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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast from the Volume Podcast Network.

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Speaker 1: It is Tuesday afternoon. We have play in games starting

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Speaker 1: tonight and tomorrow night. Playoffs will officially begin on Saturday May.

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Speaker 1: Plenty of time for people to take what we teach

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Speaker 1: them and make their plays in a few minutes. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna have Action Network Senior editor controlling our NBA coverage,

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Speaker 1: Malik Smith, along with Action Network Senior NB A writer, analyst,

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Speaker 1: extraordinary air host of heat Check on at Action Network,

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Speaker 1: Gauge Q, host of our bet cast that we did

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Speaker 1: with the NBA this past year, Matt war We're going

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Speaker 1: to get to all that. Simon Hunter, my bff, my companion,

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Speaker 1: my best friend in the world. How you doing. It's

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Speaker 1: doing good, buddy at a nice had a nice weekend.

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Speaker 1: How's your weekend? My weekend was amazing. It's beautiful weather.

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Speaker 1: I spent five hours on Saturday afternoon reading a book

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Speaker 1: and it was awesome. Hopefully outside. Yeah, I was outside.

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Speaker 1: And then Sunday it was like crappy weather for part

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Speaker 1: of the day, so I got to watch a lot

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Speaker 1: of NBA. I watched the Wizards, Hornets. Uh, the Hornets

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Speaker 1: announcers continue to be to me after Stacy King and

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Speaker 1: Adam a Mean from my beloved Bulls, the Hornets announcers

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Speaker 1: are revelation. I think his name is Eric Collins, the

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Speaker 1: play by play guy for the Hornets, and he is

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Speaker 1: so good and so fun, and that team is actually

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be pretty decent. Like I like the way

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Speaker 1: Terry Rozio has been playing. Obviously, we love lamel PJ Washington,

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Speaker 1: Miles Bridges, Cody Zeller even plays hard like that team.

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Speaker 1: That team's got a shot to be pretty good eventually,

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Speaker 1: not not yet. And then I watched Steph. I watched

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Speaker 1: Stephan the Warriors, and it was amazing. On Sunday afternoon, Um, Simon, Chad,

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Speaker 1: you completely with I was gonna I thought you were

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about Justin Fields rookie minicamp. Well, I did

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Speaker 1: watch every single second video from Justin Fields rookie minicamp uh,

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Speaker 1: and I think he looked amazing. I think he was

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Speaker 1: throwing a tight spiral. I think he was accurate. I

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Speaker 1: think everybody was really excited about him. I can't wait

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Speaker 1: for him to be QB three on the depth chart

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Speaker 1: when the season opens, and for the Bears to find

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Speaker 1: a way to ruin him. I'm super excited about all that.

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Speaker 1: Let's say this is the best because it's just a

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Speaker 1: guy in shorts and a helmet and you can't go

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Speaker 1: wrong right now. So this is like the happiest time

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Speaker 1: of having a rookie quarterback. It's all happy right now.

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Speaker 1: I think it was when the Bears drafted Kate McNown

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Speaker 1: Maybe he was the twelfth overall pick, and I had

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Speaker 1: decided I pitched ESPN the magazine, and they had accepted.

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Speaker 1: When I was working there a story about those first

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Speaker 1: five days of a rookie mini camp and almost like

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Speaker 1: what happens from the second to draft ends until that

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Speaker 1: mini camp is done, because there's so much activity, right

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Speaker 1: so they really left me behind the scenes. And I

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Speaker 1: was there when they were trying to sign undrafted free

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Speaker 1: agents and you can talk about the dominant impact that

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Speaker 1: has on building depth on a team and whatever, but

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Speaker 1: I also went to go meet Kay McNown at O'Hare

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Speaker 1: I figured out what flight he was on and when

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Speaker 1: the baggage terminal, I see Kay McNown standing by himself

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Speaker 1: how the Bears treat their first round quarterbacks. Their future quarterback,

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Speaker 1: Kate McNown was by himself a baggage claim and that

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure justin flew private, so it's it's definitely

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Speaker 1: updated since the times have changed. Times have changed. How's uh,

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Speaker 1: how was your date with your queen? Oh? I got

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Speaker 1: two dates? I know. Put this out there. This is

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Speaker 1: just so weird. Like I tried not to tell her exactly.

