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Speaker 1: up in this hour. And uh, it's crazy. As bad

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Speaker 1: as the Stealers were and as bad as the Ravens were,

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Speaker 1: they're both still fighting for the division, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, Like one of these teams gonna make the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow picked a bad year to have been down

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Speaker 4: because I'd be looking like, man, if I was here

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Speaker 4: this whole season, we would have.

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Speaker 2: We would have been done with the division by now.

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Speaker 2: But you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: But obviously there was the Mike Tomlin bowing and people

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Speaker 1: want to, you know, fire Mike Tomlin, and we do

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Speaker 1: have the sound on that. Let's say, yeh, listen, you

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Speaker 1: know what, it's not surprising at all. And I've said

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Speaker 1: this to you before that they haven't won a playoff

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Speaker 2: You can't keep resting on that championship.

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Speaker 1: It's the same thing like John Harbaugh and I said,

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Speaker 1: I said it both and he's been coached.

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Speaker 2: Think about this, Mike.

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Speaker 1: Tom eighteen years, dude, and that finishing above five hundred

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Speaker 1: or I had five hundred or better mediocre? Like okay,

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Speaker 1: Like is that that's cool? Like for a few years,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you're mixing another one or another championship

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Speaker 2: So I'm not I'm not against.

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Speaker 1: I understand the frustration of the Steelers fans, you know,

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Speaker 1: like this is this is real fans want to win

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Speaker 1: like this, there's and we get it.

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Speaker 2: You don't get to win that many times. You know that.

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Speaker 1: If you could get see your team winning your lifetime

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Speaker 1: once or twice, you're good. Yeah, and the Steelers one,

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Speaker 1: but that was what was that? That was before because

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Speaker 1: they lost to the Packers in twenty ten? So was

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Speaker 1: it before that or rob g when was that? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they won two thousand and eight or nine.

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Speaker 2: I know they won with.

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Speaker 4: Because they run in Detroit when the Super Bowls in

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Speaker 4: six But I think that was cowards last one, so I.

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Speaker 2: Think he won to beat Seattle. Was that the one? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: So that, but I think that was Cowards and then

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Speaker 4: then that was great and then they lost the next year, right,

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Speaker 4: a year or two later they walked to the Packers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah was that two years later? I thought they won

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Speaker 1: But anyway, my point is, if I'm pitched so twice

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Speaker 1: but then it's been up a long drought for a

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Speaker 1: People get restless to natives. So I'm fully if I'm

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Speaker 1: the Steelers organization, and I know they don't do it

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Speaker 2: I've had enough. I think you need a new voice.

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Speaker 1: Even they could even get a playoffs, win a playoff game,

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Speaker 2: John Gouden showed up. Now, John Gruden, other than that year,

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Speaker 1: Man, that's one of my favorite teams. All they scored,

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Speaker 2: It was like Miami one and Miami certain.

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Speaker 4: The Miami teams were Okay, everybody in the entire defense

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Speaker 1: On that covered that that would That was the number

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Speaker 2: What do they say defenseive championship? The heck is this

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Speaker 4: The Steelers always tell us that the standard is a standard,

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Speaker 4: and dangy, what is the standard now?

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Speaker 2: Upper tier mid because that's what they become robbed.

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Speaker 4: When it was sixteen games, they'd be you know, nine,

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Speaker 4: the last decade or so. They've been having such bad offenses.

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Speaker 4: They've been struggling on offensively, and I can see why

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Speaker 4: We've given time. We said, okay, this quarterback is young, Okay,

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Speaker 4: this one we've gotten thereon Rogers, like we've done a

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Speaker 2: This just ain't it. And so if they.

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Speaker 4: Decided to move from Mike Tomlin eighteen years in the

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Speaker 4: twenty twenties and twenty tens, isn't a remarkable gig That

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Speaker 4: doesn't happen in sports, That doesn't happen in the world anymore.

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Speaker 4: Gone other days of your father working for IBM or

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Speaker 4: This is a different area. This is the what have

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Speaker 4: you done for me lately? Are And if you haven't

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Speaker 4: So Mike Tomlin has been elicited some grace that other

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Speaker 4: coaches don't often get. So I look at this, you

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Speaker 4: mentioned the fans are staying. We're used to super Bowl

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Speaker 4: being a chance, right, a chance they had historically a chance.

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Speaker 4: They had a nice role with Ben Roethlisberger where we

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Speaker 4: and we were right there on the edge a few years.

