Speaker 1: All right, welcome to episode one the Bobby Cast. Thanks
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Speaker 1: So without those guys, we would not be able to
Speaker 1: do this. And with us is songwriter Ross compliment, Hey boy,
Speaker 1: good to see you. Good to see you. So before
Speaker 1: we kind of get into talk about stuff, I just
Speaker 1: kind of want to run through and let people know
Speaker 1: kind of what we're dealing with here with Ross. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play some of Ross's songs here because Ross
Speaker 1: is uh world renown songwriter written songs like scene and
Speaker 1: we're gonna get too all day Keith Urban John Dear,
Speaker 1: how about Glory Georgia Confession, Low Cas, I know somebody
Speaker 1: Kenny set in the World on Fire. We Luke Brian
Speaker 1: strip it down. You have a lot. There's mane Hewny
Speaker 1: number ones. Do you have fourteen number one? So there's
Speaker 1: a lot, and we'll get to a lot of these
Speaker 1: as we go. You know, as I start to look
Speaker 1: at these songs here, for example, this one setting the
Speaker 1: World on Fire. So I was told the story before
Speaker 1: and I didn't know it was a secret or I
Speaker 1: just couldn't. It just could have came out of my
Speaker 1: mouth because Kenny never told me it was a secret
Speaker 1: when he told me this. So Kenny and I are
Speaker 1: sitting around and he says, hey, you know because setting
Speaker 1: the wall on fire, it was just about it was
Speaker 1: it was just about to be number one. And Kenny
Speaker 1: are sitting next to each other and he goes, hey,
Speaker 1: you know this was never gonna be a single, and
Speaker 1: I was like, really, goes yeah, he goes, Pink got
Speaker 1: pregnant so she had to come off the road. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've never heard that story. Oh you don't know. This
Speaker 1: story is crazy. You wrote this song. You don't know that. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I want to tell you this story, and you
Speaker 1: tell me about how the song came together. Okay, okay.
Speaker 1: So Kenny and I are sitting here and he goes,
Speaker 1: we're playing about to play the song overhead, and he said, hey,
Speaker 1: you're never gonna believe this, and Kenny curses a lot.
Speaker 1: You know, I believe this, baby, you know, like, what
Speaker 1: is it? And he goes, this was never going to
Speaker 1: be a single. But not because I didn't love the song,
Speaker 1: he said, but because Pink was about to go on
Speaker 1: tour and she wanted to put her own music out
Speaker 1: and she didn't want to have two things at once
Speaker 1: hitting each other. And so because she got pregnant, she
Speaker 1: pulled back, She pulled everything off the radio, and they
Speaker 1: were like, hey, go ahead, and if you want to
Speaker 1: make that a single, make that a single. And had
Speaker 1: she not become a single at least not then yeah,
Speaker 1: And so I was like, wow, he never said that
Speaker 1: a secret, right did He realized she got pregnant and
Speaker 1: that's why. And so I'm thinking, wow, I know this
Speaker 1: great story, but I keep secret. You know, when you
Speaker 1: have friends at working in business, you either are really
Speaker 1: good to keep it secrets or you're allowed mouth. And
Speaker 1: so I just don't say anything because it's not my
Speaker 1: place to say. But it's a good story. But like
Speaker 1: three months later, it was like breaking news, Kenny admits,
Speaker 1: and I was like, what do you mean? So what
Speaker 1: did you know about this? That's amazing? You know, it
Speaker 1: kind of came back to me now. I remember Pink
Speaker 1: was on the song, and I knew she was putting
Speaker 1: out a new record, so I remember hearing you know
Speaker 1: it won't be a single because she's gonna make it
Speaker 1: the record. And then so you did hear that. I
Speaker 1: do now that you say that it's kind of coming back,
Speaker 1: but I never heard then. I just heard, oh, it's
Speaker 1: the next single. I never because you know, we had
Speaker 1: Noise first and Nois was kind of quick to come
Speaker 1: and go, and then this one happened really fast, so
Speaker 1: I never heard. The reason I never heard that it
Speaker 1: was because she got pregnant so her music was on hold. Crazy,
Speaker 1: that's crazy. I never knew that. I never I can't belave.
Speaker 1: I never thought. I'm glad I could bring up out
Speaker 1: of your podcast Ross, I'm sharing stories. So that song there,
Speaker 1: when you wrote it, did you write it as a duet?
Speaker 1: We didn't at all. And you know what, you write
Speaker 1: it with Josh Osborne and Matt Jenkins, and we didn't
Speaker 1: think of this song. It's not like this is one
Speaker 1: of those ones. We got home that night and we
Speaker 1: were like, oh my gosh, I'm gonna this is the
Speaker 1: one man, this this is one of those ones. It
Speaker 1: was like it was like me and Josh's favorite song.
Speaker 1: And Josh was playing it out in rounds and playing
Speaker 1: it before anyone, playing it before anybody. He just started
Speaker 1: playing rounds and he'd be like, man, Ross, that that's
Speaker 1: set in the world. Fire song goes over really well
Speaker 1: in rounds. I was like, Oh cool, Josh, that's that's
Speaker 1: good man. And so then Kenny cut it and somehow
Speaker 1: decided to put Pink on it. Kenny has a great
Speaker 1: like intuition to know. He just has this. I always
Speaker 1: say he's the best A and R guy in Nashville.
Speaker 1: I always feel like he picks about songs, are about
Speaker 1: songs and just and just do it A and or
Speaker 1: he's record knowing to put Pink on that song. I
Speaker 1: never would have thought to put her on that song,
Speaker 1: and I feel like her being on that song the
Speaker 1: first time I heard I literally cried when I heard
Speaker 1: it in the studio with him, just because I grew
Speaker 1: up with Pink on the radio, and like just hearing
Speaker 1: her voice on a song that I was a part
Speaker 1: of writing was just mind numbing to me, you know.
Speaker 1: He I was talking to Kenny. It was the same
Speaker 1: night and Pink had come through with the top on us.
Speaker 1: We were doing this interview whole thing, and Pain came
Speaker 1: over and they didn't. I don't think they'd spent a
Speaker 1: lot of time together, you know, And that's how it works.
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't realize that now because back
Speaker 1: in the old days. But when because I assumed I
Speaker 1: was born in the eighties. You born in the eighties, okay,
Speaker 1: early year, you earlier? Okay, like not like I'm not
Speaker 1: like Taylor Swift. That's where most people nowaday eight seven,
Speaker 1: like come on, man, count that. But people don't even
Speaker 1: record it in the studio together anymore. Just generally they
Speaker 1: don't look together, and it's it's almost to listeners like,
Speaker 1: oh man, we I just want to imagine carrying boys,
Speaker 1: two men doing one Sweet Day, remember the video, and
Speaker 1: they're all in the studio together and it's like sorry,
Speaker 1: and they're back and forth. That's how I imagine every duet.
Speaker 1: And he was like, no, we really didn't. I will
Speaker 1: say when we did Different for Girls with Dirks. Dirks
Speaker 1: flew us on his little plane to Texas to l King.
Speaker 1: There's no gonna and not that I want to let
Speaker 1: me tell you what hap a Ross, because Ross and
Speaker 1: I were both the darks after party at the A
Speaker 1: C M S. And so we go and we're there
Speaker 1: and I think the last time I was on all right,
Speaker 1: even on the air, because there are certain stories you
Speaker 1: come out of there with their stafe to tell and
Speaker 1: I told about Luke, and Luke goes up into the
Speaker 1: DJ boots and he's like, where's the microphone And he's like,
Speaker 1: there's no microphones, Like what was talking to the headphone?
Speaker 1: So look, plugs in a pair of headphones into the
Speaker 1: microphone jacks, yelling through the headphones and think that works?
Speaker 1: Does that actually work? It does? All I know is
Speaker 1: that here looks screaming over the top of the speakers
Speaker 1: with distortion. And he's like, all right, people were gonna dance,
Speaker 1: and so everybody talks dancing. And I'm talking to Dirks
Speaker 1: and Dark is like, hey, I'm flying home tomorrow at
Speaker 1: three pm, and my flight was at like seven in
Speaker 1: the morning, right, And he's like, you can fly back
Speaker 1: with me if you want. And I'm like, cool, Dirk's
Speaker 1: has got a jet and I'm gonna hop on Dark's
Speaker 1: jet and He's like, no, no, I flew my plane.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna go and go fly south west.
Speaker 1: There's no way. I'm Dirk is one of my favorite
Speaker 1: people in the whole world. Yeah, me too, But I'm
Speaker 1: not getting in a small plane. Where's the drunk on
Speaker 1: a plane hat? And the glasses too. When he's in
Speaker 1: the cockpit that small plane. Is that weird? It's weird, bro,
Speaker 1: because you feel at all. And Dirk's at one point
Speaker 1: got off the plane and was like, that was one
Speaker 1: of the roughest rides I've ever had in my life.
Speaker 1: And he's got the drunk in a plane glasses and
Speaker 1: he's like over the loudspeaker, like, yeah, welcome to dude there.
Speaker 1: I don't need my pilot making chucks. I don't even
Speaker 1: like on Southwest. We were flying into Kansas once and
Speaker 1: the pilot's storming, right, and the pilot comes on and
Speaker 1: he goes it wasnnder a little trivia here as we
Speaker 1: go through that, and I'm like, dude, just focus on
Speaker 1: the freak. I don't need Dirk's drunk on a planet. No,
Speaker 1: But he's actually a great pilot. I'm sure he is.
Speaker 1: I like pilots whose main job is to be a pilot.
Speaker 1: It's not to be a superstars is like drinks on
Speaker 1: stage too, right, He's got to have a few drinks
Speaker 1: on stage and then he flies home. I don't listen.
Speaker 1: I doubt regardless, Darks as an artist and a dad,
Speaker 1: and then he's a pilot in order I need my
Speaker 1: pilots to be up ranked around one first. Maybe too hilarious.
Speaker 1: So speaking of Dirk's let's see for Dirk's man. You
Speaker 1: have so many songs here. Um, you wrote tip it
Speaker 1: on back? Was this the first dark song you wrote?
Speaker 1: That was the That song started everything for me? Everything,
Speaker 1: I really think it is. That's just Oh, I really
Speaker 1: do owe my career to Dirk's And I always tell
Speaker 1: him that because he took a chance on that song
Speaker 1: and it was my first big single I've ever had.
Speaker 1: It got to five and then uh, he liked the demos,
Speaker 1: so then we're starting to hang out any and that's
Speaker 1: when he asked me to produce his record Riser, and
Speaker 1: that really did. That really did started off for me.
Speaker 1: So you credit Dirk says, I really do, and I
Speaker 1: always tell him, really, I really do. And the is
Speaker 1: your first single. I think Thompson Glass before that, but
Speaker 1: this is your first top ten. This is my first
Speaker 1: top ten. Yeah, it's all Night, I have Glass, I
Speaker 1: have it all ros. I know that I'm like Wikipedia,
Speaker 1: Ross Comproman, Gosh, I'm scared, scared. So Thompson Spurred has
Speaker 1: a song. Okay, let's just why far back. I have
Speaker 1: a lot of you as the UK pop You don't,
Speaker 1: I do. I don't look at my screen. I have
Speaker 1: all of it and we'll get there. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: So you moved to town. Let's just talk about Nashville first.
Speaker 1: You moved to Nashville to be a songwriter? What year?
Speaker 1: Oh man? I always say, it's about ten years ago?
