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Speaker 1: Hi guys.

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Speaker 2: I'm Rachel Lindsay and I'm Ali Fortitowski Mano, and you

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Speaker 2: are listening to Bachelor Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: This is our first podcast.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 4: I'm so excited.

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Speaker 1: We've been talking about this for a while.

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Speaker 2: This is something that we're really passionate about, and we

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Speaker 2: feel like as two former bachelorettes who have two completely

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Speaker 2: different stories, we've got a lot that we can tell.

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Speaker 4: You've been the success story. I am the failure.

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Speaker 1: Okay, tell you're in Bachelor Nation, but not outside about that.

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Speaker 4: In life, not in life.

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Speaker 3: I know, I'm so excited about this show, you guys,

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Speaker 3: because I have been a super fan of the show

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Speaker 3: ever since I was a bachelorette. It's pretty much a

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Speaker 3: decade ago, ten years ago. Now we're gonna have the

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Speaker 3: most exclusive guests on this podcast.

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Speaker 2: No, we're going to have breaking news. We're going to

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Speaker 2: have guests before anyone else gets them.

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Speaker 1: On the podcast.

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Speaker 2: We'll be giving behind the scenes information only that two

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Speaker 2: former bachelorettes can give.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, all the behind the scenes and bo it's funny.

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Speaker 3: One of my followers I posted that I was going

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Speaker 3: to be doing something with Bachelor Nation, and the first

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Speaker 3: thing my follower said was, no, you're always so honest

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Speaker 3: about the episodes on your blog, don't not be on

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Speaker 3: the podcast, And I.

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Speaker 1: Was like, oh, no, no, no no.

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Speaker 3: This podcast is going to be the truth, the raw truth,

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Speaker 3: all the editing secrets, all the behind the scenes goodies

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Speaker 3: with the producers.

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Speaker 2: We will definitely tell you I have no filter. I

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Speaker 2: don't know how to do anything but keep it real.

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Speaker 2: And I feel like that's exactly what you're gonna get

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Speaker 2: when you listen to this podcast.

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Speaker 1: So I can't wait.

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Speaker 3: Today's very first podcast is so good. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 3: there's so much to break down. We're gonna have amazing

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Speaker 3: guests on the podcast too. We have Demi, who's Hannah's

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Speaker 3: best friend and was with her when all the jet

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Speaker 3: stuff went down.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to hear what she's gonna have to

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Speaker 2: say because Demmy always keeps it honest and realm.

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Speaker 5: M like you.

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Speaker 4: I feel like you guys are like long lost sisters

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Speaker 4: my girl.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've loved her for a distance from a long time,

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Speaker 2: so I can't wait to hear what she's gonna say.

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Speaker 2: But and we've got Peter coming on the show, who

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Speaker 2: we're going to be the first ones to talk to

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Speaker 2: him since after the final rows. I can't wait to

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Speaker 2: hear what he's going to say. I have all the questions.

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Speaker 2: You know, we're going to ask him, questions that maybe

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Speaker 2: aren't TV appropriate, that only we.

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Speaker 1: Can have in this safe space on our happy hout.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I thought you meant naughty things. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: not sweet little things.

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Speaker 2: I'm asking Peter whatever I want, like beware but tune in.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's so funny because what I can't wait to

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Speaker 3: talk to him about when we'll get to this in

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Speaker 3: a minute, but is that he's so innocent. He like

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Speaker 3: reminds me of my little brother, but like he's the

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Speaker 3: windmill guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to get into that with him, he's

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Speaker 1: the windmill guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I want to know how he felt about

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Speaker 2: Hannah revealing that, and there's so many other questions to

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Speaker 2: ask him that. But yeah, we definitely have to ask

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Speaker 2: him about the Hannah jet situation because he lived with Jed.

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Speaker 2: He knows Jed, and he can give a different perspective

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Speaker 2: than what we're seeing or what we're reading in magazines.

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Speaker 3: It's hard to be that excited right now because of

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Speaker 3: everything that went down on the live taping of the Bachelorette.

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Speaker 2: I know, I feel like I'm excited, I'm frustrated, I'm confused,

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Speaker 2: I'm upset. There are so many emotions going through me

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Speaker 2: right now after watching that finale. I've never seen anything

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Speaker 3: I think we should save the jet stuff for the end. Though,

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Speaker 3: that's like too sad. I can't even get into that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's heavy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's start on a light note, right because this

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Speaker 2: is the first time the people are listening to us,

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Speaker 2: So let's start on a high note.

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Speaker 4: Let's do it.

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Speaker 3: And I think that high note is a one word,

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Speaker 3: and that is Tyler and Hannah.

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Speaker 4: Tyler and Hannah together. Sorry, I'm a little bit jealous

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Speaker 3: I'm married with two children, and I'm like, oh gosh,

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Speaker 4: Tyler is so hot.

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Speaker 2: We ended the finale with her asking Tyler out on

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Speaker 2: the date, asking him to go have drinks, and he accepted.

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Speaker 4: Are we about to have our first fight? Rachel? Is

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Speaker 4: that what you're telling me?

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Speaker 1: We're about first fight?

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Speaker 4: I'm kidding. All right, Well, let's see if our opinions differ.

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Speaker 3: My thoughts were. I'm happy for them, Okay, I'm happy

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Speaker 3: for them. I think that if they are able to

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Speaker 3: make this relationship work after him sort of being her

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Speaker 3: second choice, I'm happy if they can do that. Do

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Speaker 3: I think that's probable, Probably not, but I wish them

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Speaker 3: the best. That's sort of where I sort of come

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Speaker 3: out on all of that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna do a compliment sandwich here. Okay, so

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna start off with something positive, but I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: stuff it with some negativity.

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Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be the meat of it.

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Speaker 2: I love that it ended on a high note because

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Speaker 2: I really do feel sorry for Hannah and all of this.

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Speaker 2: And you know, we have enjoyed a great season. There

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Speaker 2: have been a lot of highs and lows, and it

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Speaker 2: has been extremely entertaining, but at the expense of Hannah

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Speaker 2: and her emotions, and so it was nice to see

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Speaker 1: I appreciated that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's one side of the right stuff in the sandwich.

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Speaker 2: I think there have to be lessons learned from this

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Speaker 2: whole journey that she's had, and one of those is

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Speaker 2: to kind of go through this in a logical way.

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Speaker 1: Don't just lead with your heart. Lead with your emotions.

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Speaker 2: Don't become infatuated and get caught up in the moment.

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Speaker 2: You really have to think things through and take your time.

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Speaker 2: And so I really hope that she does that with Tyler.

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Speaker 2: But I agree with you, I just don't see that

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Speaker 2: that can actually happen. At the same time, for Tyler,

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Speaker 2: it's like she didn't pick you. She said she was

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Speaker 2: in love with someone else that didn't work out. Now

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Speaker 2: I want to talk to you. Is he just caught

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Speaker 3: To answer to both of your kind of points, is

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Speaker 3: I don't think this was a spur of the moment decision.

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Speaker 3: I think they've been texting. I think they've been in contact.

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Speaker 3: I mean when she came up on that stage or

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Speaker 3: he came up rather, that was not the first time

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Speaker 4: Come on.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you. I don't think that's the first

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Speaker 2: time they've talked. I think that it was not a

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Speaker 2: was caught off guard. If you saw his face, he

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Speaker 2: kind of was like, I mean, yeah, we can have

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Speaker 2: a drink and catch up. You know, he didn't say

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Speaker 2: I'm all in, let's get this whole thing started. He

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Speaker 2: wasn't really on the same page. Now, to end this

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Speaker 2: with another positive note, I'm not mad at it because

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Speaker 2: that knocks Tyler out of the running for Bachelor, and

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Speaker 2: I can.

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Speaker 1: Keep promoting Mike. Okay, now Mike, Mike steps it up again.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm for this, Rachel's for Mike, I'm for Peter.