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Speaker 4: They were used to being relevant. The Steelers are no

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Speaker 4: longer relevant in a positive way. And so yes, fans

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Speaker 4: are gonna boo, and I don't I think they also

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Speaker 4: don't see green pastor like nothing looks like it's gonna

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Speaker 4: get better, Like they don't have that like all this

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Speaker 2: We're going in the direction. I think it's bigger than that.

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Speaker 1: I just think like they he's been there too long

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Speaker 1: and be like, yo, let's see, but after a while,

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Speaker 1: like eighteen years and my tom is a real long time.

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Speaker 2: To be a coach.

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Speaker 1: He himself, it's not the old days where Tommy Walter

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Speaker 1: Alston was the Dodger manager and he signed twenty four

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Speaker 1: what I mean, but they didn't change managers like that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just think Mike, Mike, the fans are fed up.

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Speaker 4: They booed him, They booed Anon Rodgers, who just came

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Speaker 4: back in the game from a broken nose what it

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Speaker 2: And he even he even caught a stray.

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Speaker 4: So fans are just fed up in Pittsburgh for one

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Speaker 4: of the first times we've seen it in a while.

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Speaker 4: And they even had you know, Aaron Rodgers had to

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Speaker 2: Game go ahead. We got that. All's part of it.

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Speaker 5: You know, they pay money for a ticket, so they

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Speaker 5: So untilally understand the frustration. I've been booed on our offense,

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Speaker 5: a boot worthy performance and understand the frustration.

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Speaker 2: Right and and at least he's honest.

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Speaker 1: Like some guys they don't want to hear any boos,

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Speaker 2: Don't need that right now, what I like, I appreciate

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Speaker 1: Least be keeping it right. It was worthy of them

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Speaker 1: buoing me. I get it out there and even said it.

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Speaker 1: I was booed in Green Bay.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and here's what we were talking about. They've had

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Speaker 1: That is crazy, which is why goal two years, Bill

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Speaker 2: Okay, so what is that?

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Speaker 1: That's thirty six and then you add another eighteen for

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Speaker 1: Mike tominty four. That's over fifty of their three code

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Speaker 4: Think about that almost that's crazy, and again, compliments to them,

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Speaker 4: but that's why they've had stability, that's why they've had

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Speaker 4: a certain point that can't be the standard. The standard

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Speaker 4: has to be we win super Bowls, we get to

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Speaker 4: falling off like and you.

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Speaker 1: Can't even say that, like even that because they haven't

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Speaker 4: And since what those eight nine years now, right, I

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Speaker 4: Monday night getting ready to kick off.

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Speaker 2: Are the Patriots back?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 2: Drake May how many years.

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Speaker 1: Has it been, Rob g just off the top of

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Speaker 1: since they won a playoff or playoff game or or

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Speaker 2: Think it's been twenty eighteen? Was it that six? Six

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Speaker 2: Okay? Yeah? But was that what? Who was the quarterback?

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Speaker 7: Well, they made the playoffs with Mac Jones, but they

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Speaker 7: didn't win a game, that's right. And then they made

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Speaker 7: they won one. Not Brady's last year, the year before

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Speaker 2: They wont a playoff.

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Speaker 2: To be had. Can you can you finish? Straw? They

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's almost a playoff game. Seriously, well for.

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Speaker 2: Dude? Right now? Come back? Did he laugh?

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Speaker 4: No, this is a physical. There's stuff, There's a lot

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Speaker 4: There's me and you and Barry's great greats who still

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Speaker 1: Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox? Is it time

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll try boom. What do you get if

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Speaker 6: Stay?

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Speaker 8: Hey, what's so? Guys? Uh? Yeah, I mean I like

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Speaker 2: You know that.

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Speaker 1: It's always like they're guys like that who and and

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Speaker 1: sometimes it takes moving off from them for them to

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Speaker 1: for the light to turn on. You know, it happens

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Speaker 1: eighty seven, seven ninety nine on Fox Dan in Kansas City,

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Speaker 1: You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: What's up, Dan?

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Speaker 9: Hey, Roby Kelvin, how you doing? Like two objections? I mean, first,

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Speaker 9: the Chiefs are going to go eleven and six? And

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Speaker 9: second wait.

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Speaker 2: Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait? What did you

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Speaker 2: have for Thanksgiving? Eleven and six?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 9: I had turkey, stuffing, mashed potatoes, tomato.