Speaker 1: What would that be? Six seven is ship? Yeah? And
Speaker 1: you move here, and I mean, are you stable when
Speaker 1: you move here? Financially? Do you have friends? Like so
Speaker 1: I had. I had a record deal in the UK,
Speaker 1: and so I had a publishing deal with E M
Speaker 1: I there and I was locked into this E M
Speaker 1: I UK publishing deal that never ended and I was
Speaker 1: done with being an artist, and so I was stuck
Speaker 1: in this deal. And I met I got named Josh
Speaker 1: me and Walkenberg in at the big Loud Shirt parking
Speaker 1: lot party and I was like, Hey, I write for you,
Speaker 1: my Do you think you could listen to some of
Speaker 1: my songs? And he was like sure, dude, whatever, And
Speaker 1: so I played him some songs and he kind of
Speaker 1: took Mender's wing and like he played songs with your
Speaker 1: instrument and voice? So you played yeah, my guitar and
Speaker 1: then he started he really he really developed me. He
Speaker 1: is the reason. Also, there's so many people this town. Man,
Speaker 1: it doesn't just happen, you know fast. It was definitely
Speaker 1: ten years for me. Um, and you had Josh took
Speaker 1: me in his wing. And then Bradley Collins from bm
Speaker 1: I sent me to the Key West Songwriters Festival and
Speaker 1: I came back with so many new friends. I went
Speaker 1: down there not knowing anyone. Kit More was one of
Speaker 1: my first friends. Be and him were goofing around down there,
Speaker 1: Ryan Scooters Ackwards and being crazy and um, yeah, I
Speaker 1: made some of my best friends down there. So you
Speaker 1: start riding in town with a lot of people, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure you're a hundred songs or so before Glass,
Speaker 1: it's it's oh yeah. So whenever you first get that, hey,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be the single for an artist. It's
Speaker 1: on the radio. That's a big deal, right. Me and
Speaker 1: John Knight first time we met, we wrote Glass together,
Speaker 1: just us in a room with guitar, green carpet floor,
Speaker 1: the old m I building. Um, we just stared into
Speaker 1: each other's eyes longingly and like we really did. And
Speaker 1: we've literally have been best friends since that day and
Speaker 1: and this song top fifteen, Yeah, top fifteen. I love
Speaker 1: those guys, tough to Square. Yeah, some of my favorite
Speaker 1: people keep us funny, so oddly funny, oddly funny, like
Speaker 1: you don't expect different, it's oddly funny. This is oddly funny.
Speaker 1: We think you're just messing a TV show together. It
Speaker 1: ended up not getting picked up with the whole process
Speaker 1: of yeah, a TV production company, so we wish. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but don't you have many I try everything, nothing really works.
Speaker 1: That's the thing. I try a little bit. I didn't
Speaker 1: try to get in everything. My dad's pretty geeked out
Speaker 1: that I'm doing this interview with you today. He's a
Speaker 1: huge fan of he is he Yeah, he's in Ronan, Virginia,
Speaker 1: so he listens to all this stuff. Oh yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 1: And you're from you grew up Virginia, Virginia. So Tom
Speaker 1: Square cuts glass. They call you and say hey, and
Speaker 1: then it goes about where to go twelve twelve? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so at twelve, that was a huge deal with that.
Speaker 1: But do you like, do you make good money at
Speaker 1: twelve or thirteen? Back then? Back? Yeah? I feel like
Speaker 1: back then you actually made more. Yeah, because songs don't
Speaker 1: just go to this is my theory. Now it's just
Speaker 1: flash it flies, and I know you're you have a
Speaker 1: million number ones, so don't take offense to this in anyway.
Speaker 1: Here's my problem with the format right now is that
Speaker 1: there are so many number ones that the music is
Speaker 1: not going to last because we don't get to sit
Speaker 1: with it. I agree number ones are forgotten. That that's
Speaker 1: why these people that buy song catalogs, I'm I was like,
Speaker 1: why are you doing it? Because you know there's like
Speaker 1: four quarters of a song paying money and then it
Speaker 1: really the drop off is like Matt Everest, we don't
Speaker 1: give these songs enough time to breathe, and especially with
Speaker 1: the superstars, and it's not the SuperStar's fault they're a superstar.
Speaker 1: It is the superstars who go the fastest. Like if
Speaker 1: if even now Dirk's is up on that a list,
Speaker 1: but if it's Dirk or Blake or Luke or any
Speaker 1: of these guys, and it's the record label's fault, it's
Speaker 1: radio's fault. It's everyone's sing about it because it's just
Speaker 1: like to get it, shoot, shoot up gone. But then
Speaker 1: they can't even play all their number ones at a concert.
Speaker 1: Luke especially because they go by so and and Luke's
Speaker 1: forties not like sixty five. And we and you forget
Speaker 1: sometimes with these songs because we were talking about strip
Speaker 1: it Down, which you strip it Down was on this
Speaker 1: last album. It's six number ones Luke's last album. And
Speaker 1: it's crazy. But you know why I have do the though,
Speaker 1: because you can song shoot up so fast. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: and then albums suffer because everyone's just writing the singles.
Speaker 1: You want to get six singles on a record, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: So okay, talk about this one. Yeah. We we went
Speaker 1: out to Luke's farm, the first time we've ever been
Speaker 1: out there. His place blew our mind. We were we
Speaker 1: thought we were on another planet. He's got his like
Speaker 1: the river stocked with trout. Somehow, I don't even understand
Speaker 1: how that works. How the trouter in one place, like
Speaker 1: he says, you know, he goes and he he stocks
Speaker 1: it hard with tiny ones and he grows them big.
Speaker 1: But I don't have a stay on his property. Why
Speaker 1: don't they end up down somewhere? I think? But my
Speaker 1: theory is he has someone that comes right before you
Speaker 1: come and they throw them right into the area where
Speaker 1: you're going to be in a whole lot of so
Speaker 1: you can show up. Because he has money, he can
Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, he did have a field with deer.
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, the deer bend down over there. You
Speaker 1: just it felt like in a tree stand right there
Speaker 1: is like it was like Disney. It's like Dilukeworld. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're thinking the right place at the right time. It's
Speaker 1: like a safari where you know where the outfits are
Speaker 1: going to be up. So we rode around his farm,
Speaker 1: we rode around through the river. He's shown us everything.
Speaker 1: It's the most amazing I ever seen. We came back
Speaker 1: ate some some dear jerky. He grabbed at an acoustic
Speaker 1: and he's like he started he started playing these chords
Speaker 1: and he started he literally started singing in the chorus
Speaker 1: um and me and John were like, whoa, what is
Speaker 1: what is that? I got opened my laptop started recording him.
Speaker 1: It's like writing down as fast as I could twenty minutes.
Speaker 1: He kind of just he just kind of spouted out lines.
Speaker 1: Me and John were just catching it, and he's like,
Speaker 1: all right, boy, you wanna want to wrap it up?
Speaker 1: Finished his another time or something. So we're like, no,
Speaker 1: let's just keep fighting. And so and then so we
Speaker 1: went home and basically the whole song was like in
Speaker 1: the scattered of three pages of just notes and we
Speaker 1: kind just piece it together and with Luke's help and
Speaker 1: then he cut it. And crazy at this level where
Speaker 1: you are now with because as we'll see, it wasn't
Speaker 1: always easy and it wasn't always awesome. Um, but now
Speaker 1: you have success, and you have money, and you have
Speaker 1: people they're dying to write with you and work with
Speaker 1: you as you produce, and like you're you know, you're
Speaker 1: growing just as an entity, like you're doing all these things.
Speaker 1: But uh, for you, Like how hard is it for you?
Speaker 1: Like for someone let's say writer comes to town right
Speaker 1: and at first like probably get right with you pretty easy,
Speaker 1: like whenever you're not making any money. But now do
Speaker 1: you just go sit and write for artists specifically or
Speaker 1: do you just still write songs and see where they land? Mostly? Man,
Speaker 1: you know we do, And I feel like the best
Speaker 1: songs getting ritten like that when it's me and John
Speaker 1: and Shane or me and Josh Osborne and Ranny Clausen
Speaker 1: are Like I feel like that's how you write the
Speaker 1: best songs when you're not thinking about anything and you're
Speaker 1: just trying to write the best song in the room
Speaker 1: that day. But are artists they're calling you, They're and going, hey, Ross,
Speaker 1: comes sit with me because you're writing all these hits. Well,
Speaker 1: a lot of artists are such good writers. Luke is
Speaker 1: Luke would be one of the he'd be being my
Speaker 1: song on the year every year, Luke, Brian Wood Dirk's
Speaker 1: is a great songwriter, Keith Grett. They're all so good, um,
Speaker 1: and so yeah, when we go right with them, they
Speaker 1: always have like a year of ideas stocked up because
Speaker 1: they've been on the road tour and so and they're
Speaker 1: not writing every day, so we're like flexing the muscle
Speaker 1: every day so we can help to shape them. But
Speaker 1: how hard is it to think of different stuff every day? Though?
Speaker 1: Like what have you what have you done today to
Speaker 1: right today? Yeah, Craig Wiseman, Okay, so you're going ro
Speaker 1: with Craig Wiseman. Who who know, I'll tell you today.
Speaker 1: That's a great Yeah, go ahead, No, No, Craig Wiseman
Speaker 1: has been around and written so many and probably a
Speaker 1: million stories. Like it's probably awesome to go sit with
Speaker 1: someone like that because they have so much that you
Speaker 1: can hear and be inspired by. And you know, we
Speaker 1: didn't have a title today and we're kind of just
Speaker 1: we're grinding. He was telling stories. I was just learning
Speaker 1: from him. And I saw like he had a key
Speaker 1: chain on the on the table big loud shirt. You
Speaker 1: know what his name is, Publishing. I was like, Craig,
Speaker 1: have you ever written big loud shirt? He's like, wow, no,
Speaker 1: I've never written that, And so we we we're gonna
Speaker 1: write we started it big glove shirt. But that's how
Speaker 1: things happened, like you just see something or like like
Speaker 1: when we wrote um for Thousand Horses Smoke, he had
Speaker 1: a black BlackBerry smoke hat on Michael Hobby did so
Speaker 1: had he had the bands. I was just staring. We
Speaker 1: didn't have an idea. I was just staring at his
Speaker 1: hat smoke. I was like, smoke, it's not smoke, Not
Speaker 1: that it's most I really feel like nowadays, simpler the better,
Speaker 1: Like simple title that you can tell in a different way.
Speaker 1: That's that's just what I'm into right now. So you
Speaker 1: wrote this song on Michael who else? And John Knight?
Speaker 1: You know it's weird. It makes sense because I do
Speaker 1: the same thing. We get into our little front path
Speaker 1: the people we trust, and we like to work with
Speaker 1: people we trust and like, who are who are your people?
Speaker 1: John will be first, Um, Josh Osborne and Shane McNally,
Speaker 1: Ronnie Class and Nicole and do you call Cole Nicole
Speaker 1: Class called them? How far in advanced do you guys
Speaker 1: set up these rights? You know, we book our years
Speaker 1: out all the way to December. You book, you book
Speaker 1: a year out. We do, and then but we leave
Speaker 1: it kind of loose so that we can fill in,
Speaker 1: like like me and Ashley Goalley. He'll be one of
Speaker 1: those that I trust. I mean, he's probably got to
Speaker 1: be one of the best ever to exist songwriter wise.
Speaker 1: He's like rain Man. I've never seen anyone right like him.
Speaker 1: But we'll we'll do like two days with Ashley every
Speaker 1: month through December, and then we'll fill it in as
Speaker 1: we go. So Bill, like Billy Kurtnan is coming to town. Hey,
Speaker 1: you know I think I'm like, oh, jump in with
Speaker 1: me Ashley this day or something. So you guys will
Speaker 1: have a right set and then you'll leave a spot
Speaker 1: and someone will hop in. It's constantly juggle. It's we're
Speaker 1: up at night at eleven o'clock and night every night texting,
Speaker 1: oh what if we do this here? Throw this person here,
Speaker 1: like constant juggle to try and maximize every right you
Speaker 1: have to nowadays because it's so hard to get outside cuts.
Speaker 1: Like you said, like when just three writers get in
Speaker 1: the room to try to write the best song, even
Speaker 1: the best song these days is the best songs are
Speaker 1: not always winning. Now what wins artists who write there
Speaker 1: on songs they can also get paid for it. I
Speaker 1: do think those songs win now man. Unfortunately it makes
Speaker 1: sense that they do, and and not saying that it's wrong,
Speaker 1: it does. We just put the shoe on my foot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's say I write a song and it's almost as
Speaker 1: good as as a as a song that's announced. It's
Speaker 1: it didn't had to be as good, but it's so
Speaker 1: close and I'm a superstar, and I know my superstar
Speaker 1: is will push that over the limit. I'm cutting my
Speaker 1: song because I need to get paid. So the question
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. There's the big question. That's a big question, dude,
Speaker 1: is that is that Okay? Does that affect music as
Speaker 1: a whole? Does that does that matter? The answer is yes,
Speaker 1: But the superstar culture the same way the song number one.
Speaker 1: It's like you said, somebody's gonna remember it. Anyways, these
Speaker 1: songs and in these all these songs that are you know,
Speaker 1: because McNally came in, we're talking about the same thing.