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Speaker 1: I think someone told her about my life and like

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Speaker 1: hearing it for like a third party, this like she

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Speaker 1: hut like I don't know. I think you just got

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Speaker 1: a perception. I'm just like true full on degenerate, which

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Speaker 1: something real balls, you're gonna like this. I sent her

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Speaker 1: my ex's phone number, and I said, you can hit

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Speaker 1: because she'll give you an honest opinion, all the good

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit here and defend myself about the

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Speaker 1: life I live. So I pretty much put the batter

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Speaker 1: me if you don't love my job. It's kind of

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Speaker 1: a package deal. This is amazing. So I do want

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Speaker 1: to get to the week in that. But I got

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Speaker 1: two more questions on this and a common commentary. Uh,

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Speaker 1: number one, number one, number one, um, number one. I

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Speaker 1: know for a fact that you had two dates with her.

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Speaker 1: I know you guys went out last Thursday night, and

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Speaker 1: I know you were going out again on Friday night.

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Speaker 1: I know this because we texted about it and how

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Speaker 1: did you but we didn't get into detail. How did

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Speaker 1: that is usually coming up in the first few minutes

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Speaker 1: of any conversation, any meet and greet. How how do

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Speaker 1: you be vague about that and have the conversation continue

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Speaker 1: where she's not like this guy's sketchy. I am very sketchy.

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Speaker 1: I'll start off with that. But I did. I did

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Speaker 1: tell her I did this show, and I told her

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Speaker 1: I tell her I was a desert rat for years

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Speaker 1: and lived in Vegas and like like have a second

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Speaker 1: to that. It's just a lot to put on there, Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't want this girl thinking I laundered money for

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Speaker 1: like anything crazy like that, Like I don't live some

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Speaker 1: But on date two, I don't know. I didn't know

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Speaker 1: That's that's part of the deal. So she here's the

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Speaker 1: we are now your cover story. That is amazing. You

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Speaker 1: are leading. You are leading in your your attempt to

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Speaker 1: get back into to the romantic life. You are leading

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Speaker 1: co host the podcast The Favorites. If nothing else, I

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Speaker 1: feel like I've given you a gift number one, number two,

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Speaker 1: number two. Uh what what did she ask you specifically

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Speaker 1: She was like, how like what do I what? I

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Speaker 1: to have like joint bank accounts? And I was like, sure,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I was just like hoping, you know,

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Speaker 1: It's already fractured. But I'm glad I got back out there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's nice to actually go on a

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Speaker 1: So that's nice. I'm not crying myself to sleep anymore,

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Speaker 1: so I'll take it. I love that you can love again.

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Speaker 1: because we know, come football season, there's no competing for

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Speaker 1: your time and attention, as you've stated publicly. Now, first

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Speaker 1: Malik Smith, Matt Moore NBA Playoffs. I'm loving the play

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Speaker 1: but uh, it's amazing, Like Sunday was an awesome NBA day.

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Speaker 1: Matt Moore as someone who has covered the NBA for

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Speaker 1: one of the most connected people. What was your what

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Speaker 1: end of a regular season. I think it was great.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a I think it's a great way

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Speaker 1: about like, well, actually, you know, Memphis versus Golden State,

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Speaker 1: the next round versus either Boston or uh Indian or

428
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, versus the Wizards. I already took, though I

429
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Speaker 1: took Wizards to make the playoffs the plus four fifty,

430
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Speaker 1: so I'm already on the Ornates, but I'm a sespecially

431
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 1: on them in this game versus Indiana. I liked the

432
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 1: spot for them a lot. The Pacers coaching situation is interesting.

433
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,159
Speaker 1: This was a guy who came in so heralded assistant

434
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: to Nick Nurse, had come up through the ranks, you

435
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 1: know that that that coaching tree, and gets there and

436
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 1: it feels like, honest to god, players are yelling at

437
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 1: him as they go up and down the floor, almost

438
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 1: mouthing off to him. What what is going on there? Like, Malik,

439
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 1: you're shaking your head, Matt, both of you. Malague you first,

440
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 1: how did this thing go off the rails? And what

441
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 1: is he doing wrong to make everybody hate him? It

442
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 1: seems like just everything is off right, like nothing's going well.

