WEBVTT - We Were Loose With The Term "Tramp Stamp"

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe, Katty arm.

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<v Speaker 2>Strong and Jettie and now he.

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<v Speaker 3>Armstrong and Yetty.

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<v Speaker 4>I read President Trump's book The Art to Make a Deedle,

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<v Speaker 4>and he.

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<v Speaker 3>Advised to just close information before before it's time.

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<v Speaker 2>I just thought that was funny. Uh, that's the Art

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<v Speaker 2>to make a deal. I read The Art to Make

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<v Speaker 2>Va Making Deals. We didn't get to Trump's comments over

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<v Speaker 2>the weekend where he said I thought the toughest stuff

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<v Speaker 2>he said about Russia. Maybe a change of tone. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. He had a meeting alone alone with Zelenski

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<v Speaker 2>there at the Vatican because of the Pope's funeral. No

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<v Speaker 2>idea what they talked about out, but more on that later. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>interesting stuff. So a crazy, crazy thing happening. I saw

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump in the movies Homes to Be Homing Alone too,

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<v Speaker 2>and also.

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<v Speaker 5>The is Levrov and I every week watched the apprenticing.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well his English is better than my Russian. So

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<v Speaker 5>crazy thing happened last week in Wisconsin involving a rogue judge.

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<v Speaker 5>We'll see how Pere Thomas of ABC News does describe

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<v Speaker 5>in What Happens sixty Michael, a.

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<v Speaker 6>Sitting state court judge, is facing federal charges and up

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<v Speaker 6>to six years in prison. Milwaukee County Circuit Judge Hannah

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<v Speaker 6>Dugan faces multiple charges for allegedly obstructing ICE agents trying

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<v Speaker 6>to arrest in undocumented immigrants. According to a newly unsealed indictment,

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<v Speaker 6>on April eighteenth, Dugan was visibly upset when she and

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<v Speaker 6>another judge confronted a group of federal agents that had

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<v Speaker 6>come to her courthouse to arrest Eduardo Flores Ruez, an

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<v Speaker 6>undocumented Mexican citizen who was in court to face misdemeanor

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<v Speaker 6>domestic violence charges. Agent said she told them to go

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<v Speaker 6>to see the chief judge of the courthouse and went

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<v Speaker 6>back to her courtroom, where Judge Jugan then escorted Flores

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<v Speaker 6>Ruez and his counsel out of the courtroom through a

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<v Speaker 6>jury door. Flores Ruez was later arrested near the courthouse.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, there are a lot of facts he got right there.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's interesting you come away with a different impression

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<v Speaker 5>than you're about to have. Ah, what was I gonna say?

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<v Speaker 5>It seemed important at the time when it went by

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<v Speaker 5>him and.

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<v Speaker 3>That's weird. Oh, that's right.

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<v Speaker 5>The Washington Post portrayed this whole episode as part of

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<v Speaker 5>Trump's war against the judiciary. This is really sending a

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<v Speaker 5>message to judges all over the country.

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<v Speaker 3>That's something, something.

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<v Speaker 2>Having a chilling effect all bet Oh, absolutely so.

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<v Speaker 5>John Roberts on Fox News. I was talking to any

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<v Speaker 5>General BONDI about what happened. Listen to this play by

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<v Speaker 5>play and how does the deal feel to you after

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<v Speaker 5>you hear this?

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<v Speaker 4>So let me read a little bit from the criminal

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<v Speaker 4>complaint here, and Judge Dugan says, despite having been advised

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<v Speaker 4>of the administrative warrant for the arrest of Flores Ruiz,

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<v Speaker 4>Judge Dugan then escorted Flores Ruiz and his counsel out

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<v Speaker 4>of the courtroom through the jury door, which leads to

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<v Speaker 4>a non public area of the courthouse.

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<v Speaker 2>A footchase ensued.

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<v Speaker 4>The agents pursued Flora's Ruiz for the entire link to

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<v Speaker 4>the courthouse, and ultimately apprehended him. According to this complaint,

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<v Speaker 4>Judge Jiggen was visibly angry that Ice was there to

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<v Speaker 4>arrest Flores Ruiz even tried to kick the deportation agents

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<v Speaker 4>out of the courthouse.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and to set the stage for you and Sandra.

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<v Speaker 1>This was truly horrific. This guy was in court being

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<v Speaker 1>prosecuted by a state prosecutor for domestic violence battery. He

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<v Speaker 1>had beat up two people, a guy and a girl.

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<v Speaker 1>Beat the guy hif guy thirty times, knocked him to

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<v Speaker 1>the ground, choked him, beat up a woman so badly

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<v Speaker 1>they both had to go to the hospital. And John,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's so rare for victims to want to cooperate.

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<v Speaker 2>They wanted to cooperate.

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<v Speaker 1>They were sitting in the courtroom with the state prosecutor.

