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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I almost famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with our radio. Hey everybody, this is the been An

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Speaker 1: Ashley I almost there this podcast, but you've got half

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Speaker 1: of me today. I am so sick. I've got the flu.

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Speaker 1: So if you're if I sound stuffy, if I'm coughing

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Speaker 1: over the mic, forgive me. Um. But we you know

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Speaker 1: Ari doesn't stop dating, so we're not going to keep

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Speaker 1: stopped talking. This is so sad, like there's like a

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Speaker 1: flu epidemic. It's actually insane. I don't want it. I

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Speaker 1: got I got a shot and you didn't get a shot.

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Speaker 1: And I want to know why so many people out

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Speaker 1: there don't get shots. I mean, I know it doesn't

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Speaker 1: fully prevent it, but it means it increases your odds

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Speaker 1: of being saved. You really want to know. So I

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Speaker 1: am not a conspiracy theorist at all. I really am not.

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Speaker 1: I have one theory that I have always had since

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Speaker 1: I was a little kid, I mean since I was

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Speaker 1: in elementary school. I fought this. I believe that if

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be a mass sickness spread across in the world,

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Speaker 1: it's going to be through the flu shot. And I

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Speaker 1: would rather build up my immune system by not getting

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Speaker 1: the flu shot, been getting it. So I'll take getting

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Speaker 1: sick every year for four or five days as long

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Speaker 1: as internally I am as healthy as I can be.

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Speaker 1: So like zombie Apocalypse, like you think the walking Dad's

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Speaker 1: gonna happen from flu shots? Yeah, and just wait till

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Speaker 1: that happens. And I'm laughing at everybody because I've never

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Speaker 1: gotten a flu shot. But hey, Ben, what about like

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Speaker 1: other vaccines? Are you very like Jenny McCarthy about it?

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Speaker 1: Are you just not not down with vaccines? Not really?

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Speaker 1: I mean I go to Central America all the time,

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Speaker 1: and I'd never get take any of the like malaria medication.

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Speaker 1: I never I don't take a lot of medication. Um,

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Speaker 1: that's probably your responsive to me, And I really don't

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Speaker 1: know why. I though, I just feel like if something's

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Speaker 1: gonna happen, it's gonna happen, saying anyway, Okay, that cool,

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Speaker 1: Yeah I think that anyway, moving on, so you think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell everybody about what's going on. So Ashley

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Speaker 1: is so nervous about this, and I want to tell

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Speaker 1: you that it's really endearing because my co host cares

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Speaker 1: so much about everybody listens to this show that we

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Speaker 1: have a really big segment that we're going to talk about.

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Speaker 1: And the only thing she's worried about through text emails

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Speaker 1: and offsos be prepared for this podcast was, Hey, we

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Speaker 1: gotta warned everybody that we're gonna be slightly spoiling the

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Speaker 1: ending of this year's backs. They're not fully spoilant, but

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about what happens because it became public,

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Speaker 1: and so now because of actually, I want to warn

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Speaker 1: everybody for the next five minutes, we're gonna be slightly

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Speaker 1: spoiling the ending. So if you don't want to listen,

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Speaker 1: pose it and tune back in after this small segment.

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Speaker 1: A spoiler. Spoiler, now hold on things a spoiler because

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Speaker 1: a lot of fans we're tweeting, tweeting, yeah, tweeting this

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Speaker 1: theory towards me the spoiler whatever you wanna call it.

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Speaker 1: And I even gotta know what. I was like, you guys,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to keep this season secret because I don't

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Speaker 1: know Ari whatsoever, and I don't even know well other

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Speaker 1: be the perfect season for me to not have to

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Speaker 1: know what goes down the last episode. But here's the theory, guys.

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Speaker 1: So here's the spoiler. Okay, ready, you have five seconds. One.

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Speaker 1: know our source on this. Who's our source on this? Amy, Well,

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Speaker 1: Ari pulls a Jason Mesnick and he picks one girl

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Speaker 1: in the finale and now is currently with another girl. Ben,

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Speaker 1: He says I love you to two people, or he

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Speaker 1: So Are falls in love with more than one woman?

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Speaker 1: I think that's what he was doing in communicating his love. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I actually don't see a problem with telling two people

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Speaker 1: it's totally normal to fall in love with two people.

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Speaker 1: I think it's the saying out loud that that they

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Speaker 1: But here's the situation, and I explained it a couple

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Speaker 1: So Molly comes out and Mesnick tells her like, I

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Speaker 1: You know, like that wasn't a thing for me. No,

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00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I mean you can tell that

428
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 1: she just surprises me so much in every episode. And

429
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 1: I never even knew you would have you would have

430
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,239
Speaker 1: never known that she had such a strong connection with

431
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 1: this guy. Um, she's really smart. She has like a

432
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,919
Speaker 1: little bit of this old soul she knows. She just

433
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 1: does so well, and like it's really uncomfortable when you're

434
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 1: just like with all the cameras, it's it's not that easying,

435
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 1: like from night one, she was just really comfortable with him. Um,

436
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: I don't think that her age is an issue at all.

