1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: My wife admitted to baby trapping me with three kids, 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: but I don't care. 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 2: I'm still leaving. 4 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 3: If the sex was consensual, is it baby I guess 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 3: it depends howsual, depends how your baby trapping. 6 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 4: Let's hear it, Let's hear more. I want to hear so. 7 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 5: My wife's thirty two female and I thirty four male, 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 5: have been together for eight years. We have a little girl, 9 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 5: five female, and a baby boy, two male. I love 10 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 5: both of them more than anything, and I finally feel 11 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 5: like I have it all. A beautiful wife, two healthy kids, 12 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 5: a great career, and a big house. The token American 13 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 5: dream to take dogs because I'm allergic just like Arian. 14 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 5: Arian is allergy to dogs, so we can have a 15 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:48,959 Speaker 5: freaking gold ring. 16 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 4: Sam still marry me? Or is it a deal breaker? 17 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 5: Deal breaker? But yeah, it sounds pretty picture of perfect, 18 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 5: picture of perfect. When we talked about kids before, my 19 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 5: wife always said she wanted to I only wanted one. 20 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 5: It would be easier and we'd have our money for 21 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 5: vacations and stuff. But my wife maintained it's important for 22 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 5: a child to have a sibling. 23 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 3: It feels fair, and he loves both of them. You 24 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 3: would think he would come around. Oh I've got these 25 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 3: two darling little doll faced thinky bus. 26 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 5: Face, thinky butts. I grew up with four and my 27 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 5: wife with none, so I guess I understand where she's 28 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 5: coming from. After our son and getting through the baby 29 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 5: years and sleepless nights for the second time, I did 30 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 5: not want to go through it all again. 31 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 4: No more children. 32 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: Both kids were foxy and kolicky. I don't know what 33 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: that means. But when he's lanky. 34 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 3: Colicky, yeah, I think it means like they're moist or something. 35 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 5: There's no way that's what I think. 36 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,559 Speaker 4: Comment below do is call it? You mean moist colic? 37 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 5: Just pain painful, just like a pain in the ass, 38 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 5: pain in the Abdominum. I don't know. But when he 39 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 5: was a year old, my wife casually began mentioning, what 40 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 5: if we got a third kid? 41 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 4: If we just went to the store and got another one, 42 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 4: get another kid, shop around, see what we like. 43 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: Ibut a big butter boat one. 44 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 5: Hey, yeah, that's the baby. Oh hey. I would laugh 45 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 5: it off, but finally she sat me down and said, 46 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 5: we have to have a third child. 47 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 4: What's the reasoning here? 48 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 5: I said, no, what would be a reason. 49 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 3: To have a third one because she loves she finds 50 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 3: purpose in motherhood. It brings her the most joy she's 51 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 3: ever experienced, and would. 52 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 4: He dare deprive her of that gift? 53 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 5: Crazy girlfriend alert. 54 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 4: Don't put it in the crazy ones, they say. 55 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 5: I said no, we agreed on two, but she said 56 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 5: she wanted four, and three was the compromise. I refused 57 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 5: and said I wanted to have one, but we had two. 58 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 5: She got angy, green called me selfish for taking away 59 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 5: her dream of wanting a big fan. 60 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 4: So what I'm talking about, I understand the mind of 61 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 4: a woman. 62 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 5: A couple of days later, she apologized and we had sex. 63 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 3: Man didn't realize that maybe he should put a bag 64 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 3: on it. 65 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 4: This time. 66 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 5: I noticed her drive increased exponentially, but so did mine, 67 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 5: and I was happy to engage with her. She was 68 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 5: on birth control, I had a condom. 69 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 2: I thought we were all. 70 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 4: Good, double duty over here double. 71 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 5: Thinking back on it, I probably should have figured out 72 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 5: that something was up. 73 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 4: I don't know. 74 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 3: It's like, it's like after the fight, everything's a little 75 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 3: bit more steamy. You want to have some like hot 76 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 3: and steamy break up post fights? 77 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know anything. 