WEBVTT - "Charles Xavier is a Jerk?"

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<v Speaker 1>Warning, Today's episode contains spoilers for X Men ninety seven

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<v Speaker 1>and the wider X Men comics Cannon.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Jaconceptium and I'm rosday Night, and welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to x Revision, the podcast where we dive deep

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<v Speaker 1>to your favorite shows, movies, comics and pop culture. Coming

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<v Speaker 1>episodes a week every Tuesday Thursday.

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<v Speaker 3>In today's episode, in the previously on, we're ripping our

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<v Speaker 3>Canuk claws into all the X Men and Marvel News

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<v Speaker 3>you can shake a Wolverine at In the airlock, we

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<v Speaker 3>are diving into that wild X Men season one finale

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<v Speaker 3>with special guests and expert Stephanie Williams. In the omnibus,

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to dig into the best comics to read

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<v Speaker 3>after X Men ninety seven, why they're important, and where

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<v Speaker 3>they fit into X Men history.

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<v Speaker 4>But first, it's a previously on.

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<v Speaker 5>First up.

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<v Speaker 1>New Dazzler, Storm and Avengers titles have been announced by

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<v Speaker 1>Marvel Comics on the app formerly known as Twitter and

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<v Speaker 1>other social media feeds. Your thoughts Rosy about this, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's cool.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad to see Dazzler getting her shine me and

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<v Speaker 3>Nick recently all the Dazzler Original Comics series. The covers

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<v Speaker 3>are amazing, the issues are you know, Okay, So I'd

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<v Speaker 3>like to see I get a good solo series. I

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<v Speaker 3>want to see Storm get that solo series. We have

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<v Speaker 3>Stephanie Williams later. If they were going to pick someone

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<v Speaker 3>to write that Storm series, I would hope it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be steph It's going to be interesting to see

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<v Speaker 3>them launch this from the Ashes era, which is kind

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<v Speaker 3>of this new X Men era. The interesting thing is

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<v Speaker 3>we also learned that Storm is going to be joining

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<v Speaker 3>the Avengers. In Avenger seventeen. They called her Earth's My

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<v Speaker 3>Ears mutant. I'm down for that. I totally believe it.

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<v Speaker 3>Someone in our discord made a great point though. This

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<v Speaker 3>means there are going to be eleven titles in the

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<v Speaker 3>X line if you include X Men, Uncanny, X Men Extraordinary,

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<v Speaker 3>X Men, Phoenix, X Force, NYX, Wolverine, and then these

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<v Speaker 3>new books.

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<v Speaker 4>So that seems like a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>But from what I've been reading, it's not necessarily a

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<v Speaker 3>you have to read everything.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's more of a jumping on point. So

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<v Speaker 4>what of the books you're most excited to see?

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<v Speaker 1>Gosh I am an X Men always, X Men and

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<v Speaker 1>Uncanny are gonna remain my mainstays as usual, and then

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<v Speaker 1>Phoenix Storm X Force are probably the ones that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna concentrate on, and They'm gonna dabble in the rest.

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<v Speaker 1>But honestly, this, I mean it feels like the nineties

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<v Speaker 1>again when there is suddenly an explosion of X spinoff

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<v Speaker 1>books with X Factor and Yx and all the others

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<v Speaker 1>and new mutants, and so it's giving me nineties vibes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, which I can never complain about because we're nineties babies.

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<v Speaker 4>So very fun.

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<v Speaker 1>New Marvel release dates from The Hollywood Reporter. Daredevil Born

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<v Speaker 1>Again will be seen in March twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 5>Very interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Agatha all Long The Scarlet which spinoff series will be

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<v Speaker 1>on September eighteenth, iron Heart not canceled, Shotgan hitting the

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<v Speaker 1>screens next year, and then Marvel Television has been rebranded

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<v Speaker 1>branded again as Marvel Television, joins Marvel Studios, Marvel Spotlight,

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<v Speaker 1>Marvel Animation and Special Presentations. If those are still acting.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it does this take those over who knows?

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<v Speaker 5>But good for the sea.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And also I'm a big fan of the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>Agatha All Along has had so many different names, and

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<v Speaker 3>it feels like this name is like a final joke

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<v Speaker 3>because they kept renaming it, but it was just.

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<v Speaker 4>Agatha all along. And I'm excited that that's going to

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<v Speaker 4>hit this year.

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<v Speaker 3>We weren't expecting that to happen, so that'll be a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of fun to cover.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up stepping out of their lock and talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the finale of X Men ninety seven.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Stephanie Williams is a cultural critic, superstar, meme maker,

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<v Speaker 3>and writer behind some of your favorite comics like Nubier

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<v Speaker 3>and the Amazons, Living Heroes, Mungo and Devil, Dinosaur, Rock

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<v Speaker 3>and Roll, and more. She's also a world class Charles

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<v Speaker 3>Xavier hater and X Men expert, so the perfect guest

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<v Speaker 3>for this episode.

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<v Speaker 6>Hello Stephanie, Hey, I am so happy to be here

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<v Speaker 6>because I have not been on the app formerly known

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<v Speaker 6>as Twitter. I haven't been able to like really you know,

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<v Speaker 6>like shout from the rooftops. I was right this whole time.

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<v Speaker 4>You were like, I need people to know it's not

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<v Speaker 4>originally Charles hater.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been here, they're seeing the lights. Finally they're seeing

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<v Speaker 1>I must admit people. People will post it us and

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<v Speaker 1>messages like Charles has Charles had always been this.

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<v Speaker 4>Naive Yes, I never forget.

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<v Speaker 3>In the Discord, one of our amazing Discord members was like, so,

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<v Speaker 3>wait a minute, is Charles like not a good guy?

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<v Speaker 3>And everyone in the Discord just went boom every Everyone's

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<v Speaker 3>like there were seats, there were seats, there were seats

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<v Speaker 3>like this matter mistakes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a good thing Charles can implant thoughts to people's

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<v Speaker 1>minds because his actual arguments are not good.

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<v Speaker 4>They're not good man, He's struggling. Steph.

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<v Speaker 3>Before we get into the season finale and recap it

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<v Speaker 3>and get into all the good topics, what was your

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<v Speaker 3>X Men origin story? So?

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<v Speaker 6>My x Men origin story was at the laundry meat Uh.

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<v Speaker 6>So there was a laundrymat that we would sometimes go

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<v Speaker 6>to and there was a I think it's Marble versus

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<v Speaker 6>Capcom or Marble Marble versus Street Fighter, one of the two.

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<v Speaker 6>And I just remember always picking Storm and like Typhoon,

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<v Speaker 6>Typhoon all day long. And I, yes, I know, he

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<v Speaker 6>couldn't stand whenever I would come in there, because it

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<v Speaker 6>was either that or turtles and time and turtles and time.

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<v Speaker 2>No. So that was kind of the.

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<v Speaker 6>Thing that made me say, oh, this game that I

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<v Speaker 6>enjoy playing when I have to go to the laundry mat.

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<v Speaker 6>There's a show on TV that comes on Fox and

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<v Speaker 6>sometimes episodes come on after school. So I started watching

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<v Speaker 6>the actual show and it was just love ever since.

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<v Speaker 6>And then very early on I said, Man, this man

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<v Speaker 6>in this really ugly green suit and tie.

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<v Speaker 2>I do not like him.

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<v Speaker 4>You were you were like this, it's board headed by Nest.