437
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 1: She's but I think she makes up for her age

438
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 1: with her confidence. Honestly, I think as actually and I've

439
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 1: talked in the podcast, take her age at the consideration here,

440
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't really matter. She just has She

441
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:58,160
Speaker 1: exudes a confidence that I haven't seen on this show

442
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 1: in a long time. I agree, Um, I don't think

443
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 1: that her age is an issue at on. I think

444
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:08,199
Speaker 1: that she kind of either when he is concerned, she

445
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 1: knows how to just put him in his place, you know,

446
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 1: just to kind of reassure him that, you know, age

447
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 1: is really nothing but a number, and that confidence is

448
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 1: just she surprises me every episode. I'm just like wow,

449
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 1: because just so I think that you thought Becca was

450
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: cool even when you were in her presence. Yeah. Is

451
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 1: there anyone on this show that it's coming across differently

452
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 1: on TV than you experience in the house. M hm No. Interesting,

453
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 1: Well that that leads us into something that I mean,

454
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,679
Speaker 1: you know, one thing Astley has always said about you

455
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: be beana to my on the podcast, and also uh

456
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,439
Speaker 1: and and private is she know she respects you so

457
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 1: much because if you're confident and in your ability to

458
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: communicate your feelings, well, Um, one one situation, kind of

459
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 1: the way we we best got to know you on

460
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 1: the Bachelor is through your relationship with Crystal, And so

461
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 1: kind of all of want to ask you this question

462
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: there after now watching a few weeks after you've left

463
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: and seeing more of Crystal, is this a surprise to

464
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,199
Speaker 1: you the person that she's coming off as or is

465
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: this who you knew during the show. Um, it doesn't

466
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: surprise me, but it's not the person that I saw.

467
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: Like I never had an issue with Crystal ever. Um,

468
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:28,399
Speaker 1: it's not like I didn't like her or um she

469
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 1: was like that with me at all. I just felt

470
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 1: the need to kind of just I kind of became

471
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: like this protector over the girls, and everybody was really

472
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: frustrated with her, and I spoke a lot of truth

473
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: and she clearly. I mean, you would think that someone

474
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,239
Speaker 1: confronting her that early on would be would have been

475
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: like a good kind of like a hint like hate.

476
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: People are already feeling this way, like maybe you should

477
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 1: fall back a little bit. Um, But she's she's not. Um,

478
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,400
Speaker 1: And I understand, and I respect the fact that she's

479
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: there for Ari I do. I totally see that. But

480
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: you know, you are in this really unique um situation

481
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 1: and environment with all these other women that are trying,

482
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 1: like other women are really trying to be respectful. So

483
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 1: when you have that one person that's just like not cooperating,

484
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: it just you know, you're seeing that a lot now,

485
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 1: you know where it's just people are really starting to

486
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 1: get frustrated. I don't know if I wouldn't been able

487
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 1: to hang on that long, I was gonna say that, Actually,

488
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 1: you have always been somebody that I think has kept

489
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 1: their cool through this whole franchise. You've know' listen, yeah, no,

490
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 1: you showed emotion and you've gotten upset, but you've also

491
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: been able to logically kind of see everything for what

492
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 1: it is. Um I want to hear, and I know

493
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 1: Crystal's kind of rubbed you at times the wrong way

494
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: during the season, and not her personally. We're not let's

495
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 1: not attack Crystal personally, but her behavior and the things

496
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: she's doing. I want to kind of live it up

497
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: to YouTube as women who have done this show what

498
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 1: kind of causes that or what kind of rubbed you

499
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 1: the wrong way about her behavior. Well, I definitely think

500
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: it was condescending. I think she always thought that she

501
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 1: was the top of the girl gang, like she was

502
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 1: the number one and like everybody else was kind of

503
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: runner up to her. And then there are some weird

504
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: things that make you a villain in the house. One

505
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: of those is not telling the girls the standus of

506
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: your relationship, like coming home from a date and being like,

507
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 1: you know, that's private between us. That's like number one

508
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 1: rule of becoming a villain. Um. There's another thing, her

509
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: pity party, staying home from the date. That was where

510
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 1: I was like, uh, and when she interrupted the rose ceremony.

511
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: Those are my two things where I'm like you, I

512
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 1: can't even like you. I've been trying. Yeah, I I

513
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: completely agree that, Like I can respect someone not feeling

514
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 1: comfortable sharing all the details of a date like you

515
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: don't have, Like that's just not a comfortable thing, Like

516
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: if that's what she felt she needed to do, Like

517
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,199
Speaker 1: that didn't rub me the wrong way, now, no, it was.

518
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,199
Speaker 1: I think it's more just what you just said, like

519
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: interrupting the role ceremony, like that's not fair to everybody else,

520
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's not supposed to be. I get

521
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: the whole idea, like she's just trying to talk to him,

522
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 1: but that conversation didn't need to happen. Okay. Another way

523
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: of becoming a villain is probably making sneaky ways to

524
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: get alone time when you're not supposed to have one.

525
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: So hence, you know, interrupting a rose ceremony in my season,

526
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 1: Kelsey faked or something, a fainting spell, like it's just

527
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: trying to get the attention of the bachelor in a

528
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: way that is not conventional. Bugged me. It's like, I

529
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: don't care she grabs him first, or grabs him eight times.

530
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: In fact, a ten year old last night said to me,

531
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: oh yeah, Crystal, the one who takes all the time

532
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: steal time stealer. That's a villain. They can handle that.

533
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: But when she interrupted the rose room, and it's like,

534
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't everybody want to do that? Why are you special?

535
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,199
Speaker 1: You gotta like follow the rules kind What obviously was

536
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 1: worse than interrupting the rose ceremony was her being a

537
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: total diva when it came to skipping out on the

538
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 1: group date because Ari was a liar. Well, here's most

539
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: in all three of you should already have gone up

540
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 1: to her room. I think absolutely not. That was giving

541
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 1: into what she was hoping was going to happen. That

542
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: was that. But I think he was just doing a

543
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: respectful thing. I don't know, I don't know if that's

544
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: respectful to the other girls. I think that was giving

545
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 1: her exactly what she planned on getting from that move.

