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Speaker 1: start with two words, what if three weeks from tonight,
Speaker 1: Ron Wolfley, the two thousand and twenty one NFL Draft
Speaker 1: will commence in Cleveland. You're gonna go socratic, Paul. So
Speaker 1: every single sentence basically starts with the words, what if,
Speaker 1: Right about now, as we near mid April, what if
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray broke the huddle this season? Ron Wolfley an
Speaker 1: eleven personnel and at one receiver on the outside is
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins. And at the other receiver at the other
Speaker 1: side outside aj Green, and in the slot Christian Kirk. Okay,
Speaker 1: check that box. Did I mention it's eleven personnel? Because
Speaker 1: at tight end? What if it was Kyle Pitts, the
Speaker 1: rookie Yata, Florida. How about that, PAULI? Eleven personnel right there,
Speaker 1: one back, one tight end, three wide receivers, and it
Speaker 1: was Kyle Pitts. You know what, I don't like that, Paul.
Speaker 1: I don't like that eleven personnel with Kyle Pitts at
Speaker 1: tight end. And the reason why I don't like it
Speaker 1: is he's not a stud tight end. It's not a
Speaker 1: guy that's gonna move somebody off the ball. Now, if
Speaker 1: you're talking George Kittle, Now, all of a sudden, you
Speaker 1: got a guy like George Kittle that can obviously catch
Speaker 1: the ball, make plays down the field, but also as
Speaker 1: an excellent blocker. Eleven personnel, Maybe you're talking twelve personnel, Polly,
Speaker 1: one back, two tight ends with Kyle Pitts as one
Speaker 1: of those tight ends. Maybe the move tight end? Is
Speaker 1: that what you're talking about, Polly? No, And I'm not
Speaker 1: the one talking. See, I'm not the one who's talking
Speaker 1: about it here on the Big Red Rage presented by
Speaker 1: santan Ford and go. We are Santan Ford, my guy
Speaker 1: Peter Schreger, who you tried to poach two years ago
Speaker 1: as your guy Peter Schreger in the lobby of that
Speaker 1: hotel I wrote, did not my guy Peter Schreger, who
Speaker 1: you honed in on our conversation while we're having some
Speaker 1: coffee that Sunday morning. He's the one proposing this trade.
Speaker 1: We'll get into it a little bit later. Let's just
Speaker 1: say he's saying that Steve Kim will join the rest
Speaker 1: of the division and trade away future first round picks
Speaker 1: to make this happen and move up to number seven,
Speaker 1: a trade with a Lion. So that's that's fall. Wait
Speaker 1: a minute, ball, are you talking about a mock draft?
Speaker 1: You're talking about a mock draft here. First of all,
Speaker 1: it's just without trades. Just think about it right now.
Speaker 1: How accurate our mock drafts without trades. Now we're gonna
Speaker 1: go ahead and we're gonna throw in the trade possibility.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you asked. Because VP of Media Relations Mark Dalton,
Speaker 1: I believe he has crunched the numbers historically over the
Speaker 1: last couple of decades and last conversation with Mark, I
Speaker 1: believe the figure was two point seven picks per thirty
Speaker 1: two in the first round typically are correct. Think about that.
Speaker 1: So in the first round we got somebody out there
Speaker 1: doing four round mocks. It's a low percentage, although this
Speaker 1: year with the cork about an exercise and futility ball. Okay,
Speaker 1: so what about this a little bit later here in
Speaker 1: the Big Red Rage. Not only do we have Frank
Speaker 1: Sanders coming our way, former Cardinals receiving great who always
Speaker 1: brings some outstanding analysis, we had to book him again.
Speaker 1: Well done, good get by our Jim almahundro. But we're
Speaker 1: gonna hear from Ron Wolfley from the Larry Fitzgerald Update desk.
Speaker 1: Are we not wolf You have something for us? You
Speaker 1: have a headline that's ready to be made here on
Speaker 1: the Big Red Rage. I have no idea what you're
Speaker 1: talking about, but I will tell you right now if
Speaker 1: you get if you go ahead and move up, you
Speaker 1: get Kyle Pitts, you might as well just go ten personnel.
Speaker 1: Isn't that what you're in already? Yeah? Pretty much you're right,
Speaker 1: you're well, you know, Paulie, I'm just saying, let's go,
Speaker 1: here we go. You lost Dan Arnold, who now is
Speaker 1: going to be catching passes from Sam Darnold. So Sam
Speaker 1: Darnold to Dan Arnold is what's going on in Carolina?
Speaker 1: Not so. But what we have here are is this
Speaker 1: story on CBS sports dot com and the headline screams
Speaker 1: top remaining NFL free agents at each position, and it
Speaker 1: continues with a subheadline James Connor, Larry Fitzgerald headblind the
Speaker 1: big names left. Really we're just getting rolling on the
Speaker 1: Big Red Rage presented by satan Ford in Gilbert. Each
Speaker 1: team of the time out a minute four to go
Speaker 1: in a tie game here overtime thirty four piece, gotta
Speaker 1: get a stop here thirty fourteen playclock at one snapped
Speaker 1: to Wilson quick for over the middle, picked off, It's
Speaker 1: intercepted at the forty yard line. Baiah Simmons has it
Speaker 1: running far side of the forty five platter bounds at
Speaker 1: the fifty yard line. Fifty seven seconds LA Cardinals have
Speaker 1: the ball man and time out. The Rooky made a play.
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons is right there with the sweeth hands want
Speaker 1: to catch by Isaiah Simmons. Yeah, that's no doubt the
Speaker 1: play of his rookie year, although he made plays in
Speaker 1: both games against the Seahawks. Obviously that interception that was
Speaker 1: critical and overtime a big time win by the Cardinals
Speaker 1: in Week seven, thirty seven thirty four game where they
Speaker 1: trailed ten nothing twenty seven fourteen thirty four to twenty four,
Speaker 1: they come back to beat Seattle. And then the Week
Speaker 1: eleven loss at the Seahawks, that was a game. Remember Wolf,
Speaker 1: he had a team high ten tackles and a sack.
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons the Cardinals first round pick a year ago.
Speaker 1: It is the Big Red Rage presented by Satan four
Speaker 1: and Gilbert. We are santan Ford and we are three
Speaker 1: weeks away from the NFL Draft. That Cardinals and Niners
Speaker 1: the only teams in the division, Wolf with first round
Speaker 1: picks at their disposal right now. Yeah, no doubt, Pollie,
Speaker 1: And just listening to you talk about the draft, it
Speaker 1: does make me think of Isaiah Simmons. It makes me
Speaker 1: think of his rookie year. Of course last year and
Speaker 1: you know, Polly, going into that season, I just wanted
Speaker 1: to see from Isaiah Simmons. That he was a willing participant,
Speaker 1: a guy that would take his face and stick it
Speaker 1: right into the fire. I talked about this over and
Speaker 1: over and over again. Does he have the physicality we knew?
