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Speaker 1: one today, cool one today. I think we meet. We

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Speaker 1: may play at trivia with the guys. Where in the

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Speaker 1: world is your boy?

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Speaker 2: You know that'd be a good one, some.

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Speaker 3: Dude named Doug.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any doubt in my mind that

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Speaker 1: Dan Bayer would get it, because Dan Byer, he just

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Speaker 1: gets these things, regardless of which welcome in. I'm intrigued

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Speaker 1: by something. I'm just I'm just intrigued by something. What

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Speaker 1: are you clapping about?

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Speaker 3: So? What's so great?

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Speaker 1: What did you feel when Tyreek Hill went down with

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Speaker 1: his injury? You know, what did you feel when Tyreek

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Speaker 1: Hill went down with his injury? I asked that because

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be morbid, I'm not trying to

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Speaker 1: be insensitive, but he is a guy who generates a

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Speaker 1: lot of feelings from people. And you know, it's like I,

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Speaker 1: I didn't get a response from you, Jay Stu. But

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Speaker 1: I think that's probably because you either weren't paying attention

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Speaker 3: I don't know if there is the wrong thing.

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Speaker 1: But last night you're watching the Dolphins take down the

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Speaker 1: Jets and Tyreek Hill goes down with an injury, which

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Speaker 1: I think all of us.

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Speaker 3: Could consider a devastating one.

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Speaker 1: Right and now we've learned that he tore up his knee,

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Speaker 1: he disokayed his kneecap, he's done for the year. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do the his careers in question, even

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Speaker 1: though you know, years twenty years ago, made thirty years ago,

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Speaker 1: he was very much in question. It's not as much

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Speaker 1: in question now. But whether or not he's a superstar

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Speaker 1: upon his return, that's a fair question to ask, completely fair.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I thought one second. Let me

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Speaker 1: let me play for you a little bit of the

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Speaker 1: sound last night of Mike McDaniel. Mike McDaniel's been under

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Speaker 1: a ton of pressure. He's the head coach of the

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Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins, and he had this to say about Tyreek

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Speaker 1: Hill's injury.

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Speaker 4: It was a dislocation. He was probably in the best

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Speaker 4: spirits of any player that I've ever you know, it's

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Speaker 4: such a terrible experience, but he was. He immediately had

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Speaker 4: white eyes and was talking, I'm good. Just make sure

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Speaker 4: the guys get this when you know, he's focused on

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Speaker 3: So I'm outside of that.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure I'll be giving more information tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: I would say that some of his reaction was being

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Speaker 1: in shock. Some of his reaction is one of those

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Speaker 1: what else can go wrongs?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 3: What else can go wrong? Sure? Why not?

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Speaker 1: Of course? You know, of course, And I would be

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Speaker 1: willing to say a portion of it is an honest reaction.

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Speaker 1: You know, hey, go make sure these guys go get

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Speaker 1: one because you don't know what you're supposed to do

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Speaker 1: when you're laying there and you're like, you think your

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Speaker 1: career could be over, because it's an honest feeling to

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Speaker 1: have when you have that sort of grotesque and injury,

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Speaker 1: you don't have the time to go like, you know what,

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Speaker 1: They'll they'll straighten it out, they'll fix it up. It'll

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Speaker 1: be a tough year and a half of rehab, and

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Speaker 1: I'll be Okay, a guy who is has gone through

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Speaker 1: a period where he's the most dynamic athlete in the league.

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Speaker 1: We okay saying that, Like, that's probably how I would

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Speaker 1: contextualize it. The I saw game when they played the Chargers,

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Speaker 1: One was a fumbley pickback and ran for a touchdown,

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Speaker 1: You add in the off the field problems with the

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Speaker 3: And I know I've been the guy who's.

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Speaker 1: Been critical of Skip Bayless back when Kevin Durant was

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Speaker 3: Are the Warriors better without Kevin Durant? They're not.