546
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: I think it was a yeah, sorry, no, UM. I

547
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: think you can start to see how she's beginning to manipulate.

548
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: And I just I don't think that it was wrong

549
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: of him to go up and talk to her, you know,

550
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: and check in UM. I mean, he was really honest

551
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: with the women and was like, I don't want it

552
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: to affect the ninth So it's something that he needed

553
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: to address. UM. And I kind of heres that to

554
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: me was I didn't I didn't get a chance to

555
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: talk to Rits. I didn't know like a lot about him,

556
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,040
Speaker 1: and to see him kind of handle that was do

557
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: we attracted to me? Because he's just like, let me

558
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: go up and talk to her, and even the way

559
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: that he liked their conversation and you know, everything he said.

560
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: I thought that that was good of him to kind

561
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: of just let her know, like, this is not cool,

562
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: you know, and then he's like, you need to stay

563
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: in your room. Yeah, yeah, I'll see you in a

564
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: couple of days. He was a couple of days. So

565
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: then I have a question. Did she go then down

566
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 1: to the party but never saw Ari? Yeah? So she

567
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: did end up going down to the party and Becca

568
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: like scared her? What? And then she only showed up

569
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: for a brief time until Yeah, I guess Becca was like,

570
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: what are you doing here? You said you weren't going

571
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: to come? Okay? Yah? Um? Can we talked about Winter Games? Now? Yeah?

572
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: All right, let's do it. Bibby. You left Ari season.

573
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: You didn't really like Ari, right, you just didn't. Yeah,

574
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: I mean it's just I can't. I didn't. I didn't

575
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: get to know him, you know, so you threw some

576
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: mad shit on him on Instagram? What do you think

577
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: of Nick Vile's name for you? No chill? No? I

578
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: love it? Yeah, that's like what That's what Nick says

579
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: to me? And I'm like, Nick, do you really want

580
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: a girl with chill? Those are they're boring? I he

581
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: nailed it though, when his girls, Like I knew that

582
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,719
Speaker 1: I was no Chill, but I didn't really realize how intense. Like,

583
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: I'm just such an intense human being. And it's kind

584
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: of when you finally see yourself and your personally like

585
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: on TV, you're just like, oh, that's what my best

586
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: friend says that, Like my eyes get crazy, and then

587
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,719
Speaker 1: I'm just like you speak with this intensity. I'm just oh, gosh,

588
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: that's what my dad, you know, my dad. My dad

589
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: was like how my first season or like every season,

590
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: my Dad's like, why is she still there? How is

591
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: she still there? You? Yeah, Like she's so dramatic, like

592
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 1: how is this guy? I like saying though she learned

593
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: something about herself that other people had maybe pointed out

594
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: to her that she didn't believe until she watched it. Yeah,

595
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: I don't mind, no Chill. I mean, you've got to

596
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: own it. You know, it's my personality. And I can

597
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: sit here and be like kind of just shut off

598
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: about it, but really it's just it shines and I'm like, Okay,

599
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: well I'm no Chill, and maybe I just need to

600
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: meditate and pray a little bit more. It just means

601
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: you're passionate and your vocal about it. Yeah, alright, so

602
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: maybe we obviously got to spend some time. Uh. You know,

603
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: actually I get spend some time with you at Winter Games.

604
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: I really respected you and Ashley had a very uh

605
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: let's just say this Winner game is gonna be a

606
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: lot of fun. There's some great relationships with form and

607
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: you would actually have a situation that comes up during

608
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: Winter Games that could have completely destroyed your friendship, but

609
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: the two of you handled it so well. And I

610
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: think and and to to be very vague here, this

611
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 1: situation happens in the real world a lot, and they

612
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: oftentimes destroys friendships. But the two of you, I think,

613
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: build a relationship around this common interest during Winter Games. Bibby,

614
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: how close do you feel that actually based on that

615
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: experience during Winter Games, I mean we instantly connected and bonded.

616
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: I feel like we come from the same planet. Yeah. Um,

617
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: you know, for me, it's so important to just be

618
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: completely open with people. And I think a lot of

619
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: the times when you're just not vocal about where your

620
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: feelings are at, it leads others to just like it

621
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: leaves it to the imagination, right, So I wanted to

622
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: make sure that we tackle this head on. And you know,

623
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: like if she was seeing a certain way that she

624
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: was always honest with me, and we continuously kept checking

625
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: in with each other and seeing where we were at.

626
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: And I was really happy that she spoke up because

627
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: the first you know, obviously she's she's like friends with

628
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: all the guys, and that's intimidating as well. And so

629
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: the first few days we didn't really get a chance

630
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: to talk about at it. And then as time went on,

631
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: you know, I it was just good to see, like

632
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: we it's easier really, like if you just if women

633
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,959
Speaker 1: were to talk to each other more, they probably just

634
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: like get through so much. Um. Yeah, you allowed me

635
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: to be so open with it. Yeah, I think it's

636
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: just and then you see, right, so like as we

637
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: were talking, I don't know, I can I don't. I

638
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm saying too much, but like we

639
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Speaker 1: would talk about it, and you could tell like her

640
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: relationship was forming a lot more and I wasn't feeling

641
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: it either. You know, I think this is a quite No,

642
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: it's it's perfect, it's fine. You feel just feel comfortable. Well,

643
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: everything is good here. I want to ask the two

644
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: of you then to talk about it, um because man

645
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: or woman, what you two did is a very difficult thing.

646
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Speaker 1: So I want to leave it up to YouTube. Why

647
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: were you two so open with each other? Why did

648
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: you choose to communicate in the way that you did?