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Speaker 4: So we're gonna also argue about that a little two

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Speaker 4: and brought me a few minutes into the podcast. But

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Speaker 3: Though, I'm gonna actually bring in the whole other aspect,

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Speaker 3: the fact that he's the runner up, her second choice.

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Speaker 4: Really, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: That that's necessarily a bad thing for the chances of

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Speaker 4: I mean, look at Ari and Lauren, like they have

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Speaker 4: a baby, and she was by far his second choice.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Alie, I think it's apples and oranges because he

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Speaker 2: made a conscious decision too. Yes, he chose back up,

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Speaker 2: but he made the conscious decision to end it and

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Speaker 2: then go after Lauren. You're right, now, that's not what

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Speaker 2: Hannah didn't make the choice to end it. Hannah, was

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Speaker 2: you know duped. You know she she's dating or was

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Speaker 2: engaged to somebody who turned out to be a completely

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Speaker 2: different person. By default, she has decided to go back

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Speaker 2: to Tyler. It's not by choice.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm definitely with you there.

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Speaker 3: There is obviously so much we could talk about, but

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Speaker 3: I feel like we really need to go all the

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Speaker 3: way back to the beginning and really rehash, like how

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Speaker 3: some interesting feeling. You always tell it like it is, Rachel.

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Speaker 3: That's one of the reasons I feel like that's what

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Speaker 3: we bonded even when.

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Speaker 4: We first met.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and you weren't totally thrilled with Hannah becoming the Bachelor?

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Speaker 4: Is that right?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 2: And I'm glad you asked me that question because I

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Speaker 2: really want to clear that up. The reason I said

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Speaker 2: I wasn't thrilled. One, I was caught off guard on

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Speaker 2: the red carpet, which should never happen.

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Speaker 1: But two, because I had been such a.

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Speaker 2: Proponent for an older bachelorette, I wasn't really into I

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Speaker 2: never thought they would reach back and pick number seven eight,

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Speaker 2: whatever Hannah was. I just was more of, like, you know, what,

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Speaker 2: let's do for the women what they've been doing for

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Speaker 2: the men. You know, for the Bachelor, they've gone back

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Speaker 2: and they've picked older bachelors, So why not do it

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Speaker 2: for the women?

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Speaker 1: That is all I meant by that.

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Speaker 2: But I will say and watching Hannah, you can see

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Speaker 2: the progression of Hannah during her season, and I feel

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Speaker 2: like the Bachelor, everybody has their own journey. Let's go

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Speaker 2: ahead and start using these bachelor cliches. This is bachelor happy,

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Speaker 2: so why not. But everyone has their own journey, whether

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Speaker 2: that be a journey of love, whether that be a

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Speaker 2: journey of heartache, or whether that just be a journey

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Speaker 2: of self awareness and learning who you are. And that's

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Speaker 2: what I feel like we're getting from Hannah. You can

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Speaker 2: see that in episode nine. She is not the same

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Speaker 3: Rose absolutely and even the same Hannah that said stay

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Speaker 3: in your lane exactly.

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Speaker 1: And I have enjoyed watching Hannah come into her own.

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Speaker 2: So you heard it here first. I have no problems

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Speaker 2: with Hannah bab none whatsoever. And I truly have enjoyed

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Speaker 2: watching her season. I've I've found it quite entertaining.

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Speaker 4: I thought it's been so good. I just I think too.

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Speaker 3: After Colton season, I thought, Okay, you know, every season

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Speaker 3: we hear Chris Harrison and Chris Harrison fashion say this

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Speaker 3: is the most dramatic season ever, and it just keeps

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Speaker 3: being true.

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Speaker 4: Like before he would say it.

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Speaker 3: And it was never really true for a while, Sorry Chris,

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Speaker 3: I don't believe necessarily came to deceive her. He came

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Speaker 3: Like I came on the show just when I was

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Speaker 3: right like I and I Really most people I've talked

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Speaker 3: I thought. I was going to go have some fun,

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Speaker 2: My thing with Jed is when Jed sat there and

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Speaker 2: He prefaced it by giving this whole soliloquy about how

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Speaker 2: Five years, that has been your world, and you're telling

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Speaker 1: Get out of here. I would not have been able

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Speaker 4: I see what you're saying.

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Speaker 6: I do, but I obviously I was right, and you're

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Speaker 1: But I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: I will give you that.

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Speaker 3: I will give you that, And with that, I think

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Speaker 3: We're like, please just call in. I adore Peter. I

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Speaker 2: I don't dislike Peter. I don't dislike Peter at all.

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Speaker 2: I think that Peter's like I don't know, Magoo Magoo like.

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Speaker 2: I just don't think that there's I think Peter is

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Speaker 1: I think that he seems like a really sweet boy.

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Speaker 2: But I'm not like swept off my feet when it

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Speaker 2: I don't sway either way when it comes to Peter.

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Speaker 4: I love him. I just think he's so sweet.

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Speaker 3: He's so and what I liked about him though you

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Speaker 4: He like, I love dorks.

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Speaker 4: So I love you, babe. I'm probably gonna be that later,

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Speaker 3: He like awkwardly threw her on the pool table and

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Speaker 4: It was the best.

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Speaker 3: But after the Fantasy Sweet, after the windmill, that was

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I would think, well, maybe something happened.

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Speaker 2: I just think she described him as his kindle, as

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Speaker 2: I think it was this when I when I really

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Speaker 1: It wasn't that you were so into him, Like he's.

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Speaker 2: Just a good guy, a great package, but he just

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 3: Well, it seems like now it's a good time to

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Speaker 4: Let's go ahead and dial him up.

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Speaker 2: You got his number, Yeah, I'll do it.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Peter, welcome to our podcast. Oh my gosh, we're

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Speaker 5: Hey, guys. Yeah, I'm stuppy to be here. Thanks for

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Speaker 2: Yes, thank you so much for being here and talking

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Speaker 2: to us. This is our very first podcast. It's called

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Speaker 2: Bachelor Happy Hour.

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Speaker 4: We're so happy to have you on it.

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Speaker 1: So thank you for being here.

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Speaker 2: But also you're welcome because you're about to have such

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Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to all.

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Speaker 4: Right, we have so many questions, so I say we

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Speaker 3: So Peter, oh my gosh, my heart broke when everything

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Speaker 1: You've got to walk us through that.

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Speaker 4: I mean you had to have been blindsided in that moment.

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Speaker 7: You know, I remember going into so I was the

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Speaker 7: was was just so amazing.

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00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:08,600
Speaker 5: Our relationship.

447
00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,960
Speaker 7: I truly felt, you know, was on that next level

448
00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,399
Speaker 7: and that was you know, that was my person. So

449
00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,520
Speaker 7: I remember going to that ceremony still feeling very very confident,

450
00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:20,080
Speaker 7: had a little bit of nerves, but just feeling so good.

451
00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:20,520
Speaker 5: About it all.

452
00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,200
Speaker 7: And then you know, she calls Jed's name and there's

453
00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,200
Speaker 7: one more Rose there, and you know, obviously the nerves

454
00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,360
Speaker 7: are starting to pick up, but I still felt really.

455
00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:28,719
Speaker 5: Good about it.

456
00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,320
Speaker 7: And then and then she you know, says Tyler's name,

457
00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:36,200
Speaker 7: and I just remember like going into complete shock and

458
00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:40,840
Speaker 7: just being completely blindsided. Just didn't expect that whatsoever. I

459
00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,199
Speaker 7: remember just kind of I felt like I had no emotion.

460
00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,760
Speaker 7: And and then she, you know, Hannah asked if she

461
00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,639
Speaker 7: could you know, walk me out and talk a little bit,

462
00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,679
Speaker 7: and we sat down and talked, but I just remember again,

463
00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:52,880
Speaker 7: I was in so much shocked that I couldn't even

464
00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,119
Speaker 7: I didn't even think to ask her, you know, why

465
00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,160
Speaker 7: what happened? And just in that moment, my brain wasn't

466
00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,399
Speaker 7: processing that. It just was like, wow, this is this

467
00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,600
Speaker 7: is it? Like this is done, the relationships, it's over now.