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<v Speaker 4>Something wrong with him.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, I remember the episode where he told with Verreen, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 6>you can't handle your business with saber Tooth. But then

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<v Speaker 6>by the end of it was like wanted them to

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<v Speaker 6>go fight Magneto, and it's just like, sir, what when

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<v Speaker 6>the Joel olste.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean you've written extensively at you about how bad

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<v Speaker 3>Charles is and his history, so as we get into

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<v Speaker 3>the finale discussion, you must be feeling quite vindicated because

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<v Speaker 3>he does come through at the end, but he also

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<v Speaker 3>makes some some killer classic Charles's mistakes, classic classic Charles mistakes.

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<v Speaker 2>I celebrated.

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<v Speaker 6>I did, like I always joke about him going on

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<v Speaker 6>that that Tom Joiner morning Cruise out of Space to

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<v Speaker 6>be like with Llandra, and he just left his kids.

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<v Speaker 6>He said good luck to y'all. Yes, I'm out here.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I want to be nasty with birds.

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<v Speaker 3>So, like you said, I'd been making love and drinking wine,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, she's just getting.

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<v Speaker 4>Destroyed, like and he just even admits it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we talked about it in our Tuesday episode. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that episode of X Men ninety seven really crystallized

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<v Speaker 1>the problem with Charles. You know, Magneto and Charles's kids,

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<v Speaker 1>Charles's family are fighting off active extinction at the hands

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<v Speaker 1>of Bastian. The world's governments are like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>we could do something, but we won't, just like we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do anything about Genosha. We've got the Avengers, but

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<v Speaker 1>should we really have them do something about this? No,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just sit back and watch it happen. Magneto decided

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<v Speaker 1>to do something, turned off all the electricity in the

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<v Speaker 1>word because it was an emergency, had to make a

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<v Speaker 1>wartime decision. And then Charles shows up. He's been on

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<v Speaker 1>vacation in space with his girl ruling an empire. Comes back,

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<v Speaker 1>has no idea the context, what's been going on. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just like, hey, turn the power back on.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait what as we see in this episode? Terrible idea,

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<v Speaker 3>like that was your plan.

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<v Speaker 1>Charles, Well, Steph, we're delighted to have you here as

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<v Speaker 1>we recap this episode, So let's get into it. X

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<v Speaker 1>Men ninety seven Survival is Extinction, Part three, the season

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<v Speaker 1>one X Men ninety seven finale. We open an asteroid

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<v Speaker 1>m where Charles has burrowed deep into Magneto Psyche as

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<v Speaker 1>he loves to do, in an attempt to get Magnus

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<v Speaker 1>to heal Earth's magnetic field and turn the power back on,

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<v Speaker 1>which I just want to say, I would love to

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<v Speaker 1>see the power back on. I just don't think you

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<v Speaker 1>do it unilaterally without getting anything back to the Yeah, something,

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<v Speaker 1>hey promise to rein in the Sentinels and we'll turn

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<v Speaker 1>the power back you just you anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe go around and you know, collect up the prime sentinels.

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<v Speaker 4>So they don't just come back on.

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<v Speaker 3>Like maybe get a little bit of like a promutant

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<v Speaker 3>legislation written into law, just something.

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<v Speaker 4>But Charles is like, now, just turn it on.

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<v Speaker 1>How about give us Trask and all the team behind

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<v Speaker 1>the Sentinels and let us bring them to justice. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>Charles in the end takes control of Magneto's powers and

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<v Speaker 1>he just does it himself. Power is turned on across

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<v Speaker 1>the globe. The Bashian bots reactivate, and Bashian is as

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<v Speaker 1>powerful as ever. He's triumphant. He holds gold Team prisoner.

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<v Speaker 1>He is this guy loves no one, but it's really

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<v Speaker 1>bashing and Charles. Those two love to make a speech,

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<v Speaker 1>don't they.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, what is this like? Is this the talk hour?

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<v Speaker 6>Re?

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<v Speaker 5>You're a way to work.

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<v Speaker 6>You're on your way to work, all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 6>you can't go because the power's all out. So you're

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<v Speaker 6>you're waiting at this and he's like, well, I guess

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<v Speaker 6>I'm going back home, but you're not because Charles has

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<v Speaker 6>turned the power back on. And now somewhere off you

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<v Speaker 6>got this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Who is just waxing poetically about all the things. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just like, I shut up and do the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Just kill us, Yeah, just kill talking.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to know about it.

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<v Speaker 5>So a Bastian is.

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<v Speaker 1>Telling us all about his philosophy, which is essentially tolerance,

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<v Speaker 1>his extension. He wants to he understanding that mutants evolved

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<v Speaker 1>from humankind, why not go straight to the root and

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<v Speaker 1>kill everybody?

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<v Speaker 5>That's his plan? Uh much too Sinister's disappointment.

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<v Speaker 1>Bastian is about to start with Nathan, who he has

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<v Speaker 1>once upon a time promised to give to mister Sinister.

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<v Speaker 1>But then Jean, with the very convenient power of the

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<v Speaker 1>phoenix awakened inside of her, emerges and she just cleans house.

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<v Speaker 4>I just have to.

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<v Speaker 3>Say, Bastian really manifested this when he said, Jean Madeline

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<v Speaker 3>never the phoenix just dead. I was like, bro, as

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<v Speaker 3>soon as you say that the phoenix has comment, you

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<v Speaker 3>changed yourself.

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<v Speaker 6>The phoenix was in the middle of a delicious meal

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<v Speaker 6>of some galaxy somewhere and like heard that and said

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<v Speaker 6>I'll be back.

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<v Speaker 2>Minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Phoenix reassembles the technopathy inhibiting collar that Hank and Forge

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<v Speaker 1>designed and puts it on Bashian's head. She then deliciously

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<v Speaker 1>pulls all of mister Sinister's ac crude mutant DNA that

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<v Speaker 1>he has used to keep himself looking like he gets

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<v Speaker 1>twice a year laser and botox and everything. All his

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful skitty shrivels up into an old husk. He asks, Wharf,

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<v Speaker 1>what do I look like?

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 5>Show me.

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<v Speaker 1>Wharf shows up and Sinister flees it far it. What

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<v Speaker 1>a what a beautiful denu.

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<v Speaker 5>Of it for mister.

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<v Speaker 3>I also love this idea that you can use wolf

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<v Speaker 3>as a mirror, like Sinister just shook show me what

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<v Speaker 3>I look like, and mof just doesn't. And I'm okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I love that for you. I'm most like looks the

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<v Speaker 3>same to me and said, this is like crying with

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<v Speaker 3>his big bold head walking off it fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so top tier that mister Sinister's entire mission in life,

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<v Speaker 1>the mutant Massacre, everything he's done is just to keep

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<v Speaker 1>himself looking cute, just looking by fat.

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<v Speaker 2>I want that.

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<v Speaker 6>I want that remake. I want this remake Sinister. He

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<v Speaker 6>has a plan or whatever, or maybe it's someone else

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<v Speaker 6>and it's it's death becomes him and it's Sinister and

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<v Speaker 6>someone else.

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<v Speaker 4>Stephan, that's your next backup story, no question.

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<v Speaker 2>That makes him come on for Black History too. I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 1>So Bashian can't interface with other machines and other people anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>but he is still powerful. He tears off Cable's arm,

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<v Speaker 1>feeds him with to builds himself a set of armor

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<v Speaker 1>and wings, and he flies off to Asteroid X. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>he beats him so terribly, really really awfully, like he

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<v Speaker 1>owed him.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty dollars, You owe me twenty dollars.

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<v Speaker 5>Meet down well, he was annoyed.

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<v Speaker 1>He was annoyed that Nathan keeps trying to go back

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<v Speaker 1>in time and kill him, and we learned that he's

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<v Speaker 1>Nathan's tried this two hundred times, it's yet to succeed,

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<v Speaker 1>and clearly that got on Bashian sturves.

