Speaker 1: I welcome to episode forty six of the Bobby Cast
Speaker 1: and with Aubrey Sellers. However, this is weird. It's the
Speaker 1: first time we met, but I feel like we know
Speaker 1: each other because I follow you on everything. And I
Speaker 1: guess the reason that I really like you is because
Speaker 1: your music was so different, and that's what kind of
Speaker 1: was like. I was like, Wow, do I like her?
Speaker 1: And then I do this thing at the beginning of
Speaker 1: the year where I picked five artists that I just
Speaker 1: love and it's called the Class and it's like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna follow them and I'm gonna see what they're doing.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna promote them whenever the thing, and you were
Speaker 1: one of the five that I was like, holy cow,
Speaker 1: this is really cool. Thank you so much. That was
Speaker 1: like big, huge surprise for me. And the reason is
Speaker 1: and also want to run a couple of Aubrey Sellers
Speaker 1: urban myths and see if they're true or not. But
Speaker 1: the reason was because your album is just so different.
Speaker 1: And what I thought was cool about your album was
Speaker 1: it just feels like this is something that and here
Speaker 1: I'll just play something. I'll play sitting here and cry
Speaker 1: for a second while I talk about it. It feels
Speaker 1: like that's not your record. Hold, we have too many buttons.
Speaker 1: We're just in my house here, right. It was like this,
Speaker 1: this record is so different that you knew. I just
Speaker 1: me assuming that it was just either going to be
Speaker 1: huge or it had the still the head ability to
Speaker 1: tank because it was so different. But it was just
Speaker 1: so different that you wanted to do it. It It didn't matter, right.
Speaker 1: The truth to that, yes, there's truth to that. I think,
Speaker 1: you know. My opinion is when something is different, it
Speaker 1: takes people a while to get familiar with It's it's
Speaker 1: if it's fresh to your ears. You know, it's not
Speaker 1: going to sound like anything else, and so it might
Speaker 1: not Everyone might not immediately pick up on it. And
Speaker 1: I think some people will need to hear it or
Speaker 1: be exposed to it multiple times before they get it.
Speaker 1: And some people get it right away because they came
Speaker 1: from the same you know, stock that I did and
Speaker 1: listen to the same stuff that I did and get
Speaker 1: it right away. So it's definitely really different. And I
Speaker 1: was thinking about this earlier too. It's just like it,
Speaker 1: it just doesn't matter. I'm going to do my thing.
Speaker 1: It's just the kind of music I make. You know,
Speaker 1: what I mean, and and I think it has potential
Speaker 1: to reach a wide audience and and hopefully, UM just
Speaker 1: keep hacking away at it and see what happens. So
Speaker 1: here's what I heard. So I hear, I hear that
Speaker 1: you go in to make the record, and this can
Speaker 1: be completely true. This isn't on a note that I have.
Speaker 1: These notes are just normal stuff I don't even need.
Speaker 1: But the what I heard was that you go into
Speaker 1: the studio and you're making this record and there are
Speaker 1: no acoustic guitars on. Is that right? Not one? Not one?
Speaker 1: And that that was kind of a fight where they
Speaker 1: were like, hey, maybe you should add some acoustic guitars,
Speaker 1: and you were like, I am not putting again a
Speaker 1: single acoustic guitar on this record. Is true, That's very true. UM.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm I'm a very all or nothing person,
Speaker 1: and I think when I made this record, I really
Speaker 1: wanted to go after it and I wanted to make
Speaker 1: something that was representative of what I love. And I
Speaker 1: have a very country voice and I write what I
Speaker 1: considered to be country songs, but I've been really inspired
Speaker 1: by Led Zeppelin and CCR and a bunch of as
Speaker 1: far as sonically, the way those records sound. And so
Speaker 1: when I went in to make this record, uh, you
Speaker 1: know a lot of the things that I took his inspiration.
Speaker 1: Production wise, we're all electric and they had these you know,
Speaker 1: trashy drums at song has and you know, off those
Speaker 1: old leads up records, and and so I kind of
Speaker 1: just said, look, we're just gonna do it. We're just
Speaker 1: gonna go for it. We're not gonna half acid, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like I wanted to sound like this.
Speaker 1: But okay, I assume you didn't pay for the record though, right,
Speaker 1: And so if you're not paying for the record, it's
Speaker 1: rare that you get to make such a big decision
Speaker 1: about the record. Like how it works as mostly you
Speaker 1: have your you and you have your you influence and
Speaker 1: they have their because Warner is your record label at
Speaker 1: the time. You've got on a couple record labels, but
Speaker 1: one is your current record label, and so I'm assuming
Speaker 1: they're weighing in, going, hey, we also need something that
Speaker 1: kind of fits. Was there this kind of well no,
Speaker 1: so Warner you know wasn't around when I made the record.
Speaker 1: No one was around really No, Yeah, I didn't have
Speaker 1: I didn't have management. I didn't have anything when I
Speaker 1: made this record. I was completely making this with Frank
Speaker 1: the producer and you know, funded by my publishing company.
Speaker 1: So that is how we made it. And he won
Speaker 1: had percent believed in me and what I was doing
Speaker 1: and helped foster that. And that's why I love Frank
Speaker 1: as a producers because every artist that he works with,
Speaker 1: from Miranda Too, you know Jack Ingram to you know,
Speaker 1: David Nail, whoever it is, the record sounds like the
Speaker 1: artist and not like Frank. And he's really good about
Speaker 1: fostering that and people and and respecting their vision and
Speaker 1: so uh, there was a little bit of butting heads,
Speaker 1: but also a lot of respect and I think he
Speaker 1: really got it. And then that's why it turned out
Speaker 1: that way. It's kind of a good news bad news situation.
Speaker 1: Then you're in and you get to do your own thing,
Speaker 1: but you don't have somebody like a big record label going, hey,
Speaker 1: we were involved too, and we're investing in this actual project.
Speaker 1: But you got to make what you want and I
Speaker 1: feel like that's just what you want to do. Like
Speaker 1: I just feel like that's what you do. You just
Speaker 1: do what you want to do. For the most part,
Speaker 1: the deal is is that to me, making music is
Speaker 1: about making music. It's I don't think of it. I
Speaker 1: do want to reach a wide audience. That's why I
Speaker 1: make it. That's why I signed to a record label.
Speaker 1: That's why you know I'm out here doing this. I
Speaker 1: want to reach as many people as possible. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, I believe in what I'm doing, and
Speaker 1: I think you have to. I think that my favorite
Speaker 1: artist that I respect, Steve ORL. Dwight Yoakam, people from
Speaker 1: that era who were mainstream artists but did something completely
Speaker 1: unique and on their own. Uh, those are my favorite
Speaker 1: artist I respect them, you know, and I think they
Speaker 1: have long lasting careers and you can have in this business,
Speaker 1: in this world to day, you can have four number
Speaker 1: one songs and people still don't really know who you are,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Or you can have a
Speaker 1: slow build and maybe not have a hit song until
Speaker 1: your third record, but you know, then you have a
Speaker 1: really long lasting career. You have an identity, and you
Speaker 1: have people who are going to come to your shows
Speaker 1: until you're retired, you know. And that's the kind of
Speaker 1: career I hope for myself and and I think any
Speaker 1: artists should. Well, you know about CCR. I was like,
Speaker 1: so I grew up listening to old these radio with
Speaker 1: my stepdad. So my stepdad and I would listen to
Speaker 1: Cool nine. I grew up in a tiny town in Arkansas,
Speaker 1: and the first band I was ever in, well all
Speaker 1: we did we did all Credence cover songs. And again
Speaker 1: I was born in the eighties, so it wasn't like
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna live really when John Fogerty was here
Speaker 1: and you bring up it's funny you bring up create
Speaker 1: such a big CCR fan. But also and like if
Speaker 1: you're in Texas that CCR also means Cross Canadian Ragley. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so there's like there's like the double So when you
Speaker 1: talk about like the the trashy drums and stuff, I
Speaker 1: mean you're right, yeah, yeah, I do. It's cool that
Speaker 1: that you mentioned the old school stuff, like where is
Speaker 1: your old school music influence? Where does that come from?
Speaker 1: It's funny because nobody in my family listened to rock really.