649
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: Because I respected it and I felt like it because

650
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: of the decisions you made and then I'll stop your

651
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: if they don't want to speak for you. It allowed

652
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: less conflict to enter in. So why did the two

653
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: of you decide to communicate the way you did. I

654
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: just think that we hit it off so immediately, like

655
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: on day one, that I knew that she would giving

656
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: you one of my closest girlfriends in the house. And

657
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: maybe it's like not easily angered. Actually, she's just like

658
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: such an emotional person that you can just talk to

659
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,439
Speaker 1: her about anything, and you think that the normal person

660
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: would be like, okay, wait what and then she doesn't

661
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: react like that at all. Maybe that's that's if that's

662
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: the priding to hear because you are fiery, you are

663
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: intense and actually sitting over there saying that you're not

664
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Speaker 1: easily angered. And I think for most most of the

665
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 1: viewers out there and the listeners this podcast, they would

666
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: associate no chill with anger. She puts you are you

667
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: not easily angered? She puts girl friends first. She really

668
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: is like girl power, really girl power. Um, I don't

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Speaker 1: you know, And this is how I explain it to people, Like,

670
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: you're not going to see every detail of you know

671
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: what of my night during that road ceremony right where

672
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: Crystal and I kind of just had our like things,

673
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: but because there's so much more going on that you know,

674
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: people need to see as well. So like me getting

675
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,439
Speaker 1: to that point came from somewhere. You know. It wasn't

676
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: just like I snapped. It wasn't that. It was just

677
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: a build up and a series of things that had

678
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: happened that I felt strongly like to just tell Crystal

679
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: what was happening. And yeah, I was. I was really

680
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: angry and I could have taken I could have killed

681
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: a lot um But for me, like when you're continuously

682
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: talking to each other and being open and vulnerable, like

683
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: you just see that you're I don't know, I just

684
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: I connected with Ashley and I always wanted her to

685
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: feel comfortable around me, and by not talking, that's when

686
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: you kind of shut people off. And I am someone

687
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 1: who puts um my girlfriend's first, you know, I think

688
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: that it's extremely important too to just it's like a

689
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: girl power thing. It's really it's a girl power things

690
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: you put. You very much respect women and their feelings. Yeah,

691
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: and I definitely do. And and I think it's super

692
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: nice that actually is just saying like, I'm not this

693
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: like angry person. I actually I take my time. Um,

694
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: even my relationships. I'm so open. I'm such an open

695
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: person Like communication to me is the most important thing,

696
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: because then how do you build a foundation and a

697
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:43,280
Speaker 1: friendship or anything, you know. So I'm I'm so happy

698
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: that I gained a friend. Yeah, I mean that's pretty good.

699
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: With my last question, then it's Ashley and Vidriana YouTube

700
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: obviously had a very personal experience at Winter Games. Why

701
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: are you excited for our listeners out there and for

702
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: the fans of the bachor now to watch Winter Games?

703
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 1: What about Winter Games meant so much to you two? Um,

704
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 1: I'm most excited. Uh. I think that I was a

705
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: lot more of myself at Winter Games. It was comfortable,

706
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: I was comfortable. We had such a good time. Um.

707
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: And I think that people will see that, you know,

708
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: I think people see that I'm not just like just

709
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: fiery um over the opinionated woman. I also know how

710
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: to have fun and goof around and you know, can

711
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: just have a good time and be myself. So I'm

712
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: really excited to see how it all plays out. So

713
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 1: I just wanted to say that I like the way

714
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: that you can see two girls just really support each other,

715
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: um before anyone else. Yeah, yeah, I mean that's it,

716
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: And I think that's what I saw in the two

717
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: of you as you support each other. You're communicated with

718
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 1: each other in a situation that is formed to cause

719
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: unflicked and it is formed jealousy. You two fought through

720
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: that and you rose above it. And for me, as

721
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: a friend of both of you, I really respected that

722
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 1: and I learned a lot from the way you treated

723
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 1: each other. So I'm excited for people to watch from

724
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 1: their games because they're gonna see conflict, they're gonna see

725
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: the drama, they're gonna see the relationships. They're going to

726
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: see the excitement and the intrigue of what a Bachelor's

727
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: show brings. But they're also going to see two people

728
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: right above it all and say, Okay, we want what's

729
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: best for each other here, and that's what you two did. Yeah. Thanks,

730
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: when you really put that, well, yeah, thank you, Amy, Amy.

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00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: I know that you have talked to you know, the

732
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: producers of the Winter Games. I know you that you

733
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: know a lot of what's going on there. What are

734
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: you excited for people to watch about Winter Games? What

735
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: do you excide to watch all? Y'all? I just like watching,

736
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: you know. I think one thing the reason Paradise is

737
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: so successful is we're watching people we already have gotten

738
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 1: to know. It is a lot more fun to watch

739
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,479
Speaker 1: when we know you guys. Somewhat the hardest part about

740
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: Bachelor is I'm like, who is that? Who is that?

741
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: Who is that? Who is that? So that's why those

742
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: spinoff shows are so enjoyable, because we're watching friends or

743
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: people we already hate, are people we already like, and

744
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 1: it makes it way better. Yeah, I totally agree. What's

745
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: going to be? Um? What's going to be? I have

746
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: to have a little preview. Um. The people that I

747
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: worked with over at ABC for The Bachelor Instagram they

748
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: said that they got to watch the first episode a

749
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 1: couple of days ago, and the girls were like running

750
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,439
Speaker 1: up and down the cubicle hallways being like Batchlor Winter

751
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: Games is the best Batchelor spinoff ever. They're like, we

752
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: promised we weren't saying that because we're biased. Ords you like,

753
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: it's actually fantastic. Oh that's yeah, right, you guys kill it.

