WEBVTT - #107 - Icewear Vezzo 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.240 Whole Care Podcast Special guests, Man the Homie Detroit's Finance. 0:00:03.279 --> 0:00:05.400 I swear vesit in the building. Man, It's like, God, 0:00:05.519 --> 0:00:08.039 what did it do? Welcome, Welcome Milcael Man. You say 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:11.200 to brother, Yes, sir, first of all, congratulations Man to 0:00:11.240 --> 0:00:16.520 glow up. Since you left Motown has been glorious, sir. Absolutely, Nah, 0:00:16.680 --> 0:00:19.360 stop grying back to back. You know what I'm saying. 0:00:19.400 --> 0:00:23.680 It's just like my fucking dependent on so shit like 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:27.160 having it, having your first child, or getting your first 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:31.400 apartment or your first house. It's crazy because look, when 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:33.440 you are ex signed to a quote unquote major right 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:36.600 you got out, you know, you did the major shit, 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:39.320 you ran around, you know, but it's like I feel 0:00:39.400 --> 0:00:44.440 like somehow it held you back, absolutely because I wasn't 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:47.080 doing the shit that I wanted to do. And just 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:51.040 I feel like, you know one thing about it. Every 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:54.600 artist know what's best for them. That's the thing that's 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:59.200 what labels managers my fucking pr Everybody got to understand 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:02.240 that about artists. We know what's best for us, we 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:04.520 know what we want, we know what worked for us. 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:07.840 We pay attention to ourselves more than anybody do. So 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:10.080 you got to think we're dealing with a major, you 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:14.639 basically going to a motherfucker who from the outside looking 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:16.280 in and like, all right, you should do this, you 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:17.920 should do that, you know what I mean. It's like 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:20.880 telling somebody that's like somebody who didn't raise you, telling 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:23.920 you what's best for you as an adult, Like you 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:27.399 got to where you were by doing something, and it's 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:29.600 almost like once then you then you get on board 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:31.640 with a major, and then they don't want to They're 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:33.560 asking you to stop doing what got you there, And 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:36.200 logically it doesn't make sense because like what I've been 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:40.880 doing obviously got y'all interested, So the first we stopped 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:44.280 doing what got yall attention, it don't make sense, you 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:46.119 know what I mean. I feel like the labels should 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:48.800 just give input, pay for the ship they need to 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:51.760 pay for, and do the bigger level shit and let 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:54.880 us run. Let us run, let us under our music 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:57.600 and the way we want to market ourselves. Those motherfucker 0:01:57.640 --> 0:01:59.680 ain't doing no dumb shit, you know what I'm saying, 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:01.720 And so that matter. Yeah, I feel like since you've 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:04.160 got nothing mad, like like you said, nothing's holding you back, 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:07.440 You've been just dropping NonStop, and that's really that's what 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:09.520 I mean, you want the hottest artist in the game 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:13.880 right now, and that's based on you, absolutely, your work 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:17.520 at the your output. That freedom. Freedom is like, Man, 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:21.040 this shit don't cost me nothing. Feel me like, all right, 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:24.560 you know I handle my business with the producer so 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:28.200 that that process is easy. You know what I'm saying. 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:31.600 We got social media which is free. Instagram ain't charging 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:34.840 no monthly fee. That ship is free, you feel me. 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:39.080 So it's like just even having my YouTube free, so 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:42.119 I ain't no point in holding nothing. Ship is all free. 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:43.760 When I'm gonna sit on this shit and think too 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:47.040 hard about it, folks overthinking, We overthink it. You people 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:49.600 overthink shit way too much. If they don't like it, 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:51.919 do some more shit, Just drop some more and that's 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:54.040 just the piece of more piece of your independent catalog. 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:57.200 Can't lose fans from dropping too much music. You lose 0:02:57.320 --> 0:03:01.120 fans from doing dumb, goofy shit. You lose fans from 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:03.079 sitting on your hands too long, and then they forget 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:06.960 about you. It's key. Do you feel like you had 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:09.280 to win some fans back? Absolutely? I had. It went 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:12.720 on my fans, but every single one of them motherfuckers 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:17.560 all up. I feel like they stopped believing that I 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:21.040 was hungry, and I was hungry in the bitch. You 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:23.840 feel me like Nigga's starving, like I want this shit, 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:27.200 but in they mind, just me moving on that major 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:31.280 level and doing shit that I really didn't align with. 