443
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,120
Speaker 1: I mean they've they've had injuries kind of hanging over

444
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 1: their head all season, and I think that probably just

445
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 1: set them off in the wrong, uh direction. Right. Oladipo

446
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 1: when he was still on the team, was kind of

447
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:58,919
Speaker 1: coming back from an injury. He was already heard t J.

448
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 1: Warren was out early. Um Sabonis has been in and out,

449
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: Broaden has been in and out, Miles Turners out. Um.

450
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: Like the just the chemistry of the team I think

451
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 1: is just generally off. Um. He's a new coach personally.

452
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 1: I don't understand why they got rid of Nate McMillan.

453
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 1: He was I think at least, you know, granted they

454
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 1: weren't winning championships, are competing for championships, but they were

455
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,439
Speaker 1: better than they are on this season, even though they

456
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Speaker 1: have basically the same roster. Um. I think my guess

457
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:30,479
Speaker 1: is that he came in and he wanted to do

458
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 1: certain things that the players didn't want to do. Uh,

459
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:37,640
Speaker 1: and that clashing just continued and continued. Um. Matt obviously

460
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: might have more intel than I would, but I think overall,

461
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 1: like you just, they just took a lot of hits

462
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Speaker 1: this season, and when you're the coach, I think oftentimes

463
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Speaker 1: you get blamed for that. They probably shouldn't have trade

464
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: change coaches in general from last season, and as a

465
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Speaker 1: Knicks fan, I know a lot about coaches being fired

466
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 1: for no reason. Um, but I think overall, like you know,

467
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: you come in and if you don't, if the guys

468
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: don't click with you right away, it's kind of hard

469
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Speaker 1: for you to pick it up in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the season, especially when the season starts to get tough

471
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Speaker 1: and things get you know, really difficult, and guys are

472
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Speaker 1: in and out and people are injured. UM. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's been a struggle for for the Pacers really

474
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Speaker 1: from the start um, and I think everyone's just kind

475
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Speaker 1: of upset at each other because they aren't as good

476
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Speaker 1: as they were expecting to be. I think mostly, look,

477
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Speaker 1: the deal is he's a great X as a nose coach,

478
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 1: and everybody on that team is kind of vouch for that.

479
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 1: They're like they like the X as a nose side

480
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Speaker 1: of it, it's a bonus. In particular when the first

481
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Speaker 1: month when they were just crushing, it was real high

482
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Speaker 1: on how they were playing. Now part of that's because

483
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: the bonus is usage has gone up, like he gets

484
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Speaker 1: the ball more and gets more shots and assist, but

485
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: which helps his bonuses. I think McMillan was probably a

486
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Speaker 1: casualty of not wanting to pay more money, especially with

487
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 1: the economic downturn caused by the pandemic. Like these things

488
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 1: are all connected. You have to follow the dots um

489
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Speaker 1: when it comes to York, and I think the biggest

490
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 1: thing to keep in on with your friend is he's

491
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 1: really good xces and os, but he never really connected

492
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: with them. And the NBA you can't just it's not college.

493
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 1: You don't get to just barket guys. That's not how

494
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: it works. The power dynamic is so radically different and

495
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: you have to adjust for that. And part of it

496
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: is you're coming from this. Assistants often have this difficulty

497
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 1: where there they get to yell at guys because the

498
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: head coach is the one that manages the relationships, and

499
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: then they take over and they have to manage the

500
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: relationships and the XS and os and the media and

501
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: the conversations with the executives and all of that, and

502
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: that gets to be a problem. And that's really what

503
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: comes down to is it's not that he's not a

504
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 1: good coach, it's that nobody wants to play for him

505
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 1: because they hate him. And that's been the issue. Now

506
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 1: McConnell's pushed back on it, so Bonus is pushed back

507
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: on it, Holidays pushed back on it. There's been some

508
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: pushback on the reports. It's clear that there are people

509
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Speaker 1: in the organization like the reporting done on that by

510
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Speaker 1: Jake Fisher and s I like, he's he's he is,

511
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: he's reputable, he's reliable. Um, from what I understand, it's

512
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: it's one of those situations where yeah, like there are

513
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 1: guys that think it's that bad. But that's the difference

514
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: is whenever there are these situations you always say people

515
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 1: they're like, yes, it is that bad, and then you

516
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,360
Speaker 1: have some people are like, oh, it's bad, but it's

517
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: not that bad. And then you have some people that

518
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 1: are like, well, I don't have a problem with it,

519
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: and like those are the kind of separate situations that

520
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: have unfolded. I do think though, it makes the Pacers

521
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: really difficult to back and high leverage situations because they

522
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 1: do not have like, you've got to stay together when

523
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: things get tough in the playoffs, and I don't have

524
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 1: any faith that they can do that in a playing tournament,

525
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: let alone a playoff series. Don't you guys think this

526
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 1: line is a trap? Like it feels like everything you

527
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: just said makes this seem like too good to be true.

