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Speaker 1: Abby Monday, it is your Second Date podcast. Thanks so

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Speaker 1: much for being here. It's Brook and Jeffrey in the morning,

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Speaker 1: and I would love in the comments today for people

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Speaker 1: to share the awkward ways their date ended, you know,

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Speaker 1: not all or.

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Speaker 2: Just a simple kiss or a little hog news.

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Speaker 1: Some of them get weird and that definitely happened in

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Speaker 1: today's Second Date Update.

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Speaker 2: Yep, so let us know because you know we love

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Speaker 2: reading your comments. What do you see?

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Speaker 3: Lex Yes seven Ish said, Hey, guys, listening all the

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Speaker 3: way from Malaysia.

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Speaker 4: Cool.

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Speaker 3: I discovered the show through a Second Date Update clip

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Speaker 3: on TikTok and I've been hooked ever since. I started

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Speaker 3: with the Second Date playlist. Then I moved on to

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Speaker 3: Awkward Tuesdays and mass speakers, and now I'm all in

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Speaker 3: on the full show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, I mean you do get a full hour

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Speaker 1: if you somehow want more of this. Remember we have

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Speaker 1: a second podcast feed that is just Brook and Jeffrey.

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Speaker 1: It's the same goofy pictures of us in the in

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Speaker 1: the in the pod, but you'll find it and you

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Speaker 1: can get even more.

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Speaker 2: All right, We're gonna start your Second Date right now.

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Speaker 5: Second Date Update. I'm not sure if you guys remember this.

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Speaker 5: But about six months ago, we did an awkward Tuesday

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Speaker 5: phone call with a listener named Kevin who wanted to

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Speaker 5: ask out his coworker and he was super nervous about

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Speaker 5: it needed our advice. The call wasn't perfect. Yeah, he

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Speaker 5: had some stumbles along the way, But she's sound like

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Speaker 5: every call that we do, absolutely flawless.

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Speaker 2: I'm tried to remember what happened In.

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Speaker 5: The end, she did say yes and agree to a

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Speaker 5: date with him. I guess I don't know. It was

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Speaker 5: a yes bottom line. Now, apparently they went out a

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Speaker 5: few times, things fizzled, didn't quite last. So Kevin has

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Speaker 5: jumped back into the beautiful oasis we call the modern

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Speaker 5: dating pool. And again, that was months ago. So, Kevin,

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Speaker 5: how's it been. Have you had a lot of dates

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Speaker 5: in that time?

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Speaker 4: Like ten ten, ten days?

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Speaker 5: You did dates in the last two years.

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Speaker 2: You're doing some work. Congratulations, you're a catch.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I actually haven't had a second date.

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Speaker 2: But is that from your choosing, Like maybe you didn't

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Speaker 2: want to go out again with any of them.

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Speaker 4: No, I would have been happy to go out with

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, that's hard. You're here we're going to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they haven't been the greatest. I actually had a

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Speaker 4: really bad one. Yeah she was a nice girl, I thought,

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Speaker 4: But when I walked her out to her cards opened

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Speaker 5: Wait what did you say? I did not expect that sentence?

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Speaker 2: That is terrible face? Did she punch you in the face?

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Speaker 4: It was actually in the back of my head. I

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Speaker 4: was opening her door, and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 5: This, like, did you ask permission to open the door

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Speaker 4: Maybe so, I don't know if she thought I was

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Speaker 2: How are you going to kiss her?

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Speaker 5: Maybe she thought that you were trying to steal her car.

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Speaker 4: So.

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Speaker 2: It has to be a self defense.

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Speaker 5: He's not like, give me the keys.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Wasn't that bad? I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Some people give off natural grand theft daughter vibes, so

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Speaker 5: maybe you fell into that category.

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Speaker 2: Ask for you? Okay?

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Speaker 5: Now I am yeah, concu so a sucker punch girl

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Speaker 5: the one you want us to call for a second date. Update,

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Speaker 5: We'll call her fighter. Well, who do you want to call?

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Speaker 4: I've had this really bad luck until I met Chelsea.

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Speaker 5: Chelsea, Okay, it's a new girl.

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Speaker 2: Hey, okay, no physical violence.

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Speaker 5: I hope you'll tell us about your I'm assuming you

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Speaker 5: went on a date with Chelsea.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, she didn't punch me.

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Speaker 5: Actually perfect, we're improving.

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Speaker 4: I thought, a good sign, and we connected the best

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well what made what made it the best?

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Speaker 4: Felt like I could talk to her because like when

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Speaker 4: even though it didn't last very long. Okay, it was

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Speaker 2: Why was it so short?

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm not really sure my friends got by

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Speaker 4: and by your friend? Yeah, I don't really know why.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So you had a friend come by randomly and

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Speaker 4: I make I don't know. That would be weird to me.