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:33.720 You feel me made don't feel like how this nigga 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:35.520 made it? You know when people here, you got a 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:37.640 record deal, that's like hearing a nigga just went to 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:40.320 the NBA or the NFL. You feel me. So they 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:43.520 automatically feel like, alright, he made it, you know what 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:46.320 I'm saying. So yeah, most definitely I had to get 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:48.640 all my fans. Yeah, I think like I think that 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:51.920 that also is like a myth that's finally sort of 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:55.520 like slowly going away. Yeah, because a lot of artists 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:58.920 like it's a it's the biggest mistake they could ever 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:01.080 make it signed into a major and they making that 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:03.320 shit vocal. You know what I mean, A lot of 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:07.440 artists is being real vocal about not going to no maze. Man, 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:11.240 how important it is to have independency and you know, 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:14.760 move and be hands on with your ship, you know 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:17.680 what I'm saying. So definitely that that that's that thing 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:22.480 kind of going out the window you mentioned obviously handling 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:27.719 everything within your team in house, yourself, working with the producers, yourself, 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:30.560 figuring figuring out how to get them situated yourself. So 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:33.760 how what's the distro? Is it tuned? Core? Is a distro? Kid? 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:36.039 Is it? Like? How you doing the distro? Founde? Some 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:37.880 media shout out to found shout out to the homie 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:40.720 league out the lead at least solid all the way 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:44.680 up and down, just one hundred, like he understands. It 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:46.920 ain't no, it ain't never no debate, It ain't never 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:50.840 no argument or no back and forth. He don't try. 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:52.600 He like, listen, man, this is the one to dude, 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:55.200 we're doing it. Fuck it like he feel like how 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:57.840 we feel about it? What we got to lose all? 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:01.239 He says, stay consistent, keep putting that shit out, stay 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:04.359 consistent with his music. So he get it. That's the 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:06.000 only way too, man, Because you know, if you think 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:10.080 about like your lane, right, it's a very crowded lane 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:13.159 for shit, so like and so you you in order 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:15.680 for you to stand out, you gotta gotta do the most. 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:18.560 You gotta keep pressing, pressing, pressing, blade pressure. I ain't 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:21.440 no antis type person like I ain't with antis and 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:25.240 gimmicks like I don't do like goofy shit, goofy lane 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:28.400 man ship, I don't do. I don't not be myself. 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:32.480 I don't get on the internet posting guns and ship 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:34.599 like I'm a real street nigga. I really come from that. 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:38.320 You got niggas that start rapping and they try to 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:40.599 run to the streets. You got real street niggas that 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:44.120 start rapping and leave from that ship like them niggas 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:46.120 going there. I'm going here, y'all. Go ahead, all right, 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:49.440 I know, I know all that's about. Go ahead, you 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:51.560 feel me. I ain't with none of that lane man ship. 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:54.040 I ain't with no I ain't doing no rap bef 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:56.520 for no niggas. I'm not doing no all that this. 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:58.440 I'm not doing none of that ship with none of 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:00.560 it with nobody. I ain't with nonheing of that. So 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:03.920 for me, it's just strictly music. That's all. That's all 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:07.040 I can provide to the rap game is music that 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:10.160 wasn't say was that hard for you? Because obviously Detroit 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:14.040 at the moment is one of the more popping scenes 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:16.680 in hip hop, and I do feel like right now 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:19.760 at least it seems as if everyone who's popping out 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:22.200 the city for the most part, are kind of moving 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:26.320 in the same direction as to where in the past 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:30.039 it felt like there was a lot of friction between 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:32.160 a lot of the popping artists in Detroit as to 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:34.120 where now. You know, I know there's different sides of town, 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:37.839 but you know, between yourself, Baby Face, Ray Pedro, Giovanni Peasy, 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:41.480 you know, uh real, the young og is obviously from Flynn, 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:45.160 