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Speaker 1: I welcome to episode forty six of the Bobby Cast

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Speaker 1: and with Aubrey Sellers. However, this is weird. It's the

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Speaker 1: first time we met, but I feel like we know

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Speaker 1: each other because I follow you on everything. And I

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Speaker 1: guess the reason that I really like you is because

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Speaker 1: your music was so different, and that's what kind of

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Speaker 1: was like. I was like, Wow, do I like her?

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Speaker 1: And then I do this thing at the beginning of

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Speaker 1: the year where I picked five artists that I just

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Speaker 1: love and it's called the Class and it's like I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna follow them and I'm gonna see what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna promote them whenever the thing, and you were

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Speaker 1: one of the five that I was like, holy cow,

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Speaker 1: this is really cool. Thank you so much. That was

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Speaker 1: like big, huge surprise for me. And the reason is

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Speaker 1: and also want to run a couple of Aubrey Sellers

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Speaker 1: urban myths and see if they're true or not. But

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Speaker 1: the reason was because your album is just so different.

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Speaker 1: And what I thought was cool about your album was

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Speaker 1: it just feels like this is something that and here

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Speaker 1: I'll just play something. I'll play sitting here and cry

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Speaker 1: for a second while I talk about it. It feels

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Speaker 1: like that's not your record. Hold, we have too many buttons.

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Speaker 1: We're just in my house here, right. It was like this,

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Speaker 1: this record is so different that you knew. I just

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Speaker 1: me assuming that it was just either going to be

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Speaker 1: so different that you wanted to do it. It It didn't matter, right.

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Speaker 1: The truth to that, yes, there's truth to that. I think,

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Speaker 1: you know. My opinion is when something is different, it

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Speaker 1: takes people a while to get familiar with It's it's

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Speaker 1: if it's fresh to your ears. You know, it's not

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Speaker 1: not Everyone might not immediately pick up on it. And

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Speaker 1: I think some people will need to hear it or

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Speaker 1: be exposed to it multiple times before they get it.

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Speaker 1: And some people get it right away because they came

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Speaker 1: from the same you know, stock that I did and

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Speaker 1: was thinking about this earlier too. It's just like it,

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Speaker 1: it just doesn't matter. I'm going to do my thing.

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Speaker 1: It's just the kind of music I make. You know,

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Speaker 1: what I mean, and and I think it has potential

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Speaker 1: here's what I heard. So I hear, I hear that

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Speaker 1: be completely true. This isn't on a note that I have.

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Speaker 1: These notes are just normal stuff I don't even need.

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Speaker 1: But the what I heard was that you go into

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Speaker 1: no acoustic guitars on. Is that right? Not one? Not one?

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Speaker 1: And that that was kind of a fight where they

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Speaker 1: were like, hey, maybe you should add some acoustic guitars,

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Speaker 1: and you were like, I am not putting again a

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm I'm a very all or nothing person,

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Speaker 1: something that was representative of what I love. And I

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Speaker 1: considered to be country songs, but I've been really inspired

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Speaker 1: by Led Zeppelin and CCR and a bunch of as

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Speaker 1: far as sonically, the way those records sound. And so

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Speaker 1: when I went in to make this record, uh, you

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Speaker 1: Production wise, we're all electric and they had these you know,

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Speaker 1: just said, look, we're just gonna do it. We're just

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Speaker 1: But okay, I assume you didn't pay for the record though, right,

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Speaker 1: And so if you're not paying for the record, it's

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Speaker 1: So that is how we made it. And he won

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Speaker 1: and helped foster that. And that's why I love Frank

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Speaker 1: Then you're in and you get to do your own thing,

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Speaker 1: but you don't have somebody like a big record label going, hey,

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Speaker 1: we were involved too, and we're investing in this actual project.

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Speaker 1: But you got to make what you want and I

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Speaker 1: I just feel like that's what you do. You just

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Speaker 1: That's why you know I'm out here doing this. I

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Speaker 1: I think you have to. I think that my favorite

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Speaker 1: in this world to day, you can have four number

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Speaker 1: I was born in the eighties, so it wasn't like

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Speaker 1: so there's like there's like the double So when you

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Speaker 1: It's funny because nobody in my family listened to rock really.

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Speaker 1: of You call your step that Frank, Yeah, because I

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Speaker 1: called my step that Keith. That's not yeah, that's where

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Speaker 1: I think about that. But yeah, so you know, he

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Speaker 1: want to rebel against that. I felt like, you're rebelling,

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Speaker 1: I think that he doesn't try to intervene too much.

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Speaker 1: We don't yell, but you know, I mean it was

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Speaker 1: Like I know, it's just kind of kind of taking

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Speaker 1: And I think he I think he gets him excited

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Speaker 1: Your biological father is a massive songwriter. He's written let'st

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Speaker 1: off some songs that he's written, don't you want to say? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: They're sunny and seventy five I think was his latest one.

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Speaker 1: I'm He's written a bunch of songs and so he

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Speaker 1: it's interesting, it's all three of my parents. If you

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Speaker 1: They have different opinions, and I listened to them all

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Speaker 1: and then I kind of do you know, I do

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Speaker 1: what I feel in my heart. And your mom, who's

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Speaker 1: lean Walmack, she doesn't sound like you. You sound your

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Speaker 1: vocals sound very similar. But again, stylistically, it's like you

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Speaker 1: But I don't want to be anything like anybody else

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Speaker 1: that's like you rebelled, except in a nice way, like

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Speaker 1: that nice rebelled. You're rebelled with a guitar tone instead

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Speaker 1: kept buying it and buying it, and slowly it would trickle.

426
00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:05,960
Speaker 1: If you know the song, nobody, nobody will play it.

427
00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:11,040
Speaker 1: And this was no annoyance. It sounded like at the time,

428
00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:12,399
Speaker 1: it sound like nothing else in the radio. It was

429
00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,399
Speaker 1: all boy bands and it was all really well. I mean,

430
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,520
Speaker 1: when you hear Miranda Labert now it sounds familiar to you.

