn and I think that's a good that's

752
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: still a positive choice, a good choice, safe choice. But

753
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: because you've added Dante Robinson, I wonder should I go

754
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: back to get help up front? I think Clowney is

755
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: gonna whoop some asks this year, I really do. I

756
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: think he's gonna have a great season. I'm not worried

757
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: about that. What about opposite him and outside linebacker? Do

758
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: I want to add Connor Barwin from two thousand and eleven,

759
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: he had eleven and a half sacks that year. He

760
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: blocked seven passes. He's very athletic. People forget he played

761
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: basketball in college. I don't know they forget, but they

762
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: might not remember he played basketball at Cincinnati. He started

763
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 1: out as a tight end, just about like every other

764
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 1: player on this team, like JJ Watt, Like why merciless

765
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: all those guys don't want to add Connor Barwin at

766
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: outside linebacker? Or do I want to bolster the defensive

767
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: end spot opposite Watt and maybe add Antonio Smith from

768
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: twenty eleven went to the Pro Bowl that year? Or good,

769
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: do it? I know what you're thinking about doing. Just

770
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: do it? Do you do you think? Do it? Do

771
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: you really know what I'm doing? Or do I want

772
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: to go to two thousand and seven? Do it and

773
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: plug in Mario Williams there, that's exactly, That's exactly. Is

774
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: he playing out of position at three four defense? Well,

775
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: but that's the beauty of Romeo care Now you know what,

776
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: let's do it. Let's just go with Mario's best season.

777
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: It was two thousand and seven. He fourteen sacks. Um

778
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: he was a man, dude, he was, but you know what,

779
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 1: you look at his stat line and he hit fourteen

780
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: sacks and then he really didn't well that two thousand

781
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: and seven year. He was Phillips stats after that. Other

782
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: than the sack sack stat you know, for example, passes

783
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: defense didn't really do much. No, he was that was

784
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: not his He didn't put his hands up and get

785
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not not gonna get he had he

786
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: had one pass defense. Now, yeah, he was not a

787
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: guy that he only forced two fumbles. I think in

788
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 1: some sense watching what we were spoiled to the fact that, oh,

789
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: well that defensive line can knock that passed down. That

790
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: is such an art. There really is an art to that.

791
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: I don't think there's no side. It is an art.

792
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: It is timing, it is uh, it's an athleticism that's different.

793
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about being an out. It's just

794
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 1: a different type of athleticism needed. So but but hey,

795
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,439
Speaker 1: you know what, why am I downgrading this guy? Because

796
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna have a front

797
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: line with JJ what, DJ Reader and Mario Williams as

798
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: well as Jadeveon Clowney. That's a lot of mix and match,

799
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: and you guys you can shift around there. Yeah, when

800
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 1: we go to eighteen game schedule, we can only play sixteen.

801
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 1: We're good, John, two guys that are gonna play together

802
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 1: ahead of yourself yet. But basically you're gonna probably play

803
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: four to three most of the time and do that. Yeah.

804
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm gonna add Mario Williams. I think that's

805
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: gonna make that secondary that we've bolstered even better. And yeah,

806
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: that's what I'm doing. All right? Uh, can we add?

807
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: Can we add more? To add more? Dud? This is

808
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: our podcast. Yes, we're gonna add more. Guy. I think

809
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: the one thing you mentioned DJ Reader, and you know

810
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of DJ some of the Senior Bowl.

811
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: You want some more beef in fifteen. I I would

812
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: love to have somebody on the interior that could rush

813
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: the quarterback and do a solid job because the Texans

814
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: will the Texans play a four man front a lot

815
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: more than people. Oh so you're gonna go way back.

816
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna way back. I'm going the first season on

817
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: the back the first season I'm going to Pro Bowl.

818
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: Or Gary Walker, Yes, six and a half sacks that

819
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 1: year at fifty one tackles, and he did have four

820
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: passes defense, so he did have a little bit of

821
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: he did have a little bit of juice in that way.

822
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: But I feel like defensively, if you have clowning, you

823
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: have merciless and you have what and I and look,

824
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: I understand the contractual situation like I get it in

825
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: the future, understand. But if you can get j D

826
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: back for twenty nineteen, and I'm with you. I think

827
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 1: he's going to be in shape. He's been healthy all offseason.

828
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 1: That has that has been really in all honesty when

829
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: you think about the players that have come back off

830
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: of injury at some point, it's like, you give him

831
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: a season to get fully healthy. So I think outside,

832
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 1: you're good. But they play a four man front a lot.

833
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: And in the Jets game last year, at the end

834
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: of the game, they moved what inside and had Merciless

835
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: outside and they had clowning the outside on the inside

836
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: was was what? And Covington, Well, obviously you don't have

837
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 1: Christian anymore. You put Walker in there, and you go,

838
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: Clowney what Walker? Watch Wait what? I'm sorry, Merciless Walker,

839
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I mean I'd like to think that we did.

840
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: And then Clowney. You put those four, put your three

841
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: guys with Walker, Mario Williams, I mean, rotate them in.

842
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: Put Mario on the inside. You want, put Mario on

843
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: the inside. And I know Mario did not like rushing

844
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: from the inside. Mario like doing what Mario like to do.

845
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: But if you at least if let Mario get some water,

846
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: put those three guys on the field with Walker, and

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Speaker 1: you're wrecking shop because somebody's being solo blocked somebody unless

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Speaker 1: you're leaving the back end and the tight end to

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Speaker 1: help everybody. All right, Well, I mean at that point,

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Speaker 1: you're still not you're still not helping yourself. Since you

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Speaker 1: added a third, I'm gonna add a fourth. So far,

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Speaker 1: we've added Dante Robinson two thousand and four. Yes, that's

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Speaker 1: who you added. Yes, I added two thousand and seven,

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Speaker 1: Mario Williams defensive end slash edge. You added Gary Walker

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Speaker 1: two thousand and four, nos tackle, defensive tackle, defensive end

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Speaker 1: in a three four. I mean he could kind of

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Speaker 1: do a lot of things, but basically interior rusher. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna add Aaron Glenn from two thousand. He was,

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Speaker 1: you know what, he was so good. He had had

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Speaker 1: all those interceptions, he had two of them taken back

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Speaker 1: for touch that he pretty much won you the Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: Steeler game up there. That's you gotta say, that's the

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Speaker 1: greatest scoring defensive effort in franchise history. Maybe not the

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Speaker 1: best defensive overall effort, but scoring as a defense effort.

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Speaker 1: And even at that point when you go Nickel, if

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Speaker 1: you go big Nickel, you put your three safeties on

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Speaker 1: the field. But if you go Nickel and Hilton goes

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Speaker 1: to the slot, that means you move either Jjoe or

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Speaker 1: or Aaron Glenn inside with Hilton. Yep, now you just

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Speaker 1: gotta figure out which one you put on. Hilton, Jjoe

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Speaker 1: and Glenn Dante Robinson. Pretty exciting stuff. That's what we

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Speaker 1: do on in the lab, so go check it out. Big.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to Drew, to Mark, to Vincent Smith, mainly to

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Speaker 1: you guys for listening to really appreciate it. Idiots coming

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Speaker 1: folks nine days away. We'll see that and as always,

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Speaker 1: go Texans,