78 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 5: Naked, they say, Yeah, that's what we do. 79 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, let me jump around, Yeah like that, like that. 80 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 5: I came home from work one day while the kids 81 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 5: were at their grandparents, and my wife showed me a 82 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 5: positive pregnancy test, literally dancing with joy. What do you 83 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 5: think the wife did? 84 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 4: Poked a hole and went off of her birth control? 85 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 5: See, you just came to that answer way too quick, 86 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 5: and it's really making. 87 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 4: Me else what else could it have been? 88 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 5: That's why pulling out is the only method. 89 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 3: Boys, the only safe way, only safe way when work 90 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 3: in dooning. 91 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 4: Pull out sex is the safest sex. 92 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 5: My first thought was, oh fuck. My wife noticed my 93 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 5: less than happy expression on my face and started. 94 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 1: Screaming at me. She berated me for not being su 95 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: part of and that this was a mirror of hole 96 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: from God and. 97 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 5: I should be grateful. I said I was sorry and 98 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 5: hugged her and said I was super excited for the baby. 99 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 3: Lying just straight up lying in gaslight. Listen, happy wife, 100 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,239 Speaker 3: happy life, that's what they say. 101 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 5: My wife was delighted, and later that night she was 102 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 5: calling all family and friends to happily tell them the news. 103 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 5: When she was talking about the nursery and how we'll 104 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 5: convert my office into room. I started getting a little suspicious. 105 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 5: Everything was so well thought out, and it seemed like 106 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 5: she'd been planning at all this time. When she was asleep, 107 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 5: I took the condoms out of the cupboard and ran 108 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 5: them underwater holes holes. Dude, fucking crazy. 109 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 4: Dude, that's crazy. That's not cool. 110 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 5: I am so glad that you're finally saying it's not cool. 111 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 4: That's not cool because there wasn't if it was an 112 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 4: if it was. 113 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 5: An oops, oops, you can't help you can't help an oop. 114 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 3: But to actively, that's just yeah, that's just lying to 115 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 3: your husband. Ultimately, it's about what you would not condone, 116 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 3: but not condone. 117 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like I feel like Arianna just gets 118 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 5: into the mind of the crazy ex girlfriend. But isn't 119 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 5: crazy her song. 120 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm willing to empathize. 121 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 3: I'm just a highly empathetic person and can see it 122 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 3: from how it might be done if I were the 123 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 3: crazy ex girlfriend or girlfriend. 124 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 4: However, Okay, communication is key, kids, Communication is key. 125 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 5: Okay. I nabbed her phone and saw she'd set a 126 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 5: password on it, which was odd. Nevertheless, my wife has 127 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 5: a terrible memory, so I tried her birthday and it opened. 128 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,559 Speaker 5: Further up, we're text with her best friend of my wife, 129 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 5: complaining how I wouldn't come around. Her best friend suggested 130 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 5: that I arrange an accident. 131 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: No, hey, wouldn't it be crazy if I Wouldn't it 132 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: be unfortunate if you tripped and fell. You'll know, would 133 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: it be unfortunate if your your your business built, but 134 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: you know, burnt down. You know you need a little 135 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: protection from the mob. You know, you don't want you 136 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: don't want something bad. You know, accidents happen all the time. 137 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, you go ahead and uh, something happens. You just 138 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 4: the guy. 139 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: If we gotta whack him, we gotta put some some stone, 140 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: you know, you gotta you know, if if an accident happened, 141 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: you just gotta keep whacking them, Just keep whacking them. 142 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: And then and then when down that cement flies all 143 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: over your face that you. 144 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 4: Know, you gotta grab it with the turkey based. 145 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you gotta stick it inside. 146 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, baby, it's the turkey baster A real thing. 147 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 4: Yes, I saw it in a show once. 148 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 5: Really, what do they do? 149 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 3: She she got some semen from somewhere, purportedly saved it 150 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 3: from her husband, put it in a turkey baster, put 151 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 3: her legs up on the wall, stuck it in segment 152 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 3: oh yeah, and then squeezed it and she got pregnant 153 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 3: with twins. 