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Speaker 1: The difference is that though Tyreek Hill has superhuman powers,

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Speaker 1: and he's an unbelievable athlete. He's also an unbelievable pain

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Speaker 1: despite the fact that he's arguably or maybe inarguably the

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Speaker 1: Definitely on their team, but maybe in their division and

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Speaker 3: And a waste.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he has other worldly talent. And whether it

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Speaker 1: was Drew Rosnass's agent or his own internal greed, but

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Speaker 1: it took him away from the Kansaity Chiefs and from

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Speaker 1: multiple Super Bowl appearances and Super Bowl wins, and he

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Speaker 1: good that he could lead that team where he thought

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Speaker 1: he had led the Chiefs, even though he hadn't led

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs. And the perfect example of how you can

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Speaker 1: actually be better with inferior talent is the Chiefs. Chiefs

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Speaker 1: don't have anyone anywhere near as good as Tyreek Hill

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Speaker 1: zero wide receivers. Nobody who's any we're in the in

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Speaker 1: the what's it called when you have your the atmosphere,

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Speaker 1: not just you know, there's no one in the solar

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Speaker 3: How is that possible?

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Speaker 1: Because yes, talent is a lot in professional sports, but

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Speaker 1: so too all of those other things which we deem

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Speaker 1: to be in tangibles, getting along with your coach, getting

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Speaker 1: get the football, like, all those things matter. And apparently

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Speaker 1: I thought, man, that's a waste, because he is such

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Speaker 1: a spectacular talent, but he's still can't get right. He

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Speaker 1: at the same time maintaining and building some form of

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Speaker 1: athleticism to be close to what he's been to this

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Speaker 1: point in the league. Bio, what'd you think when you

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Speaker 6: I had two thoughts. I thought, first of all, that

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Speaker 6: we're going to see Tyreek Hill of being Tyreek Hill

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Speaker 6: on the football field. He doesn't have the same explosiveness

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Speaker 6: and who he is. It's going to be very difficult

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Speaker 6: for him, even though I think he possesses a lot

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Speaker 6: of the top level skills you need as a wide receiver.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he does catch with his hands. He can

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Speaker 6: at times high point footballs despite how how short he is.

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Speaker 6: I felt that this is going to this is the

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Speaker 6: end of the Tyreek Hill that we knew on the

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Speaker 6: football field. I also had a selfish fantasy football reason

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Speaker 6: so on the play that he was tackled and suffered

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Speaker 6: the injury. If he would have dropped the football, I

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Speaker 6: then would have won the game because he wouldn't have returned.

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Speaker 6: But there was also the selfish aspect of it when

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Speaker 6: it comes to fantasy football.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw that somewhere going around that, Like you

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Speaker 1: think about if you had Tyreek Hill and Derek Henry,

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Speaker 1: not Derek Henry, who else?

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Speaker 3: Who are the running backs that got hurt?

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Speaker 2: Braylan Allen got hurt last night? Yeah, for the Jets.

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Speaker 1: You're kind of going through all these guys and you're like,

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Speaker 1: if you had Lamar Jackson, Tyreek Hill, Braylan Allen, like

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Speaker 6: I was trying to think of the scenarios prior to

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Speaker 6: the game, and this is so callous, but this is sorry.

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Speaker 6: Just when you play fantasy football, you have these thoughts.

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Speaker 6: You're thinking, all right, what about he just kind of

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Speaker 6: pulls a hammy? All right, pull something? And then I

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Speaker 6: saw him on a cart and I'm like ooh, because

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Speaker 6: I had actually been at the other game of the

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Speaker 6: know if that was really realistic. I'm not sure how

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Speaker 6: many teams would have wanted to bring in Tyreek Hill.

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Speaker 6: I guess we'll never know, but I just don't think

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Speaker 6: we had started to see a different version of him.

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Speaker 6: Those big plays haven't been there. Teams have been able

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Speaker 6: severity of this injury, and now we're hearing that it

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Speaker 6: could affect twenty twenty six as well. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 6: that this is this is it for Tyreek Hill as

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Speaker 1: Ja sty what'd you think? I know, you've been an

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Speaker 1: outspoken critic of Tyreek Hill the person off the football field.

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Speaker 1: What did you think when you saw Tyreek Hill go down?

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Speaker 7: So I hated it. You tried to goad me, and

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Speaker 7: I'm never going to fall for your goating. You know

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Speaker 7: him a person who doesn't like watching injuries or looking

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Speaker 7: at injuries. I have yet to see it. I have

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Speaker 7: created a skill set to somehow not watch sports injuries

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Speaker 7: that are bad.