468
00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,919
Speaker 7: And then I saw that car. Yeah, and it was

469
00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:08,560
Speaker 7: just all the emotion flooded out.

470
00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,320
Speaker 4: Well where did you think you ranked? Like, I mean,

471
00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,160
Speaker 4: did you think you were her number one? Or were

472
00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:14,720
Speaker 4: you like, oh maybe, like I know.

473
00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,720
Speaker 3: Jed and her are really close, Like how did you

474
00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,320
Speaker 3: feel about that? Like where you were in terms of

475
00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:20,639
Speaker 3: all the guys?

476
00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:21,400
Speaker 4: Yeah?

477
00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,760
Speaker 7: I knew that, you know, she had solid relationships with

478
00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,760
Speaker 7: with Jed. I'd seen that, you know, just from the

479
00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,640
Speaker 7: couple of group dates that I was on, and same

480
00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,880
Speaker 7: with Tyler, So I knew she had solid.

481
00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:33,720
Speaker 5: Relationships with them.

482
00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,280
Speaker 7: But I after that date that we had and just

483
00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,160
Speaker 7: you know, waking up the next morning and saying bye

484
00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,480
Speaker 7: to her, I had zero doubt that that it was

485
00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,880
Speaker 7: me and her. So that's kind of just what made

486
00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,159
Speaker 7: it so hard, and you know, just kind of blindsided

487
00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:48,000
Speaker 7: me from it.

488
00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,360
Speaker 4: Well, you we all, we know all about your fantasy suite.

489
00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Peter, I mean, let's let's talk about it, right,

490
00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,520
Speaker 2: because Hannah did. Hannah talked about it, and I just

491
00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:02,280
Speaker 2: have to ask you, how did you feel with Hannah

492
00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,560
Speaker 2: outing you about the details of your fantasy suite?

493
00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,560
Speaker 1: And I know we don't know everything, but she did

494
00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:08,320
Speaker 1: kind of put.

495
00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,440
Speaker 2: It out there and I'm sure before asking for your permission,

496
00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:12,840
Speaker 2: So how did that make you feel?

497
00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:14,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, she did.

498
00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,399
Speaker 7: I think, uh, I think it's definitely a parent that

499
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:19,240
Speaker 7: Hanna and I put the.

500
00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:20,560
Speaker 5: Windmill on the map now, but.

501
00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,399
Speaker 7: We uh yeah, I wasn't expecting it, just because you know,

502
00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:30,160
Speaker 7: obviously there's you know, it's a very intimate experience and

503
00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,280
Speaker 7: you know that privacy usually the details don't come out.

504
00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,960
Speaker 7: But kind of watching it back and seeing why it

505
00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,720
Speaker 7: came out and what caused you to do that, it

506
00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:39,439
Speaker 7: made sense to me.

507
00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,200
Speaker 5: And honestly, there is no hard feelings there.

508
00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,480
Speaker 7: I understand being in the heated, heated moment like that,

509
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,760
Speaker 7: things slip, you say things, and that's exactly what happened

510
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,520
Speaker 7: and with her, so you.

511
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:51,600
Speaker 5: Know, it is what it is.

512
00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 7: I'm I'm honestly, I'm very comfortable you know, with my

513
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,280
Speaker 7: sexuality and talking about sex like that. So I'm not

514
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,159
Speaker 7: I think I'm I guess the anti Luke in that regard,

515
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:05,400
Speaker 7: but it was, Yeah, it is what it is, and yes,

516
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:06,439
Speaker 7: the whole world knows now.

517
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,399
Speaker 4: But and wind mills will never be the same. No

518
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 4: one will go to windmill the same way again.

519
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:14,440
Speaker 5: It's insane.

520
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Peter, we know you're comfortable. We remember the

521
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 2: condoms in the car in the console. You want to

522
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:22,919
Speaker 2: dress that, you want to.

523
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 1: Address that too.

524
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 7: No, no, no, that was just that was an honest mistake.

525
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 7: I truly forgot. I didn't have my car for like

526
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 7: two months.

527
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 4: I forgot safety first. I'm always great.

528
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,439
Speaker 2: But I have to ask you, because we all, we

529
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 2: all fell in love with your parents and just your

530
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 2: family in general. You guys were fantastic. You had such

531
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,440
Speaker 2: a great bond. What did your family think about all

532
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 2: this talk about you and the windmill and Hannah. I mean,

533
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,200
Speaker 2: was it a little embarrassing for them?

534
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:55,119
Speaker 5: I mean, honestly, yeah, it was probably a little bit uncomfortable.

535
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,879
Speaker 7: You don't expect your your private life like that to

536
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 7: just be displayed to the world and then and then

537
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 7: possibly watch an episode with your parents or some of

538
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,120
Speaker 7: that stuff comes out. But they were honestly, they were

539
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 7: so great about it. Yes, it could have been very awkward,

540
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 7: and I guess, like I said, it was a little

541
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 7: bit uncomfortable, but you know.

542
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 5: They were cool about it.

543
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 7: They were just you know, making making fun about it

544
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 7: a little bit, and they didn't.

545
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 5: Take it too seriously.

546
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 7: So my family has always been very very supportive, and uh,

547
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 7: yeah it was.

548
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,680
Speaker 3: It was all good, all right, Peter, But your buddies

549
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 3: had to be like four times, I guess not once,

550
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,679
Speaker 3: people be four times in all seriousness. You know, we

551
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,400
Speaker 3: can have a lot of fun talking about the windmill,

552
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 3: but you did get let go.

553
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 4: After all of that talk about the windmill.

554
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 3: So for me, how I sort of took it as

555
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 3: if you were watching is I was thinking, Okay, let's

556
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,679
Speaker 3: reverse gender roles here. Let's say it was the bachelor

557
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:51,239
Speaker 3: talking about, you know, the windmill with a girl and

558
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 3: then letting her go home. That's hurtful to me, Like

559
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 3: that must have really really been hurtful to you.

560
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 5: It was. It definitely was.

561
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 7: Being yeah, I guess, being completely honest, it did mess with.

562
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 5: Me a little bit.

563
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 7: Just because that was such an amazing, you know night

564
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 7: for us, and I really, yeah, it hurt it was tough,

565
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 7: and it took me a while to kind of process

566
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 7: it and whatnot. But at the end of the day,

567
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 7: you know, it's Hannah had her reasons. She followed her heart.

568
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 5: That's what she told us she was going to do

569
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 5: from the very beginning and forever.

570
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 7: Whatever reason, you know, it wasn't me and she didn't

571
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 7: feel it with me, so you know it's it's not

572
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 7: a reason for her to keep me just because of

573
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 7: the windmill and that one amazing night we had.

574
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 4: But see, this is why I love you. You are

575
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 4: so sweet.

576
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 5: They are real feelings. And the one thing.

577
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 7: I will say is, you know, with Hannah and being

578
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 7: I can't even imagine being in her position. Just that's

579
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 7: got to be so much more difficult balancing multiple relationships,

580
00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 7: not just me looking at just one. If if that's

581
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 7: what she felt like she needed to do, If that's

582
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 7: you know, she had every right to pursue her each

583
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 7: relationship in whatever way she wanted to do. And yes,

584
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 7: obviously there's true feelings there and my heart you know,

585
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 7: was broken at the end of this and and whatnot.

586
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 7: But if that's what she felt like she needed for

587
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 7: her relationship, to make the decisions or whatnot. And obviously

588
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 7: intimacy is you know, a very important part of a relationship.

589
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 7: That's her call and she's entitled to do that, and

590
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 7: it is what it is.

591
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 2: Well good, since you have no regrets, h do you

592
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 2: want to be the next Bachelor, let's talk about it?

593
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 3: Why not?

594
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 4: Peter? I am all for Peter being the next Bachelor.