154 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 4: You heard it from here, folks, it happened in TV. 155 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 4: That means it's real. 156 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 5: My wife agreed and said it was great to arrange 157 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 5: an accident and that she was going to come off 158 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 5: birth control. It went on for a little while, ending 159 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 5: with my wife saying yes, we were going to have 160 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 5: a third So I woke her up immediately and asked 161 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 5: her if this had really been a miracle baby. She 162 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 5: got the deer in the headlight's look and burst into tears. 163 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 5: She wailed and then got angry. Through tears, she screamed. 164 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: I had no right to go through her phone, and 165 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: it's her choice whether or not she wants to take 166 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: birth control. 167 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 5: The side effects are bad and she was sick. She 168 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 5: also brought up if I really didn't want a third kid, 169 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 5: I would have had a vasectomy. 170 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 4: This is crazy. 171 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 3: You're supposed to have these conversations together. If birth control 172 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 3: is making you sick, talk to your partner about it, 173 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 3: then you go off of it. 174 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 4: Then he would probably choose to get a vasectomy. 175 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 5: I love that. I'm I'm so glad that you're normal. 176 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 5: My god, Yes, yes, yes, I mean it's absolutely she's 177 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 5: gaslighting him to the MAC. She's like, oh for sure. 178 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 3: Now, dare you look through my phone? After I poke 179 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 3: toolls in the content each kid? Is it costs like 180 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 3: two million dollars? Like you basically just cost this man 181 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 3: two million I want to spend like you're completely interrupting 182 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 3: his lifestyle. 183 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 5: At that point, Oh yeah, he's fucked. 184 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 4: He's not fucked, he sucked. It's just like, is he 185 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 4: ever gonna love that child the same? Also, he asked her, but. 186 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 5: Is he gonna love his wife the same? 187 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 4: Probably not, probably not? And that's gonna that's gonnack the children, all, 188 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 4: all the children? 189 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 5: Was it worth it? She told me to go sleep 190 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 5: on the couch. I laughed out loud and said, no, 191 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 5: I'm sleeping here. You're leaving. So, while wailing, she packed 192 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 5: a bag and left to her parents. When she called 193 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 5: the next day, I told her I need some time 194 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 5: to myself. She said that's fine, but I need to 195 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 5: come around for our child. I told her I wasn't 196 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 5: sure if it be our child, and she cried more. 197 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 5: It's been two weeks since then, government recommended to stay home, 198 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 5: and I knew staying home by myself while also working 199 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 5: with the two kids and not be ideal, and she 200 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 5: wanted to see the kids. So we're in the same house. 201 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 5: She constantly keeps on stopping me and trying to get 202 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 5: me excited for a kid, and planning the nursery names 203 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 5: and whatever. I've been ignoring her entirely. What do I do? 204 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 5: Staying home with her is bad enough, and I don't 205 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 5: know if I should leave her over this. I don't 206 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 5: trust her anymore. She betrayed it. I'm angry, but I 207 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 5: have another child on the way. 208 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 4: What should It's a really, really tough situation. 209 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 3: You've got only a couple months to kind of figure 210 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 3: figure it out. 211 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 5: Well, do you think this is a big Is this 212 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 5: a big enough breach of trust to end the relationship? 213 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 3: I don't think that you will necessarily have a happy 214 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 3: relationship unless you're both willing to put in the work. 215 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 3: Maybe you decide, you both decide okay this Actually you know, 216 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 3: given the children, it matters so much to me. Hey, 217 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 3: we realized we both weren't communicating well with one another. 218 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 5: But she has to admit that. 219 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, they both have to decide that, but maybe she 220 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 4: would who knows. 221 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 3: Got to give her the benefit of the doubt that 222 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 3: she can realize that she was crazy, she was being crazy. 223 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, but now like this craziness, Like when does craziness 224 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 5: like like. 225 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 3: Like can she completely reverse her personality from like so 226 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 3: crazy to even then? 227 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 5: Trust? 