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<v Speaker 1>The judge learns that Ice was outside to get the

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<v Speaker 1>guy because he had been deported in twenty thirteen, came

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<v Speaker 1>back in our country, commits these crimes. Charged with committing

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<v Speaker 1>these crimes victims in court, judge finds out. She goes

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<v Speaker 1>out in the hallway, screams at the immigration officers. She's furious,

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<v Speaker 1>visibly shaken, upset, sends them off to talk to the

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<v Speaker 1>chief judge. She comes back in the courtroom here going

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<v Speaker 1>to believe this, takes the defendant and the defense attorney

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<v Speaker 1>back in her chambers, takes him out of private exit

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<v Speaker 1>and tells him to leave while a state prosecutor and

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<v Speaker 1>victims of domestic violence are sitting in the courtroom.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow, so look at that message this guy's And by

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<v Speaker 5>the way, you beat the hell out of two people

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<v Speaker 5>and it's a misdemeanor. Wow, including a woman. But so anyway,

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<v Speaker 5>with the prosecut ready to go on the case and

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<v Speaker 5>the victims in the courtroom, judge Lady judge says, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 5>what's much more important is this poor immigrant. Because no

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<v Speaker 5>human being is illegal. He must be freed from the

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<v Speaker 5>clutches of ice. So I'm going to end the trial

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<v Speaker 5>right now and show them the emergency exit and then

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<v Speaker 5>everybody's going to be around sitting around in the courtroom thinking, hey,

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<v Speaker 5>what the hell happened to the defendant? But it will

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<v Speaker 5>help him escape the clutches of ice. How perverse is that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, it's got to be straightened out. We've got

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<v Speaker 2>to figure this out. The Supreme Court has to rule

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<v Speaker 2>on this. Look, federal laws are federal laws. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>get to choose to be a city that ignores them.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, right, and if there's a immigration detainer and enforcement

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<v Speaker 5>action that the federal government has gone through due process

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<v Speaker 5>to set up, then yeah, you have to cooperate with

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<v Speaker 5>federal authorities. I mean there there, and you know, if

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<v Speaker 5>this were at all like a wobbly proposition like the

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<v Speaker 5>federal government was trying to enforce i don't know, good

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<v Speaker 5>hygiene or or you know, using proper English in public

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<v Speaker 5>or something like that. Okay, all right, that's a little

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<v Speaker 5>weird and intrusive, but that's the purview of the federal

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<v Speaker 5>government immigration that they're supposed to deal with. That they're saying,

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<v Speaker 5>this person is due to be you know, removed from.

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<v Speaker 3>The country deported. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm hoping this insane era passes by pretty quickly.

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<v Speaker 3>I just it's it's just nuts.

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<v Speaker 5>Worth pointing this out too, especially if you ever watch

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<v Speaker 5>any of the Evening Evening Newses. This is a clip

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<v Speaker 5>sixty seven here. I think it's self explanatory.

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<v Speaker 7>The White House has put up about one hundred posters

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<v Speaker 7>of what they say or unauthorized immigrants who have been

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<v Speaker 7>arrested for violent crimes. You could see them there. They

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<v Speaker 7>put them up on the driveway of the White House.

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<v Speaker 7>If you look here, that's the West wing just at

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<v Speaker 7>the forefront the Executive Mansion itself to the left. But

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<v Speaker 7>what's particularly noteworthy about this location is it is right

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<v Speaker 7>directly behind the positions where TV correspondents do their hits

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<v Speaker 7>from the White House lawnch So therefore, no matter what

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<v Speaker 7>network you're on that includes MSNBC, if you're doing a

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<v Speaker 7>hit from.

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<v Speaker 2>The White House right now, those pictures.

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<v Speaker 7>Will be behind you, the White House doing a briefing

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<v Speaker 7>in about a half hour about what.

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<v Speaker 3>They're doing here.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I find the whole one hundred day thing tedious anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>it is a pseudo event. Google it. It's a thing

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<v Speaker 2>that was described to many, many, many decades ago. The

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<v Speaker 2>media invents a thing then covers it like it's right,

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<v Speaker 2>like it happened spontaneously. But they to be covered, yes, yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>And final note Rich Lowry, who I find he writes

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<v Speaker 5>for the National Review. He's actually an editor in chief,

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<v Speaker 5>I think. But in terms of reasonableness and sense of

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<v Speaker 5>humor and fairness and the rest of it is about

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<v Speaker 5>at the top of the heap. But he was writing

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<v Speaker 5>about the whole due process question, and he makes an

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<v Speaker 5>excellent point, at least rhetorically, that Biden and company let

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<v Speaker 5>millions of people into the country without any due process whatsoever,

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<v Speaker 5>just you know, handed him a notice to appear that

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<v Speaker 5>they will ignore it completely and has changed the face

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<v Speaker 5>of the United States. Does that mean we don't have

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<v Speaker 5>to follow due process to get.

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<v Speaker 3>Rid of people? No, No, it's more difficult than that.

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<v Speaker 5>But Rich's ultimate point in this piece is that self

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<v Speaker 5>deportations are the way to do this, and the way

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<v Speaker 5>you do that is through everify.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. If you can't get a job, you leave.

