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BMW reporting a five 11 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: point two percent gain and profit last year on higher 12 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: vehicle deliveries as the world's largest maker of luxury cars 13 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: pushes to stay ahead of Mercedes Benz USA Authendex future 14 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: is higher. We checked the markets every fifteen minutes throughout 15 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 1: the trading day on Bloomberg, SNP Emni futures up eight points, 16 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: Dow E Mini futures up sixty nine and NASDAC emni 17 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: futures up sixteen. DAX in Germany's up one point two 18 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: per cent. To in your treasury down fourteen thirty seconds, 19 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: the yield one point eight seven per cent. N i'm 20 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: x screwed oil up one point four percent or fifty 21 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: one cents to thirty seven oh one a barrel com 22 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: XS goal down seven tenths per cent or eight dollars 23 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: fifty cents to twelve fifty four fifty announced the euro 24 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,279 Speaker 1: a dollar oh nine five to the N one twelve 25 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: point eight zero. That's a bottle Berg business flash. Tom 26 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: and Mike Karen, thank you so much. Good morning everyone, 27 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: It is on Wall Street. The following is from Bloomberg 28 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: View opinions in commentary from Bloomberg columnists. I'm Megan mccartell, 29 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: a columnists from lumber View. For the reason chatter, Donald 30 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: Trump is unlikely to run as a third party candidate, 31 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: even is denied the Republican nomination. The reasons simple, you 32 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: can't afford it. According to Trump's personal financial disclosure form, 33 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: he had about three hundred million in cash and marketable securities. 34 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: That's a lot of money, yet not enough to run 35 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: a major presidential campaign, which now clocks in and around 36 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: one billion dollars, and to be competitive in the general 37 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: he would have to spend something close to that amount. 38 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: Because one sits down to two or three candidates, the 39 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: media is going to make sure the other folks get 40 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: as much airtime as he does. Nor can he do 41 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: without little things like campaign staff and I Get out 42 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: the Vote operation. He could maybe mortgage some of his interests, 43 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: borrowing a billion dollars to find a campaign, but this 44 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: seems unlikely for one thing. By the most generous non 45 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 1: Trump estimates of his net worth, that would mean mortgaging 46 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: about a quarter of his assets for a near certain loss, 47 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: even if he was mad enough to try, our bankers 48 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: insane enough to help him. As known expert Donald Trump 49 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: once noted, these lenders aren't babies. These are total killers. 50 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: They're not nice, sweet little people that you'd think one 51 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: suspects they might in the end be the ones to 52 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: kill any hope of a third party campaign. I'm Megan mccartell. 53 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: For more view please go to Bloomberg View dot com 54 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: or view go on the Bloomberg terminal. This has been 55 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: Bloomberg View and Bloomberg View count Terry comm heared hourly weekdays, 56 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: and Bloomberg Radio might brexit well for a lot of 57 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: people who are not as concerned with politics as they 58 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: are with the financial markets. Tomorrow is the big day 59 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: Mario jog and his colleagues at the European Central Bank 60 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: get together and decide what they are going to do. 61 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: Koleva is chief economist at G plus Economics, and she 62 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: joins us now with her forecast Lena. The most interesting 63 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 1: note to me this morning was somebody writing that they 64 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: had noted how many people were thinking that Mario Jo 65 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: would have a very hard time living up to the 66 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: market's expectations for what he can do tomorrow. What do 67 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: you think he will do? And is it going to 68 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: be enough? Hi, Mike Tom It's great to be with you. Um, 69 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: I think, um, yes, it is true that it is 70 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: uphill struggle. I think at this point for any central 71 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: banker out there to face up to a fairly agnostic 72 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: and increasingly skeptical market with respect to the power central 73 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: banks to reflecate the global economy. Um. But specifically to 74 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: a question for tomorrow, there three choice is really more 75 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: quie more negative interest rates or what I call helicopter money, 76 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: which is basically reviving the old Veltro very long term operations, 77 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: merging them with the Teltro's the targeted long term operations 78 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: and ultimate coming up with the what I call the ultros, 79 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: which is the targeted long the very long term umre 80 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: co operations. In other words, creating something very close to 81 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: helicopter money without trying to the apple pat in terms 82 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 1: of political attitudes. Thank you. You'll ask me with the 83 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: alphabet soup define helicopter money, help me with the Sakorski approach, 84 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: what does helicopter money actually mean? Well to the helicopter 85 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 1: money is basically the equivalent of KEWI, but without center 86 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: banks actually having to boton themselves with the hard choices 87 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: of deciding what assets or how much has this to 88 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: buy and others just distributing creating money to do to 89 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: be distributed in the private sector. UM and as we know, 90 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: the ECB has been running against some some critical technical constraints, 91 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: in particular the fact that UM they're listing so much 92 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 1: imagery out of the market in terms of government bonds 93 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: that there are creating sound supply shot bottlenecks because austerity 94 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: in the Eurozone means the governments are not printings are sorry, 95 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: they're not learning, they're not borrowing as much money from 96 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: the markets, they're not printing as many securities. Another form 97 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: of money. So, in other words, um, if the matter 98 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: dragon is now facing the constraints of how much bonds 99 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: and how quickly he can buy these bonds and can 100 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: get them off banks balance sheets and replace them with cash, 101 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: which then hopefully finds its way into the real economy. Well, 102 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: another way to go about that is to actually subsidize 103 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 1: banks that are just taking cash in order to create credit. 104 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 1: I think told me, if I may just take a 105 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: step back from this, I think, what we have to 106 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: remember here, Wow, there's just this enormous discussion about what 107 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: they might announced tomorrow. The answer central banking UM is 108 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: about convincing the private sector that whatever it announces it 109 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: will lift inflation expectations, it will reflate the real economy 110 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: by creating the risk consent with for lenders to generate credit. 