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Speaker 7: It's like a sixth sense for me. I know it's

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Speaker 7: I look away very good at that. I hated seeing it.

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Speaker 7: I feel bad for him and the Dolphins. That said,

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Speaker 7: I also think Tyreek Hill represents all almost all of

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Speaker 7: the worst qualities of a public figure and a professional athlete.

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Speaker 7: I think he's kind of a despicable person. I think

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Speaker 7: he's His moral compass is the opposite of what I

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Speaker 7: would want my child to look up to. When you

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Speaker 7: saw him being carted off and he was like ear

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Speaker 7: that now he's got a little extra time on his

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Speaker 7: hands to impregnate as many women as he can.

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Speaker 1: He's like he thought I was going to go to him.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't going you into watching the video. I was

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Speaker 1: goading you into tweeting texting something about Karma because you

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Speaker 1: so despise him as a human being.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, I thought that's yeah.

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Speaker 6: I actually thought that Doug played dirty pool by taking

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Speaker 1: No, uh, Huie can't sing anymore because he can't hear. Right,

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Speaker 8: Yes, is called a Minere's disease, an inner ear disorder.

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Speaker 3: That's so sad, so sad. Uh. This isn't just a game.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if it was just a shellacking,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, gotta get gotta get cleaned up. That's a classic

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Speaker 1: it's the podcast, of course, the Volume podcast network. When

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Speaker 12: that up, I mean, they played the Jets twice, that's two.

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Speaker 5: They played the Panthers next week, that's three. Now, I

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Speaker 5: still think there will be decently.

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Speaker 12: I still like him against the Panthers, but that probably

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Speaker 12: cost him a win or two, just because the little

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Speaker 12: easier now with just the one wide receiver, not to

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Speaker 12: and even Ahan, I mean, to me, the story of

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Speaker 12: that game, God, and I would say.

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Speaker 5: This about Pete Carroll too.

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Speaker 12: You go to the Jets and you go to the Raiders.

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Speaker 5: It's hard, man, it really is.

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Speaker 12: And obviously you know the Raiders got new people, they

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Speaker 12: got Count Brady, the Jets new people, new energy.

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Speaker 5: It's it's just something.

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Speaker 12: About I don't know, it's like in the air because

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Speaker 12: you'd be like, well, what about Horrorball and the Chargers, Like,

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Speaker 12: I don't know. The Charge has been mainly good most

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Speaker 12: of my life, so I mean not like Super Bowl good,

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Speaker 12: but they sure won a lot of games most years,

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Speaker 12: and even their bad teams win like seven eight games.

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Speaker 12: You know, you just watch Pete Carroll and you watch

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Speaker 12: Aaron Glenn. I mean, I thought what Aaron Glenn did

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Speaker 12: last year with like me and you playing defense, that

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Speaker 12: was incredible because like this was of the greatest things

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Speaker 12: I've ever seen.

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Speaker 5: They had nobody.

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Speaker 12: Their entire team was hurt and they were snow playing

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Speaker 12: hard and you can just see it on its face.

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Speaker 5: It's like same old Jets.

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Speaker 3: What's wrong with the with the Ravens.

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Speaker 5: Well, their entire defense is hurt.

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Speaker 12: And you know one thing that you know, because Josh

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Speaker 12: and Lamar are talked about, you know, synonymously a lot. Right,

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Speaker 12: let's face the Bill's defense for the most part has

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Speaker 12: not been good over the last five or six years

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Speaker 12: relative to the elite defense. Lamar went to a place

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Speaker 12: that I don't know. It was like basically Steelers two

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Speaker 12: point zher just known as a defensive franchise, and now

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Speaker 12: they're basically the Bengals on defense. So it's like the

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Speaker 12: the the margin Ferrara on offense, Like we it's like

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Speaker 12: what the Lions did at the end of the season.

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Speaker 12: You better be scoring thirty five minimum every game.

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Speaker 13: You got no shots like that.

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Speaker 12: That's just that's what you're that's you're Thurrow dealt with

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Speaker 12: that last year.

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Speaker 5: And that's this team.

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Speaker 12: I mean, Matta Bouque gone then, always been hurt. Rokuan

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Speaker 12: is out. Now Humphrey who last year was like the

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Speaker 12: catalysts when their defense was sucking early and then they

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Speaker 12: flipped him, they kind of moved him on defense and

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Speaker 12: then their defense was good again, and now he's out.