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<v Speaker 5>Can't get welfare benefits off you go, can't get your

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<v Speaker 5>kids into schools, et cetera. It's a beautiful, elegant solution.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, you want to talk about but we need

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<v Speaker 5>guest workers.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, let's solve that. That's not impossible.

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<v Speaker 5>It might be, you know, a little controversial, but it

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<v Speaker 5>can be done. If we're at all serious about this stuff,

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<v Speaker 5>we could solve it in six months, including getting the

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<v Speaker 5>legislation through Congress where laws ought to come from.

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<v Speaker 2>I was in Chinatown in San Francisco over the weekend

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<v Speaker 2>with my son. How does that still? How are there

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<v Speaker 2>still so many people of Chinese origin? I mean, I understand,

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<v Speaker 2>like Chinese coming to this country in eighteen fifties and

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<v Speaker 2>building the railroad and all those different sort of things,

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<v Speaker 2>But how does it continue to be? I mean, so

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<v Speaker 2>many places in it seems people speak primarily Chinese and

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<v Speaker 2>all the signs are in Chinese, and they're I'm surprised

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<v Speaker 2>that continues. There hasn't been more of a uh, what's

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<v Speaker 2>the word we always use when different people come together

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<v Speaker 2>in assilation. I'm surprised there has been more assimilation in

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<v Speaker 2>your chinatowns.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess because you don't have to.

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<v Speaker 5>I know pretty well well two Americans who are living

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<v Speaker 5>in foreign lands as part of expat communities there.

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<v Speaker 2>And so there's just no need to learn that language

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<v Speaker 2>you hang out with other Americans.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, one is in a Spanish speaking land and the

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<v Speaker 5>others in Thailand. But yeah, you pick up a little

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<v Speaker 5>just to you know, you live there. You might as

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<v Speaker 5>well be able to say hello and good afternoon, thank you,

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<v Speaker 5>and that sort of thing. But other than that, you

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<v Speaker 5>live in an nextpac community and.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting people speak English. My other speaking of people coming

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<v Speaker 2>here from foreign lands, just my favorite thing that Trump

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<v Speaker 2>did over the weekend. I'm being sarcastic. He trumped this out.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm bringing Columbus Day back from the ashes. The Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>did everything possible to destroy Christopher Columbus's reputation, and all

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<v Speaker 2>of the Italians that love him so much they tore

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<v Speaker 2>down his statues and put up nothing but woke or

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<v Speaker 2>even worse, nothing at all. Well, you'll be happy to

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<v Speaker 2>know Christopher is going to make a major comeback. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>hereby reinstating Columbus Day under the same rules, dates and

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<v Speaker 2>locations as it had for all of them men decades before.

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<v Speaker 5>So call me get a tramp stamp of Christopher Columbus

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<v Speaker 5>because I understand tramp stamps are back too.

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<v Speaker 2>Both making you come back, Chris. It's funny the issues

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<v Speaker 2>that Trump jumps on bringing back Columbus Day. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't like the Wolke tearing down at Columbus Day statues.

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<v Speaker 2>Columbus Day is stupid, but o size.

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<v Speaker 5>I do not have a u a boat in this expedition.

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<v Speaker 2>So yes, Joe references gen Z. Women are bringing back

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<v Speaker 2>the tramp stamp proudly. It's empowering them somehow, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>quite get it. Among other things on the way stay here.

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<v Speaker 2>I suppose we are kind of loose with the term

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<v Speaker 2>tramp stamp, with the assumption that everybody knows what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably most people in the demographic listening do. It's a uh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a kind of tattoo lower back tattoo just above

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<v Speaker 2>the cleft, could be a variety of things. Well, let

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<v Speaker 2>me read from the.

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<v Speaker 3>Daily on a young lady.

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<v Speaker 2>On a young lady. Yes, tramp stamp is a derogatory

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<v Speaker 2>slang term. It's funny. It says that right off the

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<v Speaker 2>bat here, I I actually gotta admit I find them hot.

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<v Speaker 2>But I've never I've never been in any kind of

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<v Speaker 2>relationship with a woman who had one. So but it

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<v Speaker 2>says here. Tramp stamp is a derogatory slang term, particularly

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<v Speaker 2>used in the early mid two thousands, referring to a

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<v Speaker 2>tattoo in a woman's lower back. The term carries a

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<v Speaker 2>negative connotation, it says here, associating such tattoos with promiscuity

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<v Speaker 2>or loose morals.

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<v Speaker 5>The term is the care taking it all a ted

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<v Speaker 5>seriously but tesque go on.

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<v Speaker 2>The label is often used to shame or criticize women

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<v Speaker 2>who have this type of tattoo, with some attributing the

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<v Speaker 2>judgment to media portrayals and social expectations Wow expectations, to.

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<v Speaker 5>Booze writing this, you're a buzzkill. You're taking everything too seriously.

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<v Speaker 5>If people just say things because they're mildly clever, it

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<v Speaker 5>will all be fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have a tramp stamp? Uh? And I say

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<v Speaker 2>that with no judgment whatsoever, Katie, No, I don't, and

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<v Speaker 2>I do.

