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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody.

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Speaker 2: Thursday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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Speaker 2: starts right now.

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Speaker 1: A lot going on.

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Speaker 2: We've got protests continuing as we said they would. UCLA

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Speaker 2: they had pepper spray deployed. Things getting messy over at

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Speaker 2: the campus on the west coast. Here on the east coast, Columbia,

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Speaker 2: NYPD breaks it up.

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Speaker 1: A lot going on there.

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Speaker 2: There's some movement on Capitol Hill about an anti Semitism

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Speaker 2: bill that we should certainly discuss the needs of the

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Speaker 2: UCLA protesters. Fascinating, fascinating document. Yes, a lot of vegan

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Speaker 2: and gluten free requests, but understand they're largely gluten free

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Speaker 2: out of choice, Clay, they don't have Celiac disease like

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Speaker 2: some of us. For some of us, it's not a choice.

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Speaker 2: But there's something else that's happened just in the last

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Speaker 2: hour I want to jump right into, and that is

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden, who yes, is technically the President of the

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Speaker 2: United States. He addressed the American people. It was short,

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Speaker 2: it was not sweet. We want you to hear some

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Speaker 2: of this. This is cut one play it.

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Speaker 3: We are not an authoritarian nation where we silence people

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Speaker 3: are squashed, descent American people are heard. In fact, peaceful

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Speaker 3: protests is in the best tradition of how Americans respond

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Speaker 3: to consequential issues. But neither are we a lawless country.

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Speaker 3: We are a civil society. An order must prevail for

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Speaker 3: aut our history. We've often faced moments like this because

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Speaker 3: we are a big, diverse, freethinking and freedom loving nation,

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Speaker 3: and moments like this there are always those who rush

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Speaker 3: in to score political points. But this isn't a moment

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Speaker 3: for politics. It's a moment for clarity. So let me

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Speaker 3: be clear. Peaceful protest in America. Violent protest is not protected.

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Speaker 3: Peaceful protest is.

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Speaker 1: Clay.

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Speaker 2: Let me just say, the notion that we need a

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Speaker 2: reminder here about a peaceful protest is absurd. Nobody would care.

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Speaker 2: We all know that there would be no interest in

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Speaker 2: any of this in terms of the new cycle and

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Speaker 2: everything else, if they were just showing up in the

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Speaker 2: quad as they do countless times and do everything in

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Speaker 2: their power to get attention for themselves with their stupid

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Speaker 2: slogans and whatever the cause of the day may be.

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Speaker 2: The issue here is they have decided to choose violence, disorder,

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Speaker 2: and destruction. They have decided that they are going to

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Speaker 2: break the law. But Biden so weak on this. Here's

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Speaker 2: the thing. He's trying some both sides ism, right, like,

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, this saw I needs peaceful protests that so

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Speaker 2: it needs to be respectful. I was thinking about this

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Speaker 2: when he was speaking just last hour or so. What

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Speaker 2: would we advise him to say at this point if

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Speaker 2: we were Joe Biden right, think about it this way.

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Speaker 2: He can't say what is clearly moral and what needs

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Speaker 2: to be said, which is this stuff is crazy. Stop

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Speaker 2: breaking the law, Stop acting like spoiled children, Stop being

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Speaker 2: anti Semites, because he'll lose some portion of his base,

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Speaker 2: the left and also the anti Semitic pro Palestinian movement

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Speaker 2: in this country.

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Speaker 1: He needs them.

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Speaker 2: So what does he say. He kind of does what

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Speaker 2: he did, which is really say almost nothing.

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Speaker 1: Nothing. We need to hear.