Speaker 1: I mean, Frank Laddell, who's my stepdad, has a lot
Speaker 1: of You call your step that Frank, Yeah, because I
Speaker 1: called my step that Keith. That's not yeah, that's where
Speaker 1: I mean. Well, then there you go, Yeah, you're right,
Speaker 1: I think about that. But yeah, so you know, he
Speaker 1: listened to some of that stuff, and I think that's
Speaker 1: why we connect a lot of musically. But my mom,
Speaker 1: you know, listening to straight up old school country and
Speaker 1: my dad listened to a lot of that too, and
Speaker 1: then more pop. So so for me, I kind of
Speaker 1: discovered the stuff on my own. You know, I'm part
Speaker 1: of the internet around here, it's almost like there. So
Speaker 1: there are some kids who rebel, like if their dads
Speaker 1: a doctor, they go and they you know, shoot up
Speaker 1: and do what heroin waffle house and you know, they
Speaker 1: just your trouble and they go to jail because they
Speaker 1: want to rebel against that. I felt like, you're rebelling,
Speaker 1: but it's in a weird way of just a different
Speaker 1: your stylistically rebelling. Because let's go to your stepdad produced records.
Speaker 1: He's won a few a c m s right for
Speaker 1: like the produced record. Yeah, they have one album of
Speaker 1: the Year like every year. So Frank your stepdad is
Speaker 1: is that weird to be in that environment, a professional
Speaker 1: environment with basically the person you're related to. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: it's interesting because I think there's a little bit of
Speaker 1: a distance because he's not trying. It's like I was saying,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's why I respect him as a producer.
Speaker 1: I think that he doesn't try to intervene too much.
Speaker 1: He's a good He fosters and he helps and he
Speaker 1: develops and doesn't try to come in there and order
Speaker 1: your on and tell you what to do and what's right.
Speaker 1: We don't yell, but you know, I mean it was
Speaker 1: him that it was like, you know, there was a
Speaker 1: song that we cut that didn't end up being on
Speaker 1: the album that he wanted to put an acoustic solo on,
Speaker 1: and that was that moment you were talking about where
Speaker 1: I was just like, no, it's not happening. I also
Speaker 1: know a little bit of how the business works, and
Speaker 1: you know, I'm like, once you bring that in here,
Speaker 1: it's not going away, Like you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like I know, it's just kind of kind of taking
Speaker 1: a stand and drawing your boundaries. And that was really
Speaker 1: important to me. And so he was really respectful of that.
Speaker 1: And I think he I think he gets him excited
Speaker 1: more than anything. I mean, I think he gets excited
Speaker 1: to work with people who know what they want, you know,
Speaker 1: And I think that's his favorite type of artists to
Speaker 1: work with, from Randa to all these people who have
Speaker 1: always kind of known what they wanted to sound like you.
Speaker 1: Your biological father is a massive songwriter. He's written let'st
Speaker 1: off some songs that he's written, don't you want to say? Yeah?
Speaker 1: They're sunny and seventy five I think was his latest one.
Speaker 1: I'm He's written a bunch of songs and so he
Speaker 1: has his own style. That did he weigh in to
Speaker 1: the record. He has lots of opinions, you know, And
Speaker 1: it's interesting, it's all three of my parents. If you
Speaker 1: could say that I have very unique I don't know.
Speaker 1: They have different opinions, and I listened to them all
Speaker 1: and then I kind of do you know, I do
Speaker 1: what I feel in my heart. And your mom, who's
Speaker 1: lean Walmack, she doesn't sound like you. You sound your
Speaker 1: vocals sound very similar. But again, stylistically, it's like you
Speaker 1: made this record of I'm gonna kind of say the same.
Speaker 1: But I don't want to be anything like anybody else
Speaker 1: that's like you rebelled, except in a nice way, like
Speaker 1: that nice rebelled. You're rebelled with a guitar tone instead
Speaker 1: of trouble. And that's really funny because a lot of
Speaker 1: people say, like they hear my record, they see me
Speaker 1: online or whatever it is, and they, you know, and
Speaker 1: I wear all black and I have this music and
Speaker 1: I'm really aggressive, and I think they expect me to
Speaker 1: be like, I don't know, read, Yeah, you're actually pretty pleasant. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was the first time we about when you walked
Speaker 1: to the house and you were like, hey, just I
Speaker 1: like what you and I was like, hey, good to see. Yeah,
Speaker 1: your Instagram is all black, and so yeah, you're cool.
Speaker 1: You're cool. You're your hair is black. You have your
Speaker 1: hair black, right, Yeah, it's dark brown naturally, but I
Speaker 1: go the extra mile and just go straight black. And
Speaker 1: you have the tattoos. I'm seeing all the rebellion now
Speaker 1: it's slowly started to trickle out. You're wearing how much
Speaker 1: of this black clothes thing is? Like your is all
Speaker 1: your outfit, your closet all black? It is, you know
Speaker 1: mostly Also I like white gray, I like neutrals. But
Speaker 1: what do you emotionally? Why do you think that is?
Speaker 1: When I started dressing for stage or for shows, when
Speaker 1: I started playing three or four years ago, that was
Speaker 1: just what I picked every time and then you like
Speaker 1: Twilight was that three? I did watch all the Twilights.
Speaker 1: That's not why I dressed like this. No, it's literally
Speaker 1: just what I thought looked the best. And then I
Speaker 1: kept buying more and more, and now that's kind of
Speaker 1: a thing now, and now I can't wear anything else. Seriously.
Speaker 1: I'll try, I'll put something else on and be like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna mix it up tonight, and I can't do it.
Speaker 1: It's just there's something. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm O c D or oh definitely, no, no,
Speaker 1: you definitely. Even your tattoo has no color, like it's
Speaker 1: not even just a thing. Even your permanent stuff has
Speaker 1: no color on it. Like my I'm most too, because
Speaker 1: they're all perfectly aligned with each other, and so mine
Speaker 1: is not about color so much is that everything's got
Speaker 1: to be in order. And I'm very time O c D. Two.
Speaker 1: Mike Decent was like, hey, Albreay's gonna be over here.
Speaker 1: She just left um and it was like six minutes
Speaker 1: before we start, and I was like, oh boy, she's
Speaker 1: gonna be late. I'm not gonna You're early. Like a minute,
Speaker 1: I was like, do you know why I know where
Speaker 1: you live. I know right. You can say who it
Speaker 1: is if you want, but I want. But I was
Speaker 1: having dinner at your neighbor's house, okay, Dan from Dani
Speaker 1: Jay Okay, and we were I was were eating and
Speaker 1: meet him and Abby and Lindsay my girlfriend have a
Speaker 1: dinner and I was talking about your It was like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know we were doing this because they're also on
Speaker 1: Warner And I was like, hey, do you know Aubrey
Speaker 1: And he was like, no, where she loves right there?
Speaker 1: And we like walked in the backyard, so you guys
Speaker 1: live over there by, And then you came and peeked
Speaker 1: up my window and then you weren't home, because I
Speaker 1: was like, is she home? Why don't we walk over?
Speaker 1: Because I've never until today, I've never met you before,
Speaker 1: and I've been and I love your album and I've
Speaker 1: been posted on Instagram and I was like, hey, this
Speaker 1: is really cool. I like it because it's just different.
Speaker 1: And I feel like people that chase different things are
Speaker 1: okay with failure, and they're okay with continuing to fail
Speaker 1: as long as they get to fail on their terms.
Speaker 1: And there's all also this understanding of failure that if
Speaker 1: you keep failing, and you have and you're able to
Speaker 1: bounce back from it over and over again, that eventually
Speaker 1: you're going to hit. That's that's kind of my philosophy.
Speaker 1: And I also don't see it as a failure, you know,
Speaker 1: I see it as a slow build. That's how I
Speaker 1: look at it. You know what I mean, what if
Speaker 1: none of your songs making this record make it on
Speaker 1: the radio. That just let's just play that game. What
Speaker 1: if none of your song, let's say, your new single
Speaker 1: I believe is liar, liar. Okay, so here's listen. I'm
Speaker 1: a fan, but let's sound like I'm not. And I'm
Speaker 1: like I would be like every other programmer country music. Okay,
Speaker 1: this just this song right here, it just don't sound
Speaker 1: like hall and it's it's a it's a woman like
Speaker 1: my woman like woman's on the radio, and it's just
Speaker 1: it doesn't It is too bluesy and ain't country. What
Speaker 1: do you say to that? Yeah, I mean I say
Speaker 1: what I said to you earlier was that, look, just
Speaker 1: because it's different doesn't mean people won't connect with it.