Speaker 1: He's got all the playmaking talent, all the playmaking skills
Speaker 1: you could possibly want from a guy that is kind
Speaker 1: of a tweener linebacker himself. A strong safety hybrid if
Speaker 1: you will, that you can actually stick in the box.
Speaker 1: But man, what about his physicality? And I can tell
Speaker 1: you right now that was a pleasant surprise to me.
Speaker 1: A mild surprise, but a pleasant surprise. Isaiah Simmons has
Speaker 1: got no problem whatsoever sticking his face into the fan.
Speaker 1: And it's no surprise that Devandre Campbell is still unsigned
Speaker 1: in free agency. That is Isaiah simmons position this year,
Speaker 1: right alongside Jordan Hicks. Not to say vance Joseph won't
Speaker 1: continue to use them in a variety of roles and
Speaker 1: that position flexibility. So okay, we have Isaiah Simmons. Real quick, wolf,
Speaker 1: give me a couple of thumbnails before we get to
Speaker 1: Frank Sanders on some of the other rookies the Cardinals
Speaker 1: came away with in last year's draft. For example, an
Speaker 1: order of selection round three, Josh Jones. What do you
Speaker 1: make of that selection? Yeah, that's great, Paully. Listen, Josh Jones.
Speaker 1: Everybody was raving about the fact that Arizona Cardinals got
Speaker 1: Josh Jones in the third round, and that, once again
Speaker 1: was just from a talent perspective. Do I think this
Speaker 1: guy is going to be a starter at some point
Speaker 1: in time? I do. Do I think it's going to
Speaker 1: be this year? I don't, Polly, I don't. I do
Speaker 1: think they're going to line them up at right guard.
Speaker 1: They're going to give him the opportunity to go out
Speaker 1: there get some raps at tackle as well behind Alvin Beecham.
Speaker 1: But I think this is a perfect situation for any
Speaker 1: offensive lineman that's hyper talented the way that Josh Jones is,
Speaker 1: but has got to ease his way into the NFL game.
Speaker 1: And I think that's exactly what's going to happen with
Speaker 1: Josh Jones. And I think it's going to benefit him
Speaker 1: greatly to be able to watch a guy like Calvin
Speaker 1: Beecham go about his business, go about his job. Maybe
Speaker 1: Josh Jones is going to get some reps inside at guard.
Speaker 1: I know the Arizona Cardinals have talked about that from
Speaker 1: time to time, lining him up there, letting him compete
Speaker 1: for that open position, and we'll see where that goes.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Polly, I think for the most part, Josh
Speaker 1: Jones is still a question mark. Maybe just maybe one
Speaker 1: of the reasons they haven't been all that aggressive in
Speaker 1: free agency when it comes to tight end is because
Speaker 1: Josh Jones could be that sixth offensive lineman slash tight
Speaker 1: end in some obvious rundown situations. They did that a
Speaker 1: few times last year. I wonder if they liked it.
Speaker 1: We know that he is upside, I mean the stat
Speaker 1: I remember US Pro Football Focus had him rated as
Speaker 1: the fourteenth best player in the entire draft and he
Speaker 1: went in Round three. So okay, we'll see whether that
Speaker 1: comes to fruition this year. I'm with you will probably
Speaker 1: not maybe a year three for Josh Jones, but I
Speaker 1: think they do. You find rolls from What about the
Speaker 1: two defensive linemen in round four, Lucky fo two and
Speaker 1: Rochard Lawrence. Would you make of those guys? Both tell
Speaker 1: injuries at times. No, Honestly, Polly, I think Lucky Foe
Speaker 1: two and Richard Lawrence was really set back because of
Speaker 1: the injury situation. There's no doubt about that. Polly. He
Speaker 1: really his growth was stunted. But Lucky Foe two is
Speaker 1: a guy that I really think he flashed from time
Speaker 1: to time. You're talking about a rookie once again easing
Speaker 1: his way into the National Football League. Paul would just
Speaker 1: say playing in the National Football League is an easy
Speaker 1: thing to do. It is not, especially when you're a
Speaker 1: defensive lineman and you're playing against the very best offensive
Speaker 1: lineman the football universe has to off for. I think
Speaker 1: Lucky Foe too made a lot of strides last year.
Speaker 1: But once again, here's a guy that I think is
Speaker 1: going to get better this year and he's going to
Speaker 1: contribute with more snaps in that rotation defensively. Richard Lawrence,
Speaker 1: that's more of a question mark. Yeah, well, then you
Speaker 1: had Evan Weaver and obviously spend most of the year
Speaker 1: on the practice squad. Eno Benjamin same deal for the
Speaker 1: most part, not necessarily practice squad, but he didn't dress
Speaker 1: on game day. We'll talk a little bit later in
Speaker 1: this show about where the Cardinals are running back, but
Speaker 1: what about free agency in general. You know, we had
Speaker 1: this discussion on Cardinals Underground, the podcast and the consensus
Speaker 1: was the Cardinals are done in free agency for right now.
Speaker 1: Between now in the draft, they're done in free agency,
Speaker 1: and then based on what comes to be in the draft,
Speaker 1: then maybe they target a remaining free agent or two
Speaker 1: at the most. But when you have tight ends out there,
Speaker 1: guys like Tyler Effort, when you have corners out there Wolf,
Speaker 1: when you have some veteran running backs out there, is
Speaker 1: there anybody you think intensy enough, there might be a
Speaker 1: time time move before the draft. I would say at
Speaker 1: the running back position right now, he's pretty much a
Speaker 1: draft like every position, I think they need to going
Speaker 1: into the draft, and that's really something that I think
Speaker 1: you want to do as a general manager, address your
Speaker 1: need so you don't go in there desperate on draft
Speaker 1: day to get a guy and suddenly you start over
Speaker 1: drafting somebody they want to avoid that like the plague.
Speaker 1: Maybe a veteran running back Polly bringing him in. I
Speaker 1: think that's the one move out there via free agency.
Speaker 1: We might see what does Frank Sanders see and is
Speaker 1: crystal football? If you will? What about the Cardinals big
Speaker 1: moves at receiver, a position he played? What about the
Speaker 1: Cardinals big move at corner and maybe another one to
Speaker 1: come in the draft, a position he used to compete against.
Speaker 1: Frank Sanders former Cardinals. Great next on the big red
Speaker 1: rage at the parting hard line in front of Daryl Breen.