111 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: And so it is very much about convincing the markets 112 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: that what it sounds it will be enough as opposed 113 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: to the technicalities of vot comes. Well, that's the question 114 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: I was posing at the beginning. Is he going to 115 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: be able to convince the markets because so far inflation 116 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: expectations aren't rising, The economy is modeling along, it hasn't collapsed, 117 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: but that's hardly the benchmark people are looking for, absolutely, Mike. 118 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: I mean, this is the trouble with the ECB is 119 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: that they've had this very unfavorable optics of an expanding 120 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: balance sheet yet a strengthening Europe and uh perfalling inflation 121 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: expectations since the start of the year. I think that 122 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 1: there are two forces that are really bigger than the 123 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: ECB in play here. First, central banks are no longer 124 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: in charge of market conditions. It is as you and 125 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: Tom have often said in your program, it is capital 126 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: flows that are driving UM. Capital allocation by investors which 127 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: are driven by credit quality concerns as opposed to the 128 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: fundamental policy liquidity and rate differentials UM as the key 129 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: market driving the markets this year. And so the result 130 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: is that neither banks stalks, no general stock markets, volatilities, 131 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: no exchange rates in this case the euro. So the 132 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: three court transmission channels for central banks UM record low 133 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: interest rates and quantity of easing have conformed to what 134 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: they need to be expected that it will happen since 135 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: the launch of QI. And the other big issue here 136 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: is that you know, if we look at what the 137 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: border sets for that matter, are facing the next week 138 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: when when you look at the market conditions from a 139 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: thousand feet up in the air, it is the the 140 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: over supply of liquidity as opposed to fundamental shifts and 141 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: the real economic prospects that are increasingly behind financial valuations. 142 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: And this in some cases, particularly in the case of 143 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: government bonds, is leading to significant temporary pricing imbalances opposed 144 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: to the upside and to the downside for yields. So, 145 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: in other words, too much liquidity in the market, crowded 146 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: and by negative rates, by emerging market corporate default years, 147 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: by volatile stocks, by negative market correlations, all of that 148 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: creates this market inequidity and dislocation, and this in translates 149 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: this some new types of behavior and liquidity to risks 150 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: and periods of market stress, which diminishes investor convedence in 151 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: the strength of central banks to actually dictate the very 152 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: financial conditions that determine the transmission mechanism into the real economy. 153 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: When I look, Lena, what to listen for tomorrow at 154 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: eight thirty, what will be the tone that you want 155 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: to see? Is a deflation disinflation talk? Does he dare 156 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: even mention brexit? I mean, I can't fail that it's 157 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: Hardy skirted around it earlier this week. What will you 158 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: listen for, Well, I I'm hoping that we will hear 159 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 1: a central banker that faces up to the challenges of today, 160 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 1: and that is that the your zone economy is in 161 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: the heart of a global turbulence of geo economic and 162 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: political and geo financial forces that are endangered to yours 163 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: own inflation stability but also very much a danger to 164 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: your own growth and financial stability going forward. And so 165 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: I think the Mary Dragon does have to convince the 166 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: markets that he has the power to deliver whatever it takes, 167 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: which is really what the market started to question since 168 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: the political position two more que back in December. The 169 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: ECB has gone some way to rectify that, of course 170 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: through the announcement of extension of QUI in January, but 171 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: it's clearly it hasn't been enough. So what will have 172 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: been enough? And um, how confident really? I think the 173 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: key thing Tom is whether drug says that he's confident 174 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: that the ECB will reach its inflation target over the 175 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: medium term and what that medium term actually means. Lena, 176 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: come away, but think you so much greatly appreciate it is. 177 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: We've got nice briefing as we go to Mr Dragon tomorrow. 178 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: I saw Mr Dragon Tomorrow, Folks, this is a place 179 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: to be. Mike McKie and I had the advantage of 180 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: our European economics and government team, particularly economic folks led 181 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: by Marty Schenker. And it's real simple. The headline st 182 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: are coming out and they have value, particularly that Michael 183 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: McKee can interpret them for you far better and more 184 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: rapidly than I can. What will you look for, Mike, Well, 185 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: the first thing at seven forty five will have the 186 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: details of the announcement on interest rates, and we'll look 187 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: to the deposit rate and see if they cut that 188 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: further into negative territory. Somebody suggested yesterday they could even 189 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: go to zero or negative on the refi rate, the 190 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: main benchmark rate. That would be interesting. Uh. And then 191 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: we'll go from there thirty Mario Draggy and whether or 192 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 1: not he goes into more negative rates, whether he does 193 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: more qui or as Lena says, figures out a way 194 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: to do helicopter money. Yeah, I I it's it's not 195 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: Is any of this in the textbooks. I really don't 196 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: think so. The text it's in the theory part in 197 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: the chapter on theories that are unproven. I like that. 198 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: I didn't really I miss that chapter. Um, we'll see 199 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: how Mario drag tomorrow with our coverage worldwide and we 200 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: will dip into that conference as we are want to do. 201 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: We will give you the actual holler of it is 202 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: the Mr Dragon speaks green on the screen, features up 203 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: seven the tenure yield. It was a good five basis 204 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: points one. This is Bloomberg's surveillance