754
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: I mean you're a great representation during Winter Games of

755
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: how this whole show can actually be real, it can

756
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: actually be good, it can be beneficial, and it represents

757
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: at some level what life could look like outside of

758
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,439
Speaker 1: the show. So I think Amy speak as she said,

759
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: something that really resonated me. And what I loved about

760
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: being on Win our game is there's people from all

761
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: of the world, people we don't quite know yet that

762
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: come in to Vermont and they experienced something, um that

763
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,720
Speaker 1: a lot of us has gotten experience before a Bachelor's

764
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: spinoff show. However, for them they're new to it. We

765
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: get to meet them, we get the For some of us,

766
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: we get to build relationships with them. And I think

767
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: it's going to be so exciting for the fans of

768
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: the Bachelor here in the United States to see how

769
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: awesome some of the contestants from all of the world

770
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: are as well. Yeah, it's it's truly a demonstration of

771
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: utity and love. As they like to say. Yeah, I agree,

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00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 1: all right, Babby, thank you so much for joining us today.

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Speaker 1: That was clean and emotional talk. I really just feel

774
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Speaker 1: like we haven't been broadcasting, but we love you so

775
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: much and we cannot wait for fans to see more

776
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 1: of you soon. Thanks for having me. Love you guys

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Speaker 1: Nice to have you back here. Yeah, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Your teeth are insanely white, sleep in it? What okay?

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Speaker 1: a lie, Saint nuts Chad, what do you think about Crystal?

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Speaker 1: Is she a true villain? Is she too? Is she

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Speaker 1: is she authentic in the way she's truly evil? Is

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Speaker 1: it all an act? I was gonna say before we

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Speaker 1: hop in, and I just want to say congrats to Ben.

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Speaker 1: I see all the stuff you've been doing with the

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Speaker 1: people in Honduras. That's really cool and yeah, for sure,

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00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: man and um also, you know, congrats to you on

841
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:43,479
Speaker 1: the Winter Games, as it's both of us. But anyway, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I you know, I'll be the first to say that

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00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,200
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847
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,320
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Speaker 1: is planned out, and she's going through all the bachelor's

849
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: steps right like, you know, doing the Miss American thing.

850
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: And then after a while, then it became less fun

851
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: after this episode two or three, because then everybody else

852
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 1: saw it, and I was like, okay, well now everybody's

853
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: playing into it. So then I immediately started like backing

854
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:18,280
Speaker 1: her up because you support somebody with the plan exactly.

855
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: I was. I was like, you know, okay, so now

856
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: everybody else is hating her, how can I be the

857
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: Devil's at kit the kit for that and so um,

858
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: you know, now I feel like, you know, she started

859
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 1: off so fake and she had this whole plan, and

860
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: then once she realized that everyone was kind of attacking her,

861
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 1: now she's kind of gotten real and everyone else it's like,

862
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 1: why are you still attacking her? She looks bad already,

863
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: like you know, she looks bad. And then like Becca, Becca,

864
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: she just kept going at it when she should just

865
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: have let her ruin herself exactly. It was like she

866
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 1: had already you know, ruined herself pretty bad, just in

867
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: the one episode alone. And Becca was like, you look

868
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: horrible like and no one likes you anymore. And I

869
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: was like, god, Becca, And if you think about it too,

870
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: what what how can twenty two year old that came

871
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: onto the show relate to you know, a twenty nine

872
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 1: year old or something where whether she is being fake

873
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,240
Speaker 1: or real, those two different people have two totally different

874
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 1: aspects of life. And at thirty you're kind of, you know,

875
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: chomping at the grip to maybe find somebody, whereas you

876
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: got Becca, who's like whatever I got, I got a

877
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: lot of years of hot in this left is really

878
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: interesting take because I hadn't thought of that, and hearing

879
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: you say that, it's like she was creating herself to

880
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: be this villain or fool or whatever word you want

881
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: to use. But when the girl's ganged up on her

882
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 1: and each person was pulling her aside to be like

883
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: you suck, it's true you did feel a little bit

884
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: like to pile on. Yeah, it was like why, what's

885
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: how is that necessary? I still will never understand what

886
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: the point is of people talking to the lead about

887
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: how terrible a person is, or sitting down in someone's

888
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: face and telling them, hey, you're you're pretty horrible, like

889
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: thank you, Like, I'm not sure why you felt the

890
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: need to tell me that. The whole world just saw it. Okay,

891
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 1: So but you you were a planned villain, right You

892
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: went in knowing that you had fun pushing buttons. No,

893
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: it was the opposite on mine. On mine, I went

894
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: in totally real. I'd never watched the show before, and

895
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,919
Speaker 1: I was actually trying to do it for real, which,

896
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 1: like you know, when they're calling, like all right, fifteen

897
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: of us are going on a date, and everyone's like yeah,

898
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, this doesn't make sense. I don't want to

899
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: go on a date with fifteen people. Like. I had

900
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: never watched it, so I was really trying to do

901
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: it the way someone in a real dating scenario would.

902
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,919
Speaker 1: I mean, I always said things that you said were like, wow,

903
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: well you know what, He's just saying it the way

904
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: it is. And it took a turn after a while

905
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: because what happened was when I saw these guys sitting

906
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: around like, you know, oh my gosh, if I can't

907
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: see her to day, I don't know what I'm gonna do.