Speaker 1: And it may take time, and I think you have
Speaker 1: to find those people who believe in it and honestly,
Speaker 1: you know, Eric Church didn't have a hit until you know,
Speaker 1: a few albums in Miranda didn't have a number one
Speaker 1: song until her third album. I mean, people don't realize
Speaker 1: that now because they're the biggest stars in the country music.
Speaker 1: But I think if you look at what they did,
Speaker 1: it was stick to their guns and do what they
Speaker 1: believe in, and they built an identity for themselves and
Speaker 1: they were true to who they were. And that's my goal.
Speaker 1: And you know, I hope people connect that. Maybe they will,
Speaker 1: maybe they won't, But I'm not going to change what
Speaker 1: I'm doing just to make just to take the easy route,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Are you so angry in
Speaker 1: your songs? So angry? Are so angry? Man? That's a
Speaker 1: relatable story. Oh no, listen, my jams are angry and
Speaker 1: sad songs I love and I tell you, I mean,
Speaker 1: I listened this album. I can always talk about like
Speaker 1: an album if I save over five songs. First of all,
Speaker 1: I think the entire album process is it's so antiquated
Speaker 1: now of making that much music and putting it out
Speaker 1: at once, because that many songs don't really I think
Speaker 1: John Mayor nailed it with what he's doing with putting
Speaker 1: four songs and the four songs and then four songs
Speaker 1: and here's the project. And so he did that Wave one,
Speaker 1: Wave two. He's about to release the rest of the
Speaker 1: record because I get to sit and I get to
Speaker 1: really take in the four songs instead of having fourteen
Speaker 1: songs put at me, and I gotta figure out like
Speaker 1: I love it sharing he just put out of record
Speaker 1: two many songs. It's just like my copy talks about
Speaker 1: the record like seventy three, like a box set, like
Speaker 1: the hut of box set, and it just all kind
Speaker 1: of gets lost, and I need time to sit with
Speaker 1: songs I need. And so I think I'm sorry, I'm disappointing. No,
Speaker 1: it's not that I was gonna tell you you have
Speaker 1: ten songs, ten songs on this record. Okay, I didn't
Speaker 1: say that. Man, I think I saved nine and I
Speaker 1: don't ever say more than four on records. And that's
Speaker 1: how I know I like the record. I said nine
Speaker 1: or fourteen songs. How britally honest? Is that myke that
Speaker 1: told I deleted five of her songs. I didn't delete it.
Speaker 1: They just are not in because I keep a playlist,
Speaker 1: like could I fly all the time. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I want to points all time, and so I have,
Speaker 1: uh yeah, we kind of. Now I have nine songs
Speaker 1: of yours that still make the cut. Congratulations, thank you
Speaker 1: so much. That's good. That's a success. Man. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you what I love. Let me tell you first
Speaker 1: of all, I love to hear in Crown. I know
Speaker 1: that was your last song, you love radio song. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they screwed up. I don't even know that's a single.
Speaker 1: None even told me. I've been playing a you know,
Speaker 1: I blame your people. Really think awesome. How did you
Speaker 1: feel about this song whenever they put it out? I
Speaker 1: love it? Was this your first choice or no? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think that it's a really good representation of my
Speaker 1: sound as a whole and how I write songs and
Speaker 1: I high energy, which is what my show is like.
Speaker 1: And why don't you think it's worked? Like? Really there?
Speaker 1: My answer is that people in radio listen and go
Speaker 1: I need to hear exactly the same thing over and
Speaker 1: over again. That's part of it. There's a lot. There's
Speaker 1: so many parts to it, you know. I mean there's
Speaker 1: there's politics, there's restructuring, there's you know, then you've got
Speaker 1: people resistant to change, and there's a million things. It's
Speaker 1: like people resistance will change, so they cannot avoid it
Speaker 1: right exactly, And I think that's the truth. You have
Speaker 1: to be such a I call it the Butterfly Kisses effect.
Speaker 1: Butterfly Kisses, I mean the song. Yes, that's exactly it.
Speaker 1: Now here's what happened with Butterfly Kisses. So I don't
Speaker 1: know if you know, and you probably don't, but I've
Speaker 1: I grew up in a tiny town in Arkansas, and
Speaker 1: so my grandma played a ton like. I didn't even
Speaker 1: grow up with current country music. I grew up with
Speaker 1: old like Andy Griff's gospel records and from Arkansas. So
Speaker 1: Johnny Cash wasn't just God the country to people in
Speaker 1: Arkansas like he was ours. Because so and then as
Speaker 1: I got older, I started listening to the radio and
Speaker 1: listen to the country, and I would listen to a
Speaker 1: lot of alternative stuff in the nineties, and then I
Speaker 1: was a hip hop kid, and I've worked in all
Speaker 1: these radio formats too. I just love music, oldies. I
Speaker 1: was talking about like I love you know CCR. So
Speaker 1: when I was working in pop, there was this Butterfly
Speaker 1: Kisses on This sounds like nothing on the radio. Nothing.
Speaker 1: It's the there's a terrible song of some old man
Speaker 1: talking about giving this girl, and nobody wanted to play
Speaker 1: it because it sounded nothing like anything else and this song,
Speaker 1: but people kept buying it and kept buying it, and
Speaker 1: they had it was such an effect that radio stations
Speaker 1: had no other option but to freaking play Butterfly Kisses.
Speaker 1: And here's Butterfly Kisses by Bob Carlile And I called,
Speaker 1: you have to Butterfly Kisses something you gotta make the people,
Speaker 1: tell the people that are making the decisions how good
Speaker 1: it is. It's funny that you knew the song and
Speaker 1: it's kind of emotional, like I like it now. I again,
Speaker 1: come on, I'll give you a dollar if you know sings.
Speaker 1: You just said it. I didn't say it, didn't. I
Speaker 1: don't think that's it. Bob, Yeah, yeah, you said it,
Speaker 1: did I say, Bob Carlisle Shore she was sitting here
Speaker 1: from heaven and she's dead as little girl. You know,
Speaker 1: it's all like, what year did this come out? Have
Speaker 1: no idea, you don't know it. Nobody you know? Oh
Speaker 1: you want to another good one? And I'm just comparing
Speaker 1: this to your sound because again, nothing sounds like no, no,
Speaker 1: nothing sounds like you, and I love it. And that's
Speaker 1: why I think your music is fantastic. First of I
Speaker 1: like sonically, I like it, thank you, But I like
Speaker 1: it that it sounds like nothing else. And there's something
Speaker 1: to that, because everybody always tells me I suck, and
Speaker 1: it's just because I don't sound like and I kind
Speaker 1: of do suck, but it also sound like nobody else.
Speaker 1: And I've always been told that. I when I was
Speaker 1: doing sports radio, I wasn't good enough and sound enough
Speaker 1: to be sports guy. And I was doing pop radio.
Speaker 1: Your your too country, your accents too thick. I go
Speaker 1: over to country radio. It's like you don't wear a
Speaker 1: cowboy hat. We're in the world about. I have no
Speaker 1: where I can feel you. I'm too rock for country,
Speaker 1: too country for rock and roll. I feel you. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna play another song here, and this song was the
Speaker 1: song the same thing. Nobody wanted to play this song,
Speaker 1: and it just kept selling. Don't look at the screen.
Speaker 1: I like to surprise you because now you see I
Speaker 1: can't read it. I can't read it. Are you blind?
Speaker 1: I am kind of blind and also a bad angle
Speaker 1: this song, and it's such a hit. Now, nobody would
Speaker 1: play this song, and then all of a sudden people
Speaker 1: kept buying it and buying it, and slowly it would trickle.
Speaker 1: If you know the song, nobody, nobody will play it.
Speaker 1: And this was no annoyance. It sounded like at the time,
Speaker 1: it sound like nothing else in the radio. It was
Speaker 1: all boy bands and it was all really well. I mean,
Speaker 1: when you hear Miranda Labert now it sounds familiar to you.
Speaker 1: But back in the day people you just came out
Speaker 1: with Kerostene and people are like, what that? It's so angry? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like what is happening? You know? And now that's her trademark,
Speaker 1: and I think, you know, it's weird. I just read
Speaker 1: a book where they were talking about heya, the Outcast song.
Speaker 1: How is the same deal? People were like, what is this?
Speaker 1: We don't want to play it. They somehow got people
Speaker 1: to kind of sandwich it in between two familiar songs too,
Speaker 1: I guess, keep people from tuning out. And then it
Speaker 1: became one of the biggest It was a monster what
Speaker 1: are you reading? What you don't read? Outcast? Hey? Y'all?