Speaker 1: Great effort by Frank Sanders. Lumber looks. Lumber throws to
Speaker 1: the far side. Sanders banks the Cats. Frank Sanders, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what, he's everything. He's made all the big plays.
Speaker 1: Plumber back to throw again. He's gonna wind up. He's
Speaker 1: gonna go deep far side of the field. Sanders thanks
Speaker 1: the Cats at scores Plumber and five stunt drop and
Speaker 1: he think cutch by Sanders, touchdown Cardinals. Lumber rolling right,
Speaker 1: gonna fire to the right code by Sanders, cuckdown Cardinals.
Speaker 1: It's a four yard touckdown and the Cardinals in the
Speaker 1: end it sounds like a sixteen year old day pass.
Speaker 1: That's outstanding. I mean, right there with the highlights themselves
Speaker 1: was the voice of the Cardinals day pass. There was
Speaker 1: some Frank Sanders highlights that are Jim Alma Hunter pulled
Speaker 1: out of his vast archives as we say, welcome into
Speaker 1: the former Cardinals receiving great round two pick nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 1: Ron Wolf Lee forty seventh overall on Auburn. I think
Speaker 1: of Frank Sanders. I think of a guy who made
Speaker 1: the money catches. I think of yards after catch. I
Speaker 1: think of a real dual sport baseball player in college,
Speaker 1: unlike you Wolf alledgulate in high school, in the whole
Speaker 1: all state thing, right, which has never been three ti hi,
Speaker 1: I think of Frank Sanders and now we couldn't wait
Speaker 1: till next next month's Carginals charity golf tournament for all
Speaker 1: the alums. We got to talk ball with Frank Sanders. Now, Frank,
Speaker 1: how are we doing? Frank Gaye, Hey, brothers, that y'all doing.
Speaker 1: It's good, Frankie. Honestly, how are you doing through this
Speaker 1: whole pandemic thing? Man? Are you in the family? Okay, Man,
Speaker 1: I didn't know what that is. We have been really
Speaker 1: blessed and fortunate. Not that anybody else who has gone
Speaker 1: through haven't been less and pretty fortunate, but we've been
Speaker 1: pretty pretty blessed. Man in regards to not really getting it,
Speaker 1: not getting sick. We haven't had any went on ventilators
Speaker 1: or nothing like that, so we've been pretty good for
Speaker 1: the most part. I've already taken my second shot. I
Speaker 1: got three daughters one eighteen seventeen and thirteen and eighteen
Speaker 1: seventeen is coming up for the their opportunity. So we're
Speaker 1: looking forward to it. And we've been pretty pretty pretty
Speaker 1: fortunate in a lot of ways because there's a lot
Speaker 1: of people that's been hurt by that. Great to hear break. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's outstanding, no doubt it. And your social distancing plan
Speaker 1: of a lot of golf that that doesn't hurt either, right, Frank,
Speaker 1: I'm guessing right. I just want to say one of
Speaker 1: the things I can give you know, the Governor big
Speaker 1: hug for is not putting golf on restrictions and that
Speaker 1: was definitely in the list real can do, you know,
Speaker 1: a social differing So I'm gonna give Big Does a
Speaker 1: big hug for that because I really appreciated that. So
Speaker 1: what do you view made of the Cardinals offseason so far?
Speaker 1: And let's just start with a headliner, J J. Watt
Speaker 1: And not only what he's done obviously on the field
Speaker 1: and what he did last season, but when the decision
Speaker 1: makers cite his energy and his intensity and his leadership,
Speaker 1: how you tell us you've been on the inside of
Speaker 1: those locker rooms? How big a deal is that? You
Speaker 1: know what you know just first question. I felt like
Speaker 1: Fantasy football all over again. I just felt like we
Speaker 1: sat around a round table and we tried to figure out,
Speaker 1: you know, who we could get, what names we could
Speaker 1: bring to the table. And if they had, you know,
Speaker 1: just they brought some experience and some energy into the
Speaker 1: locker room, what names could we get and bring in?
Speaker 1: And I mean I think the Cardinals have done an
Speaker 1: exceptional job and going out and getting some just not
Speaker 1: some name guys, but some guys that still got some
Speaker 1: gas in the tank and guys that can you know,
Speaker 1: that can that can really change? Uh, They're not only
Speaker 1: their fate, but they can change the fate of the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: You know, Frankie wide receivers, No wide receivers. So want
Speaker 1: me to stay right there? Aj Green? How about Aj Green?
Speaker 1: Your thoughts on him becoming an Arizona Cardinal this offseason?
Speaker 1: I mean, it's again, it blows my mind. I just
Speaker 1: I would have never saw that coming. I never saw
Speaker 1: johanre Hopkins being here. I never saw JJ Watt here. Um,
Speaker 1: I just I can't imagine how excited he has to
Speaker 1: be in transition to come to a team what he
Speaker 1: knows they're going to throw the rock. He's not. He's
Speaker 1: not solo by himself out there as the as the
Speaker 1: long you know, a long ranger out there as the
Speaker 1: number one guy um in regards to on on on
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati's offense. But just to have to have a
Speaker 1: j Green here to watch what his skill set is.
Speaker 1: He can get in out of cut. He still has
Speaker 1: some burst to him. You know, he can make all
Speaker 1: the catches, he runs all the routes. He just haven't
Speaker 1: been on a good team where he can be truly,
Speaker 1: truly you know, used and explode as explosive as he can.
Speaker 1: Um I just again, Frank, can you put into words
Speaker 1: for anybody listening right now what it means to have
Speaker 1: a a really good wide receiver there, I say, a
Speaker 1: great wide receiver on the opposite side of the field
Speaker 1: from you. What kind of impact does that typically have
Speaker 1: on game day? Yeah, and it gives you, It gives
Speaker 1: you to have somebody else on the other side, you know,
Speaker 1: that's got that same level of energy, talent, confidence, and
Speaker 1: that dog in him. Look, he just makes it makes
Speaker 1: your job that much easier because you know, the defensive
Speaker 1: coordinator cannot w he cannot. He has to give you
Speaker 1: one on one with this guy that they're paying seven
Speaker 1: to twelve million dollars. And they told me that this
Speaker 1: week in practice. He was good. I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: I'm about to get him about. Give him some popcorn
Speaker 1: right now because I'm about to eat to save about
Speaker 1: your blood. That's how you start thinking as a receiver,
Speaker 1: because you know that's a one on one situation and
Speaker 1: to have because you got somebody on the other side.