228 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 4: Were they? 229 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 5: But like, like your actions have consequences, Like is this 230 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 5: an action that you can't come back from? I mean 231 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 5: it's an action that literally has lifelong consequences. 232 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 3: Right, yeah, yeah, of course a lot of things happen 233 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 3: in marriage that that. Then no, listen, it's like you're 234 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 3: choosing to dedicate yourself to this person forever, right, that's 235 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 3: the commitment you made. Then you decide do I actually 236 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 3: want to, you know, uphold that despite how horribly I 237 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 3: feel betrayed. 238 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 5: I'd say that feels like a pretty big breach of trust. 239 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 5: I think OP has it, Like, I think he is 240 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 5: well within his rights to get a divorce. 241 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 4: Like detely not the asshole, not the asshole if. 242 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 5: You wanted to get divorce, should he do it? I know, 243 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 5: I think you are right that it could be worked through, 244 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,479 Speaker 5: But only if she she admits that this was a terrible. 245 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 4: Thing, for sure. 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And 276 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 5: I just want to thank blue Choo one more time 277 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 5: for sponsoring this podcast and making the hard things hard 278 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 5: and our life easy. 279 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 2: Oh yes, back to the episode. 280 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 5: So the wife's still at home. I'm going out of 281 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 5: my mind. Kids don't understand what's happening and keep asking 282 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 5: why I won't talk to mommy. Yeah, it's been close 283 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 5: to a month since then, and I've been following the advice. 284 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 5: I saw. I lied and said I was going for 285 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 5: a drive. She tried to come along, but it's a 286 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 5: two person limit per car and she needs to look 287 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 5: after the kids. I called my dad's best friend, she's 288 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 5: a lawyer, and told her everything. I screenshoted the text 289 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 5: and sent them to myself, and at nighttime, I asked 290 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 5: her to talk and press my phone on record and 291 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 5: asked her why she did it, And she went on 292 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 5: about completing our family and how we needed a third kid, 293 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 5: and she knows I'll love them more than anything when 294 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 5: they're born. So basically, he's recording her admitting, yeah, everything, 295 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 5: little detective over here. She apologized profusely as well, and 296 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 5: she told me she knew she hadn't gone about it 297 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 5: the right way and she should have accepted it. And 298 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 5: I'm within my rights to do what I want, but 299 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 5: please stay for the kid, and now that it's on 300 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 5: the way, we can take it positively anyway that brings 301 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 5: us today. 302 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 3: It sounds like she just wants to brush the whole 303 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 3: thing under the rug, like, but you're gonna love it 304 00:14:59,160 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 3: so much. 305 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 5: I know, I know which is You know it might 306 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 5: be true. 307 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 3: I mean it's probably partially true, but she's not acknowledging how. 308 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 4: Fucked up it was. 309 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's pretty fucked up. I'm back on civil terms 310 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 5: with my wife, and I've started acting like everything's okay 311 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 5: between us. She's happy, the kids are happy and excited 312 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 5: for their new sibling. Everything's going great, except for the 313 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 5: divorce that I've planned behind her back. No, I've got 314 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 5: the evidence, I've got the lawyer, and I'm preparing to 315 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 5: present her the papers. I talked to the lawyer about 316 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 5: how it's going to go because of quarantine and what 317 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 5: technology is being used online documents and video conferencing, this 318 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 5: thing called ADR Alternative Dispute Resolution. So that's pretty much it. 319 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 5: I've got all my ducks in a row and my 320 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 5: wife doesn't know a thing. 321 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 4: I feel bad for the little kids, kind of feel 322 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 4: bad for the kids. I feel bad for the kids, yeah. 323 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 5: Because like they're excited for their. 324 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 3: Like exactly, they're they're happy moment and Daddy are talking again. 325 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 5: It does suck, but it's like, but just remember it's 326 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 5: not him that broke up the family, Like she. 327 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 3: Will the kids understand that, Like, I don't know if 328 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 3: they will. 329 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know if they will. And I 330 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 5: honestly like, how. 331 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 3: Do you explain the whole situation to them? Like, Yeah, 332 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 3: there's these things called condoms you can poke holes in them, 333 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 3: and there's this thing called birth control like bees on 334 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 3: the birds talk of happening very early in this thing. 