Speaker 1: And it's like back when we were kids and the nineties,
Speaker 1: like boot Scooting Bookie was number one for a while
Speaker 1: and it had a room to breathe. It took a
Speaker 1: long time to get there, and it just became like
Speaker 1: anthems of entire yeah eras like summers or winters or
Speaker 1: we just remember you know, the dance as being you know,
Speaker 1: junior high. It was like six week number. That would
Speaker 1: never have that. Now is there a song that you
Speaker 1: could off the top of your head right now that
Speaker 1: would be like, oh, that was last summer, that was
Speaker 1: last summer. Let's know, you always say this is the
Speaker 1: song of the summer because I know I picked you know,
Speaker 1: I just talked about myself to talk sometimes. But let
Speaker 1: me think about that was the song, like, let's just
Speaker 1: pick in the last few years, is the first one
Speaker 1: that comes to me? Okay, for you, that would be
Speaker 1: a song that you're like, boom that and that's gonna
Speaker 1: be one the last Okay, let me think, no one,
Speaker 1: no one's ever asked me. This is a really great question.
Speaker 1: Songs are out and in the past, let's say three
Speaker 1: four years that I think are going to last. It's
Speaker 1: a great question. I think, um, oh, man, yeah, because
Speaker 1: it's tricky, like I think something like, okay, I know,
Speaker 1: I just came to me too. I want to what
Speaker 1: what were you gonna say, girl crush? Girl crush? Is
Speaker 1: it is? It might be? Maybe? Yeah, tell me well.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say something like, because it's gonna take
Speaker 1: something meaningful. Now I would say, like drink a beer
Speaker 1: for Luke. Oh wow, interesting, because I think that's one
Speaker 1: that will last with people because of the message. And
Speaker 1: then occasionally you will get an artist that will just
Speaker 1: create something that, like the Stapleton that entire Traveler record
Speaker 1: will last, will last. His new record sounds even better.
Speaker 1: You know what's funny? Clips and I won't I have
Speaker 1: the whole record right, and I won't listen to it
Speaker 1: because I don't listen to music early and I love Chris,
Speaker 1: And Chris was like, I want you to have this record.
Speaker 1: I can't. It's like my favorite record, man, and you
Speaker 1: can have all the clips on iTunes. I'm listening like
Speaker 1: a minute twenty of each song or whatever you get,
Speaker 1: even the guy would I need to go to get it?
Speaker 1: I needed. I haven't asked anybody, but and I didn't.
Speaker 1: I just because I'm gonna buy it. I don't want
Speaker 1: I want to buy that record. It's like that's the
Speaker 1: one that might be like one of the few records
Speaker 1: I buy it this year. I want to experience it
Speaker 1: like my people experience it because I need to be.
Speaker 1: I can't not be the people that listen to me,
Speaker 1: and so I want to get it the day up
Speaker 1: and be excited about it too. And so that's why
Speaker 1: I won't listen to it. And Chris was so nice
Speaker 1: to say, I would love you to have this record,
Speaker 1: and I said back, I appreciate it, but I can't listen.
Speaker 1: The one album that I did listen to early because
Speaker 1: I'm just because I'm I had to was the new
Speaker 1: John Mayor record and it's not out yet and I
Speaker 1: have it you and I I don't have it. I'm
Speaker 1: holding on. I mean, beyond everything I'm going to this weekend.
Speaker 1: I'm a huge John Maravan. I think I've seen him
Speaker 1: thirteen times and I have the whole record yet, but
Speaker 1: there's just four more songs. It's so good the most
Speaker 1: just four more and then that completes all three waves,
Speaker 1: and that completes the record. I'll tell you this too.
Speaker 1: It's amazing music. Is that. I think the culture of
Speaker 1: putting out a record at twelve songs, I was gonna die.
Speaker 1: So I wish you had died three years ago because
Speaker 1: I tell every artist, like, what's it's too much? People
Speaker 1: can't process the whole album. It's like, except the Stapleton
Speaker 1: record for some reason, it's nine songs. It's nine songs.
Speaker 1: There's a huge cover on it. Yeah, you know, because
Speaker 1: Tennessee Whiskey is a cover um which, by the way,
Speaker 1: you know David Awnleeycote wrote it and George Jones covered
Speaker 1: it and people don't know this. But it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: is a thing. It doesn't matter. But yeah, it's also
Speaker 1: so I thought it was a new song though. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's also like bring in on it. You're like, oh,
Speaker 1: Scotty new. Yeah. I think though that it's almost like
Speaker 1: having a Thanksgiving meal, Thanksgiving dinner. Every meal when you
Speaker 1: get a new record of twelve songs, it's like, what
Speaker 1: do I eat? I'm gonna get full. I don't have
Speaker 1: enough time to listen to hour and minutes you anymore,
Speaker 1: And so I have to decide what songs I like
Speaker 1: the most really quickly, and we have our you know,
Speaker 1: our heart or Spotify whatever. We're racing songs if they
Speaker 1: don't fit. So we don't have time to enjoy it.
Speaker 1: You really don't because we can't spend time with it.
Speaker 1: When John Mayra put him out four at a time,
Speaker 1: I got to spend time with me those songs, and
Speaker 1: I fell in love with all four time. And I
Speaker 1: don't think I would have you to put out twelve
Speaker 1: at a time. That's such a good. So I think
Speaker 1: the culture of the album is going to change because
Speaker 1: we're a d D like as a society. We didn't
Speaker 1: used to be. No, we don't have the option though
Speaker 1: the digital option was how to fix it? Because I
Speaker 1: literally we're so d D now. I'm so what's gonna
Speaker 1: happen is though in ten years we're gonna go remember
Speaker 1: back in the good old days we were deleting. It's
Speaker 1: just everything progresses, just like music, Just like complaining about music.
Speaker 1: You know, we live now where everyone's like, well that's
Speaker 1: not country, that's not country. What happened? You know what
Speaker 1: happened ten years ago, every I was saying, that's not country,
Speaker 1: that's not country. You know what happened thirty years ago?
Speaker 1: Everyone was saying that's not country. That it's just never
Speaker 1: going to end. And that's okay. How far does it go,
Speaker 1: that's a great question. Though it goes as far as
Speaker 1: it would just keep going. It will never stop. Mike,
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Speaker 1: I want to play some more of these songs here.
Speaker 1: Let's see. How about I'm gonna tell you so this
Speaker 1: man when I go to Keith Urban Songs because because
Speaker 1: I have a wall, and I mentioned the wall to
Speaker 1: people like these are like artists that i'd have direct
Speaker 1: like friendships and and I have a wall of house
Speaker 1: and there's six things on it and it's Keith and
Speaker 1: pass Lay and Jansen and Marin and Kelsey and a
Speaker 1: little big town girl crush because I've either had something
Speaker 1: to do with them or they've had something to do
Speaker 1: with me, and I loved and Keith as a friend. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's awesome. Break on Me is one of my favorite
Speaker 1: Keats songs. Ever, this song is so good. Come about
Speaker 1: writing this one, man. I think me and John we're
Speaker 1: supposed to write with Dirk's that day, I think Dirk's
Speaker 1: and he had to go somewhere. He bailed and John,
Speaker 1: you know when you get bailed on these days, it's
Speaker 1: kind of like, oh yeah, let's just take your day
Speaker 1: in hand with our kids and stuff. And so I
Speaker 1: begged John to come over. I was like, John, just
Speaker 1: come over and let's rite. Come on, that's right. So
Speaker 1: he's like, all right, all right. He came over. I
Speaker 1: handed him this like nineteen sixty five stella guitar. I
Speaker 1: got on the pawn shop and he started playing those chords. Man,
Speaker 1: and I threw a little beat down and we just
Speaker 1: started just staring lovingly into each other's eyes like we
Speaker 1: did on Glass and Um. We wrote it like an hour. Um.
Speaker 1: It's such a vulnerable song. It's so and we you know,
Speaker 1: I don't hear it. We kind of wrote it for
Speaker 1: our wives and our our little girls sets. This is
Speaker 1: probably my favorite song man, really, yeah, break when you
Speaker 1: hear when it comes back to you and I don't.
Speaker 1: And it's been different with everyone we talked to from
Speaker 1: when like Natalie Himy's in, or when Shane's in. When
Speaker 1: a song comes back to you from the artist and
Speaker 1: they've cut it first of all, when do you get
Speaker 1: it With Keith Hell, he likes, I think he like.
Speaker 1: I think he snuck this one to me early. And
Speaker 1: I always know when Keith does a song, your mind
Speaker 1: is going to be blown because he's one of the
Speaker 1: best producers I've ever met. Literally, he's one of the
Speaker 1: best producers. And so he just knows how to take
Speaker 1: these tracks to like other worldly places. And I should
Speaker 1: play the demo that this sometime this, and John Cougar,
Speaker 1: I should play the demos of so vastly different from
Speaker 1: how he interpreted the songs. That's what makes a great
Speaker 1: artist is taking a song that I think it's It's
Speaker 1: more impressive to me when an artist can take a
Speaker 1: song that they did not write and make it a
Speaker 1: Keith Urban masterpiece. That to me is the most impressive thing.
Speaker 1: You say that about John Cougar. And so when I
Speaker 1: think of the song, I think of the baseline that
Speaker 1: and I know Keith just ripping the base out I know,
Speaker 1: and even plays it, but he does not even know
Speaker 1: he played bass. I think he could probably play the
Speaker 1: flute as a guitar if he wanted. He's not a
Speaker 1: different so yeah, yeah, obviously what's the deal? So talk
Speaker 1: about the song, like, what's the what's the difference in
Speaker 1: this song? This was just a really straightforward. It was
Speaker 1: not the bass riff, It was not as bouncy. It
Speaker 1: was more just like guitar with a little beat under
Speaker 1: kind of walking down. Um, the song is the same,
Speaker 1: but but him doing that but no, no, no, non't
Speaker 1: and then modulating up and then back down because he
Speaker 1: heard on a Kendrick Lamar record. Did you know did
Speaker 1: you tell you that he heard Kendrick go up, modulate
Speaker 1: up and then come back down, which doesn't sound like
Speaker 1: you should work at all, because once you raise the energy,
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be able to work to come back down.
Speaker 1: And he did it somehow, and it blows my mind still.
Speaker 1: That was I can say this. There are a few
Speaker 1: artists where I'll listen to a song or that was
Speaker 1: one of the few. That he texted me earlier was
Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, like three weeks before it's like you
Speaker 1: gotta hear this song. And I was like, dang, dude,
Speaker 1: because it was just but the boom boom. I was like, dude,
Speaker 1: that's that's I mean? Rememberpplied back like, Wow, that's funky,
Speaker 1: it's funky. Your first listen You're right, My first listen
Speaker 1: to that one was in the studio with him and
Speaker 1: Dan and the mix was all kind of different. It
Speaker 1: was like it was a lot to take in. I
Speaker 1: was like, whoa, what has happened? I don't even know
Speaker 1: what happened to me? How did you? Keith get to
Speaker 1: be a thing man? When I first came to Nashville
Speaker 1: within the first year two, Keith and Joe Fisher had
Speaker 1: a publishing company and they offered me my first publishing
Speaker 1: deal to get me out of my UK deal. Um,
Speaker 1: and I think he just started hearing my songs early
Speaker 1: and started kind of he'd put them on hold, and
Speaker 1: then then he wanted to write, because Keith's always trying
Speaker 1: to write with the new the new guys, what's happening
Speaker 1: and so um he came over and we wrote with
Speaker 1: Davidlye Murphy. We wrote even the Stars Fall for You,
Speaker 1: which was on Fuse, and then we produced a song
Speaker 1: or two together for that record, and then we just
Speaker 1: became good friends and now we have this publishing company
Speaker 1: together called boom Um. I'm just I love being in
Speaker 1: business with him. He's one of my favorite humans. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my favorite show. And I only watch one episode, only
Speaker 1: see one episode. I started last night and I watched it.
Speaker 1: It's so good. The weird thing and this is the
Speaker 1: weird thing about Keith, and I say it a lot,
Speaker 1: is I just didn't think that was that he was real.
Speaker 1: Oh he's I know. I mean, I just I was
Speaker 1: just like, Okay, you're such a big star. Why that
Speaker 1: this kind? Why I still don't understand. And in the
Speaker 1: land of make believe, where we live and everyone's only
Speaker 1: kind so they can live another day and make another dollar, Like,
Speaker 1: why are you this kind when you don't have to be?
Speaker 1: That's what I always thought about him, I know, and
Speaker 1: every you know, and I've been here four or five
Speaker 1: years now and it's it's only gotten better. I agree.