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Speaker 5: Like I just think that this.

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Speaker 12: Might be they got a little forty nine or vibe

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Speaker 12: of last year. It's like, you know, we're gonna look

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Speaker 12: up and they're gonna be six and eleven. You just

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Speaker 12: can't overcome that many injuries.

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Speaker 13: I don't care what the logo.

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Speaker 12: On the side of your helmet is. And even with Lamar,

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Speaker 12: because they were offense, they blow people out, but they

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Speaker 12: smother you in the second half, like busting huge runs. Right,

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Speaker 12: It's not like, you know, they're the twenty eighteen Chiefs

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Speaker 12: throwing bombs. So the way they've blown a lot of

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Speaker 12: people out in the half, it's a little different than

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Speaker 12: like some of these other teams. And I do wonder

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Speaker 12: if it's gonna really just it's gonna it's clearly throwing

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Speaker 12: them off because they look terrible.

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Speaker 1: John Mittalcoff's our guest sting Ounce the podcast. You can

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Speaker 1: listen to that podcast in the Volume podcast network. This

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Speaker 1: is the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's let's let's go around the league a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Have you.

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Speaker 1: I can't figure out who to blame on that Colts

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Speaker 1: fumble and if he was I feel like that the

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Speaker 1: Colts fumble and the incomplete pass at the end of

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Speaker 1: the Florida State game.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw that game are the

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Speaker 3: same thing.

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Speaker 1: Which those those guys are taught to always like at

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Speaker 1: the end, just tuck the ball. I tucked the ball,

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Speaker 1: and they tried to tuck it and when they move, oh,

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Speaker 1: that's when they lose the ball. Like I'm watching the

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Speaker 1: run in Indy actually was in l A against the Rams.

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Speaker 1: That was incredible run, incredible touchdown, but it turned around

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Speaker 1: the entire game when he fumbled it through.

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Speaker 3: The end zone.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: I mean, I've never had an issue with that rule.

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Speaker 12: I thought it was pretty bang bang too. Like watching it,

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Speaker 12: I'm just actually just pulled it up because I wanted

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Speaker 12: to watch it again. I thought to play where Jonathan Taylor.

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Speaker 5: I mean, the thing if you're the Colts you feel.

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Speaker 12: Good is I think Jonathan Taylor has been through the.

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Speaker 13: First four games like a top five non quarterback in

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Speaker 13: the league as a skill guy.

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Speaker 5: Dean looks dominant. Yeah, and that run.

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Speaker 12: One thing you see And this is where the you know,

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Speaker 12: the defensive coaches, did you think it was that egregious

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Speaker 12: of a old no? You know, and it's like, I

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Speaker 12: try to lean the defense, you know, give him a

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Speaker 12: little bit of grace because it's hard to it's hard

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Speaker 12: to play defense. It's hard to coach defense. Now the

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Speaker 12: rules are against you and some of these penalties, and

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Speaker 12: I think it happens a lot to take attack on

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Speaker 12: defensive holding.

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Speaker 13: But that was like, I mean, I thought that negated.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, like one of the plays of the day.

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Speaker 12: I mean, he's like he looked like Ashton Genty looked,

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Speaker 12: but even way better, like spinning through the tackle.

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Speaker 5: I'm still I like I like the Donnie.

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Speaker 13: Mitchell a lot in college.

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Speaker 5: I like, halfway through that game.

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Speaker 12: I remember I was just kind of taking notes on

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Speaker 12: the NFL Sunday. One of the things I wrote is like,

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Speaker 12: I think the culture for real, I know they ended

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Speaker 12: up losing that game. Obviously, Staffords isn't playing great. I mean,

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Speaker 12: clearly the Rams are really good, but a couple.

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Speaker 5: Of freak things.

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Speaker 12: I'm pretty bullish on the Colts, like I think they're

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Speaker 12: a twelve thirteen win team.

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Speaker 5: You know, throughout the season, something weird happens.

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Speaker 12: But I think it was more just like those two

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Speaker 12: plays and more of an outlier thing.

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Speaker 13: I think they're gonna be fine because I think Dan.

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Speaker 5: Jones looks good.