Speaker 1: Like what it was called? It was called habit. It
Speaker 1: was actually about habits and and how what we're drawn
Speaker 1: to and how habits were created. What what do you
Speaker 1: learn from that book? Because I like to read. Um, Yeah,
Speaker 1: well I learned that. I learned it's interesting because people.
Speaker 1: This book talked about how people crave familiarity, but they
Speaker 1: also like surprised. So they don't want things that sound
Speaker 1: exactly the same. They want something that's catchy but sounds
Speaker 1: a little different to them, you know. And and so
Speaker 1: they might be resistant if something is too different and
Speaker 1: they haven't heard it, haven't been exposed to it enough.
Speaker 1: And I'm reading another book that's basically saying the exact
Speaker 1: same thing. So starting to catch on here. It's called
Speaker 1: hit Makers. It's about how anything a movie or song
Speaker 1: or anything now becomes a hit and why why they
Speaker 1: break through and how they catch on you feel? Are
Speaker 1: you a pretty cerebral person? Like? Are you an intellectual?
Speaker 1: I love to read. I love to read. Yes, I'm
Speaker 1: reading a book constantly. That's cool. No one ever comes
Speaker 1: in and says that most people are like I can't read,
Speaker 1: but I fairly got out of school. Let's let's keep
Speaker 1: that off here. So what's what's a day like for you?
Speaker 1: Because you're out and you just finished with Miranda, right,
Speaker 1: So you would go out on the weekends. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: a day on the road is you know, wake up
Speaker 1: kind of late, go to lunch, start getting ready for
Speaker 1: sound check, or maybe go visit a station during the
Speaker 1: day and then you know, do they do this somebody sidetracker? Second,
Speaker 1: every radio station you get to, are they like, I
Speaker 1: love it and we're going to play it, and then
Speaker 1: you leave and they never do um Yeah in a way, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's pretty like you know what, I think this is
Speaker 1: so different and it's really gonna cut through and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna add it. It's gonna they don't. They don't say hey,
Speaker 1: I mean some people did and then they did add it.
Speaker 1: I didn't have anybody say they were going to add
Speaker 1: it and then not add it. But when they add it,
Speaker 1: they really play it because you can add, not play
Speaker 1: totally give it a spend it one in the morning.
Speaker 1: It's like I was saying to you, I mean, my
Speaker 1: goal is to be exposed as much as possible, not
Speaker 1: necessarily to go to number one, even though that's a
Speaker 1: great way to be exposed. But I just want people
Speaker 1: to hear it, you know, whether it's whatever station it's on,
Speaker 1: and whatever. You know what I mean. I just want
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Speaker 1: This song is called Losing Ground just said song. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, I know it is already. I know all
Speaker 1: your long just that are angry beneath dirt fullingder me
Speaker 1: no where to go? Did you ever think about doing
Speaker 1: the and maybe you did first? I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know your your early early story, because again I
Speaker 1: was just introduced to you by finding your music on
Speaker 1: YouTube and going this is interesting. And then I then
Speaker 1: I went and I download on iTunes and I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: I'd like to I'm gonna keep nine of these songs.
Speaker 1: I remember, I was like, I'm gonna eat this one
Speaker 1: about like this one and this one and so like.
Speaker 1: So I don't know a lot of the back stuff.
Speaker 1: So did you ever think because Jacob Dylan would not
Speaker 1: say he was Bob Dylan's son forever? I tried to
Speaker 1: avoid it as much as possible. I would assume you
Speaker 1: would want to write and and your dad is a
Speaker 1: famous songwriter, but he's not known really outside of the
Speaker 1: Nashville bubble. First of all, did you ever feel like
Speaker 1: go on the easy route and go on, I'm Aubrey
Speaker 1: Walmac No way, okay, the opposite. Did you ever think
Speaker 1: about having a whole different name than sellers? No? I
Speaker 1: felt like no one would know. I mean, my dad
Speaker 1: did have a record deal, and some people know who
Speaker 1: he is from his music, but you know, not as
Speaker 1: much as his songwriting. And so really people don't people
Speaker 1: say my name? They have no idea. Then they a
Speaker 1: lot of people hear my voice and then they make
Speaker 1: the connection or they google and that's how they find out.
Speaker 1: Do you hear in your voice? Though? And your mom
Speaker 1: like you? Definitely? Because I see my sister and people
Speaker 1: are like you look just I don't think like anything alike.
Speaker 1: But everyone's like, you're just alike, and I'm like, well, like,
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't see it. And everyone says it,
Speaker 1: But you can hear your mom and your voice similar.
Speaker 1: I can hear even a little bit of my dad
Speaker 1: and some of his the way he sings. He's a
Speaker 1: good singer. But um, I think it's different. It's not
Speaker 1: exactly the same, but it's definitely similar. And the vocals vocally,
Speaker 1: that's the most similarity I have to anything music wise.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean when you walk into an
Speaker 1: interview is the first question always about your freaking mom.
Speaker 1: I love your mom, by the way, but I mean,
Speaker 1: as someone with it isn't always like, hey, so opera
Speaker 1: sellers here, so talk about your mom? You want to
Speaker 1: pull your hair out right? Well, you know, I mean
Speaker 1: it's like I get it. But people want to talk
Speaker 1: about what that's the story to them, you know, And
Speaker 1: I hope to hope that there's more of a story
Speaker 1: once they hear the music and here, that it's not
Speaker 1: the same. And that's kind of how I direct the
Speaker 1: conversation usually is yeah, you know, I'm proud of my mom,
Speaker 1: and I'm doing when someone goes there immediately, I'm so
Speaker 1: used to it. I'm used to it. But you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, I rebelled against music, not I always knew
Speaker 1: I wanted to do music, but I did a bunch
Speaker 1: of acting. I went to acting school. That was kind
Speaker 1: of my thing. Apart from my family. Nobody knew, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like nobody could. Yeah, I went
Speaker 1: to acting school Strasbourg in l a. Um, look at
Speaker 1: you and what do you want? Like what was the
Speaker 1: goal here? Like like film acting? And I'm actually have
Speaker 1: an agent now I'm just I've been auditioning again. Um,
Speaker 1: vampire parts, Yeah, exactly, I'm gonna be the new Twilight
Speaker 1: because they're already remaking it. If they make you or
Speaker 1: something like pink, you're gonna this is the whole acoustic
Speaker 1: guitar thing. You're not gonna allow it. Well, it's so
Speaker 1: interesting because I'm really introverted, and acting for me was
Speaker 1: I was less shy when acting because I don't have
Speaker 1: to be myself and it took me so long to
Speaker 1: get comfortable on stage as myself. Singing that was way
Speaker 1: way harder for me. And so you know, acting is
Speaker 1: like you're not being yourself. It's it's easier to do that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because it's it's really how
Speaker 1: I live my life as too microphones and I wrote
Speaker 1: a book, and I talked about I talked about that
Speaker 1: in my book. It's like, I'm terrible at real life
Speaker 1: any sort of real life communication. Terrible. But if you
Speaker 1: put a microphone in front of me, if it's the
Speaker 1: radio show, if I'm doing stand up comedy, or if
Speaker 1: I'm out with my band comedy band playing on the weekends,
Speaker 1: like I am the most fun person to be around
Speaker 1: while I'm on. When I'm not on, I got nothing
Speaker 1: to say. I am. I'm not. I don't make myself
Speaker 1: vulnerable at all. But when I'm on, like it's party time,
Speaker 1: right Mike. When I'm off, I got nothing. I'm scared
Speaker 1: to put myself out there a bit. Yeah. Do you
Speaker 1: feel the same way? Yeah, definitely, I think you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's interesting because I'm very introverted. But
Speaker 1: maybe you relate to this too. I feel like I
Speaker 1: want to connect with people and experience that connection, and
Speaker 1: so that's why I put myself out there with music
Speaker 1: and go on the road and things that normally are
Speaker 1: not a typical, like for an introvert to do get
Speaker 1: up and do stand up comedy? Are you kidding me? Like?
Speaker 1: Are you do you consider yourself introverted? Every every ounce
Speaker 1: of me until I'm introverted. Before I go on stage.
Speaker 1: What am I doing in the back in the back,
Speaker 1: slumping over like like and I love doing it? But
Speaker 1: I got no, I'm just not good with people. I'm
Speaker 1: really I'm I'm not good with people until it's time
Speaker 1: to be good with people and I can turn on this.