908
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: And I was like, we're a bunch of thirty year old,

909
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: good looking dudes, like I'm pretty sure we've dated girls before,

910
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: and we don't freak out if like we don't get

911
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,479
Speaker 1: called the first day. So once I started seeing that happen,

912
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, okay, there is playing the role

913
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: and they're being fake, and I realized it looked bad

914
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: for me trying to be real, so I was like,

915
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: all right, well I'll out fake them. Then you know,

916
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: I'm already the bad guy. I can't go back now.

917
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: So you caught on and you're like, Okay, well, now

918
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: that I've been pigeonholed into the villain, I'm going to

919
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: continue with that exactly. And I tried to come back

920
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: a few times, and you know, I was working with production.

921
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't come back? Can And they're like, no, man,

922
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: what do you think will happen to Crystal? Like is

923
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: she going to be, you know, on Paradise or is

924
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: she going to be so villainy that we're like get lost?

925
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: You know, I I'm not sure what christ I can

926
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: assume she's gonna be on Paradise for sure, just because

927
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:42,919
Speaker 1: of she is kind of a big presence. Um. I

928
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: think that she'll probably get some type of you know,

929
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 1: what's it called redemption story, you know, where maybe she

930
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: is being real or she learns to take it a

931
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 1: little more real versus the whole just the voice thing

932
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 1: in general. N no matter what she says and how

933
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 1: real it is, the voice is going to ruin it, right,

934
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: that baby whispery talkie thing, Yeah you think that exaggerated

935
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: and that's her real voice? No, I don't know. I

936
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: supposedly if you watch her Instagram stories and I'm not

937
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: being mean, it just isn't her voice, but I think

938
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,280
Speaker 1: I think she uses it with Ari in a flirty way,

939
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,399
Speaker 1: and then she uses it with the girls to be like,

940
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 1: see I'm soft, I'm not. You don't need to yell

941
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: at me. So what are you think is going through

942
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 1: her head? Because I kind of can't wait to talk

943
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: to her while she's watching Oh man. I think she

944
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: at first thought like I killed it. Oh man, everyone's

945
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: gonna love me. Look at all these good things I

946
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: do I've said, so everything's perfect. And then I think

947
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: as it went on, you know, she was probably getting

948
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: calls like it's not gonna look so good for you today.

949
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 1: But you know, I don't think she's bad girl or anything.

950
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: I think she just came into it a little too calculated,

951
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: and maybe she wasn't even was real about actually looking

952
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: for a relationship. But I think she came in trying

953
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,760
Speaker 1: to portray herself in such a way and so hard

954
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 1: that it made everything about her seem fake. Ben, were

955
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: you surprised Ari kept her last night? Did you think

956
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: it was her time to go home? Uh? No, I

957
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: think it made a lot of sense actually for his behavior.

958
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: And I and I actually we talked about it in

959
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: our last segment, Chad with and you're in studio, so

960
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 1: you heard this with Viviana. Is why in the world

961
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:19,439
Speaker 1: would already go up and give Crystal attention after she's

962
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: kind of thrown her fit. And it's obvious now because

963
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: he kept here that he really cares about her, and

964
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 1: he's probably super confused now because this might have been

965
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 1: the first time that he's seen her. I don't know

966
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 1: else to say, a crazy side. And that's the one

967
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: thing that that the viewers have to understand is as

968
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: a bachelor, you're closed off the most things until it

969
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,280
Speaker 1: kind of blows up in your face. And so he

970
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: is just getting his first education and what we know

971
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: as Crystal. So for me, I think, and Chad, I

972
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: know you know Joe. Joe has asked about you a lot,

973
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: and you're able to speak on this. And I want

974
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: to take a second here and paused, because your commentary

975
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: in every podcast that you've done with us has been incredible.

976
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,680
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977
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,480
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978
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,480
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980
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00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: every piece of her body and then they started making

1058
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 1: out like two minutes into it, right, thanks, Chad. He's like,

1059
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 1: I really need a loan time to get to know

1060
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: you better. And then it was just like, I want

1061
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: to get to know you better too. Everything's amazing, let's

1062
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 1: make out. I wonder if, like how much conversation was

1063
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 1: really taken out of that scene, but if it was,

1064
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 1: that's like the way one caveat about The Bachelor. It's

1065
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 1: all like, we need to get to know each other better,

1066
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: and then it's like, I know we do. This place

1067
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 1: is so amazing. It's the best place to get to

1068
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: know each other better. Okay, man, what do you think? Honestly?

1069
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,240
Speaker 1: I mean the hotel stuff pretty nice to me. Honestly,

1070
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: it kind of separates everything. It takes you away from

1071
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,439
Speaker 1: the group, and so I'm a huge fan of any

1072
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: time you can get away. Fair enough, Okay, Frog eating

1073
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 1: Raven friend Tia. I want to know what everybody thinks.

1074
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 1: And I can't remember if they're from Kansas or where

1075
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,879
Speaker 1: she's from Arkansas, Arkansas? So what does everybody think about Tia?