I believe, right. I just feel like it seems like Detroit, 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:48.960 whether or not, y'all are like hanging out together. That's 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:51.520 not what I'm saying. It just seems like there's a movement, 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:55.400 and it seems like it's at least in a respectful 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:57.440 way as opposed to you know, because I feel like 0:06:57.480 --> 0:06:59.480 that might kind of been the issue with Detroit in 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:01.960 the past. I know it was. It was it was 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:05.920 the friction, It was the misunderstanding, the lack of communication, 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:08.560 you know what I mean. Like, I don't think that 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:13.280 some of the brothers before us felt as if it 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:16.240 was enough money for everybody. We get it. We know 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:19.280 it's enough money for every motherfucking body, like, and we 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:22.960 all got the same content. Basically, we rap about the 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:26.080 same shit we rapped on the same beats down there, 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:28.000 like and if it ain't the same, but we're still 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:30.960 talking about the same shit, just in different ways. And 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:35.280 everybody succeeding that. So that just show you it's enough money, 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:38.320 it's enough opportunity, it's enough listeners and follow us for 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:42.160 every fucking body. Everybody in Detroit rap scene got a 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:47.000 relationship somehow, someway. Everybody know each other. Some niggas might 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:49.600 talk to might not talk to the next nigga. Some 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:53.320 you heard some niggas entries may not. However it is 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:56.920 it's still an understanding, like we're not gonna embarrass this bitch, 0:07:56.960 --> 0:07:58.800 though we ain't gonna make it. We ain't about to 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:00.960 look bad for the seeing. We all feel like that. 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:03.320 For you, did you have to get past like that 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:06.200 mentality ever, cause like obviously you got locked up. You know, 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:10.280 there's no questioning what you know, your credibility in the 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:14.200 streets and shit, But it feels like you're all the 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:16.280 way in on this rap shit. And I feel like 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:20.680 that is the difference because sometimes man, like you can't 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:22.880 be nine toes in the rap shit and one toe 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:24.720 back in the street shit. That's why I went to 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:28.120 the fist, you know what I'm saying, So, like, what 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:30.720 what did it take for you to get mentally past 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:33.920 that mind state where you, you know, gave a fuck 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:36.440 about the petty shit, or would participate in certain share 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:38.800 or let maybe shit that would bother you maybe five 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:40.880 years are going not bother you anymore. It took for 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:44.320 me to lose absolutely everything I had. It took for 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:47.280 me to lose people that I love, It took for 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:51.360 me to lose opportunity. I literally went flat and fuck broke. 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:54.320 You know what I'm saying, hundreds of thousands, like we 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:57.160 ain't gonna talk about no amount or no I don't 0:08:57.160 --> 0:09:00.720 even nigga has some papers. So you know, I lost 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:03.600 a lot of shit. And it took it took that 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:06.600 for me to understand how pride really worked and how 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:11.240 you know, understanding work kind of self preservation work. You 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:14.800 know what I mean. It took for me to to 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:17.600 It took for that for me to understand that I'm 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:19.480 a man. I don't given fuck with no nigga think 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:22.600 about me. I already got it. I got an old lady. 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:25.880 I don't care what no I'm not. You heard I rock. 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:28.800 I rocked that way. So I don't fuck what a 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:31.360 nigga think about me. But it took for all. It 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:33.880 took all that for me to understand that, and the 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:38.200 moment I got that understanding, shit elevated for me. Financially. 