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<v Speaker 5>You gotta ask Michael next, otherwise it's misogyny.

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<v Speaker 2>I honestly have no judgment about tramp stamps as opposed

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<v Speaker 2>to what I just read there, I have no judgment whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's say, let's hear this TV news report from

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<v Speaker 2>today and then we can discuss the.

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<v Speaker 8>Major stock market drop has giving you flashbacks to the

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<v Speaker 8>two thousands.

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<v Speaker 2>This will just put you over the edge.

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<v Speaker 8>Gen Z is bringing back the lower back tube, derogatorily

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<v Speaker 8>referred to as the tramp stamp. So sorry to the

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<v Speaker 8>Tracys who just finished the last round of laser removal.

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<v Speaker 2>It's back, Tracy. Oh I remember pants like that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>So tattoo artists say it's coming back in a big way,

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<v Speaker 8>and it's actually a power move for women, one saying

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<v Speaker 8>getting a lower back tat allows women to reclaim in

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<v Speaker 8>negative stereotype.

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<v Speaker 5>Was there a single phrase in this story that wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>jive bullcrap?

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, do you have any judgment on tramp stamps? Katie? Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't judge them.

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<v Speaker 9>No, but I do remember when I was going to

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<v Speaker 9>get my first tattoo, how I was told by everyone, Oh,

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<v Speaker 9>don't get it on your lower back. That's it was

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<v Speaker 9>the tramp stamp for the bumper sticker.

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<v Speaker 2>I noticed. And what is the famous movie, Uh, wedding

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<v Speaker 2>crashers might as well be a bullseye is the uh

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<v Speaker 2>but uh, it's crass. Well the reason I bring that

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<v Speaker 2>out but is crass is is that there was a

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<v Speaker 2>change there, even among women, because I know I've known

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<v Speaker 2>lots of women who don't have them and did have

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<v Speaker 2>judgment about them. So it wasn't universally accepted by women

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<v Speaker 2>as okay for a very long period of time, and

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<v Speaker 2>then it made the change to where it does denote

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<v Speaker 2>a certain personality type. Although I don't know that that's fair, Yes, Katie, Oh.

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<v Speaker 9>No, I was just this is taking me back all

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<v Speaker 9>of the things that I've heard it called and it's

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<v Speaker 9>not good.

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<v Speaker 5>Perhaps we could go through those on the podcast, Well

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<v Speaker 5>one more thing podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Unless their shirt pulls up or something like that, you

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<v Speaker 2>have to have a certain type of intimate moments even

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<v Speaker 2>recognize the fact that they have a tramp stamp.

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<v Speaker 3>So but beach. Sure you know a crop top.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. The term stramp tamp tramp stamp is often used

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<v Speaker 2>to shame women, and the term perpetuates harmful cultural stereo

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<v Speaker 2>types about their sexuality. It does say here it's important

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<v Speaker 2>to note that men who have tattoos on their lower

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<v Speaker 2>backs are rarely, if ever, subjected to the same judgment

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<v Speaker 2>or Derogarey terms.

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<v Speaker 3>Asking you're bringing everybody down.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, I think. I think if you. I think

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<v Speaker 2>if you're a dude and like you bent over the

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<v Speaker 2>mini fridge to get a beer out and your shirt

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<v Speaker 2>pulled up and everybody saw your tramp stamp, there would

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<v Speaker 2>be judgment.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't feel the judgments. Everybody would tell everybody, Oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, you know Darren.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Wouldn't photos videos, I like misclaiming that there's no judgment

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<v Speaker 2>for men. Nah, there would be no.

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<v Speaker 9>Just a guy friend of mine started dating this girl

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<v Speaker 9>and he realized she had a tramp stamp, and he said, oh,

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<v Speaker 9>I can't, she's got.

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<v Speaker 2>A beer coaster.

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<v Speaker 5>I refer to them as perdition inscriptions or prostitution illustrations.

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<v Speaker 5>Tump taking everything, so damn seriously, it's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>It is kind of funny though, that everything comes back

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<v Speaker 2>in style, including things that had a very negative connotation.

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<v Speaker 2>It's empowering, says the news story.

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<v Speaker 5>Women start taking back a negative stereotype.

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<v Speaker 9>That barbed wire tattoo across her lower back really shows power.

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<v Speaker 2>It's empowering.

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<v Speaker 3>So much horse crap?

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<v Speaker 2>Does everybody have the time to worry about this sort

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<v Speaker 2>of thing? Well, you're not young, you're not twenty two

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<v Speaker 2>years old.

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<v Speaker 3>Far from it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, stay with us more in the way.

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<v Speaker 10>Armstrong and Geddy with President Trump and President Vladimir Zelenski

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<v Speaker 10>reunited at his funeral to discuss an end to the

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<v Speaker 10>war in Ukraine. It was the first meeting between Trump

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<v Speaker 10>and Zelenski since that Oval Office eruption in February. March

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<v Speaker 10>of the US pressure had been brought to bear on Ukraine,

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<v Speaker 10>but this latest meeting triggered a shift from President Trump,

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<v Speaker 10>who now appears to be threatening sanctions against Vladimir Putin.