528
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: And I don't get why the bookmakers really haven't moved

529
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 1: it much. It's moved maybe a point point in the

530
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: half since open at three. It's just interesting that people

531
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: seem like they're coming in heavy on the Hornets and

532
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 1: it really hasn't moved that much. On the Pacers set.

533
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: It went up and then it went up to four,

534
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: and then it came back down and it would dip

535
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 1: down to one and a half. Uh, And that's Uh,

536
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: that's where it was a little while ago, and now

537
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: it's back up to two. So it's these playing games

538
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: actually have bounced all over the place. Like we could

539
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: talk about that with Celtics Wizards to the Wizards, Like

540
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: Wizards initially open minus one. Then a bunch of books

541
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: came out at Celtics minus one, and so the other

542
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: books follow them and then moved to Celtics minus two,

543
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 1: and then there was a move back on the Wizards.

544
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: Like that's what's been fascinating with these playing games. Nobody

545
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: knows how to bet it, and so you have you

546
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: have a lot of line movement coming in that I

547
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: think has influenced it. I will say this, I think

548
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 1: the Hornets, most of the Hornets are gonna look bad

549
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: in models, right, So like in my whole thesis is

550
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: they're better built for these one game environments or specific

551
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: playoff series. Then they are across the regular season no

552
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: Gordon Hayward, right, And then the thing's just like the

553
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: Pacers are gonna model better because they had that early

554
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: surge that helped their like point differential and all their

555
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: advanced metrics. They're gonna get power rated and they're they're

556
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: at home so with with fans, so like, there's those factors.

557
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: To me, I agree that if you look at it,

558
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: you're like, wait, how does LeVert going out not move this?

559
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: I think it's mostly looks. The Bonus is gonna play,

560
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: Brogden's gonna play. They have more talent. The Hornets don't

561
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: have Gordon Hayward, and the Hornet Felt model is a

562
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: very good team. I like the Hornets in specific matchups

563
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: very well. Um. And that's one of the reasons why

564
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: I think this line is produced the way house Benn

565
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: the grand Oh god, uh uh, I bet Matt the

566
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: I I didn't bet you. I bet Comma that more

567
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: Comma the Lakers at plus four fifty when they were

568
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: basically at their lowest point late in the season. You

569
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: had an article on Action Network network dot com talking

570
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: about when to bet the Lakers for the NBA title.

571
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: Put that in context of the playing game against the Warriors.

572
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: So my argument was go ahead and wait. Um. I

573
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: reached out to bookmakers and actually asked them how much

574
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: of the are the Lakers odds going to move if

575
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: they make it out of the play in and they

576
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: said not much. It's already factored in like most things

577
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: with lines. The bookmakers are ahead of you. They already

578
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: when the when the Lakers, basically, when the Blazers beat

579
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: the Lakers a few weeks ago. That put into motion

580
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: a series of events where the Lakers were likely to

581
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: wind up a seventh. They were projected there increasingly as

582
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Speaker 1: as the weeks went on, and the bookmakers obviously knew that,

583
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: and so they knew that there was they had to

584
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Speaker 1: factor in the inherent risk that the Lakers could lose

585
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: twice and be bounced, and so that's already priced in.

586
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: But the difference is they're expecting them to win anyway.

587
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: Their implied probability is extremely high. So after the play

588
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: in tournament, those numbers are not going to go down

589
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: much like there's not an expectation of them. There's a

590
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: five hundreds that's floating out there, between four hundred and

591
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: five hundreds where you can find it at places. I

592
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: don't expect it to dip any depending on what book

593
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: you use, any further than like three fifty. I don't

594
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: think it'll go any lower than that after the plan

595
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: if at all. Like some boatmakers were like, we're not

596
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: gonna move it. It's that's what we we expect them

597
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: to win. They're staying there, so you're still gonna get

598
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: good value that My argument was wait till after the

599
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: play in and that way you don't get hit with UH.

