1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: Thank you vantage on the day. All right, when you 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: get out, because every game they can play chasing one touchdown. 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: Kansas City the Chiefs. All right, the think of a baby, 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: and welcome to what I think will be one of 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: the more exciting editions of defending the kingdom. We're gonna 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: call this the base ten based on the draft for 7 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs of the twenty twenty two draft. 8 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: The Choulders with your Voice of the Chiefs, joined by 9 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: Chiefs reporter Matt McMullen, and again joined by the man 10 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: we call the barber shop, the shop, the barber, the Spider, 11 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: the Richmond Spider, Sean Barber. But exciting times, man, awesome, 12 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: glad to be here. Uh you know, I've kind of 13 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: been in a little hibernation mode for a couple of weeks. 14 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: Cannot wait to be able to talk about the base 15 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: ten system as far as this draft class is concerned. 16 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: So excited for the Chiefs Kingdom to talk about each 17 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: and every one of these draft picks. I saw Shop 18 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: on Saturday after Draft Fast and he wanted to talk 19 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: about the draft. We're at the parking lot for thirty minutes. 20 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: He's like, I just want to talk about this guy 21 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: and like, all right, shop, And then I was like, 22 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: what are you doing on Monday? You want to come 23 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: and talk about it on a podcast, And he's like, 24 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 1: let's do it. So here he is. You know how 25 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: that motor goes? Yeah, when the Spider Man and the 26 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: barbershop just just doesn't turn off, it just goes. So 27 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 1: the base ten. For you mathematicians out there, you're going, yeah, 28 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: we get that. It's basically our mathematical system, right, you 29 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: have ten digit zero through nine and then you start 30 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: all over at ten and move on. That's about my 31 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: mathematical expertise. But just know that our lives are so 32 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: affected by the base ten mathematical system. The Kansas City 33 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 1: chiefs lives could be affected with this base ten draft 34 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: class of twenty twenty two that the three of us love. 35 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: And seriously, we're gonna go down every guy, all ten 36 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: of them here, So we're going to scoot along. But 37 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: before we do that, it's a defending the Kingdom tradition 38 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: that we get in our spaceship and go around the world. Yeah, 39 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: this might take longer than going through the draft picks 40 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: only three pages today people listening all over the world, 41 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: so We'll start with a listener in Guyana, South America. 42 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: That's the first. We haven't been there yet, so that's 43 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: the first. Been from Shinfield, Essex in the UK. He 44 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: officially declared it for Chief's Kingdom. Cavinda is listening from 45 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: Sri Lanka. Jeremiah checked in from Copenhagen, Denmark. Denny, as always, 46 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: is listening from the Philippines. Chief's Kingdom Far East as 47 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: he calls it, Manuga is listening in Nicaragua. Avery is 48 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: in Vancouver, Canada. They declare themselves the Chief in the 49 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: North and are confident that Patrick can throw over the 50 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: mountains up there, and I have confidence in that as well. 51 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: Alex is also from Vancouver. We're connecting people from around 52 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: the world, which I think is always cool. We also 53 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: have Ismael in Toronto. Jeff is listening in Redcliffe, Australia, 54 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: and then Lenny, who's checked in before from Dubai, wanted 55 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: to report that his fiancee, who's from Serbia, is now 56 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: a Chiefs fan, so pretty cool. I don't think we've 57 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: been in Serbia yet. Now. Lots of people, as always, 58 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: all over the country. So we have Dan. He checked 59 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: in from Oklahoma, Brada in Hawaii, Gavin from Joplin, Buck 60 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: from Concord, North Carolina. Drew and Marsha declared Chattanooga, Tennessee 61 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: the Scenic City Kingdom. My grandparents are from Chattanooga. They 62 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: live on Raccoon Mountain. Love Chattanooga. Thomas checked in from Columbus, Kansas. 63 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: Tom and Amanda, I think we've heard from before, declared 64 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: Mount Washington, Kentucky as Chiefs Kingdom East. The Bourbon Outpost. 65 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: Love that sure, Mini Chiefs fans would go there. Taste absolutely. 66 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: We'll just wait. There's some more of that we have. 67 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: Ryu listening from New Jersey. Connor is behind enemy lines 68 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: in Rio Rancho, New Mexico. He says it's both Bronco 69 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: and Raider country, but he's representing, so keeps representing out there. 70 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: Connor sean also behind enemy lines in the Bay Area. 71 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: Still a lot of raiders out there, even though the 72 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: Raiders left Oakland. Michael and Tampa declared Florida as Arrowheads South. 73 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: Duncan is listening from Oklahoma. Shane is in Malta, Montana. 74 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: Marion is listening in Iowa. Mark declared Montana as Chiefs 75 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: Kingdom North. Got a few of those Chiefs Kingdom North, 76 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: and Norma is in Lancaster, Pennsylvania. Jim declared Milwaukee as 77 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: Chiefs Kingdom North. Gary declared Vancouver, Washington as Chiefs Kingdom Northwest. 78 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: Jay declared Laplata, Missouri as Chiefs Kingdom North. So lots 79 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: of Chiefs Kingdom North this time around. Stephen is listening 80 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: right here in Kansas City, Missouri. Taylor is listening in Olympia, Washington. 81 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: We've got Maria in Las Vegas. She was at the draft, 82 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: so pretty cool. I got to see George Carlottas up 83 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: there on the stage. Zach is in Colorado Springs, and 84 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: this is what I was alluding to. He operates a 85 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: brewery out there called Nano one oh eight, but he's 86 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: dubbing it Kingdom behind enemy Lines. So if you're in 87 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: Colorado Springs, go check that out. Say hi to Zach 88 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: for us. Gary is in Flat River, Missouri, but he's 89 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: listening from Monument Colorado. Bill is also in Colorado. Lots 90 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: of people in Colorado, which I love. Ed chucked in 91 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: from Cibolo, Texas and declared it Chiefs Kingdom South Texas. 92 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: Gary is listening in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. And claims 93 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: it as chiefs Kingdom of Sunshine. My wife went to 94 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: the University of South Dakota and Vermillion. I've been to 95 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 1: two falls a million times. Love that. A lot of 96 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,119 Speaker 1: cheese fans up there, A lot of cheese fans. Reuben 97 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:12,679 Speaker 1: declared to Colorado Springs as Olympic City Kingdom USA. Louise 98 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: checked in from a sunnyside Washington. We've got Sheila in Atlanta, 99 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: Brian and Los Angeles, a listener in Dallas, Anthony and Joplin, 100 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: James and Independence, Greg and McKinley, Texas, Dan and Levittown 101 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: at Pennsylvania, Chad in Pleasant Prairie, Wisconsin. His wife went 102 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: to Purdue. So they watched all the Boilermaker games over 103 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 1: the last several years and watched They love them, but 104 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: they also have to like Chanel. There you go. Yeah, 105 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: I mean we didn't like him then, but they like 106 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: him now. Um. I also want to shout out Georgia 107 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: in Northern California, one of our most dedicated listeners, Alha 108 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: shoots me a DM after our episodes. Thank you for 109 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: watching and listening, Georgia, we really appreciate you. And then lastly, 110 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: I met some awesome people at Draftfest over the weekend. 111 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: A guy named Matt and his buddies. We took a 112 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: picture and he was gonna send it to me and 113 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: we'd put it on the broadcast. But I never saw 114 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: the photo on social media. So shoot me a DM 115 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: Matt with the photo and we'll get it on next 116 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: week's broadcast. But that's everybody. We're going to dedicate an 117 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: entire Defending the Kingdom show sometime with the three of us, 118 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: just two chief's outposts, yeah, big Charlie's. I mean we 119 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: can go through, but behind the enemy Lines one and 120 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: I love it in Colorado Springs. You might have just 121 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: put it out there for all the customers to go. Hey, 122 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: that's the name of the place. Behind enemy lines love. Okay, 123 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: let's jump into and by the way, so we had 124 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: South America, we had Eastern Europe, Asia, Asia, Australia. So 125 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: we almost hit all the continents again. Yeah, no Africa 126 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: this week, and no in Arctica. Still working in wait 127 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: on that. Okay, let's jump in out of the base ten, 128 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: the mathematical system that is part of our lives more 129 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: than any of us know. And then the base ten, 130 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: which are the ten draft picks for the Chiefs in 131 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. Now let's go back to two defending 132 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: the Kingdoms Ago, go leaping back there and revisit if 133 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: you want to have some fun, and the one we 134 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: did on volume value and victor, because honestly it became prophecy. 