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<v Speaker 4>Bastan's sick of him.

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<v Speaker 1>So Bashan flies off to Asteroid X and his plan

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<v Speaker 1>is to crash it into Earth and kill everybody on

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<v Speaker 1>the asteroid. Charles is continuing his mission inside Magnus's mind

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<v Speaker 1>now after hijacking his powers, Magnus's psyche is fragmented and

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<v Speaker 1>he's trying to heal it and rebuild it all at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time.

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<v Speaker 5>If he fails, but.

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<v Speaker 7>That was his own problem. I just need to say

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<v Speaker 7>that this is the problem with Charles. Everything in this

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<v Speaker 7>episode is his own doing. If he didn't mind wipe

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<v Speaker 7>his boyfriend who By the way, I know that Bodomeo

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<v Speaker 7>and the team.

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<v Speaker 3>Were having a lot of fun in this episode because

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<v Speaker 3>there's so many moments when they almost kiss, like they're

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<v Speaker 3>like right up against each other, and he's like, remember me, Magnus,

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<v Speaker 3>remember me. Remember you wouldn't need to remember if you

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<v Speaker 3>did a mind I won't.

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<v Speaker 5>I won't leave you.

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<v Speaker 1>I won't leave you to the cold waters alone, Magnus.

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<v Speaker 1>I will remain here exactly embracing you to the end.

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<v Speaker 4>And it sweeps me underneath with you. I'm like, we

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<v Speaker 4>get it.

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<v Speaker 2>You're in love.

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<v Speaker 7>Guys like, but stop mind wiping each other as creepy.

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<v Speaker 5>You're exactly right, Rosie.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Charles's m O, which is hey, uh, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, I don't mess with people's minds unless I

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely have to asterisk, Yes, I do, and then later

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<v Speaker 1>on people find out about it and it causes all problems. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeane mind links with Scott to warn him that Bashian

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<v Speaker 1>is coming. Blue Team defends the asteroid against Fashion, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was just wonderful to watch Rogue get some wix in.

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<v Speaker 6>Whenever she puts on that green suit, look out, it's

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<v Speaker 6>time to get trying.

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<v Speaker 1>To get real busy, and she was working some things

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<v Speaker 1>out against Fashion.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, flying him all the way through space, flies into

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<v Speaker 3>the moon. I did expect city and humans. I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>gonna lie. When they landed on the moon, I thought

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<v Speaker 3>black Boat was gonna come out and be giving him

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<v Speaker 3>like a stinki.

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<v Speaker 2>Moon, like in the middle of a washing.

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<v Speaker 4>She was like, yeah, like, look at her cap at

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<v Speaker 4>the moon, just like, nah, I'm good. You guys know what.

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<v Speaker 2>The time keeps going off.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, someone's outside. It looks like the X Men again

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<v Speaker 1>and somebody else.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll just leave it.

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<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, you know, Lockjaw barking like crazy at the door,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I much.

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<v Speaker 6>Crystals somewhere cheating on the other side of the castle,

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<v Speaker 6>her new flavor at the.

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<v Speaker 1>Mom Meanwhile, President Kelly is in the Situation Room and

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<v Speaker 1>over the incredibly limp protests of Captain America, the dog

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<v Speaker 1>on a leash, who will once again not do the

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<v Speaker 1>right thing because he's been ordered not to do, and

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<v Speaker 1>to Chilah, who, to be fair, actually talks some ship

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<v Speaker 1>to President Kelly, the Magneto protocols are enacted and missiles

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<v Speaker 1>are launched at Asteroid M. Un Missiles Gold Team arrives

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<v Speaker 1>on Asteroid M in a sentinel just in time to

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<v Speaker 1>stop Bashian. Scott then tries, inspired by the hope and

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<v Speaker 1>the dream of Charles Xavier, tries to turn bash In

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<v Speaker 1>towards the X Men's side to make him realize once

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<v Speaker 1>and for all, Hey, you're like us, You're a mutant,

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<v Speaker 1>like us, just a different kind of mutant. Why don't

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<v Speaker 1>you stop this crazy thing that you're trying to do.

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<v Speaker 1>That it wasn't gonna work, Okay, of course.

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<v Speaker 4>Not if it was that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, Sorr, are you serious right now? His arm

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<v Speaker 2>is missing peace right?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, of course it would not have worked. But we'll

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<v Speaker 1>never find out because just then the un missile slam

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<v Speaker 1>into Asteroid M, proving.

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<v Speaker 5>Bastion right, honestly, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Bastian is sucked into the now destroyed gravity core of

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<v Speaker 1>Asteroid M, he disappears, and Magneto's base hurdles towards Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>Hank comes up with a way that they can maybe

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<v Speaker 1>save Earth if they all kind of use their powers

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<v Speaker 1>to slow the asteroid from slamming into Earth. But of

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<v Speaker 1>course this probably means they're all going to die. Geene

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<v Speaker 1>and Scott mind link with Nathan to say goodbye, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually it's a really touching moment.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually, yeah, Charles, because is a deadbeat dad.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean just like his dad, you know the apple.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Right falls on the other side of the galaxy, but

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<v Speaker 1>but spiritually not that far, okay. Charles finally manages to

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<v Speaker 1>reach Magnus by showing him the people that he cares

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<v Speaker 1>about that could.

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<v Speaker 5>Bring him back to Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>And so Magnus sees on a boat rogue his hot

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<v Speaker 1>young girlfriend, and then also on the boat, but in

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<v Speaker 1>shadow all his children, Scarletwitch, Silver, lorda Dade, his flesh

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<v Speaker 1>and blood kids who do not have even a fraction

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<v Speaker 1>of the power to be guile his mind and bring

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<v Speaker 1>him back to himself. Then then rogue because I guess

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<v Speaker 1>that that Cajun stuff be yanked, because.

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<v Speaker 8>That's the secondaryation, because what she said, your children like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>forget to forget your kid.

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<v Speaker 6>He can't.

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<v Speaker 2>With the white streaks in her hair.

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<v Speaker 5>He's like, rogue, that's right, that's right. I am Magnus,

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<v Speaker 5>and I pulled that.

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<v Speaker 4>I pulled that.

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<v Speaker 5>That's my girlfriend at your child's Xavier. I must come

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<v Speaker 5>back to myself.

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<v Speaker 1>And so Magneto awakens, He lives, He's gotta get back

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<v Speaker 1>to that. He powers up, stops Asteroid and which suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>disappears sucked into I guess the vortex caused by the

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<v Speaker 1>gravity core. The X Men disappear with it and they

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<v Speaker 1>are presumed dead. And in this moment, I'm thinking, are

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<v Speaker 1>we going to Australia?

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<v Speaker 5>Are we gonna be in Australia.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I like that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, no, yeah, we Godfather, We're going way for

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<v Speaker 3>somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>The X Men have been thrown across time. Rogue, Hank,

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<v Speaker 1>Charles Magneto, and Nightcrawler find themselves in ancient Egypt, where,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, they encounter the mutant who will soon be

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<v Speaker 1>known as Apocalypse. And then in the far future, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>Scott and Jean meet future versions of their family members,

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<v Speaker 1>namely Mother Askani, leader of Klan Askani, who is a

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<v Speaker 1>alternate version of Rachel Summers, their daughter, and a young

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<v Speaker 1>Nathan Summers. And we go to season two, which we

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<v Speaker 1>await with Beta Breath.

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<v Speaker 4>Nathan Day as Kani. Oh, don't even get me started about.