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: Was it that Minnesota's all banged up or are they

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Speaker 1: getting better?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 12: I think TJ flip the switch the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 12: He looks a little bit better, and he's the heart

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Speaker 12: feat of the squad, so when he goes, they feel

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Speaker 12: more physical on defense. Now you get your backup quarterback

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Speaker 12: in there. Like to me, a backup quarterback wins two

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Speaker 12: games total.

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Speaker 5: He's underpaid.

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Speaker 13: I think you and I have talked about this.

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Speaker 12: So every game the backup quarterback goes, and even Carson

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Speaker 12: Wentz doesn't look terrible, it's just.

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Speaker 5: Not the same.

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Speaker 12: Now you can argue, we don't even know if JJ

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Speaker 12: the starting quarterback, is good. But their offensive line they

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Speaker 12: got injuries again, it's kind of running for his life.

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Speaker 12: It's why Like this week, one of my favorite best

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Speaker 12: of the week is the Browns to make this very.

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Speaker 13: Interesting against Minnesota.

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Speaker 12: How are they going to block Miles Garrett in that front?

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Speaker 12: Mason Grant, Like, the Browns defense is good and their

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Speaker 12: front is good, they could be a major, major problem.

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Speaker 12: So the Steelers are in pretty good shape right now.

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Speaker 12: Right you got the Browns we know are terrible. That

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Speaker 12: the Bengals, I mean, just got no shot, but they

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Speaker 12: couldn't block me or you. And the Ravens just have

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Speaker 12: so many injuries and they're one and three that even

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Speaker 12: if they battle back, like getting the nine wins feel

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Speaker 12: like a miracle this.

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Speaker 13: Point in time.

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Speaker 12: So I think the Feelers, you just got to keep

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Speaker 12: Rogers up right, and I don't see.

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Speaker 5: Now when things can change. He can get hurt.

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Speaker 12: That to me is the big wildcard with him. Like,

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Speaker 12: if you tell me Rogers plays seventeen games, I don't

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Speaker 12: see how they don't win the division.

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Speaker 1: Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: I'm reading several reports that the Browns look like they're

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Speaker 1: going to make a quarterback change and it's going to

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Speaker 1: be Dylan Gabriel. What do you make of the pace

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Speaker 1: of this change like to be made?

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Speaker 12: Well, I mean, I think we kind of knew when

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Speaker 12: Flacco was signed to this god awful team that he,

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Speaker 12: you know what, was the over under of games who

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Speaker 12: was going to start because they weren't going to win

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Speaker 12: many games. But this is also like going back to

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Speaker 12: that story a couple of weeks ago. I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 12: me and you talked about it with Dion saying about

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Speaker 12: like I didn't.

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Speaker 5: Get better on the stanch Bold.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, Deon, You've never been on the bench in your

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Speaker 12: entire light. It's like Shador Sanders. Like I was watching

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Speaker 12: the Ravens game and the backup came in to start

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Speaker 12: the fourth quarter. I mean, he would have got reps

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Speaker 12: in that game, and they drafted a guy you said

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Speaker 12: you don't want to go to these teams. You could

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Speaker 12: have been the backup quarterback. You're not even the backup here.

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Speaker 12: So uh, I think the coaches like Dylan Gabriel. Here's

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Speaker 12: the thing, if Dylan Gabriel shows any signs of life,

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Speaker 12: he's gonna get a very long rope because that's who

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Speaker 12: the head coach and who's also the play caller and

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Speaker 12: also the quarterback guy clearly likes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think otherwise they want to draft they drafted him.

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Speaker 12: You know what's gonna be sad though, Like everyone on

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Speaker 12: social media, it's like everyone's gonna be rooting against Dylan

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Speaker 12: Gabriel Like, guys, you might want to google this kid.

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Speaker 12: He dominated Oklahoma, then he went to Oregon dominated more.

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Speaker 12: Like this guy's not coming from UC.

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Speaker 13: Davis, Like check his resumes.

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Speaker 5: It's not bad.