335 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, dude, it's uh, it's definitely a complicated one. But 336 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 5: let us know, is Op the ahole? What do you think? 337 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 5: Put in the comments below and Ariana, is he the 338 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 5: a hole for leaving? 339 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 4: No? 340 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 5: No, not at all. All right, we'll see you in 341 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 5: the next one. 342 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 6: Is my husband cheating on me? I keep finding long 343 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 6: hairs that aren't mine or his. 344 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 5: He's bald, OKAYOPI he's bald. 345 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 6: My guy has a shiny god round nugget polished. 346 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 2: So it started a few weeks ago. 347 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 6: While cleaning the bathroom, I found a number of long 348 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 6: hair strands over my bathroom wall by the shower. This 349 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 6: struck me as very odd because not only does my 350 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 6: husband not have hair. 351 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 2: He's bald bald. 352 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 6: I also have a very crop short hairstyle, so it's 353 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 6: not possible that the strands I found were mine or 354 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 6: my husband's. Confused, I washed them the way, but I 355 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 6: just couldn't stop thinking about it. Oh, I decided not 356 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:25,719 Speaker 6: to mention it, but I kept looking out for them. 357 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 6: There seems to be a pattern that there's hairs appearing 358 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 6: if I'm at work or out for a longer period. 359 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 5: So she keeps seeing these hairs. Read here bruh fire 360 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 5: marked broh. 361 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, bruhr by it. 362 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 6: I feel like I'm going crazy, and I feel like 363 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 6: I just shouldn't immediately jump to the conclusion that my 364 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 6: husband is cheating on me with a longer haired woman. 365 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 6: I asked my husband about it, and at first he 366 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 6: just shrug already a little. 367 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 5: Suspicious, suspicious, A suspicious shrug. 368 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 6: It's just a suspicious shrug. Say that time five times fast. 369 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 2: Now. 370 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 6: This made me paranoid, as surely this is something that's 371 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 6: so strange he wouldn't be so blase about. I'm starting 372 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 6: to think that he's playing it down and he's trying 373 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 6: to stop me from finding out the truth. 374 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 5: Oh God. 375 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 6: Then it happened again two days ago. I asked my 376 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 6: husband again and he dismissed it, but this time he 377 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 6: did admit that it's strange, but told me the only 378 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 6: explanation was that it must be my hairs. 379 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 5: Oh but she has short hair. 380 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, Opie says, they're not, and that he's going to 381 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 6: keep ignoring it the more she brings it up. Opie says, 382 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 6: I don't want to assume my husband is cheating on 383 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 6: me and accuse him over something so seemingly ridiculous. But 384 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 6: I'm driving myself into the ground trying to work out 385 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 6: how the hair's got there without my husband dismissing it 386 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 6: as nothing. And this is during lockdown, so we haven't 387 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 6: had any visitors of any kind that we know of, 388 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 6: and I. 389 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 2: Could rule out his sister. Now there is an update. 390 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 5: Oh god, what are we going to see? 391 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 2: Here we go? I promise this isn't the ending that 392 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:51,239 Speaker 2: you think it'll have. 393 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 5: Okay. I ultimately decided this part's great. 394 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 6: I ultimately decided against getting a secret camera for the 395 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 6: bathroom because, ironically enough, I didn't want to betray my 396 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 6: partner's trust, though part of me did want to just 397 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 6: squash any worries of someone living in my walls, as 398 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 6: some of the comments said, I. 399 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 5: Thought someone was living in the walls. 400 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 2: No, just someone like being in the wall. 401 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 6: Oh I guess yeah, you're right, someone thought someone was 402 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 6: living in the walls. God, these renditors, they just think 403 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 6: of everything now. I did make a plan, though, to 404 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 6: leave week early, which is something that I've never done before. 405 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 6: My boss allowed me to leave after a half day. 406 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 6: Upon returning home, something seemed to miss. I was expecting 407 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 6: another car on the driveway or parked outside the street. 