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<v Speaker 6>This real quick, because you know, I'm looking, I'm doing

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<v Speaker 6>my account. I'm like, okay, where is she?

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<v Speaker 5>What happened?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm interested in that too, because we get to see

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<v Speaker 3>just before the episode ends Forges looking for mutants, but

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<v Speaker 3>really he's just looking for Storm as well.

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<v Speaker 4>He's like, where that's making sense?

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<v Speaker 3>And then obviously Lucas Bishops turns up love him and

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<v Speaker 3>he's like, we gotta save the X Men, which is

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<v Speaker 3>kind of a nice nod to like giant size where

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<v Speaker 3>they kind of have to get a new team together.

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<v Speaker 4>But where is Storm? My gut, there's two options here.

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<v Speaker 3>One, she's off and they're gonna reveal that it's this

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<v Speaker 3>big important plot point. Two they just forgot about her,

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<v Speaker 3>because I have to say, my one issue with this

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<v Speaker 3>show is they didn't necessarily hit all the storm beats

0:21:42.440 --> 0:21:44.200
<v Speaker 3>they could have hit, Like, we didn't get her taken

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<v Speaker 3>the leadership from Scott, we didn't get some of those

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<v Speaker 3>bigger moments. So they either forgot or she's somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'll be interested to see where. I have to say,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't believe Storm would get pulled into the Mother

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<v Speaker 3>Ask Karnie nonsense. And I also believe she would have

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<v Speaker 3>seen through apocalypse early on, so maybe that's why.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe they didn't want to, maybe they knew that she

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<v Speaker 4>would be better off.

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<v Speaker 3>But where she is is I think the biggest question

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<v Speaker 3>going into season two because where in the timestream would

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<v Speaker 3>you put her?

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<v Speaker 4>Steph, what do you think?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's a good one.

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<v Speaker 6>I actually wouldn't have minded putting her back so way

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<v Speaker 6>back we're like Rogan them pop up because like her ancestor, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>and her ancestors and that whole magical thing. So I

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<v Speaker 6>personally would have put her there because when they like

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<v Speaker 6>pan to like the the Pyramids or wherever, like the

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<v Speaker 6>the Royal Royal Palace, I was like.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, maybe Storms there, Maybe she's been there for a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit, and now they're like, oh and some type

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<v Speaker 2>of point. I don't Maybe.

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<v Speaker 4>Storm wouldn't put up with Apocalypse.

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<v Speaker 3>He's obviously not in power yet he's like fighting for

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<v Speaker 3>his life. So maybe Storm's out there trying to stop

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<v Speaker 3>him and she sent those guards to catch him.

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<v Speaker 5>That would be cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I would take that.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about some of your Charles Xavier hate. Did

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<v Speaker 1>this season inform any of it? Did it build your case?

0:23:10.640 --> 0:23:14.040
<v Speaker 1>Did it did it diminish your case at all? And

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<v Speaker 1>how do you feel about it now? I personally, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that this episode, this one episode was like the

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<v Speaker 1>best moment that Charles has had in the series and

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a enhancement of his philosophy. Though

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<v Speaker 1>obviously it's extremely flawed, but to your Rosie's point, solving

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<v Speaker 1>problems of his own making. But how do you feel

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<v Speaker 1>about Charles now after the season.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel vindicated.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I feel like, you know, the writings have been

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<v Speaker 6>on the wall since forever ago. You've been way back

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<v Speaker 6>when he was creeping on Gene will Well before.

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<v Speaker 8>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's just funny.

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<v Speaker 6>Because in the ninety two he was terrible then and

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<v Speaker 6>he's definitely still terrible now. Because when they cut to

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<v Speaker 6>him in space and I saw him in that suit,

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<v Speaker 6>I said, wow, oh, so this is where you've been.

0:24:01.480 --> 0:24:03.760
<v Speaker 6>You couldn't even put in PTO. You just fake your

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<v Speaker 6>death and the kids are down there fighting for their

0:24:08.480 --> 0:24:12.000
<v Speaker 6>entire life vindication. But you know, sometimes being a visionary

0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:14.440
<v Speaker 6>as lonely, all of us who have been a part

0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:17.600
<v Speaker 6>of the Charles hate camp had to wait til twenty

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<v Speaker 6>twenty four to get our full circle vindication.

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<v Speaker 3>Truly, the only and this is like controversial to even

0:24:24.280 --> 0:24:26.320
<v Speaker 3>bring up this movie, but the only movie that even

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<v Speaker 3>touched on how bad Charles was really is Dark Phoenix.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, I knew you're gonna say Dark Phoenix. Yeah, it's true.

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<v Speaker 3>He goes to like a fancy dinner award show to

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<v Speaker 3>get like a so important award and the kids are

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<v Speaker 3>just left to.

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<v Speaker 4>Be attacked while they have like a dazzler rave.

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<v Speaker 3>So I remember being like, oh, well that I love

0:24:46.160 --> 0:24:50.360
<v Speaker 3>that they're I'm like I'm like, they're digging into it.

0:24:50.800 --> 0:24:53.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, they're digging into it, They're digging into dark

0:24:53.200 --> 0:24:56.040
<v Speaker 3>Charles James McAvoy's he's acting up and everyone's like, I've

0:24:56.080 --> 0:24:58.200
<v Speaker 3>never even seen the movie while you're talking about and also,

0:24:58.200 --> 0:24:59.760
<v Speaker 3>that's a bad movie, so how can we take that?

0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:03.480
<v Speaker 3>But because X Men ninety seven is so beloved and

0:25:03.720 --> 0:25:06.320
<v Speaker 3>it's dealt with the duality of Charles, I think people

0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:09.320
<v Speaker 3>are for the first time given us our due and

0:25:09.400 --> 0:25:11.800
<v Speaker 3>also coming around, Steph, what do you think it is

0:25:12.320 --> 0:25:15.439
<v Speaker 3>about X Men ninety seven that has made it like

0:25:15.840 --> 0:25:18.520
<v Speaker 3>so successful because this is kind of popped off in

0:25:18.560 --> 0:25:20.600
<v Speaker 3>a way a lot of the Disney Plus stuff hasn't,

0:25:21.200 --> 0:25:23.040
<v Speaker 3>and it really does seem to have hit a lot

0:25:23.040 --> 0:25:25.920
<v Speaker 3>of the X Men notes and beats that people were

0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:26.360
<v Speaker 3>looking for.

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<v Speaker 6>Because I feel like it does a great job of

0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:33.920
<v Speaker 6>not just it not rehashing ninety two or really any

0:25:33.960 --> 0:25:35.640
<v Speaker 6>of the comics in a way that we've been here,

0:25:35.720 --> 0:25:38.480
<v Speaker 6>done that we've seen this before. It feels fresh. I

0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:40.800
<v Speaker 6>started watching it with my eight year old, which I

0:25:40.920 --> 0:25:43.040
<v Speaker 6>enjoyed because I was really curious is what his reception

0:25:43.080 --> 0:25:45.320
<v Speaker 6>would be of it, because ninety two he's watched a

0:25:45.359 --> 0:25:48.560
<v Speaker 6>little bit of but for ninety seven, when we got

0:25:48.600 --> 0:25:51.040
<v Speaker 6>to the end of episode two and like the two

0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:53.560
<v Speaker 6>Genes showed up and he looked at me and he

0:25:53.680 --> 0:25:58.639
<v Speaker 6>was like, what's going on? So later he's like, so, Gina,

0:25:59.359 --> 0:26:01.560
<v Speaker 6>what's going on with Gina? I'm like, who is Gina?

0:26:01.720 --> 0:26:02.120
<v Speaker 2>He met?