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:40.520 I got more money than I ever had. I never 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:43.640 I never. I always knew I would have this type 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:46.280 of paper, but I just didn't really see it. I 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:49.280 ain't never had the type of money I got, especially 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:51.960 like then, like nigga was hustling. I thought I was 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:54.600 rich back then. I got real money. Now, I mean, 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:56.400 now you got something to lose, right. I'm not to 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:58.720 say you never had that before because you lost it already, 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:03.240 But now you know that. I didn't know what I 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:05.960 had to lose until I lost that ship. That's like 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:08.400 losing a good bitch and you ain't know she was 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:10.680 a good one. It was too late, and another nigga 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:13.480 get it and show how to have it her, Like 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:16.400 you know what I'm saying. So yeah, like I got 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:18.760 a lot of shit to lose, I got the same 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:21.840 thing to lose now that I had then. It's just 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:25.280 I appreciate it more now I have family. Then I 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:28.240 had a child, Then I had a rap career in 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:32.040 I had businesses then right I lost that ship. I 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:34.920 ain't appreciate it. I appreciate that shit, nah, I think 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:40.080 like you know, like I said, man, it's clear you're 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:42.480 doing better than you've ever been. But you got the 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:46.160 blinders on and you're working hard. I mean, man, you're 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:49.640 working your ass off. Talk to me about rich Off. 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:52.040 Pint's the first one. Obviously a huge I mean the 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:56.559 sequels coming out tomorrow. But that project I think really 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:59.640 solidified a lot for you. I think it did, too, 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:02.880 went up. I wasn't even expecting it. Like that was 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:04.880 around when I dropped rich Yard Points too. That was 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:07.480 that point where that was the first project I dropped 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:11.160 when I left MO time. And that's when I said, 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:14.400 you know what I don't I'm I'm only making music 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:17.720 for me. I'm making the ship that I'm gonna listen to. 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:20.120 And I get in my car, I want to listen 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:21.840 to the ship that I want to listen to on 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:24.800 a plane, like cause I'm looking forward to for other 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:27.840 niggas to make the music that that that can motivate me. 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:31.079 I say, you know, I'm motivating my motherfucking soup. So 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:33.559 that was the record where I stopped overthinking. That was 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:36.839 the album. I stopped overthinking and I started having fun 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:39.480 with that ship, and I think that's why the outcome 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:43.800 was what it was. So I really learned to don't don't, don't, 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:47.000 don't overthink it and not be in it for for 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:49.400 for the certain ship like I'm not in this shit 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:51.800 for money, no for no more. And at that time, 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:54.520 I ain't had what I got right now financially, so 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:57.679 you know, nigga ain't get some money and they'd be like, nah, 0:11:57.679 --> 0:11:59.920 I ain't working for the money. I wouldn't. I ain't 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:02.120 had no real paper. Then you know, I went in 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:05.280 the streets when I dropped rich out Planks too, you know, 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:08.600 it was all still rap money. Yeah, So it was 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:12.280 just that shit taught me a lot, just moving that way, 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:15.000 not being in shit for money and stream almost like yeah, 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:18.199 like you when you do things and the motive is 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:21.640 I'm chasing a hit or I'm chasing whatever's hopp I 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:24.440 think this is what's gonna work on Spotify. That ship 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:26.240 for the most part, never works out, but when you 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:29.920 just stay true to yourself motive genuine you always win. 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:32.439 I just learned that. I learned that shit with experience, 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:34.960 because I feel like there was like you know, when 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:37.880 you were on Motown, it felt like, you know, you 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:39.840 come up to the mixture meeting a couple of times 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:41.600 and it's almost like we got to chase a hit, 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:43.920 so these motherfuckers are let me drop music. It was 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:47.600 like shit, I was exactly what it was. I got 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:49.400 to hurry up and get these folks they want so 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:52.440 I can do me. I was chasing the hit. I 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:54.839 was in that ship for success. I was in that 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:58.000 ship to take care of my family, to get money 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:00.200 and get rich. I had that on my mind every day. 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:03.560 I woke up and I strived as a rapper. I 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:06.480 gotta get rich. I gotta I gotta make myself a millionaire. 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:09.160 I gotta do this, I gotta do that. I gotta 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:11.320 get I gotta get these trends. I need to go gold. 