595
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 7: You guys are awesome. I appreciate that. Yes, yeah, the

596
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 7: story answer is that I would love that. Absolutely. I've

597
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 7: you know, been through this experience. I know it works.

598
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 5: I've fallen in love.

599
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,919
Speaker 7: I've spent you know, about two months traveling the world,

600
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 7: going on amazing experiences and just truly getting amos with

601
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 7: someone and falling in love with them. So absolutely, I

602
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,679
Speaker 7: know it works. There's no reason I wouldn't want to,

603
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 7: you know, pursue it as the bachelor and and hope,

604
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 7: you know, at the end, like I can find my

605
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 7: person finally and and have an amazing time of doing it.

606
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 5: So yes, if that's offered, I cannot just.

607
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 2: Say I appreciate you saying that, because sometimes people like

608
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 2: beat around the bush.

609
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: Oh I'm not sure.

610
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 4: I'm open to finding love again.

611
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know, good for you, Peter, own it.

612
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, But how do you feel about Hannah now?

613
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 4: Like, have you completely moved on?

614
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 7: Being very honest with you guys, I wasn't one hundred

615
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 7: percent over over the whole relationship. I needed to get

616
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 7: some answers from her and and just some closure, and

617
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 7: so I definitely needed that.

618
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 5: But you know, I'm feeling I'm feeling.

619
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 7: A lot better after having that opportunity to see her

620
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 7: and kind of closing, closing that chapter and you know,

621
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 7: hopefully moving on to to another one and and uh

622
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 7: and hopefully the best is yet to come.

623
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 5: You know.

624
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,199
Speaker 2: So, Peter, you really seem like your whole heart was

625
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 2: in all of this. You know, you could see the emotion.

626
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 2: You could see that you were very sincere and very

627
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 2: honest and just all in. There was never a question

628
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 2: about your loyalty to Hannah throughout this season.

629
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 1: When you watched the.

630
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 2: Season back and you saw Jed sit there and say

631
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 2: that he came on for the wrong reasons, what was

632
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,199
Speaker 2: your initial thought about that?

633
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,360
Speaker 5: You know, he was being honest.

634
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 7: Uh, you know, that's obviously that's that's kind of a

635
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 7: weird thing. You know, you, yes, I came on this show.

636
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 7: This wasn't going to help my job whatsoever. I I

637
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 7: you know, I wasn't looking for anything else besides just

638
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 7: the opportunity.

639
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,919
Speaker 5: You know, it's to meet my person.

640
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 7: And being the hopeless romantic I was, this is the

641
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,959
Speaker 7: craziest and most amazing opportunity to do that.

642
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 5: So I took it.

643
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 7: And yes, that was my main thing going into the show.

644
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 7: And then hearing that from Jed, you know, it's teachus on.

645
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 5: He had his.

646
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 7: Reasons, but I also know Jed and Jed is a

647
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 7: good person, and I had a lot of talks to

648
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 7: Jed in the house, and I know his feelings for

649
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 7: Hannah were very, very true and genuine and obviously their

650
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 7: relationship really really suck off, and you know they fell

651
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 7: in love with each other, and you know I by that.

652
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 3: So you know, I love Peter that you're sharing what

653
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 3: he said to you, you know, because we just see

654
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 3: the outside and we're like, does he really have feelings

655
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 3: for her?

656
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 4: Is he sort of playing it up?

657
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 3: And so I love that you know, you've shared with

658
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 3: us that he sat down with you and like told

659
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 3: you how he was feeling about her.

660
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 5: Yeah.

661
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 7: I remember, I remember being in the mansion one of

662
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 7: the first it was after his first date we were

663
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 7: on yeah, after the mystery, right, and he came back

664
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 7: and he was like, we're just raving about it.

665
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 5: You could just see the glow in his face and

666
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 5: he was just just.

667
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 7: It was just me and we're doing laundry upstairs, and

668
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 7: he's like, dude, this this girl's amazing. And I hadn't

669
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 7: really had an opportunity at to go on a date

670
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 7: with her yet, but I knew what I had seen

671
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 7: from a little I had interaction I'd had with her,

672
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 7: and I was just so excited to start getting and

673
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 7: over and yeah, I like I said, I know Jud's

674
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 7: is a great.

675
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 5: Dude, and his feelions were very, very true for her.

676
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 7: I want someone that you know, wants me just as

677
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 7: badly as I want them. And I wouldn't want Hannah

678
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 7: to have wanted me just because she found out, you know,

679
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 7: this truth about Jed. And then she was likees, Okay,

680
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 7: now now I'll go to Peter.

681
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 4: I think that's a perfect answer.

682
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 1: You're so right.

683
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,719
Speaker 3: You want somebody to love you so unconditionally and intensely

684
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 3: that it doesn't matter the outside what's going on.

685
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 7: I don't want any other factor having anything to do

686
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 7: with that. I just want me and that person who's

687
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 7: had such an amazing connection that that's all that matters,

688
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 7: and that's why we both choose each other.

689
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: Oh, Peter, I want that for you too.

690
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 7: But one funny thing I will say, it's this is hilarious.

691
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 7: No one probably knows about the windmill. I feel like

692
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 7: she's really bad about it. But Hannah and I, so

693
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 7: when we were in it, before we you know, went upstairs,

694
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 7: there was this little chocolate strawberry set up there for

695
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 7: us to eat some sham pain. We're sitting downstairs and

696
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 7: then we start throwing I think they actually showed it

697
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 7: at one of the ends of the episodes of me

698
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 7: and her trying to throw in each other's mouth and

699
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 7: try to catch it. But the chocolate had started to melt,

700
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 7: and so we got really sticky in our fingers and

701
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 7: we couldn't really throw it right.

702
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 5: So these strawberries were going everywhere in the windmill and

703
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 5: getting everywhere.

704
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 7: And so the next morning, when we're leaving, one of

705
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 7: the producers comes to.

706
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 5: Me is like, yo, Peter, you guys destroyed that windmill.

707
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 7: That there was some like antique rugs that were on

708
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 7: the bottom we were sitting on, but all those strawberries

709
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 7: and the chocolate had melted all over and because essent

710
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 7: she destroyed all of it.

711
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 5: He's like, they're okay with that.

712
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 7: They're okay with them, but just just let you guys know, like,

713
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 7: oh my god, I feel horrible, But it was kind.

714
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 5: Of a funny little inside thing that happened there.

715
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,239
Speaker 4: I thought you were going somewhere else with that.

716
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 3: When you said like chocolate, I thought you were gonna

717
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 3: say like chocolate on the sheets, and somebody thought you

718
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 3: liked an accident in bed.

719
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 5: It wasn't that that. It wasn't that bad.

720
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 2: But Peter, with all the attention they you all gave

721
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 2: that windmill, I'm sure they made their money.

722
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: Four or five times over.

723
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 3: Couples that are uh, you know, wanting to re spark

724
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 3: the relationship have booked that windmill out for the next

725
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 3: five years.

726
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: Peter would say, Mike drop, Peter, thank you.

727
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 3: So much for coming on the podcast and talking with us,

728
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 3: and we just wish the best for you.

729
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 7: Thanks Peter, thanks so much, Gather appreciate it talking good bye.

730
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 4: All right, guys still to come.

731
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 3: We're going to get into everything that happened after the

732
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 3: final rows and whoo a lot happened there, and we're gonna.

733
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 4: Get to check to Demi.

734
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 3: She was one of the first people that Hannah talked

735
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 3: to when she got the news that Jed has a girlfriend.

736
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: But first we got to talk about Tyler.

737
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 3: Oh please, I will talk about Tyler all day long

738
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 3: because I adore him. Tell me you adore Tyler. I know,

739
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 3: you know, like Peter wasn't your favorite Like.

740
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: Peter, I just said he was for me. I do

741
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: like Tyler.

742
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people when they first saw Tyler,

743
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 2: they immediately summed him up, and I feel like that

744
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 2: that's probably what he goes through a lot. He's very

745
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 2: good looking, he's athletic, he played sports. You immediately just

746
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 2: think he's a jock and he's a player. I didn't

747
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 2: put those labels on Tyler.