135 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: This feels like volume value and victory. We're gonna go 136 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 1: write down all ten of these picks and shop will 137 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: start with you because let's go to Trent mcduffey. Let's 138 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: go mcduffey. All three of us were thinking would be ten, eleven, twelve, 139 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: thirteen ish. All of a sudden he's there at twenty one. 140 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: Bret Veach grabs him, makes the trade with New England 141 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: to jump up and get Trent McDuffie. As a defender 142 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: who played in this league for over a decade, What 143 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: do you like about Trent mcduffey, the cornerback from the 144 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: University of Washington. Well, the thing that jumps off to 145 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: fims me is his mirro ability. The way he's able 146 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: to stay in front of receivers. He's never panicking all 147 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: throughout the route progression. He never panics swing the balls 148 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: in the air, and that's one thing. It's very hard 149 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: to teach DBS at this level. Um kind of reminds 150 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: me of a Champ Bailey definitely from a footwork standpoint. 151 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: He's he's a technician with his with his arm placement 152 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: when his stabs, and he's coming from you Dub who 153 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: we know is dB university. So yes, he doesn't have 154 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: the forty time time and or he doesn't have the 155 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,239 Speaker 1: height of a Sauce. Um, he doesn't come with them 156 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: the resume. I think of Stingley Junior who went to 157 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: the UM, who went earlier on in the draft. Both 158 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: of those guys got got drafted higher. But in my board, 159 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: on my big board when I broke down DBS, he 160 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: was the number one dB on my board, over Sauce, 161 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: over both of those jokers. Over both of those jokers. Man, 162 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: I've seen Sauce get beat at the line and he 163 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: makes plays up there on the field and stuff like that. 164 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: So he does some flashy type stuff. But I'm telling you, 165 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: man to be UM consistently in place and play play 166 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: sound defense. It's a it's a dedication, Um that I 167 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: see in this man's delivery, and it's his work ethic 168 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: that thing is gonna be Man, it's gonna be lights 169 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 1: out when he touches the field and the player comp 170 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: that heat compares. It reminds me of as I played 171 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: with the guy Darryl Green and and that size. Daryl 172 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: told me one thing, I got to the receiver cover 173 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: when the ball gets there, don't worry about anything else. 174 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: When the ball gets there, I'll be there in time 175 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: to punch the ball all out. He does an amazing 176 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: job of tracking the ball high pointed, and even for 177 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: his size, he plays a lot taller than he really is. 178 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: So I love the pick of McDuffie. Um. I think 179 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: we got him at the twenty first one, which is 180 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: what ten slots of where some thought he was going 181 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: to be if he becomes Darryl Green, who's probably one 182 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: of my top ten all time non Chiefs players of 183 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: all time. Darryl Green that played twenty years in the league, 184 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 1: an amazing dude and great person. Matt, your thoughts here, 185 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: and I have smart, tough, versatile people think, well, he 186 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: played a lot of his own technique. You look at 187 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: the there was a couple of cloud technique plays. He 188 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: made the big interception. He made it I think against 189 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: Washington State. But this guy does have man traits and 190 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: he is wicked smart. Yeah, and just the value was ridiculous, 191 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: as Sean mentioned, So I for our live stream, I 192 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: prepared like thirty one sheeters, just quick information about guys 193 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: that we could possibly draft. So I'd had some half 194 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: some infol there when we went live and I made 195 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: all these different one sheheeters and kept joking around that 196 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: we're going to take a guy that's not on my list, right, 197 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: And the very last one sheheter that I did was 198 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: for Trent mcduffey. And at that point, I was doing 199 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 1: ones for guys that were unrealistic, Like I did one 200 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: for Sauce, I did one for Stingley, these guys that 201 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: there's no way they were going to fall to us, 202 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 1: and I did one for Trent mcduffey, thinking there's no 203 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: way this guy's gonna fall to us. The value like 204 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: is just too high there. I mean, he's too good 205 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: of a player to be there in a realistic range 206 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: where the Chiefs could trade up. And when we got 207 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: to twenty one overall, we traded up for that pick 208 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 1: and we got word that we were taking Trent mcduffey, 209 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, what I mean, it's just unbelievable. And the 210 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 1: thing about him is some of these corners in the draft, 211 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: Stingley kind of sticks out to me. They were really 212 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: good a couple of years ago, and you know they're 213 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: great athletes, but the production hasn't necessarily been there lately, 214 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: so you kind of wonder what are you getting with that. 215 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 1: With Trent mcduffey, he's just been really good his entire 216 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: career and look at last year. He allows sixteen catches 217 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 1: for only one hundred and eleven yards all year long. 218 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: People just weren't throwing at him. He was only targeted 219 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: thirty six times all year. That's the best compliment you 220 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: can ever give a dB. That's better than a dB 221 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: having twenty interceptions if no one's throwing at him, because 222 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: he's locking guys down better than anybody. Those one hundred 223 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: and eleven yards with the fewest allowed in all of 224 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: college football. He allowed three point one yards per target, 225 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: also best in the FBS. Zero touchdowns allowed in each 226 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: of the last two years. When you draft a corner 227 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: in the first round, you want it to be a dude, 228 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: a guy that can go out there and lock guys down, 229 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: and that's all that Trump McDuffie has done his entire 230 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: career of Washington. You mentioned how versatile he is. He 231 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: can play inside but the best of him, but he 232 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: can also play outside because he plays bigger than his size, 233 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: and he can play safety if you need him to. 234 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 1: And what Spags love to do, loves moving his defensive 235 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: backs all over the place and treating them truly as 236 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: defensive backs, not just corners or safeties. So I just 237 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: love the talent of the kid, but also the value 238 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: there at twenty one is just incredible. Also, Dave Tobe, 239 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 1: when I interviewed him on stage, is going to take 240 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: a look at McDuffie as a punt returner. And he 241 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: did some returning at Washington early on, then he became 242 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: their main corner. But there is going to be an 243 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: audition there perhaps for Trent mcduffee to be a returner. 244 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 1: When he tied himself into the honey Badger, that was 245 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: a smart move and a pr standpoint. But you see 246 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: some honey badger in Trent McDuffie's game. The knock on 247 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 1: him size, but he plays bigger than that. You guys 248 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: both alluded to that and their lack of productivity. Only 249 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: two picks in three years, but a lot of that 250 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: was the fact that nobody was throng. Now, what's wrong 251 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: at him? All right, let's go into the next one, 252 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: and that's George Carloftus. This is our water polo guy 253 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: from Greece. Nobody from Greece watching or listing. I guess 254 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: at least right now to defending the kingdom, they will 255 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 1: be if we had the Greek flag out here, we 256 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: would put it out there because honestly to me, and 257 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,719 Speaker 1: I'll get your thoughts first and then we'll go to 258 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: shop on this one with Carloftis again drops to thirty. 259 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: Minnie thought he would be ten picks higher than that. 260 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: George Carloftus. So smart, tough, versatile, dependable, durable, and this 261 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: guy spags can do a lot of things. With George 262 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,719 Speaker 1: karlofts it's like the same buzzwords for McDuffie, right. That's 263 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: kind of the theme of this draft is smart, tough, durable, versatile, 264 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: and Carlottis is all of those things really productive last year. 265 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: He had fifty four pressures last season, second bust pass 266 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: rush win rate last season behind only Aiden Hutchinson. That 267 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: guy's pretty good. Went number two overall, So consistently winning, 268 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: and he's versatile. He's a big guy, so he's versatile. 269 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: You can play him on the edge or inside, and 270 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: he's a power rusher. That's what he's gonna do. This 271 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: guy is one of the most strong guys in this 272 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: entire draft, and he's just gonna bull rush and barrel 273 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 1: over people. And that's what you kind of hope translates 274 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: to the NFL. He's also an iron man, so he 275 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: had at least forty nine snaps and all but one 276 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: game last season. And that gets back to his versatility. 