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<v Speaker 10>In a post on social media, he wondered if Putin

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<v Speaker 10>is just tapping me along and has to be dealt

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<v Speaker 10>with differently through banking or secondary sanctions. The White House

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<v Speaker 10>called Trump and Zelenski's Vatican face to face very productive,

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<v Speaker 10>Zelensky echoing that sentiment, saying it was a very symbolic

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<v Speaker 10>meeting that has potential to become historic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'd say that was something. If you haven't seen

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<v Speaker 2>the picture, it looked very impromptu, like they had grabbed

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of folding chairs and pulled him over in

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<v Speaker 2>the corner and it was just the two of them,

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<v Speaker 2>completely alone, having a conversation. Yeah, which I think is

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<v Speaker 2>a good thing, absolutely, especially given you know Bill Maher

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<v Speaker 2>talking about going to the White House and saying he

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<v Speaker 2>was so different. Trump was so different than he expected

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<v Speaker 2>him to be, and how more serial self aware he is,

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<v Speaker 2>and how he listened so much better, blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll bet I'll bet he and Zelensky had a very

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<v Speaker 2>real conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh to uh have a transcript to that, I'd be

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<v Speaker 5>so interested in it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And there's a reason Trump wanted that to be

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<v Speaker 2>away from everybody and anyway, so I'll read from the

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<v Speaker 2>post that they referenced there, very long post Trump put

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<v Speaker 2>out over the weekend bashing the New York Times for

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<v Speaker 2>their coverage of this and that and everything, and then

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<v Speaker 2>he gets to this all about Ukraine and the Russian

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<v Speaker 2>and the coverage. This is sleepy Joe Biden's war, not mine.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a loser from day one and should have

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<v Speaker 2>never happened, and wouldn't have happened if I were president

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<v Speaker 2>at the time. I'm just trying to clean up the

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<v Speaker 2>mess that was left to me by Obama and Biden,

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<v Speaker 2>and what a mess it is. With all that being said,

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<v Speaker 2>there was no reason for Putin to be shooting missiles

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<v Speaker 2>into civilian areas, cities, and towns over the last few days.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes me think that maybe he doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>stop the war. Maybe he's just tapping me along and

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<v Speaker 2>has to be dealt with differently through banking or secondary sanctions.

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<v Speaker 2>Too many people are dying. That was the most forthright

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<v Speaker 2>hint toward. Okay, the different way of handling Putin is coming.

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<v Speaker 5>What he said is true within without a shadow of

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<v Speaker 5>doubt that Putin's just been tapping him along. I've never

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<v Speaker 5>heard that expression, but yeah, I know what he means.

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<v Speaker 5>That's without question, Yeah, pretending he wants a piece talk

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<v Speaker 5>while he continues to kill civilians and gain inches of Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, oh on, Putin announced today probably because of this,

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<v Speaker 2>calling for a ceasefire for May eleventh through the thirteenth

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that. It's some big holiday they have

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<v Speaker 2>in Russia to celebrate the end of World War two.

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<v Speaker 2>But they should get the most credit for winning. By

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<v Speaker 2>the way, but he isn't going to do a ceasefire,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. He called for a ceasefire over Easter and

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<v Speaker 2>then attacked apartment complexes. So but that's what he does,

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<v Speaker 2>and he gets away with it a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>I've just got to equival slightly with your giving credit

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<v Speaker 5>to Russia for winning World War Two.

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<v Speaker 3>If it were not for.

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<v Speaker 5>Hitler deciding to invade, especially in the chilly weather, months

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<v Speaker 5>might have gone very, very differently. But anyway, true, that's

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<v Speaker 5>not a quibbal, just a good lord talk about your

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<v Speaker 5>bad decisions.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I find it so difficult to figure out Trump's motives

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<v Speaker 5>at times, especially because he's pretty mercure and change his

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<v Speaker 5>direction in a way that I find disconcerting.

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<v Speaker 3>But if he has as.

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<v Speaker 5>A hardcore humanitarian belief that the war is feutile and

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<v Speaker 5>must end because too many good people are dying, and

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<v Speaker 5>he thinks my one goal is ending the dying, I

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<v Speaker 5>get putting enormous pressure on Zelensky because if you were

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<v Speaker 5>to look at this as an independent analyst, and I've

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<v Speaker 5>been tasked. I'm working for one of the big consulting firms,

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<v Speaker 5>KPMG or something like that. They say, Joe, we need

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<v Speaker 5>you to put together a report on how to end

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<v Speaker 5>this war. One of the things I would say is

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<v Speaker 5>the Ukrainians want to fight to the death. They are

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<v Speaker 5>not going to end this war until they get the

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<v Speaker 5>country back, and that's extremely illegal and so and I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not arguing in favor of this. I'm just trying to

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<v Speaker 5>understand it so I could see where Trump would go

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<v Speaker 5>into the process thinking, the one thing I gotta do

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<v Speaker 5>is talk to Zelensky into fighting to the death, talking

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<v Speaker 5>him out of fighting to the death until all of

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<v Speaker 5>their ground is regained, because that's never gonna happen. And

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<v Speaker 5>that's gonna be a tough nut to crack because there

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<v Speaker 5>are proud people. Might that explain his rhetoric. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know why you have to say he started the war.