748
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: Really, yeah, I did.

749
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 4: I have to demit.

750
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 6: I did.

751
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: From the beginning.

752
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 2: There was something about him that I just thought seemed

753
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 2: very sincere. He just seemed like, you know what, I'm

754
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 2: going to be very honest in this experience, and if

755
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 2: I feel Hannah, then I'm going to go with that.

756
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 2: And that's what I got from him the entire time.

757
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 2: I never doubted Tyler at all.

758
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 3: See I didn't even notice him at first. I just thought, oh,

759
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 3: you're right, You're right. I mean, I hate to say this,

760
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 3: but I thought some jock like. I honestly thought like, oh,

761
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 3: he doesn't. He's emotionally.

762
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 4: Not intelligent.

763
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 3: Emotionally, yeah, not intelligent like and oh my gosh, was

764
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 3: I wrong. One of my followers is who pointed it

765
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 3: out to me. She was like, oh my gosh, no,

766
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 3: Hannah and Hannah and Tyler are gonna end up together.

767
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 3: And I was like what. And then I started looking,

768
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 3: and I was like, not only do they have this

769
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 3: crazy connection? And I think Hannah herself even said it

770
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 3: started a little bit later. But he is so in

771
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 3: tune with his emotions and feelings, and every single time

772
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 3: he spoke, he blew me away. And I think what

773
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 3: blew me away the most was his love for Hannah.

774
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, you loved her.

775
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: That's because he's been through some things.

776
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: He's been through some life experiences and that makes you

777
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 2: mature really fast. And so yes, although he was young,

778
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 2: I think he's twenty five, twenty six, twenty five, he's

779
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 2: been through some things that have made him grow up faster.

780
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 2: But I'm still stuck on you saying you don't remember him.

781
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: Do you not remember in his package when he was

782
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,479
Speaker 2: dancing around like a broke oh off footloose. I do

783
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 2: remember that, and I remember I think I tweeted that

784
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 2: it was the straight to movie version.

785
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 3: No, I do remember that, But I remember thinking, like,

786
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 3: this guy's kind of like a joke, like not in

787
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 3: a bad way, like kind of just being silly.

788
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: A joke, not like a joke like a johh Paul Jones.

789
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like a John Paul Jones. That's what I

790
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 3: thought when I saw that. And honestly, until you just

791
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 3: said that, I didn't even know that that was Tyler.

792
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 4: I thought that was like even somebody else.

793
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 3: It's just my opinion of him, and my perception of

794
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 3: him changed so much, and I'm so glad it did.

795
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 4: Honestly, it taught me a lesson the.

796
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 2: Way that Tyler affected us and we he made a

797
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 2: big impression on us, and we're rooting for Tyler and

798
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 2: he was definitely a front runner. He obviously affected Hannah's

799
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,959
Speaker 2: parents the exact same way. And so I'm very curious

800
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 2: with you how I know how my hometowns went when

801
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 2: when the guys had to meet my family. But when

802
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 2: it was your hometown, were the guys were your parents

803
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,479
Speaker 2: leaning more to one guy than the other? Were you

804
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 2: against their decision?

805
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 3: Well, my top two one was a guy from Massachusetts,

806
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 3: Cape Cod, Chris Lampton, who I'm from Massachusetts, so my

807
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 3: family obviously.

808
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 4: Loved him and they just talked about New England's sports.

809
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 3: It all was all was well, but they knew the

810
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 3: second they saw the guy ended up with Roberto that

811
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 3: they could tell just seeing me who I was into. Yeah.

812
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 2: I really related to Hannah's experience with the parents liking

813
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 2: one person like Hannah's parents like Tyler, and they really

814
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 2: were harder on Jed. Like it's no secret when Brian

815
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 2: came home to meet my family, my family was very

816
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 2: hard on him, and they were much more receptive to Peter.

817
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 2: And for me, you know, I didn't have the struggle

818
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 2: that Hannah had, but I totally understand it. Maybe at

819
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 2: twenty four I would have, but at the time I

820
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 2: was thirty two and I was just like, I know

821
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 2: him way better than you do, and you're only knowing

822
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 2: maybe what you're reading or maybe you know just a

823
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 2: first impression isn't good. But I totally understood what Hannah

824
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 2: was going through. It was actually my dad who liked Brian,

825
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 2: who you never saw on camera. That was like the

826
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 2: big mystery. My dad met all the guys off camera,

827
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 2: and my dad really liked Brian, and he was the

828
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 2: one with Peter who was like, something's not right. The

829
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 2: ends don't match up. That's that's what he kept saying

830
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 2: to me. He's like, something's off, something's not right. And

831
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 2: I was like, actually, that's something that I've been feeling.

832
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 2: But blah blah blah whatever. I totally understand your parents.

833
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 2: Your parents have a huge influence when it comes to

834
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 2: the decision that you're making when you're at that point,

835
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 2: because you get this, you're in this bubble and then

836
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 2: all of a sudden you get to meet people who

837
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 2: are outside of it, and you're like, Okay, they're going

838
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 2: to keep it real. They're going to tell me the truth.

839
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 2: They're not inside of this. I am so like itching

840
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 2: to hear what they have to say. And so Hannah

841
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 2: was sitting there like, Okay.

842
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 3: They're gonna like no, she knew that they weren't gonna

843
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 3: like Jed, and that's my that's my beef of Hannah.

844
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: Though she she didn't do Jed any favors.

845
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:37,240
Speaker 2: She set it up for them not to like him.

846
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 4: I mean, let's talk about that a little bit.

847
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 3: First of all with Jed, because we have to talk

848
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 3: about Jed because obviously what happened last night. I always

849
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 3: thought it was Jed from the get go, even when

850
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 3: the spoilers out there said it wasn't. It said that

851
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 3: it was Tyler. Like from the very first episode, did

852
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 3: you really yeah, go to my blog, right from the beginning,

853
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 3: I think my very first blog, if not second, maybe

854
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 3: my first one.

855
00:35:58,640 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 4: I said, Nope, it's going to be Jedd.

856
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 3: She just it was just the way she looked at him,

857
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 3: the way she was like so giddy around him, looked

858
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 3: at him. I gotta go back and read exactly what

859
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 3: I said, because I know there was certain things I

860
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 3: picked up on. And then she has even said throughout

861
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 3: the process, she has said, you know, from the very

862
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,919
Speaker 3: get go, you know I you know Jed has I've

863
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 3: cared about Jed.

864
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 4: Jen has been a front runner.

865
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 3: I don't know if she use those exact words, but

866
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 3: every time she said that, like I knew it wasn't

867
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 3: gonna be Tyler. As soon as basically at the beginning

868
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 3: of last night's episode, because she kept saying how slow

869
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 3: they were to progress and how it was Jed from

870
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 3: the beginning, and I think you do really know.

871
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,720
Speaker 4: I can't remember. Did Brian get your first impression?

872
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 5: Rose?

873
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 3: Yes? Yeah, I mean you know, at least if your

874
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 3: top two top three there the first night, I dare

875
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 3: to say, did you not.

876
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: I didn't know who my top people were. I definitely

877
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 2: knew Brian was because I gave him a first impression Rose,

878
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 2: but I didn't have like my top four people filled out,

879
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 2: like I was kind of guessing I might.

880
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: I really didn't know until the first week.

881
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 2: It ended up who I gave the first date to

882
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 2: and then first impression were top two, But at the.

883
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 1: Time I really didn't know that.

884
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 2: But I just I really thought it was Tyler until

885
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 2: the very last day. And I truly believe for Jed

886
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 2: it was a fairy tale.

887
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: You know.

888
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 2: He sings and you guys can't see me, but I'm

889
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 2: using air quotes. He plays the guitar, He writes songs,

890
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 2: He wrote a song for her, They recorded a song together.

