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Speaker 1: Warning, Today's episode contains spoilers for X Men ninety seven

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Speaker 1: and the wider X Men comics Cannon.

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Speaker 2: Hello.

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Speaker 1: My name is Jaconceptium and I'm rosday Night, and welcome

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Speaker 1: back to x Revision, the podcast where we dive deep

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Speaker 1: to your favorite shows, movies, comics and pop culture. Coming

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Speaker 1: to you from iHeart Podcast, where we're bringing you two

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Speaker 1: episodes a week every Tuesday Thursday.

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Speaker 3: In today's episode, in the previously on, we're ripping our

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Speaker 3: Canuk claws into all the X Men and Marvel News

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Speaker 3: you can shake a Wolverine at In the airlock, we

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Speaker 3: are diving into that wild X Men season one finale

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Speaker 3: with special guests and expert Stephanie Williams. In the omnibus,

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Speaker 3: we're going to dig into the best comics to read

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Speaker 3: after X Men ninety seven, why they're important, and where

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Speaker 3: they fit into X Men history.

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Speaker 4: But first, it's a previously on.

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Speaker 5: First up.

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Speaker 1: New Dazzler, Storm and Avengers titles have been announced by

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Speaker 1: Marvel Comics on the app formerly known as Twitter and

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Speaker 1: other social media feeds. Your thoughts Rosy about this, I

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Speaker 1: think it's cool.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad to see Dazzler getting her shine me and

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Speaker 3: Nick recently all the Dazzler Original Comics series. The covers

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Speaker 3: want to see Storm get that solo series. We have

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Speaker 3: Stephanie Williams later. If they were going to pick someone

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Speaker 3: to be steph It's going to be interesting to see

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Speaker 3: them launch this from the Ashes era, which is kind

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Speaker 3: we also learned that Storm is going to be joining

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Speaker 3: the Avengers. In Avenger seventeen. They called her Earth's My

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Speaker 3: Ears mutant. I'm down for that. I totally believe it.

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Speaker 3: Someone in our discord made a great point though. This

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Speaker 3: means there are going to be eleven titles in the

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Speaker 4: So that seems like a lot.

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Speaker 3: But from what I've been reading, it's not necessarily a

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Speaker 4: I think it's more of a jumping on point. So

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Speaker 4: what of the books you're most excited to see?

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Speaker 1: Gosh I am an X Men always, X Men and

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Speaker 1: Uncanny are gonna remain my mainstays as usual, and then

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Speaker 1: Phoenix Storm X Force are probably the ones that I'm

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Speaker 1: But honestly, this, I mean it feels like the nineties

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which I can never complain about because we're nineties babies.

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Speaker 1: New Marvel release dates from The Hollywood Reporter. Daredevil Born

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Speaker 1: Again will be seen in March twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Agatha all Long The Scarlet which spinoff series will be

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Speaker 5: But good for the sea.

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Speaker 3: And also I'm a big fan of the fact that

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Speaker 4: Agatha all along. And I'm excited that that's going to

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Speaker 3: We weren't expecting that to happen, so that'll be a

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Speaker 1: Coming up stepping out of their lock and talking about

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Stephanie Williams is a cultural critic, superstar, meme maker,

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Speaker 3: and the Amazons, Living Heroes, Mungo and Devil, Dinosaur, Rock

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Speaker 3: and Roll, and more. She's also a world class Charles

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Speaker 6: Hello Stephanie, Hey, I am so happy to be here

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Speaker 6: because I have not been on the app formerly known

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Speaker 4: You were like, I need people to know it's not

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Speaker 1: We've been here, they're seeing the lights. Finally they're seeing

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Speaker 1: I must admit people. People will post it us and

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Speaker 4: Naive Yes, I never forget.

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Speaker 3: In the Discord, one of our amazing Discord members was like, so,

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Speaker 3: wait a minute, is Charles like not a good guy?

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Speaker 3: And everyone in the Discord just went boom every Everyone's

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Speaker 1: It's a good thing Charles can implant thoughts to people's

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Speaker 4: They're not good man, He's struggling. Steph.

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Speaker 3: Before we get into the season finale and recap it

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Speaker 3: and get into all the good topics, what was your

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Speaker 3: X Men origin story? So?

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Speaker 6: My x Men origin story was at the laundry meat Uh.