1076
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:17,760
Speaker 1: Because I feel like last night she kind of emerged

1077
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: or tonight whatever as a front runner. I think she's

1078
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 1: been a front runner for a while. I think, first,

1079
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 1: you're not playing the came as. I think honestly, like

1080
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: they were just like, hey, Raven, we kind of want you,

1081
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: but like can you just clone yourself and send a

1082
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: friend I know Raven two point Oh seriously, same boys,

1083
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 1: same hair, same everything. Like literally, it was just like

1084
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,720
Speaker 1: all right. She even said she was like, I actually

1085
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: live in the city, and he was like, oh, well, um, yeah,

1086
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 1: we're gonna swamp eating frog legs. Okay, So okay, Ashley,

1087
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 1: go okay. So yeah. I think Tia was actually a

1088
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: frontrunner of the entire time, and I think that they're like,

1089
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 1: you know what, we really like the Raven caricature from

1090
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: last season, So let's just do it. Let's ask even

1091
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 1: if she has any friends like her, Ben, what do

1092
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 1: you think of Tia? I have a thousand things to

1093
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: say about this date, so I'm gonna take my time

1094
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: here and talk about it. Tia has been a front

1095
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: runner for me since the beginning. I think Tia is, uh,

1096
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: it's just herself. I think she's pretty, she's confident, so

1097
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: I always thought, Okay, in this group of women, she

1098
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: stands above the rest. I love this day, and let

1099
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: me tell you why. For one second, I love alligators.

1100
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: It is my favorite thing in the world. I absolutely,

1101
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not kidding you. I'm a chest with alligators.

1102
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: When I see an alligator, I get giddy, I get excited,

1103
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 1: and I don't get giddy and excited very often in

1104
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 1: life right now, And so is this date to me

1105
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: might have been and I have this in my notes

1106
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: in the episode, this date is one of my favorite

1107
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: dates ever done on The Bachelor because here's and here's

1108
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: my theory behind it, and we'll move on. Is this

1109
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: is a type of date. It looked like to me

1110
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: that is an experience that you could do in your

1111
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 1: real life, but it would be one that you would

1112
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: remember forever. And I just felt like this was one

1113
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: that I could relate with. Is I would enjoy it

1114
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 1: so much. I would eat frog legs. I would go

1115
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: out and eat legs. Um, this is a really cool

1116
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 1: day for me. And so I thought from I really

1117
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 1: enjoyed watching Tea on this day because she fit in well,

1118
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 1: so are obviously knew what he was doing, and I

1119
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: got I got one thing to say on her too,

1120
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: because I don't know a whole lot about Tia. I've

1121
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: been kind of zoning out this season. But the one

1122
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: thing that I noticed on this last episode and the

1123
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 1: one thing that I always noticed that kind of gives

1124
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 1: you a clue to what the people are really thinking

1125
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: when somebody says I think I'm falling in love with

1126
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: you and they're not looking at the person when they

1127
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: say that. If you notice, they'll immediately like go hug

1128
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 1: their chest and put their head down. What's the first

1129
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: thing you do when you really are falling in love

1130
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: with someone? You look at that person's eyes right to

1131
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 1: see what they're thinking. So I got a little bit

1132
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 1: of you know, fraud out of that. She was saying it,

1133
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 1: but she really wasn't quite there. Yeah, like that, this

1134
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: is my move, it's my time. We didn't even talk

1135
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 1: about the fire. She said, I love you when we five, Like,

1136
00:58:58,080 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 1: is that not the one thing you do if you're

1137
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 1: falling in of someone? You want to see the way

1138
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: they looked at She was so nervous about it that

1139
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 1: she's like, I can't look at you. I don't think

1140
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: you're actually I don't know. I don't know about that one. Okay,

1141
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 1: next question, Okay, so my last two questions. I love

1142
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: everybody's thoughts quickly. I call her Yale, I don't know

1143
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: her name, but she's very smart. Yale cne. And then

1144
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 1: Chelsea the mom. I want to know each of your

1145
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 1: thoughts on her. I don't even know sa which want

1146
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: to see. Yeah, she's Yale, she went Did you watch

1147
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 1: the episode where they went to Taho she went parasailing

1148
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 1: and Taho? No, I missed that part. Okay, Well, I

1149
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 1: like Cienne and I actually like Chelsea. Chelsea want to turnaround.

1150
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 1: First couple of episodes, first two episodes, we definitely thought

1151
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 1: she was gonna be a villain. Definitely not a villain

1152
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 1: um and Cenne is. Yeah, she's great. She seems almost

1153
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: too smart for him. I hate saying things like that.

1154
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 1: I don't like saying things like that. I mean, but

1155
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: she she's smart, she's got a pleasant personality, She's beautiful.

1156
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 1: I see nothing wrong with Cenne yet right, never and

1157
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 1: I hopefully, I mean, like everything's right. Yeah, she just

1158
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 1: seems a good catch. Amy you want a headline? Yea,

1159
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 1: If Sienna is a bachelor, I would seriously consider going

1160
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 1: back on tell us more, tell us more. What do

1161
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 1: you like about? I mean, how what do you not

1162
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 1: like about Cna? I mean, honestly, I think we can

1163
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 1: all agree that she is beautiful, she's so smart. She

1164
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 1: has kind of stayed under the radar when it comes

1165
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 1: to the drama. This season, but yet she's engaged herself

1166
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 1: enough into the commentary to know that she actually has

1167
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 1: an opinion. I think watching CN for me is somebody

1168
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying that is a great partner for anybody in life.

1169
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 1: As she is, she is going to be a leader

1170
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 1: in the house. She's going to be able to to

1171
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: support her partners, They're gonna be able to work together,

1172
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 1: and she's gonna be able to bounce. Like. The cool

1173
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: part about that I think Ari isn't taking advantage of

1174
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 1: in this is I feel like she's full of so

1175
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 1: much wisdom that she could really help him along this experience.

1176
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 1: So I have always been a sne fan. I am

1177
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 1: just becoming even more of a CN fan over the

1178
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. Ben. You know you wouldn't have

1179
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: to go on her season at the Bachelor. You could

1180
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: just did her and roll. Yeah? Would you? Would you

1181
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 1: ask her out? Uh? You know? I would not, And

1182
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 1: I'll slide them for you. Man, I got this. You'd

1183
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 1: go on her episode her show, she's the bachelortte, but

1184
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 1: you don't. You wouldn't ask her out? No, I mean

1185
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: I would. I was just trying to help you out, Amy.