600
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: Steph goes off for forty five contagious Caldwell Pope misses

601
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: eight threes, and then the following game, Lebron tweaks his

602
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: ankle and John Moran hits a buzzer beater like these

603
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: two game environments. That's why Lebron was so mad is

604
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: he knows, like, if you don't have it one night,

605
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: if it's just like the shots aren't falling and the

606
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: other teams rolling, that's it. You're going home. That's why

607
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: he was so mad about it. And so from my perspective, UM,

608
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: I think the best values to wait until after the

609
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: play tournament. They will win. I feel confident they're gonna win.

610
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: They're gonna win one of them, come hell or high

611
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: water or whatever else has to happen. And after that,

612
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: I think you can definitely still get a really good

613
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: price on the Laker is to win UH the Western

614
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: Conference title and to make the playoffs. Now never in mind,

615
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: like I already had the Lakers about a million ways

616
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: from throughout the season from preseason especially, I have Lakers

617
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: Like I've added Lakers Nets finals matchups throughout the season

618
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: at various prices. So like, I'm not you know that

619
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: that's something to consider, but I do think that there's

620
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: um a significant value in waiting to make sure you

621
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: don't get burned by this play in tournament with Lebron

622
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: on a bad angle in a really weird season. And

623
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: before I get to my six years question the league,

624
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: have you ever heard of a seven or eight seed

625
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: being favored over a one or two seed that we

626
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: might see with the Lakers? Like is this are we

627
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: seeing history right now? Yeah? It's kind of wild, right,

628
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: especially because of all the things that that Matt was saying.

629
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: I feel like there's there's a lot of people who

630
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: think that Lebron's just gonna somehow. We've seen a be

631
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: superhuman most of his career, if not all of his career, right,

632
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: but like he clearly he what they played the Pelicans

633
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: in the final game, he does that spin move towards

634
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: the end and he kind of got up and he

635
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: was limping, and I think everyone was like, oh Jesus,

636
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: here we go again. Um, So yeah, I think it

637
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: is kind of interesting that everyone just assumes that the Lakers,

638
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: even if they win against the Warriors and have a

639
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: little bit of rest time, should be for some reason

640
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: favored against the Sons, who are really really good team.

641
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: It'll be a great series, I think, and I think

642
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: the Lakers have a very good chance at winning. I

643
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: think they have a good chance at beating any team

644
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: if they're healthy, but they're not so. I think there's

645
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: this perception that the Lakers will just somehow manage to

646
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: get healthy magically. Um, and that's not necessarily going to

647
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: be the case. I think there we have to look

648
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: at them as a different team. They are. They have

649
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: a lot of the same players, they have all the

650
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: experience and all of those things, but Lebron is not

651
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: the same version of himself that he has been in

652
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: the past, and I think that fundamentally changes how we

653
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: look at this team. I still think that the Lakers

654
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: have the talent to make the finals. Uh, but it's

655
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: not as a foregone conclusion as people are making it

656
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: seem like, oh r, I p to the Sons, Uh,

657
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: they have to play the Lakers in in, you know,

658
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: the first round. I think the Suns are looking at it, like,

659
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: bring it on. You're telling me Chris Paul doesn't one

660
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: of the lebron James you know in the playoffs, like

661
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: they don't seem to be afraid. They're not, they don't

662
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 1: seem to be ducking anyone. They're like, hey, if we

663
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: if we end U playing them, then we're gonna play them,

664
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: and whoever wins wins. So we talked about it last week.

665
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: I couldn't get over that. I thought there was just

666
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 1: a ton of value in the Sixers, And I'm wondering

667
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: where your guys dow and approaches to them this playoffs.

668
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: Where we talked last week, there plus four hundred East,

669
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: Now they're down to plus three hundred. There plus a

670
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: thousand to win the NBA Championship. Now they're down to

671
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 1: plus seven hundred. A lot of books. So I'm just wondering.