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<v Speaker 3>That's still looney to him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and he said it he'd get over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh and yet another end.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying. I'm trying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't get that at all. I sure would

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<v Speaker 2>like him to call Pootin out as an evil, evil

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<v Speaker 2>bastard because he is. He's one of the worst people

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<v Speaker 2>on planet Earth. And similar to Ron Reagan saying evil

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<v Speaker 2>empire and various things like that, you gotta call out

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<v Speaker 2>evil where you where it exists. AnyWho, I was listening

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<v Speaker 2>to the Dispatch podcast over the weekend. We're fans of

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<v Speaker 2>the Dispatch around here, and they had a really interesting

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<v Speaker 2>conversation about Trump's worldview and politics, a couple of things

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<v Speaker 2>that I'd never heard before. They're not Trump fans around there,

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<v Speaker 2>but one of the things he said, I think David

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<v Speaker 2>French of The New York Times brought this up that

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<v Speaker 2>Trump is, by any definition, a really good politician. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how you would define good politician. But

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<v Speaker 2>he got elected president twice, and that third time he ran,

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<v Speaker 2>he lost eighty thousand votes, so I know, with no

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<v Speaker 2>experience whatsoever. So but I think this is very, very

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<v Speaker 2>true that one thing Trump probably sensed throughout his business career,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, funding all politicians of different stripes for a

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<v Speaker 2>variety of reasons, is that these people don't actually stand

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<v Speaker 2>up for what they believe in. They are I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if cowards is fair, they're more they're more practical.

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<v Speaker 2>That's better than saying cowards they're ripped with pillion. They're

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<v Speaker 2>way more practical than they let on that they are.

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<v Speaker 2>And and he has made that work in the Republican

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<v Speaker 2>Party with people you know who who've said all kinds

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<v Speaker 2>of nasty things about him or say they won't go

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<v Speaker 2>along with this or that. But what it comes down to,

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<v Speaker 2>do I want to stay in office or not. They

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<v Speaker 2>choose stay in office over whatever belief they had. And

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<v Speaker 2>then Steve Hayes of The Dispatch weighed in with his

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<v Speaker 2>decades of covering Washington, d C. Saying he learned over

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<v Speaker 2>the years a lot of these people the stuff that

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<v Speaker 2>they claimed they believe, they didn't believe that much anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>So you got the combination of, even if I really

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<v Speaker 2>believe something, I'd still rather keep my job than resign,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah or lose. And two a lot of them didn't

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<v Speaker 2>believe it in the first place. It just seemed like

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<v Speaker 2>the best way to get elected. You know, TEA party

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<v Speaker 2>was hot. So I'll claim H'm from small, small government,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't actually care. I just want to be

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<v Speaker 2>in office. And I think we would all be better

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<v Speaker 2>off if we recognized that that was true, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not saying at all, this is just a Republican party.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember Laurence O'Donnell, who I can't stand of MSNBC,

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<v Speaker 2>but he was He worked in the Senate for many,

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<v Speaker 2>many years, and I remember him saying geez a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of decades ago. Now on Chris matthews Show, Chris Matthews

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<v Speaker 2>brought up the idea of these Democratic senators fighting for

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<v Speaker 2>this or that, and Lawrence O'Donnell, who had been the

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<v Speaker 2>behind the scenes guy at the Senate for a very

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<v Speaker 2>long time, said, I've never seen a senator fight for anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I'm just telling you that, I've never seen

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<v Speaker 2>one fight for anything ever.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>You vote for it or work for it if you

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<v Speaker 2>think it'll keep you in office, or you can do

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<v Speaker 2>it without losing. But if it comes down to I

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<v Speaker 2>want to stay elected, that's your choice.

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<v Speaker 3>Always.

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<v Speaker 2>Wouldn't we all be better off if we recognize that

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<v Speaker 2>that's the way it works. Also my third point, and

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<v Speaker 2>this didn't come up in the podcast. I think this

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<v Speaker 2>all the time. I think people throw around way too casually,

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<v Speaker 2>the idea of standing up for your principles at the

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<v Speaker 2>risk of getting booted out of office, or you should resign.

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<v Speaker 2>If you feel that way, how likely you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>resign from your job? And then all of us sudden

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<v Speaker 2>you got no job and you got to come up

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<v Speaker 2>with an entire new life plan for how you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to make your house payment, you know, support your kids,

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah. I mean, that's it's way easy to

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<v Speaker 2>say of these politicians that they should have more guts

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<v Speaker 2>with their job, when most of us would do a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of things to make sure we don't lose our careers.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's even more complicated than that, I think, because

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<v Speaker 5>if I believed in X, whatever issue, you can pick

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<v Speaker 5>one of my many jihads. If I believe in X,

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<v Speaker 5>and I'm just not able to get X done, and

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<v Speaker 5>I sense that if I keep hammering on X, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>going to lose my office. I might really truly believe

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<v Speaker 5>in issue X and think, you know what, let me

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<v Speaker 5>get another term, and I'm going to keep plugging.