0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:05.879
<v Speaker 6>I was like, who is Gena? He's like Scott's wife.

0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:07.479
<v Speaker 6>I was like, Oh, you mean Gene Gray. I've been

0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:11.440
<v Speaker 6>calling her Gina Gray since then. But I think of

0:26:12.240 --> 0:26:14.520
<v Speaker 6>him being that temperature check. I think that it's just

0:26:14.840 --> 0:26:18.440
<v Speaker 6>a really great job of making something accessible to those

0:26:18.480 --> 0:26:22.800
<v Speaker 6>who have appreciated the previous X Men animated series in

0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:25.800
<v Speaker 6>the comics, and also doing a good job of bringing

0:26:25.800 --> 0:26:29.159
<v Speaker 6>in new fans because he I mean, he's gonna be

0:26:29.200 --> 0:26:32.080
<v Speaker 6>mad at me today because I watched the finale before.

0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:34.040
<v Speaker 6>I got to pretend like I didn't see it, but like,

0:26:34.119 --> 0:26:37.320
<v Speaker 6>it's something that we've been able to actively Yes, we've

0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:41.040
<v Speaker 6>been able to actively watch together Millennial and also Jen Alpha.

0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:42.720
<v Speaker 2>Who knew it could bring those two together?

0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:44.239
<v Speaker 4>I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of that, do we have any theories about when

0:26:47.240 --> 0:26:50.760
<v Speaker 1>Sinister switched Gina and when when did the switch occur?

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<v Speaker 4>I think the implication here is like pre Phoenix.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they they really make it seem like it's it's

0:26:57.960 --> 0:27:00.800
<v Speaker 3>unclear who is who and whether Maddie was Phoenix or

0:27:00.840 --> 0:27:04.040
<v Speaker 3>Gene was Phoenix. And maybe from what they were saying

0:27:04.040 --> 0:27:07.960
<v Speaker 3>to Nate also potentially like in different universes it was

0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:11.359
<v Speaker 3>at different times, because the implication is like maybe Maddie

0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:14.080
<v Speaker 3>was Phoenix one time, Jane was Phoenix. So it's I

0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:17.439
<v Speaker 3>think they leave it really open here, especially Becausejeane's always like,

0:27:17.560 --> 0:27:18.400
<v Speaker 3>I don't know which.

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:19.000
<v Speaker 2>Memories are mine.

0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:20.760
<v Speaker 4>I don't know which memories are mine, I don't know.

0:27:20.680 --> 0:27:23.480
<v Speaker 3>Which hers, and then she's remembering stuff from like twenty

0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:26.720
<v Speaker 3>years ago, and you're like, Babe, like this this is

0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:29.359
<v Speaker 3>really fucked up, but I really love that by the

0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:31.080
<v Speaker 3>end of this, she's just like, I'm embracing it.

0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:31.920
<v Speaker 4>This is my son.

0:27:32.640 --> 0:27:35.280
<v Speaker 3>I am Maddie, she is me. Maddie's dead now, so

0:27:35.320 --> 0:27:37.359
<v Speaker 3>I don't need to worry about her. It's just me

0:27:37.480 --> 0:27:40.080
<v Speaker 3>here and this is my child. So, continuing the comic

0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:44.440
<v Speaker 3>book legacy where they just steal Nathan from Maddie.

0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:45.239
<v Speaker 2>She's the mother who stepped up.

0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:49.000
<v Speaker 7>She's not a stepmother, She's the mother who stepped up,

0:27:49.440 --> 0:27:51.520
<v Speaker 7>came out of the Phoenix Force and saved her son

0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:53.800
<v Speaker 7>when he was getting whipped with his own hand.

0:27:54.760 --> 0:27:58.480
<v Speaker 1>Of course, we're all waiting for the X Men to

0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:02.679
<v Speaker 1>appear in the MC. You what, if anything, does the

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:06.200
<v Speaker 1>success of X Men ninety seven tell us about the

0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 1>shape that a live action X Men could take, Because personally,

0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:16.159
<v Speaker 1>I think this series shows it just perfectly encapsulates the

0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:22.520
<v Speaker 1>X Men feel, and the feel is like they're not heroes, really,

0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:24.960
<v Speaker 1>they're outlaws, and I think that's gonna be a difficult

0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:28.919
<v Speaker 1>thing maybe to capture. And you say soap opera, Yeah,

0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:30.600
<v Speaker 1>it's a soap opera big time.

0:28:31.440 --> 0:28:33.840
<v Speaker 6>I think it's it would have to work best if

0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:36.880
<v Speaker 6>they do, and I think we all know they are.

0:28:37.040 --> 0:28:41.040
<v Speaker 6>But a TV series it has to be that because

0:28:41.040 --> 0:28:45.800
<v Speaker 6>a movie is just it's not enough too. It's just

0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:49.000
<v Speaker 6>it's just not enough space. And I love that these

0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 6>episodes came out weekly because you had a chance to

0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:54.640
<v Speaker 6>like sit with it and either if you're somebody who

0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 6>reads comments, you had a chance to you know, touch

0:28:56.920 --> 0:28:59.640
<v Speaker 6>on some things and refresh or find out things that

0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:02.520
<v Speaker 6>you didn't before. But I think, if anything, it proves

0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:05.120
<v Speaker 6>that it can be done. But maybe TV is the

0:29:05.120 --> 0:29:06.960
<v Speaker 6>best way to do it.

0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:08.760
<v Speaker 4>We've talked about that before.

0:29:08.840 --> 0:29:11.320
<v Speaker 3>How it if they did some kind of thing just

0:29:11.360 --> 0:29:14.320
<v Speaker 3>called like exaviers and it just introduced.

0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:17.760
<v Speaker 4>You to the the school and the soap opera, you know, cheers.

0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:22.600
<v Speaker 4>Sometimes you want to go wear every mutant you know.

0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:25.440
<v Speaker 3>But it makes sense like you could have essentially almost

0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:27.880
<v Speaker 3>like it could work as an anthology series where you

0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:30.120
<v Speaker 3>introduced different mutants. It could work as a slice of

0:29:30.120 --> 0:29:31.880
<v Speaker 3>life drama way or at the school and you get

0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:34.280
<v Speaker 3>to know everyone, and then once you bring out those

0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:36.800
<v Speaker 3>big bombastic movies like a Storm movie, which is what

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:39.760
<v Speaker 3>they should do if they're not stupid, then you already

0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:42.160
<v Speaker 3>know that interactions, you know the ways the character works.

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:44.800
<v Speaker 3>I think the fact they use Bastion makes me feel

0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:48.160
<v Speaker 3>like they were probably given editorial esque edbts about which

0:29:48.280 --> 0:29:50.560
<v Speaker 3>villains to use and which not to use because of

0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:51.440
<v Speaker 3>the movies.

0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:53.200
<v Speaker 4>Because I just feel like it was such a weird choice.

0:29:53.200 --> 0:29:55.480
<v Speaker 3>I feel like they killed it, and I loved the

0:29:55.520 --> 0:29:58.560
<v Speaker 3>way Bastian was presented. He's so campy, but like, who

0:29:58.680 --> 0:30:00.800
<v Speaker 3>thought the bad guy was going to be bad? I

0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 3>also feel like the fact that they basically kept Wolverine

0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 3>as a side character is probably because of how important

0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 3>he's going to be in Deadpool and Wolverine and them

0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:13.120
<v Speaker 3>not necessarily wanting to mess with that. But I also

0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:18.000
<v Speaker 3>think hopefully they've learned some lessons about how important the

0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:21.719
<v Speaker 3>character relationships are and the messes, because I think that's

0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:24.800
<v Speaker 3>like the thing that people really want. They want morph

0:30:24.880 --> 0:30:28.160
<v Speaker 3>turning into Gene and saying I love you, and everyone being.