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Speaker 6: And I just remember always picking Storm and like Typhoon,

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Speaker 6: Thing that made me say, oh, this game that I

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Speaker 6: And then very early on I said, Man, this man

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Speaker 2: I do not like him.

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Speaker 4: You were you were like this, it's board headed by Nest.

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Speaker 4: Something wrong with him.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I remember the episode where he told with Verreen, like, hey,

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Speaker 3: I mean you've written extensively at you about how bad

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Speaker 2: I celebrated.

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Speaker 6: I did, like I always joke about him going on

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Speaker 6: He said good luck to y'all. Yes, I'm out here.

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Speaker 3: So, like you said, I'd been making love and drinking wine,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about it in our Tuesday episode. I

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Speaker 1: think that episode of X Men ninety seven really crystallized

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Speaker 1: the problem with Charles. You know, Magneto and Charles's kids,

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Speaker 1: Charles's family are fighting off active extinction at the hands

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Speaker 1: let's just sit back and watch it happen. Magneto decided

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Speaker 3: Wait what as we see in this episode? Terrible idea,

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Speaker 1: we recap this episode, So let's get into it. X

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Speaker 1: Men ninety seven Survival is Extinction, Part three, the season

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Speaker 1: one X Men ninety seven finale. We open an asteroid

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Speaker 1: m where Charles has burrowed deep into Magneto Psyche as

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Speaker 3: Maybe go around and you know, collect up the prime sentinels.

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Speaker 1: He is this guy loves no one, but it's really

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Speaker 2: I said, what is this like? Is this the talk hour?

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Speaker 6: You're on your way to work, all of a sudden

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Speaker 2: Who is just waxing poetically about all the things. It's

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Speaker 1: Just kill us, Yeah, just kill talking.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to know about it.

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Speaker 5: So a Bastian is.

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Speaker 1: Telling us all about his philosophy, which is essentially tolerance,

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Speaker 1: his extension. He wants to he understanding that mutants evolved

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Speaker 5: That's his plan? Uh much too Sinister's disappointment.

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Speaker 1: Bastian is about to start with Nathan, who he has

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Speaker 1: once upon a time promised to give to mister Sinister.

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Speaker 1: But then Jean, with the very convenient power of the

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Speaker 3: Say, Bastian really manifested this when he said, Jean Madeline

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Speaker 6: The phoenix was in the middle of a delicious meal

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Speaker 6: I'll be back.

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Speaker 1: Phoenix reassembles the technopathy inhibiting collar that Hank and Forge

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Speaker 1: To get real busy, and she was working some things

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Speaker 1: Hey, someone's outside. It looks like the X Men again

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Speaker 5: I'll just leave it.

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Speaker 1: That it wasn't gonna work, Okay, of course.

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Speaker 4: Actually, yeah, Charles, because is a deadbeat dad.

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Speaker 5: I mean just like his dad, you know the apple.

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Speaker 5: Bring him back to Earth.

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Speaker 1: And so Magnus sees on a boat rogue his hot

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Speaker 8: That's the secondaryation, because what she said, your children like, yeah,

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Speaker 6: He can't.

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Speaker 2: With the white streaks in her hair.

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Speaker 5: He's like, rogue, that's right, that's right. I am Magnus,

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Speaker 4: I pulled that.

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Speaker 5: That's my girlfriend at your child's Xavier. I must come

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Speaker 1: And so Magneto awakens, He lives, He's gotta get back

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Speaker 5: Are we gonna be in Australia.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that.

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Speaker 3: It's like, no, yeah, we Godfather, We're going way for

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Speaker 1: The X Men have been thrown across time. Rogue, Hank,

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Speaker 1: of course, they encounter the mutant who will soon be

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Speaker 4: Nathan Day as Kani. Oh, don't even get me started about.

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Speaker 6: This real quick, because you know, I'm looking, I'm doing

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Speaker 5: What happened?

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Speaker 3: I'm interested in that too, because we get to see

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Speaker 4: He's like, where that's making sense?

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Speaker 3: And then obviously Lucas Bishops turns up love him and

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Speaker 3: he's like, we gotta save the X Men, which is

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Speaker 4: But where is Storm? My gut, there's two options here.

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Speaker 3: One, she's off and they're gonna reveal that it's this

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Speaker 3: But I'll be interested to see where. I have to say,

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Speaker 3: But where she is is I think the biggest question

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Speaker 3: you put her?

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Speaker 4: Steph, what do you think?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good one.