Speaker 1: I was blessed to have Rob Moore and David Boston
Speaker 1: on the side of me, and both of those guys
Speaker 1: were thousand plus shard receivers and they just made my
Speaker 1: job that much easier. Well. J. J. Watt was asked
Speaker 1: how much he felt like he had left in the tank,
Speaker 1: and he spent the press conference. He was effusive. He
Speaker 1: had a lot to say in every single question and
Speaker 1: answer right. But then when he was asked that question,
Speaker 1: he paused and he looked the interviewee right in the
Speaker 1: eye and he said, you know what, A lot, A
Speaker 1: whole lot, And that's all he said about that one. A. J.
Speaker 1: Green was asked how much he feels he has left. Man,
Speaker 1: I feel like I have a lot left in the tanking.
Speaker 1: You know, I still feel feel young, Blakes feel young.
Speaker 1: You know. Last year was a difficult year for me
Speaker 1: playing with these different quarterbacks coming off the entry. But
Speaker 1: you know, I wouldn't change that for anything in the world.
Speaker 1: I think that that made me a better person, you know,
Speaker 1: on the field, mentally stronger. But I know I feel
Speaker 1: like I got a lot more years left in me.
Speaker 1: So Frank, let me ask you this. You know, here
Speaker 1: he is, he's in his thirties. He obviously doesn't have
Speaker 1: the blazing speed he had and you know it's early
Speaker 1: twenty easy. How does that transition though, with all the
Speaker 1: experience and aj Green now at this point in his career,
Speaker 1: is he a different receiver automatically? What do you expect?
Speaker 1: You know, I think that the experience in itself slows
Speaker 1: the game down, the game plan. He doesn't have to,
Speaker 1: you know, cram to try to figure out what he's doing.
Speaker 1: He understands his position. He can breathe a lot easier
Speaker 1: while he's playing the game. That allows him to relax more.
Speaker 1: You don't have to have blazing speed in the NFL.
Speaker 1: You just have to have You have to You have
Speaker 1: to know how to getting out your cuts and how
Speaker 1: to set up how to set up the defense or
Speaker 1: the defender that allows you to have that window. What
Speaker 1: a quarterback can make the throw um, so to mean,
Speaker 1: what he what he has in the tank. Remember, guys,
Speaker 1: these are guys that have been on mostly losing teams,
Speaker 1: so they don't they haven't they haven't seen the depth
Speaker 1: of the playoffs. They haven't had to go out and
Speaker 1: really and really play seventy play games all the time.
Speaker 1: Defensively J J. Watts. I do because they were out
Speaker 1: there a lot. But most of these guys haven't seen
Speaker 1: long term seasons. They've been seventeen weeks and done. They
Speaker 1: have not seen that. So they got some gas in
Speaker 1: the tank. And I believe that when they said that
Speaker 1: because they changing a new environment. Something about it makes
Speaker 1: you feel we're fresh and makes you feel like you've
Speaker 1: got comfortable to do improve And when you got something
Speaker 1: to prove, you're gonna lose probably about three to seven pounds.
Speaker 1: You're gonna do a little bit more. You're gonna do
Speaker 1: the run, will flee while eggs in the morning with milk.
Speaker 1: It's just a little bit of that stuff. You'll do,
Speaker 1: extra crunch, extra set up because when you got something
Speaker 1: to prove, you got something to prove, and you definitely
Speaker 1: want to hate us to eat all of that words
Speaker 1: that they just don't just don't put the words weight
Speaker 1: loss and Ron Wolfley in the same sense. It's so funny, though, Frankie,
Speaker 1: to listen to you talk about this, because you know
Speaker 1: what it was like. You went to the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 1: You went there after spending your vast career here with
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. And I did the same thing. I
Speaker 1: went to the Cleveland Browns, and I'll never forget. It
Speaker 1: was like hitting the reset button all over again. It
Speaker 1: was like walking in for the first time into that
Speaker 1: locker room. Okay, I'm gonna prove it to you. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna prove it to you. Get oh, and especially you,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna prove it to right. I mean, it can
Speaker 1: be a refresh button for a player, can it. It
Speaker 1: really is. When I got to when I got to
Speaker 1: the Ravens, Chris mccaus was there, and you know, I
Speaker 1: thought to myself, he was supposed we wanted the best
Speaker 1: cornerback in the country. Well, we're about to find out.
Speaker 1: And every day and it's just the Ravens defense that
Speaker 1: they've been talking about. Right, Ed reads, I'm about to
Speaker 1: murder Christma Callen. I'm just I'm just get This is
Speaker 1: the work day for me every day because I know
Speaker 1: how we practice here trying to win games. They didn't
Speaker 1: practice anywhere close to that level because they were winners
Speaker 1: and they knew it. So to me how it's trying
Speaker 1: to prove that I'm a winner too. I'm here to
Speaker 1: add to the table. So I definitely understand you're wrong,
Speaker 1: because you know what it is, man. You always there's
Speaker 1: something special about the game and it's called competition. And
Speaker 1: competition is supposed to make you better. And if it
Speaker 1: doesn't make you better, it's going to expose that you
Speaker 1: you that dude or you're not that dude. And when
Speaker 1: you get new, when you get a chance to go
Speaker 1: to a new place and you remember who you were
Speaker 1: and they brought you in to prove are you that dude?
Speaker 1: Or where your hatpin? And I think these guys got
Speaker 1: so much to prove that they are that dude, and
Speaker 1: they and they want to bring they want to bring
Speaker 1: something to the table. Man, It's all about you. Frank Sanders,
Speaker 1: Presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert here on the Big
Speaker 1: Red Rage. Right, you mentioned cornerback. How about thirty year
Speaker 1: old Patrick Peterson moving on thirty year old Malcolm Butler
Speaker 1: coming in. It'll be thirty one this season, Malcolm Butler says,
Speaker 1: Frankie's coming off his best season period in the NFL.
Speaker 1: What do you think about the Cardinals filming the Pat
Speaker 1: p Void with Malcolm Butler? You know, I think that
Speaker 1: you know that Pat Pee had a lot on his shoulders.