672
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: Obviously people are coming in on the Sixers. Now you

673
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: guys actually view this team with you know, we knowing

674
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: what we know about him. Bid is he the kind

675
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 1: of guy that he can really carry this team through

676
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:46,919
Speaker 1: the playoffs and they're gonna be one of these teams

677
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 1: that can actually make a trip to the finals. I

678
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: would bet. Now I'll tell you that right now. Um So,

679
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: a lot of it comes down to and be this

680
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: season was literally the third US mid rain shooter in

681
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: the entire NBA. Those are difficult shots to make, and

682
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: he's done it consistently throughout the entire season. He's a

683
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: volume mid rain shooter. Like, that's a lot of it.

684
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: The bigger problem, honestly, is that he's got a turnover

685
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: rate when doubled through the course of a season. As

686
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: they get used to it, Like there are certain matchups

687
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: I think he's just gonna wreck, Like he'll just wreck

688
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: certain matchups. And honestly, like one of the reasons I

689
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: think they're odd shorten was when they started to lock

690
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,720
Speaker 1: up that one seed because they avoid that Bucks Nets

691
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: second round slug fest that we're gonna see and the

692
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: team that comes out of that may be exhausted. Like

693
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: there are like writean Palmer, our colleague that joins us

694
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: on the Action Network NBA podcast. He one of his

695
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: like going more paradigms going into these playoffs is that

696
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: the Nets and Bucks winner is gonna be exhausted and

697
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: the Sixers are gonna be able to beat up on him.

698
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 1: My concern is that I think you need pull up shooting.

699
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: I think you need guys that when it gets into

700
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: crunch time you can go to and be like, that

701
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: guy's gonna have to get you a bucket off the bounce.

702
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: Tobias Harris is like, you're maybe your second or third

703
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: option there. It's not gonna be Ben. I love Ben.

704
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: I think Ben Simmons should be defensive Player of the Year.

705
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: I bet him too. He's not gonna win, but I

706
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: think he's phenomenal. I think he's underrated. I also think

707
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: he's taken a step back with how the team has evolved,

708
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: and I wonder what that means for his future. It's

709
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: not gonna be Seth Curry says, the spot up shooter.

710
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,760
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be Danny Green. Same deal, Shake Milton

711
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: like I like shake. I like shake a lot tyres Maxie.

712
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: I like those guys a lot. That's not who I

713
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: want taking shots that they're trading buckets late down the

714
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: stretch versus Drew Holiday, Chris Middleton. Not to mention Janice

715
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: U or Katie Kyrie Harden, Like that gets very difficult.

716
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: The Sixers have built their their season success on defense

717
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: and Beid and spot up three point shooting, which is

718
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: a pretty good model if MBI was a little bit

719
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 1: better pass her, but he's not, and so when they

720
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 1: start to run up against schemes that are specifically designed

721
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: to mess with him, I have concerns about their ability

722
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,439
Speaker 1: to get through. I don't think it's a bad bet.

723
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: They are a very good overall team, Like if you're

724
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Speaker 1: just betting, like I want to bet on like the

725
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: strongest team there are number one in the East for

726
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: a reason. They've been great. They're on off metrics with

727
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: embat or the best, like they're better than Yoga is.

728
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: They're better. The Sixers are better within beat on court

729
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: than the Nuggets are when Yoga is on the court,

730
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: which is pretty impressive considering Yoga is gonna win M

731
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Speaker 1: v P. I just don't know if the playoffs are

732
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: gonna are gonna be the same deal. Well, it's so

733
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: interesting with the Sixers, and it's interesting, you know the Sixers,

734
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: And what's interesting Darryl Morey, who you know, spent so

735
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: many years reimagining what offenses look like in UH Houston

736
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: and living and dying by the three point shot, the

737
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: efficiency of making a shot that's worth three verse two.

738
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: All of a sudden he's got this team because it's

739
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: built around Embiad that is entirely different offensively, and they've

740
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 1: been incredibly effective in a a really powerful team team offensively,

741
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: and it's reflective of what has happened this entire year.