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Speaker 5: She got a friend in what.

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Speaker 1: Happens if you're only there for twenty minutes and you

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Speaker 1: fourth of the date, they learned.

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Speaker 5: Trying to play it off. Hey, Brooke, good to see

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Speaker 1: Yeah, are too successful and beautiful.

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Speaker 5: I feel like I normally wouldn't ask this, but I

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Speaker 5: feel like I need to know Chelsea. She's not the barista, right,

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Speaker 5: You're not considering that a date. That's creative, Like she

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Speaker 5: doesn't work there.

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Speaker 4: No, she doesn't work there.

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Speaker 5: Okay, that's a good question. How did it end? Yeah,

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Speaker 5: after the twenty minutes? How did you two leave it?

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Speaker 4: She said she had to do something, so we got

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Speaker 5: Away the same direction.

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Speaker 2: That's like the most awing ever.

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Speaker 5: And then she started to jog, and then you started

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Speaker 5: to jog. You're like, hey, I'm gonna run out of

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Speaker 4: I end up I lost her, I.

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Speaker 1: Lost you, I think, Yeah, that's really Did she know

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Speaker 5: Okay, but you weren't following her. That was just a

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Speaker 5: coincidence you had the same route home.

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Speaker 2: Dude.

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Speaker 1: I hate that even when that happens with my friends,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, get it, you get it all right? So how

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Speaker 5: long has it been since this twenty minute date?

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Speaker 4: I credit two weeks?

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Speaker 2: Two weeks? Okay, I have you reached out much with her?

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Speaker 4: I was texting her quite a bit?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we may, said, yeah, we might.

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Speaker 5: We might find out if you've crossed any lines or

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Speaker 5: how many texts you've actually sent when we call her here.

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Speaker 3: I think it's more how far he did cross.

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Speaker 5: Them, or maybe they were right in that sweet spot.

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Speaker 5: We don't know, Brooke. Remember when you said you had hope.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I do have hope as long as you didn't

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Speaker 2: Head as she was walking away from you.

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Speaker 5: On this he was just trying to make sure she

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Speaker 4: Say when I was on last time, Brooke? You told

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Speaker 4: me to be more certain, So I'm really trying to

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Speaker 5: Yeah, in their car.

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Speaker 2: There's a balance that we need to discuss. But maybe enough.

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Speaker 5: Period and weren't trying to be weird. You were just

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Speaker 2: And maybe that's not why she's not calling me back

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Speaker 5: We're making stuff. Okay, well let's call her and use

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Speaker 5: that assertion to aggressively get you a second date. When

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Speaker 5: we called Chelsea right after this hold on second date update,

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Speaker 5: don't you hate it when you're on a first date

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Speaker 5: and the girl says she has to go and you

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Speaker 5: accidentally follow her all the way home? No, jef, I

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Speaker 1: Was only three blocks to be fair, I mean enough

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but you lost her. That's what happened to our listener, Kevin.

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Speaker 5: Sort of. He wasn't following his date Chelsea on purpose.

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Speaker 5: They just left the coffee shop at the same time,

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Speaker 5: and he coincidentally was walking behind her on the street

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Speaker 5: for a long, long while.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, at any point, did you think I

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Speaker 5: Did that thought come to your mind at all, Kevin,

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Speaker 4: I didn't intentionally walk behind her, because I really did it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you want you want us to let her

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Speaker 5: We're not exactly sure what happened there. We just know

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Speaker 5: kind of short to get to know someone. That's honestly

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Speaker 5: the bigger concern for me, like why did she only

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Speaker 5: stay for twenty minutes? The following is a totally different story.

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Speaker 5: If you were in a hurry, why would you even

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Speaker 5: schedule a date during that time?

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Speaker 1: They were just trying to squeeze it in and it's

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Speaker 1: like one of those pre dates where it's just like

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Speaker 5: You didn't catfish her with like a photo of Liam Hemsworth,

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Speaker 5: me right now, kind of hunky.

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Speaker 4: I'm actually bushing right now. But no, does a name could.

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Speaker 5: Have fooled me. Let's call Chelsea here. We'll see if

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Speaker 5: we can get an explanation from her. If she picks up,

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Speaker 5: all right, here we go. Hello, Hey is this Chelsea?

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Speaker 6: This is who's calling?

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Speaker 5: This is a radio show calling called Brook and Jeffrey

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Speaker 5: in the morning.

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Speaker 6: Hey, Chelsea, Uh what what?

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Speaker 4: What? Is this.

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Speaker 5: This is fun for some of us. It's fun. It's

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Speaker 5: a segment we do call the Second Date Update. And

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Speaker 5: we're looking at sorry.