Speaker 1: I mean he earned it. He earned it when the
Speaker 1: first couple of years that he was here, he was
Speaker 1: absolutely STU across the board, and then a couple of
Speaker 1: things happened. I don't know what, you know, his his
Speaker 1: relationship or his play on the field wasn't as a
Speaker 1: spectacle as it needed to be. I talked to Pat
Speaker 1: p probably, I played golf with him, probably about two
Speaker 1: weeks ago, of course, but there was a change that
Speaker 1: needed to happen. Whether it was with the organization on him,
Speaker 1: but it was a change that need to happen. So
Speaker 1: and that's a good thing. Sometimes sometimes you get into
Speaker 1: places and you know you need those changes. We're placing
Speaker 1: them with Malcolm Butler. We said, this earlier experience sometimes
Speaker 1: makes a big difference. Malcolm Butler is a you know,
Speaker 1: world champ, he's a Super Bowl champ, and he's got
Speaker 1: some he's got some, he's got some learned, he's learned
Speaker 1: a lot how to play the game, how to get
Speaker 1: ready for Sunday competition, and sometimes having that experience. Um,
Speaker 1: in that position, you're just removing a name, but your
Speaker 1: brain experienced. So in that in that, in that regards,
Speaker 1: everyone has to take ownership. How about this here, maybe
Speaker 1: some guys were slacking because we had Pat P or
Speaker 1: Patrick pat we calling pat P pat P on the
Speaker 1: other side. Maybe they was giving them too much room,
Speaker 1: maybe they was taking maybe they was guts and gambling
Speaker 1: and they wasn't protective because that's Pat P. Well you
Speaker 1: get a Malcolm Butler everyone and now has to take
Speaker 1: ownership of the position and that comes you know, that's
Speaker 1: that's a good thing because now our defense has to actually,
Speaker 1: you know, some of these guys got to take ownership
Speaker 1: of what happened last year and uh and then actually
Speaker 1: and actually step up some table how to goal on
Speaker 1: the golf course? You versus Pat By the way, did
Speaker 1: you lighten his vikings contract a little bit, Frank, I
Speaker 1: feel into the pocket a little bit, but he didn't
Speaker 1: stay long. He went out and worked out that morning
Speaker 1: and then we called him. He came in and his
Speaker 1: back was locked up. He said he had been training
Speaker 1: with a weight vest on and uh it showed on
Speaker 1: his first swing. I played with Patrick at his at
Speaker 1: his at his touches of a couple of times up
Speaker 1: at the rim, and uh love. The guy can play golf.
Speaker 1: He's a flat out two handicap, without a doubt. But
Speaker 1: the other day he just he played like he was
Speaker 1: a twelve. And I needed all that money, and he
Speaker 1: and he and he supposedly taught himself off YouTube videos.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's criminal how athletic pat p is. We'll
Speaker 1: come back with Frank Sanders and speak in a corner
Speaker 1: if you think the Cardinals still need one. Should they
Speaker 1: go the veteran route free agency? Should they go the
Speaker 1: rookie route in the first round. That's next on the
Speaker 1: Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford in Gilbert The
Speaker 1: Fake steps up, dances around, dodges, around rolls and down
Speaker 1: the Villas Cup by Sanders clun the forty to the
Speaker 1: thirty to the twenty five, plun the twenty, still dodging people,
Speaker 1: knocked down on the fifteen yard line. Sanders makes some
Speaker 1: one handed stab on a fifty eight yard pass play.
Speaker 1: Plumber steps back, Plumbers gonna get knocked down. Oh hell,
Speaker 1: off to the right side of Morrell, and Morrell takes
Speaker 1: it in its scores Eightman winds up, rolls the ball
Speaker 1: deep in the middle of the field. It is intercepted
Speaker 1: back to the thirty. Five of the thirty goes Tommy
Speaker 1: Bennett on the twenty, on the fifteen, on the ten,
Speaker 1: on the five, he's knocked down on the Cowboy two,
Speaker 1: and you can turn out the lights in Dallas. This
Speaker 1: one's over. Bring on the Vikings. And one about those
Speaker 1: wild Cards. No one gave them a chance to win
Speaker 1: this football game. The wild Cards with a wild Card
Speaker 1: win circa nineteen ninety eight playoffs at Dallas. I was there, Wolf,
Speaker 1: There were all the Cowboy fans left Texas Stadium. Who
Speaker 1: was about two hundred Card fans beyond the Cardinals bench
Speaker 1: celebrating that victory. Frank Sanders a huge part of that win.
Speaker 1: A huge season for Frank Sanders that year, Wolf. He
Speaker 1: led the NFC in receptions with eighty nine, he had
Speaker 1: over eleven hundred yards, receiving thirteen yards a catch. He's
Speaker 1: our guest tonight on the Big Red Rage presented by
Speaker 1: santan Ford and Gilbert. And what do you remember about
Speaker 1: that win? Real quick, Frank, give it. Give us a
Speaker 1: memory on that one, because you had beaten Dallas a
Speaker 1: year before ninety seven. That was the game where the
Speaker 1: goalpost came down and then left some double stadium when
Speaker 1: down Mill Avenue ended up in the Salt river bed.
Speaker 1: But what about the playoff win at Dallas on the
Speaker 1: team personally Unius Williams and his speech before losing the huddle,
Speaker 1: you guys get a chance to go back to that.
Speaker 1: He kept screaming who Whitney because he kept said, we
Speaker 1: gotta take time, you know, the giant and he was
Speaker 1: using a biblical reference of David and Goliath, and he
Speaker 1: was like, oh Whitney, Who Whitney? And everybody's kept saying
Speaker 1: we are So I thought that was you know something
Speaker 1: about it? Sometimes the special moments like that, wi you
Speaker 1: in the huddle and the team comes up together and
Speaker 1: guys say certain things that kind of catch you off guard,
Speaker 1: but it resonates in your soul. We went out and
Speaker 1: played our butts off, but I can honestly tell you
Speaker 1: what to a great moment was. And we came back
Speaker 1: and we landed on that on the tart Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I see the Cardinal fans that was there. I mean,
Speaker 1: it just it gives chills to me right now. It
Speaker 1: makes you want to tear up because I think that
Speaker 1: sometimes you get you get the moment of how big
Speaker 1: the moment really is. You know, you just sometimes you
Speaker 1: know what it means while you're playing, use your job,
Speaker 1: you're playing, but the people that's rooting for you and
Speaker 1: the fans are really who makes what makes you know,
Speaker 1: what makes the game what it is. And you know,
Speaker 1: I was I'm a fan of the game, so I'm
Speaker 1: a little I'm like the kid at heart and it
Speaker 1: keeps us at heart. And I think that when we
Speaker 1: land on that tarpet, to see the fans that was
Speaker 1: out there, and the flags and the Cardinals and the
Speaker 1: big red Raizors out there, it was pretty Ah, that
Speaker 1: was pretty amazing. Frankie, we gotta get into the draft
Speaker 1: here quickly. But as a formal player, I have to
Speaker 1: ask you this, what do you miss the most Mondays? Right?
Speaker 1: That's good, because that's good Monday. You know what, I
Speaker 1: honestly that you miss Mondays. Monday is payday with definitely
Speaker 1: when you get out of the game, you realize what
Speaker 1: a real check looks like. What the NFL check. That's
Speaker 1: monopoly money all the way across the board. But you
Speaker 1: know what I missed. I missed running routes. I missed
Speaker 1: its running routes against air um with the quarterback coming,
Speaker 1: you know, throwing the ball. And there's something about the
Speaker 1: NFL ball that transitions from the college ball real quick.
Speaker 1: You know, we don't have that stripe, but every every
Speaker 1: now and then that new ball looks like this orb
Speaker 1: and a spear coming after you. And it sometimes it's dark,
Speaker 1: its round, it has that red you know that that
Speaker 1: that pig skin, little reddish color on it, and everybody
Speaker 1: tries to wipe that stuff off. But I missed running
Speaker 1: routes because that right there is it's like it's like ballet.
Speaker 1: It's like dancing in the mirror yourself do something pretty special,
Speaker 1: So I do. I missed the route running because that's
Speaker 1: my art, and I think that is the essence of
Speaker 1: what a receiver is supposed to be. As a route runner,
Speaker 1: but he has also catch. I always say, if you
Speaker 1: run a route so pretty you don't catch the ball,
Speaker 1: you might as we go run track. It's awesome. And
Speaker 1: of course on game day it's not against Ared's against
Speaker 1: the corners. And as I said, going to break, I said, okay,
Speaker 1: if the Cardinals are still going to add a cornerback,
Speaker 1: you tell us, you know, are you thinking veteran corner
Speaker 1: right now or are you targeting that guy in the
Speaker 1: first round number sixteen overall? And if so, you know,
Speaker 1: how much can you count on a rookie corner? What
Speaker 1: would you say to that? Because even Pat P wasn't
Speaker 1: Pat P his rookie year, right. Um, you know, I
Speaker 1: think that there is something a cornerback in the draft
Speaker 1: is a hit of miss situation because he has to
Speaker 1: come in and he you know, he can't get exposed
Speaker 1: really fast. Ron know, like most most of the time,
Speaker 1: this is the themb one thing in the NFL that
Speaker 1: they come to try to take is your confidence that's
Speaker 1: in practice, and they can still your confidence in practice.
Speaker 1: We know one hundred percent you're gonna stink it up
Speaker 1: in the game. So you got to have a core
Speaker 1: cornerback that is confident whether he is getting beat or not.
Speaker 1: But he's confident enough to learn the game where he
Speaker 1: can come out and he can overcome some of his failures.
Speaker 1: But he has the athletic ability and the mentality to
Speaker 1: want to get better. You have to have that in
Speaker 1: the draft. And sometimes that's why I say cornerbacks are
Speaker 1: hit him in situation, because you can get on a
Speaker 1: football field and just get dotted up the entire day,
Speaker 1: and once they're still your confidence, you know you're gonna
Speaker 1: need the psych character to get that back. So I
Speaker 1: would like to see us go continually bring experience in
Speaker 1: that allows us to have competition. I mean, of course
Speaker 1: the league has changed drastically because guys are not really
Speaker 1: practicing as much. But I like competition, and I think
Speaker 1: sometimes an experience guy brings that because he's hungry too,
Speaker 1: and he wants that position. And if you get that,
Speaker 1: I think that will help us. I think that help
Speaker 1: us a little bit more. Frankie, do you think it's
Speaker 1: an easier to come in as a rookie warner and
Speaker 1: contribute more though than let's say a rookie wide receiver.
Speaker 1: I think it depends on the expectation of the coach,
Speaker 1: and I have to use that, you know, sparingly, because
Speaker 1: you know, if you if you Bill Belichick, you know
Speaker 1: you on special teams. I don't care what kind of
Speaker 1: start here are you on special teams? So rookie cornerback
Speaker 1: typically if he doesn't, if he's not the guy that
Speaker 1: comes in and he's not the starter, he's gonna be
Speaker 1: on special teams. And that's not that's grunt work. And
Speaker 1: if you're first round draft picking, you gotta do grunt work.
Speaker 1: You might not feel the same, you know what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about. You know, when you're a pre m macdonnad,
Speaker 1: you just don't feel like doing that. So um, but
Speaker 1: I really, I really, I think we do need to.
Speaker 1: I like bringing a rookie cornerback in as well, trust me,
Speaker 1: but I like one that is confident in himself to
Speaker 1: feel like I deserve to be here, or he's mad
Speaker 1: enough to feel like y'all should have drafted me early.
Speaker 1: Kwame Lafter was like that. We didn't draft Quammi Kuamo
Speaker 1: was a late to men. Takuamo was an undrafted free
Speaker 1: agent and he came in behind Terry Hols and Andre
Speaker 1: Ware when you know, he had some guys to kind
Speaker 1: of fight through that he believed he deserved to be there,
Speaker 1: and when he got the spot in the chance to
Speaker 1: transition and he became the Umlas that everyone knows and
Speaker 1: that sometimes you know that's an undrafted guy, and that
Speaker 1: sometimes you gotta have a guy that has that mentalent,
Speaker 1: that believes he deserves to be there, and once you
Speaker 1: get that, you can do anything you want to do
Speaker 1: with Yeah, rest in peace, Quamy, no doubt. We loved
Speaker 1: his confidence. You know, if Robert Alfred is healthy, he's
Speaker 1: that guy, right Wolf, He's ultra confident and will compete.
Speaker 1: We know that what about receivers in this draft? Is
Speaker 1: an SEC guy? I mean, I look at some of
Speaker 1: the names here, Frank, we're on board with Frank Sanders
Speaker 1: here on the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford
Speaker 1: and Gilbert And I mean, you list the top guys,
Speaker 1: they're all from the SEC, seemingly Jamar Chase Lsu jal
Speaker 1: And Waddle Alabama, DeVante Smith Bama, Kadarius Tony from Florida,
Speaker 1: Marshall lsu, Elijah Moore ol Miss. Is there a guy
Speaker 1: you really like in this draft? The top five names
Speaker 1: you just name? If we can go one, two, three, four,
Speaker 1: and five receivers. I'd be just happy to come on, guys,
Speaker 1: let's quit kidding ourselves. We know Cliff want to throw
Speaker 1: the ball, period. We don't want to run the ball.
Speaker 1: We want to throw the ball. And we need more receivers.
Speaker 1: And the more receivers we have, the more the more
Speaker 1: opportunities that we can get out. And we got playmakers.
Speaker 1: We need playmakers that can get out and make plays.
Speaker 1: So I'm okay with the And how about this year
Speaker 1: we're talking about the SEC and receivers, which was known
Speaker 1: as a running conference, and now we got you know,
Speaker 1: five of the top ten receivers that are coming out
Speaker 1: the SEC that are capable, able and exciting. So to me,
Speaker 1: if we use our picks on some receivers, all I
Speaker 1: can say is Isabella's own notice, Kj's own notice, and
Speaker 1: anybody else that got drafted in the last two years,
Speaker 1: you don't notice because AJ's here, d hops here, Chris Christian.