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Speaker 1: Come on, you know you don't even you could be

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Speaker 1: the biggest chief fan Chiefs fan?

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Speaker 2: You really think they gonna they gonna win every game?

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Speaker 1: Come?

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Speaker 2: Have you watched them?

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Speaker 9: They have problems on but they can have problems, you know,

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Speaker 9: just it just takes you no time. You know, I

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Speaker 9: know they're running out of time, but they.

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Speaker 2: Can keep hope alive, keep hope alive. Okay, eleven and

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Speaker 2: six were little on the extreme. Sorry go ahead. Ten

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Speaker 2: and seven?

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Speaker 6: All right?

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe something? Is he still there?

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Speaker 4: He want to tell you about that. I just want

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Speaker 4: to tell you about this turkey sandwich and mashed potatoes.

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Speaker 4: And I see he had one other point.

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Speaker 2: I was just trying. I just couldn't take the eleven

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Speaker 2: and six.

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Speaker 1: Orlando and l Passo, you're on the odd couple of

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 3: Hey, Beliz.

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Speaker 8: It must be devastating to you that the Steelers aren't

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Speaker 8: do well because of their level firm with Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 6: But I will.

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Speaker 2: Orlando, this is the last time you're calling. Okay, don't call.

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Speaker 9: Come on.

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Speaker 1: If you if you really knew anything about me. Seriously,

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Speaker 1: I just I just want to just give you a lesson.

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Speaker 3: I just want to know.

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Speaker 1: I want to give you a lessons. I don't care, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I care about my takes and being right.

485
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Speaker 1: I don't lose any sleep if the Steelers don't win

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Speaker 1: or Aaron Rodgers doesn't play well. I don't know why

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Speaker 1: I've been doing this job for forty years for zero Orlando.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a fanboy.

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Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of guys that you listen

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Speaker 1: to or read or whatever or watch on team.

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Speaker 2: I'm not that guy. Do you think I lose any

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Speaker 2: sleep over any team losing? Zero, Orlando.

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Speaker 1: Don't be backing down, Orlando, No, I'm not backing down.

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Speaker 1: Being honest, I I just don't care what I'm What

495
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Speaker 1: I care about is that I picked the Chiefs and

496
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Speaker 1: the Lions not to make the playoffs before Orlando tag

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Speaker 1: me in because he also picked the Steelers to make

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. He also thank it, Orlando, you had him

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Speaker 1: on the road. They had me on no rope. You

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Speaker 1: hit him with a two piece of a biscuit. Come on, Orlando,

501
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Speaker 1: these guys, they think they will call up and think

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Speaker 1: that I care, that I that I really care.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a fan. I've been doing this for forty

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Speaker 2: freaking years.

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Speaker 1: You know when my fandom stopped when I got a

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Speaker 1: job as a professional reporter Orlando in nineteen eighty six.

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Speaker 1: And don't you ever ever think anything otherwise. You've never

508
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Speaker 1: seen me wear no players jersey and and all that

509
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Speaker 1: stuff and root for anybody.

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Speaker 2: I don't do that because I don't do that.

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Speaker 1: That's not what I'm meant to I went to Columbia

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Speaker 1: Journalism School.

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Speaker 2: What's your point?

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Speaker 1: I got to sitting next to you every day right

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Speaker 1: I started my PhD at NYU. I have a press

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Speaker 1: box at Southern Connecticut State University?

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Speaker 2: Whatit mait? What is it? Are you? You didn't just retire?

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Speaker 2: I don't want your resume. I'm giving my bio. This

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Speaker 2: is not your Parker reference page. Will ever picked the bio?

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Speaker 2: Ever call up here with that? Orlando?

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Speaker 4: What Orlando was supposed to do with? Stand ten toes down? Orlando,

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Speaker 4: you let him get you dang all right, speaking to

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Speaker 4: get you.

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Speaker 1: TJ.

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Speaker 2: Hohospas out on the way.

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Speaker 4: Uh. We'll talk to NFL headlines with him, including this

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Speaker 4: when what he thoughts? I obviously was in the same

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Speaker 4: division as Mike Tomlin for years. Get his thoughts on

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Speaker 4: that right now, Steve the saga, Hey, Steve.

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 3: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsportsradio dot

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Speaker 3: com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to listen live.