742
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 1: Greatest season in two point shooting history in the NBA,

743
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: greatest three point shooting season, greatest foul shooting season. Two questions,

744
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: is now the time to start fading high powered offenses,

745
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 1: betting on against high totals and believing that the best

746
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:36,760
Speaker 1: team defensively has the best chance to win the NBA

747
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 1: playoffs to win the title. Matt, you start two questions,

748
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: answer them both, please. I think for me, specifically, you

749
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 1: have to go with it based off of matchups. I

750
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: think the NBA playoffs are all about matchups. I think

751
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 1: it's not just player versus player, which is how we've

752
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: traditionally thought of it. It's what can you do? Like

753
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 1: I've started to reimagine deefen it this way. It's not

754
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: about how good your defense is. That's why Utah, it's

755
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: been a top five defense every single season the last

756
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: five years, hasn't made the conference finals. It's not about

757
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: how good your defense is. Which is why Milwaukee, the

758
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 1: best defense in the league the last two seasons, has

759
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: only made the conference finals once and hasn't made the

760
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: finals despite all their firepower. It's can you solve the

761
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: defensive problem in front of you? It's when presented with

762
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: these different situations from series to series, can you adapt? Right?

763
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 1: The Lakers can adapt their physical They can play eight

764
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: at five, they can switch, they can hedge, they can

765
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: blitz you, they can trap you. They can drop and

766
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 1: make and say make We're gonna make you make jump

767
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: shots that. They can do whatever they need to. The

768
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: nets surprisingly actually profile this way. But if you're asking me,

769
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 1: like with all these offenses, is it across the board

770
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: gonna be lower? I think the numbers are gonna reflect

771
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: for that because they expect it to be tougher. I

772
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: think your numbers are, like the totals are gonna go down,

773
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: it's gonna be tighter. I think in general, it's more

774
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,240
Speaker 1: about finding situations where you know what this team performs

775
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: really well versus what that team does and they can't

776
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 1: do anything else. Like I think Portland and Denver is

777
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,439
Speaker 1: a good situation here to look at this. Portland can't

778
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: play anything but drop that's what they do, is like

779
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: they just dropping pick and roll situations. Okay, but one

780
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: of the things that they do is they stay home

781
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,760
Speaker 1: on shooters. The Nuggets don't have a pick and roll creator.

782
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Speaker 1: Now that Jamal Murray's out Wilbarton's banged up, they don't

783
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: have one. So that's a series I'm probably gonna be

784
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,439
Speaker 1: looking at unders, But other ones, I think I'm probably

785
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: gonna be looking for overs, especially like I think Miami

786
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: Milwaukee is a series I'm probably gonna be a leaning

787
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,919
Speaker 1: towards the over to start with, based off of how

788
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: those two teams can attack one another. Moak, you know

789
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,760
Speaker 1: what this means? What's that? Take it back to the beginning.

790
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: The New York Knickerbockers are shaping up as a value

791
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: play to win the NBA title because of their ferocious

792
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:07,720
Speaker 1: defense and their underrated offense. I would love, love, love

793
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: to believe that that is true. But as much as

794
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: I've watched this team, I think Matt made a really

795
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: good point about matchups right. They unfortunately don't have uh

796
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 1: uh Mitchell Robinson playing center. And as great as the

797
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: defense has still been and as fantastic as Neurone's Noel

798
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 1: has been. He's really undersized, right, So if they end

799
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Speaker 1: up let's say they get out of the you know,

800
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Speaker 1: first round, and they play the Sixers. As as much

801
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: as I think that the Knicks are a great team,

802
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: and if they'll fight as hard as you possibly can

803
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: and take their pound of flesh, as people love to

804
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:48,240
Speaker 1: say that they're just undersized, like indeed, can just bully

805
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: them down low. I mean, what are you gonna throw

806
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: Todd Gibson and Neurone's no while on him, like he's

807
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: just gonna feast all day. So, um, the defense, I

808
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Speaker 1: think we'll definitely carry the Knicks past the first round.

809
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: I feel very confident in that I think we match

810
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 1: up well with a team like Atlanta. Um. But I

811
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Speaker 1: don't think that just because they have a great defense

812
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: all season that they will be able to somehow that'll

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Speaker 1: mask the fact that that you know, nearls Well just

814
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: makes amazing plays, amazing blocks, right, But like you could

815
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Speaker 1: just just beat him up, right, I would just absolutely

816
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: beat him up down low, and that that's kind of

817
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: what I'm worried about with him now. If somehow or

818
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: another Mitchell Robinson can come back in the middle of

819
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Speaker 1: the playoffs and maybe kind of give them a little

820
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 1: bit of a boost, and you know, as a backup center,

821
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Speaker 1: um coming off injury, maybe maybe I'm not gonna I'm

822
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: not gonna you know, downplay my own team here. But

823
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Speaker 1: but but I don't see that being the case because

824
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: I just don't think that they match up well with

825
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 1: teams that have big centers that can really bruise them

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Speaker 1: down load. That's what I don't get though. Like the

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Speaker 1: sixth My whole Sixers point is, like you talked about there,

828
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Speaker 1: to get beat up. The Bucks and Nets are gonna

829
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Speaker 1: be battling and they're gonna come play the Sixers at home.