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Speaker 12: I know he's small and listen, I don't I didn't

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Speaker 12: even like him as an NFL prospect, but I do

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Speaker 12: think the way we talk about him was like, yeah,

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Speaker 12: they just found this guy in like D three. Like, guys,

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Speaker 12: he was a starting quarterback last year at Oregon, Like

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Speaker 12: that was him, you know the guy that we just

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Speaker 12: watched Dee Penn State more. He was his backup. You know,

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Speaker 12: there's no like sitout of rules, Like if he would

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Speaker 12: have beat him out, they could have gone with him,

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Speaker 12: but he couldn't. Like Dylan Gabriels. I mean, there's a

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Speaker 12: reason some of these coaches like him, even if I

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Speaker 12: technically don't.

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Speaker 3: Really why are the Packers better?

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Speaker 12: I give you a pass on the Browns game, right,

648
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Speaker 12: you're on the road. The defense is good, but you

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Speaker 12: gotta when I give you a pass meeting play a

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Speaker 12: bad game, but you gotta win.

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Speaker 5: You can't lose.

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Speaker 12: You got to win that thing ten to three or

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Speaker 12: thirteen to ten or whatever.

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Speaker 5: You just get a win. Get out.

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Speaker 12: Last game's embarrassing. I know they got injuries, but I

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Speaker 12: do think it's an indictment on by de Parsons. You

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Speaker 12: trade two first round picks, you give the guy one

658
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Speaker 12: hundred and ninety million dollars, Like that's the type game

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Speaker 12: in their prime, Aaron Donald, Khalil Mack JJ Watt would

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Speaker 12: have been like, Okay, what am I doing? Four sacks,

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Speaker 12: a strip, bumble tipped interception. I'm taking this all the

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Speaker 12: great players, I mean me and you have been watching

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Speaker 12: football forever, going back to the nineties. So Reggie White,

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Speaker 12: you name it, like there's a weird game, our defense

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Speaker 12: not playing well, I'm going to take this thing over.

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Speaker 12: And it's like he's going up against a player.

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Speaker 5: Who's this guy back up left hand? Like who's he playing?

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Speaker 12: And beside the one play that he made at the

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Speaker 12: end of the game, which is a chase down tackle,

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Speaker 12: which is great, but it's like that they needed him

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Speaker 12: in that because the offense was doing their part right.

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Speaker 12: Offense is lightening up the scoreboards. Defense is and shambles,

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Speaker 12: but they do have one inspired, great player who's definitely

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Speaker 12: paid forty seven million dollars a year.

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Speaker 5: And it's like, I just needed more. You know.

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Speaker 12: The cowboys on defense don't have more to give. But

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Speaker 12: you get Micah Parsons like and he'd be like, well

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Speaker 12: he heard his back in the middle of the game.

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Speaker 12: Well he made the play on Dak what was like

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Speaker 12: in overtime? So he clearly was Okay, I think you're

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Speaker 12: a little like, hey man, and I can't imagine this

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Speaker 12: is like a goodh Kin slash laforward, things like we

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Speaker 12: need you to take over.

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Speaker 5: And that's the thing.

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Speaker 12: You know, a lot of wise men said money doesn't

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Speaker 12: change who you are, Like he is that point, like,

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Speaker 12: this is who Mike is. You're not getting Reggie Wider

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Speaker 12: Lawrence Taylor in your prize. So maybe it's that's just

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Speaker 12: what he's gonna do. He's gonna have some good games,

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Speaker 12: some okay games.

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Speaker 5: He's not like, uh, you know ray Lewis or something.

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Speaker 5: This isn't you know. I know the media annointed him,

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Speaker 5: but I.

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Speaker 12: Don't think very talented player, but I don't think when

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Speaker 12: it's all sudden done people it's one of the greatest

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Speaker 12: players of all time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think he's there, but I do think

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Speaker 1: he's very talented, plays hard. It just defies logic. Two

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Speaker 1: Blackfield goals two weeks in a row.

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Speaker 3: Uh, sort of sleep at the wheel with it.

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Speaker 12: Threw my premise that they needed, like that was a

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Speaker 12: game for him to like get get three sacks.

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Speaker 5: Something happened.

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Speaker 12: Yes, yes, no question, the Special teams.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, Rich got elevated.

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Speaker 12: People love Rich Measascia right, Gruden forever, But you just

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Speaker 12: watch the Special teams to like that.

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Speaker 5: Does anyone know what's going on here?

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Speaker 3: No? No, Hey, Johnny, great stuff. Thanks so much for

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Speaker 3: joining us.