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Speaker 6: I actually wouldn't have minded putting her back so way

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Speaker 4: Storm wouldn't put up with Apocalypse.

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Speaker 3: He's obviously not in power yet he's like fighting for

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Speaker 5: That would be cool.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about some of your Charles Xavier hate. Did

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Speaker 1: Did it did it diminish your case at all? And

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Speaker 1: how do you feel about it now? I personally, I

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Speaker 1: think that this episode, this one episode was like the

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Speaker 1: obviously it's extremely flawed, but to your Rosie's point, solving

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Speaker 1: problems of his own making. But how do you feel

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Speaker 2: I feel vindicated.

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Speaker 6: on the wall since forever ago. You've been way back

443
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 6: when he was creeping on Gene will Well before.

444
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:48,120
Speaker 8: Right.

445
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 2: But it's just funny.

446
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 6: Because in the ninety two he was terrible then and

447
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,159
Speaker 6: he's definitely still terrible now. Because when they cut to

448
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 6: him in space and I saw him in that suit,

449
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 6: I said, wow, oh, so this is where you've been.

450
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 6: You couldn't even put in PTO. You just fake your

451
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 6: death and the kids are down there fighting for their

452
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 6: entire life vindication. But you know, sometimes being a visionary

453
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 6: as lonely, all of us who have been a part

454
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 6: of the Charles hate camp had to wait til twenty

455
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 6: twenty four to get our full circle vindication.

456
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 3: Truly, the only and this is like controversial to even

457
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 3: bring up this movie, but the only movie that even

458
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 3: touched on how bad Charles was really is Dark Phoenix.

459
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 5: Yes, I knew you're gonna say Dark Phoenix. Yeah, it's true.

460
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 3: He goes to like a fancy dinner award show to

461
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,640
Speaker 3: get like a so important award and the kids are

462
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 3: just left to.

463
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 4: Be attacked while they have like a dazzler rave.

464
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 3: So I remember being like, oh, well that I love

465
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:50,360
Speaker 3: that they're I'm like I'm like, they're digging into it.

466
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, they're digging into it, They're digging into dark

467
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 3: Charles James McAvoy's he's acting up and everyone's like, I've

468
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 3: never even seen the movie while you're talking about and also,

469
00:24:58,200 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 3: that's a bad movie, so how can we take that?

470
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 3: But because X Men ninety seven is so beloved and

471
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 3: it's dealt with the duality of Charles, I think people

472
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 3: are for the first time given us our due and

473
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 3: also coming around, Steph, what do you think it is

474
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 3: about X Men ninety seven that has made it like

475
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 3: so successful because this is kind of popped off in

476
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 3: a way a lot of the Disney Plus stuff hasn't,

477
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 3: and it really does seem to have hit a lot

478
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 3: of the X Men notes and beats that people were

479
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:26,360
Speaker 3: looking for.

480
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 6: Because I feel like it does a great job of

481
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 6: not just it not rehashing ninety two or really any

482
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 6: of the comics in a way that we've been here,

483
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 6: done that we've seen this before. It feels fresh. I

484
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 6: started watching it with my eight year old, which I

485
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 6: enjoyed because I was really curious is what his reception

486
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 6: would be of it, because ninety two he's watched a

487
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 6: little bit of but for ninety seven, when we got

488
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 6: to the end of episode two and like the two

489
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 6: Genes showed up and he looked at me and he

490
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 6: was like, what's going on? So later he's like, so, Gina,

491
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 6: what's going on with Gina? I'm like, who is Gina?

492
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 2: He met?

493
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 6: I was like, who is Gena? He's like Scott's wife.

494
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,479
Speaker 6: I was like, Oh, you mean Gene Gray. I've been

495
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 6: calling her Gina Gray since then. But I think of

496
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 6: him being that temperature check. I think that it's just

497
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 6: a really great job of making something accessible to those

498
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 6: who have appreciated the previous X Men animated series in

499
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 6: the comics, and also doing a good job of bringing

500
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 6: in new fans because he I mean, he's gonna be

501
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 6: mad at me today because I watched the finale before.

502
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 6: I got to pretend like I didn't see it, but like,

503
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 6: it's something that we've been able to actively Yes, we've

504
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 6: been able to actively watch together Millennial and also Jen Alpha.

505
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 2: Who knew it could bring those two together?

506
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:44,239
Speaker 4: I love that.