Speaker 1: He doesn't need anything for me, He doesn't anybody zero
Speaker 1: from me. He drives a Bugatti. Yeah, yeah, yes, he's
Speaker 1: he does. It's like a batmobile. And he doesn't anything
Speaker 1: for me. And he's always the case. He's one of
Speaker 1: the best humans man. And then I'll see him going
Speaker 1: fallon or go do something at the International what means.
Speaker 1: Then he'll text me and be like, hey, dude, you
Speaker 1: good And I'm like, wait, what aren't you in the audience?
Speaker 1: Shouldn't you be doing? And Nicole is so nice. Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, she's the best. I haven't seen all big
Speaker 1: little lies yet, but I hear she's pretty nuhing that
Speaker 1: don't run it don't run, But I hear it's a
Speaker 1: fantast actually does a fantastic our favorite show we've ever seen. Man,
Speaker 1: I've heard that from so many days. The acting is
Speaker 1: just beyond this. Because these things live a long time,
Speaker 1: this podcasts, someone's gonna hear this in like six months
Speaker 1: from now, and or I'll hear it back and be like,
Speaker 1: man if I only knew then, because that's only one season, right,
Speaker 1: and that's it. Because it was a book. It's a book,
Speaker 1: so I think it might be tied somehow. I don't
Speaker 1: want you to run anything wrong. I don't want you
Speaker 1: to I want to roll down a couple of a
Speaker 1: couple of songs because I got so much to talk about.
Speaker 1: How about we don't Billy Carrington, there is another one
Speaker 1: of my favorite people in the world, Billy. I do
Speaker 1: it a little bit now you need to spend some
Speaker 1: time with him. He is he That's the thing. Billy
Speaker 1: intrigues me too, And I don't feel like we would
Speaker 1: because I'm such an introvert who doesn't do things like
Speaker 1: rock climb or get on the ocean or go to
Speaker 1: a whole lot. That's just not me and my personality.
Speaker 1: So I don't think that Billy and I would hang
Speaker 1: out as humans. But he comes in and we enjoy
Speaker 1: each other because we're so different. Last time he was
Speaker 1: in like show ended or whatever, and we were talking
Speaker 1: and he was like, hey, listen, I'm going for like
Speaker 1: this is him. I'm going to my place in his
Speaker 1: wife like a month and he was like this, this
Speaker 1: is where I live, here's the address, here's my number.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be there for a month. Called me come out.
Speaker 1: He's like, come out there for a few days. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, Billy, I'm not like, I appreciate it, but
Speaker 1: I would never do that ross that's just not I'm
Speaker 1: not cool. I'm I'm never going to be cool. I'm
Speaker 1: never gonna go rock climbate Billy and kids like Kevin
Speaker 1: and I went to like breakfast somewhere at one of
Speaker 1: these places one of these cool guy places, right and yeah,
Speaker 1: like in East Nahville right, not why I trust me,
Speaker 1: that's a restaurant. I want to know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: But Kemp was like, meet me here, and so I
Speaker 1: was like cool, and so Kevin I going, we're eating
Speaker 1: and Kevin and I had kind of got into a
Speaker 1: little fight because I was making fun of them for
Speaker 1: people youngly people using phones at a show and so
Speaker 1: and so we were just like, hey, let's just go
Speaker 1: talk it out and have and eat and figure it out.
Speaker 1: We're both humans, we're both we're both sensitive humans that
Speaker 1: we probably need to talk it out so we can
Speaker 1: just get back and be cool again. So it's like,
Speaker 1: meet me here, I met him. It's great now, we're
Speaker 1: great by the way now, and so if you as
Speaker 1: if it wasn't, I wouldn't have brought it up. But listen,
Speaker 1: I thought with some of my best friends now, like
Speaker 1: I could have a big mouth. I just tend to
Speaker 1: say whatever comes out of my head and you record
Speaker 1: it all the time, and it's it's just live and
Speaker 1: there's no difference. If you were just on the air, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're just every radio show. Not I would get out
Speaker 1: that's to make your show so great because you're just
Speaker 1: real So it's real life, but you're just on the Yeah,
Speaker 1: what kept like hey, but it kept like let's go
Speaker 1: rock climbing. I'm like, dude, I'm not going rock climbing,
Speaker 1: Like I'm not you guys like I'm not cool. And
Speaker 1: then as the pictures of him and Billy like ripped
Speaker 1: up climbing bandanas on, like so cool and like that'll
Speaker 1: never be me. But I do like Billy a lot
Speaker 1: from the limited time that I've spent with him. He
Speaker 1: seems like a pretty nice, sharp guy. Man. He's got
Speaker 1: his own coconut oil company, is own coconut water company.
Speaker 1: Do you know that? Like it's legit, Like we have
Speaker 1: his coconut oil in our house, So he's making money
Speaker 1: that we don't even know he is. He's a little
Speaker 1: bit of a mogul on the side, Like nobody really
Speaker 1: knows well as are you. Like people people may you
Speaker 1: know if you google Ross Copper or whatever and you
Speaker 1: net worth a hundred million dollars, you don't know that.
Speaker 1: You don't know that. You know you're also producing records, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, they don't know that you have a publishing company.
Speaker 1: You know, there are things that you're also doing, so
Speaker 1: don't play on this whole somebody else is a mogul.
Speaker 1: They're trying to get this Mike. They're trying to get
Speaker 1: to the Oh yeah, Billy's the mogul. One of those tips.
Speaker 1: He comes in before we even started. Ross like, man,
Speaker 1: you're doing comedy. You to music, and Ross got like
Speaker 1: nine projects over here at like act like you're just
Speaker 1: writing song. I just wrote a song today. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a good day. How about this one right here? It's
Speaker 1: the Jake song. This is the number one right away. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the same same team of writers that wrote Billy song
Speaker 1: little bet on the last it's don't daddy getting that
Speaker 1: because you came home. Whenever you write something the drab
Speaker 1: way light radio j let's say a number one here,
Speaker 1: Like we have all these that we've played. Is there
Speaker 1: a difference? They say, three people are I didn't ask
Speaker 1: such good questions, by the way, I mean, I'm just
Speaker 1: saying I love songs so good, You're so good at this.
Speaker 1: Stop Ross. Now, I'm just saying you are, You're really
Speaker 1: good at this? You keep Yeah. I want the people
Speaker 1: listen this text will learn and appreciate the art of
Speaker 1: songwriting and how it works. And now, but if three
Speaker 1: people write a song and let's say it's you and
Speaker 1: Jim and John just his names, and you write America
Speaker 1: coutry love song and it takes thirteen weeks to get
Speaker 1: number one, and you and Jim and John right smoke
Speaker 1: and it takes twenty weeks to get number one? Is
Speaker 1: there a difference in pay? Smoke makes way way more?
Speaker 1: So you want a song as a songwriter to go
Speaker 1: slow but still get number one? Yes, everybody, it's always
Speaker 1: it's a tricky balance because you because if they go
Speaker 1: too slow, they might die out in the teens or something.
Speaker 1: But so like this Darius record song right now if
Speaker 1: I told you which by the way forever and it's
Speaker 1: just now starting never. I know. I remember Darius and
Speaker 1: I were on a bus last summer in Indy and
Speaker 1: we're about the world premiere and were dres last summer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's crazy. Dress my first ever interview when I was
Speaker 1: seventeen years old as Hootie come on, and so there's
Speaker 1: like the guy who my whole career when you're seventeen, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I started in the radio and so it has been
Speaker 1: crazy because who he was so so big, and I
Speaker 1: was so nervous. I would have been Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: a huge Hooty back then. I mean we all were right.
Speaker 1: Everybody loved Yeah, all white people love tutt if you
Speaker 1: were I mean that was like the sub You're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I love Hootie. So we all listened to Hooty and
Speaker 1: I was a huge and I knew all the cracked
Speaker 1: review and like every word of every every track, and
Speaker 1: I was so nervous interview Darius. He grabbed the microphone
Speaker 1: and helped me, like interview him when I was seventeen
Speaker 1: years old, and so ever since then, like we've worked,
Speaker 1: We were popped together, we came across with Your Country together,
Speaker 1: we presented the A c M S together. I mean
Speaker 1: we're and so I remember being on a bus with
Speaker 1: him and Dan and Shay were his who friends with
Speaker 1: two They were his middle act, and so was Darrison.
Speaker 1: I was sitting on his bus, which is all South
Speaker 1: Carolina game cocked own. He's got like brick wall inside
Speaker 1: his bus and saying with money, he's got other projects
Speaker 1: and pizza huts going, and yeah there's this guy the problem. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So he's like, you know, I've got this if I
Speaker 1: told you, and I was like, your song is really good,
Speaker 1: and then I just don't hear about it for like
Speaker 1: two months, I know, and look now and here it
Speaker 1: comes just shooting up the chart. Isn't that crazy? So?
Speaker 1: Are you gonna make a ton of money off this song?
Speaker 1: So this probably will make a lot more than say
Speaker 1: like Drunk the Drunk of Your Love or something like that.
Speaker 1: Like it will, because it's just what are we talking?
Speaker 1: How many songs in there? Did you put those in there?
Speaker 1: I didn't add seagulls. I've never heard I produced that.
Speaker 1: I guess you didn't know I put seagulls. Do we
Speaker 1: have a read there? A hold on, I'm you're in
Speaker 1: the seagulls? Man? What's those are seagulls? What's what are seagulls?
Speaker 1: What's up? Mike? Is that from like they playing it
Speaker 1: at the beach? Or is that you didn't put seagulls
Speaker 1: in it? No? I don't think so. Those are definitely
Speaker 1: seagulls I didn't add or I didn't add the mongoose
Speaker 1: and strip it down? Okay? How many number ones does
Speaker 1: it take to make a million dollars? Oh my gosh, Bobby,
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, four, three, three number ones to make
Speaker 1: a million dollars as three right as a right? Don't
Speaker 1: say six, man, I might disagree with that. You do, yeah,
Speaker 1: because all my millions have been made, Like I would know.
Speaker 1: I want to disagree with that. I have no idea
Speaker 1: what I think it's and it just decreases. Man. But
Speaker 1: I do feel like ities because i'd say five or six.
Speaker 1: Because on Nashville, whenever Gunner gets his check, how many
Speaker 1: times people compelle like so much my man, my own parents.
Speaker 1: That's hilarious. Gone, but just first checking, it's like I
Speaker 1: gotta ride check in his four dollars. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: that's not really how it works. Did you know that?
Speaker 1: I was kind of in the beginning of the Nashville
Speaker 1: Show with Cali t Bone. The initial meetings that show
Speaker 1: where in my house and my house in Bellevue, is
Speaker 1: that we're like consulting on how to no mater, how
Speaker 1: we're gonna get these vocals. And I kind of showed
Speaker 1: Connie Britain how to single on headphones. She had never
Speaker 1: sung a microphone or headphones, so she like came over
Speaker 1: my house and I practiced. Yeah, I did the first few.
Speaker 1: I did the first season. Really a lot of the
Speaker 1: songs in the first season of that. Did you make
Speaker 1: money off of that? Or is that kind of yeah?
Speaker 1: That was that was good like production money. It seems
Speaker 1: that okay, production money, but not really like single like
Speaker 1: song money songs, because I would think there would be
Speaker 1: like too many, and you're not. They're not being featured
Speaker 1: really except on an episode they're not. There was no
Speaker 1: money for songwriters on that show, which which always bothered
Speaker 1: because there probably were a ton of good songs there were,
Speaker 1: or did they just go and pick a bunch of
Speaker 1: metal of the medio for songs. What happened is everyone
Speaker 1: in Nashville found out that there was no money in
Speaker 1: the songs, so nobody was giving them their A list songs.
Speaker 1: That is what happened, because it would have to be
Speaker 1: one of the two the show, doesn't it show either
Speaker 1: a bunch of the songs get wasted or you just
Speaker 1: don't give them good songs. Nobody gave them good songs.
Speaker 1: The worst. No one's sending him break on me. Nobody's
Speaker 1: sending them Merry go round, which and if they do
Speaker 1: go away and we'll never hear because there's three an
Speaker 1: episode and it's twenty seconds at a time. But I
Speaker 1: think they could have capitalized more on a great song
Speaker 1: being featured over and over running it up on iTunes.
Speaker 1: Oh that's or if they had a song and again
Speaker 1: this is us talking here, or if they had a
Speaker 1: song that it stayed with the character the whole time. Yes,
Speaker 1: and they continued through like a six episode arc of
Speaker 1: them using that song. A great song, they could have
Speaker 1: made that, because I know even with Hayden at the beginning,
Speaker 1: they tried that, didn't try that. I think I did
Speaker 1: that song? Maybe? How do you think you did? How
Speaker 1: do you not? Because you just have so many I
Speaker 1: remember there was a song that Hayden that recurred for
Speaker 1: her a lot, and it actually got played on the
Speaker 1: radio a bit. I want to Oh I didn't do
Speaker 1: that one. I didn't do that one. Yeah, the one
Speaker 1: that was a single. I remember that, But I might
Speaker 1: have done the one for the show of that song.
Speaker 1: They could have done that with a couple of songs
Speaker 1: they should have. Yeah, um, you know they have her
Speaker 1: here is yeah, that's I don't think this is it,
Speaker 1: but whatever, let's see what else do we have here? YEA,
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Speaker 1: want to run through some of the see John Coogar
Speaker 1: that wanta break on Me, Don't smoke, Luke, strip it Down,
Speaker 1: America country love song like uh Flora Georgia, like confession
Speaker 1: talking those low cash guys are. They're the best dudes.
Speaker 1: They're the best dudes. They are like when you talk
Speaker 1: about good humans, good humans, man, I mean hard workers.
Speaker 1: They they were grinding it forever, like you want to
Speaker 1: talk about a story of how much do you want it?
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, there's one of these word Preston came here
Speaker 1: and set and we talked forever and he cried and
Speaker 1: he told the story about I mean, they just stayed
Speaker 1: in it and swung and swung. And this was their
Speaker 1: first number one because I love the Slave got the
Speaker 1: number two. I know, which I think of that as
Speaker 1: a number one song because you hear it all the time,
Speaker 1: and you know what that song will be no offense.
Speaker 1: I think that song probably lasts longer than this one.
Speaker 1: Even though this was the number one. I know you
Speaker 1: wrote it and I got said this to your face,
Speaker 1: but I think that started them off as like all
Speaker 1: and it's such a big positive message. I love this life.
Speaker 1: Man who doesn't want to hear that every day? There?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I mean, And that's why,
Speaker 1: And that's why I started playing it like I was
Speaker 1: the first one to play, because it comes like our
Speaker 1: shows about positivity. Let me play the song, and you
Speaker 1: know that's kind of where it took off. But yeah,
Speaker 1: not to take listen, you may plenty money off the song.
Speaker 1: And I really like it too. I love I love
Speaker 1: this song. I love his guys. But for them, I
Speaker 1: remember talking and they were like, you know what, we
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of outside cuts, but they felt
Speaker 1: like this song was so right up their will house.
Speaker 1: They're great writers too, so they took an outside song,
Speaker 1: which is always so great. Chesney is the king of that.
Speaker 1: I've sat with Chesney, as he's told other artists. You
Speaker 1: make all you make more in one night of merch
Speaker 1: than you do writing your whole record. Don't worry about
Speaker 1: writing your record. That's crazy. You make, you know, the
Speaker 1: merch thing like you just dropped a bomb. On me
Speaker 1: that I never even thought about is because you know
Speaker 1: what I think is they and I have a girlfriend
Speaker 1: as an artist, and so she writes and she takes
Speaker 1: outside song. She has both. You know, it's important to
Speaker 1: artists to write so they feel so they're artistic. Cup
Speaker 1: is full. But then she she put uh six songs right,
Speaker 1: and so she wrote three of them. She did a
Speaker 1: John Mayor cover because she didn't she didn't cut the
Speaker 1: John Mayr for her record. But in order to make
Speaker 1: this last little set of songs Lindsay did. She was
Speaker 1: like her and Christian Bush, who produced a record. He said, hey,
Speaker 1: go and remake your favorite album all by yourself with
Speaker 1: all the instruments, and so she did. So she did
Speaker 1: all of continuum, made all the instruments, the whole thing,
Speaker 1: the whole did he I'll do fantastic and it's not
Speaker 1: out and it's it's fantastic. Did continue not a small
Speaker 1: record to mess around with doing the whole do? I
Speaker 1: has an intense record to recreate over here. So she
Speaker 1: makes the whole record amazing, What a smart idea. And
Speaker 1: it was never supped to put out like it was
Speaker 1: just for her to kind of find herself. She put
Speaker 1: stop this trying only on this EP, and so she
Speaker 1: wrote three other songs, and so she took a song
Speaker 1: from Ryan Hurd, who's a good friend of mine, and
Speaker 1: a song from Caitlin Smith, who are close and it
Speaker 1: didn't have any relation to her, but she was like,
Speaker 1: these songs are so good. I just have to take
Speaker 1: outside songs too. And for me, I was always like, okay,
Speaker 1: take out the songs to people will buy tickets to
Speaker 1: your shows, but the merch thing is crazy because if
Speaker 1: they're coming, they're also buying your merch. I'm such a
Speaker 1: believer in the outside song man. Here I'm gonna play
Speaker 1: I would if I were you too, because you're writing them.
Speaker 1: Yes I would. I would hope that you were a
Speaker 1: believer the outside songs for us if you were. I
Speaker 1: just want more of it. I want more writers to
Speaker 1: just write the best song in the room and just
Speaker 1: you know, I want to play you this is that
Speaker 1: this is not out anywhere, and she'll kill me for
Speaker 1: having this out, but she didn't. Just she did everything
Speaker 1: on this by herself, from the keys, all of it.
Speaker 1: It's my favorite of my favorite records ever. Me too,
Speaker 1: she's playing all she's doing everything that you hear ship,
Speaker 1: She said, around with it all every so crabby. This
Speaker 1: word kid, gainst me. It's just recording on a laptop.
Speaker 1: Good gray, what's a friendly day? So she makes a
Speaker 1: loud I have this all time. That's so magic, And
Speaker 1: we're gonna go watch John may together because we're like
Speaker 1: nerds for John, he's so so much. I'm the biggest
Speaker 1: story for him. I'll tell your John Mayor story. I'll
Speaker 1: match yours. Go ahead. I was a kid John and
Speaker 1: I was like eight. My was like twenty. I was
Speaker 1: in college. I went to see him in at Ronto College.
Speaker 1: I was obsessed. Man. I was like he had hung
Speaker 1: the Moon. And we followed him after the show to
Speaker 1: like this little restaurant and I was like, saw him
Speaker 1: over there and I went up to his booth. I
Speaker 1: was like, John, I'm such a big fan. I just
Speaker 1: want to say, Hi, did you induce myself? And He's like,
Speaker 1: just suck my dick. That sounds like something. He was like, dude,
Speaker 1: like straight up life, so scared, like not like and
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to like do it. And I bet
Speaker 1: you were stunned, like is he being serious or not?
Speaker 1: I was twenty years old. I know, I had no idea.
Speaker 1: I wasn't in the music business. Really, He's like, I'm
Speaker 1: just joking. Man comes to there, come out dinner with us,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, I've had because i've probably
Speaker 1: And again, I don't think in real life, John and
Speaker 1: I would be like buddies. Do you know do you
Speaker 1: know him? We've hung out probably eight or nine times.
Speaker 1: You have, yeah, yeah, yeah, but not like he's such
Speaker 1: an artist and from someone I'm nuts myself and I'm
Speaker 1: all over the I'm all over the platform as far
Speaker 1: as I'm moody and I'm crazy and I'm O C D.
Speaker 1: And I'm to be different. You've gotten to be really different.
Speaker 1: You're not just different part of your life. So the
Speaker 1: most creative people, the people that change the world, that
Speaker 1: are the most creative, aren't just creative in their little
Speaker 1: space that's changing your world. They're really nuts all over
Speaker 1: the place. And it takes that kind of person. And
Speaker 1: he's nuts and and I'm nuts, And sometimes I would
Speaker 1: be in the worst moods that i'd be in the
Speaker 1: greatest mood and I just got tired of guessing. So
Speaker 1: I was like, and I never want to meet my
Speaker 1: heroes and musically, he's my favorite, just my favorite. I
Speaker 1: remember him once we were maybe Houston, and I don't
Speaker 1: I mean, it's been so long with cares. Some girl
Speaker 1: off and we were back in the back and some
Speaker 1: girl come up. It's like, hey, I'm a huge fan.
Speaker 1: And he was like, hey, can I see your bathole?
Speaker 1: The same kind of thing that is so funny, And
Speaker 1: she was like, what was like, I need to see
Speaker 1: He was like, I need to see your butt hole?
Speaker 1: How do we have the same exact story? And I don't.
Speaker 1: And before she actually showed it or didn't because he
Speaker 1: she was just like like, I don't know what to do.
Speaker 1: He was like, let's take a picture, and he take
Speaker 1: a picture and sent around. But he was like, so
Speaker 1: that's his stick, that's like it was like I need
Speaker 1: to see your buttle Oh my gosh, dude, Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: his thing. That's his thing. And I've had some really
Speaker 1: good experience, that's some really bad experiences. And yeah, not
Speaker 1: not not where he's mean to me. He's just sometimes
Speaker 1: he does not he doesn't have a mood where even
Speaker 1: though he's in a bad mood, it's okay. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: that's okay because I was at his time in his space,
Speaker 1: and I have I have no problem with super creative people.
Speaker 1: I have no problem with super weird people being weird
Speaker 1: because that's what they are. You can't expect someone to
Speaker 1: have these wild new thoughts and be so different than
Speaker 1: everyone else, so she'll be the same Luke Kanye Man, Yeah, nuts, genius,
Speaker 1: genius the test, Like, guy, I bet you think, and
Speaker 1: you probably eats poop and it's probably like like I
Speaker 1: don't And again I'm just saying that, but it probably
Speaker 1: doesn't so weird this plate. But you have to be
Speaker 1: cannibal for all we know. You have to be that
Speaker 1: weird to change the world. Believe that. Yeah, and if
Speaker 1: you're that weird, those are the people that make the
Speaker 1: differences and change the world. Like, I don't know that
Speaker 1: no one's reading that book called The Originals. Is that
Speaker 1: it's all about this but eating eating poop? And yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's like you should read I was talking about.
Speaker 1: I haven't read it. It's it's just how about to
Speaker 1: be original and how the originality changes and move the needles.
Speaker 1: Don't you think that like super original people like have
Speaker 1: no choice but to be original? Yeah, I agree, It's
Speaker 1: like you can read all the books you want. He
Speaker 1: had no choice to be the David Bowie. Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1: It's harder to not be you. Yeah, it is to
Speaker 1: conform if you're just so different. Like I've tried to
Speaker 1: not be me. I've tried to be like just the
Speaker 1: dude who's just always a nice guy, and it's just
Speaker 1: always pot and then it's like that's just not me.
Speaker 1: I am. And I try to find the positive and
Speaker 1: things a lot, and I went to a lot of
Speaker 1: therapy and I try to, but I'm still me and
Speaker 1: I'm nuts and I know it, and I'm in My
Speaker 1: relationships suffer because of it. And I just find my
Speaker 1: strengths and I try to stay to them and I
Speaker 1: try to work on my weaknesses. But I know I'm
Speaker 1: never gonna be good at certain things, and I know
Speaker 1: I'm always gonna be I'm always gonna work really hard.
Speaker 1: But I'm nuts. I don't need poop nuts, but nuts.
Speaker 1: But you're nuts too. Really good interviews. Mm hmm, we'll
Speaker 1: see because I want to play here because Ross had
Speaker 1: a deal. You were an artist in the UK, but
Speaker 1: you're not from Virginia, which is weird. How did you
Speaker 1: end up as a UK recording artist, and I started
Speaker 1: going to New York in college, playing The Bitter End
Speaker 1: every month, kind of going back and forth and just
Speaker 1: playing songwriter nights there, and started meeting guys at labels.
Speaker 1: It would come after the Bitter End. I was that
Speaker 1: was idolized that place because it's like we're Dylan started
Speaker 1: and uh, I meant a few guys who worked had
Speaker 1: a little label called Phonogenic Records, and they had signed
Speaker 1: a Tasha Beddingfield. I love by the way, I love
Speaker 1: the time, and I don't know your relationship too, but
Speaker 1: as a person and as an artist, she's amazing. She
Speaker 1: was her brother Daniel a little nuttie. I don't know him,
Speaker 1: a little bit, a little nutty, but Natasha was really
Speaker 1: have another brother who's even more nutty, a younger brother.
Speaker 1: I assume they're all nuts but still like genetically have
Speaker 1: to be again same thing. But you can be nutty
Speaker 1: and be awesome. She was always fantastic to me, was
Speaker 1: and I always wonder where is she now? I was
Speaker 1: thinking about that she and Pop. You can kind of
Speaker 1: go away, you do, they just they discard you, they
Speaker 1: do don't you, and you can't come back. It's so hard.
Speaker 1: You can come back country. It's cool to come back,
Speaker 1: it's cool to cock it's pete. People want to see
Speaker 1: Stapletons the ultimate come back in a way, I he's
Speaker 1: always here doing it. Stapletons those different because people didn't
Speaker 1: know him. Yeah, maybe for us he's a comeback. Yeah,
Speaker 1: outside of the book because Stepan right stuff everybody for
Speaker 1: a long time. And if you knew the steel drivers,
Speaker 1: if you knew that kind of that's what I'm yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but people love just generally in America, our society, we
Speaker 1: love to see someone rise from the ashes that we
Speaker 1: love to knock them down because we think they're getting
Speaker 1: too big, and then we loved him rise back up again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what for some reason, why this that weird thing
Speaker 1: of we want to see the underdog win. But if
Speaker 1: the underdog cards get full of themselves, which even if
Speaker 1: they're not, we assume they are, we want to see
Speaker 1: them fall and get busted with a nine prostitutes. Kanye
Speaker 1: and the back of Ice kind of turned on Kanye.
Speaker 1: We kind of kind brought it on himself. But so
Speaker 1: you you're playing at this, you're playing the bitter end. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so these guys offered me to do that had Phono
Speaker 1: Jack Records. My lawyer was the Script's lawyer at the
Speaker 1: time and he had both of us and me and
Speaker 1: the Script basically got the same exact record deal at
Speaker 1: the same time. The band the Script, they're from a
Speaker 1: Scott Yeah. I did a couple of shows with them,
Speaker 1: did they were Yeah, they're really good. Yeah, they're really good.
Speaker 1: So we both moved over to London about the same
Speaker 1: time and started working on our records. And I don't
Speaker 1: thought about them forever. They're another one. Where are they?
Speaker 1: And I wonder if they're still if they're still big overseas,
Speaker 1: because thinks they are kind of still big. They could
Speaker 1: probably come back to Ireland and be awesome, but crush it, like,
Speaker 1: don't do it? Oh you're playing Script. I was gonna
Speaker 1: play a little bit of Script. QUI probably gonna play
Speaker 1: you like which song? Let's see you? The best one
Speaker 1: was break break Even? Right, Yes, this was the jam.
Speaker 1: This was the jam of the century. Ye break even?
Speaker 1: When it is too soon to cut this never never,
Speaker 1: there's there there are no rules. I love This would
Speaker 1: be a great song and people wouldn't even know it,
Speaker 1: you think, I don't think they would I'm getting I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do this. Brandon right by the way, is my
Speaker 1: favorite human and artist. He was to the first people
Speaker 1: I I brought it here. I was still up, but
Speaker 1: I'm barely breathing, the just pringing to a guy that
Speaker 1: I don't believe it all these lines because I got
Speaker 1: time while she got freed up. I thought about the
Speaker 1: scripture forever because when a hot breaks going, don't break
Speaker 1: even the best days some of movel and you brought
Speaker 1: it back and then it's like, oh, it's so good.
Speaker 1: You and these guys go to England together. Yes, So
Speaker 1: I was like in the back of the studio with
Speaker 1: them while they were making this record. Yeah, and they're
Speaker 1: like they were coming to my shows and like ross
Speaker 1: because my record came out before them crazy and they
Speaker 1: went on to be hugely successful for a couple of
Speaker 1: songs we go, So yeah, really they were they let's
Speaker 1: think about my life path, man, Like I had two songs?
Speaker 1: Is it kind of did okay? But then it it
Speaker 1: kind of dissipated. What was your biggest song as a
Speaker 1: solo artist, because I don't have much of your solo
Speaker 1: wrote okay, nobody somebody's side. You had a sound. I
Speaker 1: loved Oasis man, I wanted to be that. It's like
Speaker 1: the it's like the Southern American oasis always it's like
Speaker 1: skinner of no Oasis meat Wow. So how that song
Speaker 1: I'm do in the UK? That was like we got
Speaker 1: to like twelve or something on the UK chart. Were
Speaker 1: you ever famous over there as an artist? Like for
Speaker 1: a minute? Really maybe a second of a like there
Speaker 1: was a lot of posters of me around London and
Speaker 1: the UK and like for like a hot second. Um,
Speaker 1: that's cool. My second song didn't do as well? What
Speaker 1: was that one? It's called found You. I will say
Speaker 1: the artist dream never does truly die as much as
Speaker 1: I suppress it. And like I'm happy doing writing and producing.
Speaker 1: I always do secretly want to do like a Guerrillas
Speaker 1: type band with a cartoons where no one knows it's you,
Speaker 1: when no one knows behind the stage. If you want
Speaker 1: to let me know, I do always dream of it,
Speaker 1: like you know that on a tour bus. I've always
Speaker 1: want to do the tour bus thing. Dude, Oh I don't.
Speaker 1: I've never gotten if you're a German folk because we
Speaker 1: go out and when we do the regging idiots, we
Speaker 1: tour wait too hard. I know, people don't. I mean
Speaker 1: we're because you're sha. You're on a bus with all
Speaker 1: the hundred people recycled ERGEs. It's just the air, and
Speaker 1: there's one little bathroom and there's and your little bunks
Speaker 1: and you're living at a it's to be in a
Speaker 1: band and travel on a bus is gross. I would
Speaker 1: imagine it's like being a fourth grade teacher. It's like
Speaker 1: that kind of gross. And as soon as you move in,
Speaker 1: like all the germs just infest the wall and you
Speaker 1: have to because and we will go and you get
Speaker 1: a bus and we could fit twelve on a bus,
Speaker 1: right and we would get the bus and it will
Speaker 1: be you know me and then obviously Eddie, and then
Speaker 1: we will just go fill our group. Like for example,
Speaker 1: we're doing like five shows and Brandon Ray is coming
Speaker 1: out and doing these shows with us, because I'm like, Brandon,
Speaker 1: you've gotta compline, Like we're doing Stagecoach, come play with us,
Speaker 1: you Root nine, come play with us. We're doing Faster Horses.
Speaker 1: Like the weird thing is that you're the reason he's
Speaker 1: playing all those crazy shows, because I was like, how
Speaker 1: is Brandon playing crazy shows? Like next level shows. That's
Speaker 1: how it's amazing. He's I had to get Brandon because
Speaker 1: here's the thing about Brandon Ray. If you're listening right now,
Speaker 1: just remember that year band is going to be a monster.
Speaker 1: I agree. And when he's a monster, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: like I remember when Brandon Rey was playing in The
Speaker 1: Raging Idiots. That's amazing and it's sathing with Kelsey. He
Speaker 1: has that thing. Cousin Balleri played in the Riging Idiots.
Speaker 1: She did didn't shoot. We were her first I forget that.
Speaker 1: We were her first ever tour ever. Gosh in life,
Speaker 1: soots is the new vehicle. So and there should maybe
Speaker 1: be like a fee to the feet down the road,
Speaker 1: like a twenty years down the road. There's a fee
Speaker 1: we should pay them. We do pay that, you know what,
Speaker 1: I do pay them to be honest, that's the fee.
Speaker 1: But wow, But Brenda Ray is awesome and you're awesome
Speaker 1: because man, you sound that who knew? How about this? As?
Speaker 1: This is my favorite one. This was the it was
Speaker 1: the free download in the UK. It was like the
Speaker 1: first time they'd done the free iTunes download. It was
Speaker 1: the highest downloaded song in the UK history. You were
Speaker 1: the free downloads this one was like, there's a and
Speaker 1: what's the story Morning Glory? There's part of that record
Speaker 1: that's that's real, a lot of a lot of instrumentation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's I hear when you say A waysis is my dream?
Speaker 1: Did you ever watch the Oasis documents? Watch so bad
Speaker 1: and hearing about it, it's so they're so nuts. Nuts.
Speaker 1: You're talking about creative people doing creative things, and part
Speaker 1: of being creative is that you're not like other people,
Speaker 1: So you're nuts. Have you seen the Backsttery Bores documentary. Yeah?
Speaker 1: I watched that. You know what was funny to me
Speaker 1: about that is the fact that Brian couldn't sing. And
Speaker 1: I don't know if that was real or if it
Speaker 1: was really contract because I listen as someone who also
Speaker 1: it makes TV shows. My guest would because I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's a thing, it's a mental block. I've worked with
Speaker 1: them my studio here on a song. Okay, now you're
Speaker 1: gonna be able to shed more light on this. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you what I think they tell me. I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: I think it's probably a thing. But for sake of
Speaker 1: the documentary, you take things that are six and you
Speaker 1: make them a nine. It's a real it's a real thing.
Speaker 1: It's a it's an actual medical thing. Um. I forget
Speaker 1: the name of it, but it's a mental medical it's
Speaker 1: actually medical. So it's something happening with his body and
Speaker 1: his throat or something about his throat. Um. I can't remember.
Speaker 1: Kevin described it to me, but we broke him of
Speaker 1: it in the studio. Oh you did, so he's from
Speaker 1: that anymore. Brian sing this like Black Street like, and
Speaker 1: he was like, oh black Street like, no diggity, And
Speaker 1: immediately he was like and he just nailed it and
Speaker 1: he came out of his shell. You ever seen Major
Speaker 1: League two where Rue can't throw the ball back to
Speaker 1: the picture and until he starts residing the playboy. That's
Speaker 1: what it reminds me of. Sing Black Street and he's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, hey, hey, hey, it comes, but he's like
Speaker 1: right back, but it's like, hey, sing you know the
Speaker 1: call exactly. Craig Wiseman was talking about this today about
Speaker 1: mental block, like Tiger Woods has everything it takes to
Speaker 1: be the number one golfer in the world every year,
Speaker 1: but it's his mental Sergio had the issue until yesterday.
Speaker 1: Like Sergio lost so many he had all the talents
Speaker 1: all mental for all of us in every field right
Speaker 1: your field, my field, Yeah, it's it's it's all fields,
Speaker 1: it's all fields. Yeah, you've got to be in the
Speaker 1: game mentally, like in that little silver lining zone of
Speaker 1: just magicness. And there are times where I break down.
Speaker 1: I think, so he's you, So he's back. So would
Speaker 1: you be willing to say that back treat's back? All right?
Speaker 1: All right, yeah definitely. So the a CM moment was
Speaker 1: my favorite performance of the night. I was on my chair,
Speaker 1: like you worked with that. I didn't know this part.
Speaker 1: I don't know because I felt like I've I've learned everything.
Speaker 1: I know that this song is not out yet. Okay,
Speaker 1: So what you worked with them on on your song?
Speaker 1: So me and wrote a song. Me and Josh Heire
Speaker 1: wrote a song with Ustin Lynch that Dustin didn't cut
Speaker 1: and Backstreets somehow heard it and loved it and came
Speaker 1: to town and cut it with me and Josh. Really, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was crazy. Isn't it weird that Kevin is like Kevin?
Speaker 1: To me? It's weird one that they're still called the Boys,
Speaker 1: but that's just their name, it's her name. We're thinking
Speaker 1: if they did country. They could be the back back
Speaker 1: road boys. That was actually Keith Urban. I shouldn't take
Speaker 1: credit for that. They just have to be the backstreet boys,
Speaker 1: just like boys, but men to men to what could
Speaker 1: they change it to? They can't. They just can't. It's weird.
Speaker 1: They're so Southern though, because Kentucky like they are. I
Speaker 1: never kenk they're so souther. I had no idea, My
Speaker 1: here's this, here's a story for you. So I did
Speaker 1: it a girl whenever I was twenty years older. So,
Speaker 1: and right before we dated, she was Nick car She
Speaker 1: did a Nick Carter for like a year and a half,
Speaker 1: so I was like Nick four and then before Yeah
Speaker 1: she took that down. Yeah, she definitely, And there was
Speaker 1: there were It's a tough, a tough act to follow on,
Speaker 1: so you just worked with it. Did you do any
Speaker 1: of this stuff with them before? To George Line, No,
Speaker 1: that was Joey. Yeah. So how did you end up
Speaker 1: getting with the back sh boy? Straight up? It was
Speaker 1: the song. Their manager reached out and they're like the
Speaker 1: boys would like to come to Nashville and work with you,
Speaker 1: And I was like your life look at you? See?
Speaker 1: It was crazy? Why do people like you? Someone I
Speaker 1: don't know, like I mean, like I like you, but like,
Speaker 1: how do people hear about this? How I'm gonna play
Speaker 1: you something here? Let's see, let's what how about? Oh
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you about this because Shane mcin I
Speaker 1: we're talking about this and no not at all, but
Speaker 1: we're talking about how so many songs you can just
Speaker 1: take four chords and make them sound like every song.
Speaker 1: And you guys had the answers. We had to put
Speaker 1: in ARLs Bark late on the song on the bred
Speaker 1: elderd song. Yeah, so just getting out ahead of the
Speaker 1: lawsuit things right now, let me let me put you here.
Speaker 1: Hold on, this is that beat of the music, which
Speaker 1: is a great song. I remember Brett coming in and
Speaker 1: being like, man, Brett wrote this when you guys right,
Speaker 1: and brettan like man, I was like half sleep and
Speaker 1: I get like this thing that we got in and
Speaker 1: wrote we wrote it. Okay, that's that one. Lose my
Speaker 1: Mind is drunk in your which one is it has
Speaker 1: the yeah, lose my Mind? Okay, but you did all
Speaker 1: these songs. Yeah, okay, it's just one. Okay, hold on, crazy,
Speaker 1: it's they're not that they're the same. But like Ross
Speaker 1: I'd like to call people out and be like, for
Speaker 1: sure you're saying we gave up a piece of that song,
Speaker 1: and you would I think you would have lost anyway.
Speaker 1: But I don't, I just if I if I'm on
Speaker 1: the Jerry, I don't. It's I thought, if anything, here's
Speaker 1: Brett Elder should have changed me here It's one word.
Speaker 1: There have been so many Britney spears went crazy and
Speaker 1: her song too. It's just happened too many times for
Speaker 1: that just and they would have never heard the song.
Speaker 1: I don't know. They have a wonderful way of finding money.
Speaker 1: People have a wonderful way of finding money, all right,
Speaker 1: especially the States of like Sam Cook and stuff like
Speaker 1: the Marvin Gay estates. I definitely and we should have
Speaker 1: just changed it. You make me crazy. You know why
Speaker 1: you didn't because that's so I didn't want to change it,
Speaker 1: but didn't want to change it because it was it
Speaker 1: was like your mind went to like a hit song.
Speaker 1: That's why we wanted to keep it. But I don't
Speaker 1: even think, like, oh, you're even talking me into it now.
Speaker 1: But I don't even think that it's they had a
Speaker 1: post rum music row, Bobby like for the writers of
Speaker 1: that song like they had a poster like congrats to
Speaker 1: danger Mass first number one song. What had post You're
Speaker 1: not You're serious? Yeah? Wow, so you had to have
Speaker 1: funny you had to see on Dangerous to that song?
Speaker 1: Just those two. Still can't get him on the phone.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get a co write. I can't get
Speaker 1: him on the phone. I'm gonna play it again because
Speaker 1: Thomas did it on song too, Sam Cooke's Family or
Speaker 1: some things. Thomas Rhet did it on vacation with uh
Speaker 1: glow Rider. That's the second one Thomas Rhet did then
Speaker 1: because they did it on his first song, because that
Speaker 1: Sam cooked daughter was at the bm My Awards and
Speaker 1: accepted to being my award. See, I didn't know that
Speaker 1: for a different one, his first Crash and Burn. Oh gang,
Speaker 1: you know what? And I stay Upson wrote that too,
Speaker 1: and dress I was like, hey did you I don't
Speaker 1: talk about it and no, no, it wasn't that. I said, hey,
Speaker 1: did you actually use Sam Cooks? Because I want to
Speaker 1: play some of it. It's funny you bring this up
Speaker 1: because I say did you actually use? Because it's that's
Speaker 1: the sound, doesn't mean hey, working on the chain, don't
Speaker 1: you know? Right? That's like the original, and so crashing
Speaker 1: Burn was again, it's not enough. I feel like to
Speaker 1: have done it, but they would. I actually thought they
Speaker 1: used part of the song as a sample, see exactly,
Speaker 1: and it wasn't. And because she was like no, I
Speaker 1: was like, oh my, it's the point. It's almost impossible
Speaker 1: now to really do something that sounds like nothing else
Speaker 1: it is. I don't think you would have lost that lawsuit.
Speaker 1: I don't think you would have lost the lawsuit because
Speaker 1: it's one freaking word. It's not, it's not, it's not
Speaker 1: what's the song? The more the more uh blurred lines,
Speaker 1: and that ruined it for all of us. That ruined
Speaker 1: it for all of us. Though, that makes you'll have
Speaker 1: to watch are you're gonna go seven million dollars? Like
Speaker 1: they did? Like it's like if you don't get ahead
Speaker 1: of it, they did, didn't They um did Thomas song
Speaker 1: that I thought would get him in trouble, which didn't
Speaker 1: was was the slow one and it's not like ed Sharon,
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I was. I even asked him. I
Speaker 1: was like, hey, have you have you heard anything about that?
Speaker 1: Thinking yeah, thinking out laughing at Sharon and Thomas. Retz
Speaker 1: was happy and I was like, uh, those are very similar.
Speaker 1: And by the way, preface I love Thomas. Yeah, great dude,
Speaker 1: But I asked him about that, goes, No, they haven't.
Speaker 1: They haven't never reached out at all and probably doesn't care.
Speaker 1: And Ed got sued the same song by somebody else.
Speaker 1: I'm trying somebody from American are uk idle? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: remember that. My point isn't that everybody's stealing song. My
Speaker 1: point is it's hard now to come up with original state. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's always psyched. There are just so many sounds you
Speaker 1: can make. There's not that many notes. And yeah, the
Speaker 1: only person making new notes is Keith Urban. So if
Speaker 1: you don't get with Keith Urban, you're not getting into
Speaker 1: That's a great question, though, who is there? You said,
Speaker 1: it's hard to make this piece of music that sounds
Speaker 1: like nothing else. That's like what I try and do
Speaker 1: every day in my life. I try to at least like,
Speaker 1: is there anything right now that you're that excited about?
Speaker 1: It's also and before I answer that, I mean, you
Speaker 1: say this in comedy, because I'll do stand up comedy
Speaker 1: has got to be similar, right, how many jokes very
Speaker 1: similar jokes? Every concept has been talked about a hundred
Speaker 1: times interesting, and we're like minded people. Most of us,
Speaker 1: if I'm going on stage with so many experiences, were
Speaker 1: like minded. We're probably sad internally, and that's why we're
Speaker 1: on stage looking for love. And I'm like kidding here,
Speaker 1: I'm being serious, Like we don't get on stage and
Speaker 1: try to get the love of other people that you
Speaker 1: don't know because you just feel like it that there's
Speaker 1: a lot of similarities, interesting darkness inside of comedians. Interesting.
Speaker 1: It's like the sad person wants to make everybody laugh
Speaker 1: and there you're searching for love somewhere. And so you've
Speaker 1: lived similar paths. The good looking rich kids, never the
Speaker 1: famous comedians, they're just not because it comes from somewhere else.
Speaker 1: So similar experiences, similar mind frames, the topics of the
Speaker 1: world are similar. You're gonna get a thousand jokes that
Speaker 1: are somewhat the same. And so it's tough. What I
Speaker 1: do is I try to make all I try to
Speaker 1: do as much about me in my personal and even
Speaker 1: then your stories probably a hundred jokes like it to
Speaker 1: the things that have happened to Yes, that's how are
Speaker 1: there is there enough material of of real things that
Speaker 1: have happened to you. I mean, I wrote a book
Speaker 1: in the book you know, and it and it did well.
Speaker 1: It was the best selling and it was fine. And
Speaker 1: there's enough material that for like one act. But then again,
Speaker 1: you know, as we're about to cut the special, I'm
Speaker 1: starting to work on the second act. And it takes
Speaker 1: a year or two yourself, Yeah, I mean, it's all
Speaker 1: you got and tested and suck, you don't. Big comedians have, right,
Speaker 1: A team's like Chris Rock will write something, or I'll
Speaker 1: have somebody say hey and they'll work on stuff to this,
Speaker 1: or he'll go out and practice it and they'd be like, hey,
Speaker 1: what if you do this? And you'll try it. But
Speaker 1: the thing that like comedians do is they can go
Speaker 1: out like Ris Rock did it in Nashville Zanies. He
Speaker 1: did four shows in like two nights and just work
Speaker 1: material because it's not the differences No Mike needed though,
Speaker 1: and he walked out with notes and he's going through notes. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's so cool. The differences For me, if I take
Speaker 1: out my guitar and I'm not a musician, I play
Speaker 1: guitar and I sing and not you don't do either
Speaker 1: very well. But I can practice and get muscle memory
Speaker 1: and playing a song and practice singing, and I can
Speaker 1: sit in my room or I can go someone practice it.
Speaker 1: You can't practice on jokes to a wall. You have
Speaker 1: to go out and actually and see if it works.
Speaker 1: And the funniest things I've ever written bomb hard and
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, this is gonna kill and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I didn't work, and the stuff that you don't think.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you're like, I'm just gonna throw it out there
Speaker 1: and see what happens. It's like, that works, let me
Speaker 1: try it again and just switch it up a little
Speaker 1: bit interesting. But same thing with comedy is music. Is
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is that art it's just art period.
Speaker 1: I love that and that you tweak it and it's art.
Speaker 1: It's been done a million times a million different ways.
Speaker 1: Like good luck trying to find something completely. But when
Speaker 1: you can, and occasionally somebody dies, you're like, huh, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Who do you like? Okay, I'll ask you who do
Speaker 1: you because you ask me that right now. Somebody You're like,
Speaker 1: they're changing the game a bit. Who is it you want? Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't care it is. I think it's fine for
Speaker 1: people have a ton of different types of influences and music.
Speaker 1: Nobody has a playlist. I think this Julian Michael stuff
Speaker 1: is gonna be so special because Julian Michaels, because she
Speaker 1: sings melodies that you know here you know and these
Speaker 1: just this Julian Michaels, you still I had this up
Speaker 1: already or did you know? You know I had this already,
Speaker 1: this one I was gonna play for what this song here?
Speaker 1: I didn't know you were gonna say that. You look
Speaker 1: at my list here it says Julian Michael. That's what
Speaker 1: I've been listening to lately, Julia Michaels, Eric Clapton, Layla
Speaker 1: from Unplugged, the New Michelle Branch Weezer, Like, I'm not lying,
Speaker 1: this is a lot. We were my fair bands. Ever,
Speaker 1: by the way, like that was where I was raised.
Speaker 1: On where my glass we are in Buddy Holly's when glasses,
Speaker 1: I mean we are like build my foundation me too.
Speaker 1: Judge me because if you did this the song that
Speaker 1: you were gonna say you for that question, this is
Speaker 1: one of the artists I was gonna pull up. That's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel that. I feel like me and Shane wrote
Speaker 1: with her a few times. No, I know she came
Speaker 1: when she she she would come to Nashville for writing trips,
Speaker 1: and me and Shane would always would write these great
Speaker 1: songs with her, actually play some if I could find him, um,
Speaker 1: and we'd be like, Julia, why are you not an
Speaker 1: artist like right now? And She's like, wow, I don't
Speaker 1: really want to be an artist right now, just like
Speaker 1: just like Marin, she just wanted to write. And then
Speaker 1: she started writing those Selina songs and those Biber songs
Speaker 1: and like she just got into that like silver zone
Speaker 1: of hit thing and then realized I guess that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I had no idea you even knew her, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I kind of. You know, we wrote with a few times,
Speaker 1: so that's knowing her. Yeah, yeah, that's fun. But I
Speaker 1: really do. I keep hearing the song on the radio.