Speaker 1: I feel you. It's part of me, that's me, but
Speaker 1: it's it's a part where it doesn't it's the absolute truth,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't feel real, if that makes sense, Like
Speaker 1: it I'm not being somebody that I'm not, but I
Speaker 1: don't feel like I'm vulnerable because I'm behind this. Hey
Speaker 1: it's look, it's Bobby bones of my real freaking name. Well,
Speaker 1: you're not having to reveal every part of you. You're
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, so pretty much the old stroke. It's
Speaker 1: all out there right even then sometimes it good dicey.
Speaker 1: So you're you could say you're an introverted person. Yes,
Speaker 1: but it's like I said, I mean, why would why
Speaker 1: are we in this business? Because here's why we're in
Speaker 1: the business. This is my my opinion. We all have something.
Speaker 1: You spending time with therapy because I have Oh boy,
Speaker 1: I bought my therapy as a car for sure. One year.
Speaker 1: I feel like we're in this business because there's something,
Speaker 1: there's something that's missing in us, and we are looking
Speaker 1: to find it through this group of people, some sort
Speaker 1: of support for me. I think it was I need
Speaker 1: to feel love from something. I'm not allowing it from
Speaker 1: anyone close to me because I'm just messed up. I
Speaker 1: never got it as a kid, and so I searched
Speaker 1: for it from people that I don't know. So I
Speaker 1: go out on stage and if they laugh, I feel loved.
Speaker 1: If they clap and they cheer, I feel like that's
Speaker 1: some And I get this and I love it while
Speaker 1: I'm on stage, or I love it when I'm behind
Speaker 1: a microphone. Then you go back to the hotel room
Speaker 1: of the house and it's just like you know, it feels.
Speaker 1: So that's what I was saying earlier is I craved
Speaker 1: the connection. That's why That's why I want my music
Speaker 1: to reach people. That's why I want to I like
Speaker 1: songs are so sad and angry it all so I
Speaker 1: I connected with acting. It was a way to express
Speaker 1: different emotions in different characters and different you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like a way to connect with people that you're
Speaker 1: not getting it. Maybe in your in your normal introverted life.
Speaker 1: How do you do Because I have a girlfriend, we've
Speaker 1: been together for at this point for nine months or so,
Speaker 1: are you talking about your personal life? I have no idea.
Speaker 1: Do you mean whatever? Are you are? You have a boyfriend?
Speaker 1: And are you good at that? Yeah? I mean we
Speaker 1: get along really well. He's pretty introverted. He plays music
Speaker 1: with me, he plays in my bands. Oh my goodness,
Speaker 1: we're together. Oh my god. I don't even know how
Speaker 1: we get along really well? We do. Um, he's not
Speaker 1: as introverted as I am, but I think he totally
Speaker 1: gets it. Let me ask you this question though, because
Speaker 1: I don't even care who he is or what. But
Speaker 1: yours boss? Yes, your your boyfriend's boss. That's an interesting dynamic.
Speaker 1: It's funny too, because I've been writing with them for
Speaker 1: the first time recently. We've just been you know, I
Speaker 1: really he's amazing, amazing guitar player, songwriter, really talented, one
Speaker 1: of those super super creative people. You know. He just
Speaker 1: focuses on making creating the music constantly, and he's my
Speaker 1: band leader and I really respect his opinion. But there's
Speaker 1: definitely times where I have to be the boss, but
Speaker 1: you also pay him right and go, hey, it's time
Speaker 1: for a race. Not wow, he I mean, I'll tell
Speaker 1: you he's probably like the chilliest, most easygoing person I've
Speaker 1: ever known, so it makes it really easy. Are you
Speaker 1: a ty personality? I don't know. It's weird because I
Speaker 1: like he's a super relaxed to where he's like late
Speaker 1: to everything, and I'm the opposite. As you know, I've
Speaker 1: showed up early, like I'm always like I'm like want
Speaker 1: to be there. I get anxious if I'm not there,
Speaker 1: but I'm not necessarily like to me, Okay, making plans
Speaker 1: I like makes me want to throw up. Like I'm
Speaker 1: not a plank, but I'm a type of where I'm
Speaker 1: going to be the leader with the ship may go down,
Speaker 1: but I'm going to captain this thing and we're gonna
Speaker 1: crash into iceberg or we're gonna win the race, but
Speaker 1: I'm going to be the captain. It's funny because yeah,
Speaker 1: I think if you ask anyone that I work with,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm like, I guess if that's what a type
Speaker 1: A is, then yes, because I am so detail oriented.
Speaker 1: So you know, let's do this let's do this paying
Speaker 1: attention to everything, you know what I mean, whether it's
Speaker 1: creative or business or anything. I'm like, in there, can
Speaker 1: you separate with him and go, okay, music off? I
Speaker 1: think it's such okay. He grew up like his parents
Speaker 1: played bluegrass, so he grew up around music. So we
Speaker 1: have a similar background that way too, And I think
Speaker 1: that it's just so ingrained in us. It's not really
Speaker 1: something that you turn off necessarily. But we don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: We don't have a problem with it. I mean it's
Speaker 1: it works out pretty well. What do you listen to? Like,
Speaker 1: you know, I was just looking at my list of
Speaker 1: the last three songs, like I have the ed Shear
Speaker 1: and I didn't I think I kept I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you this, I didn't keep as many Ed Shearing songs
Speaker 1: as I did your record. And I love the Adhering
Speaker 1: now and I think he's got some fantastic stuff. I
Speaker 1: think he try. He tries to do like seventh thinking
Speaker 1: out louds though on that record, and I'm like, dude,
Speaker 1: get over it. Like I love Edge Hearing, I love it,
Speaker 1: but I'm like, how many times you can try? Thinking
Speaker 1: allowed in this records? I mean every song. I was like,
Speaker 1: when youre su next door and I'm like, dude, So
Speaker 1: that record is one of the last ones that I've
Speaker 1: really played a lot. Um my girlfriend, but out of record,
Speaker 1: that's really good this weekend. So I listened to that
Speaker 1: a lot, and I like a bunch of hip hop stuff.
Speaker 1: Because I work out. I don't work at the country.
Speaker 1: I can't get the county music. Yeah, that would be awful.
Speaker 1: I can't. I just there's only maybe like some Keith
Speaker 1: there been where the Black Tops, because there's only our brothers,
Speaker 1: Osborne and my fault. Like that's about it inside my word.
Speaker 1: So what do you listen to for fun? Right now?
Speaker 1: It's so funny because I'm really boring because I listened
Speaker 1: to the same things over and over and over again,
Speaker 1: and but nothing new excites you when it comes out,
Speaker 1: Like I love the new John Mayer stuff. Him and
Speaker 1: Garth my favorite all time life artists. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think of the newest album that I've downloaded. Okay, the
Speaker 1: last album that I heard and I was like, holy crap,
Speaker 1: this is just cool and I never heard anything like
Speaker 1: it was the new Tam and Paula. The newest Tam
Speaker 1: and Paula record, You're way too cool. I don't have
Speaker 1: to spell that. I don't even know what words you're saying.
Speaker 1: I'm must sare it that way? Tame Paula Tame Okay, wait, no,
Speaker 1: you gotta let me pick this song. Holy cow, there's
Speaker 1: ninety five million listens to one of these things. Play
Speaker 1: that first one, hold on minute, The less I know,
Speaker 1: the better. Tame and Paula. Okay, they're very cool looking
Speaker 1: like they having a showers in about six days kind
Speaker 1: of restaurant there. It's like the ruvious stuff. Ever, I
Speaker 1: should go skating to this. And there's the lead singer
Speaker 1: female male male. Where are these people from? I've never
Speaker 1: ever heard anything's Australian, but I'm making that up. I think, oh, yes, wow,
Speaker 1: you're so cool. This is Look how many plays it
Speaker 1: has and not the only person who knows this no its,
Speaker 1: I can look at them million of the other plays
Speaker 1: or what Aubredy sellers. Listen to the related artists here.
Speaker 1: Related artists to Tame and Paula Pond never heard of him?