830
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: So the Sixers say they win Game one against either

831
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Speaker 1: those teams, what do you make that serious prices? If

832
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: it's the Net of the Bucks, aren't you like there

833
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: are you finding yourself an amazing hedge position? Even if

834
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Speaker 1: you take the Sixers now plus three hundred, where no

835
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: matter what Sixers win Game one, they got home court,

836
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Speaker 1: they're gonna become a favorite either even if they're playing

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Speaker 1: the Nets or the Books. Yeah, I think that's a

838
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Speaker 1: good I think that's actually really that's a really good

839
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Speaker 1: position to take, right because I will say this, if

840
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: the Sixers win game one and it's the Nets. I

841
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: think they're still dogs. I think the Sixers are still dogs.

842
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 1: I think if the Box lose game one, then this

843
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Speaker 1: probably goes from like the Box is a slight dog

844
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Speaker 1: to Boxes a more significant dog after game one and

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Speaker 1: maybe that's when you can hedge. Um. I think that

846
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: that's like probably the best spot. The Nets are gonna

847
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: be hard, like they'd have to go go down oh

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Speaker 1: two in order to get to be that. I think

849
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Speaker 1: the dog the number you're gonna want to hedge. It's like,

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Speaker 1: that's really the now this is the counter that though,

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Speaker 1: is You're like, well, look, if it's the Nets, I'm

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Speaker 1: good any way. Because their center options are DeAndre Jordan's

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Speaker 1: and Claxton, and Claxton's is much like Noel great switch

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Speaker 1: defender can't handle and beat in the post. Jordan is

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Speaker 1: more physical, but the Nets overall defense it does have

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Speaker 1: some leaky spots in it, so even if m Bead

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Speaker 1: struggles a little bit with those doubles, they can scheme

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Speaker 1: out ways for him to pass out of it and

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Speaker 1: theyke another pass and then be able to hit wide

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Speaker 1: open shooters on the other side. Like that's where the

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Speaker 1: Nets struggle, Like I can give you the argument there,

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Speaker 1: but that's a pretty decent matchup. I think Milwaukee honestly

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Speaker 1: is like the scarier matchup for them. Like everyone's out

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Speaker 1: on Milwaukee and the Bucks I think are a much

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Speaker 1: scarier matchup. They got Brook Lopez, who's a mountain of

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Speaker 1: a man. That dude is huge, and they will still

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Speaker 1: send doubles and he's gonna get his. But the question

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Speaker 1: is can you beat the overall firepower what Milwaukee brings,

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Speaker 1: and like that's a different question. That's what's really fascinating

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Speaker 1: is that is that Nets Bucks one. I don't know

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Speaker 1: where to go with it. I really don't. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna once those two teams get up to oh

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Speaker 1: and I don't have to worry about them getting upset.

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Speaker 1: I'm transitioning and just gonna be doing deep dives on

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Speaker 1: Nets Bucks to try and figure the went out. But

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Speaker 1: in the in the conference finals, the nets of this

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Speaker 1: heavy favorites, like I would probably go like the other

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Speaker 1: way where it's like the nets of the favorite in

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Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference. I think you're gonna give a good

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Speaker 1: price on the Sixers to win that series if they're

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Speaker 1: in the Eastern Conference finals. If it's Net sixers, alright,

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Speaker 1: time for rapid Fire. Here's what I want, no explanation.

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Speaker 1: Each of you give me your finals matchup, Simon your first.

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Speaker 1: This feels like it's pretty easy. It feels like everyone's

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Speaker 1: ever thinking it Sixers, Clippers, block it up. It feels

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Speaker 1: like that's what it's been destined to be all season.

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Speaker 1: That's what it's gonna have, being so Sixers and Clippers

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Speaker 1: a week. I'm gonna say Lakers Bucks, Matt Moore Clippers Nets. Wow.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy that we're all going with different matchups. I'm

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Speaker 1: going with Clippers Bucks. Wow. Omen that is insane. This

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