1186
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: So here's the thing. Yeah, I guess I obviously would

1187
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 1: ask her out. She she's great. Uh, she has caught

1188
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 1: my interest since the beginning. I think she's caught a

1189
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 1: lot of people's interest. Would I ask her? Yeah, that

1190
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say no, of course I would. But I'm

1191
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 1: just saying that if she was a bachelotte as much

1192
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 1: I would never want to do the Bachelor or Bachelor,

1193
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 1: I would say, Okay, that would make me tempt I

1194
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 1: would be tempted to think about it because she's that great. Wow, wow,

1195
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 1: I love your love. She's gonna know now, Yeah, I

1196
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 1: don't know who you know, We don't know spoilers, but

1197
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: if she doesn't win, I would expect it that you'll

1198
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 1: hear from her in your d N. Hey, I'll follow

1199
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 1: on the storte for this podcast any day. Well, ben, Um,

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1201
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Speaker 1: code famous. Speaking of famous, before we say goodbye to you, Chad,

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Speaker 1: you have literally been one of the most famous villains

1229
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Speaker 1: ever on the Bachelor franchise. And before you go, I

1230
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 1: have one last question to ask you after watching this season.

1231
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 1: You know, I know the likes of the Olivia Treaties

1232
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 1: of the World and and Crystal have both spoken out

1233
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 1: against Bully, especially coming from this franchise. I want to

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Speaker 1: hear one your thoughts on that and to you know,

1235
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Speaker 1: the common phrase as we watched this and I know

1236
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 1: I've always said it and I want to know if

1237
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 1: I'm right or wrong is that, you know, sometimes our

1238
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 1: behavior on the show can we can learn from it

1239
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 1: when we watch it back. Did you learn anything from

1240
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 1: being on the Bachelorette? And then we're gonna say good

1241
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 1: bye to you. Absolutely, you know. And the one good

1242
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 1: thing that I have had is I had the opportunity

1243
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 1: on both Famously Single on E and Celebrity Big Brother

1244
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 1: UK to give myself a redemption. Unfortunately, I don't think

1245
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 1: many people in America saw celebrity Big Brother UK, so

1246
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 1: I still hold my villain to edit. But yeah, I

1247
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 1: think it does teach you a few things about yourself obviously,

1248
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 1: you know, maybe don't lash out at people, or even

1249
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 1: if you don't feel like lashing out, and maybe don't

1250
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 1: play the guy lashing out because people will assume that

1251
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 1: you are that person in real life, do you Okay?

1252
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 1: So you're hoping now if you were to give Crystal

1253
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 1: any advice, because this is your moment, she's gonna listen

1254
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 1: to the podcast. I promised, um, what would your advice

1255
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 1: be for her now moving out of this onto this

1256
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 1: show for the next couple of weeks? Moving out of

1257
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 1: the show? I was, I mean, you mean, like on

1258
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 1: the show or dealing with like hate off. I don't

1259
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 1: think for her on the show, but when she leaves

1260
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 1: the show, what do you think? How would you deal

1261
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 1: with it? You know, I think the number one thing

1262
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 1: to do is not read your comments. Um. You know,

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Speaker 1: everybody gets so wrapped up in Instagram and Twitter and

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Speaker 1: of the day, it doesn't matter what people say, that's

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Speaker 1: not affecting your life. And the only thing that can

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Speaker 1: affect your life is if you allow the things that

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Speaker 1: they say to change the way you think of yourself.

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Speaker 1: So don't read into it and just keep doing what

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Speaker 1: you always do day to day. That's right, that's right. Well, hey, Chad,

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Speaker 1: we appreciate you, man. And in the famous words of

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Speaker 1: Crystal Uh, let me read this quote directly as she

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Speaker 1: said last nights, these girls don't operate at my level.

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Speaker 1: I'm done. That was glitter. We'll talk to that. Hey.

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Speaker 1: I want to let you guys know I'll be doing

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Speaker 1: on Instagram live during the show at eight o'clock Pacific

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Speaker 1: time on Monday night. So I'm just gonna give a

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Speaker 1: little commentary live, So thanks for having me. I'll be

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Speaker 1: tuning in. Glad you plugged that because now I have

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Speaker 1: a new favorite thing. We'll see how it goes, all right, guys,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for listening to the Almost Famous podcast.

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Speaker 1: We love you so much, we love our sponsors, and

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Speaker 1: we love feedback. So continue to tweet at US, review

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Speaker 1: us on iTunes and we'll see you next week. Or

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk more about the Bachelor Winter Games. That's right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be here. As are excited. You're gonna see

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Speaker 1: a little bit of us on TV. I don't think

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Speaker 1: either of us are that nervous about it. Maybe we

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Speaker 1: should be. That might be a problem. I might be

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Speaker 1: unaware of what's to come. That's a good point. We

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Speaker 1: want to thank our producer Amy for all the time

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Speaker 1: that she spends on this podcast. Want to thank Easton

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Speaker 1: who's in studio today helping the sound out with all

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Speaker 1: this because I'm sick and so he's probably moving the

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Speaker 1: levels all around to make sure this works for us. Ashley,

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Speaker 1: as always, you're great. Until next week, We'll miss you

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Speaker 1: all um, but hey, I'm excited to have a little break.

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Speaker 1: I've been Ashley. See you. Follow the Benn and Ashley

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Speaker 1: I Almost Famous podcasts on I Heart Radio or subscribe

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