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Speaker 1: that's Doug Gottlieb Show within YouTube. Let's get to a

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Speaker 1: game with Dan Bayer.

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Speaker 10: Dan, this is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.

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Speaker 2: All right, Doug, the game today is rank up. All right, Doug,

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Speaker 2: rank your top three teams in the NFL through four

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Speaker 2: weeks of the season.

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Speaker 1: Bill Eagles, Bill's Eagles, Bills Eagles.

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Speaker 3: Oh this is hard. Now it gets difficult.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting.

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Speaker 6: I have a nomination, but I don't know if Sam's

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Speaker 6: got to use it in Tuesday after the morning quarterback.

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Speaker 2: In the afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what is it? Well?

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Speaker 2: I think the Rams have a pretty good case of

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Speaker 2: being number three.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, lost the Eagles on a blackfield goal. Could have

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Speaker 1: won that easily. Go to won that game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll go with that. I'm going with that Rams.

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Speaker 1: A reason I didn't say charges is the injuries are

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Speaker 1: just piling up, and I don't think I think if

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Speaker 1: they were healthy, i'd have no problem.

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Speaker 3: But they are not healthy. That's why they lost that game.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not why like we look at their schedule

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Speaker 6: and thought the division games early on could be something negative.

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Speaker 6: They go three at zero and now you're going to

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Speaker 6: be shorthanded for a little while. So maybe it's good

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Speaker 6: to get those in the bank.

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Speaker 8: Can we still need a fourth team? Three teams? Sorry,

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Speaker 8: three teams.

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Speaker 2: It's through week four, So I was going.

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Speaker 8: To nominate the Lions. They were probably one of the

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Speaker 8: better teams, right and.

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Speaker 6: Maybe maybe you'll talk about the Lions and Tuesday morning

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Speaker 6: quarterback in the afternoon coming up, Doug, rank your three

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Speaker 6: NFL teams that you're selling your stock on right now

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Speaker 6: through four weeks.

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Speaker 3: Selling stocks. I had to own stock in them to

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Speaker 3: begin with.

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, yeah, who aren't you buying anymore?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Not buying the Ravens. Not buying the Ravens just again,

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Speaker 1: injuries are piling up. Not buying the Vikings, yep, And

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Speaker 1: I'm not buying hey, hey, I'm not buying the Texans.

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Speaker 6: One of three on the season is Houston. Doug, rank

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Speaker 6: your top three teams in college football? Oh, oh Oregan

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Speaker 6: With that.

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Speaker 2: Big win at end State, maybe they cracked the top three.

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Speaker 1: Yes, for sure, Ohio State, Oregon. And I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: with little Miss all right, We've got to point out,

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Speaker 1: you know, Miami two big wins in a row, so

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Speaker 1: doing well and the big window start the season.

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Speaker 6: It's all right, I was like the last one one

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Speaker 6: that's kind of outside the box. Sure, maybe they're not three,

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Speaker 6: but you at least want to give them recognition. Bingo,

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Speaker 6: all right, rank the uh? Rank your top three Syracuse hoopers.

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Speaker 6: You know, yeah, yeah, we've got the news of Lawrence

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Speaker 6: Molten's passing. But your top three favorite Syracuse Hoopers.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: I'll do poetry. And Moten is three because he died

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Speaker 1: today and he was super smooth. Sherman Douglas at two,

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Speaker 1: and Pearl Washington and one.

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Speaker 7: Oh my god, I go DC. I'm gonna DC top

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Speaker 7: my list goes.

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Speaker 1: I love DC, but I mean Pearl and and Sherman

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Speaker 1: Douglas I like idolized as a kid, and they were

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Speaker 1: guards and my dad was in New York City point guard.

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Speaker 3: So that's where it comes from.

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Speaker 2: All right, Mellow didn't even make the list.

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Speaker 6: No, I know it's dismissive, but there is a national championship.

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Speaker 3: No question, that's great. He was there for like five minutes.

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Speaker 2: And that's game time.

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Speaker 10: Game this is game time. On the Doug Gottlieb Show.

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Speaker 1: Cut up in the dug Gottlieb Show. What's the one

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Speaker 1: thing not covered yesterday that's driving you crazy?

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Speaker 3: Well, we won't try to be crazy. Tuesday Morning Quarterback,

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Speaker 3: it's next