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:13.040 I need to go plan them. I gotta be big 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:16.000 so I don't waste this opportunity. I got this with 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:19.840 this record label and the moment I once they got 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:23.800 out the situation, all that shit went with it. I 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:26.000 let all that shit go. When I let that shit go, 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:29.560 you heard so, and the outcomes just is amazing and 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:32.480 it still is amazing. I'm still growing, Like I got 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:34.680 a long way to go from where I want to be. 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:36.840 I got extremely long way to go. Like you look 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:39.200 at a lot of a lot of my peers in 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:41.000 the rap game, and I ain't just saying niggas from 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:44.360 the trade just street artists over overall guys that wrap 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:47.120 about the street. His niggas really turn niggas. Got a 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:50.120 hundred million on this bitch, I got a long fucking 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:52.920 way to go. Well, also a lot of these guys, 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:56.640 I mean, obviously you gotta, you know, up the scores 0:13:56.640 --> 0:14:00.000 with Dirk. Think about Dirk's journey man, Like Dirk's journeys, 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:03.439 it been so long, real grind, real grind. Dirk was 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:04.960 kind of like a you know, he was in the 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:07.480 drill scene. He flew under the radar forever, never really 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:10.520 a superstar, and then the last twenty four months it's 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:13.959 just gets out of here for him, crazy going crazy 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:17.000 right now, Like that's a real grind right there, that 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:20.600 he grinded for real. The same said, you know, it's crazy, 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:24.200 the same situation with him once he not was with 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:27.000 his label no more. That's when it happened. Yep, same 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:30.120 ship off as soon as he got departed from his 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:33.680 separated from his label. Soon as they separated, that man 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:37.800 took the fuck off. That's some real shit. How did 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:41.360 you know obviously up the scores like your I mean 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:44.760 that ship's going crazy, yeah, but it's turned still still moving. 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:48.640 I mean, how did the Dirk feature come to be? Like, like, 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:50.880 you guys have had a relationship. I'm assuming we ain't 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:54.960 had no like no friendship relationship type shit. But always 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:57.480 knew him, you know, you knew of me. It was 0:14:57.560 --> 0:15:01.200 just mutual respect just overall, just because being from where 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:03.480 he from, from where I'm from, you know, and like 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:05.240 when I did the song, just heard him on that 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:07.760 bitch and we reached out and that shit got done 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:10.000 with like in like a week. Did you have to 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:12.520 pay him for the future? It was just all love? 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:16.720 Like wow, like we ain't that's big, you know, that 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:19.800 was just all gangs. I mean now you owe in 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:24.960 the future. Yeah, so he had his trade now now 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:27.280 I saw he but I mean money still was invo 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:31.000 of course, of course, but it's just off off of respect. 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:33.360 Like when you see a nigga that big like that, 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:36.320 you know what I'm saying, Like you can run with 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:38.480 some free ship you feel me. But it's like when 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:41.200 you want the business to be done and to be 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:44.040 done properly, and I want a profit off of this song. 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:46.160 You want to maximize the potential of the song, everyone's 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:48.800 got to get situated. So it's like, man, listen, huh, 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:51.840 fucked that hunt? Like yeah, him, you get what I'm saying, 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:54.040 But it wouldn't know, like I didn't have to pay 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:56.680 for that verse at all, but that shit got done 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:59.560 because of the business part and just out of respect 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:02.880 like that ain't no food, Like nigga, I just give 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:04.640 you no more fucking song and you put it on 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:08.080 iTunes and you maximizing out on this ship. You're getting 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:11.120 booked for shows off this ship, and nigga just ain't 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:13.560 getting nothing. You know, you either one or two things 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:17.040 gonna happen. That's that song ain't gonna get supported or 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:20.200 you feel me. You gotta bless that nigga. You know shit, 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:22.600 come you feel me? I mean he blessed you back. 