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<v Speaker 3>But I got to be cool about it. For now.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true and a very charitable view. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how that's just true in a certain percentage. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how much of it is that I think

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<v Speaker 2>there's an awful lot of I will just I just

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<v Speaker 2>I figure out a way to get elected, and now

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to stay in office. That's about all I

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<v Speaker 2>ever think.

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<v Speaker 3>About this one. Yeah, yeah, of.

0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:11.080
<v Speaker 2>Which Trump understood in a way that I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people do. And he thought, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if I have, if I'm in a position where they

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<v Speaker 2>got to go along with me or they might lose,

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to go along with me.

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<v Speaker 3>And He's been right a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>And if they've said horrendous things about me in the past,

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<v Speaker 5>it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 2>That mean what they think do they They may have

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<v Speaker 2>believed that and now they got to keep their mouth shut,

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<v Speaker 2>or they didn't believe that at the time they were

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<v Speaker 2>they misread the room and thought being against me was

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<v Speaker 2>their best option.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, or they're just a little late to the party.

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<v Speaker 5>Either way, they're useful to me now. So much of

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<v Speaker 5>politics is just transactional.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, and the more you realize that, and the more

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<v Speaker 5>quote unquote cynical you become, the smarter you are.

0:27:53.960 --> 0:27:59.040
<v Speaker 3>Because the whole scam is I.

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<v Speaker 5>Believe firmly in these things, and I will lead you

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<v Speaker 5>because I care about you. That's the scam. Now you

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<v Speaker 5>got a guy like Rand Paul. He actually believes what

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<v Speaker 5>he says. I don't know if it's one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 5>or eighty percent or whatever, but he's a guy with

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<v Speaker 5>a mission, a massy from Texas. He believes what he says.

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<v Speaker 5>There are a couple of more, but just a couple

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<v Speaker 5>other than that. No, they're just they're they're a tool

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<v Speaker 5>to get what you want done as a voter, and

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<v Speaker 5>if they don't get it done, then they're a bad tool.

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<v Speaker 5>Try another tool. But they are not a savior.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>How many of the people who pitch fiscal conservatism or

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, let's do the democrat side, you know,

0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:48.960
<v Speaker 2>some of their we got to help the working people

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever. The crab it's just that's just what they

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<v Speaker 2>think keeps him in office. They don't They don't think

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<v Speaker 2>about it or care about it really at all. Be

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of them.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Yeah, there's fun line between or a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>gray area, I should say, between just pandering not having

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<v Speaker 5>any beliefs, and crafting what you say about your beliefs

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<v Speaker 5>so you get a chance to stay in office and

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<v Speaker 5>enact them someday. I mean, where does one start and

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<v Speaker 5>the other one end. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>But as they pointed out, and I think is true,

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's great talent might be he realized this to a level.

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<v Speaker 2>Most people don't understand that these people have no convictions

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<v Speaker 2>and staying in their job is their main priority. Times ten, yes, yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 5>And you can get them to dance to your tune

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<v Speaker 5>if you are utterly heartless about primarying of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Or right right? Have you right? It's pretty interesting. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a disgusting, although you know the old saying it's the

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<v Speaker 2>worst system except for every other one tried, which is

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<v Speaker 2>still true. We will finish strong next time, arm strong?

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<v Speaker 11>Yet?

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<v Speaker 5>Do you have a cup? Pop cup?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely? I hear your pop asking for it.

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<v Speaker 3>He's actually a rooster.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for bringing him ahead. What's his name?

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<v Speaker 3>Fluffy?

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<v Speaker 2>That's so cute?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you got girl?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, this chicken t get a picture?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah my day behind.

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<v Speaker 2>That made you day. That made your day. Somebody bringing

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<v Speaker 2>a rooster through the drive through at Starbucks? That made

0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:44.120
<v Speaker 2>your day? Okay, a rooster named Fluffy? That made my day.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I love.

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<v Speaker 9>Your Oh my gosh, chicken.

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<v Speaker 2>The whole pop cup thing. They're all chicken I find

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<v Speaker 2>the whole pup cup thing, you know, Like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I like dogs, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Just what I would have got a lot works.

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<v Speaker 9>I would have gotten a lot more joy out of

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<v Speaker 9>that clip if the chick would have been like, no, no,

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<v Speaker 9>that's not a pup, So you can have no pup cups.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can't have barnyard animal.

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<v Speaker 5>We don't have chicken cups here at Starbucks have rules,

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<v Speaker 5>we have standards.

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<v Speaker 2>Made your day with your chicken made day. All the

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<v Speaker 2>things that could make my day. Seeing a rooster in

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<v Speaker 2>the drive through would not be it.