408 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 6: There was another car that I did not recognize. Quietly 409 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 6: letting myself in, I was immediately confused. In the hallway, 410 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 6: there are a pair of shoes that I didn't recognize. 411 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 6: Oh God, and not only that they looked to be 412 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 6: men's shoes. 413 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 5: Wait what yeh? 414 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 6: Here we go, buckle and buckle on standing in the hallway, 415 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 6: trying to work out what to do, if I should 416 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 6: sneak around or make my presence known. But before I 417 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 6: could decide, my husband walked out into the kitchen with 418 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 6: two cups. 419 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 2: Of tea in his hands. 420 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 6: Oh God, by my husband's face, it was obvious he 421 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 6: was surprised to see me. 422 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 5: I'm on my thoes. We like this is this is 423 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 5: some spooky crap coming up. 424 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 6: Playing along with the naivete I asked my husband how 425 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 6: he could have known I was coming home early to 426 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 6: make me tea, expecting my husband to lie. He surprised 427 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 6: me by sitting me down and explaining everything. 428 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 5: Oh no, what's everything? What's everything? 429 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 2: John? 430 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 6: At the beginning of Lockdown, his friend, someone I'm not 431 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 6: at all close with because we only met once, was evicted. 432 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 6: He lost his job, and ever since then he had 433 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 6: been CouchSurfing. So for some days over the past couple 434 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 6: of weeks, this guy's been traveling to our house and, 435 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 6: with the acceptance of my husband, using our bathroom to 436 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 6: freshen up, to attend to interviews. He was also borrowing 437 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 6: shirts and suits from my husband. As it turns out, 438 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 6: my husband's friend has long hair and a beard. 439 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 5: Oh wow, wait, this is a way of more wholesome. 440 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 6: Ending it like keeps saying like, Okay, this is gonna 441 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 6: be terrible, terrible, terrible. 442 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh wait, this is like wondrously wholesome. 443 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 6: So it turns out my husband isn't cheating on me, 444 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 6: but was hiding the fact that his long haired male 445 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 6: friend was coming over to us a shower. 446 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 5: So basically, your husband's a saint. 447 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 6: Yes, imagine if op had gotten the camera in the bathroom. 448 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 6: Oh god, and then he found out and then he revealed. 449 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 5: That is actually half damn. That is what a turn 450 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 5: of events. I would not have expected that. But I 451 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 5: feel like I feel like he should have told his 452 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 5: wife about it totally. 453 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 6: Like because because it's like, hey, my friend who has 454 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 6: been evicted, like just wants to come over during the 455 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 6: day to take a shower, like that. 456 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 5: You're his long haired friend to come over right when 457 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 5: he knew she was going to come back, Like he 458 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 5: was hiding something. And really it's a long haired girl 459 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 5: that he's been seeing and this is the cover up. 460 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 6: If if that is true, that that is with the 461 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 6: greatest cheater that has ever exist, deserve it. After a shower, 462 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 6: I ended up meeting Dave and he turned out to 463 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 6: be a very nice bloke, just down on his luck. 464 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 6: I wish him the very best for a socially distanced interview, 465 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 6: and he went on his way. I asked my husband 466 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 6: why he didn't just tell me, as I wouldn't have 467 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 6: had a problem with problem with it. Turns out he 468 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 6: was worried about my reaction of me not liking or 469 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 6: approving of the situation. He also told me Dave was 470 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 6: very embarrassed about the whole thing and didn't want people 471 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 6: to know what he was having to do. I told 472 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 6: my husband I was starting to believe that he was cheating, 473 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 6: and he was shocked hearing that, having not even considered 474 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 6: the implications while attempting to cover up for his friend. 475 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 6: I told him the whole thing was ridiculous and even 476 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 6: suggested his friend live with us until he's back on 477 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 6: his feet. 478 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 5: We love a happy ending on okop. We don't get 479 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 5: many of those. We don't, so it's beautiful when they happened. 480 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 5: And if you want to hear the full story go 481 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 5: check us out on Spotify. 482 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 2: We'll see you next time. 483 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 5: See you soon.