891
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 2: He came to her balcony in the middle of the

892
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 2: night and he played music for her, which was a

893
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 2: very generic song. He could have been about anybody. I'll

894
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 2: just say that. But then he you know, and then

895
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 2: in the proposal he writes a song for her. Oh

896
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 2: I can sing it better than I can than I

897
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 2: can tell you. You know, So I'm going to sing

898
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: you a song. I just think it was very romantic

899
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 2: and Tyler was just easy.

900
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 3: He was too good to be true. Well, in the end,

901
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 3: Jed won. And I'm also using air quotes. He used

902
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 3: that term, or like he went around telling his friends

903
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 3: he won.

904
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 2: I didn't follow him for that. Actually, that's a very

905
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 2: comic thing people say. People say that. Brian said that

906
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 2: too sometimes, like it comes.

907
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,919
Speaker 1: Along with journey and you remind me of home and.

908
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,479
Speaker 2: You're my person and all these other terms that people

909
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 2: who were like, what you know, I won. It doesn't

910
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 2: mean that you're thinking of this person as a prize.

911
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 2: I guess it did fow he said it.

912
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 3: It looks bad now, Yeah, it looks bad now, but

913
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 3: I guess it is how he said it was he like, oh,

914
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 3: yeah I.

915
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 4: Won, like whatever with his boys, or it was like,

916
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 4: oh my gosh, yeah I won. I'm with Hannah now

917
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 4: it's great.

918
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 2: You know, there's but I got Hannah I don't like

919
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 2: it either, but that wasn't like a deal breaker for me.

920
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 4: All right, So let's talk about when Jed and Hannah

921
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 4: sat down and talked about the girlfriend.

922
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:41,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean his excuse, Oh, I just yeah, her

923
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 3: family had bought us this vacation and we went and

924
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 3: had this vacation together, and yeah, I told her I

925
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 3: loved her, But I mean.

926
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: It was so bad.

927
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 2: You had days to prepare what you were going to say,

928
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 2: and this is a woman that you love.

929
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 1: I think I wanted more from him.

930
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 2: And maybe he's just so laid back in chill guy,

931
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 2: but at this point, you are fighting for your relationship

932
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 2: and it's not just boyfriend and girlfriend. This is your fiance.

933
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 2: This is somebody for months you've been planning how you're

934
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 2: going to spend the rest of your life and your

935
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 2: future together. And I just didn't feel like he was

936
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 2: fighting enough for her and for what they had.

937
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 3: A hundred I could not agree with you more, Rachel.

938
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 3: It's like there was nothing there. And I know he

939
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 3: doesn't have this huge personality. I mean, he has no

940
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 3: offense to him, but he's been a bit of a

941
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,240
Speaker 3: dud until that guitar comes out. Honestly, he just doesn't

942
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 3: know how to express himself. Right, But you're right, this

943
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 3: is the woman you love that you were engaged to,

944
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 3: and you messed up. Like I can forgive him honestly

945
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,479
Speaker 3: for all that. It's messed up what he did, don't

946
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 3: get me wrong, But if he was on his knees

947
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 3: in tears, I love you. I yes, I was with

948
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 3: this other girl. I did tell her I loved her.

949
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 3: I didn't know what love was until I met you. Yeah,

950
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 3: I am so sorry. Like, and just to see any

951
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 3: emotion come out of him, it just sounded like he

952
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 3: was making excuses.

953
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 2: For himself one hundred percent to try to say, faced,

954
00:39:58,239 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 2: were you okay with what he did? Like if you

955
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 2: were that situation, because that's what I kept thinking, Like

956
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 2: that easily could have happened to us, because we're both

957
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 2: former bacherettes. If you had been Hannah, and you had

958
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 2: been sitting there and that is the person that walked

959
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,479
Speaker 2: in and that is what he said to you, would

960
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:11,399
Speaker 2: you have taken him back?

961
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 3: Yeah? If I felt it was love, Like, I'm really

962
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 3: excited because we're gonna find out exactly what Hannah was

963
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 3: feeling when she first found out the news, and that

964
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 3: is because one of Hannah's best friends who is actually

965
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 3: with well, actually not with her. She was the first

966
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 3: person she talked to when the news broke is here.

967
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 3: That's right, Demi is here with us right now, and

968
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 3: we cannot wait to hear what she has to say.

969
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Demmie, welcome, Welcome to Happy Allergy.

970
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: You are so excited to have you on the podcast.

971
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: First of all, I've been waiting to meet you for

972
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: a very long.

973
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 4: Time, same I have. I didn't see each other.

974
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: No, we're both from Dallas and we've never met.

975
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 6: I've been dreaming of meeting Rachel listens for my favorite Yay,

976
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 6: I love it. No, I love Rachel so much. I'm

977
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 6: very excited to be here with you.

978
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 3: Well, we are so happy you are here because there's

979
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 3: so much to talk about. Okay, first, before we get

980
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 3: into everything that happened with Jed, let's talk about the

981
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 3: three guys right from at the end of the season.

982
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 3: What were your thoughts of them, I mean, being Hena's

983
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 3: best friend, were you were like, did you know when

984
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 3: you medd all the guys like those are gonna be

985
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 3: her top three?

986
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 6: Tyler the second that I saw him announced for the cast.

987
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 6: I was like, he is so hot, and I was like,

988
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 6: he is. He's going to kill it this season. And

989
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 6: I told her at one point, I was like, save

990
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 6: him for me, and obviously she didn't. And then she

991
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 6: told me a lot about like, you know, all of

992
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 6: the guys that were in her final three and how

993
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 6: much she liked all of them, and it was really

994
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 6: hard for her to make a decision.

995
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'd actually like to take you back from

996
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 2: the beginning, because I'll be honest, like I always am.

997
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 2: I've never liked Jet from the moment that he told

998
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 2: her that he was there initially for his music career.

999
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 2: That was always a huge red flag for me. And

1000
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 2: so you're a very outspoken person. So from the beginning

1001
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 2: when he said that to her and he dropped that

1002
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 2: bomb in her, what was your impression of Jet?

1003
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 6: You know, I would have taken what he said and

1004
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 6: I would have valued it more if he wouldn't have

1005
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 6: sang a song every week in the beginning. It was

1006
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 6: just constantly about his music. And that's kind of where

1007
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 6: I was down with Jed at that point.

1008
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 4: I'm with you on that, Like, I didn't actually mind

1009
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 4: that he told her.

1010
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,760
Speaker 3: I liked that he told her right was he was genuine?

1011
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 3: Because but Rachel, did you I guess let me ask

1012
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 3: both of you. When you went on the show as

1013
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 3: a contestant, not Rachel has the bachelorette, did you go

1014
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 3: on to find love?

1015
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 4: My answer is no. I went on to have a

1016
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 4: good time. I went on to.

1017
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 3: Drink, like, go to La sit by a pool, and

1018
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 3: then when I was started having feelings for the Bachelor,

1019
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my gosh, this can work.

1020
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 2: What bothers me with Jed is that you have to

1021
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 2: look at the underlying theme of his reasoning for coming

1022
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 2: on the show. He is deceitful. He came on the

1023
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 2: show to deceive her. Period, point blank period. There hadn't

1024
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 2: been that much time that had passed. When he talks

1025
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 2: about his love of music, and all of a sudden,

1026
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 2: it's been seven or eight days and now you're feeling

1027
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 2: hand all of a sudden. I have a problem with

1028
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 2: that when I think of his motive for coming on

1029
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 2: the show, how far was he willing to take that?

1030
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,479
Speaker 2: What if he didn't turn his feelings around start liking

1031
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 2: her a certain way. That is what I have such

1032
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 2: a deep rooted issue with And the fact that.

1033
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,240
Speaker 6: His family was asking or talking about his music career

1034
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 6: and like asking, how is it going to work with

1035
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 6: his music career. It all seems to be revolving around

1036
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 6: the career that he wanted to get out of this.