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:31.120
<v Speaker 4>Like, ah, that's Wolf saying that's Wolverine, like what the fuck?

0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:35.560
<v Speaker 3>And they want the Thrapple, they want the love Triangle.

0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:38.480
<v Speaker 3>They want all that kind of messiness along with the

0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:39.800
<v Speaker 3>powerful mute and stuff.

0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:41.160
<v Speaker 4>Also less militarized.

0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:44.000
<v Speaker 3>I think this show did that really well, like not

0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 3>the black leather suits, not working with the government, living

0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 3>that more anti heroic outlaw life which could pit them against,

0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, the kind of milk toast Avengers that the

0:30:54.000 --> 0:30:55.720
<v Speaker 3>MCU kind of established.

0:30:57.880 --> 0:31:01.920
<v Speaker 1>That to me is the completion, because the more serious

0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:05.040
<v Speaker 1>you get about Mutants and the X Men in the

0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:09.960
<v Speaker 1>comics and wherever their stories can be found, the more

0:31:10.000 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 1>you come to terms with the fact that the Avengers

0:31:14.120 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 1>and quote unquote human superheroes just don't do enough. They

0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:22.720
<v Speaker 1>don't get involved in the affairs of the mutant community

0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to saving them, They're certainly not going

0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:29.800
<v Speaker 1>to take a stand against human governments or powerful actors

0:31:29.840 --> 0:31:33.440
<v Speaker 1>within the US government who are dedicated to mutant extermination.

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:35.400
<v Speaker 1>They're always going to be a day late and a

0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:38.040
<v Speaker 1>dollar short. And it leads you to ask, like, well,

0:31:38.080 --> 0:31:41.080
<v Speaker 1>what good are you if twenty million people can be

0:31:41.120 --> 0:31:45.640
<v Speaker 1>wiped out on Genosha and the Avengers are just like

0:31:45.680 --> 0:31:48.440
<v Speaker 1>on coffee break, then what are you guys doing?

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:49.640
<v Speaker 5>Like, what are you really doing?

0:31:49.760 --> 0:31:50.240
<v Speaker 2>Real quick?

0:31:50.600 --> 0:31:52.960
<v Speaker 6>As this asteroid is falling down and getting ready to

0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:55.280
<v Speaker 6>hit the east? Cause like Peter Parker and Mary Jane

0:31:55.320 --> 0:31:57.320
<v Speaker 6>are like standing outside of a radio. Just watch it

0:31:57.320 --> 0:31:59.640
<v Speaker 6>on TV, Yes, watching it on TV, and I'm like,

0:31:59.680 --> 0:32:02.600
<v Speaker 6>if you don't swing your web up there and get

0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:05.040
<v Speaker 6>to doing something like where where is everyone?

0:32:05.920 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 2>No one? No one was able to help. They're just like, well.

0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:11.400
<v Speaker 5>Just doctor doctor, strangers doing surgery.

0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:13.400
<v Speaker 2>It up a portal, like what you're doing?

0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 3>Seriously also as well, like couldn't you just yeah, open

0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:19.600
<v Speaker 3>a pool and put them asteroid through it? Couldn't Spider

0:32:19.640 --> 0:32:21.520
<v Speaker 3>Man make a giant web and it could just bounce off.

0:32:21.560 --> 0:32:23.600
<v Speaker 3>We've seen him do that many times. I don't know

0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:26.440
<v Speaker 3>it's almost like there's this weird kind of that's a

0:32:26.520 --> 0:32:27.840
<v Speaker 3>mutant problem.

0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:29.200
<v Speaker 2>Which is your problem.

0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:33.360
<v Speaker 4>It's your problem, it's your problem.

0:32:33.120 --> 0:32:36.000
<v Speaker 5>For sure. I think that is the stance.

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:39.200
<v Speaker 1>I think this Listen, Cap and the rest of the

0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Avengers obviously.

0:32:42.160 --> 0:32:46.520
<v Speaker 4>No better and our friendly you know, air.

0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Quotes with mutants, know them well, understand that they're not

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:53.480
<v Speaker 1>what they're portrayed to be. But there's also a big

0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:55.880
<v Speaker 1>incentive for Cap and the Avengers to be like, Okay,

0:32:55.920 --> 0:32:59.640
<v Speaker 1>that's a mutant problem. They'll handle it, and they'll also

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:02.000
<v Speaker 1>be paying it as the bad guys when they handle it,

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:05.560
<v Speaker 1>and we'll just step aside and won't ever raise our

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:08.640
<v Speaker 1>voices about it, like that's fine, Like let's just let

0:33:08.720 --> 0:33:12.360
<v Speaker 1>that take place. And I think that is a really

0:33:12.360 --> 0:33:17.880
<v Speaker 1>complicated and cool, evocative, emotionally powerful kind of vibe to

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:21.239
<v Speaker 1>try and capture in live action. And I think it's

0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:24.000
<v Speaker 1>also I think it's vital to the experience of mutants

0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:27.320
<v Speaker 1>within Marvel stories. And I think it's also really hard

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:28.840
<v Speaker 1>because it makes the Avengers look bad.

0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:31.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, exactly will they will they commit?

0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:39.880
<v Speaker 6>Okay, well, Alfree Winard already made them look bad when Alfrey.

0:33:39.600 --> 0:33:44.200
<v Speaker 3>In just two minutes come on, I mean, Tony Stark

0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:46.720
<v Speaker 3>is like a dunce. Let's be real, like he's in

0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:50.880
<v Speaker 3>that meeting doing nothing looking like okay, speaking of that,

0:33:51.040 --> 0:33:54.000
<v Speaker 3>before we let you go, who who's your favorite cameo?

0:33:54.040 --> 0:33:56.200
<v Speaker 3>If we're gonna give like a six MALEI the Year

0:33:56.240 --> 0:33:59.080
<v Speaker 3>Award aka favorite Cameo. We did get a lot of

0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:03.239
<v Speaker 3>really good ones in this season, especially at the end

0:34:03.280 --> 0:34:05.360
<v Speaker 3>of this episode. We got some funny on the war

0:34:05.480 --> 0:34:07.840
<v Speaker 3>cameos too, So was there one that really made you

0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:11.160
<v Speaker 3>like most excited or like, why is that person there?

0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:12.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna have.

0:34:12.080 --> 0:34:14.480
<v Speaker 6>To go with Cap and that is only because Rogue,

0:34:15.000 --> 0:34:18.520
<v Speaker 6>like through his shield like a frissy, said.

0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:23.719
<v Speaker 2>Super soldier, go get it. And I enjoyed that.

0:34:23.920 --> 0:34:24.520
<v Speaker 5>Go get it.

0:34:24.960 --> 0:34:25.840
<v Speaker 4>That was fantastic.

0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:29.880
<v Speaker 3>I liked Alpha Flight with Silock. I was like, sure,

0:34:30.400 --> 0:34:32.920
<v Speaker 3>that's great. Also, I'm a dust stand so it was

0:34:33.000 --> 0:34:35.480
<v Speaker 3>nice to see her on the wall. Magic Exodus, I.

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:38.520
<v Speaker 4>Guess he's alive before he died in Ganosha Jason, what

0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:40.279
<v Speaker 4>was the cameo that made you well?

0:34:40.320 --> 0:34:41.040
<v Speaker 5>You mentioned a lot.