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<v Speaker 9>There's so many jokes that could be made about those

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<v Speaker 9>girls going, oh my god about a rooster.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, wow, wow, Well let's roll on. It's a new

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<v Speaker 5>Armstrong and Getty feature at women in their beverages.

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<v Speaker 11>I leaned in to take a sip and I noticed

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<v Speaker 11>that something hit me on the forehead and I looked

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<v Speaker 11>at my husband like what was that? And when I

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<v Speaker 11>turned around, I saw the snake in my margarita and

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<v Speaker 11>I just jumped away from the bar. At that point,

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<v Speaker 11>there was moving. It started wrapping around my straw. They

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<v Speaker 11>grabbed stick trying to get it, and I was just like, please,

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<v Speaker 11>don't let it with my purse. Another man that was

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<v Speaker 11>having dinner on the other side of the bar came

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<v Speaker 11>and he grabbed it and took it out. I left

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<v Speaker 11>shaking like I was traumatized.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a woman who found a snake in her margarita.

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<v Speaker 2>I gathered that.

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<v Speaker 9>She there is something hit her in the forehead. So

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<v Speaker 9>she turned around and asked her husband.

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<v Speaker 2>What was that? And it was a snake on her straw.

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<v Speaker 2>This didn't happen how big she was.

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<v Speaker 5>She was sipping it and perhaps had her eyes closed,

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<v Speaker 5>and then the snake leapt out of the margarita. The

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<v Speaker 5>way they didn't hit her somehow, you know, the way

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<v Speaker 5>margarita will hoooped her in the forehead, her eyes being closed.

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<v Speaker 3>She had to turn to her man.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm with you, Katie. I think she brought

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<v Speaker 2>a snake to the bar or whatever threw it in

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<v Speaker 2>her margarita, hopeing and become a reality star or something.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm strong, I'm strong, You're ready, Katie Green strong.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew

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<v Speaker 5>to wrap things up for the day. There he is

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<v Speaker 5>pressing the buttons. Michael Angelo. What's your final thought, Michael. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm trying to think if I had a tramp stamp,

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<v Speaker 5>what it would say or what it would be, So

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<v Speaker 5>I guess it would be Kirkling signature.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, wow, affordable luxury.

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<v Speaker 3>Michael, I hear you.

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<v Speaker 5>Katie Green are esteemed to use woman as a final thought, Katie.

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<v Speaker 9>Michael and I are on the same page today because

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<v Speaker 9>I just text message to my tattoo artist and he's

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<v Speaker 9>going to drop a mock Armstrong and Getty tramp stamp.

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<v Speaker 2>I like it, except I don't think HR lets us

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<v Speaker 2>look at it so we can't see it ever.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, too bad, jack. Final thought for us.

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<v Speaker 2>My youngest was at boy scout camp all weekend, so

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<v Speaker 2>my oldest and I went off to San Francisco and

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<v Speaker 2>split the weekend together. We hadn't done any thing just

0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:02.120
<v Speaker 2>the two of us in so long, which is a

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<v Speaker 2>crime shame. It was so freaking awesome. And he's fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>and a half when he'll be gone soon, And uh.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah, that's beautiful. I love that. My final thought.

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<v Speaker 5>I was looking at the reviews of this audio video

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<v Speaker 5>company see if I should hire them, and I noticed

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<v Speaker 5>there's one one star review and I went to it

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<v Speaker 5>and it reads terrible. I purchased to use Lexus and

0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:25.920
<v Speaker 5>had it delivered. Huge mistake. Paid over four thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 5>for the warranty. I was guaranteed the car was in

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<v Speaker 5>prime shape. Never do business with these people. It's like,

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<v Speaker 5>wait a minute, a car. This is the wrong business. Google,

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<v Speaker 5>What are you doing? Why is that review still there?

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<v Speaker 5>S dragging down the ratings? They're not a car dealer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's one of the complaints people in businesses have

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<v Speaker 2>about the whole Google review. You'll previews, et cetera. Armstrong

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<v Speaker 2>and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Many people, thanks so little time.

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<v Speaker 5>Go to Armstrong and Getdy dot com for the hot

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<v Speaker 5>links for Katie's corner drops. Note if there's something we

0:34:56.560 --> 0:34:58.680
<v Speaker 5>want to be talking about, send it along to mailbag

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<v Speaker 2>See tomorrow. God bless America.

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<v Speaker 3>I read President Trump's the Move with the aunt to

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<v Speaker 3>make I'm Strong and Getty. What do we want to

0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:10.280
<v Speaker 3>be losers or winners?

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<v Speaker 2>I want winners. I think you're star spangled as so good.

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<v Speaker 5>You know what.

0:35:14.760 --> 0:35:17.360
<v Speaker 2>Everyone knows that, So let's go with a buying it

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<v Speaker 2>needs a name.

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<v Speaker 5>The beaver pox or raccoon flow or I don't know,

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<v Speaker 5>pigeon fever.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I like beef Box by Bye Armstrong and Getty