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Speaker 4: Steve, thank you so much, appreciate it. I couple Rod

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Speaker 4: Parker kelvin Washington on a magic any Monday coming up.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna talk a little bit about Shador Sanders, how

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Speaker 4: he played on and off the field. We're talking about

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Speaker 4: that a little bit right now.

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Speaker 2: I'm with Judge Judy.

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Speaker 4: Well, I want to be with Judge you he making

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Speaker 4: forty five fifty million years at ninety seven years old.

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Speaker 2: TJ.

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Speaker 4: Housmizata a former Pro Bowl wide receiver, co host of

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Speaker 4: Up on Game on Fox Sports Radio, and has the

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Speaker 4: best ponytail in the game.

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Speaker 2: My dog, Who's what up man? Who's How long have

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Speaker 2: you had that ponytail? How long is your hair? Have

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Speaker 2: you ever cut your hair that man?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, trimm trimman, No, but I mean cutting.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever like?

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Speaker 6: No? No, no, I haven't had a hair cut since

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Speaker 6: probably nineteen ninety nine.

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Speaker 2: It started with a nineteen serious twenty six years.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. I started growing in when I was in junior college.

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Speaker 2: What's the reason, you, Samson?

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Speaker 3: What is it?

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Speaker 6: Nah? Man? I just I didn't have nobody really to

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Speaker 6: cut my hair. And when I first started putting in

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Speaker 6: the pony's, I use have to go home. My mama

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Speaker 6: would put in the ponytail and I wear a do

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Speaker 6: rag overnight because I didn't know how to do it myself.

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Speaker 2: I can't mess this up exactly.

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Speaker 4: Shoot, all right, let's get to some all the way

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Speaker 4: turning their hairstyles with Robin Kelvin.

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Speaker 1: All right, there's a there's a few things going on. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we could do that. Yeah, we're both on the same page.

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Speaker 1: We don't agree on a lot. But after this year,

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Speaker 1: unless they go to the Super Bowl, eighteen years of

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Speaker 1: Mike Tom and I'm good, I think it's time for

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Speaker 1: a new voice, just to make a change. They've had

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Speaker 1: three coaches in fifty four years. I just think it's

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Speaker 1: tired or stale.

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Speaker 2: Where are you.

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Speaker 6: I actually agree that they need to go their separate ways.

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Speaker 6: And the biggest problem is this. Once they saw Ben

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Speaker 6: Roethlisberger on the other side, they should have prepared for

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Speaker 6: that and drafted a quarterback that could have taken over it.

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Speaker 2: But they drafted guys, but none of them weren't good.

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Speaker 2: They did They.

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Speaker 6: Were drafting guys in the third round. They weren't drafting

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Speaker 6: guys to be the air a parent. They were hoping, Okay,

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Speaker 6: this draft of Mason Rudolph and hope you got a

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Speaker 6: draft a guy. Very rarely, are you're going to get

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Speaker 6: a Time Brady really late in the draft, or you

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Speaker 6: just draft somebody outside the first two rounds that is

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Speaker 6: a franchise quarterback. That's rare, And so they could have

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Speaker 6: done it, but you know, they want to draft and

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Speaker 6: spend all this money on the defensive side of the ball,

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Speaker 6: and now that defense is giving up over two hundred

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Speaker 6: yards of game rushing and that's where all your money

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Speaker 6: is at.

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Speaker 1: No doubt, I got to and I want to figure

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Speaker 1: out and then there. But going into the season, TJ

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Speaker 1: I predicted the Chiefs and the Lions would not both

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Speaker 1: make the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Where are you on those two teams.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, the Lions have a huge game against the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: on Thursday. Where are you on those two teams and

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Speaker 1: how surprised are you to see them where they are.

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Speaker 6: I'm not surprised now. I said this last week or

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Speaker 6: two weeks ago. I didn't think the Chiefs wouldn't make

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Speaker 6: the playoffs, but it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't.

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Speaker 6: It's really hard to play at such a high level

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Speaker 6: year end and year out, win the Vision every single

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Speaker 6: year because everybody you played they're getting up for you.

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Speaker 6: It don't matter. Every all seventeen games, your opponent gets

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Speaker 6: up for you more than they get up for everybody else.