1037
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I agree before the show, but then I

1038
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 3: think he came on the show and was like, oh

1039
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 3: my gosh, I'm falling for this girl. Like I do

1040
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 3: think his feelings are real.

1041
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 2: Okay, but then don't you think at that point and

1042
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 2: this is my other thing. Okay, it's out there now, right,

1043
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,959
Speaker 2: you've put it out there. You came on here for music,

1044
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 2: now you're about her. I want to never see the

1045
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 2: guitar again, right exact, don't play another song, don't show

1046
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 2: us you're a songwriter. Don't play a song. In the finale,

1047
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 2: I think his quote was, you know, I'm not good

1048
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 2: with my words, so.

1049
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: Here's here's a song. That's all he is.

1050
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 4: Oh, that's just such a big part of who he is.

1051
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 3: I think he could use a little help in the

1052
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:53,760
Speaker 3: personality department.

1053
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 6: I wish I could have just had like one instance

1054
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 6: where he made a big like notion with her, like

1055
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 6: some really exciting and fun that wasn't about his music.

1056
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 6: Every time, it was a song. Every time, it's about

1057
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 6: his music, even like you know, in the beginning, he

1058
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 6: was doing his music a lot. Then he takes her

1059
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 6: to hometowns, he does more music, stay.

1060
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 3: At hometowns, that's what he does. He's showing her in

1061
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 3: his world like this.

1062
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 6: But after they wrote a song together, and obviously Hannah

1063
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 6: is not.

1064
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: To put that song on iTunes. I did I think

1065
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: he should.

1066
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 2: I think that if we hadn't heard him sing until

1067
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 2: he got to hometowns, it would have been a little

1068
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 2: bit different. But his dates, he was sitting out of

1069
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 2: her on her balcony, and I mean, let's just call

1070
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 2: a spade a spade.

1071
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: He's not that good. I'm sorry, I'm just gonna say it.

1072
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 1: He's really not that good.

1073
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe if he was out here singing like somebody

1074
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 2: else and sweeping me off my feet, I would think

1075
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 2: something different.

1076
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: But it wasn't that good, and I got tired of it.

1077
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 3: I mean, look, I gave him the benefit of the

1078
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 3: dealth the entire season, but I definitely say, yeah, I

1079
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 3: need to drink up that one.

1080
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 4: Definitely at the end. I mean my for him completely changed.

1081
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 3: Especially let's talk about the girlfriend thing. The conversation they had, yes,

1082
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 3: because when that news broke. You know, I'm always writing

1083
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 3: about the show because I write it on my blog.

1084
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 3: When that news broke, I was like, I'm going to

1085
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 3: give him the benefit of the doubt because it's a

1086
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 3: one sided story. I want to hear his side before

1087
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 3: and make a decision. We kind of heard his We

1088
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 3: did hear his side on the show. So tell us, Debbie,

1089
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 3: when when Hannah first found out and she like had

1090
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 3: that first phone call, called you, what was she thinking?

1091
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 4: What was on her mind?

1092
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 6: It was really essentially it was about the fact that

1093
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 6: he had ruined her experience for her because she was

1094
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 6: one of the most serious contestants on The Bachelor. She

1095
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 6: was very serious about getting married. She became the bachelorette,

1096
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:41,919
Speaker 6: and I knew that she'd be perfect for it because

1097
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 6: she actually wants to be married. She believes in this

1098
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 6: and she's ready for it, and so she just felt

1099
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 6: like her experience got ruined. And you know, a lot

1100
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 6: of it too, is like she thought Tyler was going

1101
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 6: to be a huge player because he's so hot and

1102
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 6: that's kind of what we all expect from him, and

1103
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 6: then she finds out that she was with the biggest

1104
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 6: player of them all, someone who had a girlfriend.

1105
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 3: That must have been so hard for her, Like, how

1106
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 3: was she handling it? Was she in tears? Was she angry?

1107
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 6: I mean all the emotions, Like, of course she's angry.

1108
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 6: Of course she's sad, she feels let down. You know,

1109
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 6: I don't want to like speak for her, but I

1110
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 6: know she's going through a lot of emotions about all

1111
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 6: of it. I just feel bad because I knew that

1112
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 6: she was the one person who deserved, like out of

1113
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 6: our season, she truly deserved to have the best results

1114
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 6: from being the bachelorette because she was actually there for

1115
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 6: the right reasons. I was there to have fun, she

1116
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 6: was there to find a husband.

1117
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: Well, when she found out, did she believe it?

1118
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 6: Initially she found out the day the People article was released.

1119
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:48,760
Speaker 1: Does she believe that article?

1120
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 2: Or was she like, okay, you know, like I'm in

1121
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 2: the public eye, here come the people out of the

1122
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 2: woodworks from the past, trying to have their moment.

1123
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 6: No, she believed it. Why she believed it because of

1124
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 6: all the evidence that came with it, and so she

1125
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 6: felt very deceived. She felt like, you know, he told

1126
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 6: me some of it, but he didn't tell me the

1127
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 6: extent of it, and he didn't tell me about the

1128
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 6: other girl. He told me about the one girl that

1129
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 6: he had been with.

1130
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: And then another one wasn't there.

1131
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:18,240
Speaker 6: There was apparently he had this relationship with this one girl,

1132
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 6: maybe not official relationship, I don't even know what, and

1133
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 6: then he was like cheating on her with another girl.

1134
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

1135
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 4: So like that, it just.

1136
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 6: Kept being more and more and more.

1137
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: Here's my question.

1138
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 2: I asked you if Hannah believed the People article when

1139
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 2: it came out at that point, had she made a

1140
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 2: decision on the future of their relationship.

1141
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 6: Of like right whenever she saw the article?

1142
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

1143
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 4: I think that.

1144
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 6: You know, the thing about Hannah is that she got

1145
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 6: so empowered with like on the Bachelor. Like she started

1146
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 6: off very very you know, shy and kind of quiet

1147
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 6: and unsure about herself, and she found herself on the

1148
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,240
Speaker 6: Bachelor and she became this amazing strong woman. She became

1149
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:02,280
Speaker 6: the bachelorette that feeled her fire. She became so much stronger,

1150
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 6: like a rock star. She knew what she wanted, she

1151
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 6: wasn't afraid to confront people about what she wanted, and

1152
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 6: she wasn't going to put up with any shit so

1153
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 6: whenever she read that People article and she had all

1154
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 6: of this evidence laid out in front of her about

1155
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 6: what had happened at that point, she said, like, you know,

1156
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 6: I imagine she would think I could give in and

1157
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 6: try to make this work, or I could say true

1158
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 6: to who I found out that I am, and I

1159
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 6: can be a rock star, and I can feel good

1160
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 6: about myself knowing that I'm walking away from something that

1161
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 6: is false, like there's already lies here. I'm not going

1162
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 6: to tolerate that, you know, like there's dishonesty, Like this

1163
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 6: isn't what I want, and I'm not going to settle

1164
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 6: for it, even if I you know, I want to

1165
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 6: have that romantic ending and I want to have that

1166
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 6: happy ending, I'm not going to settle for that. And

1167
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 6: I'm going to continue to be this new strong woman

1168
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 6: that I am and fully embrace that.

1169
00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: DEMI thank you so much for joining us on our show.

1170
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: We're so happy to have you.

1171
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,280
Speaker 6: Of course, I loved being Harry. All are amazing.

1172
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 3: All right, Rachel, Now we gotta get to the heavy stuff.

1173
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 3: What did you think about Jed tonight?

1174
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 2: I thought that Jed did the best that he could

1175
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 2: do right, which which really wasn't much. All he could

1176
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 2: do at this point was apologize. I mean, that's the

1177
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 2: only card he had to play, and he apologized to everybody,

1178
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 2: Apologize to Hannah, her family, Bachelor Nation, his family. I

1179
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 2: mean you really kind of feel sorry for him. I mean, granted,

1180
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 2: he's this is his fault, this is his own doing,

1181
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 2: he's digging his own grave. But I mean he did

1182
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 2: the best that he could do, apologize and move on.