Speaker 1: Unknown Mortal Orchestra. I've heard of them, you have they
Speaker 1: have to be terrible. After listen I've not listened to them. Really, Okay,
Speaker 1: here we go, let's listen to it. This is uh
Speaker 1: so good at being in trouble. It's something exactly like
Speaker 1: Tam and Paul singer. Wait. I do know that somebody
Speaker 1: in this band is either in Tam and Paul or
Speaker 1: in another band. That's the only thing I think. You're
Speaker 1: just You're just cool and no, no, that's not always
Speaker 1: a compliment and would be like, hey, you're real cool,
Speaker 1: like cool can hurt you a little bit? Because, like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this, did the last songs after that's
Speaker 1: download this Michelle Branch hopeless romantic? Like I love Michelle Branch.
Speaker 1: She did this with one of the Black Keys and
Speaker 1: he produced it. She lives here now and they live
Speaker 1: here and he is there dated. I didn't know that cool.
Speaker 1: That's cool, right, But it's also Michelle Branch who was
Speaker 1: like pop radio queen, so like I was a fan already,
Speaker 1: But that sounds like, um, rotten apolo? What do you
Speaker 1: call about that? Rotten Paula? How about this is another song?
Speaker 1: This is it's my girlfriend's song. She just puts that
Speaker 1: waiting on you And this is cool because it's kind
Speaker 1: of bluesy too. Let's hear it. And you know this
Speaker 1: is not normal country like, but this new love thing
Speaker 1: man not kiss the soul dancing you and she's gonna
Speaker 1: get a bit with you. Got like that sounds like everything.
Speaker 1: That's a good thing. But she's like, screw it. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna put out what I want to put it out. Well,
Speaker 1: this is going baby, I can't see every time you
Speaker 1: leave me, I just want you to see. It's you know,
Speaker 1: it's so mad at radio and I've been radio. I
Speaker 1: literally have the biggest country morning tooin the history of
Speaker 1: country morning shows. And I get so mad at radio.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't be getting mad at terio. I get so mad.
Speaker 1: And then here I'm gonna pay you good at Sharon song.
Speaker 1: That's cool. Yeah, she's cool. I like, I want to
Speaker 1: hear I want to hear the wait she just put
Speaker 1: on EP right on Friday. Right, Yeah, it's uh yeah,
Speaker 1: it's I mean, it's mediocre. You know you're you're probably
Speaker 1: it's no um Tampa Paula, Tampa, Paula, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: This is a jamp about here and here it's called
Speaker 1: what do I know? Ain't got a soap stand up
Speaker 1: gave me stage concern you like a man? Yeah, not really.
Speaker 1: Most of them like at your and go. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I know I've listened. I mean, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: listen to regularly. Christ Now I'll painted picture, let me
Speaker 1: say the scene and when I have children? Do you
Speaker 1: have anything that you like? Because for me, because there's
Speaker 1: a song about to play him and I don't wanna
Speaker 1: tell you who it is. I don't like my screenka.
Speaker 1: I don't like a screen because I love the blues. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love the blues. And I heard this song and
Speaker 1: I was like, geez, this song is so good and
Speaker 1: I'm like, listen to the pain right here? Have you
Speaker 1: ever heard this song? You know a new This is
Speaker 1: John Mayr. It's not John Mayr. It does sound John Mayer.
Speaker 1: Do you think about me? You can hear the pain
Speaker 1: right there? Right? Can you name? Let me hear a
Speaker 1: little one? Yeah? Do you feel the same thing I didn't? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Do you remember how Justin Bieber basically Sean Mindez, he's
Speaker 1: like twelve me. It sounded like one of those guys,
Speaker 1: but he plays guitar like he's a real life artist,
Speaker 1: like that really makes music. But he started on Vine
Speaker 1: and it's so young. He doesn't get that respect because
Speaker 1: they put up Did he start on vine? Yeah he's
Speaker 1: vine this six second vine kid Fine. I loved it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was too quick for me. It was too like
Speaker 1: I like Snapchat. I don't like instant stories as much
Speaker 1: to do snapchat stories and stories are too long for me. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: Although it's an annoying because all your instagrams that I've
Speaker 1: seen are black and white. Do you do all black
Speaker 1: and white all time? Not all the time? Most of
Speaker 1: the time, I don't think I've seen any color. Like
Speaker 1: that's got to be annoying, right, I have to live
Speaker 1: like you. They have to live this black and white lifestyle.
Speaker 1: That's well, that's what I'm saying though, And it's the
Speaker 1: same thing as my clothes, like most of the time.
Speaker 1: That's just what I like. Yeah, I've only have a
Speaker 1: nice personality. Well you can beat black and white and nice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this was good. I like this that you did because
Speaker 1: I love cold Play and you guys got into a van.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of you and you did green Eyes.
Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite cold Play songs. I think
Speaker 1: it was from a Russian Blood to Day. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: record played this on my show. I thought it was
Speaker 1: so good. You're welcome so much, and the video wasn't
Speaker 1: black and white, believe it or not. That was good
Speaker 1: because I love colfora You never seen them live, no,
Speaker 1: Oh my good, change your lives I have. You know,
Speaker 1: they're one of the few bands I have every single record.
Speaker 1: I know every song. I'm obsessed and I've never seen them.
Speaker 1: They are so good. I can't wait. I'm going to
Speaker 1: see them. And it was at some point when they
Speaker 1: came out. Cold Play came out and they were like
Speaker 1: life changing, and then it turned into if you like Coldplay,
Speaker 1: suck because they're lame. And now they're cool again. It's
Speaker 1: been a weird thing. It's hard for artists about so
Speaker 1: annoyed when people are weird about cold Play because they're
Speaker 1: not cool or whatever. I'm like, they're good, get over it.
Speaker 1: Yeah they're fantastic. I Loveday, but also love sad songs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love sad songs and also love melodies. And he's
Speaker 1: like King of melody and he's you know, met him,
Speaker 1: sitting him. He's such a weirdo, and it makes in
Speaker 1: the weirdest. People are creative. People have to be different
Speaker 1: to be creative. So they're also different in person, and
Speaker 1: he's one of the weirdest humans, but he's it's just fantastic.
Speaker 1: I love cold Play. Man, Um, who do you in town?
Speaker 1: Who are your friends that I would know? L can't interesting?
Speaker 1: Like who would you call that I would know just
Speaker 1: from like no, not maybe not even personally, but like
Speaker 1: that we who's your closest friend that had this an
Speaker 1: artist that has a deal. This is difficult because I'll
Speaker 1: have friends either. So I mean I have all my
Speaker 1: close close friends. I was born in Aashville, so all
Speaker 1: my close close friends are just people I went to
Speaker 1: school with when I was eleven. Did you grow up?
Speaker 1: Were any of those kids? These Nashville kids are any
Speaker 1: of them like making it now? All doing different things?
Speaker 1: So I had a friend who now is in l
Speaker 1: A and she's like a super successful dancer. She's Jason
Speaker 1: Drula right now stationed Drulo's backup dancer. She used to
Speaker 1: be Christ's. Yeah, she's doing that. I don't have I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm trying to think of somebody I know
Speaker 1: that does music that was you know. I don't think
Speaker 1: I don't any one that's doing music, but a few
Speaker 1: people like that, who are doing some cool things. What's
Speaker 1: it like being a kid in Nashville? Whenever you have
Speaker 1: a famous parent? That does that suck? You know? I
Speaker 1: was homeschooled more than I went to school, so that
Speaker 1: explains a lot of this. It's interesting when I went
Speaker 1: to school, that's so mean. My favorite she just kept going.
Speaker 1: So I when I went to school for the first time,
Speaker 1: well for the first time, as like a you know,
Speaker 1: not a preschooler. Um. I try to hide who my
Speaker 1: mom was, Like I wouldn't let her like drop me
Speaker 1: off or come inside anywhere. And then somebody saw her
Speaker 1: picking me up one day a mom and told her daughter,
Speaker 1: and then everyone knew. And then it was like I
Speaker 1: was so upset, like I didn't want anyone to know.
Speaker 1: I was going to keep it a secret as long
Speaker 1: as seemingly possible. Was it because you're the normal kid
Speaker 1: who just embarrassed their parents or you just wanted your
Speaker 1: own identity? Yeah? I think I wanted my own identity.
Speaker 1: And it's like you're saying, it's like everywhere you go
Speaker 1: then people are just like, wow, that's so cool, and
Speaker 1: that's all they want to talk about. And it's like, jeez,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, especially as a kid, You're like,
Speaker 1: I just want to live my life. I feel bad
Speaker 1: for my son and I don't even have any kids yet,
Speaker 1: but when I do. Oh can you imagine, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: talking about me all the time? Oh no, here, this
Speaker 1: is the song now unless the podcast left for years
Speaker 1: and years, so this five years from now? Who knows,
Speaker 1: but this song, Liar Liar is the one that is
Speaker 1: going to radio. Now do you feel good about this?
Speaker 1: How do you feel about it? Like? Really, how do
Speaker 1: you feel about going on the radio? Speak from the heart?
Speaker 1: I mean, I think my opinion on this song is
Speaker 1: this is the song that I get the most people
Speaker 1: coming to me it shows and saying that they relate
Speaker 1: to it. And that's all I have to say about it.
Speaker 1: And I think that it's a relatable thing that lots
Speaker 1: of people experience and hopefully they'll connect with that if
Speaker 1: they even get the chance to hear it. And that
Speaker 1: could be an issue, but you know, it's just it's
Speaker 1: why doing the like you did could play. It's why
Speaker 1: doing those songs matter. A lot of artists don't want
Speaker 1: to do covers because they're like, this is my this
Speaker 1: is just me theory, This is not your theory. This
Speaker 1: is me theory. It's like they're like, I don't want
Speaker 1: to covers because I have my own music, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's great, and if that's really how you feel, fantastic,
Speaker 1: stick to it. Bobby theory is do a cover that
Speaker 1: makes everybody go look at it, and then you know
Speaker 1: what else they might see is the stuff that you're
Speaker 1: struggling to get out there. And then once you have
Speaker 1: four or five, six, seven hits, you have new covers anymore.
Speaker 1: You're good. I crave doing covers, honestly, songs that I've
Speaker 1: loved or I or I hear it may not even
Speaker 1: be a song that I listened to all the time,
Speaker 1: but I hear it and I just immediately hear a
Speaker 1: way that I would want to do it, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And I think it's a great way
Speaker 1: to I think it's also a great way to let
Speaker 1: people know where you came from, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: and what you listen to and what inspired you, and
Speaker 1: and and also show how you can take a song
Speaker 1: and make it your own. And I think that shows
Speaker 1: a little bit, a little bit about who you are
Speaker 1: as an artist. You know. So we're gonna get into
Speaker 1: any tame and Paula um tam and Paula songs came
Speaker 1: and Paula songs are all about seven minutes long and
Speaker 1: but have about a thousand words. And I am terrible
Speaker 1: at remembering lyrics. So probably not when you opened, because
Speaker 1: you're you? Are you the first act on the Miranda tour?
Speaker 1: Were you already just finished? Who's on the tour? Was
Speaker 1: you met Old Dominion and Miranda? Okay, so you go
Speaker 1: out as the first act. It's awesome and frustrating one.
Speaker 1: You're on the Mirando tour. That's awesome, she's a list. Yes,
Speaker 1: you're the first act. Let people are like shuffling into
Speaker 1: their seats or do they know your music? And so
Speaker 1: it's gotta be harder to even get their attention right
Speaker 1: when you're the first act. Up. I felt on this
Speaker 1: tour and you know this is the thing to First
Speaker 1: of all, the music doesn't identically match anyone, but I
Speaker 1: think as far as a mainstream country tour, that's the
Speaker 1: best one I could get. I mean, they want they're
Speaker 1: coming to see a woman who plays electric guitar and
Speaker 1: sing songs from her heart, and that's also what I do.
Speaker 1: Even though it's a you know, it's a different and
Speaker 1: the they she had a pit in the front, which
Speaker 1: made it a lot more familiar to me because I'm
Speaker 1: used to playing rock clubs and so I've got people
Speaker 1: right up on the stage and the pit was always full,
Speaker 1: and the room was always pretty full, and it felt
Speaker 1: like it felt like people were listening, and you know,
Speaker 1: you've always got those nights where you've got people are
Speaker 1: kind of like you know, and you just gotta work
Speaker 1: through it. But I think almost, I mean, I would
Speaker 1: say ninety pc of the shows were amazing. It was awesome.
Speaker 1: How did um did you? Because the thing about people people,
Speaker 1: you know, you're on towards somebody and sometimes you don't
Speaker 1: even really spend any time with the other people on
Speaker 1: tour because everybody's kind of split up and your sound
Speaker 1: checking at different times and they're coming in while you're
Speaker 1: going out. Did you spend any real time with her? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean the problem with this tour was it was
Speaker 1: pretty short and in comparison to some long, longer tours
Speaker 1: that take a year or you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So yes, and I've known Miranda for a long time too,
Speaker 1: so I forget your step and produced the records. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what does she tell you. It's funny because I remember
Speaker 1: telling her about my record before it came out, and she,
Speaker 1: you know, I said, what's really different? That's all I've
Speaker 1: told her, and you know, and I said, I don't
Speaker 1: know how people are going to react, and she just said,
Speaker 1: you know what, it's kind of like same for me, basically,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. When she came out, same deal.
Speaker 1: It's like not doesn't sound like anything else. You have
Speaker 1: no idea, And she basically said, stick to your guns
Speaker 1: and those you know, like I said, those are the
Speaker 1: artists I respect, and she listens, you know, Steve row
Speaker 1: and some of those artists that I love too. So
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, to watch her every night
Speaker 1: doing that and now playing arenas when I've seen her
Speaker 1: play you know, little places in Texas. But that's who
Speaker 1: plays arenas. People that do something different and make it pop,
Speaker 1: like look at arena acts. Those are the people that
Speaker 1: change the culture of whatever it is. That's what I
Speaker 1: say about having a long lasting career versus you can
Speaker 1: have five number one songs and and you spend your
Speaker 1: life opening for other artists and haven't built any hard
Speaker 1: ticket sales. Up and then nobody really there's no identity,
Speaker 1: there's no base for you, you you know, and then you've
Speaker 1: you've been You're reliant on radio singles to keep your
Speaker 1: career going, and once that's gone, you don't have anything,
Speaker 1: you know, and that's that would be my worst fear,
Speaker 1: you know. And I'm sure somebody who's having a ton
Speaker 1: of success right now and five number one songs doesn't
Speaker 1: care about any of that. But there are artists that
Speaker 1: I can and I won't to say the name, and
Speaker 1: I like about three of them that have many number
Speaker 1: ones and they can't get recognized walking on the street
Speaker 1: because people don't care about they just the songs are good,
Speaker 1: but there's only nothing of to them, and so you know,
Speaker 1: and they live a night but they're you know, they're like,
Speaker 1: what can I do? What do I know? I'm a
Speaker 1: freaking radio DJ. But you know, you're right. And then man,
Speaker 1: I tell you, Eric Church just they listen to his
Speaker 1: album cuts. You ever been an Eric Church show? I've
Speaker 1: not seen him, and I can't even say that I'm
Speaker 1: a huge Eric Church fan. I like his songs, but
Speaker 1: they're because Eric Church fans are so die hard that
Speaker 1: if you call yourself. One. You need to be like
Speaker 1: an Eric Church fan, like you better punch somebody in
Speaker 1: the face. Yea if they insult your dude. But like
Speaker 1: that's the dude. Like who when he goes to place
Speaker 1: three hours and he's playing album cuts, the crossing in
Speaker 1: every album. What I'm saying, Man, that's the stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the stuff. Same with Randa, she's playing songs that
Speaker 1: maybe literally I get somebody like a radio person might
Speaker 1: call it a failure, you know, but then you've got
Speaker 1: the entire audience singing along like you're saying every word,
Speaker 1: and you're like, what's what's the where's the failure? Like
Speaker 1: you know people connected with it. It's like Tam and Paula,
Speaker 1: like I just can't get enough of that, you know, Sam,
Speaker 1: that's not something you listened to. It Mike listen is
Speaker 1: to punk and this stuff this time he does do
Speaker 1: is terrible. He listens to the worst music. It all
Speaker 1: sounds like the guy's holding his nose and he's thirty
Speaker 1: four and he's whining about being grounded, like that's every
Speaker 1: song that it's always like my mom won't let me go?
Speaker 1: Are Like, dude, you're thirty years old, Like mean him
Speaker 1: out of the basement, but but he loves that stuff. God.
Speaker 1: Oh it is total crap and like spit on each other.
Speaker 1: Concerts right blasted super loud. We went, Where did my
Speaker 1: ears hurt? Oh? We went. We went to UM. It
Speaker 1: was Melissa Etheridge and my girlfriend and Cam and Orionthy.
Speaker 1: Do you know Orion's plays guitar. Yes, crazy guitar player.
Speaker 1: And it was so loud. I was miserable the whole show.
Speaker 1: It was just it was like my ears were hurting.
Speaker 1: I couldn't enjoy it. It was not It was just
Speaker 1: not fun. Why because it was so loud and we
Speaker 1: were setting out front at a table and it was
Speaker 1: miserable for me. Right, and I love this Ethers you know,
Speaker 1: come to my window. I was like, I know all
Speaker 1: the words, but I couldn't get it because it's just
Speaker 1: like painful on my head. And so I look over
Speaker 1: my d is just like smiling in heaven, just loving it.
Speaker 1: And he was like, dude, all I need somebody to
Speaker 1: spit on me. And what's every man, Mike ever heard
Speaker 1: of them? What? Laato? What? You have a feather? A
Speaker 1: feather for? What? For aesthetic value? Because yeah, has no
Speaker 1: real meaning? No, I mean, so my first tattoos behind
Speaker 1: my ear it's a sparrow, which is a song bird.
Speaker 1: And then I just have always felt I guess a
Speaker 1: connection with birds, isn't that unique and cool? Like a crow? Exactly? Oh,
Speaker 1: and that's why I got it. It's not really I
Speaker 1: just liked it. I'm root for you, Aubrey. I know,
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means in the grand scheme
Speaker 1: of things, but like, I'm rooted for you because I
Speaker 1: not only do I enjoy your music, I enjoy how
Speaker 1: you do your music. Thank you. And it's just like
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do it how I do it, and
Speaker 1: if it works, great, and who doesn't keep doing now
Speaker 1: I do it. That's just it and I can respect
Speaker 1: that because man if I failed, I have failed a
Speaker 1: lot just trying to do it how I do it,
Speaker 1: and then eventually it catches, and it's gonna catch for you.
Speaker 1: You're you're too good for it not to catch. It's
Speaker 1: just when are people going to catch up to you?
Speaker 1: That's how I feel. I can't see the future, but
Speaker 1: all I know is if you keep writing songs from
Speaker 1: your heart, somebody will hear it. And I can see
Speaker 1: the future. I can. And so eventually people are going
Speaker 1: to catch up to what you're doing. And who knows
Speaker 1: where it'll be, but eventually people are gonna cat chop.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be like day I remember, listen Bob in
Speaker 1: that podcast who was right? It's called just to Be
Speaker 1: with You. I encourage you to download Aubrey and you know,
Speaker 1: listen to her music. Give it a shot. If you
Speaker 1: don't like it, delete a song as like I did
Speaker 1: five of them. Oh my god, No, don't tell people that,
Speaker 1: but listen. You write from your heart. I speak from
Speaker 1: my heart. What if they have never heard this and
Speaker 1: they do download seven or eight of the song, that
Speaker 1: would be it's better. Yes, if you listen to one song,
Speaker 1: I'm happy, okay, Yeah, even if you delete. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: don't encourage it. No, I'm just saying, give everything a shot,
Speaker 1: and if you like it, that's a win. Yes, it's
Speaker 1: definitely a win. You write from your heart. I Speak
Speaker 1: to my heart. Um and and liar. I don't know
Speaker 1: if any radio people are listening to this, I would
Speaker 1: assume they do it. They all say they don't. They
Speaker 1: listen everything, and then they all talk trash. They talk
Speaker 1: trash about me. It's a whole thing. It's terrible, probably
Speaker 1: because they want to go I hate radio people. That
Speaker 1: probably why, and they're like, wow, I sure love you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know right. It's hard to expect to be loved
Speaker 1: by people I like. I love radio, but sometimes I
Speaker 1: feel like it holds itself back in our format. I
Speaker 1: feel like hold its own back down a bit to change. Um. So, hey,
Speaker 1: I played a liar, liar if I were out there
Speaker 1: and you're listening right now, that's all I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: I'm glad you came in. It's cool to finally made you.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much your Instagram. I thought I wasn't
Speaker 1: too boring, just kind of not not. I just play
Speaker 1: feel good about everything. Yeah, okay, so about your mom?
Speaker 1: An just about your mom? Like I too? Yeah? Like whatever?
Speaker 1: U episode is my episode forty six. You can follow
Speaker 1: Aubrey at Aubrey Sellers a U B R I E
Speaker 1: S E L L E R S Aubrey Sellers. I
Speaker 1: respect how you make your music. I like your music,
Speaker 1: and just keep you will I'll tell you this, but
Speaker 1: just keep doing you. Man. You eventually you catch us up.
Speaker 1: Thank you. It means something. It really means something to
Speaker 1: me that you believe in honestly when when you take
Speaker 1: me for you know the thing this year, I was
Speaker 1: just like, even if it's just this guy, even if
Speaker 1: it's just Billy Jones, Yes, just the biggest DJ, even
Speaker 1: if it's you know, but no, keep on keeping on
Speaker 1: and if you ever need anything, Hey, I'll let you
Speaker 1: cut to my house. I'll thank you. Now. I guess
Speaker 1: we let a lot more people. Yeah, I was like,
Speaker 1: what we've done. We've probably had thirty people over right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and yeah, the only people I enjoyed. Anybody didn't enjoy.
Speaker 1: I think about there's anybody that's left, we have to
Speaker 1: their name? Are you going to say that when you know?
Speaker 1: But you know what I like, because now that's what happened.
Speaker 1: People come and I have no idea about them, right,
Speaker 1: some of them leave, and because most of them I've met.
Speaker 1: I try to stay out of circle, out of the
Speaker 1: Nashville circle, because then I like to be objective and
Speaker 1: I like to if something sucks, I'm just cool. It's
Speaker 1: have nothing to do it, and I'd like to have to,
Speaker 1: you know, link off people who I don't want to do.
Speaker 1: So I don't know a lot of cool people. But
Speaker 1: I didn't know Brandon from Lanco at all. And he
Speaker 1: came in and we talked and I was like, I
Speaker 1: did not expect that from that dude. That was I
Speaker 1: liked him a lot. I didn't coming in. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm probably not gonna like this dude. He's too pretty.
Speaker 1: I was jealous. It was just my insecurity. As my insecurity,
Speaker 1: let't be honestly, is my insecurity is like, this guy's
Speaker 1: gonna come in. I really liked him. Michael's anybody that
Speaker 1: came in there, we were just like, he kind of sucked.
Speaker 1: I don't think I can't either. I really love Natalie
Speaker 1: him Be because she came in and do you know
Speaker 1: her all? Yes? Yeah, I liked her a lot. She's awesome. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean I was kind of nervous. I was like,
Speaker 1: come in here, yeah, why because like it's like an hour.
Speaker 1: You know who came in that that was cool? This
Speaker 1: guy I haven't book John Oates from Hall and Oates.
Speaker 1: You had him in that school like last two weeks ago,
Speaker 1: rocking Hall of Fame. Nice. He had so much money
Speaker 1: and he like he had an airplane and stuff, and
Speaker 1: he ended up want all his money on like five bucks.
Speaker 1: That's the goal to get so rich. And then here's
Speaker 1: the goal. I'm gonna give a new goal. I want
Speaker 1: you to get so rich that you when you lose
Speaker 1: it all, it's a new story. That's how you know
Speaker 1: you made it. That when you're so rich that whenever
Speaker 1: you lose all of your money, it's a news story.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, did you get it back? Because you
Speaker 1: have whatever talent you have, they got you there. But
Speaker 1: the fact that you lost all your money, that's a
Speaker 1: new story. That means you made it. That sounds stressful.
Speaker 1: I don't know about that, all right, You give your
Speaker 1: band leader a raise and finding if I ever make
Speaker 1: any money in the first place, if we got to
Speaker 1: get there. People don't realize a lot of new artists,
Speaker 1: if not most are all of them lose money for
Speaker 1: a long time because you gotta story, costs money to
Speaker 1: travel and pay band members, and you're not getting paid
Speaker 1: very much. True, it is true. Yeah, it's a grind. Okay,
Speaker 1: Albredy sellers, thanks for coming to hanging out, Thank you
Speaker 1: so much. And then after you get a couple of hits,
Speaker 1: we'll bring you back and talking about how man the
Speaker 1: good old days when we used talking about just grinding
Speaker 1: and out. I have to up. Forty six is over.
Speaker 1: We'll see you next time here, Mike Yea. We good.
Speaker 1: We're good. Do you have anything? Are you good? We're good. Okay,
Speaker 1: We're good. Good,