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Speaker 6: And so for the Chiefs that's hard to do. John

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Speaker 6: Harball has always been good, I said, John, Jim Harball

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Speaker 6: has always been very good. In this second year, you

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Speaker 6: knew what Sean Payton and the Denver Broncos was going

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Speaker 6: to be really good, and so I just felt like

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Speaker 6: the Chiefs would win it. And then with the Lions

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Speaker 6: you lose both coordinators. I assumed it would be a

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Speaker 6: drop off offensively and the drop office at same players,

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Speaker 6: they should be a little bit better, but it's just

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Speaker 6: that timely play calling that they don't have. I still

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Speaker 6: believe the Lions will make the playoffs, and from the

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Speaker 6: looks of it, I don't believe the Chiefs will.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, both teams have a shot.

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Speaker 4: The Lions a little bit better than the Chiefs, and

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Speaker 4: a lot of their destiny will be in their hand.

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Speaker 4: The last game of the season to be against the Bears.

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Speaker 2: That will last game, maybe bigger than that before.

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Speaker 4: I'm saying that. Probably my opinion will be they win,

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Speaker 4: they can be in. They lose their out. That's how

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Speaker 4: it is set up. Let's go to some other teams.

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Speaker 4: We'll see it. TJ.

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Speaker 1: They got three really good teams in their way, the

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Speaker 1: forty nine Ers, who are the.

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Speaker 2: Three you tell me they got to play? No, who

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Speaker 2: are ahead of them?

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Speaker 1: Like the Packers, the forty nine Ers, the Packers in

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Speaker 1: the division, and the Seahawks like those are the unless

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Speaker 1: they have a meltdown.

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Speaker 2: But a lot of those teams.

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Speaker 4: The only thing that works in favor of him, A

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Speaker 4: lot of the teams are playing in the conference, like,

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Speaker 4: for instance, the Bears played two games they.

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Speaker 6: Play the Hawks are in. The Seahawks and Rounds are in.

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Speaker 6: Is can they get ahead of the Niners, right, the

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Speaker 6: Seahawks and they're in can can they get ahead of

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Speaker 6: the Niners? And that's possible, Yeah, that's possible if no.

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Speaker 1: Same Saint Brown the last the next two weeks and

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Speaker 1: the Lion and the Lions played.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot. Yeah, the Lions play the fighting rapping

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Speaker 2: on Monday night.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Man, they trying to take Jackson Dart's head off.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well, you know what, let's stay there for

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Speaker 4: a minute. Tej who was out of our guests, former

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Speaker 4: Pro Bowl receiver of course on with the Akabarab and

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Speaker 4: Kelvin that they highlighted this previously on Countdown getting ready

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Speaker 4: to Jackson Dart obviously loving and filling himself and running

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Speaker 4: and trying to win for his team. They highlighted teacher,

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Speaker 4: he just runs in and the Robin Ice city here

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Speaker 4: every week. We're like, man, he's got to learn the slider.

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Speaker 4: He keeps getting hit and I feel like part of

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Speaker 4: that hit you just got because guys know you can

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Speaker 4: hit him. You know he's gonna, you know, try to

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Speaker 4: take that hit, get that at your yard.

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Speaker 1: But did you they've made the rule so that you

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Speaker 1: could slide and avoid that, right, So what do you.

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Speaker 6: Say to him, Yeah, man, this is mentality. Man. I've

663
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Speaker 6: been knowing this kid since he was in high school.

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Speaker 6: That's his mentality. It wasn't a penalty. He was in bounds.

665
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Speaker 6: This to Patrick Mahomes, I'm gonna run down the sideline

666
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Speaker 6: and you think I'm gonna step out, and I'm gonna

667
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Speaker 6: keep going. So all these dudes are doing. If you're

668
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Speaker 6: gonna tiptoe down a sideon, I'm gonna go ahead and

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Speaker 6: tiptoe you out of bounds, right.

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Speaker 4: I don't see any problem with it right there. No, No,

671
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Speaker 4: he keeps creating guys. No, he's gonna go there for

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Speaker 4: the extra yard.

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Speaker 6: This is a thing, though. They need to be consistent

674
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Speaker 6: with this though, because that wasn't an unnecessary rapid. That

675
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 6: wasn't a late hit. But with other quarterbacks, that's your late.

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Speaker 2: Hit, you said, Patrick Mahomes. I heard you too.

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Speaker 6: Officials need to be consistent, That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you. I agree, I agree with no doubt.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well soay, yeah, obviously you're watching. This will continue

681
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Speaker 4: to keep folks updated. Man, help me out here. You

682
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 4: got a couple of teams, Rob and I gonna talk

683
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Speaker 4: about the next hour a little bit. The Bears and

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Speaker 4: the Broncos both leading and continue on nine to three

685
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Speaker 4: winning games. Are you sold on either one of those teams?