0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:43.879
<v Speaker 1>I love that we saw Exodus one of the you know,

0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:46.560
<v Speaker 1>an Omega level guy and one of the most powerful

0:34:46.640 --> 0:34:48.720
<v Speaker 1>mutans we have and he was just dancing.

0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:51.360
<v Speaker 5>I think Boom Boom.

0:34:51.680 --> 0:34:54.080
<v Speaker 1>I loved seeing Boom Boom. I love Boom Boom's energy,

0:34:55.560 --> 0:34:56.680
<v Speaker 1>one of my favorites.

0:34:57.000 --> 0:34:57.680
<v Speaker 5>And strong guy.

0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:01.160
<v Speaker 1>Strong guy I like because he's a fun he's a simple,

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:02.279
<v Speaker 1>simple kind of guy.

0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:03.400
<v Speaker 5>He's just strong, simple.

0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:06.080
<v Speaker 3>I was a big fan. As soon as I saw Davil,

0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:07.439
<v Speaker 3>I was like, Oh, that's cool. And then I saw

0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:10.480
<v Speaker 3>that he was like fucking clothes lining looters and I

0:35:10.520 --> 0:35:12.880
<v Speaker 3>was like, ah, you fucking caught like this, motherfucker, just

0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:16.480
<v Speaker 3>get I have the asteroid.

0:35:16.800 --> 0:35:19.440
<v Speaker 5>Well he's top of you. Yeah, but you didn't see that.

0:35:19.560 --> 0:35:22.799
<v Speaker 1>Right after that, he handed them a card for for

0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:25.400
<v Speaker 1>his law firm and said like, if you need something.

0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:26.640
<v Speaker 4>Oh, this is.

0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:29.160
<v Speaker 5>Hit up.

0:35:29.719 --> 0:35:31.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh my god.

0:35:31.400 --> 0:35:34.400
<v Speaker 5>Hit up Foggy and Murdoch and we could take care

0:35:34.400 --> 0:35:34.600
<v Speaker 5>of you.

0:35:34.640 --> 0:35:36.759
<v Speaker 3>We'll defend you once I shipped you off to the

0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:39.520
<v Speaker 3>police and then we get the funds from from the city.

0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Thanks well, Steph, thanks so much for joining us. Do

0:35:43.960 --> 0:35:45.000
<v Speaker 1>you have anything to promote?

0:35:45.040 --> 0:35:46.279
<v Speaker 4>Where can people find you?

0:35:46.360 --> 0:35:46.640
<v Speaker 5>Plug?

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<v Speaker 6>Plug plug so real quick, Moon Girl and Double Dinosaur

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<v Speaker 6>record roll my first middle grade It's a fun time.

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<v Speaker 6>You love the animated series, You'll love this.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it's based on that.

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<v Speaker 6>I've got Star Trek celebrations coming out at the end

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<v Speaker 6>of May May twenty.

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<v Speaker 4>Ninth, Yeah, five hundredth issue right, oh.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yes, and that was Monouns yesterday. So Star Trek

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<v Speaker 6>five hundred September fourth, and then My Little Pony and

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<v Speaker 6>My Little Pony series starts June twelfth, and man, those

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<v Speaker 6>ponies they almost broke me. Superhero stuff ride it all day.

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<v Speaker 6>Ponies brought me to my knees.

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<v Speaker 4>So you beat go out and pre order that one. Please,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm whare Can people find you online?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on Twitter now.

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<v Speaker 6>No, I'm not on Twitter, but if you want to

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<v Speaker 6>dig up old tweets, you can go to ed Stuff,

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<v Speaker 6>Underscore I underscore will That is the same for Instagram

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<v Speaker 6>TikTok and also that we're at known as threads.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, thanks, thank you, Thankstav.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to another edition of the Omnibus, where Lord, analysis

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<v Speaker 1>and understanding come together. Today Rosie is recommending us the

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<v Speaker 1>best comics read if you loved X Men ninety seven,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's also digging back into their relevance and the

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<v Speaker 1>creators who made them.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you've listened to Xtra Vision over the years.

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<v Speaker 3>You'll know that we're huge X fans, no surprise is there,

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<v Speaker 3>and that our formative years and comics fandom were shaped

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<v Speaker 3>by these books.

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<v Speaker 4>But we're also aware that it.

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<v Speaker 3>Can be very overwhelming to take on sixty years of cannon.

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<v Speaker 3>So now The X Men ninety seven has finished its

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<v Speaker 3>first season and lots of folks are asking us what

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<v Speaker 3>comics they should read, which you guys have been doing

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<v Speaker 3>throughout the season. We are here to guide you through

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<v Speaker 3>four of our must read picks oh five. One of

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<v Speaker 3>them is a short one if you want to read

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<v Speaker 3>something as the dust settles from season one.

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<v Speaker 4>So we're beginning with.

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<v Speaker 3>Giant sized X Men number one, Lemueen and Dave Cochran,

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<v Speaker 3>which hits shelves in nineteen seventy five. It's one of

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<v Speaker 3>the books that Jason and I first bonded over when

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<v Speaker 3>I first did my audition for Vision and is arguably

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<v Speaker 3>the single most important X Men book since the very

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<v Speaker 3>first issue.

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<v Speaker 4>So what makes it so important?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, in nineteen seventy X Men sixty six became the

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<v Speaker 3>last new issue of the failing book before it became

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<v Speaker 3>a reprint title. It was five years later that Ween

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<v Speaker 3>and Cockrum took on the iconic team, reimagining them as

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<v Speaker 3>global heroes from around the world. Beginning with four new characters.

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<v Speaker 3>There was Colossus from the Soviet Union, the Kenyan heroine Storm,

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<v Speaker 3>German teleporter, night Crawler, and the superhuman aparche Thunderbird. Fighting

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<v Speaker 3>alongside them were Banshee and Sunfire, who had recently been

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<v Speaker 3>introduced in other comics, and a little known Incredible Hult

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<v Speaker 3>character called Wolverine.

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<v Speaker 2>Have You had of him?

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<v Speaker 4>Might Have had of Him?

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<v Speaker 3>In the vital issue, the original X Men have been

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<v Speaker 3>kidnapped and taken to the island known as Krakoa, and

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<v Speaker 3>the new team I needed to help rescue them. Aside

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<v Speaker 3>from being an important issue in X history, it's a

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<v Speaker 3>great jumping on point and revitalized the franchise, and in

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<v Speaker 3>regards to X Men ninety seven specifically, it basically introduced

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<v Speaker 3>many of the core characters that you know in love.

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<v Speaker 3>Next up is X Men from the Ashes, which encompasses

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<v Speaker 3>X Men one sixty eight to one seventy six, and

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<v Speaker 3>the arc takes its name from the first trade paperback

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<v Speaker 3>that collected it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's also obviously.

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<v Speaker 3>The inspiration for the New from the Ashes relaunch that

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<v Speaker 3>we talked about in previously on. It tells a story

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<v Speaker 3>of the X Men just as they returned from space

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<v Speaker 3>and are dealing with the loss of Cyclops, who has

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<v Speaker 3>gone back to his roots in Alaska. While there, he

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<v Speaker 3>meets a beautiful young pilot named Madeline Pryor, who just

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<v Speaker 3>so happens to look like his dearly departed wife, Jean

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<v Speaker 3>Gray shocking. Representing the Lion's share of Paul Smith's time

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<v Speaker 3>on the X Men working with Chris Claremont, this is

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<v Speaker 3>a key arc for many reasons, not least Madeline Pryor

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<v Speaker 3>rogue joins the X Men team and the infamous words

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<v Speaker 3>Professor Xavier is a jerk. All of those moments were

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<v Speaker 3>deeply influential on X Men ninety seven, and this arc

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<v Speaker 3>featured not only Paul Smith, but iconic artist Walt Simonson

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<v Speaker 3>on Uncanny X Men one seventy one and the beginning

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<v Speaker 3>of John Remiter. June is long run on the series

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<v Speaker 3>with issue Uncanny x Men one seventy six. It's also

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<v Speaker 3>interesting to note that Smith's slick and clean style has

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<v Speaker 3>clearly helped shape the visual landscape.