277 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: He never wants to come off the field, so in 278 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: certain situations where you don't necessarily need all your edge 279 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: rushers out there, he's like, all right, I'll bounce inside 280 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: if I can, and vice versa. So I love that 281 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: about him. He described himself as relentless, and I mentioned 282 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: that on our last podcast, but I just love it. 283 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: You want that out of a first round edge rush, 284 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: and you want a guy who's relentless, who just wants 285 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: to go out there and contribute in any way that 286 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: he can. He doesn't care that he's only in there 287 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: in sack situations. He doesn't care about that. He wants 288 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: to get after the ball carrier and help his team win. 289 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: And that's George Carloftish and I love that he has 290 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: a chip on his shoulder. He was saying that twenty 291 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: nine teams are going to regret not taking him before 292 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: that spot. So he's gonna go out there and and 293 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: be relentless throughout his entire career. And and I can't wait. 294 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: I've seen this kind of cat come out the draft before, 295 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: and recently we've actually faced the kit. It reminds me 296 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: a lot of Carloftus and it's Sam Hubbard with Cincinnati 297 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: great because so effective, it's it's it's hard because the 298 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: guy doesn't jump off the page as far as his 299 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: vertical lead or his forty times or any of the metrics, 300 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: but so productive, always doing something for the team, always 301 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: taking on a double team, always holding blocks off so 302 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: the linebackers and shoot the gaps consistently getting closer and closer. 303 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: And this collapse in the pocket around the quarterback versus 304 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: that spla ash off the edge that were used to 305 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: seeing in the NFL. And now that I think that 306 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: the NFL is starting to like just as a systematically, 307 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: we know that they're they're not pressuring as much just 308 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: just the collectiveness of the NFL overall defensive coordinators I 309 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: think are getting away from that all out blitz dog 310 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: mode and you're gonna see people dropping into more two 311 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: shelves and rushing four, rushing just three in that pocket 312 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: now just has to be constricted slowly around the quarterback, 313 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: and it takes certain body types that are strong enough 314 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: to hold on. It's only three against five offensive linements, 315 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: but you still got to find a way to get 316 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: to that quarterback. And I think the way when I 317 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: see him on film, he's very consistent about keeping his 318 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: eyes on the quarterback, always gaining ground using that pressure. 319 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: I'm using that strength to get just collapse that pocket. 320 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: So I'm very excited about a guy who I had 321 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: is my fourth overall end. Here's my fourth overall edge 322 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: when I ranked him, But there was no way I 323 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: thought he would be available after fifteen. People joke of 324 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: the fact that he played water polo to me, and 325 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: we talk about this too. That's a part of his strength. 326 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: That's the reason he played fifty snaps a game every time, 327 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: like you can't get him off the field. This guy 328 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: is durable. Now. The knock on him is hey maybe 329 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: too much bullrush. He's got to add something to his game. Well, 330 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: there's Joe cole in, the new defensive line coach. Remember 331 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: Brandon Daily moved to linebackers. But this guy's just getting started. 332 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: He really hasn't played that much football, so just getting 333 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: started with George karloftas but exciting to see this guy 334 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: play a motor in toughness. All right, people are waiting 335 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: in the Chiefs Kingdom. What are they going to do? 336 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: A wide receiver. They're gonna get a wide receiver. They 337 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: get a wide receiver out of Western Michigan, right at 338 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: the same school to produce Corey Davis. Just a couple 339 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: of years ago, the Chiefs gets sky More at five 340 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: nine one led FBS with twenty six broken tackles, highly productive, 341 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: almost one hundred catch season. We'll start with you, shot 342 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: sky More. What do you think, Well, we always start 343 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: with those pro cops. And obviously, playing teen years in 344 00:16:58,320 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: the league, I played with a lot of guys that 345 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: were me of this young man. So I'm thinking Eddie Kennison, 346 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 1: I'm thinking Lance More, I'm thinking receivers like that. Also 347 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: played with a very productive James Thrash, another small school guy. 348 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: Very underrated, had a long career. Strong hands, big hands, 349 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: always can possess the ball. Um always is in the 350 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,959 Speaker 1: right place. And I think sometimes as a quarterback, UM, 351 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: you know, you get away from having these ultra highly effective, 352 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: highly elusive type receivers that are just jumping off the page. 353 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: You want somebody's you can can can consistently know it's 354 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: gonna be at the right place the right time when 355 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: you deliver the ball, and catching the ball is almost 356 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 1: I'm not not even worth thinking about. Once you throw, 357 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: it is in his hands, his court, and he's making 358 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: positive yarders. So I see a comp of those three guys. 359 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: If he comes close to any of duals three guys, 360 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: he's gonna have a long career in the Chief's kingdom. 361 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: He was targeted one hundred and twenty five times last year, 362 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: three drops the entire year. Huge hands like and sure handed, 363 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: and that's what you want. My concept for sky More 364 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: is he can run a slant over the middle with 365 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: his quickness because his speed might not jump off the 366 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: page in terms of combine measurables, but he's quick off 367 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: the line, one of the quickest receivers off the line, 368 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: and this entire draft, he can beat a dB out 369 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: of his break run that slant catch the ball because 370 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: he's sure handed, and as you said with the broken tackles, 371 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: he's one of the most elusive receivers in this entire class. 372 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: PFF said that if all the receivers in this class 373 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: played tag, he would win, all right. So he's super 374 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: elusive and I love that about him. The production last 375 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: year you kind of mentioned it. Ninety four grabs for 376 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: thirteen hundred yards and ten touchdowns. Just the agility that 377 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: he shows is really exciting. PF compared him to Julian Edelman. 378 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: Of course it's a high comp but just really exciting 379 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: to have kind of that safety valve over the middle 380 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 1: for the Chiefs, and think like third and four, third 381 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: and five, having that guy that's reliable every single time 382 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: can get himself open and catch the football when it's 383 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 1: thrown at him. I just love this pick. And just 384 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: like the other guys, ship on this guy's shoulder. I mean, 385 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: he was under recruited out of the Pittsburgh area, ends 386 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: up at Western Michigan and just let the world on fire. 387 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: But he's convinced he's going to show people he's better 388 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: than what people seem to think of him, and he's 389 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: consistently doubted, and I love those kind of players because 390 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: guys that are doubted are going to show up ready 391 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 1: to go. One of the things that I love about 392 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: him and the coordinators mentioned this because EB mentioned it. 393 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: Eric Bienemy on stage with me on Saturday at Draft Fest. 394 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: Western PA's really good football. This was a high school 395 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: quarterback much like McCole Hardman was. He was also a 396 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: high school dB. He was recruited by Western Michigan as 397 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: ADB and to me, receivers many times receivers turn into dbs. 398 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: Sometimes dbs turn into receivers, and I think it helps 399 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 1: him when it's that way, because they understand coverages, they 400 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: understand how to get open, and they can understand how 401 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: to move the chains. Do not forget Go back and 402 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: look at the video if you can. Throughout around the 403 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: world for our defending the kingdom, viewers and listeners find 404 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh They beat Pittsburgh. Western Michigan bat Pittsburgh and 405 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett in a big reason was Sky Moore's Big 406 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,959 Speaker 1: place excited about this one. All right, let's jump in 407 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: out of the next pick and this I'm gonna start 408 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: with Matt on this one because this is a guy. 409 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: On April the eleventh, was sending me stuff. Hey, watch 410 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: Brian Cook's video. Watch Bran Cooks video. The Chiefs get 411 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: Brian Cook out of the University of Cincinnati. Another incredible 412 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: value pick what did you like about him? On April eleventh? 