Speaker 1: Every time I hear on the radio, I'm like, that
Speaker 1: is just so fresh, like it's the heart on the
Speaker 1: verge pop song, and Secrets was like, hey check this out,
Speaker 1: and and I was like, whoa, it's so fresh, Like
Speaker 1: it's yeah, all issues and like giving them to each
Speaker 1: other so like just an ability, but sonically one of
Speaker 1: them is all about a natscha. Yeah, that's crazy. One
Speaker 1: of them is as I felt like we could talk
Speaker 1: for four hours. Ross probably made that on a laptop. Sorry, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm saying that they probably made that whole track, like
Speaker 1: on a laptop. Have you been riding any of the
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift country stuff? No? This is news to me. Okay,
Speaker 1: it news to me too. I was just looking at
Speaker 1: you reaction to see if we did breaks. Are you joking? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's recording in town right now. She's working on She
Speaker 1: but but nobody, but nobody knows what's going on. What
Speaker 1: do you mean I want to go. I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: stand out of the studio what no one knows? Like
Speaker 1: and people are arguing do pop? Everything's unlocked. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be the max. You think about her too, as like
Speaker 1: she and why Natshville. I'm calling Nathan Chapman right now.
Speaker 1: You should you know, Nathan, and here you tell me
Speaker 1: I'll never come on lug box. But here's the thing
Speaker 1: that the only thing I would say about her and
Speaker 1: this project is people like, well, if she does countries,
Speaker 1: she won't make as much money. Here's the thing about Taylor.
Speaker 1: If she does a country album, it's gonna go immediately
Speaker 1: pop as well. It's gonna hit two formats at the
Speaker 1: same time. I know it'd be a good move, wouldn't it.
Speaker 1: I think it'd be a brilliant brilliant of course she would,
Speaker 1: because she'd be back at pop, but not meaning to
Speaker 1: why is she so smart? It would be And I
Speaker 1: don't know that she's doing this. This is just my theory,
Speaker 1: like country right now, because it would go pop as well,
Speaker 1: and it would put her back into and then she
Speaker 1: could do the pop record and the love of Oh
Speaker 1: my god, why are they so smart? How are they
Speaker 1: so smart? I don't know that yet. Rot I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know that that's the case. But
Speaker 1: you find out let me know. And I was just
Speaker 1: testa if you do anything I want. You didn't react
Speaker 1: to love that, well, well, I appreciate you coming by. Hey,
Speaker 1: this was literally the best thing of you've ever done
Speaker 1: in my life. It's so serious. This really was. I'm
Speaker 1: not joking. You're so good at this. So you're you're
Speaker 1: so good at asking these questions and I don't think
Speaker 1: I'm good at it. I'm just really interested in it.
Speaker 1: You're You're genuine, You're genuine, and that's what makes you
Speaker 1: so good at your job? Well, I appreciate all the
Speaker 1: compliments you are equally if not more. That was awesome,
Speaker 1: and I yeah, I'm just um, this was a fun talk.
Speaker 1: I'm really interested in this. And again I would tell
Speaker 1: you the truth. I just don't think you would have
Speaker 1: lost a crazy case getting out ahead of it. I
Speaker 1: do get because it would start to freak me out too,
Speaker 1: because you also just don't want to be in a lawsuit,
Speaker 1: like really, you just don't want to have that hanging
Speaker 1: over your head either for freaking eighteen months. I would
Speaker 1: move away and like have to quit. It's just like
Speaker 1: I'm getting sued, and so everything else you're doing is
Speaker 1: is quite so. Just you know, I feel like a fraud.
Speaker 1: The more success you have, the more you feel like
Speaker 1: a fraud, at least I do. The more fraudulently you feel,
Speaker 1: Oh me, for sure. There's a line in a movie
Speaker 1: I remember, I'll Be Black. That was Terminator. And it's
Speaker 1: a whole different thing, but a terminator, know I was.
Speaker 1: That was just a line in the movie. Ross Cobran
Speaker 1: wrote all the songs and has all the money and
Speaker 1: all the friends and all anybody cool that you're working
Speaker 1: with right now. Brandon Ray, He's honestly my new favorite.
Speaker 1: Um doing the new Brett Eldridge record. It's gonna be cool. Um,
Speaker 1: Dustin Lynch, my two little Billy Currington, the background boys, everybody.
Speaker 1: If I were to say, and I'm not this is
Speaker 1: not me, I would never I would never do it
Speaker 1: because I never I've never done this in my life,
Speaker 1: because I have the people that I write songs with,
Speaker 1: like I write the Christian Bush a bit. I write
Speaker 1: with Um, Phil, Phil Barton, Eric Pass like like these
Speaker 1: are the people that I know, because I don't feel
Speaker 1: comfortable on people generally in the country. Song. Do you
Speaker 1: want to write? No, no, no no, because I'm not serious.
Speaker 1: I'm wanna write for raging idiots and I just I
Speaker 1: want to write. I write funny songs. Brandon Ray and
Speaker 1: I write together, and Brandon's funny. He's a good writer
Speaker 1: and he's funny. So you're writing a comedy record, Well,
Speaker 1: look at you, a plaque right way to er. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know what your next? Raging idiots. I'm just
Speaker 1: and stuff right regardless, I'm trying stuff. I would love driving.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no, I want to write
Speaker 1: funny songs. Do you know what's funny is that people
Speaker 1: will come and say, I just need to change. Can
Speaker 1: I please write? Try to write a funny song. That's
Speaker 1: how I am. And you know who I write with
Speaker 1: a lot. And I don't know if your friends with
Speaker 1: them or not, but who I write with a lot
Speaker 1: is Lee Thomas Lee Miller. You my best friend. He
Speaker 1: is like, he's one of my favorite humans in this
Speaker 1: more in this world. The only maybe the only house
Speaker 1: I've ever been to on a weeknight in the past
Speaker 1: five years and had dinner. You go ahead with the family? Yes,
Speaker 1: you do? Like he is that? Like where that I
Speaker 1: didn't know? That's that's my because who talks about it?
Speaker 1: Like what do you go around and brag about who
Speaker 1: your friends are? No, you don't walk around and go
Speaker 1: he you know who my really good friend is. But
Speaker 1: my point is like he's like the does he have
Speaker 1: a charging stage? No he doesn't. He doesn't, but he
Speaker 1: doesn't live you know down in Like yeah, a little
Speaker 1: too far. It is a little too far. But him
Speaker 1: and I all right, because he's fine. I did a
Speaker 1: write around. You gonna come hang with our kids one night?
Speaker 1: I here's let me let me tell you how timidated
Speaker 1: this west for me? Okay, So I write stupid songs, right,
Speaker 1: and they're stupid songs and whatever. And I know I
Speaker 1: wrote walk Raids a little bit too. Yeah, he's an
Speaker 1: interesting writer, very and he's very wordy and very already
Speaker 1: artist creative. So I have my friends. I felt comble
Speaker 1: not being stupid in front of I guess it is
Speaker 1: my answer because it was my thing. But if if
Speaker 1: someone were to, if I would call and go, hey, Ross,
Speaker 1: go write a song like could you fit me in?
Speaker 1: How long will take you to fit me in? Dude?
Speaker 1: For you? And do it that week? Whatever you want. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's not the I was like, like September. Maybe that's
Speaker 1: what I was hoping. I could keep it real because
Speaker 1: to be like, Billy, what's your name? I appreciate had
Speaker 1: me over your house. I've got a story. That's the story.
Speaker 1: I'll leave you this one. So Lee invites me to
Speaker 1: do a writer's round, right, They're like, hey, uh, timpants
Speaker 1: out when you come to around with me, And I
Speaker 1: know that for me it was the worst thing we
Speaker 1: played at the listening room. And he's like, hey, come
Speaker 1: right to me. In a couple of buddies and come
Speaker 1: out and come, Come, Come Doe some song. Because Leon
Speaker 1: and I had written a bunch stuff together. We'd write
Speaker 1: Le and I had read some hip hop stuff together too,
Speaker 1: wrote the dumb song by Starbucks and we did wait,
Speaker 1: wait all this stuff. So I get out there and
Speaker 1: he's like, hey, I want you to meet the two
Speaker 1: guys that are playing with you. And I walked in
Speaker 1: and he goes, hey, this is actually Gorley and this
Speaker 1: is Christie Stephano, two of the freaking biggest songwriters. And
Speaker 1: Lee's hilarious and has had so many hits and hits
Speaker 1: at last the test of time to like he wrote
Speaker 1: like in Color for Jamie Johnson and You're gonna miss this,
Speaker 1: and he wrote it ain't my fault for Brother's Osborn,
Speaker 1: like he's still he wrote that, like he's still putting
Speaker 1: them out. It's crazy, man, his career. And so Lee
Speaker 1: would go like, why don't even nail some song? And
Speaker 1: then here I go, I'll play something totally stupid, right
Speaker 1: like whatever, And then then Stephano would sing a carry
Speaker 1: Underwood song better than it's good. I mean, I know,
Speaker 1: all right, he's got the stump a bass drum on
Speaker 1: his foot he's to play rounds with. I don't even
Speaker 1: know what I was getting. And then it goes over
Speaker 1: to Ashley and asked. He's playing keys and he's singing,
Speaker 1: you know, he's doing Luke and he's doing Cole, you know.
Speaker 1: And then it comes back around to me and I'm like, guys,
Speaker 1: I don't know what you want me to do. I
Speaker 1: guess I'm gonna play this song called when I started
Speaker 1: drinking Boom Boom boom and think about it, I was
Speaker 1: so out of my element. That's so funny. It was
Speaker 1: like three of the biggest songwriters in town and here
Speaker 1: I am up there playing songs in the middle of them.
Speaker 1: I felt so stupid and I was like, I was like, late,
Speaker 1: I can't do that ever again, Like that's just not this.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be a song I'm not you
Speaker 1: guys like I know my talent. I can write some
Speaker 1: funny words, yeah, and I can play about twelve chords.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it was awesome though no, no, no, it
Speaker 1: wasn't it come not for me. It wasn't awesome Ross conference.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it has been fun, and uh, let me
Speaker 1: know if you anything, Like everyone need anything from me.
Speaker 1: I'm doing a round soon. I'm gonna cool. Let me
Speaker 1: know how much I'm watch if it's it's early enough. Bluebird,
Speaker 1: Bluebird in the map. You know. I played the Bluebird
Speaker 1: for the first time, like with with past, like I
Speaker 1: want to know when you do this stuff. I live
Speaker 1: right next to it. I'll come. I don't tell anybody
Speaker 1: because I want to come watch. I want to come
Speaker 1: watch you play around. Then come on, And I'm telling
Speaker 1: you I don't get affect because I've played everywhere. I
Speaker 1: played the Opery twice. I've played Yeah, we've played the
Speaker 1: Opery twice um which sold out the rhyme and twice,
Speaker 1: so I've got to do everything awesome. But let me
Speaker 1: tell you this. Playing the Bluebird, it's a different things.
Speaker 1: People are sitting around on top of you and it's
Speaker 1: like the freaking blue Everybody's everything's a freaking it's like
Speaker 1: the Freepery. Yeah, it's a freaking Bluebird's. I get freaked
Speaker 1: out of the Bluebird. The sound is not very good
Speaker 1: and you're just going and it's not supposed to be.
Speaker 1: It's not supposed to be. You're right, and that's about
Speaker 1: the song. It's crazy. Well, good talk that's a guy.
Speaker 1: How long was if they're never that long, they're never
Speaker 1: that long because they usually only just pretty good. That's
Speaker 1: a good one. It was pretty good, all right, ros command.
Speaker 1: I got a round coming with Laura McKenna, Hilary Lindsay.
Speaker 1: I would think you're okay. I would never ever. I
Speaker 1: sat with Taylor at a c MS. Hey, I was
Speaker 1: right down from you. Did you know that? It was
Speaker 1: so crazy. We were on the other side of too
Speaker 1: big of us are to see you. So I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: I was. I had low cash, was sitting on my road.
Speaker 1: I was next to Hilary on the other side. And
Speaker 1: now I didn't see the other side of hill in
Speaker 1: your row. Yeah, I didn't see. That's so funny. And Laura,
Speaker 1: yeah I wasn't a good group. Yeah, yeah, it was good.
Speaker 1: That was fun. I love Laura's she is the greatest human.
Speaker 1: We got to know where out there so you didn't
Speaker 1: get given so much time weather until then. No, never,
Speaker 1: she's awesome, She's amazing. I mean I wasn't around with her.
Speaker 1: I had to follow a girl crush and humbling kind
Speaker 1: I put your good right now, I did. I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna pass, pass, skip this partner, alright,
Speaker 1: we're gonna go up. Fifty one is over. Thank you
Speaker 1: again to Blue Apron and one A Happy Flowers, and
Speaker 1: I hope everybody enjoys it. We'll see you next time.