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<v Speaker 4>Of the animated series.

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<v Speaker 3>Plus we get to meet the Morlocks and Storm's iconic

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<v Speaker 3>Punk Transformation, both things we got glimpses of in X

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<v Speaker 3>Men ninety seven. Now our third pick is Inferno, which

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<v Speaker 3>you've heard us talk about as we've covered the show,

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<v Speaker 3>which stands as one of the earlier examples of a

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<v Speaker 3>Superio crossover that cut into numerous ongoing series, meaning technically

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<v Speaker 3>lots of issues count as being a part of it. However,

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<v Speaker 3>that means you have two options. You can pick up

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<v Speaker 3>the trade collections if you want to read every single issue,

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<v Speaker 3>or you can just read Uncanny X Men two thirty

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<v Speaker 3>nine to two forty three for the core story. This

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<v Speaker 3>is a culmination of Maddi Pryor's story arc, featuring her

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<v Speaker 3>becoming the Goblin Queen, who we talked quite extensively about.

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<v Speaker 3>Cyclops left a while ago when Jean Gray returned and

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<v Speaker 3>of course took Maddie's son Nathan with him, Boo his

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<v Speaker 3>sister Tomorrow Tomorrow bad Dad behavior the X Men at

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<v Speaker 3>Outlaws living in the Australian Outback, and in the time

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<v Speaker 3>since Maddie's debut, mister Sinister has arrived in his campy

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<v Speaker 3>cloak and has been made her primary antagonist. Episode three,

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<v Speaker 3>Fire Made Flesh took heavily from this, giving us a

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<v Speaker 3>mini Inferno. But in the comics, this was a sprawling

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<v Speaker 3>story arc that had been bubbling for a long time. Notably,

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<v Speaker 3>the X Men issues in Inferno are drawn by Mark Silvestri,

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<v Speaker 3>one of the most influential ex artists of his time. Interestingly,

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<v Speaker 3>what you won't see reflected on the show is the

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<v Speaker 3>line up here, as nearly every character on the X

0:41:30.480 --> 0:41:33.000
<v Speaker 3>team at this time in the eighties is someone who

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<v Speaker 3>hasn't received significant screen time in X Men ninety seven.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, this is our mini entry. Fatal Attractions is here

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<v Speaker 4>for two reasons.

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<v Speaker 3>It's where Magneto rips the Adamantium off Wolverine skeleton in

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<v Speaker 3>one of the most iconic moments in X history, and

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<v Speaker 3>it features everyone's baddest dad, Charles mind wiping Magneto, which

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<v Speaker 3>you may have seen in the finale of X Men

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<v Speaker 3>ninety seven. And that leads to the eventual Onslaught story arc,

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<v Speaker 3>which we also talked about last week. Picking up on

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<v Speaker 3>the rossover model pioneered by Inferno, this ran through multiple series,

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<v Speaker 3>but only for one issue each, So the best way

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<v Speaker 3>to read this is to get the collection from your

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<v Speaker 3>favorite local comic shop, because otherwise it's pretty hard to follow.

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<v Speaker 4>Our final choice.

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<v Speaker 3>Is a comic that me and Jason loved dearly. E

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<v Speaker 3>Is for Extinction, the first volume of Grant Morrison and

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<v Speaker 3>Frank Quietly's New X Men series, which feels like a

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<v Speaker 3>funny inclusion seeing, is actually debuted in two thousand and one,

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<v Speaker 3>four years after X Men ninety seven is set. But

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<v Speaker 3>remember the episode that broke the Internet?

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<v Speaker 7>Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>Episode five takes directly from this incredibly influential series that

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<v Speaker 3>recast the X Men as rockstar celebrities living in a

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<v Speaker 3>world that no longer hated and fears them. This ran

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<v Speaker 3>through the renamed X Men series New x Men issues

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<v Speaker 3>one fourteen to one sixteen, and for just three issues,

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<v Speaker 3>it played a large role in shaping X Men ninety seven.

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<v Speaker 3>Maddie and Scott's psychic Affair was adapted from these pages,

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<v Speaker 3>though there he was cheating with Ma Frost. The three

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<v Speaker 3>part season ender takes half its title from its pages,

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<v Speaker 3>and the sentinel evolution and self repairing sentinels and sentience

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<v Speaker 3>sentinels all come from this someone who isn't featured in

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<v Speaker 3>X Men ninety seven, but who was recently confirmed as

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<v Speaker 3>the main antagonist in the upcoming Deadpool movie is Charles's

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<v Speaker 3>evil twin sister, Cassandra Nova, who made her debut in

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<v Speaker 3>the fan favorite new X Men series.

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<v Speaker 4>So there they are.

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<v Speaker 3>Those are the comics you should read if you loved

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<v Speaker 3>X Men ninety seven.

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<v Speaker 1>We love to end our show with a series of

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<v Speaker 1>fast moving segments. Today it's Who's Who, in which we

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<v Speaker 1>will be naming our favorite X Men antagonists. Rosie, you

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<v Speaker 1>got wool Baby.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm gonna go for like least favorite and more

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<v Speaker 3>like weird. So I'm gonna go for Ice Scream, who

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<v Speaker 3>was created by Alan Kopperberg in nineteen eighty three and

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<v Speaker 3>only made one appearance in Obnoxio the Clown Number One,

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<v Speaker 3>but did fight against the X Men, and he could

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<v Speaker 3>turn himself into any flavor of ice cream. I still

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<v Speaker 3>think of you often, ice Cream. I believe that you

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<v Speaker 3>can be redeemed and come back and fight the X Man.

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<v Speaker 4>Who's yours.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna select Robert Edward Kelly, former senator now President

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<v Speaker 1>of the United States make America human again. He ran

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<v Speaker 1>for office on a variety of anti mutant platforms.

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<v Speaker 4>Surely has comeback.

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<v Speaker 1>He's also got pretty strong ties to the hell Fire Club. Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>till he finds out who runs the hell Fire Club,

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<v Speaker 1>and now he's President the United States, he gets to

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<v Speaker 1>tell Captain America when he can go take a piss,

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Edward Kelly, You're President. Next week we'll be diving

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<v Speaker 1>into the post apocalyptic nuclear waste with episodes about Fallout

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<v Speaker 1>and Godzilla and don't forget. Tomorrow we'll have a very

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<v Speaker 1>special bonus episode on the Fantastic The Funny not meaning

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<v Speaker 1>to be funny, but really entertaining in its own way, Madam.

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<v Speaker 4>Webb los Loss.

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<v Speaker 5>That's it for our episode. Thanks is bing bye.

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<v Speaker 1>X ray Vision is hosted by Jason Concepcion and Rosie

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<v Speaker 1>Knight and is a production of iHeart Podcasts. Our executive

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<v Speaker 1>producers are Joelle Smith and Aaron Kaufman.

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<v Speaker 5>Our supervising producer is a Boo Zafar.

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<v Speaker 1>Our producers are Carmen Laurent and Mia Taylor. Our theme

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<v Speaker 1>song is by Brian Basquez.

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<v Speaker 3>Special thanks to Soul Rubin and Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman

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<v Speaker 3>and Heidi A disco moderata