413 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: And what do you love about him now? I text 414 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: Mitch in April eleventh, I'm working on one of my 415 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 1: draft talk videos. I'm gonna look at safety's right, and 416 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: I'm looking at all these different guys, guys like Jalen Petrie, 417 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: Nick Cross, all these different dudes, guys that will be 418 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: highly drafted, and I stumble upon a kid named Brian 419 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: Cook from Cincinnati, and I watch his video and I'm like, 420 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: oh my god, we need this guy. He's an enforcer 421 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: type safety, which I just love in the box when 422 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 1: you have a guy running a shallow crosser or something 423 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: and you can have an enforcer safety that reminds them 424 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: that they're there every single time. I'm big hits from 425 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: this guy. He's a sure tackler, only seven miss tackles 426 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: on one hundred attempts last year. And I mentioned a 427 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,199 Speaker 1: true hybrid player, So four hundred and fifty snaps and 428 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: coverage last year, but had the ninth most forced in 429 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: completions and also four hundred and fifty snaps against the 430 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 1: run with the eighth most run stops. So this guy 431 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 1: is just absolutely awesome. And in that text chain and 432 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: we were talking about him, I compared him to Cam Chancellor, 433 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: which is of course a lofty cop. We'll see if 434 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: he can reach that. But you were spying with the 435 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 1: eyeball emoji. And then I see him at Draft Fest 436 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: on Saturday and just getting to know him a little bit, 437 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: and someone asked him who was your favorite team growing 438 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: up and he said it was the Seattle Seahawks and 439 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: the Legion of Boom. And I'm like, okay, I have 440 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: to show him now, so I show him the text 441 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 1: chain between me and you, and I was like, man, 442 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: I compared you to Cam Chancellor, like a month ago. 443 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: I was on your team before you were on our team. 444 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: And He's like, all right, so we'll see what he 445 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: turns into. But I love Brian Cook. Let me get 446 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: another comp here, might be Sean barburn Away. This was 447 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: you coming out of college. I'm all play to the 448 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: crowd here, but this was you. I mean you're coming 449 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,719 Speaker 1: this guy. Uh that started at Howard right, so he 450 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: was a small school guy player at HBCU. Then he 451 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: transferred to Cincinnati. But a guy that is sought to 452 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: be can play in the box, but also athleticism. But 453 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: what do you see when you see Brian Man? You 454 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: know what I see and I know U cam chance 455 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: it was a lofty goal. I'm I'm gonna go a 456 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: little bit lofty because I see I mean, I mean, 457 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I see Brian Dawkins, a guy that it 458 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: was in my ear my whole career when I was 459 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia two years I was there. Um, having won 460 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 1: a coach reach favorites, but having a knowledge of the game, 461 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: being able to control the secondary bid to control when 462 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: it's a pass set, knowing kind of instinctively where you 463 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: need to be. But coming with such type of raw emotion. Um, 464 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: the way he hits guys, the way you see him, 465 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: I mean it the place stops immediately. I mean he 466 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: got some woo licks. That what he delivers on these receivers. Man, 467 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: it makes you to start thinking of some of the 468 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 1: greatest hitting safeties in the league. Um. Greg Wesley, who 469 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: was a Chiefs guy here I'm known for his coverage, 470 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: but also known because he delivered a below. I had 471 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: a nasty streak in the way he went about his business. 472 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: So those two comps obviously both tremendously different players. But 473 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: I see a little bit of Greg Wessey, I see 474 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: a little bit of Brian Dawkins, and I think when 475 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: you wrap that up, man, this Cook key, it can 476 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: be very special. When you talk about how Spag is 477 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 1: gonna use them to your point, find the video of 478 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 1: where he chases down the Temple quarterback. It's a football 479 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: camp tackle. It's awesome. Seven tackles against Georgia at the 480 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: end of twenty twenty, Yes, those Georgia Bulldogs. And the 481 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: other point here with Brian Cook is the fact that 482 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: the Chiefs love to play a very unique coverage four 483 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: one six. Well, they'll play three safeties in three corners. 484 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: Well one of those three safeties better be a box safety. 485 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: Play those crossers, Matt, like you've talked about, deliver a 486 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: blow and be physical. Or if they check to a 487 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: run with these running quarterbacks or the single back usually 488 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 1: against that, they've got to make tackles. It was a 489 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: big deficiency for the Chiefs in twenty twenty one. Hopefully 490 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 1: Cook can fill in that gap. All right, shop, we're 491 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: gonna get the first chance here because now we go 492 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,719 Speaker 1: to a guy, Leo Chanell at a University of Wisconsin 493 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 1: at sixty three two fifty Major Production Big ten linebacker 494 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: of the Year called a sender block of strength. All right, 495 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: here's Chanelle. What are you think, man? I see the axe. Man. 496 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: I see him taking out both of those a gaps 497 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: at will whenever he wants it, almost playing like ten 498 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: man football. You have everybody else playing the defense, and 499 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: you allow this, You allow him the freedom to just 500 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: own command, say I'm gonna take out and I'm gonna 501 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: blow up anything that comes to that right or left 502 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: a gap, and then as a defense you play off him. 503 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: It is so hard for an offense to be able 504 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: to play defense, I mean play offense when you have 505 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: defenders that don't always do what you think they're gonna do. 506 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: And this guy has so much instinct. I believe he's 507 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: a football mine. Zach Thomas comes to mind. I already 508 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: said ax man. So that's Jeremiah Trota. So somewhere in 509 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 1: the mix between the Jeremiah Trota and Zach Thomas just 510 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 1: knowing the game of football, knowing it to the infinite degree, 511 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: being as alignment assignment, being one of those guys two 512 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty some pounds linebacker. Loves to run, loves 513 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: to hit, he loves football. It's hard to find guys 514 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: in this day and time that they're so focused on 515 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 1: the game of football. Love it, eat it, read it, 516 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: love everything about the game. His physical nature, man, I 517 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: think I heard he bench press two twenty five about 518 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: forty sometimes. So he's a mountain of a man man, 519 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: and he's gonna be somebody. Can you can anchor the 520 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: first and second down runs? After d on the stage 521 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 1: during draft facts, you guys heard this when I said, Leo, 522 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 1: what do you bring to the table. He just goes 523 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: violence and physicality. Just that's all he said. Three words 524 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: and the places. But puzz Chanel the linebacker from Wisconsin, 525 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 1: and there is no hesitation like he knew that. Violence 526 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,479 Speaker 1: and physicality. It's like, yes, linebacker and that's what he is. 527 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: And he also provides the Chiefs with some flexibility in 528 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: the linebacker corps. So Brett Feach talked about it after 529 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: he was drafted. But this kid's a true strong side. 530 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: Sam linebacker. You can put him out there in your 531 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: base sets, move will a gay at will where he's 532 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: He's said athletic and can move around and can cover, 533 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: and that's where he probably should be. And then also 534 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: Chanel can back up Nick Bolton that middle linebacker. And 535 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: you can never have enough depth at those spots, particularly 536 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: premium depth, like if Leo has to go out there 537 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: and play middle linebacker. We got to see how he does, 538 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: of course in the offseason training program, but just based 539 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: on what we know about him as a prospect, he 540 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: can do that. So I'm excited about the flexibility he 541 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: provides the Chiefs. He's just so athletic, which is just 542 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: amazing for a player of his size. Now he's got 543 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: a forty and a half vertical insane. It's the same 544 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: as one Thornhill. Yeah, at sixty three two hundred and 545 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: fifty pounds. There's a metric out there called relative athletic score. 546 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: You might see it on Twitter at math bomb. He's 547 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: the guy that does all these things, and it's a 548 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: composite of all their combine and protey and all this stuff, 549 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: like their athletic measurables and compares them to other players 550 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: in history, and he on a scale of one to ten, 551 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: his relative athletic score was nine point nine nine. He 552 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 1: was the third most athletic linebacker since nineteen eighty seven. 