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Speaker 1: Okay, just listening, just actively listening.

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Speaker 5: By interrupting me. But let's okay. We're trying to help

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Speaker 5: out one of our listeners that you went out on

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Speaker 5: a date with recently. He says he had a really

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Speaker 5: good time with you, but it ended kind of short.

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Speaker 5: His name is Kevin.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm hoping that was a smile and not a laugh.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Sensitive.

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Speaker 5: We're calling because Kevin told us a little bit about

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Speaker 5: your guys' date coffee date, coffee date, and from what

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Speaker 5: we heard, it sound pretty fun.

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Speaker 2: Tame short.

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Speaker 6: That was two weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but he he liked you, He thought you were awesome.

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Speaker 5: He said he's been pursuing it actually and texting you,

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Speaker 2: Did you write him back?

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Speaker 6: From my perspective, he was pretty obvious.

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Speaker 4: Hi, that's what he said.

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Speaker 6: He he said, a friend stopped by.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like that.

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Speaker 4: He's like, well, no, no, don't.

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Speaker 6: He's not engaging in the conversation. He's just my emotional

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Speaker 6: I've had a couple of poor dates, and Charles is

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Speaker 4: Open to the idea.

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Speaker 5: Emotional support friend.

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Speaker 5: We got the impression that he just popped in real

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Speaker 4: No, not at all.

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Speaker 6: He was there the whole time. He wasn't really engaging

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Speaker 6: I mean, he laughed at some of the things that

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we didn't know that was how it played out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because, oh my god, we have an emotional support

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Speaker 6: Kevin's here, what he's on the phone?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's really Actually he wants to talk in this conversation,

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Speaker 1: Okay, if he's there, Keviny there, Yeah, I'm here.

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Speaker 2: How you doing, buddy, I'm good.

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Speaker 4: I'm just I'm listening. Yeah, I don't understand what the

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Speaker 5: When did you get an emotional support bro? You didn't

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, a friend is a friend. He doesn't

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Speaker 5: You sounds like you gave him a title. You you

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Speaker 1: Kevin, you brought him along on the date and didn't

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Speaker 4: I mean, yes, he was there, but he was there

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Speaker 5: Sure, sure, Chelsea. Do you see where he's coming from?

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Speaker 6: I guess. I mean, but you kind of have to

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Speaker 6: it's a little bizarre to just have a third person

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Speaker 4: Yeah, are you mad because he didn't laugh at your

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Speaker 5: I'd be mad. That's a good question, guys, Chelsea.

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Speaker 6: No, not really. I don't think I was particularly funny

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Speaker 4: I didn't need to tell her because he wasn't going

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Speaker 5: So what I think, Kevin, Chelsea is saying that it's

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Kevin, it's a little bit distracting, Kevin.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so it's a little bit distracting, I guess. But

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Speaker 5: Oh you paying.

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Speaker 5: Well, I do think that would be better. That's that's

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Speaker 2: Awkward Kevin?

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Speaker 5: I mean, people need to tell him we left the rest.

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Speaker 6: Of the day.

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Speaker 5: But the blindfolded a ball game, you can't see, you

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Speaker 2: Compare the both of you. Emotional support is totally normal

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but dogs can't laugh.

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Speaker 4: At jokes exactly. And it was a good date.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't.

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Speaker 6: Did you hear it wasn't a good date. I am

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Speaker 5: Sounds like you need an emotional support friend to deal

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Speaker 4: She keeps having to go, and I think that's true.

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Speaker 1: She's not interested, and I don't know that you're going

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Speaker 2: Has to be there with you. But a dog, a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, emotional for animals are kind of weird. I prefer people.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, well maybe again, maybe just follow her home

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Speaker 5: Stops brook Jeffrey in the morning, Man, I don't say

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Speaker 5: this about many people, but this show is an open

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Speaker 1: Is he the only one that pushes back on dogs

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Speaker 2: They're not, Kevin. People are your problem.

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Speaker 2: Are better than bele Yes, get the right emotional support.

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Speaker 5: Actually, wait, did his emotional support friend follow Chelsea home too?

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Speaker 5: If there's two guys following you, now, I kind of

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Speaker 1: You didn't understand the creepiness when the guy was sitting

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Speaker 5: The date itself was pretty odd. Yeah, I mean he's

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Speaker 2: No better ways.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, way hoped you should have done a FaceTime totally.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he honestly could have had him on

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Speaker 5: There's lots of life lessons to be taken from these segments,

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Speaker 5: and you can go find them online wherever you get

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Speaker 5: your podcast at Brook and Jeffrey and then email the show.

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Speaker 5: We can call that person who wasn't calling you back

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Speaker 2: Brook and Jeffrey in the morning.