Speaker 1: We haven't even in the best of Christian and I
Speaker 1: know he's he's absolutely got a lot of gas in
Speaker 1: that tank. So to me, I'm okay, We're going to
Speaker 1: get two more receivers out of the draft because I
Speaker 1: know for a fact Cliff want to stow the ball,
Speaker 1: and you know, did your guys know that too, Frankie,
Speaker 1: how would you feel though, if, in fact, did the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals all there there are a number sixteen, and
Speaker 1: they stay at number sixteen, and suddenly there's Naji Harris.
Speaker 1: Would you be okay with the Arizona Cardinals drafting running
Speaker 1: back Naji Harris from Alabama in the first round at sixteen.
Speaker 1: I think you can go get two or three running
Speaker 1: backs from Alabama and be happy with him. Because of
Speaker 1: these guys, they no one. They gotta run, they gotta
Speaker 1: run the ball, and uh, I'm definitely okay with that.
Speaker 1: We need a running back. We let go Kingan Drake
Speaker 1: and I thought he was I thought he was a
Speaker 1: good fit for our system. I mean, I thought Chase
Speaker 1: Saidmon is absolutely fabulous as well. I would like to
Speaker 1: see I would love to Celico get a tight end
Speaker 1: out of the out of the draft, but I want
Speaker 1: I want blocking tight ends and if we can pick
Speaker 1: them up in the late rounds, yeah, I want fat
Speaker 1: guys we can put on the edge that we know
Speaker 1: we can still add protect into the table. I don't
Speaker 1: want chute receivers, two tight ends, because to me, you
Speaker 1: got you got chot on the outside and that's where
Speaker 1: he you know, our quarterbacks he was want to look.
Speaker 1: So to me, I want fat boys that can block
Speaker 1: and add to some answer answer the line. You know
Speaker 1: I'm telling the two O you are. You're right on
Speaker 1: it right now. Hey, listen, if you want to go
Speaker 1: with a fourth wide receiver, go with a fourth wide receiver.
Speaker 1: If you want to go three wide in a tight end,
Speaker 1: get a real tight end so you've got some balance,
Speaker 1: you can run it and you can throw it. Hey, Frank,
Speaker 1: we got thirty seconds left here. I got to ask
Speaker 1: you the money question. You broke the news playing golf
Speaker 1: with Pat pe What about Larry Fitzgerald? Have you played
Speaker 1: golf with fits? What can you stink? And tell us
Speaker 1: right now about his future? Man since has been the
Speaker 1: most He is Kayser Soze somewhere in the country right now.
Speaker 1: This guys, he is not a football player looking like
Speaker 1: a football player somewhere in the country. And I have
Speaker 1: not had that wonderful opportunity to play with the brother.
Speaker 1: But I know he's got a lot on his mind.
Speaker 1: He's got ala on his play and uh play. We
Speaker 1: always know his heart right is right here in Arizona
Speaker 1: and what he wants to be. So that's that's not
Speaker 1: that's not the big question. You know, you know he
Speaker 1: loves us and if it works out, it works out,
Speaker 1: and it to be best whole. One of the greatest
Speaker 1: receivers ever played the game. Frankie, you're the best, buddy.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us. We really appreciate it.
Speaker 1: God bless you, buddy. Talk to you down the road.
Speaker 1: Have a blessing back right after this on the big
Speaker 1: red range, Chase Edmonds in the backfood with Murray third
Speaker 1: down in one of the twenty nine four receivers set
Speaker 1: shot gun snap, it's a run play right side, Big
Speaker 1: whole Edmunds twenty five twenty ten five touchdown the inside
Speaker 1: zone being run and Chase Edmunds found the hole. It's
Speaker 1: to the house baby, twenty nine yard touchdown run on
Speaker 1: third down in one for Chase Edmonds. All four of
Speaker 1: Chase Edmonds touchdowns at Medlife twenty parts are longer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's Jase Edmonds this year against the Jets. We know
Speaker 1: what he did the year before with three touchdown runs
Speaker 1: of twenty plus yards at the Giants. You put Chase
Speaker 1: Edmonds in the Big Apple and he's going to give
Speaker 1: you a big, big game. There's no doubt about her.
Speaker 1: Right now here on the Big Red Race presented by
Speaker 1: Satan Ford and Gilbert Ron Wolfley, you have Chase Edmonds
Speaker 1: as you're featured back. Chase Edmonds is the lone experienced
Speaker 1: running back on this Cardinals roster right now. Listen, you
Speaker 1: know the way I feel about Chase Edmonds, Polly, this
Speaker 1: guy is a football player through and through, a football
Speaker 1: player of the highest order. First, I just wonder if
Speaker 1: he's big enough to go out there and be your
Speaker 1: every down back, right, be your back that is going
Speaker 1: to carry the load and run down situations first and ten,
Speaker 1: second and one to six. I don't know, Polly. I
Speaker 1: think they need a changeup guy, a bigger guy. This
Speaker 1: is something you know, I've been talking about all off season,
Speaker 1: all the moves right now to become more physical, more
Speaker 1: physical as a team, and in particular more physical on
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. Well, at some point in time,
Speaker 1: you're gonna need somebody to line up, somebody behind that
Speaker 1: offensive line and run the ball in a more physical
Speaker 1: fashion north and south in between the tackles. Chase Edmonds.
Speaker 1: Of course you're gonna play Chase Edmonds. This guy is
Speaker 1: a great player. You're gonna play Chase Edmonds. But hopefully
Speaker 1: as an addition to some other running back that you're
Speaker 1: gonna bring in, you're gonna need that tandem. Most NFL
Speaker 1: teams have that tandem. I think the Arizona Cardinals need
Speaker 1: a bruiser ball. And look, we know the seller cap
Speaker 1: has been reduced to one hundred eighty two point five
Speaker 1: million this year. So as of right now, and you
Speaker 1: can read about it ac cardinals dot com or Kyle
Speaker 1: Dagar broke it down, the cap hit for the Cardinals
Speaker 1: at the running back position is the lowest in the NFL.