553 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: There's over a thousand linebackers that have been graded on 554 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: this scale since then. He's number three. I just can't 555 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: wait to see what he can do in this defense. 556 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: And also I like him as a just a blitzer 557 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: off the edge. Like I'm certain sub packages just use 558 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 1: him as a designated blitzer. He can go through that 559 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: a gap and just blow a guy up. I can't 560 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: wait to see what he can do. The only disappointment 561 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: is our trip around the world. We did not hear 562 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: from Grantsburg, Wisconsin, because that's the hometown of Leo Chanel, 563 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: and that is one thousand, three hundred and seven humans 564 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: that live in that town. His brothers also play at 565 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 1: Wisconsin very near River Falls, where the Chiefs used to 566 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: have training camp. But little town guy, that's a big 567 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: time talent. So that's the first five of this base 568 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 1: ten of the Chiefs twenty twenty two draft class. And 569 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 1: after those five were chosen, we did have a chance 570 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: to catch up with general manager Bread Veach all Right, 571 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: a chance to catch up now with General manager Bread Veach. 572 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 1: Let's start with day one. How excited were you when 573 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 1: Trent McDuffie and George Carlopas fell to you at those spots. Yeah, 574 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: we were certainly excited, and we joked earlier where you know, 575 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: we and so much time in regards to going over 576 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: every scenario and then um, felt like we played out 577 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: every scenario. But the one scenario we didn't play out 578 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: was Trent McDuffie being there, Um in that range we 579 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: can go op and get him, So to get him 580 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: and then come back and still feel a big need 581 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 1: at d in there with with George was certainly exciting 582 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: for us and look forward to getting them in here 583 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: pretty soon. And those two guys, how much are they 584 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: culture builders? I mean, those are good players. But and 585 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: then on the heels of what you signed last year, Yeah, 586 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: and and and then what we came back today and 587 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: all these guys M Trent, George, Um, you know, Sky 588 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: and and Lee. All these guys are our guys that 589 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: love the process, love the game. They're gonna set the 590 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: tempo in the in the meeting rooms and that's going 591 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: to translate on Sundays. Let's talk about how day two 592 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: fell to you because you did some maneuvering again, but 593 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: the chance to get a sky more and then to 594 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: get some additions, it'll help you also in special teams 595 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: with Cook. Yeah, we got that extra pick and that 596 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: was big, right. So um uh but no, listen, we um. 597 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: We knew that we would have opportunities to add some 598 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: town and we also knew that on Saturday we had 599 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: a four and you know, handful of sevens and we 600 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: were sitting there on the clock and kind of felt 601 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: that was the safe spot to go from fifty to 602 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: fifty four and get that little bridge pick in between 603 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: fours and sevens. Um, and then you know, to add 604 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: a playmaking wide out and sky more and then um 605 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: add a versatile M linebacker in Leo. Um. You know 606 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: he'll be able to come in here and play some 607 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: SAM place some mic and we certainly need depth at 608 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: the linebacker position and we need a guy that can 609 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: you know, play that the backup micro position, back back 610 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: up mic linebacker position. So um, you know, we're excited 611 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: to get him. And like I said, all all these 612 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: guys that were able to take the last few days here, 613 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: I mean, we think these guys am coming right away 614 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: and help us Day one final question, Day one though two, 615 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: it seems like you got some four course special teams 616 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: help perhaps here. Yeah, and that's um that's a cherry 617 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: on top. So you know we have some um certainly 618 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: some um position needs that we need to fill and 619 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: we're able to do that and get in the corner 620 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: um getting the DN the receiver and you know, a 621 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: versatile multipositional linebacker. But then, as you mentioned, Mitch, just 622 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: to come back with those guys with those knees and 623 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: know that all these guys are going to be there 624 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: for Dave on Sunday against this terry on top. But 625 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: Brad Veach was far from done. And the rest of 626 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: the base ten are worth a worthy discussion. And if 627 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: you can't tell, all three of us are having fun 628 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: talking about the base ten system, not mathematics, these ten 629 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: draft picks. Let's jump into the next guy, and Mad'll 630 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: start here with you, and that's Joshua Williams, the cornerback 631 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: out of Fayetteville State Division two School and HBCU School 632 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: six three, one nine five. Let me just start this way. 633 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: HBCU Corners in Chiefs History Jim Marcellis Tennessee State Super 634 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: Bowl four champion Emmett Thomas, Bishop College Pro Football Hall 635 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: of Fame Albert Lewis, who played at Grambling. Some of 636 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: the greatest corners in the history of our franchise came 637 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: from HBCU schools. There's a lot to like about josh Williams. 638 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: He was the first draft e out of an HBCU 639 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: since twenty twenty. I believe in the highest drafted one 640 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: since twenty nineteen. So pretty cool Joshua Williams to the Chiefs. 641 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: Tremendous size and length with this guy. He's a corner 642 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: who stands at six foot three, one hundred ninety four pounds, 643 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: So love that size and length, good wingspan on this kid. 644 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: Lant zero Line from NFL dot Com, one of the 645 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: best draft analysts out there, said he was a small 646 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: school cornerback with big school traits and talent. The thing 647 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: is he's raw. Like playing at a smaller school. The 648 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: competition level will be significantly different in the NFL. But 649 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: you can't teach six three, one ninety four with long 650 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: arms and ball skills. He can't teach that, and he 651 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: was really good at Fayettville State. I mean, you can 652 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: only play who's against you, and he had good production 653 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,719 Speaker 1: there twenty four passes defense to over his last twenty games. 654 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: So when you get to this point in the draft, 655 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: you're kind of drafting based on traits. I mean, no 656 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: player is perfect at this point. But if you see 657 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: a guy that, yeah, it's a small school, but he's 658 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: six foot three and has ball skills and is only 659 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: a set ending as a player. I mean he went 660 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: to the Senior Bowl and held his own against players 661 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: from Georgia and Alabama and Clemson and everywhere else. So 662 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: really excited about Joshua Williams. He'll go out there and 663 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's a starting corner on day one, 664 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: but you develop him kind of like the Chiefs did 665 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: with tre Various Ward. I get defensive of playing levels 666 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: because the CIAA is a good Division two league. This 667 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: is a league that shop who played fcs at Richmond. 668 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: But the next notchdown Division two these is Virginia Union 669 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: and Virginia Wise Johnson C. Smith. These are a good players. 670 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: We've had NFL guys come out of this. What do 671 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: you see in Joshua Williams. I see what I like. 672 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: I see guys I played with before I see the 673 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: Bobby Taylors of the world. I see guys that play 674 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,479 Speaker 1: like I mean, we remember Bobby Taylor with the Eagles, 675 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: long six two, great wingspan, is able to play the 676 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: high point of balls and get you in and out 677 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: of breaks. Great trail technique. I love his trail technique 678 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: on everything. I mean, it's no separation. And to be 679 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: a guy that's tall and that you know, I don't 680 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: want to say he's linky, but he's long. He has 681 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: great arm, able to break up passes and get him 682 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: all and not even there's Troy Vincent, Bobby Tailing. Troy Vincent. 683 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: Cornerbacks like that. They give a wide receivers so much 684 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: trouble trying to get in and out of your breaks, 685 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: trying to get down the field because they had these 686 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: super ow long arms there able to adjust you adjust 687 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: your routes. In quarterbacks, they come off receivers really quick. 688 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: When you see the guys are lockdown by these guys 689 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: with these long arms. So I like mister Williams. Obviously 690 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: small school guy had to kind of travel the same 691 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: road I did. Come from University of Richmond, having time 692 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: in the Senior Bowl, having time go to the combine 693 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: and work out. Everybody said level of competition University of 694 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: rich Man, We don't know about your level of competition. Well, 695 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: guess what come training camp. When this young man and 696 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: gets on this field, no one's gonna care to he 697 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: went to Fairville State. No one's gonna care what round 698 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: he got drafted or what number. It's gonna be like, 699 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do now to show us that 700 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: you're supposed to be here and you deserve some playing time. 701 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: And I believe this man's gonna rise to the occasion. Man. 702 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: I love what you said about his wingspace in two 703 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: at fifty three inch wingspan, and the fact that we're 704 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 1: also seeing why you have the HBCU Legacy Bowl and 705 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,720 Speaker 1: why you have the HBCU Combine. But the Chiefs folks 706 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: were way ahead of this, way back because they were 707 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: the first franchise, really in professional football to go to 708 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: the hbc you schools and get some of the greatest 709 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: players to ever play in the game. Fuck Buchanan, we 710 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: go right down the line, Willie Lanier and others. Maybe 711 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: have another one here in Joshua Williams. Okay, another one. 712 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: Austin Woodard helps us during the draft. He lives in Joplin, Missouri. 713 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: He went berserk with this pick, and this pick is 714 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: really interesting. And Darren Kinnard the offensive tackle slash guard 715 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: as he tackle is he a guard from the University 716 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: of Kentucky. He won the Jacobs Blocking Trophy as the 717 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: best blocking offensive lineman in the SEC. Wait a minute, 718 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: wasn't Evan Neil in this draft? What about cross from 719 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,280 Speaker 1: Mississippi State? He was ruled better than those guys. Shop 720 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: will start with you, what kind of steal did the 721 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: chief scared here? Some shade was off by eighty picks. 722 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 1: To get a guy like this, I think he recorded 723 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: thirty pancakes last season, So thirty pancakes blocks with me. 724 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: The guy you're blocking ends up flat on the ground 725 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: on his back is phenomenal. And to get this guy, 726 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,399 Speaker 1: I mean he comes into the Kingdom with the edge 727 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: on the shoulder. So if you if you're looking for 728 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: a bunch of hot takes or some some audio bikes, 729 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: this ain't the guy to get it from. He's coming 730 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: in every day with a job with a demeanor. He 731 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: doesn't want to get it done. He want to get 732 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: the job done. He wants to protect the quarterback. He 733 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: wants to make the other guy's job across from kind 734 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: of like a nightmare. So our defensive line is gonna 735 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,919 Speaker 1: get gonna get beat on all training camp long based 736 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: this young man, but he deserved. He considers himself a 737 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: starting right tackle and he's almost disrespected that the draft 738 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: went that long without him getting and so yes, he's 739 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: happy to be a part of the Kingdom, but he 740 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 1: doesn't He's not gonna come here like with a satisfied 741 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: He's not gonna come here like I've arrived today. When 742 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: he gets to training camp, you're gonna see like day 743 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: one of his journey. And he might not speak to 744 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 1: anybody on the entire team, he might not have many 745 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 1: words for anybody in that huddle, but I bet he's 746 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: gonna be one of the most physical guys I'm during 747 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 1: training camp, and hopefully that carries open to the season. Matt, 748 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: why did he drop? And if he is a tackle, 749 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,399 Speaker 1: let's all imagine here around the world in the Chiefs 750 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 1: Kingdom him at right tackle, shoulder to shoulder with Trey Smith, 751 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 1: who was the same demeanor at guard. Well, you mentioned 752 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: Austin Woodard who helps us do our board and helps 753 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: us with our draft prep. He was with us on 754 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 1: night one and night two, and on night two, we're 755 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 1: just all excited about our draft getting all this value 756 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: and all this talent, and we asked him what do 757 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: you think, and he's like, I love the draft so far, 758 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: but I wish we could have gotten Canard out of Kentucky. 759 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: And then we get him in the fifth round. He 760 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 1: was the number seventy nine overall player on Pro Football 761 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 1: Focus's board and we get him at pick number one 762 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 1: forty five. You mentioned how how what a steel he 763 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 1: was in terms of how many picks off. Warren Sharpe 764 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: did a deal where he compared basically projections to where 765 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: guys were actually taken, and Cannard was the seventh best 766 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: value you pick and the entire draft, and the Chiefs 767 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,720 Speaker 1: get this guy. Guard tackle flexibility, like you said, PFF 768 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 1: had him as the best tackle in the SEC last year. 769 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 1: Just really productive and he's huge. He's six five three 770 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,879 Speaker 1: and twenty two pounds at the combine and he played 771 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,879 Speaker 1: bigger than that at Kentucky. I think he was three 772 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,280 Speaker 1: forty five at one point one hundred and nine knockdowns 773 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: in his career. And it gets back to what you 774 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 1: were saying about that demeanor that he has. He's a 775 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,879 Speaker 1: nasty dude. I mean everywhere I look, they just call 776 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: him a maler. And that's what you won along the 777 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,280 Speaker 1: offensive line. And the Chiefs really went through a culture 778 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,280 Speaker 1: shift along their offensive line, getting guys like Tray Smith, 779 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 1: Joe Tuney, Creed Humphrey. And he's gonna fit right in. 780 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 1: Watch the video of him against Lshoe. He takes out 781 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,399 Speaker 1: the first level, goes the suck a level. He's looking 782 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 1: for dudes at the third level watching block against Trevon 783 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: Walker in the University of Georgia. So maybe work on 784 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,360 Speaker 1: his pass sets. But this guy is a monster and 785 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 1: comes in as shop said, both of you guys said 786 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: with an attitude. All right, let's go to the next player. 787 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,799 Speaker 1: We got three guys left on the base ten here 788 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: the ten draftees for the Kansas City Chiefs and the 789 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two NFL draft Jalen Watson six two, one 790 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 1: ninety seven out of Washington State. We think cops here. 791 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: I think Washington State. I think this size of dude. 792 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 1: I think of a James Hasty. Actually we're gonna go 793 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 1: way back here. But he came out of Wazoo, same 794 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 1: kind of deal. Kid coach was a Juco at Ventura 795 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,799 Speaker 1: in California. We'll start with you, Matt. Jalen Watson well, 796 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,359 Speaker 1: similar deal to Joshua Williams, where Jalen Watson is a long, 797 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 1: physical corner and you can't teach those kind of things. 798 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,879 Speaker 1: And the NFL nowadays you need corners who are tall. 799 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 1: Like even ten years ago, having a corner over six 800 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: foot tall was very unique, but nowadays, when you have 801 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 1: receivers like Mike Williams in your division, you have to 802 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 1: have tall, athletic, long corners to guard those kind of guys. 803 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 1: So it's not just an easy jump ball situation for 804 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: the receiver. And Jillen Watson fits that bill. He's six 805 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: foot two, one hundred and ninety seven pounds, outstanding height 806 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: and length for a corner. He's only fifteen games at 807 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 1: the FBS level, so he's raw. Didn't play a lot 808 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: of games at Washington State because he was a JUCO transfer, 809 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 1: but he had good production while he was there. I mean, 810 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,760 Speaker 1: he was a two time honorable mention for All Pac twelve. 811 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 1: So he played well at Washington State. And he's again 812 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 1: a raw player that has those tools as physical tools, 813 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 1: you can't teach. One. Other thing I love about him 814 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 1: is out of Ventura Community College, he was one of 815 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 1: the top JUCO players in the nation. He's being recruited 816 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 1: by tons of different schools. I think he was the 817 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 1: number nine corner out of JUCO in the country. Tons 818 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,319 Speaker 1: of schools won him. He signs with USC, but he 819 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 1: turns out to be academically ineligible. A lot of players 820 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 1: their career would end there. But what he'd do. He 821 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: went back home to Georgia and started working at Wendy's 822 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: and taking classes, ended up being a straight as student, 823 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: got his degree, and then went to Washington State and 824 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 1: balled out, and now he's being drafted. That's a cool story, 825 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: and it says a lot about the kid. You played 826 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,279 Speaker 1: in this league a long time shop. This kid had 827 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: to get his mind right and he did it doing 828 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 1: fast food in the twenty nineteen year in Augusta, Georgia. 829 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 1: What about a kid getting his mind right and set 830 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 1: and coming in with this kind of potential. He's gonna 831 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 1: come to the edge on the shoulder and he's gonna tough, 832 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 1: smart football player. He's already seen a little bit of 833 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 1: failure and sometimes a little taste of failure is we 834 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 1: really get your motor going and kind of elevate you 835 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 1: in vault you to be a true pro. So knowing 836 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,800 Speaker 1: that this guy is not coming in thinking he's arrived, 837 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: it's going to be an awesome opportunity to get a 838 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,720 Speaker 1: guy that's I think it's gonna battle with our current guys. 839 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 1: Day one is wanting some playing time on the field. 840 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 1: We know his his immediate value and being special teams. 841 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 1: He'll be a special teams demon and if he's if 842 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: he's got anything, any kind of goal, it should be 843 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: to be a special Teams captain Day one because he 844 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 1: has that versatility. He has that size, the length, the speed, 845 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: the physicality to be a guy that can be a 846 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 1: all four core special teamer. He can be a tip 847 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: of the spear. That's a term that we use and 848 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 1: special teams. When you're a tip of the spear, you're 849 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,720 Speaker 1: the first entry point when you're trying to kill your opponent, 850 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 1: the first thing that reaches that tip of the spear. 851 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 1: And I see a guy like that is going down 852 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 1: there on any special teams phase, at any point of 853 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: the game and making a play changing, a game changing 854 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 1: play and so a guy like this guy, man, he's 855 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,799 Speaker 1: gonna come hungry, he's gonna come aggressive, he's gonna learn 856 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 1: the defense. But you already say he's a smart kid. 857 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 1: Spagnola's defense man. It's definitely it's got some volume to it. 858 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 1: But once you learn your assignment and your alignment, you're 859 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,399 Speaker 1: able to go and let your your instincts take over. 860 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 1: And so I can't wait to see this guy that's 861 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 1: instinctively be able to take over and be somebody on 862 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 1: the field again. We can talk about some trades, some 863 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 1: comps m dB that I played with. When my last 864 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,440 Speaker 1: year the Texans, I played with the guy Dante Robinson, 865 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 1: a guy from South Carolina. He reminds me of him. 866 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 1: He kind of reminds me a little bit of a 867 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 1: Lido Shepherd to Sheldon Brown. This guy's they played with 868 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 1: so much tenacity. They never let the the size or 869 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,800 Speaker 1: the lack keep them from making the next big play. 870 00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 1: So I appreciate a guy coming in already taste a 871 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 1: little bit of failure, had to go kind of reinvent 872 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 1: himself and talk about how much do you really love 873 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 1: the game of football? Because I guarantee when he was 874 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,439 Speaker 1: doing fast food stuff the NFL is probably the last 875 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 1: thing on his mind at that point, right, It's about 876 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 1: how am I going to feed myself and get through 877 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 1: day to day? And he's been able to work himself 878 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 1: back in to shape to be an NFL player. Man, 879 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 1: I have nothing but respect for this young man. Some 880 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 1: have made the comp his game to Antoine Winfield. All right, 881 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 1: I'll take that one, like it, But you're right, he's 882 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 1: a little bit raw. Hasn't played that many games. It 883 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 1: didn't play that many games at Wazoo. But excited to 884 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 1: see this Kim, And we're gonna I might get t 885 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:40,320 Speaker 1: shirts made of tgs toads guys, you know, the special 886 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 1: team shirts, and have a spear right there. All right, 887 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 1: let's jump in to our final two draft picks and 888 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 1: our base ten edition of Defending the King. I know 889 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,359 Speaker 1: we're going along here, but we're having too much fun 890 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 1: because these ten guys excite the three of us to 891 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 1: no end. Now, let me just hearing my description of 892 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,360 Speaker 1: this guy five ten, two hundred and twenty two pounds 893 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 1: runs a four to three seven? Who am I describing? 894 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 1: Damian Williams. Damian Williams the run to immortality? Right, the 895 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: mirror Mason Marauder played at Oklahoma, was Juco for a while. 896 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,839 Speaker 1: I had that incredible run against Super Bowl fifty four. 897 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,879 Speaker 1: We remembered forever. He was five eleven two twenty four 898 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 1: and round of four to three seven. Isaiah Pacheco in 899 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,320 Speaker 1: the seventh round out of Rutgers five ten to twenty 900 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 1: two runs a four three seven shop. I'm starting with 901 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,240 Speaker 1: you here with Isaiah Pacheco. If you talk to anybody 902 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 1: at Rutgers, they're gonna talk and just talk a lot 903 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 1: about this kid in the positive sense. Man. You know, 904 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 1: I was drafted back in ninety eight and when a 905 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 1: member of my draft class was a guy named Skip Hicks. 906 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,719 Speaker 1: Came from UCLA. And to me, Skip Hicks his versatility, 907 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,879 Speaker 1: great hands to NASA's blocker, could find holes, had had 908 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,719 Speaker 1: instincts way beyond his years. When I watched film of 909 00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 1: this young man from Rutgers, he doesn't look like a 910 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,440 Speaker 1: college player. He looks like a pro player that's been 911 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,439 Speaker 1: put on the college field. And he has some things 912 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,279 Speaker 1: that you just can't coach. And I think if you 913 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 1: take that, you know that those rough edges and put 914 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 1: him in the room with coach b Enemy, put him 915 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,480 Speaker 1: in the room with coach Gregg and let our coaches 916 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,399 Speaker 1: kind of work with him. I mean, that's similar how 917 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,839 Speaker 1: we found Kareem Hunt. We found him in the same 918 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:22,919 Speaker 1: that same mold of a guy who was a little 919 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:27,239 Speaker 1: bit unappreciated, appreciated, a little bit disrespected by where he 920 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,720 Speaker 1: got drafted, but had all the talent in the world. 921 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,799 Speaker 1: Having him come to the Chiefs Kingdom and work with 922 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,920 Speaker 1: our coaches, I think we got a guy that could 923 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,759 Speaker 1: potentially be a very impactful player. Like you said, maybe 924 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,759 Speaker 1: the next run to immortality. When Demian Willam's when he 925 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,840 Speaker 1: signed with the Chiefs, it wasn't like a huge deal, 926 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,360 Speaker 1: like the red carpet wasn't rolled out, But you have 927 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,719 Speaker 1: those traits as physical tools and the mentality to go 928 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 1: out there and when he doesn't matter where you're drafted 929 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,799 Speaker 1: or if you're in big free agent signing. This gets 930 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,239 Speaker 1: a great example of that. I mean, you guys have 931 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,480 Speaker 1: said it already, but I love having a running back. 932 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,760 Speaker 1: It's over two hundred and fifteen pounds of basically all muscle. 933 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,839 Speaker 1: He takes his strength training really seriously. In the four 934 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 1: three seventh speed that was tied for the fastest forty 935 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 1: time of any running back with the combine, only Pierre 936 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,799 Speaker 1: Strong from South Dakota State was tied with him. So 937 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 1: super fast and one thing I like about him a 938 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 1: lot when reading about him is he is a good 939 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 1: pass blocker with upside as a pass blocker, He's willing 940 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 1: to do it. He has a strength to do it, 941 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,239 Speaker 1: the size to do it, and that's a big deal, 942 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,240 Speaker 1: particularly as a seventh round running back. With his speed 943 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 1: and his pass blocking upside, I think he has a 944 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,799 Speaker 1: lot of skills to be possibly a third down back 945 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,720 Speaker 1: on this team pretty early on. We'll see what happens, 946 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 1: but I like this pick a lot. I feel like 947 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 1: he's not your typical seventh rounder. He has a lot 948 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,160 Speaker 1: of skills. Like you watch him and you're like, this 949 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 1: kid should have been drafted earlier. I'm excited to watch 950 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 1: him in camp. Since twenty nineteen, the Chiefs have missed 951 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,919 Speaker 1: this guy that you know, we had the two hundred 952 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 1: five pound guy. This is two hundred and twenty two 953 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 1: pounds that runs four three seven. There's just an element 954 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,880 Speaker 1: to that that is fits into a you know, a 955 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:58,040 Speaker 1: new a piece. Here go find his tape against Syracuse. 956 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 1: It's the four minute offense Syracuse doesn't like Rutgers. Rutgers 957 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 1: doesn't like Syracuse. Rutgers is going to beat him in 958 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,879 Speaker 1: the carrier Dome. This dude has to carry it every time, 959 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 1: much like a Darryl Williams has done for the Chiefs 960 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 1: in the four minute offense. And just watch it. Find 961 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 1: it and you'll see why we're excited about Isaiah Pacheco, 962 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,280 Speaker 1: the running back out of Rutgers. All right, we close 963 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:21,960 Speaker 1: it out with the safety Nazi Johnson out of Marshall. 964 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 1: I'll start with you, Matt, because this guy looks like 965 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,799 Speaker 1: he ought to get a Tobe t shirt. Tobes guys right, 966 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,439 Speaker 1: put it on tip of the spear, using shops term. 967 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:33,399 Speaker 1: But another guy don't don't like write this cat off 968 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,200 Speaker 1: even though he's always the last guy at the ten. 969 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,799 Speaker 1: Tobe guy is definitely what This guy fits the bill 970 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,880 Speaker 1: assum if you look at what he's done at Marshall. 971 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 1: A five year starter at Marshall with a ton of experience. 972 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 1: He started forty five games in that time, ran a 973 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,880 Speaker 1: four three five forty at his pro day. So he's fast, 974 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 1: he's explosive, and also his attitude is lauded by all 975 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,920 Speaker 1: the draft experts. So if you're explosive, fast, You've experience, 976 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 1: so you're clearly smart and deserve to be out there. 977 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,239 Speaker 1: And also you have the right attitude. I had to 978 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:01,719 Speaker 1: go out there and play. I think that fits the 979 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 1: deal of a special teamer for sure. That maybe can 980 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,280 Speaker 1: develop into more, but I think right away Nazi Johnson 981 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:08,959 Speaker 1: will fit in on special teams in next some place 982 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 1: from Marshall Thundering Herd. He has to come in. I mean, 983 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 1: we have a good team. So being a seventh round pick, 984 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 1: the last pick of the draft, you're not coming in 985 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,840 Speaker 1: with a spot on this fifty three. You got to 986 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,719 Speaker 1: create a spot. You gotta come here with some with 987 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,400 Speaker 1: a little bit of edge thinking about I'm taking somebody 988 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,879 Speaker 1: else's job, and that's that's a tough That's a great 989 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 1: place to be in as an organization because we're not 990 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,080 Speaker 1: filling in a bunch of holes. We're adding extra depth. 991 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,160 Speaker 1: We're actually extra ingredients to the pantry just in case 992 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 1: we need somebody to come in and feel somebody roll 993 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:39,919 Speaker 1: through the injury or something like this. So this young 994 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 1: man has got to come in. I mean, he's got 995 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,759 Speaker 1: to play like the ground is on fire every day. 996 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,279 Speaker 1: He's got to be early for meetings. He gotta stay late, 997 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,400 Speaker 1: he's got to watch extra film. He's gonna have to 998 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,200 Speaker 1: do some some really unique things in training camp just 999 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,160 Speaker 1: to be on our fifty three. Because we have so 1000 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,319 Speaker 1: many great players already here, so we're in a great 1001 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 1: position to be in. Hey man, this young man, he's listen, 1002 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,000 Speaker 1: he's gonna come in. He's gonna for him, he's gonna play. 1003 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 1: But hey man, we ain't get room for everybody on 1004 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,279 Speaker 1: the ship, and so this young man better better get it, 1005 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,360 Speaker 1: get it going in the right direction very early and 1006 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,680 Speaker 1: often and opening people's eyes, making plays no matter what 1007 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,960 Speaker 1: situation it is. That rookie camp for him, when it's 1008 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,960 Speaker 1: just a rookie's out there for those first few days, 1009 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,440 Speaker 1: if he doesn't open up some really big eyes at 1010 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,840 Speaker 1: that moment, he might get lost in the shuffle. But 1011 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 1: but you know, I call him croc pod guys. This 1012 00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 1: guy's a croc pod guy. Because the expanded practice squads, 1013 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,759 Speaker 1: you now can develop guys. This guy put in the 1014 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 1: croc pot, slow cook him. Think of the best meals 1015 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,560 Speaker 1: you've had they have been slow cook. Yeah, and you 1016 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,840 Speaker 1: develop guys. It's been a big part of the Chiefs 1017 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,920 Speaker 1: nine years of winning here going into a tenth year 1018 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,479 Speaker 1: under Andy Reid. All right, real quick, we'll just close 1019 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 1: it out with a quick synopsis of your thoughts of 1020 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,759 Speaker 1: the base ten the draft class of twenty twenty two. 1021 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 1: We entered this draft talking about what an opportunity it 1022 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,720 Speaker 1: was to get some great talent and some great value. 1023 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,120 Speaker 1: Not very often as a team that has the resume 1024 00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,799 Speaker 1: of the Kansas City Chiefs have this many picks in 1025 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:06,280 Speaker 1: a draft, particularly picks high in a draft. Well, reviewing 1026 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,680 Speaker 1: it now, and we won't know the success of this 1027 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,000 Speaker 1: draft for at least a year, right, but reviewing it now, 1028 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,960 Speaker 1: looking at what experts thought about certain players, the Chiefs 1029 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:18,360 Speaker 1: came away with the following players on the Pro Football 1030 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,800 Speaker 1: Focus big Board, the number ten overall player, number eleven, 1031 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,520 Speaker 1: number twenty two, number thirty six, number seventy one, number 1032 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:29,000 Speaker 1: seventy nine, and number one seventeen. Think about all that 1033 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 1: young talent entering this locker room, and I can't wait 1034 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,360 Speaker 1: to see how they look in rookie mini camp this 1035 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 1: weekend and during OTA's in the weeks to follow, and 1036 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,839 Speaker 1: of course training camp. But this was a great opportunity 1037 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,000 Speaker 1: for the Chiefs to go out there and grab a 1038 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,480 Speaker 1: bunch of really good young players and put them on 1039 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,000 Speaker 1: this team. And I think they achieve that and I 1040 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:48,799 Speaker 1: can't wait to see how it plays out. But at 1041 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 1: least today, Monday, after the draft, I feel great about 1042 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,799 Speaker 1: this class man's I hope these guys come in with 1043 00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,279 Speaker 1: the mind said did they've expressed to us, even just 1044 00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,360 Speaker 1: in the videos and the draft day video a draft fest, 1045 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,799 Speaker 1: that same energy and excitement. It wasn't it wasn't fabricated. 1046 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,880 Speaker 1: These guys love football, and we got this chance to 1047 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,680 Speaker 1: really see guys coming at an early age. These young 1048 00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,839 Speaker 1: guys are gonna just an injection of energy is gonna 1049 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,759 Speaker 1: be putting this defense. And I think you know, if 1050 00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,600 Speaker 1: you look back, our defense was getting a little bit old. 1051 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 1: These guys are coming in young, fun, hungry, smart, tough, 1052 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:26,880 Speaker 1: all those uh those those intangibles that you need to 1053 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,560 Speaker 1: have a growing defense is gonna be good, not just 1054 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,200 Speaker 1: this year but for years to come. So of seven 1055 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:35,920 Speaker 1: of ten picks to be on the defensive side of 1056 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,200 Speaker 1: the ball. As a linement of that, man, I'm in 1057 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:39,920 Speaker 1: I'm in heaven right now. I want to see all 1058 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,880 Speaker 1: of these seven guys developed. But then on the offense, 1059 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:46,000 Speaker 1: we got some guys that can also contribute year one. 1060 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,759 Speaker 1: And that's what It's the beautiful thing about the organization 1061 00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 1: like ours. We don't need to ever rebuild. We just retool. 1062 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:54,640 Speaker 1: We just retool and just keep coming at you at 1063 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,040 Speaker 1: different ways. We got some really creative minds on both sides, 1064 00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,919 Speaker 1: all three phases of the ball. And I think all 1065 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:02,520 Speaker 1: of these weapons we have to use is gonna be 1066 00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,560 Speaker 1: a phenomenal twenty twenty two season for the Kansity Seas 1067 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:09,239 Speaker 1: will close this way. Draft Fest was over on Saturday. 1068 00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,719 Speaker 1: Matt saw me backstage. We're kind of tired, right, But 1069 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,440 Speaker 1: I just sat in that chair after being around those 1070 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,160 Speaker 1: five guys that are on that stage, and thought, oh 1071 00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,520 Speaker 1: my goodness, what do we have here. If these guys 1072 00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,399 Speaker 1: can perform at the level we think they can, this 1073 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,800 Speaker 1: could be a class that can remembered for years and years. 1074 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,759 Speaker 1: So go back to two defending the Kingdoms ago when 1075 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:37,040 Speaker 1: we did volume, value and victory. This crew is the 1076 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 1: epitome to me, the definition of volume and value. And 1077 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,320 Speaker 1: I'll throw another one in Veach. Let's get bread Beach 1078 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,600 Speaker 1: in the GM of the Chiefs and all of his staff, 1079 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,040 Speaker 1: all of wish we could mention them all an incredible 1080 00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:52,480 Speaker 1: job with the base ten. Not just the mathematical system 1081 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,200 Speaker 1: that you live with every day, but the base ten 1082 00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,360 Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty two Kansas City Chiefs NFL Draft. 1083 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:03,719 Speaker 1: They base for the future. Time to touch down, all 1084 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:20,880 Speaker 1: get down, and the celebration begins to their head.