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Speaker 6: I'm not in it. Hey, you know the bron the

687
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 6: Commanders literally had the game, but at the end of

688
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 6: the day, you got to make the play. It With

689
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Speaker 6: the Bears, it's just so weird, like you're like, Okay,

690
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 6: they're gonna lose this game. Oh, Wilson Caleb Williams is

691
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 6: complete less than fifty percent of his passes. Oh, they

692
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Speaker 6: run for over two hundred yards. And so at the

693
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Speaker 6: end of the day, they're making the plays.

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Speaker 2: You're only made that play, big touchdown throw.

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Speaker 6: That they're making the plays when it's needed. And so

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00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 6: if you look at Kayler Williams, he took the ton

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Speaker 6: of sacks last year. He's not taking sax last year.

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Speaker 6: He turned the ball over last year. He's not turning

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Speaker 6: the ball over this year. And so those two things

700
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 6: that were very glaring, he's corrected them. And so he's

701
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Speaker 6: going to have to go into this offseason and say,

702
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Speaker 6: I have to be better at my completion percentage. So

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Speaker 6: I believe he'll hone in on that. But is it

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Speaker 6: a surprise with the Broncos. No, the Bears are a

705
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 6: huge surprise. They're leading the division right now. If I'm

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Speaker 6: not mistaken. Are they notnumber one in the ES?

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Speaker 2: They are.

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Speaker 1: But that win though, right there against the Eagles in Philadelphia,

709
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: like everybody was like, oh, well, they got.

710
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Speaker 2: A cupcake schedule.

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Speaker 1: Here was your game, DJ, that was the game right Philadelphia,

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Speaker 1: who had just blown a twenty one to nothing lead

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Speaker 1: to Dallas. They had every reason to come out and

714
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: play great at home against the Bears, who people didn't

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Speaker 1: want to buy into, and it didn't happen.

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Speaker 2: If I'm in Chicago, I feel great.

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Speaker 6: The Eagles were on high alert. They ready for that

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Speaker 6: game considering what you just said, I'm twenty one you

719
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Speaker 6: lose to the Cowboys. So that week of practice it

720
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Speaker 6: was a point emphasis of we got to make sure

721
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Speaker 6: we start fast, but we got to finish stronger because

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00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 6: we started fast last game, we didn't finish it. The

723
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 6: Bears defensively are turning it up. Not like they played

724
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Speaker 6: very good on defense. Now is that a lack of

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00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 6: what Philly has on offense? I don't know. But you

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00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 6: got to get a Bears defense under credit and that

727
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Speaker 6: offensive line and DeAndre Swift. They went to work because

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Speaker 6: the Eagles defense, as we know, it's tough to run

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Speaker 6: on to do anything going almost like we in college football.

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Speaker 2: Yes, on the road in Philly. That was a big win.

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Speaker 6: I was shot. Hey, can I ask you all the question?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Are you guys what y'all think about the Lange kissing thing?

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Speaker 2: Well, we talked about it earlier. Uh My thing.

735
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Speaker 4: Was you built your program is better than LSU right now,

736
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Speaker 4: not a story.

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Speaker 2: Right now.

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Speaker 6: We disagree.

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Speaker 2: You tell them good and tell them to you.

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Speaker 6: We disagree.

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Speaker 1: I take that job ten times out of ten times.

742
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Speaker 1: You ain't winning that old miss, he knows, tell them

743
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Speaker 1: you take that job.

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Speaker 6: Hey, listen, if your kid is getting recruited by LSU,

745
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Speaker 6: and no, miss, where you're sending your kids.

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Speaker 2: Thank you?

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Speaker 1: Where you're gonna send me to k I'm sending them

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Speaker 1: ls I'm sorry there you go.

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Speaker 6: Of course, of course, and they are having they are

750
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,439
Speaker 6: having a good season. But at the end of the day,

751
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 6: he's such a great coach, and then he identifies talent

752
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 6: and puts him in the system. LS you is just

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Speaker 6: a better job.

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Speaker 2: Don't tell me that, Thank tj Y. He can't get it.

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Speaker 4: If he's a great coach. Coach on the ole miss

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Speaker 4: I agree with you. Stay there and Windy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, you're living in a finas.

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Speaker 6: They're gonna win. They just not gonna win at all.

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00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 6: They not beating Ohio State, They're not beating at Georgia.