Speaker 1: It's around three million dollars right now. For the entire
Speaker 1: running back room. Chase Edmonds the only one who's making
Speaker 1: more than a million dollars, and he's barely making over
Speaker 1: a million dollars. And you have Eno, Benjamin, Jonathan Ward,
Speaker 1: Calfani Muhammad. Is this something you think is Steve Kime's approach,
Speaker 1: that maybe a rookie is added in the draft and
Speaker 1: then Cardinals hit camp with a really young and inexpensive
Speaker 1: running back room. Or do you think some of these
Speaker 1: names still out there free agency? James Connor, Todd Gurley,
Speaker 1: Duke Johnson, Adrian Peterson, Levy on Bell, Jeric McKinnon. Do
Speaker 1: you think there's a veteran that's coming via kime time sign?
Speaker 1: You know? Honestly, Polly, I do not know, But I
Speaker 1: will tell you right now that of everybody you just
Speaker 1: mentioned right there, the one guy that I think might
Speaker 1: fit the bill for being a bruising running back James Connor.
Speaker 1: Now here's a guy six one, two hundred thirty three pounds, PAULI.
Speaker 1: That's a pretty big back right there. That's a big back,
Speaker 1: and that's a guy that also runs the ball in
Speaker 1: a physical way. He's going to choose to run you
Speaker 1: over as opposed to trying to run around you because
Speaker 1: he knows he just doesn't have the jets to typically
Speaker 1: get around you. So to me, there's a guy that
Speaker 1: raises my eyebrows, and maybe a guy you could bring
Speaker 1: in that you wouldn't have to pay an awful lot
Speaker 1: of money for, and maybe a guy that would fit
Speaker 1: under the cap. And yet he's gonna give you everything
Speaker 1: he's got, probably on a one year contract. We'll see
Speaker 1: but and by the way, how about his former running
Speaker 1: backs coach with the Steelers. James Saxon is the Cardinals
Speaker 1: running backs coach, and then Sean Coogler was Steelers connections. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: if that makes for a natural path, yeah, getting signed
Speaker 1: by the Cardinals late. I will say this quickly as well.
Speaker 1: I do have a dream and that dream is somehow,
Speaker 1: some way at the forty ninth pick, Javante Williams is there.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, five ten, two, twenty five. How does that
Speaker 1: feel right there? Paul, Look, you don't have to ask
Speaker 1: me twice about young rookie legs at the running back position.
Speaker 1: There's just something about young, hungry, ferocious running backs who
Speaker 1: don't hesitate to take it between the tackles. And I'm
Speaker 1: all on board for that. Sous to tackle them, Paul. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if it's if they stay young and running back, I'm
Speaker 1: good with that. Back to wrap up this edition of
Speaker 1: the Big Red Rage, after this plush shirt and take
Speaker 1: it down, and it is Jan J Walk It picked
Speaker 1: up in the air. Running the other way with it
Speaker 1: is j J W. And he is going to go
Speaker 1: eighty plush yards for a touchdown fall the street stuffed
Speaker 1: the round and it's a trophy one picked up running
Speaker 1: in it to the fluty to the thirty, to the TWA.
Speaker 1: He's gone touchdown. What shn he do? Port of time? Up?
Speaker 1: Here comes walk? How he brings that portal to the nside?
Speaker 1: J J. And what with the sack? Look out come behind?
Speaker 1: Here comes one and second time he has got to
Speaker 1: the quarterback stafford back to past books. He's out upside,
Speaker 1: intercepted by J. J. Watt and he's gonna take it
Speaker 1: in for a touchdown. JJ want in the news this week,
Speaker 1: just the similarities and parallels to a guy he idolized
Speaker 1: when he was a kid in Wisconsin, Reggie White with
Speaker 1: Philadelphia and the anniversary of Reggie White leaving the Eagles
Speaker 1: in a shocking free agent signing and going to the
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers in nineteen ninety two, and Wolf you
Speaker 1: remember that. I mean, look, you tell me if this accurate.
Speaker 1: Guys from your era talk with absolute reverence about two
Speaker 1: defensive legends who played the game during those years, Lawrence
Speaker 1: Taylor and Reggie White. Dang Dane. Yes, Yeah, there's no
Speaker 1: doubt about it. Paul, and I got a check because
Speaker 1: of Reggie White. Okay, just the settlement with the NFL
Speaker 1: and the whole free agency, and Reggie White was incredible.
Speaker 1: Think about this, He actually went a four year contract
Speaker 1: for seventeen million dollars at the time, Polly's that was big,
Speaker 1: big muddy back then. And I'm talking about Reggie White,
Speaker 1: of course, the Minister of Defense. I've got so many
Speaker 1: Reggie White stories. I've told you them over and over
Speaker 1: and over again. He's a guy I have the utmost
Speaker 1: respect for, of course, a guy that was a great,
Speaker 1: great football player and a better dude. Well, if you
Speaker 1: go to a Z Cardinals dot com, you can see
Speaker 1: the similarities in stats and accomplishments between JJ White and
Speaker 1: JJ Watt and Reggie White, and it's just it's amazing. Dude.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that Reggie White, at age thirty seven,
Speaker 1: had a sixteen sacks season. Yeah, that's absurd, Yes, Paul was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. And you know what else I love about J. J. Watt.
Speaker 1: And you heard Frank Sanders touch on it a little
Speaker 1: bit when we asked him about his recollection from the
Speaker 1: ninety eight playoff win at Dallas, which was a monumental
Speaker 1: win in Cardinals history, and he cited the pregame speech
Speaker 1: by Neius Williams. Yes, and I immediately thought of jj
Speaker 1: Watt and all his intensity and energy and maybe, just
Speaker 1: maybe he can play a similar role for this Cardinals.
Speaker 1: To Paully once again, it's so important to listen. You
Speaker 1: don't want somebody who's gonna be rah rah rah rah rah.
Speaker 1: You don't want that guy unless he's gonna go out
Speaker 1: there and challenge everybody, including himself first, Unless he's gonna
Speaker 1: go out there and do before he's gonna start going
Speaker 1: hit him. I hit him all five five five five
Speaker 1: five right instead of Ad Paul. You need somebody who's
Speaker 1: gonna do first. That's gonna be jj Watt. Jj Watt's
Speaker 1: gonna come into this locker room, come into this paradigm
Speaker 1: and prove that he can still ball, prove that he
Speaker 1: can still play, and then suddenly he's gonna start talking
Speaker 1: and people are gonna start listening. Just like Rodney Hudson.
Speaker 1: He's gonna come in, he's gonna prove he can play,
Speaker 1: and then people are gonna start talking and listening to
Speaker 1: him talk. What Frank Sanders said, he was improving Oude
Speaker 1: going to the Ravens. He was looking at murder Ed
Speaker 1: Reid and Chris McAllister. Right you Ope, it's the same
Speaker 1: deal for all the Cargos players. Yep. Special thanks Jim
Speaker 1: am Andro, Cody Fincher and Frank Sanders, Ron Wilful, PAULC.
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