507
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 1: Speaking of that, do we have any theories about when

508
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: Sinister switched Gina and when when did the switch occur?

509
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,360
Speaker 4: I think the implication here is like pre Phoenix.

510
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, they they really make it seem like it's it's

511
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 3: unclear who is who and whether Maddie was Phoenix or

512
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 3: Gene was Phoenix. And maybe from what they were saying

513
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 3: to Nate also potentially like in different universes it was

514
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 3: at different times, because the implication is like maybe Maddie

515
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 3: was Phoenix one time, Jane was Phoenix. So it's I

516
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 3: think they leave it really open here, especially Becausejeane's always like,

517
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 3: I don't know which.

518
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 2: Memories are mine.

519
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 4: I don't know which memories are mine, I don't know.

520
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 3: Which hers, and then she's remembering stuff from like twenty

521
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 3: years ago, and you're like, Babe, like this this is

522
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 3: really fucked up, but I really love that by the

523
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 3: end of this, she's just like, I'm embracing it.

524
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 4: This is my son.

525
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 3: I am Maddie, she is me. Maddie's dead now, so

526
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 3: I don't need to worry about her. It's just me

527
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 3: here and this is my child. So, continuing the comic

528
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 3: book legacy where they just steal Nathan from Maddie.

529
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,239
Speaker 2: She's the mother who stepped up.

530
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 7: She's not a stepmother, She's the mother who stepped up,

531
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 7: came out of the Phoenix Force and saved her son

532
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 7: when he was getting whipped with his own hand.

533
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: Of course, we're all waiting for the X Men to

534
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 1: appear in the MC. You what, if anything, does the

535
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 1: success of X Men ninety seven tell us about the

536
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: shape that a live action X Men could take, Because personally,

537
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 1: I think this series shows it just perfectly encapsulates the

538
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: X Men feel, and the feel is like they're not heroes, really,

539
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: they're outlaws, and I think that's gonna be a difficult

540
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 1: thing maybe to capture. And you say soap opera, Yeah,

541
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: it's a soap opera big time.

542
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 6: I think it's it would have to work best if

543
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 6: they do, and I think we all know they are.

544
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 6: But a TV series it has to be that because

545
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 6: a movie is just it's not enough too. It's just

546
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 6: it's just not enough space. And I love that these

547
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 6: episodes came out weekly because you had a chance to

548
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 6: like sit with it and either if you're somebody who

549
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 6: reads comments, you had a chance to you know, touch

550
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 6: on some things and refresh or find out things that

551
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 6: you didn't before. But I think, if anything, it proves

552
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 6: that it can be done. But maybe TV is the

553
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 6: best way to do it.

554
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 4: We've talked about that before.

555
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 3: How it if they did some kind of thing just

556
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 3: called like exaviers and it just introduced.

557
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 4: You to the the school and the soap opera, you know, cheers.

558
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 4: Sometimes you want to go wear every mutant you know.

559
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 3: But it makes sense like you could have essentially almost

560
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 3: like it could work as an anthology series where you

561
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 3: introduced different mutants. It could work as a slice of

562
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 3: life drama way or at the school and you get

563
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 3: to know everyone, and then once you bring out those

564
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 3: big bombastic movies like a Storm movie, which is what

565
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 3: they should do if they're not stupid, then you already

566
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 3: know that interactions, you know the ways the character works.

567
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 3: I think the fact they use Bastion makes me feel

568
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 3: like they were probably given editorial esque edbts about which

569
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 3: villains to use and which not to use because of

570
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 3: the movies.

571
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 4: Because I just feel like it was such a weird choice.

572
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 3: I feel like they killed it, and I loved the

573
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 3: way Bastian was presented. He's so campy, but like, who

574
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 3: thought the bad guy was going to be bad? I

575
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 3: also feel like the fact that they basically kept Wolverine

576
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 3: as a side character is probably because of how important

577
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 3: he's going to be in Deadpool and Wolverine and them

578
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 3: not necessarily wanting to mess with that. But I also

579
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 3: think hopefully they've learned some lessons about how important the

580
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,719
Speaker 3: character relationships are and the messes, because I think that's

581
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 3: like the thing that people really want. They want morph

582
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 3: turning into Gene and saying I love you, and everyone being.

583
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 4: Like, ah, that's Wolf saying that's Wolverine, like what the fuck?

584
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 3: And they want the Thrapple, they want the love Triangle.

585
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 3: They want all that kind of messiness along with the

586
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 3: powerful mute and stuff.

587
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 4: Also less militarized.

588
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 3: I think this show did that really well, like not

589
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 3: the black leather suits, not working with the government, living

590
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 3: that more anti heroic outlaw life which could pit them against,

591
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 3: you know, the kind of milk toast Avengers that the

592
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 3: MCU kind of established.

593
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: That to me is the completion, because the more serious

594
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: you get about Mutants and the X Men in the

595
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: comics and wherever their stories can be found, the more

596
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: you come to terms with the fact that the Avengers

597
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: and quote unquote human superheroes just don't do enough. They

598
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: don't get involved in the affairs of the mutant community

599
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: when it comes to saving them, They're certainly not going

600
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: to take a stand against human governments or powerful actors

601
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: within the US government who are dedicated to mutant extermination.

602
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: They're always going to be a day late and a

603
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: dollar short. And it leads you to ask, like, well,

604
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: what good are you if twenty million people can be

605
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: wiped out on Genosha and the Avengers are just like

606
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: on coffee break, then what are you guys doing?

607
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 5: Like, what are you really doing?

608
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 2: Real quick?

609
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 6: As this asteroid is falling down and getting ready to

610
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 6: hit the east? Cause like Peter Parker and Mary Jane

611
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 6: are like standing outside of a radio. Just watch it

612
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 6: on TV, Yes, watching it on TV, and I'm like,

613
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 6: if you don't swing your web up there and get

614
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 6: to doing something like where where is everyone?

615
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 2: No one? No one was able to help. They're just like, well.

616
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 5: Just doctor doctor, strangers doing surgery.

617
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 2: It up a portal, like what you're doing?

618
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 3: Seriously also as well, like couldn't you just yeah, open

619
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 3: a pool and put them asteroid through it? Couldn't Spider

620
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 3: Man make a giant web and it could just bounce off.

621
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 3: We've seen him do that many times. I don't know

622
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 3: it's almost like there's this weird kind of that's a

623
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 3: mutant problem.

624
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 2: Which is your problem.

625
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 4: It's your problem, it's your problem.

626
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 5: For sure. I think that is the stance.

627
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: I think this Listen, Cap and the rest of the

628
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: Avengers obviously.

629
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 4: No better and our friendly you know, air.

630
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: Quotes with mutants, know them well, understand that they're not

631
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: what they're portrayed to be. But there's also a big

632
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: incentive for Cap and the Avengers to be like, Okay,

633
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: that's a mutant problem. They'll handle it, and they'll also

634
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: be paying it as the bad guys when they handle it,

635
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: and we'll just step aside and won't ever raise our

636
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: voices about it, like that's fine, Like let's just let

637
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: that take place. And I think that is a really

638
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: complicated and cool, evocative, emotionally powerful kind of vibe to

639
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,239
Speaker 1: try and capture in live action. And I think it's

640
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: also I think it's vital to the experience of mutants

641
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: within Marvel stories. And I think it's also really hard

642
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: because it makes the Avengers look bad.

643
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly will they will they commit?

644
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 6: Okay, well, Alfree Winard already made them look bad when Alfrey.

645
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 3: In just two minutes come on, I mean, Tony Stark

646
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 3: is like a dunce. Let's be real, like he's in

647
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 3: that meeting doing nothing looking like okay, speaking of that,

648
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 3: before we let you go, who who's your favorite cameo?

649
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 3: If we're gonna give like a six MALEI the Year

650
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 3: Award aka favorite Cameo. We did get a lot of

651
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:03,239
Speaker 3: really good ones in this season, especially at the end

652
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 3: of this episode. We got some funny on the war

653
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 3: cameos too, So was there one that really made you

654
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 3: like most excited or like, why is that person there?

655
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have.

656
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 6: To go with Cap and that is only because Rogue,

657
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 6: like through his shield like a frissy, said.

658
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 2: Super soldier, go get it. And I enjoyed that.

659
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 5: Go get it.

660
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 4: That was fantastic.

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Speaker 3: I liked Alpha Flight with Silock. I was like, sure,

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Speaker 3: that's great. Also, I'm a dust stand so it was

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Speaker 3: nice to see her on the wall. Magic Exodus, I.

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Speaker 4: Guess he's alive before he died in Ganosha Jason, what

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Speaker 4: was the cameo that made you well?

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Speaker 5: You mentioned a lot.

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Speaker 1: I love that we saw Exodus one of the you know,

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Speaker 5: I think Boom Boom.

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Speaker 1: I loved seeing Boom Boom. I love Boom Boom's energy,

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Speaker 1: one of my favorites.

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Speaker 5: And strong guy.

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Speaker 1: Strong guy I like because he's a fun he's a simple,

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Speaker 1: simple kind of guy.

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Speaker 5: He's just strong, simple.

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Speaker 3: I was a big fan. As soon as I saw Davil,

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Speaker 3: I was like, Oh, that's cool. And then I saw

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Speaker 3: get I have the asteroid.

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Speaker 5: Well he's top of you. Yeah, but you didn't see that.

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Speaker 1: Right after that, he handed them a card for for

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Speaker 1: his law firm and said like, if you need something.

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Speaker 4: Oh, this is.

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Speaker 5: Hit up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god.

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Speaker 5: Hit up Foggy and Murdoch and we could take care

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Speaker 5: of you.

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Speaker 3: We'll defend you once I shipped you off to the

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Speaker 3: police and then we get the funds from from the city.

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Speaker 1: Thanks well, Steph, thanks so much for joining us. Do

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Speaker 1: you have anything to promote?

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Speaker 4: Where can people find you?

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Speaker 6: You love the animated series, You'll love this.

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Speaker 2: Because it's based on that.

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Speaker 6: I've got Star Trek celebrations coming out at the end

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Speaker 4: Ninth, Yeah, five hundredth issue right, oh.

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Speaker 6: five hundred September fourth, and then My Little Pony and

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Speaker 6: ponies they almost broke me. Superhero stuff ride it all day.

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Speaker 6: Ponies brought me to my knees.

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Speaker 4: So you beat go out and pre order that one. Please,

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Speaker 4: I'm whare Can people find you online?

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Speaker 2: I'm on Twitter now.

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Speaker 6: No, I'm not on Twitter, but if you want to

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Speaker 6: dig up old tweets, you can go to ed Stuff,

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Speaker 4: Hey, thanks, thank you, Thankstav.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Omnibus, where Lord, analysis

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Speaker 1: and understanding come together. Today Rosie is recommending us the

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Speaker 1: best comics read if you loved X Men ninety seven,

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Speaker 1: and she's also digging back into their relevance and the

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Speaker 1: creators who made them.

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Speaker 4: So if you've listened to Xtra Vision over the years.

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Speaker 3: You'll know that we're huge X fans, no surprise is there,

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Speaker 3: and that our formative years and comics fandom were shaped

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Speaker 3: by these books.

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Speaker 4: But we're also aware that it.

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Speaker 3: Can be very overwhelming to take on sixty years of cannon.

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Speaker 3: So now The X Men ninety seven has finished its

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Speaker 3: first season and lots of folks are asking us what

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Speaker 3: comics they should read, which you guys have been doing

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Speaker 3: throughout the season. We are here to guide you through

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Speaker 3: four of our must read picks oh five. One of

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Speaker 3: them is a short one if you want to read

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Speaker 3: something as the dust settles from season one.

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Speaker 4: So we're beginning with.

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Speaker 3: Giant sized X Men number one, Lemueen and Dave Cochran,

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Speaker 3: which hits shelves in nineteen seventy five. It's one of

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Speaker 3: the books that Jason and I first bonded over when

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Speaker 3: I first did my audition for Vision and is arguably

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Speaker 3: the single most important X Men book since the very

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Speaker 3: first issue.

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Speaker 4: So what makes it so important?

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Speaker 3: Well, in nineteen seventy X Men sixty six became the

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Speaker 3: last new issue of the failing book before it became

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Speaker 3: a reprint title. It was five years later that Ween

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Speaker 3: and Cockrum took on the iconic team, reimagining them as

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Speaker 3: global heroes from around the world. Beginning with four new characters.

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Speaker 3: There was Colossus from the Soviet Union, the Kenyan heroine Storm,

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Speaker 3: German teleporter, night Crawler, and the superhuman aparche Thunderbird. Fighting

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Speaker 3: alongside them were Banshee and Sunfire, who had recently been

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Speaker 3: introduced in other comics, and a little known Incredible Hult

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Speaker 3: character called Wolverine.

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Speaker 2: Have You had of him?

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Speaker 4: Might Have had of Him?

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Speaker 3: In the vital issue, the original X Men have been

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Speaker 3: kidnapped and taken to the island known as Krakoa, and

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Speaker 3: the new team I needed to help rescue them. Aside

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Speaker 3: from being an important issue in X history, it's a

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Speaker 3: great jumping on point and revitalized the franchise, and in

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Speaker 3: regards to X Men ninety seven specifically, it basically introduced

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Speaker 3: many of the core characters that you know in love.

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Speaker 3: Next up is X Men from the Ashes, which encompasses

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Speaker 3: X Men one sixty eight to one seventy six, and

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Speaker 3: the arc takes its name from the first trade paperback

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Speaker 3: that collected it.

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Speaker 4: It's also obviously.

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Speaker 3: The inspiration for the New from the Ashes relaunch that

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Speaker 3: we talked about in previously on. It tells a story

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Speaker 3: of the X Men just as they returned from space

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Speaker 3: and are dealing with the loss of Cyclops, who has

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Speaker 3: gone back to his roots in Alaska. While there, he

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Speaker 3: meets a beautiful young pilot named Madeline Pryor, who just

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Speaker 3: so happens to look like his dearly departed wife, Jean

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Speaker 3: Gray shocking. Representing the Lion's share of Paul Smith's time

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Speaker 3: on the X Men working with Chris Claremont, this is

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Speaker 3: a key arc for many reasons, not least Madeline Pryor

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Speaker 3: rogue joins the X Men team and the infamous words

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Speaker 3: Professor Xavier is a jerk. All of those moments were

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Speaker 3: deeply influential on X Men ninety seven, and this arc

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Speaker 3: featured not only Paul Smith, but iconic artist Walt Simonson

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Speaker 3: on Uncanny X Men one seventy one and the beginning

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Speaker 3: of John Remiter. June is long run on the series

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Speaker 3: with issue Uncanny x Men one seventy six. It's also

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Speaker 3: interesting to note that Smith's slick and clean style has

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Speaker 3: clearly helped shape the visual landscape.

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Speaker 4: Of the animated series.

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Speaker 3: Plus we get to meet the Morlocks and Storm's iconic

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Speaker 3: Punk Transformation, both things we got glimpses of in X

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Speaker 3: Men ninety seven. Now our third pick is Inferno, which

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Speaker 3: you've heard us talk about as we've covered the show,

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Speaker 3: which stands as one of the earlier examples of a

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Speaker 3: Superio crossover that cut into numerous ongoing series, meaning technically

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Speaker 3: lots of issues count as being a part of it. However,

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Speaker 3: that means you have two options. You can pick up

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Speaker 3: the trade collections if you want to read every single issue,

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Speaker 3: or you can just read Uncanny X Men two thirty

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Speaker 3: nine to two forty three for the core story. This

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Speaker 3: is a culmination of Maddi Pryor's story arc, featuring her

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Speaker 3: becoming the Goblin Queen, who we talked quite extensively about.

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Speaker 3: Cyclops left a while ago when Jean Gray returned and

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Speaker 3: of course took Maddie's son Nathan with him, Boo his

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Speaker 3: sister Tomorrow Tomorrow bad Dad behavior the X Men at

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Speaker 3: Outlaws living in the Australian Outback, and in the time

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Speaker 3: since Maddie's debut, mister Sinister has arrived in his campy

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Speaker 3: cloak and has been made her primary antagonist. Episode three,

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Speaker 3: Fire Made Flesh took heavily from this, giving us a

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Speaker 3: mini Inferno. But in the comics, this was a sprawling

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Speaker 3: story arc that had been bubbling for a long time. Notably,

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Speaker 3: the X Men issues in Inferno are drawn by Mark Silvestri,

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Speaker 3: one of the most influential ex artists of his time. Interestingly,

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Speaker 3: what you won't see reflected on the show is the

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Speaker 3: line up here, as nearly every character on the X

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Speaker 3: team at this time in the eighties is someone who

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Speaker 3: hasn't received significant screen time in X Men ninety seven.

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Speaker 4: Now, this is our mini entry. Fatal Attractions is here

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Speaker 4: for two reasons.

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Speaker 3: It's where Magneto rips the Adamantium off Wolverine skeleton in

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Speaker 3: one of the most iconic moments in X history, and

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Speaker 3: it features everyone's baddest dad, Charles mind wiping Magneto, which

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Speaker 3: you may have seen in the finale of X Men

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Speaker 3: ninety seven. And that leads to the eventual Onslaught story arc,

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Speaker 3: which we also talked about last week. Picking up on

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Speaker 3: the rossover model pioneered by Inferno, this ran through multiple series,

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Speaker 3: but only for one issue each, So the best way

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Speaker 3: to read this is to get the collection from your

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Speaker 3: favorite local comic shop, because otherwise it's pretty hard to follow.

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Speaker 4: Our final choice.

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Speaker 3: Is a comic that me and Jason loved dearly. E

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Speaker 3: Is for Extinction, the first volume of Grant Morrison and

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Speaker 3: Frank Quietly's New X Men series, which feels like a

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Speaker 3: funny inclusion seeing, is actually debuted in two thousand and one,

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Speaker 3: four years after X Men ninety seven is set. But

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Speaker 3: remember the episode that broke the Internet?

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Speaker 7: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Episode five takes directly from this incredibly influential series that

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Speaker 3: recast the X Men as rockstar celebrities living in a

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Speaker 3: world that no longer hated and fears them. This ran

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Speaker 3: through the renamed X Men series New x Men issues

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Speaker 3: one fourteen to one sixteen, and for just three issues,

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Speaker 3: it played a large role in shaping X Men ninety seven.

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Speaker 3: Maddie and Scott's psychic Affair was adapted from these pages,

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Speaker 3: though there he was cheating with Ma Frost. The three

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Speaker 3: part season ender takes half its title from its pages,

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Speaker 3: and the sentinel evolution and self repairing sentinels and sentience

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Speaker 3: sentinels all come from this someone who isn't featured in

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Speaker 3: X Men ninety seven, but who was recently confirmed as

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Speaker 3: the main antagonist in the upcoming Deadpool movie is Charles's

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Speaker 3: evil twin sister, Cassandra Nova, who made her debut in

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Speaker 3: the fan favorite new X Men series.

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Speaker 4: So there they are.

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Speaker 3: Those are the comics you should read if you loved

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Speaker 3: X Men ninety seven.

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Speaker 1: We love to end our show with a series of

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Speaker 1: fast moving segments. Today it's Who's Who, in which we

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Speaker 1: will be naming our favorite X Men antagonists. Rosie, you

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Speaker 1: got wool Baby.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna go for like least favorite and more

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Speaker 3: like weird. So I'm gonna go for Ice Scream, who

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Speaker 3: was created by Alan Kopperberg in nineteen eighty three and

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Speaker 3: only made one appearance in Obnoxio the Clown Number One,

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Speaker 3: but did fight against the X Men, and he could

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Speaker 3: turn himself into any flavor of ice cream. I still

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Speaker 3: think of you often, ice Cream. I believe that you

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Speaker 3: can be redeemed and come back and fight the X Man.

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Speaker 4: Who's yours.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna select Robert Edward Kelly, former senator now President

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Speaker 1: of the United States make America human again. He ran

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Speaker 1: for office on a variety of anti mutant platforms.

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Speaker 4: Surely has comeback.

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Speaker 1: He's also got pretty strong ties to the hell Fire Club. Wait,

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Speaker 1: till he finds out who runs the hell Fire Club,

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Speaker 1: and now he's President the United States, he gets to

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Speaker 1: tell Captain America when he can go take a piss,

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Speaker 1: Robert Edward Kelly, You're President. Next week we'll be diving

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Speaker 1: into the post apocalyptic nuclear waste with episodes about Fallout

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Speaker 1: and Godzilla and don't forget. Tomorrow we'll have a very

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Speaker 1: special bonus episode on the Fantastic The Funny not meaning

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Speaker 1: to be funny, but really entertaining in its own way, Madam.

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Speaker 4: Webb los Loss.

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Speaker 5: That's it for our episode. Thanks is bing bye.

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Speaker 1: X ray Vision is hosted by Jason Concepcion and Rosie

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Speaker 1: Knight and is a production of iHeart Podcasts. Our executive

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Speaker 1: producers are Joelle Smith and Aaron Kaufman.

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Speaker 5: Our supervising producer is a Boo Zafar.

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Speaker 1: Our producers are Carmen Laurent and Mia Taylor. Our theme

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Speaker 1: song is by Brian Basquez.

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Speaker 3: Special thanks to Soul Rubin and Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman

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Speaker 3: and Heidi A disco moderata