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:25.000 I saw you. You were on the I don't know 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:27.240 how many dates of the Little Baby Dirk Toy you're on, 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:29.240 but I know you're on the Phoenix right for show. Yeah, 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:32.360 what what I mean? That's a big that's a big thing. Yeah, 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:34.880 I ain't doing every date because I'm you know, I 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:38.040 got so many shows booked up. But like if if, 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:40.320 if this ship would have came about before, like all 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:43.040 them shows, I could have did every single day. But 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:45.160 you're doing spot dates on the tour exactly the dates 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:47.120 I'm available. I ain't want to just cancel all of 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:50.200 my fucking shows. That's still my money. Yeah, that ain't 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:53.080 a toy, Like I ain't getting paid off of that. 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:55.800 Like I wouldn't even want know, that's opportunities, opportunity. I 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:57.480 ain't a food, you know what I'm saying. I wouldn't 0:16:57.480 --> 0:17:00.920 even go in no situations like that. Ask for right right, 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:03.600 right right, get in front of all those fans. Prices 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:06.439 it don't even make it'll be you'll be a food. 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:09.200 Yeah what I mean? That shit just sound dumb for sure, 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:10.800 I feel me so. But at the same time, I 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:14.119 got to female family niggat forty thousand shows, so I 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:17.800 gotta get my You're heard, so right now, if a 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:21.840 promoter hits you forty racks, that's a concert. What if 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:23.320 somebody wants you to come and do one song at 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:27.680 the club now, No, no, how about this, I'm gonna 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:30.400 present it this way. They want you to do one 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:33.159 song in the club, but it's a market where you're lit, 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:36.240 pop out, pop out, come and do the record at 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:41.720 the DJ boost half. Okay, all right, but you know 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:43.639 what it was crazy? Is I appreciate about you? Is 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:46.600 like I know that you know that it ain't like 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:49.440 that everywhere. So if it's some random ass market where 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:50.720 you're like, man, I'm trying to get in front of 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:53.720 some new people, I'm gonna do it for free, that's crazy. 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:55.960 I ain't gonna cut like to this day. Like, if 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:58.560 I know I ain't turned in the market, I'm I 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:00.760 not gotta be in that bit something on it for free. 0:18:01.000 --> 0:18:03.040 If it's a market where I'm lit at, come on, 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:05.520 I gotta make your of course, I can go get 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:07.960 some money from any promoter in this market. But if 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:11.040 it's some ship where I ain't motherfuckers ain't really hip 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:14.720 to my music, I gotta go regardless. So if it's 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:17.399 just it's just being that process up now, I just 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:20.920 got a free flight to this motherfucker, free travel, free room, 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:24.199 bring my team campaign in the New City, exactly. I 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:26.399 gotta do it free. I don't think like that I 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:29.800 really don't move for money, Bro, I really don't. Okay, 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:33.000 I've been seeing you around QC a lot, seeing you 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:37.000 around P a lot. So you obviously dropped the record 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:44.399 with Baby. Shout out to Baby. I'm assuming you just 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:47.520 got out of a major situation. But with as hot 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:51.120 as you are right now, I'm assuming that everyone's trying 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:53.439 to try to lure you back onto that side of 0:18:53.480 --> 0:19:00.399 the game. Everybody right means every label. So what's you know? 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:04.280 I'm sure QC might be an option for you. You know, 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:08.919 is there is Are you considering going back on that 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:11.920 side of the game. Man, we were gonna we feel 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:14.960 me whatever? Have we gonna? This shit gonna pop out? 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:16.760 I would like to just point out that there is 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:20.280 one company that you could sign with and get the 0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:23.920 best of both worlds. And there's a bald guy from 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:28.600 Palestine named Ghazi who I think. I'm just saying. Guys, 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:31.160 he are real. Guys are really solid. Let me tell 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:33.480 you something about guys. We're gonna get you on Empire. Bro, 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:37.679 we gotta kick it. I fucked with guys. It just doing. Man. Listen, Bro, 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:40.920 I just text guys the other day. Ain't give me back? Yeah, 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:43.879 you know, I don't know Gus he textas his wife back, 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:46.560 but it don't me and Ghazi. You know it's crazy, bro, 0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:49.200 I knew Gatzi for like four years. We ain't never 0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:52.760 talked about no business. We had one conversation about some business. 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:57.200 This was last January. We always text about just regular ship, 0:19:57.320 --> 0:20:00.600 like what's up, Hope, all is well? You know, doing 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:04.160 your thing. It's always regular conference. We never text about 0:20:04.200 --> 0:20:05.640