1183
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 2: Surely he didn't think he was going to get Hannah back.

1184
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I honestly, I mean he did the best

1185
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 3: he could do. Because I mean, Jed has not had

1186
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,800
Speaker 3: much emotion or personality. I mean I feel mean saying

1187
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:56,280
Speaker 3: that the entire season, he's shown almost no no.

1188
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: I can't mean it's okay.

1189
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 3: I like to think, I don't know, it's weird when

1190
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 3: you become a parent, Rachel, when you and Brian start

1191
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 3: cranking up those babies, You're gonna understand. But I just

1192
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 3: feel like we saw nothing from him. There wasn't a

1193
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 3: single tear. He kept saying, yes, I'm still in love

1194
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 3: with you, but she's basically saying it's over, I'm done,

1195
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 3: and nothing, not a tear, not like a quiver of

1196
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 3: the lip like nothing. I just don't buy that. Like,

1197
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,479
Speaker 3: I feel like he did what he needed to do.

1198
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 3: But I think at this point, like Jed doesn't love her.

1199
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,280
Speaker 3: In my opinion, I don't think that he does anymore.

1200
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 3: I think he's so probably deep down very angry that

1201
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:37,760
Speaker 3: he got caught.

1202
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: I believe that.

1203
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think it was a little bit of

1204
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 3: a show, to be honest, he put it on a

1205
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 3: little show. But he did say what he needed to say,

1206
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 3: and I appreciate that he just took complete ownership, like

1207
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 3: you said, and apologized to the families, because that's a

1208
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 3: huge part of this. But one thing you know that

1209
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 3: I have to say is Hannah was incredible tonight. I

1210
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 3: Mean we've talked about this, Rachel, the progression of Hannah

1211
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 3: throughout the season, and I have never seen her so

1212
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 3: poised and articulate and.

1213
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 4: Just the grace that she showed Jed.

1214
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 3: Like, one of the things that I told you really

1215
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,919
Speaker 3: upset me about her and in general, like I've talked

1216
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 3: about publicly and been critical about her about the season,

1217
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 3: is that I felt like a lot of times she

1218
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 3: made the show about her. I mean, the show is

1219
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 3: her season, but she didn't she made the relationships about

1220
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 3: her rather than making about her and the men, or

1221
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 3: her and the man she was with, Whereas tonight we

1222
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 3: saw her have so much grace for Jed, Like she

1223
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 3: kept saying, I feel for you, I don't want you

1224
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 3: to hurt. Like that's a completely different side of Hannah,

1225
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,760
Speaker 3: And we have seen her turn into like this incredible woman,

1226
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,280
Speaker 3: which I was just so happy to see.

1227
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1228
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 2: I really like the way that she said she was hurting,

1229
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 2: but she knows that he's hurting too. Yeah, and she

1230
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 2: has her own critics, as does he, But I like this.

1231
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 2: She was very matter of fact and you could tell

1232
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 2: that she's cried her last cry and she has moved on.

1233
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 2: She has grown, and like she said, she has learned

1234
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 2: from this experience that although it didn't work out the

1235
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 2: way that she wanted to, she's learned something about herself

1236
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 2: and she is way more aware. And I think we

1237
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 2: could all turn back and look at that one relationship

1238
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 2: where maybe we were going through it blindly, but when

1239
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 2: it ended, it was as if the lights came on

1240
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 2: and we learned so much about ourselves and we knew

1241
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 2: what we wanted out of the next relationship.

1242
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: And Hannah's going to be.

1243
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 2: So much better for the next man because of the

1244
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 2: heartache that she went through with Jed.

1245
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was so hard to watch, like when he

1246
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 3: first came out, just seeing her fighting back the tears. Like,

1247
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 3: there are a lot of moments in the Bachelor world

1248
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 3: I will say seem forced to me. Like, for instance,

1249
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 3: whenever somebody on the show like says I love you

1250
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 3: for the first time, I'm always like, oh, like it

1251
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 3: just doesn't seem genuine. It's like they feel like they

1252
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 3: have to say it. It's all weird and awkward. But man,

1253
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 3: what we saw from her and like, not not him,

1254
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 3: but her was just real, raw, genuine emotion.

1255
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 2: Can we give a shout out to the ruthless audience

1256
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 2: at AFR. I mean the three claps that jet that

1257
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 2: Jed got when he walked out on stage, it was

1258
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 2: I mean I laughed out loud. I mean, nobody was

1259
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 2: clapping for Jed. Everybody was supporting Hannah on Hannah's side,

1260
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 2: just they were savage. They were completely savage when it

1261
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 2: came to Jed.

1262
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, total party.

1263
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 3: But what else are they gonna do? You know, I

1264
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 3: guess you could have given him like a little bit

1265
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 3: of an applause but like people are upset with him.

1266
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 3: But another thing, speaking of clapping, when some people started

1267
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 3: to clap when she was kind of putting.

1268
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 4: Him in his place, I guess a little bit. I

1269
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 4: don't know. That's not really the right way I want

1270
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 4: to say it.

1271
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 3: But I love that she said, no, don't clap, this

1272
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 3: is sad, and I just I again shows so much

1273
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,479
Speaker 3: maturity on her side, and I've been waiting to see

1274
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 3: that from her all season and I'm just so proud

1275
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,919
Speaker 3: of it. I feel like a proud Bachelorette mama, like, yeah,

1276
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 3: you're right.

1277
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 2: And that was the moment where it's also like it's

1278
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 2: not just pure entertainment. Feelings are involved. People are hurt,

1279
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,720
Speaker 2: are hurt, emotions are running high. People were clapping because

1280
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,439
Speaker 2: it was entertaining, and she shut them down, like this

1281
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 2: is my life and that is what people won't remember.

1282
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 2: And I truly hope that you know, for her tomorrow

1283
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 2: when she's doing these media rounds, it's going to be

1284
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 2: tough and people are going to come at her so

1285
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 2: many different ways and aren't going to have.

1286
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 1: The same grace.

1287
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,240
Speaker 2: Since that seems to be a theme in this finale

1288
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 2: that Chris Harrison had for her in questioning her, and

1289
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 2: so I really hope that she is able to, you know,

1290
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 2: empower herself and use that strength that she's found through

1291
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:49,240
Speaker 2: this season as she's going into these interviews because she's

1292
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 2: doing it alone and that's tough.

1293
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, well she should just come on our podcast and

1294
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 3: we will show her that Grace and.

1295
00:54:58,960 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 4: Rachel. Oh my gosh, I.

1296
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: See is over.

1297
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 4: But the podcast has just be gone. Bachelor in Paradise.

1298
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 4: I cannot wait. And we have more incredible guests.

1299
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 2: Yes, we have so many exciting guests coming in Paradise

1300
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 2: and we're gonna kick it off on a high note.

1301
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 2: We've got Demmy coming back to talk about Paradise and

1302
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 2: her groundbreaking.

1303
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: You know, experience in Paradise.

1304
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 2: I cannot wait to hear everything that she's going to

1305
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 2: say when it comes to that. Then we've also got

1306
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 2: Kaylen coming up. Kayla was involved in quite a bit

1307
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,399
Speaker 2: of drama in Paradise and I can't wait to get

1308
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 2: her take on it.

1309
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 4: Quite a bit of a boatload of drama.

1310
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: So look at me, nice yaues.

1311
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,959
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Bachelor Paradise is going to be so good. Guys,

1312
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 3: so make sure that you come right back here next

1313
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 3: week to hear our next podcast, We're So Happy You're here,

1314
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 3: and cheers, Cheers Rachel to you, cheers to Bachelor Nation,

1315
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 3: and cheers to Hannah. And don't forget to check out

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Speaker 3: bachelornation dot com, where you can find the latest news

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Speaker 3: and all things Bachelor.

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Speaker 2: All Right, you guys, so raise your glass because Bachelor

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Speaker 2: Happy Out is out now. You can find it on

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Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts.