WEBVTT - Rob Dial: Want to Actually Achieve Your Goals in 2026? Use THIS Action-Based Goal System to Get Back on Track (Even If You Fall Off!) 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.400 Most people are focused on the result based call, which is, 0:00:02.440 --> 0:00:04.640 when I lose forty pounds, then I will have hit 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:06.560 my goal. That is a result. You still set the 0:00:06.600 --> 0:00:08.560 result base goal. But then what you do is you 0:00:08.600 --> 0:00:11.440 create something that's called daily action based goals. As long 0:00:11.480 --> 0:00:13.400 as I get these things done every single day, it 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:15.080 is a success. Hi. 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:17.759 Everyone, welcome back to On Purpose, the place you come 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:21.560 to become happier, healthier, and more healed today. My guest 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:25.200 is a dear friend, Rob Doll, leading mindset coach and 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:28.160 the host of the Mindset Mentor podcast. If you haven't 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:31.840 subscribed to his make sure you do, helping millions rewired 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:35.519 their thoughts and their habits. If you're feeling stuck, unmotivated, 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:38.959 or just don't know where to start, this conversation will 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:41.600 show you how to finally get out of your own 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:45.360 way and achieve the life you've always wanted. Please welcome 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:47.280 back to the show one of your favorites and my 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:50.080 good friend, Rob Dah. Rob, it's great to have you back. 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:52.040 Hey, I'm so excited to be here. Man. I love 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:52.920 being here with you. Dude. 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:54.960 The last time you were here, our episode just crush 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:58.560 like people loved it. The comments were crazy, views were awesome. 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:00.800 I just love how cut you are. 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:01.319 Thank you. 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:06.240 There's no bs. It's really practical, pragmatic advice. Anyone can 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:08.760 do it. You don't have to have a starting point 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:11.680 of money or followers or success, and I think that 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:14.480 lands really well. The first question I have for you 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:19.319 is what can someone today listening do to be ahead 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:20.600 of ninety nine percent of people? 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:25.600 H I think the main thing that people can do 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:27.679 if they want to be ahead, depending on what a 0:01:27.720 --> 0:01:30.520 head means to them, is I think that they can 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:34.520 develop their discipline within themselves. I think that one thing 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:36.880 that I've become really obsessed with over the past couple 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:39.760 of years is thinking about the idea of discipline, because 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:42.800 I think discipline has a very bad connotation, like if 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:45.480 if somebody does something wrong, then they're disciplined, or a 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:47.760 dog's supposed to be doing something wrong, you discipline a 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:51.120 child discipline. But I think that the connotation that we 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:55.520 have with discipline is actually incorrect. I think discipline, if 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:59.000 used correctly, is possibly the greatest form of self love, 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:04.000 because you don't have to have any discipline to do 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:07.520 something that's not good for you. So if you want to, 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:10.600 you know, sleep in every single day of your life. 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:11.959 You don't have to have discipline for that. If you 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:13.519 don't want to go to the gym, you don't have 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:15.399 to discipline for that. If you want to just eat 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:17.280 the crappiest food that's out there, you don't need discipline 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:19.320 for it. But if you want to wake up earlier, 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:22.520 you want to you know, make sales calls, grow a business, 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:25.200 if you want to get your body in the healthiest 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:28.240 shape you possibly can, you need discipline for it. And 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:31.639 discipline is always needed for something that is good for you. 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:33.880 And so the thing that I think people need to 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:36.840 do is they need to develop a different relationship with 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:39.440 discipline so that they don't think I'm doing this because 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:42.239 I hate myself, because something's wrong, or because whatever it 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:45.760 might be. It's I'm going to become a more disciplined 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:50.400 person because I love myself so much. And for me, like, 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:53.000 I wasn't a disciplined person at all before I developed, 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:55.480 you know, got into self development. I was, you know, 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:57.920 number one was I was a surfer. I was a stoner. 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:00.000 I did a bunch of drugs, did a bunch of partying. 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:05.600 I slept in, made excuses, never made any money, never 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:08.280 really had a whole lot of happiness. And then when 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:10.760 I was nineteen years old, I got into a sales 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:13.000 company and I learned, Okay, if I'm going to sit 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:16.400 down and make phone calls, hundreds of phone calls to 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:18.399 people who have no clue that I'm about to call 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:22.160 them every single day, I need to be disciplined. And 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:24.200 it was it was a thing of Okay, I know 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:27.640 what my life could be if I take this action, 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:30.880 and my life will be better if I take this action. 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:33.160 I don't want to take this action, but I know 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:34.800 that my life will be better if I take this action. 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:37.000 So I'm going to take this action because I know 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:40.360 future me will thank me for it. And what's really 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:42.240 cool about discipline, there's a whole lot of science and 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:44.600 neuroscience has been found there's a part of your brain 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:49.000 called the interior mid singulate cortex, which is basically where 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:52.080 they're thinking that discipline and willpower come from. And so 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:55.800 like for people who are athletes, like professional athletes, they 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:59.240 have a larger than average interior mid singular cortext than 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:02.200 the average person, not because they were born that way, 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:04.640 but because of the fact that they grew it. It's 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:06.200 like a muscle inside of you know, you want to 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:07.960 work your biceps. If you just do a whole bunch 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:11.160 of curls, your biceps are going to get bigger. It 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:13.600 works the exact same thing with the way with this 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:15.800 part of your brain. So they have found that people 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:20.120 who have very little discipline, very little willpower people who 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:23.000 are you know, extremely obese. That they found I have 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:26.039 a small mid interior singular cortex, but if they start 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:28.280 working out and doing things that they don't want to do, 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:30.400 but things that are good for them, that part of 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:33.080 their brain actually grows. And so I think if people 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:35.400 need to figure out how do I get ahead of 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:37.880 other people, the thing that I think is, well, what 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:41.200 is everybody else doing? And do the exact opposite. Most 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:43.159 people are hanging out on their phone, They're not doing 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:45.640 a whole lot. And so I'm looking at that and going, well, 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:47.160 I'm going to do the exact opposite. I'm going to 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:48.359 do the things I don't want to do that I 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:49.720 know they're good for me. I'm going to develop a 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:52.719 different relationship with discipline. I'm going to be more consistent 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:55.040 in everything that I do. And I think if people 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:57.160 just do that for a long enough period, of time, 0:04:57.800 --> 0:04:59.520 then their entire life is going to change. 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:03.160 Yeah, I can agree more. And I think what you're 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:07.880 getting at is that discipline is the ability to choose discomfort. Yes, 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:11.159 when your mind and brain want to do the easy. 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:12.120 Thing, we always want comfort. 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:14.760 We always want comfort. And I think that's partly the 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:17.160 challenge where I think anyone who's listening right now will 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:19.320 go Rob, You're right. I know I need to wake 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:22.640 up early. I know my phone distracts me. I know 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:24.479 I want to work out. I know I want to 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:26.120 build my business. I know I want to get better 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:29.400 at sales. I know that, but I can't do it. 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:32.200 And I try, and maybe I do it for three days, 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:34.760 and then I fall off again. And I get this 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:38.200 a lot. I travel a time, I work crazy. Even 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:40.719 last night I was messaging a friend and I'm literally 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:44.799 flying to next week. I'm flying to Australia for one day. 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:47.479 I'll be there for twelve hours and I'm coming back 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:50.679 because i have something that I'm excited for, work, my friend, 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:52.680 and then I'll go back to work the next day 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:55.279 after I land here, and I'll work out and do 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:57.400 everything all over again. And my friend was like to me, 0:05:57.440 --> 0:05:58.560 how do you do it like, how do you not 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:01.840 get burnt out? And there were two answers. One was 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:05.200 everything is dedicated to the craft, So my whole life 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:07.440 is structured in a way that I can do that. 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:10.080 That means I sleep on time, when I'm fully in control, 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:12.719 I work out five days a week, I eat right. 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:17.120 There's discipline that then allows me to do things that 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:21.560 sound crazy but then still recover because the supplements and 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:24.200 everything are in place. And yes, everything is dedicated to 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:27.280 the craft, which I love. The second part of it 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:30.719 is is that I'm good at also saying no to 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:34.520 things that maybe I even want to do that might 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:37.359 be fun and laid back, but because the craft is 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:41.680 the priority right now, I'm willing to forego. So when 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:44.080 you hear that, someone would say, well, Jay, that sounds 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:45.920 boring because you're just living your life in that way, 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:47.640 and I'm like, well, no, this is meaningful to me. 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:50.360 But I guess the biggest challenge people have is, Jay, 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:52.600 I know that I want to do that, but I 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:54.640 don't have to change my habits. I don't know how 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:56.440 to build that. What would you say to that person? 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:58.480 Yeah, one of the things that I say is I 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:00.000 have this phrase where I just say, shrink the store 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:02.160 of something. So there's a couple aspects of it. The 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:04.360 first thing is, if you want to do something, it's 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:07.520 easier to make the start of it as as short 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:09.880 as you possibly can. So, like, let's say that I 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:13.160 don't want to go running in the morning, but I 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:15.120 know that I do want to go running in the 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:17.960 morning for the betterment of me, Well, then how can 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:21.120 I make it? Knowing that humans resist change as much 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:24.040 as possible, and if it takes more than fifteen seconds 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:25.640 to do it, a lot of times we won't do it. 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:27.720 So if it's like I'm going to shrink the start 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:30.440 of making myself go for a run in the morning, 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:32.560 so I know every morning I wake up and I 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:34.480 brush my teeth, you know, go to the bathroom, I 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:35.880 get water, I brush my teeth. That's what I do. 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:38.280 Then I'm going to take my running clothes and I'm 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:40.840 going to put them right next to the sink, and 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:43.080 if I really want to shrink the start, go to 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:45.440 bed with them on. You know, if you're waking up 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:47.720 early and you want a cup of coffee, the thing 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:49.040 that you want to do is make sure that you 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:52.080 get a coffee maker that has an automatic timer on 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:55.440 it so that by the time I'm done walking out 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:58.720 of my room and into the kitchen, my coffee's already made, 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:00.800 there's already water next to it. I just got to 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:02.280 throw my shoes on. So it's like, how do I 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:05.320 shrink the start? Because we're going to resist doing something, 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:07.720 how do I shrink the start? Is the first part 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:10.000 of it to make it easier for me to do 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:13.160 the other side of it as well. And I've known 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:15.880 you now for you know, nine years. You work like this. 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:19.440 You work, dude, but you are so passionate about what 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:21.679 you do. And that's the other thing I think people 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:24.800 need to realize is is it's really hard to force 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:26.680 yourself to do something that you don't want to do. 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:30.800 And if you think about this, I know that when 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:34.040 I worked jobs that I hated, that didn't feel like 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:38.439 it was my life purpose, it used way more energy 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:42.600 physical but especially mental energy to get myself up in 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:45.800 the morning, to have to take a shower, to wear 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:49.440 a suit, to drive thirty minutes stuck in traffic with 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:51.160 a bunch of other people who are pissed off, honking 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:53.160 at each other, to go to a job for eight 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:55.560 or nine hours that I didn't enjoy it all to 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:58.120 go back home and sit in that traffic again and 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:00.720 then go and eat some food and watch some TV 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:02.360 and know that that I'm going to have to do 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:05.640 that every day, work day for the next forty years 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:08.560 of my life. Do you know much physical but mental 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:11.400 energy that takes from a human like, it's so much? 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:13.520 And so if you think about it, does it require 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:15.560 energy for you to hop on the plane and go 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:17.520 there for twelve hours and then come back here and 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:20.439 work and then do your workout? Do this require energy? Yes? 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:23.200 But I would venturely say because it's something that you love, 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:27.120 it actually gives you energy more than it strips energy 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:28.960 from you. When you're doing something that you don't enjoy, 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:32.040 it steals energy from you. I saw a quote one time, 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:34.520 and it was something I'm changing it around a little bit, 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:36.280 but I can't remember exactly what it was, but it 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:40.120 was something like, if you do something that is out 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:42.920 of alignment with what your purpose is in this world, 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:45.200 you will have to come up with the energy for that. 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:48.160 If you do something that is in alignment with what 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:50.280 you're supposed to be doing in this world, the universe 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:52.960 will provide the energy for you. And like for me, 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:55.560 I know one hundred percent when we get done with 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:58.880 this podcast episode, I will have more energy then I 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:01.320 did when I first walked in this Why because this 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:03.680 is the thing that I think that I was made 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:06.640 to do, and I am so passionate about that, and 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:08.840 it gives me energy, and I will have more energy 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:10.719 throughout the entire day because I'm doing something that I 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:13.280 actually love. And so I think that for people, if 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:15.400 you're trying to be disciplined, number one, you can shrink 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:17.560 the start, But number two, it's like, if you're trying 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:19.600 to force yourself to do something that you don't love 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:22.360 and something that doesn't or just something that doesn't feel 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:25.079 in alignment with who you are, it's going to require 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:28.000 way more force than anything else. 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:31.400 I think it's also important with what you're saying as well, 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:35.160 is that I was working this hard on what I 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:37.640 love around the time we met. So Rob and I 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:40.880 have known each other now for nine years, eight nine 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:45.480 years something like that, and when I met Rob, I 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:48.120 would say I was starting to work hard. I didn't. 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:50.480 I wasn't as busy as I am now and productive 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:52.840 as I am now. I was starting to work what 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:56.400 I thought was hard then. But I wasn't disciplined in 0:10:56.440 --> 0:11:01.439 my personal habits beyond meditation. I wasn't disciplined my physical wellness, 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:05.680 so my dire my workout like that wasn't locked in. 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:09.480 Sleep and meditation have always been two things that I've prioritized, 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:12.880 and I realized at one point in my life that 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:16.760 I either had to slow down or I had to 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:19.520 invest in my health. So I had two choices. I 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:22.240 either had to slow down, because when you're not eating right, 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:24.000 and you're not sleeping right, and you're not working out, 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:25.920 and you're not meditating, you're not doing all the things, 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:29.079 then I can't keep up at this pace. It's actually impossible. 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:32.280 I'll kill myself because you're pushing yourself so hard. But 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:34.200 when you're doing all those things, you realize you can 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:35.800 do more. So I had that choice, and I don't 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:38.199 think there's a right answer to that choice. I think 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:39.880 investing in your health there's always a good idea and 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:42.400 you can still slow down. For me, it was okay, well, 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:45.320 let's see how high I can perform, and putting all 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:47.040 that time and energy to do that has helped me. 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:49.360 Now it does get to a certain point in the 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:51.680 year where I'm like all right, Yeah, I'm you know, 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:54.280 I think I pushed it this year, like I'm good, yeah, 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:56.080 and then I take a month off for Christmas now, 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:58.280 so I'm very you know, look forward to that. But 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:00.600 the reason I got into that was to ask you 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:05.160 this question of when people don't have what they love 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:08.320 and we've been there before. You just talked about you 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:10.840 as I've been there before. When you're actually doing a 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:13.760 job that you don't love, don't enjoy what you do, 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:17.320 is there any way to bring energy and get energy 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:17.720 from it? 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:20.120 It can be. I mean, there's if it depends on 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:21.920 if somebody's like, oh, I absolutely hate my job, I 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:24.199 hate my boss, I hate everything about my life. I 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:26.160 think that's you know, that's where you just need to go. 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:29.640 All right. If you're thirty five years old, you say 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:31.760 you're forty years old, you're forty years old, and you're like, 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:33.920 I've built this life that I'm just not necessarily in 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:36.600 love with. Well, if you, you know, are lucky enough 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:40.000 to live to eighty years old, then life one was 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:43.360 the first forty years of your life. Life two starts 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:47.040 this moment, like, you have another forty years. Is it 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:50.000 going to be easy to make massive changes in your life. No, 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:52.320 are you gonna have to say no to things that 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:54.960 you've been saying yes to for a really long time. Yeah, 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:56.520 you're gonna have to say no to things. And when 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:58.600 you're saying no to something, you're saying yes to other things. 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:01.440 And so if you're in that situation, it's kind of 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:04.600 like just a whole uprooting of things. And for me, 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:08.559 I'd rather invest a year, two years, three years uprooting 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:11.840 things for another thirty seven years of happiness and joy 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:15.400 and fulfillment. But on the other side of that, you know, 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:19.440 I think that people have a kind of like a 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:22.959 misconception of what a purpose or passion is. Sometimes I 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:25.560 think it's really important for people to take a step 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:27.559 back and be like, well, if there was a reason 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:30.040 why I was alive and I was supposed to discover 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:32.600 what that reason is, what is it? And I always 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:34.640 tell people it's okay if you are listening to this 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:36.960 podcast right now and you don't know what your purpose is, 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:40.280 But it's not okay if you're in that situation to 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:43.040 wake up every single day and not try to find 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:46.400 what your purpose is. And your purpose does not have 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:49.320 to be your paycheck. I'm lucky enough where it is 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:51.040 you're lucky enough for it is. There's some people that 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:53.000 are lucky enough for it is. But a purpose could 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:55.200 be something that you do outside of your paycheck, and 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:58.560 you use your paycheck to invest into that purpose, whether 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:01.560 it's a hobby or whatever might be. And so I 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:04.000 think people get that wrong. And then another aspect of 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:06.760 purpose that people get wrong is that I think most 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:09.800 people are trying to find something that they're going to 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:13.000 do until the day they die. And that's that's a 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:15.480 lot of pressure. You know, hopefully I lived like one 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:17.079 hundred years old. I means they got on there sixty 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:19.120 one years. I'd find something I'm gonna do for sixty 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:20.800 one years and love every single day. That's a lot 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:22.960 of pressure. So what I think people need to actually 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:25.400 start looking at themselves as I always use an example 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:27.760 of like a hummingbird. Right, if you have ever watched 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:30.400 a hummingbird, they go from one flower, they're there for 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:32.520 a few seconds, they get the next flower, they're at 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:35.200 the next flower. I think people should kind of act 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:38.280 like a hummingbird where they say, Okay, what am I 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:40.760 really interested in in the next two or three years, 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:43.280 and I'm just gonna that's what my focus is going 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:45.400 to be. What's what do I love to do that 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:47.480 I haven't done in a while, what interests me that 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:49.080 I haven't spent a lot of time, or what's something 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:51.760 I really want to learn about more? And then I'll 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:53.640 just follow that thing. And what's really interesting is when 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:56.480 people kind of follow and the hummingbird thing for ten 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:58.760 years and they go from one thing to another thing, 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:00.760 and they have let's say it's undred fifteen years, they 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:04.320 have three or five things they've tried. The universe has 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:08.200 this beautiful way of working where those things eventually usually 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:11.560 line up to find what their purpose is, and they 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:15.200 needed every single step to get there. So like for me, 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:17.120 you know, if I think about when I was nineteen 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:19.560 years old, I got into sales. I got into sales 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:21.840 because I wanted to be a psychologist. And I got 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:24.440 into sales and went, oh my god, this is psychology 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:26.400 in front of me and I'm learning it. And then 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:28.320 I started managing people. I was like, this is even 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:30.360 more psychology. I need to fix myself so I can 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:32.160 help these people out. So it was all of this 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:35.480 psychology and I, you know, sales was just the kind 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:38.760 of the vehicle to make me learn psychology. Then I 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:42.000 started managing people and realizing like how much people hold 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:44.400 themselves back. They're like, I want to make phone calls, 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:46.280 but I'm not doing it. And I was like, oh, 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:48.720 this is really interesting to be at this moment and 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:51.200 to see this, Why are you not making Why are 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:53.160 you not doing something you want to do? Right? So 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:55.200 I started becoming obsessed with that, like you have so 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:58.080 much potential in you, why are you not doing it? 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:01.840 Then I got out of that and I went into 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:03.840 corporate sales for a little while, I started to manage people. 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:06.640 I got into corporate sales, and then in twenty seventeen, 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:08.640 I was like, I'm going to quit my job because 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:10.360 I don't love what I do. I'm going to travel 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:12.640 Europe for six months. And I traveled Europe US she 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:15.280 was three months. I went for three months. In twenty 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:19.640 twenty twelve is when I went and backpacked Europe by myself. 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:21.760 Twenty seventeen, I backpacked my wife for six months. But 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:24.440 and then I realized, oh my god, like I really 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:26.760 love traveling, and I have to figure out some sort 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:29.640 of way to make money so online so I'm not 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:31.840 stuck to a place, so I can do this and 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:33.320 I can go and I can do whatever I want. 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:35.200 Then I was like, I'm going to move to a 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:37.120 place because I thought I wanted to be a musician. 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:39.760 I had all the recording equipment, I had the microphone, 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:41.360 all this stuff. I was like, I'm going to move 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:43.600 to a city where there's it's a music city, I 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:45.440 could try to become a musician. So I moved to 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:48.880 Austin and I had all the record equipment. I was 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:51.440 there for a couple of years, tried out music. Realize 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:53.200 I'm not that good, Like I'm just very passionate. I 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:55.360 love it. I'm okay, but I'm not like, oh my god, 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:57.520 this guy's going to be a star. And then I 0:16:57.560 --> 0:16:59.600 was like one day I was sitting in a place 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:02.320 called g Since Deli, this chain, and I was with 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:04.239 my girlfriend at the time, my now wife, and I 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:06.800 was like, I had this feeling of like I feel 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:09.400 like I have so much knowledge from books that I've 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:11.919 read and from working on myself for so long. Then 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:14.359 this is twenty fifteen, so we're talking nine years I've 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:16.720 been working on myself. Right, I was like, they must 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:19.399 start a podcast. And I had this idea and I 0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:21.480 was like, that feels right, like that feels like the 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:23.879 right thing to do now, mind you, I had all 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:26.480 of the recording equipment to be able to do so. 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:29.480 I had been doing songwriting for a really long time, 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:32.359 so I had become obsessed with taking words and making 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:35.760 taking a line and making it as valuable as I 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:38.879 possibly could in that one sentence that I could come 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:42.119 up with. So I had music. I had all this 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:44.440 stuff to be able to set up and record a podcast. 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:47.040