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Speaker 6: They that old miss l s U. You can beat

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Speaker 6: those guys because you're gonna have those type of guys that.

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Speaker 2: Can do it. Well. He better do it because he

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Speaker 2: ain't did it yet in about a twenty years career.

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Speaker 6: TJ.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I tried to tell him for twenty minutes, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I just GJ. You're still you won't listen to me

768
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Speaker 1: because I didn't play in the NFL. That is why

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Speaker 1: I listen to you know, he don't want to listen

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Speaker 1: to what I'm saying. Forget TJ that I've been in

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Speaker 1: this business for forty years.

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Speaker 2: TJ. I'm so tired of hearing that. TJ. That's my

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Speaker 2: alarm clock. All right, we freeciate you bro, all right, Teller, No, no,

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Speaker 2: we got more the couple Fox Long Clock. That'll be

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Speaker 2: a great gut uh.

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Speaker 1: Gucciek Burt, come on, can we get Christmas back to

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Speaker 1: where it was? You don't like this, you're here the baltime, Gucci,

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Speaker 1: he was telling you what was cold? Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: It's the odd couple her run DMC's Christmas song. I'm

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Speaker 1: going we still we still got times. Look another hour.

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Speaker 1: Mary Mack has locked the lotus. Dang and we got

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Speaker 1: a whole month rock that's better.

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Speaker 10: First got I will touch that seventeen hundred music. I

788
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Speaker 10: promise it's okay. No, no, no, no, I agree. Robin

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Speaker 10: is a classic. We got plenty of time, rob our couple,

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Speaker 10: Fox Sports Radio. Thank you to t J who was

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Speaker 10: out our guest who joined us moments ago.

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Speaker 1: Check out the podcast helped you out. Yeah, ain't no,

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Speaker 1: I still I still stand on bitness is the one

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00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: thing with Kelvin. Whenever the like the guests come on

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Speaker 1: and he told he get like some traction or whatever

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Speaker 1: and the NA.

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Speaker 2: What's the scoring that like fifty two to two? He's

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Speaker 2: always like, okay, fifty two to two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, No, first of all, I'm like this what

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Speaker 1: I was talking about with Orlando earlier.

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Speaker 4: I stand on business. I said what I said Orlando. Okay, Oh,

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Speaker 4: speaking of which, real quick forty ye.

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Speaker 2: Tirack dot comment is the way tied biing should be?

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Speaker 2: Rob g got some odd mob comments, you tub beans

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Speaker 2: what we already know.

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Speaker 7: This is all about a lot of comments in the

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Speaker 7: wake of the call with Orlando from our past.

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Speaker 2: Nobody hick want.

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Speaker 7: To hear ro we go, this is totally unrelated. Goddamn,

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Speaker 7: says Rob. You're definitely a fanboy.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Polo C says I can't read.

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Speaker 7: The first part is inappropriate, but Rob definitely thin skin

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00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 7: fanboy for a rod Rob once said he could drink

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00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 7: Aaron Rodgers bathwater. Of course he's a fan. Rob wears

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Speaker 7: Kelvin's pj's to bed.

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Speaker 2: That's a good one.

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Speaker 7: And then Adam Castro says love how we can all agree.

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Speaker 7: Rob's definitely a fan boy for the Aarons, Rogers.

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Speaker 4: And Karen's listen who said that That last.

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Speaker 2: One was from what are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: Adam one of the old time great quarterbacks and a

827
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Speaker 1: guy who I said five years ago is going to

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Speaker 1: is one of the top sluggers in the history to

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Speaker 1: gain but five.

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Speaker 7: Years getting heat because this is about Kelvin is a

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Speaker 7: voice of the fans and people value is it? Penis

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Speaker 7: what a lot of people think. But you're going nowhere

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Speaker 7: with his own misconversation.

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Speaker 2: I'm listening. I stand on business now.

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Speaker 4: Two years from now I might be feeling stupid, but

836
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Speaker 4: right now I'm standing on business.

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Speaker 2: What else come on this morning, Calvin, I want to

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Speaker 2: hear it all.

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Speaker 7: There's another one, Robin on that smokey Robinson right now.

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Speaker 7: My baby here laughing it up at these two. I'm

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Speaker 7: glad we can watch him too.

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Speaker 1: That's a nice way they ended right there. It was

843
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: about more heat on that. I wanted more heat. I

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Speaker 1: admit my fandom Robin