431
00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,320
Speaker 1: But back in the day people you just came out

432
00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,200
Speaker 1: with Kerostene and people are like, what that? It's so angry? Yeah,

433
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,320
Speaker 1: like what is happening? You know? And now that's her trademark,

434
00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:26,919
Speaker 1: and I think, you know, it's weird. I just read

435
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,120
Speaker 1: a book where they were talking about heya, the Outcast song.

436
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,119
Speaker 1: How is the same deal? People were like, what is this?

437
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,280
Speaker 1: We don't want to play it. They somehow got people

438
00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,440
Speaker 1: to kind of sandwich it in between two familiar songs too,

439
00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,600
Speaker 1: I guess, keep people from tuning out. And then it

440
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,520
Speaker 1: became one of the biggest It was a monster what

441
00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 1: are you reading? What you don't read? Outcast? Hey? Y'all?

442
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,919
Speaker 1: Like what it was called? It was called habit. It

443
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,640
Speaker 1: was actually about habits and and how what we're drawn

444
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,720
Speaker 1: to and how habits were created. What what do you

445
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,760
Speaker 1: learn from that book? Because I like to read. Um, Yeah,

446
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,720
Speaker 1: well I learned that. I learned it's interesting because people.

447
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 1: This book talked about how people crave familiarity, but they

448
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,440
Speaker 1: also like surprised. So they don't want things that sound

449
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:12,160
Speaker 1: exactly the same. They want something that's catchy but sounds

450
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,440
Speaker 1: a little different to them, you know. And and so

451
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 1: they might be resistant if something is too different and

452
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 1: they haven't heard it, haven't been exposed to it enough.

453
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 1: And I'm reading another book that's basically saying the exact

454
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 1: same thing. So starting to catch on here. It's called

455
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 1: hit Makers. It's about how anything a movie or song

456
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,479
Speaker 1: or anything now becomes a hit and why why they

457
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,959
Speaker 1: break through and how they catch on you feel? Are

458
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 1: you a pretty cerebral person? Like? Are you an intellectual?

459
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 1: I love to read. I love to read. Yes, I'm

460
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:43,160
Speaker 1: reading a book constantly. That's cool. No one ever comes

461
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:47,640
Speaker 1: in and says that most people are like I can't read,

462
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,359
Speaker 1: but I fairly got out of school. Let's let's keep

463
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,360
Speaker 1: that off here. So what's what's a day like for you?

464
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 1: Because you're out and you just finished with Miranda, right,

465
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 1: So you would go out on the weekends. Yeah, so

466
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,239
Speaker 1: a day on the road is you know, wake up

467
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 1: kind of late, go to lunch, start getting ready for

468
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 1: sound check, or maybe go visit a station during the

469
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 1: day and then you know, do they do this somebody sidetracker? Second,

470
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:10,679
Speaker 1: every radio station you get to, are they like, I

471
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 1: love it and we're going to play it, and then

472
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:17,400
Speaker 1: you leave and they never do um Yeah in a way, yeah,

473
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 1: that's pretty like you know what, I think this is

474
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 1: so different and it's really gonna cut through and I'm

475
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 1: gonna add it. It's gonna they don't. They don't say hey,

476
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 1: I mean some people did and then they did add it.

477
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,440
Speaker 1: I didn't have anybody say they were going to add

478
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 1: it and then not add it. But when they add it,

479
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,719
Speaker 1: they really play it because you can add, not play

480
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,919
Speaker 1: totally give it a spend it one in the morning.

481
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 1: It's like I was saying to you, I mean, my

482
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,160
Speaker 1: goal is to be exposed as much as possible, not

483
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Speaker 1: necessarily to go to number one, even though that's a

484
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,920
Speaker 1: great way to be exposed. But I just want people

485
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Speaker 1: to hear it, you know, whether it's whatever station it's on,

486
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 1: and whatever. You know what I mean. I just want

487
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,880
Speaker 1: to connect with people and hopefully they can hear these

488
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,719
Speaker 1: stories and hear something that they connect within it. And

489
00:22:54,760 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 1: so you know that's the goal. So angry, let me

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513
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Speaker 1: to see it. How about this? I like this song here.

514
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 1: This song is called Losing Ground just said song. Yes, yeah,

515
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,959
Speaker 1: I know, I know it is already. I know all

516
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Speaker 1: your long just that are angry beneath dirt fullingder me

517
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Speaker 1: no where to go? Did you ever think about doing

518
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Speaker 1: the and maybe you did first? I don't know. I

519
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 1: don't know your your early early story, because again I

520
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 1: was just introduced to you by finding your music on

521
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,880
Speaker 1: YouTube and going this is interesting. And then I then

522
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 1: I went and I download on iTunes and I was like, wow,

523
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 1: I'd like to I'm gonna keep nine of these songs.

524
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 1: I remember, I was like, I'm gonna eat this one

525
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 1: about like this one and this one and so like.

526
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 1: So I don't know a lot of the back stuff.

527
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 1: So did you ever think because Jacob Dylan would not

528
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: say he was Bob Dylan's son forever? I tried to

529
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: avoid it as much as possible. I would assume you

530
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: would want to write and and your dad is a

531
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 1: famous songwriter, but he's not known really outside of the

532
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: Nashville bubble. First of all, did you ever feel like

533
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: go on the easy route and go on, I'm Aubrey

534
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,199
Speaker 1: Walmac No way, okay, the opposite. Did you ever think

535
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 1: about having a whole different name than sellers? No? I

536
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: felt like no one would know. I mean, my dad

537
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: did have a record deal, and some people know who

538
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 1: he is from his music, but you know, not as

539
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: much as his songwriting. And so really people don't people

540
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: say my name? They have no idea. Then they a

541
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: lot of people hear my voice and then they make

542
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 1: the connection or they google and that's how they find out.

543
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 1: Do you hear in your voice? Though? And your mom

544
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: like you? Definitely? Because I see my sister and people

545
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: are like you look just I don't think like anything alike.

546
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: But everyone's like, you're just alike, and I'm like, well, like,

547
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't see it. And everyone says it,

548
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 1: But you can hear your mom and your voice similar.

549
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: I can hear even a little bit of my dad

550
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,199
Speaker 1: and some of his the way he sings. He's a

551
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: good singer. But um, I think it's different. It's not

552
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,360
Speaker 1: exactly the same, but it's definitely similar. And the vocals vocally,

553
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: that's the most similarity I have to anything music wise.

554
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 1: You know what I mean when you walk into an

555
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: interview is the first question always about your freaking mom.

556
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 1: I love your mom, by the way, but I mean,

557
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 1: as someone with it isn't always like, hey, so opera

558
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 1: sellers here, so talk about your mom? You want to

559
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 1: pull your hair out right? Well, you know, I mean

560
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 1: it's like I get it. But people want to talk

561
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 1: about what that's the story to them, you know, And

562
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: I hope to hope that there's more of a story

563
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,239
Speaker 1: once they hear the music and here, that it's not

564
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: the same. And that's kind of how I direct the

565
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,360
Speaker 1: conversation usually is yeah, you know, I'm proud of my mom,

566
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 1: and I'm doing when someone goes there immediately, I'm so

567
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:55,239
Speaker 1: used to it. I'm used to it. But you know,

568
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I rebelled against music, not I always knew

569
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: I wanted to do music, but I did a bunch

570
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 1: of acting. I went to acting school. That was kind

571
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 1: of my thing. Apart from my family. Nobody knew, you

572
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like nobody could. Yeah, I went

573
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: to acting school Strasbourg in l a. Um, look at

574
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: you and what do you want? Like what was the

575
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: goal here? Like like film acting? And I'm actually have

576
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: an agent now I'm just I've been auditioning again. Um,

577
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 1: vampire parts, Yeah, exactly, I'm gonna be the new Twilight

578
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: because they're already remaking it. If they make you or

579
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 1: something like pink, you're gonna this is the whole acoustic

580
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 1: guitar thing. You're not gonna allow it. Well, it's so

581
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: interesting because I'm really introverted, and acting for me was

582
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: I was less shy when acting because I don't have

583
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: to be myself and it took me so long to

584
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: get comfortable on stage as myself. Singing that was way

585
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: way harder for me. And so you know, acting is

586
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 1: like you're not being yourself. It's it's easier to do that,

587
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because it's it's really how

588
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 1: I live my life as too microphones and I wrote

589
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: a book, and I talked about I talked about that

590
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: in my book. It's like, I'm terrible at real life

591
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: any sort of real life communication. Terrible. But if you

592
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: put a microphone in front of me, if it's the

593
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 1: radio show, if I'm doing stand up comedy, or if

594
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 1: I'm out with my band comedy band playing on the weekends,

595
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 1: like I am the most fun person to be around

596
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: while I'm on. When I'm not on, I got nothing

597
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: to say. I am. I'm not. I don't make myself

598
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: vulnerable at all. But when I'm on, like it's party time,

599
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: right Mike. When I'm off, I got nothing. I'm scared

600
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: to put myself out there a bit. Yeah. Do you

601
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: feel the same way? Yeah, definitely, I think you know.

602
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's interesting because I'm very introverted. But

603
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: maybe you relate to this too. I feel like I

604
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: want to connect with people and experience that connection, and

605
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: so that's why I put myself out there with music

606
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: and go on the road and things that normally are

607
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: not a typical, like for an introvert to do get

608
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: up and do stand up comedy? Are you kidding me? Like?

609
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: Are you do you consider yourself introverted? Every every ounce

610
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: of me until I'm introverted. Before I go on stage.

611
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: What am I doing in the back in the back,

612
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: slumping over like like and I love doing it? But

613
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:20,719
Speaker 1: I got no, I'm just not good with people. I'm

614
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: really I'm I'm not good with people until it's time

615
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: to be good with people and I can turn on this.

616
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: I feel you. It's part of me, that's me, but

617
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: it's it's a part where it doesn't it's the absolute truth,

618
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: but it doesn't feel real, if that makes sense, Like

619
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: it I'm not being somebody that I'm not, but I

620
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: don't feel like I'm vulnerable because I'm behind this. Hey

621
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,239
Speaker 1: it's look, it's Bobby bones of my real freaking name. Well,

622
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: you're not having to reveal every part of you. You're

623
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, so pretty much the old stroke. It's

624
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: all out there right even then sometimes it good dicey.

625
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: So you're you could say you're an introverted person. Yes,

626
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: but it's like I said, I mean, why would why

627
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: are we in this business? Because here's why we're in

628
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,959
Speaker 1: the business. This is my my opinion. We all have something.

629
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: You spending time with therapy because I have Oh boy,

630
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: I bought my therapy as a car for sure. One year.

631
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: I feel like we're in this business because there's something,

632
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: there's something that's missing in us, and we are looking

633
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: to find it through this group of people, some sort

634
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: of support for me. I think it was I need

635
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: to feel love from something. I'm not allowing it from

636
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: anyone close to me because I'm just messed up. I

637
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: never got it as a kid, and so I searched

638
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: for it from people that I don't know. So I

639
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: go out on stage and if they laugh, I feel loved.

640
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: If they clap and they cheer, I feel like that's

641
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: some And I get this and I love it while

642
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: I'm on stage, or I love it when I'm behind

643
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: a microphone. Then you go back to the hotel room

644
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: of the house and it's just like you know, it feels.

645
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: So that's what I was saying earlier is I craved

646
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: the connection. That's why That's why I want my music

647
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: to reach people. That's why I want to I like

648
00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: songs are so sad and angry it all so I

649
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: I connected with acting. It was a way to express

650
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: different emotions in different characters and different you know. Yeah,

651
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: it's like a way to connect with people that you're

652
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: not getting it. Maybe in your in your normal introverted life.

653
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: How do you do Because I have a girlfriend, we've

654
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: been together for at this point for nine months or so,

655
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: are you talking about your personal life? I have no idea.

656
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: Do you mean whatever? Are you are? You have a boyfriend?

657
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: And are you good at that? Yeah? I mean we

658
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: get along really well. He's pretty introverted. He plays music

659
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: with me, he plays in my bands. Oh my goodness,

660
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,959
Speaker 1: we're together. Oh my god. I don't even know how

661
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: we get along really well? We do. Um, he's not

662
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: as introverted as I am, but I think he totally

663
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: gets it. Let me ask you this question though, because

664
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: I don't even care who he is or what. But

665
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: yours boss? Yes, your your boyfriend's boss. That's an interesting dynamic.

666
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: It's funny too, because I've been writing with them for

667
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: the first time recently. We've just been you know, I

668
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: really he's amazing, amazing guitar player, songwriter, really talented, one

669
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: of those super super creative people. You know. He just

670
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: focuses on making creating the music constantly, and he's my

671
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: band leader and I really respect his opinion. But there's

672
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: definitely times where I have to be the boss, but

673
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: you also pay him right and go, hey, it's time

674
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: for a race. Not wow, he I mean, I'll tell

675
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: you he's probably like the chilliest, most easygoing person I've

676
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: ever known, so it makes it really easy. Are you

677
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: a ty personality? I don't know. It's weird because I

678
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: like he's a super relaxed to where he's like late

679
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: to everything, and I'm the opposite. As you know, I've

680
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: showed up early, like I'm always like I'm like want

681
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: to be there. I get anxious if I'm not there,

682
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: but I'm not necessarily like to me, Okay, making plans

683
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: I like makes me want to throw up. Like I'm

684
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: not a plank, but I'm a type of where I'm

685
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: going to be the leader with the ship may go down,

686
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: but I'm going to captain this thing and we're gonna

687
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,239
Speaker 1: crash into iceberg or we're gonna win the race, but

688
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: I'm going to be the captain. It's funny because yeah,

689
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: I think if you ask anyone that I work with,

690
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: I'm I'm like, I guess if that's what a type

691
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: A is, then yes, because I am so detail oriented.

692
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: So you know, let's do this let's do this paying

693
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: attention to everything, you know what I mean, whether it's

694
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: creative or business or anything. I'm like, in there, can

695
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: you separate with him and go, okay, music off? I

696
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: think it's such okay. He grew up like his parents

697
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: played bluegrass, so he grew up around music. So we

698
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: have a similar background that way too, And I think

699
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: that it's just so ingrained in us. It's not really

700
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: something that you turn off necessarily. But we don't. I don't.

701
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: We don't have a problem with it. I mean it's

702
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: it works out pretty well. What do you listen to? Like,

703
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: you know, I was just looking at my list of

704
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: the last three songs, like I have the ed Shear

705
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: and I didn't I think I kept I'm gonna tell

706
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: you this, I didn't keep as many Ed Shearing songs

707
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: as I did your record. And I love the Adhering

708
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: now and I think he's got some fantastic stuff. I

709
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: think he try. He tries to do like seventh thinking

710
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: out louds though on that record, and I'm like, dude,

711
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: get over it. Like I love Edge Hearing, I love it,

712
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: but I'm like, how many times you can try? Thinking

713
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: allowed in this records? I mean every song. I was like,

714
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: when youre su next door and I'm like, dude, So

715
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: that record is one of the last ones that I've

716
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 1: really played a lot. Um my girlfriend, but out of record,

717
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: that's really good this weekend. So I listened to that

718
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: a lot, and I like a bunch of hip hop stuff.

719
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: Because I work out. I don't work at the country.

720
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: I can't get the county music. Yeah, that would be awful.

721
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: I can't. I just there's only maybe like some Keith

722
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 1: there been where the Black Tops, because there's only our brothers,

723
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: Osborne and my fault. Like that's about it inside my word.

724
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 1: So what do you listen to for fun? Right now?

725
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: It's so funny because I'm really boring because I listened

726
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,959
Speaker 1: to the same things over and over and over again,

727
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: and but nothing new excites you when it comes out,

728
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: Like I love the new John Mayer stuff. Him and

729
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 1: Garth my favorite all time life artists. I'm trying to

730
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: think of the newest album that I've downloaded. Okay, the

731
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: last album that I heard and I was like, holy crap,

732
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: this is just cool and I never heard anything like

733
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,439
Speaker 1: it was the new Tam and Paula. The newest Tam

734
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: and Paula record, You're way too cool. I don't have

735
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:13,959
Speaker 1: to spell that. I don't even know what words you're saying.

736
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: I'm must sare it that way? Tame Paula Tame Okay, wait, no,

737
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: you gotta let me pick this song. Holy cow, there's

738
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: ninety five million listens to one of these things. Play

739
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: that first one, hold on minute, The less I know,

740
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: the better. Tame and Paula. Okay, they're very cool looking

741
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: like they having a showers in about six days kind

742
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: of restaurant there. It's like the ruvious stuff. Ever, I

743
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: should go skating to this. And there's the lead singer

744
00:35:52,680 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: female male male. Where are these people from? I've never

745
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:12,919
Speaker 1: ever heard anything's Australian, but I'm making that up. I think, oh, yes, wow,

746
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: you're so cool. This is Look how many plays it

747
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: has and not the only person who knows this no its,

748
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 1: I can look at them million of the other plays

749
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: or what Aubredy sellers. Listen to the related artists here.

750
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: Related artists to Tame and Paula Pond never heard of him?

751
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: Unknown Mortal Orchestra. I've heard of them, you have they

752
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: have to be terrible. After listen I've not listened to them. Really, Okay,

753
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: here we go, let's listen to it. This is uh

754
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: so good at being in trouble. It's something exactly like

755
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:51,720
Speaker 1: Tam and Paul singer. Wait. I do know that somebody

756
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: in this band is either in Tam and Paul or

757
00:36:53,440 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: in another band. That's the only thing I think. You're

758
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: just You're just cool and no, no, that's not always

759
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: a compliment and would be like, hey, you're real cool,

760
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: like cool can hurt you a little bit? Because, like

761
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this, did the last songs after that's

762
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: download this Michelle Branch hopeless romantic? Like I love Michelle Branch.

763
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: She did this with one of the Black Keys and

764
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 1: he produced it. She lives here now and they live

765
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: here and he is there dated. I didn't know that cool.

766
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: That's cool, right, But it's also Michelle Branch who was

767
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: like pop radio queen, so like I was a fan already,

768
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: But that sounds like, um, rotten apolo? What do you

769
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: call about that? Rotten Paula? How about this is another song?

770
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 1: This is it's my girlfriend's song. She just puts that

771
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: waiting on you And this is cool because it's kind

772
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: of bluesy too. Let's hear it. And you know this

773
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: is not normal country like, but this new love thing

774
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: man not kiss the soul dancing you and she's gonna

775
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: get a bit with you. Got like that sounds like everything.

776
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: That's a good thing. But she's like, screw it. I'm

777
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: just gonna put out what I want to put it out. Well,

778
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: this is going baby, I can't see every time you

779
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 1: leave me, I just want you to see. It's you know,

780
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: it's so mad at radio and I've been radio. I

781
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: literally have the biggest country morning tooin the history of

782
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: country morning shows. And I get so mad at radio.

783
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: I shouldn't be getting mad at terio. I get so mad.

784
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 1: And then here I'm gonna pay you good at Sharon song.

785
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: That's cool. Yeah, she's cool. I like, I want to

786
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 1: hear I want to hear the wait she just put

787
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: on EP right on Friday. Right, Yeah, it's uh yeah,

788
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: it's I mean, it's mediocre. You know you're you're probably

789
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: it's no um Tampa Paula, Tampa, Paula, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

790
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: This is a jamp about here and here it's called

791
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: what do I know? Ain't got a soap stand up

792
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: gave me stage concern you like a man? Yeah, not really.

793
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: Most of them like at your and go. Yeah, but

794
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: I know I've listened. I mean, you know, I don't

795
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: listen to regularly. Christ Now I'll painted picture, let me

796
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 1: say the scene and when I have children? Do you

797
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 1: have anything that you like? Because for me, because there's

798
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: a song about to play him and I don't wanna

799
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: tell you who it is. I don't like my screenka.

800
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: I don't like a screen because I love the blues. Yeah,

801
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: I love the blues. And I heard this song and

802
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: I was like, geez, this song is so good and

803
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, listen to the pain right here? Have you

804
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: ever heard this song? You know a new This is

805
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: John Mayr. It's not John Mayr. It does sound John Mayer.

806
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: Do you think about me? You can hear the pain

807
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: right there? Right? Can you name? Let me hear a

808
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: little one? Yeah? Do you feel the same thing I didn't? Yeah?

809
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: Do you remember how Justin Bieber basically Sean Mindez, he's

810
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: like twelve me. It sounded like one of those guys,

811
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: but he plays guitar like he's a real life artist,

812
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: like that really makes music. But he started on Vine

813
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: and it's so young. He doesn't get that respect because

814
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 1: they put up Did he start on vine? Yeah he's

815
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: vine this six second vine kid Fine. I loved it. Yeah,

816
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: it was too quick for me. It was too like

817
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 1: I like Snapchat. I don't like instant stories as much

818
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: to do snapchat stories and stories are too long for me. Yeah. Um,

819
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 1: Although it's an annoying because all your instagrams that I've

820
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 1: seen are black and white. Do you do all black

821
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: and white all time? Not all the time? Most of

822
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: the time, I don't think I've seen any color. Like

823
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 1: that's got to be annoying, right, I have to live

824
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: like you. They have to live this black and white lifestyle.

825
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: That's well, that's what I'm saying though, And it's the

826
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: same thing as my clothes, like most of the time.

827
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 1: That's just what I like. Yeah, I've only have a

828
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: nice personality. Well you can beat black and white and nice. Yeah,

829
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 1: this was good. I like this that you did because

830
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: I love cold Play and you guys got into a van.

831
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: There are a lot of you and you did green Eyes.

832
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite cold Play songs. I think

833
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: it was from a Russian Blood to Day. Yeah, the

834
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: record played this on my show. I thought it was

835
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: so good. You're welcome so much, and the video wasn't

836
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: black and white, believe it or not. That was good

837
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: because I love colfora You never seen them live, no,

838
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: Oh my good, change your lives I have. You know,

839
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: they're one of the few bands I have every single record.

840
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: I know every song. I'm obsessed and I've never seen them.

841
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: They are so good. I can't wait. I'm going to

842
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: see them. And it was at some point when they

843
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: came out. Cold Play came out and they were like

844
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: life changing, and then it turned into if you like Coldplay,

845
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: suck because they're lame. And now they're cool again. It's

846
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: been a weird thing. It's hard for artists about so

847
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,439
Speaker 1: annoyed when people are weird about cold Play because they're

848
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: not cool or whatever. I'm like, they're good, get over it.

849
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: Yeah they're fantastic. I Loveday, but also love sad songs. Yeah,

850
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,439
Speaker 1: I love sad songs and also love melodies. And he's

851
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: like King of melody and he's you know, met him,

852
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: sitting him. He's such a weirdo, and it makes in

853
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: the weirdest. People are creative. People have to be different

854
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: to be creative. So they're also different in person, and

855
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 1: he's one of the weirdest humans, but he's it's just fantastic.

856
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: I love cold Play. Man, Um, who do you in town?

857
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: Who are your friends that I would know? L can't interesting?

858
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: Like who would you call that I would know just

859
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: from like no, not maybe not even personally, but like

860
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 1: that we who's your closest friend that had this an

861
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: artist that has a deal. This is difficult because I'll

862
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: have friends either. So I mean I have all my

863
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: close close friends. I was born in Aashville, so all

864
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: my close close friends are just people I went to

865
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: school with when I was eleven. Did you grow up?

866
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: Were any of those kids? These Nashville kids are any

867
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: of them like making it now? All doing different things?

868
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: So I had a friend who now is in l

869
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: A and she's like a super successful dancer. She's Jason

870
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: Drula right now stationed Drulo's backup dancer. She used to

871
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: be Christ's. Yeah, she's doing that. I don't have I

872
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm trying to think of somebody I know

873
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: that does music that was you know. I don't think

874
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: I don't any one that's doing music, but a few

875
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: people like that, who are doing some cool things. What's

876
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: it like being a kid in Nashville? Whenever you have

877
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: a famous parent? That does that suck? You know? I

878
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: was homeschooled more than I went to school, so that

879
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 1: explains a lot of this. It's interesting when I went

880
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: to school, that's so mean. My favorite she just kept going.

881
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: So I when I went to school for the first time,

882
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: well for the first time, as like a you know,

883
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: not a preschooler. Um. I try to hide who my

884
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: mom was, Like I wouldn't let her like drop me

885
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: off or come inside anywhere. And then somebody saw her

886
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: picking me up one day a mom and told her daughter,

887
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: and then everyone knew. And then it was like I

888
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: was so upset, like I didn't want anyone to know.

889
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: I was going to keep it a secret as long

890
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,919
Speaker 1: as seemingly possible. Was it because you're the normal kid

891
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: who just embarrassed their parents or you just wanted your

892
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: own identity? Yeah? I think I wanted my own identity.

893
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: And it's like you're saying, it's like everywhere you go

894
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: then people are just like, wow, that's so cool, and

895
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 1: that's all they want to talk about. And it's like, jeez,

896
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:32,919
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, especially as a kid, You're like,

897
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: I just want to live my life. I feel bad

898
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 1: for my son and I don't even have any kids yet,

899
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,919
Speaker 1: but when I do. Oh can you imagine, like, yeah,

900
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: talking about me all the time? Oh no, here, this

901
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: is the song now unless the podcast left for years

902
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 1: and years, so this five years from now? Who knows,

903
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: but this song, Liar Liar is the one that is

904
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: going to radio. Now do you feel good about this?

905
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: How do you feel about it? Like? Really, how do

906
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,919
Speaker 1: you feel about going on the radio? Speak from the heart?

907
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I think my opinion on this song is

908
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: this is the song that I get the most people

909
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: coming to me it shows and saying that they relate

910
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: to it. And that's all I have to say about it.

911
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: And I think that it's a relatable thing that lots

912
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: of people experience and hopefully they'll connect with that if

913
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: they even get the chance to hear it. And that

914
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:31,879
Speaker 1: could be an issue, but you know, it's just it's

915
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 1: why doing the like you did could play. It's why

916
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 1: doing those songs matter. A lot of artists don't want

917
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: to do covers because they're like, this is my this

918
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 1: is just me theory, This is not your theory. This

919
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 1: is me theory. It's like they're like, I don't want

920
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: to covers because I have my own music, and I'm like,

921
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: that's great, and if that's really how you feel, fantastic,

922
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 1: stick to it. Bobby theory is do a cover that

923
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: makes everybody go look at it, and then you know

924
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 1: what else they might see is the stuff that you're

925
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: struggling to get out there. And then once you have

926
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: four or five, six, seven hits, you have new covers anymore.

927
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: You're good. I crave doing covers, honestly, songs that I've

928
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: loved or I or I hear it may not even

929
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: be a song that I listened to all the time,

930
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: but I hear it and I just immediately hear a

931
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: way that I would want to do it, you know

932
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: what I mean. And I think it's a great way

933
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 1: to I think it's also a great way to let

934
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: people know where you came from, you know what I mean,

935
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: and what you listen to and what inspired you, and

936
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: and and also show how you can take a song

937
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: and make it your own. And I think that shows

938
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: a little bit, a little bit about who you are

939
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 1: as an artist. You know. So we're gonna get into

940
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: any tame and Paula um tam and Paula songs came

941
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: and Paula songs are all about seven minutes long and

942
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: but have about a thousand words. And I am terrible

943
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: at remembering lyrics. So probably not when you opened, because

944
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: you're you? Are you the first act on the Miranda tour?

945
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: Were you already just finished? Who's on the tour? Was

946
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: you met Old Dominion and Miranda? Okay, so you go

947
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: out as the first act. It's awesome and frustrating one.

948
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: You're on the Mirando tour. That's awesome, she's a list. Yes,

949
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: you're the first act. Let people are like shuffling into

950
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: their seats or do they know your music? And so

951
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: it's gotta be harder to even get their attention right

952
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 1: when you're the first act. Up. I felt on this

953
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: tour and you know this is the thing to First

954
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: of all, the music doesn't identically match anyone, but I

955
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: think as far as a mainstream country tour, that's the

956
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: best one I could get. I mean, they want they're

957
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: coming to see a woman who plays electric guitar and

958
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 1: sing songs from her heart, and that's also what I do.

959
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: Even though it's a you know, it's a different and

960
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: the they she had a pit in the front, which

961
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: made it a lot more familiar to me because I'm

962
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 1: used to playing rock clubs and so I've got people

963
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: right up on the stage and the pit was always full,

964
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 1: and the room was always pretty full, and it felt

965
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 1: like it felt like people were listening, and you know,

966
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 1: you've always got those nights where you've got people are

967
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 1: kind of like you know, and you just gotta work

968
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 1: through it. But I think almost, I mean, I would

969
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: say ninety pc of the shows were amazing. It was awesome.

970
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: How did um did you? Because the thing about people people,

971
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,919
Speaker 1: you know, you're on towards somebody and sometimes you don't

972
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: even really spend any time with the other people on

973
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,720
Speaker 1: tour because everybody's kind of split up and your sound

974
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: checking at different times and they're coming in while you're

975
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: going out. Did you spend any real time with her? Yeah?

976
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: I mean the problem with this tour was it was

977
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: pretty short and in comparison to some long, longer tours

978
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 1: that take a year or you know what I mean.

979
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: So yes, and I've known Miranda for a long time too,

980
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 1: so I forget your step and produced the records. Yeah,

981
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 1: what does she tell you. It's funny because I remember

982
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: telling her about my record before it came out, and she,

983
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: you know, I said, what's really different? That's all I've

984
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: told her, and you know, and I said, I don't

985
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,959
Speaker 1: know how people are going to react, and she just said,

986
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: you know what, it's kind of like same for me, basically,

987
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. When she came out, same deal.

988
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: It's like not doesn't sound like anything else. You have

989
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: no idea, And she basically said, stick to your guns

990
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: and those you know, like I said, those are the

991
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: artists I respect, and she listens, you know, Steve row

992
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:01,919
Speaker 1: and some of those artists that I love too. So

993
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, to watch her every night

994
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: doing that and now playing arenas when I've seen her

995
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: play you know, little places in Texas. But that's who

996
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: plays arenas. People that do something different and make it pop,

997
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: like look at arena acts. Those are the people that

998
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: change the culture of whatever it is. That's what I

999
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: say about having a long lasting career versus you can

1000
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: have five number one songs and and you spend your

1001
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 1: life opening for other artists and haven't built any hard

1002
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: ticket sales. Up and then nobody really there's no identity,

1003
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: there's no base for you, you you know, and then you've

1004
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 1: you've been You're reliant on radio singles to keep your

1005
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 1: career going, and once that's gone, you don't have anything,

1006
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,879
Speaker 1: you know, and that's that would be my worst fear,

1007
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: you know. And I'm sure somebody who's having a ton

1008
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: of success right now and five number one songs doesn't

1009
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 1: care about any of that. But there are artists that

1010
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: I can and I won't to say the name, and

1011
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 1: I like about three of them that have many number

1012
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: ones and they can't get recognized walking on the street

1013
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: because people don't care about they just the songs are good,

1014
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: but there's only nothing of to them, and so you know,

1015
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: and they live a night but they're you know, they're like,

1016
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: what can I do? What do I know? I'm a

1017
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 1: freaking radio DJ. But you know, you're right. And then man,

1018
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: I tell you, Eric Church just they listen to his

1019
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 1: album cuts. You ever been an Eric Church show? I've

1020
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 1: not seen him, and I can't even say that I'm

1021
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 1: a huge Eric Church fan. I like his songs, but

1022
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: they're because Eric Church fans are so die hard that

1023
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: if you call yourself. One. You need to be like

1024
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: an Eric Church fan, like you better punch somebody in

1025
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: the face. Yea if they insult your dude. But like

1026
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,399
Speaker 1: that's the dude. Like who when he goes to place

1027
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: three hours and he's playing album cuts, the crossing in

1028
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: every album. What I'm saying, Man, that's the stuff. Yeah,

1029
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: that's the stuff. Same with Randa, she's playing songs that

1030
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: maybe literally I get somebody like a radio person might

1031
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 1: call it a failure, you know, but then you've got

1032
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: the entire audience singing along like you're saying every word,

1033
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 1: and you're like, what's what's the where's the failure? Like

1034
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 1: you know people connected with it. It's like Tam and Paula,

1035
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,479
Speaker 1: like I just can't get enough of that, you know, Sam,

1036
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 1: that's not something you listened to. It Mike listen is

1037
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 1: to punk and this stuff this time he does do

1038
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: is terrible. He listens to the worst music. It all

1039
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: sounds like the guy's holding his nose and he's thirty

1040
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: four and he's whining about being grounded, like that's every

1041
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 1: song that it's always like my mom won't let me go?

1042
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: Are Like, dude, you're thirty years old, Like mean him

1043
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: out of the basement, but but he loves that stuff. God.

1044
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: Oh it is total crap and like spit on each other.

1045
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: Concerts right blasted super loud. We went, Where did my

1046
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: ears hurt? Oh? We went. We went to UM. It

1047
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 1: was Melissa Etheridge and my girlfriend and Cam and Orionthy.

1048
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: Do you know Orion's plays guitar. Yes, crazy guitar player.

1049
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: And it was so loud. I was miserable the whole show.

1050
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: It was just it was like my ears were hurting.

1051
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: I couldn't enjoy it. It was not It was just

1052
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: not fun. Why because it was so loud and we

1053
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: were setting out front at a table and it was

1054
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 1: miserable for me. Right, and I love this Ethers you know,

1055
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 1: come to my window. I was like, I know all

1056
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 1: the words, but I couldn't get it because it's just

1057
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 1: like painful on my head. And so I look over

1058
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: my d is just like smiling in heaven, just loving it.

1059
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: And he was like, dude, all I need somebody to

1060
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: spit on me. And what's every man, Mike ever heard

1061
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: of them? What? Laato? What? You have a feather? A

1062
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: feather for? What? For aesthetic value? Because yeah, has no

1063
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 1: real meaning? No, I mean, so my first tattoos behind

1064
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:49,879
Speaker 1: my ear it's a sparrow, which is a song bird.

1065
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: And then I just have always felt I guess a

1066
00:53:52,480 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: connection with birds, isn't that unique and cool? Like a crow? Exactly? Oh,

1067
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: and that's why I got it. It's not really I

1068
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: just liked it. I'm root for you, Aubrey. I know,

1069
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means in the grand scheme

1070
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: of things, but like, I'm rooted for you because I

1071
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: not only do I enjoy your music, I enjoy how

1072
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: you do your music. Thank you. And it's just like

1073
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do it how I do it, and

1074
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 1: if it works, great, and who doesn't keep doing now

1075
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 1: I do it. That's just it and I can respect

1076
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 1: that because man if I failed, I have failed a

1077
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 1: lot just trying to do it how I do it,

1078
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 1: and then eventually it catches, and it's gonna catch for you.

1079
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: You're you're too good for it not to catch. It's

1080
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: just when are people going to catch up to you?

1081
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: That's how I feel. I can't see the future, but

1082
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: all I know is if you keep writing songs from

1083
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: your heart, somebody will hear it. And I can see

1084
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 1: the future. I can. And so eventually people are going

1085
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,439
Speaker 1: to catch up to what you're doing. And who knows

1086
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: where it'll be, but eventually people are gonna cat chop.

1087
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: They're gonna be like day I remember, listen Bob in

1088
00:54:52,239 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 1: that podcast who was right? It's called just to Be

1089
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 1: with You. I encourage you to download Aubrey and you know,

1090
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: listen to her music. Give it a shot. If you

1091
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:09,879
Speaker 1: don't like it, delete a song as like I did

1092
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: five of them. Oh my god, No, don't tell people that,

1093
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: but listen. You write from your heart. I speak from

1094
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: my heart. What if they have never heard this and

1095
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: they do download seven or eight of the song, that

1096
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 1: would be it's better. Yes, if you listen to one song,

1097
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: I'm happy, okay, Yeah, even if you delete. I'm just saying,

1098
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 1: don't encourage it. No, I'm just saying, give everything a shot,

1099
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: and if you like it, that's a win. Yes, it's

1100
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: definitely a win. You write from your heart. I Speak

1101
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: to my heart. Um and and liar. I don't know

1102
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: if any radio people are listening to this, I would

1103
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: assume they do it. They all say they don't. They

1104
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 1: listen everything, and then they all talk trash. They talk

1105
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 1: trash about me. It's a whole thing. It's terrible, probably

1106
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: because they want to go I hate radio people. That

1107
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 1: probably why, and they're like, wow, I sure love you. Yeah,

1108
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: I know right. It's hard to expect to be loved

1109
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: by people I like. I love radio, but sometimes I

1110
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 1: feel like it holds itself back in our format. I

1111
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 1: feel like hold its own back down a bit to change. Um. So, hey,

1112
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: I played a liar, liar if I were out there

1113
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: and you're listening right now, that's all I'm saying. So

1114
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: I'm glad you came in. It's cool to finally made you.

1115
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 1: Thank you so much your Instagram. I thought I wasn't

1116
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 1: too boring, just kind of not not. I just play

1117
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: feel good about everything. Yeah, okay, so about your mom?

1118
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 1: An just about your mom? Like I too? Yeah? Like whatever?

1119
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: U episode is my episode forty six. You can follow

1120
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:49,240
Speaker 1: Aubrey at Aubrey Sellers a U B R I E

1121
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: S E L L E R S Aubrey Sellers. I

1122
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 1: respect how you make your music. I like your music,

1123
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: and just keep you will I'll tell you this, but

1124
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: just keep doing you. Man. You eventually you catch us up.

1125
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: Thank you. It means something. It really means something to

1126
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 1: me that you believe in honestly when when you take

1127
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: me for you know the thing this year, I was

1128
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: just like, even if it's just this guy, even if

1129
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: it's just Billy Jones, Yes, just the biggest DJ, even

1130
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: if it's you know, but no, keep on keeping on

1131
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: and if you ever need anything, Hey, I'll let you

1132
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: cut to my house. I'll thank you. Now. I guess

1133
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 1: we let a lot more people. Yeah, I was like,

1134
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 1: what we've done. We've probably had thirty people over right, Yeah,

1135
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: and yeah, the only people I enjoyed. Anybody didn't enjoy.

1136
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: I think about there's anybody that's left, we have to

1137
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: their name? Are you going to say that when you know?

1138
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 1: But you know what I like, because now that's what happened.

1139
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: People come and I have no idea about them, right,

1140
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: some of them leave, and because most of them I've met.

1141
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: I try to stay out of circle, out of the

1142
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: Nashville circle, because then I like to be objective and

1143
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: I like to if something sucks, I'm just cool. It's

1144
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: have nothing to do it, and I'd like to have to,

1145
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: you know, link off people who I don't want to do.

1146
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: So I don't know a lot of cool people. But

1147
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: I didn't know Brandon from Lanco at all. And he

1148
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: came in and we talked and I was like, I

1149
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: did not expect that from that dude. That was I

1150
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 1: liked him a lot. I didn't coming in. I was like, Okay,

1151
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: I'm probably not gonna like this dude. He's too pretty.

1152
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 1: I was jealous. It was just my insecurity. As my insecurity,

1153
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 1: let't be honestly, is my insecurity is like, this guy's

1154
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 1: gonna come in. I really liked him. Michael's anybody that

1155
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 1: came in there, we were just like, he kind of sucked.

1156
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 1: I don't think I can't either. I really love Natalie

1157
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: him Be because she came in and do you know

1158
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: her all? Yes? Yeah, I liked her a lot. She's awesome. Yeah.

1159
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 1: I mean I was kind of nervous. I was like,

1160
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,439
Speaker 1: come in here, yeah, why because like it's like an hour.

1161
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: You know who came in that that was cool? This

1162
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: guy I haven't book John Oates from Hall and Oates.

1163
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 1: You had him in that school like last two weeks ago,

1164
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: rocking Hall of Fame. Nice. He had so much money

1165
00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 1: and he like he had an airplane and stuff, and

1166
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: he ended up want all his money on like five bucks.

1167
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: That's the goal to get so rich. And then here's

1168
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: the goal. I'm gonna give a new goal. I want

1169
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: you to get so rich that you when you lose

1170
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 1: it all, it's a new story. That's how you know

1171
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: you made it. That when you're so rich that whenever

1172
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 1: you lose all of your money, it's a news story.

1173
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 1: Oh my god, did you get it back? Because you

1174
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 1: have whatever talent you have, they got you there. But

1175
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 1: the fact that you lost all your money, that's a

1176
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 1: new story. That means you made it. That sounds stressful.

1177
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 1: I don't know about that, all right, You give your

1178
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: band leader a raise and finding if I ever make

1179
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: any money in the first place, if we got to

1180
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: get there. People don't realize a lot of new artists,

1181
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: if not most are all of them lose money for

1182
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: a long time because you gotta story, costs money to

1183
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 1: travel and pay band members, and you're not getting paid

1184
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 1: very much. True, it is true. Yeah, it's a grind. Okay,

1185
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: Albredy sellers, thanks for coming to hanging out, Thank you

1186
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,959
Speaker 1: so much. And then after you get a couple of hits,

1187
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 1: we'll bring you back and talking about how man the

1188
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 1: good old days when we used talking about just grinding

1189
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,439
Speaker 1: and out. I have to up. Forty six is over.

1190
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 1: We'll see you next time here, Mike Yea. We good.

1191
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 1: We're good. Do you have anything? Are you good? We're good. Okay,

1192
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: We're good. Good,