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Speaker 4: Racism is bad, protest is good, but violent protests that

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Speaker 4: breaks the law is unacceptable. That's essentially what he came

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Speaker 4: out and said after ten days of silence. And what

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Speaker 4: this said to me is the polling must be awful

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Speaker 4: on this and they must be concerned that this is

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Speaker 4: not going away anytime soon. Because immediately the protesters showed

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Speaker 4: back up at Columbia after the NYPD went in, I

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Speaker 4: don't know how many of you have seen this. We

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Speaker 4: need to put it up On clayanbuck dot com. I

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Speaker 4: shared a picture that was taken by one of the

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Speaker 4: Fox News reporters, and Bream shared it of the main

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Speaker 4: quad George Washington Statue at George Washington University where they

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Speaker 4: now have put I don't know, a burka basically a

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Speaker 4: headdress on the George Washington statue and defaced it. And

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Speaker 4: this is the Father of the country and it's about

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Speaker 4: seven or eight blocks from the White House. Biden was

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Speaker 4: also asked whether the National Guard should be called in.

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Speaker 4: He said no. He was also asked whether this changed

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Speaker 4: anything about his position on what's going on in Israel

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Speaker 4: And I think this is what ultimately has to happen.

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Speaker 4: But the Identity politics coalition is untenable, and a part

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Speaker 4: of me feels like the only way that this gets

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Speaker 4: picks a side, and he should pick Israel because they're

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Speaker 4: break this into good and bad, good and evil. I

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Speaker 4: don't think there's a very difficult choice to make. But

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Speaker 4: in making that choice, he would lose the state of Michigan.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's the calculus. That's why Clay I

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Speaker 4: he can't make everybody happy here. He is saying that

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Speaker 4: there is no place in America for anti Semitism or

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Speaker 4: hate against Palestinians.

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Speaker 1: Play two.

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Speaker 3: Let's be clear about this as well. There should be

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Speaker 3: no place in any campus, no place in America for

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Speaker 3: is no place for hate speech or violence of any kind,

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Speaker 3: whether it's anti Semitism, Islamophobia, or discrimination against Arab Americans

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Speaker 3: or Palestinian Americans. It's simply wrong. There's no place for

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Speaker 3: racism in America. It's all wrong. It's not America.

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Speaker 2: He's just fabricating all of this. What is he talking about.

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Speaker 2: There's some surge in Islamophobia all of a sudden. I mean,

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Speaker 2: movement to delegitimize Israel and the Jewish people. And that's

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Speaker 2: coming at a time when they're still reeling from the

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Speaker 2: horrific attack of October seventh. They're nine to eleven, and

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Speaker 2: now we have to hear whining about whining about the

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Speaker 2: Palestinian plight or something Palestinian American plight. Where is this

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Speaker 2: bigotry that they speak of. I mean, on the one hand,

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Speaker 2: you can see that Biden realizes that the situation is

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Speaker 2: hurting Democrats. But on the other this is what they've

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Speaker 2: been building to for a long time. It's not like

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Speaker 2: this just happens suddenly on Joe Biden's watch. There's been

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Speaker 2: a lot of anti semitism on campus. The Palestinian cause

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Speaker 2: was in college. I remember there were pro Palastinian protests.

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Speaker 2: It's just now, given the mass casualty attack of October

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Speaker 2: to calm things down now. No, I mean, one side

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Speaker 2: acted monstrously and the other side is responding to it. Clay,

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Speaker 2: here we have Biden doing the both sides. Oh, we

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Speaker 2: going to work right now. People aren't going to accept this.

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Speaker 4: Well, he's doing what he accused Trump of doing at Charlottesville.

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Speaker 4: When Trump said there were very fine people on both

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Speaker 4: the Roberty Lea statue there, and the media turned it

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Speaker 4: was a very dishonest editing. Biden relied on that dishonesty

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Speaker 4: as the foundation of his decision to run for president

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Speaker 4: of the United States, And if we had a truly

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Speaker 4: being a complete failure of the basis upon which Joe

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Speaker 4: if not thousands of Charlottesville's taking place right now, and

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Speaker 4: Biden said he was running to restore the soul of

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Speaker 4: the nation. Does anybody think the soul of the nation

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Speaker 4: is strong when Jewish kids at UCLA are not allowed

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Speaker 4: being raised on places like the University of North Carolina

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Speaker 4: and I look at it and I just say, Biden

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Speaker 4: a good question for you because you've been a Republican

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Speaker 4: That's the calculus I think they have come to in

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Speaker 4: It's not what is your skin color, what is your ethnicity?

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Speaker 4: Now you have to believe the following things. But other

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Speaker 4: people who also have different skin colors and ethnicities will

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Speaker 4: be told they are victims, and you will come together

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Speaker 4: we don't have a situation that is in any way

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Speaker 1: And this comes from covering the.

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Speaker 2: Occupy Wall Street BLM. It's all the same, not only

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Speaker 2: the same nonsense. In a lot of ways, some of

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Speaker 2: the same people you're seeing these protesters.

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Speaker 4: Quote a three year old chick like that that is

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Speaker 2: For those of you who didn't, I read an article

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Speaker 2: these protests who have never helped anyone, who never go

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Speaker 1: The whole thing is.

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Speaker 2: Really a like a like a bacchanal of narcissism. It's

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Speaker 2: Even Biden himself, this is the end of his mini presser,

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Speaker 2: which is I think the best he could manage this

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Speaker 2: cut three. He's like, oh yeah, I'm not actually going

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Speaker 2: to change anything in the Middle East. So just so

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Speaker 2: you know, play three.

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Speaker 5: Mister, the protests forced you to reconsider any of the

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Speaker 6: Do you think the National Guard should intervene?

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I mean he said to the national Guard.

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Speaker 2: Put that aside for a second. He's not going to

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Speaker 2: And so then you get to the best thing I

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Speaker 1: Well, a couple of good things. One.

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Speaker 2: I think it's helping Republicans, I really do. I think

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Speaker 2: this is showing people the craziness and they don't have

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Speaker 2: all It's not BLM. You don't have the white guilt

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Speaker 2: But beyond that, BLM had really negative consequences for the country.

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Speaker 2: I think this the best thing you can say about

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Speaker 2: it is that the results will be so meager, perhaps

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Speaker 4: I also think there are certain moments of these protests

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Speaker 2: You know there is some sanity amidst the craziness out

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, they are, but the inside, like Vanderbilt

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Speaker 4: That's why the Andy Bernard character on the office is

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Speaker 4: But some your world, by the way, this is one

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Speaker 2: No one's saying you can't speak. They're just saying you

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Speaker 8: This university doesn't belong to a small group of protesters.

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Speaker 4: You and I disagree with the KKK to the extent

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Speaker 4: that it even hardly exists. I think the KKK should

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Speaker 4: be able to march in favor of their position. I

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Speaker 4: don't agree with it. I don't agree with neo Nazis.

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Speaker 4: I don't agree with the people who are anti Israel.

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Speaker 4: Right now, you should be able to make all those arguments,

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Speaker 4: and the Republican Party right now, when your opponent has

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Speaker 4: set himself on fire, don't get close to the fire.

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Speaker 1: This is what this is the.

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Speaker 2: Other It's stratactically so stupid. What are you doing now?

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Speaker 1: Your work?

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Speaker 2: You're giving Democrats cover. This is the Biden base on

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Speaker 2: these campuses. It's the Biden base in an election year.

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Speaker 2: It is their side, it is their people. And they're

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Speaker 2: showing not only conservative Jews who have been with us

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Speaker 2: along and you know they've seen this, they've known this

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Speaker 2: all along. They're showing some center and center left Jews Hey,

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Speaker 2: the Democrat Party creates not just a safe space, but

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Speaker 2: really an elevated platform on campus for attacking not just Israel,

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Speaker 2: but the Jewish people in general. Let's let that sink in,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Let's let the reality of

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Speaker 2: what the party, what the Democrat Party really stands for,

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Speaker 2: speak for itself. I honestly, I you know, we talk

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Speaker 2: sometimes with this Democrat as dumb. Republicans can be really

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Speaker 2: stupid too, and this is this is just a really

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Speaker 2: it's tactically dumb, and it's unprincipled. It's unprincipled from a

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Speaker 2: legal perspective. Yeah, are the people that are saying anti

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Speaker 2: Semitic things horrible and stupid and wrong. Of course, that's

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Speaker 2: how we deal with it, by pointing out what they

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Speaker 2: are saying is horrible, stupid, and wrong. Trying to get

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Speaker 2: the federal government involved and claim that these are hate

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Speaker 2: speech violations. We're not the hate speech side. We say

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Speaker 2: sorry offensives, because if we are, you better get used

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Speaker 2: to saying the wrong pronouns for you know, whatever, guy

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Speaker 2: who's six ' four in waighs two eighty says his

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Speaker 2: name is now Lucinda or whatever like, you better get

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Speaker 2: ready for it.

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Speaker 4: That's why I got me a little bit nervous. I

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Speaker 4: agree that the colleges should be called out, but taking

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Speaker 4: the next step and saying I want you to apply

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Speaker 4: the same standard of speech that you applied during BLM,

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Speaker 4: that's actually creating a situation where there is no free

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Speaker 4: speech right because you're so worried about codding students that

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Speaker 4: they might hear negative things. We need to go against

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Speaker 4: that now an even handed principle, And this is where

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Speaker 4: a really good argument is made. There's a difference between

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Speaker 4: mean words and mean actions, and there's a difference between

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Speaker 4: occupying a building or occupying a quad and walking through

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Speaker 4: for a limited time. In the argument we've made, there's

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Speaker 4: a difference between standing on someone's front law and screaming

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Speaker 4: at them and just saying, hey, I disagree with your position.

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Speaker 2: This is from the bill okay that just got voted

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Speaker 2: on passed overwhelming in the House of Representatives. This would

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Speaker 2: as part of the federal definition of anti semitism. It

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Speaker 2: would include speech that quote claims the existence of the

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Speaker 2: state of Israel is a racist endeavor. It is absolutely

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Speaker 2: free speech to claim that the existence of Israel is

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Speaker 2: a racist endeavor. I disagree with it.

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Speaker 1: I think it's.

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Speaker 2: Insane, but it is absolutely free speech to say that

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Speaker 2: the existence of Israel is something you know oppose. It's racist,

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Speaker 2: it's colonialist, it's apart tod All. They've been saying this

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Speaker 2: stuff for as long as I've been alive on campus.

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Speaker 2: What are Republicans doing? I mean, they're just desperate for

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Speaker 2: some relevancy in this moment. I mean talking about Republicans

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Speaker 2: in the House, But don't interrupt your enemy when he's

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Speaker 2: making a mistake.

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Speaker 1: Don't get in the middle of this.

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Speaker 2: This is a food fight among Biden based lunatics and

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Speaker 2: Republicans on the House want to look tough for their constituencies.

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Speaker 2: By that's not going to do anything. Also, it's not

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Speaker 2: gonna I mean, you know, I don't know what they think.

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Speaker 2: They have it both ways too. They're saying, oh, it'll

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Speaker 2: do a lot, and say, what does it do. You're

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Speaker 2: gonna have the federal government, now, you know, arresting people

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Speaker 2: for hate speech.

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Speaker 1: Oh won't do that. Well, then what are you really doing.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna use Title six I think of the of

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Speaker 2: the you know, the Civil Rights Act too. It's it's

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Speaker 2: a disaster. I couldn't believe how dumb it was when

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Speaker 2: Can't believe how fast time is flying by today, almost

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Speaker 2: as fast as the horse that I pick will be

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Speaker 2: flying by all the competitors at the Kentucky Derby on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to.

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Speaker 2: So I guess I've said I won't give my pick

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Speaker 2: until tomorrow. I will be at our Louisville or as

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Speaker 2: we used to say in New York when I was

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Speaker 2: growing up, Louisville. So I don't know you could tell

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Speaker 2: me which is correct a Louisville Affiliates tomorrow, which will

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Speaker 2: be my first time there. I'm looking forward to seeing everybody,

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Speaker 2: seeing the team there and catching up with them, and

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Speaker 2: I will put forth my.

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Speaker 1: Kentucky Derby pick.

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Speaker 2: Which I think will will work in the same way

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Speaker 2: that sometimes a person the first time they ever go bowling,

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Speaker 2: and they don't think about it and they just throw

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Speaker 2: that ball down the lane, they tend to get a strike.

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Speaker 2: I think this will be my one and done. I'm

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Speaker 2: going in on a derby pick and everybody will realize

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Speaker 2: beginner's luck is a real thing.

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Speaker 6: Play.

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Speaker 4: Here's what I don't like about the derby betting. The

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Speaker 4: number you bet you don't know until the race actually

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Speaker 4: goes off.

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Speaker 1: That is, you can.

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Speaker 4: Think, hey, I found an absolute stellar pick, and if

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Speaker 4: you bet it early in the day and it's eight

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Speaker 4: to one, it might end up going off if money

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Speaker 4: comes flooring in, flooding in at three to one. It

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Speaker 4: isn't fixed. In other words, most betting, if you get

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Speaker 4: a good number, you get to ride with it throughout.

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Speaker 4: I hate the idea of betting on horses when the

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Speaker 4: number you don't know what you got until the actual

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Speaker 4: go off moment of the race, when the bets are locked.

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Speaker 4: Does that make sense? It's unique most betting. If you say, hey,

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Speaker 4: you know, like you're beloved when you were in the nineties,

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Speaker 4: the knicks are playing against the seventy six ers tonight,

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Speaker 4: and I think the seventy six ers are three and

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Speaker 4: a half point favorite. If suddenly you found and you

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Speaker 4: bet it, let's say you bet it right now. You're like,

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Speaker 4: I love the Knicks. You're thinking it's Patrick Ewing John

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Speaker 4: Stark's era. They're gonna get a win, They're gonna win

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Speaker 4: the series. You lock it in and then you find

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Speaker 4: out that Joel Embiid suddenly isn't gonna play, and the

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Speaker 4: line flips and the Knick send up a two point favorite.

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Speaker 4: Your number doesn't shift. You get the number that you

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Speaker 4: bought at that point in time. I don't like horse

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Speaker 4: racing because you don't know what the actual number you

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Speaker 4: got is gonna be until the horses go off. If

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Speaker 4: that makes sense, it is your number is constantly shifting.

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Speaker 4: It's not locked when you're there present at the at

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Speaker 4: the Derby. In addition to the fact that the mint

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Speaker 4: jewelip is overrated, those are the two things, and by overrated,

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Speaker 4: I mean awful. Those are the two things that I

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Speaker 4: would change about the Kentucky Derby if I had a

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Speaker 4: magic one.

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Speaker 2: I'm a little disappointed to see how many of you

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Speaker 2: just because it's fun when you get mad at Clay

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Speaker 2: about one of his random takes. A lot of from Kentuckians,

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Speaker 2: no less support for his scorching hot mint jewlip take

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Speaker 2: that it may be the worst alcoholic beverage out there,

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Speaker 2: which I do de clia.

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Speaker 4: Certainly relative to the pomp, the circumstance, all of its

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Speaker 4: incredible endorsement. I drank my first ever mint jewel it

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Speaker 4: probably been fifteen twenty years ago, and I wanted to

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Speaker 4: spit right afterwards. I don't remember ever. Again, I'm not

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Speaker 4: anti clearly, I'm not anti alcohol. I like lots of

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Speaker 4: different alcohol. It's awful. It is the most overrated alcoholic

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Speaker 4: beverage on the planet, or at least in the United States. Well,

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Speaker 4: I'll try one on video. We'll put it up at

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Speaker 4: Clay and Buck for next week. You know, Clay, we

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Speaker 4: mentioned the Trump trial which is going on in New

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Speaker 4: York and how it's just not really landing in a

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Speaker 4: daily mail, which is among my favorite news sites. Number

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Speaker 4: one story right now.

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Speaker 2: The panic paniced text message Stormy Daniel's lawyer sent to

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Speaker 2: National Inquirer editor on twenty sixteen election night, once it

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Speaker 2: was clear Donald Trump had won, and it goes into

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Speaker 2: you know.

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Speaker 1: Here, here's what it really good.

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Speaker 2: I think no one cares. Yeah, I think this is

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Speaker 2: still they're they're hoping for. You know, the media is

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Speaker 2: a business. I mean there's a lot of ideology involved,

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Speaker 2: but it still is a business. They want clicks, and

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Speaker 2: they're looking for the best stories that they can get. Understandably,

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Speaker 2: it is news. I'm not saying otherwise, but the best

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Speaker 2: stories they can get out of this situation in New York,

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Speaker 2: that the trial in New York and so far it's

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Speaker 2: all pretty boring. And I think that also goes against

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Speaker 2: what they were hoping, which would which is that there

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Speaker 2: would be you know, some kind of revelations. I mean,

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Speaker 2: there's there's really nothing that is even conceivable that would

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Speaker 2: come out of this. I mean Stormy Daniels. We've already

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Speaker 2: heard her say that she had an affair with Trump.

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Speaker 2: We already heard her claim that she, you know, saw

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Speaker 2: Trump's man parts, and you know, we've heard all of them,

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Speaker 2: but that's.

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Speaker 1: What she said.

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Speaker 4: I just I know, I just saw you start to

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Speaker 4: panic about what phrase you were gonna use as soon

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Speaker 4: as you said we've already heard her say Trump's and

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Speaker 4: I can see like you being like, oh, I've painted

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Speaker 4: myself into a corner here. That's what am I gonna say?

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Speaker 4: And man parts is the very man parts. That's a

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Speaker 4: fair thing, very very funny, just a very funny. I

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Speaker 4: was wondering where you were gonna go, and you said,

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Speaker 4: we already know that she's seen Trumps. I could just

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Speaker 4: see like your your you know, like a there was

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Speaker 4: a moment you saw that you saw the train coming

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Speaker 4: down the tracks and realize that there wasn't an easy

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Speaker 4: way off.

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Speaker 2: So so with all that going on, whenever he gets

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Speaker 2: an opportunity to address the media outside the courtroom, he's

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Speaker 2: able to continue to hammer home the point I think

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Speaker 2: the pr of this so far is in Trump's favor

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Speaker 2: in the aggregate all together, when you add all this up,

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Speaker 2: this is cut fifteen.

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Speaker 1: He's just he can make a.

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Speaker 2: Better case in a forty second sound bite, and the

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Speaker 2: prosecution is going to be able to make in the

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Speaker 2: entirety of their shamp case against Trump.

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Speaker 1: Play fifteen.

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Speaker 5: We're down at the trial now, getting ready to spend

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Speaker 5: another day in the courthouse, which is bogus trial that

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Speaker 5: every leading authority on law says this should never have

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Speaker 5: been brought. That Alvin Brand didn't want to bring it

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Speaker 5: until the election happened, and that he brought it. You

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Speaker 5: just do know that this case could have been brought

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Speaker 5: eight years ago. It could have been brought eight years ago.

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Speaker 5: Instead they wait and wait and wait. They know it's

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Speaker 5: not a good case, and now it's turned out to

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Speaker 5: be they've lost every I mean, they have no case.

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Speaker 5: They have no case, but we have a very conflicted

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Speaker 5: judge unfortunately, and I say no, no, no, But other than that,

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Speaker 5: there's no case and it should have never been brought.

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Speaker 5: But if it was going to be brought, it should

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Speaker 5: have been brought eight years ago.

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Speaker 2: I think this clay for this and the other prosecutions

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Speaker 2: as well, is a critical point because there is no

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Speaker 2: and I mean no refutation possible for it. There's no counterpoint.

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Speaker 2: Why did they bring this now? Why did they all sit,

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Speaker 2: including New York, on these alleged charges or charges I guess,

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Speaker 2: these allegations. Why did they all sit on these allegations

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Speaker 2: and these indictments simultaneously and then all unleash them in

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Speaker 2: the election year. It is not a coincidence. That is

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Speaker 2: absurd there And even if you just want to look

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Speaker 2: at New York, leave the other ones out of it.

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Speaker 2: Why do they wait so long? Why wait until he

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Speaker 2: is the Republican nominee again? They don't even try to

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Speaker 2: answer it because the only answer is they're trying to

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Speaker 2: stop him from being president. That is the only answer.

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Speaker 5: It is.

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Speaker 4: I think a time for panic in the Biden campaign.

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Speaker 4: I've said for a long time that if Biden hadn't

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Speaker 4: moved the numbers by Memorial Day, he's going to be

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Speaker 4: in a really difficult spot. And as we sit here,

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Speaker 4: we now know these protests are at a minimum going

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Speaker 4: to continue through much of may best case scenario for

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Speaker 4: the Biden team, You've got graduation and people move on.

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Speaker 4: But you made a good point, and it reminds me

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Speaker 4: of when I was in college about Columbia. George Washington

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Speaker 4: University maybe as bad right now as any university on

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Speaker 4: the planet. I went to GW. You pointed out about Columbia.

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Speaker 4: It's the same way most kids who are at GW

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Speaker 4: or Columbia, you stay in the city of New York,

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Speaker 4: or you stay in Washington, d c. Over the whole summer,

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Speaker 4: because the summer is actually the best time to be there.

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Speaker 4: And a lot of kids at Columbia and a lot

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Speaker 4: of kids at GW and this is different than many

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Speaker 4: other schools might be out there. You got an apartment

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Speaker 4: and you've got a lease for the year round, so

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Speaker 4: you either have to find somebody else to move in

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Speaker 4: to help cover your cost, or you just stay up

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Speaker 4: there through the summers. And I think about that because

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Speaker 4: I loved being in DC. I spent the summer after

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Speaker 4: my junior year mostly in DC. I spent the summer

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Speaker 4: after what would have been my senior year mostly in DC.

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Speaker 4: It's an amazing place to be and a lot of

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Speaker 4: kids out there who are around New York City. You

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Speaker 4: might go to a big city. I've been a lot

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Speaker 4: of you out there listening who were in college. You

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Speaker 4: had friends who got internships in DC or New York,

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Speaker 4: and you maybe went to those places. Those student populations

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Speaker 4: are not going away. But also the professional protesters ain't

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Speaker 4: going anywhere. This is what they live for, and so

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Speaker 4: I don't know that this is gonna go away. Even

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Speaker 4: in the summer. This may just continue the weather's maybe

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Speaker 4: it gets too hot and they don't want to stay

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Speaker 4: in the tents because it can get to ninety degrees

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Speaker 4: or hotter in DC in New York in the summer,

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Speaker 4: for sure, and maybe that's what ultimately kicks them off

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Speaker 4: the campus. They're like, oh, it's too hot, you know,

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Speaker 4: we're not enjoying it. It's a nice time of year

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Speaker 4: right now to be outside. They I saw a headline

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Speaker 4: buck in the New York in the LA Times, which

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Speaker 4: kind of speaks to how great the weather is in La. Uh.

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Speaker 4: And I'm paraphrasing it, but it's said the protesters were

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Speaker 4: locked in even as temperatures plummeted in LA to the

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Speaker 4: mid fifties. The protesters didn't leave. And I'm just kind

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Speaker 4: of laughing because if you live in LA, you know,

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Speaker 4: like mid fifties.

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Speaker 1: People in upstate New.

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Speaker 2: York, they're like, that's like, that's like June. You know,

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Speaker 2: I live in South Florida. I'm throwing no stones on

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Speaker 2: this issue, let me.

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Speaker 1: Tell you know. But it gets so funny.

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Speaker 2: It gets sub sixty five here and we all of

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Speaker 2: a sudden act like it's the end of days.

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 4: I just think it's so funny that they were trying to,

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Speaker 4: you know, like boost up the protesters at UCLA, like

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Speaker 4: they're so committed to the cast.

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Speaker 1: It was the mid fifties and they.

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Speaker 4: Didn't even leave and I'm just laughing. At mid fifties

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Speaker 4: at the University of Michigan is may you're like five

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Speaker 4: shorts again, that's right. And when Wisconsin Addison where they

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Speaker 4: also have to protest if it hits the fifties, like

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Speaker 4: you're you're running around like girls are out in their

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Speaker 4: in their bikinis. Basically, I also think it's just laughable.

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Speaker 2: I think that back to Trump and the trial and

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Speaker 2: how he's leveraging the media. The media focus they were

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Speaker 2: hoping with this trial would be on.

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Speaker 9: Oh my gosh, you're under you're you know, facing criminal

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Speaker 9: charges and it's so terrible and Trump and handcuffs, and

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Speaker 9: that's what they were hoping it would be, and instead

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Speaker 9: it's turned into Trump holding impromptu press conferences while this

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Speaker 9: sham is going on behind him, and people aren't upset

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Speaker 9: with Trump at all about this.

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Speaker 2: Who weren't who weren't before? Right, I Mean, no one's saying,

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Speaker 2: oh my gosh, I thought Trump was actually pretty cool,

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Speaker 2: but now with this, you know, managerial, I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: even think what the misstating of internal expenses and his

778
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Speaker 2: business is basically what the real people keep saying, It's

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Speaker 2: about the hush money it's really about how they entered

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Speaker 2: into the ledger, what the business expenses were in I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's even weaker than a hush money trial. By the way,

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Speaker 2: Stormy Daniels, what's the difference to what she did in extortion.

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Speaker 2: That's a whole other basically hiring a lawyer who does

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Speaker 2: the extortion for you, like Michael Abanati. But Trump has

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Speaker 2: spoken as well about law enforcement specifically, and I think

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Speaker 2: this is another key place where he can make the distinctions.

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Speaker 2: Democrats care about the law when they are persecuting political opponents.

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Speaker 2: Trump and Republicans care about the law when it is

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Speaker 2: keeping you safe from violent criminals on the streets and

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Speaker 2: from lunatics on these campuses.

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Speaker 1: Play sixteen quickly.

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Speaker 5: On the colleges and universities. It's a shame. I'm so

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Speaker 5: proud of the New York's finists, the great people too,

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Speaker 5: and so many of them. They're incredible. They did a

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Speaker 5: job at Columbia and likewise in Los Angeles, they did

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Speaker 5: a really good job at UCLA. It was very much embedded.

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Speaker 5: And just so you understand, this is the radical left.

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Speaker 5: This is a movement from the left, not from the right.

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Speaker 5: The right is not your problem. Despite what like law

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Speaker 5: enforcement likes to say. The FBI director said that he

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Speaker 5: worries about the right. Now, don't worry about the right.

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Speaker 5: The right's fine, worry about the left because this is

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Speaker 5: a movement from the left. These are radical left lunatics.

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Speaker 1: There we go.

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Speaker 2: This is they wanted the trial, They wanted to focus

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Speaker 2: on it, New York City getting a lot of attention.

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Speaker 2: Not the way Democrats want though, no doubt. It's a

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Speaker 2: total mess for them.

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Speaker 4: And this is why I think earlier you heard us

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Speaker 4: playing Joe Scarborough and so many people out there who

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Speaker 4: are a little bit uncomfortable with how this is going

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Speaker 4: for Democrats, and the polling must be awful. If they

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Speaker 4: finally got Joe Biden to leave and actually address this

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Speaker 4: after ten days of silence, that's kind of how bad

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Speaker 4: I think in general, all of this is playing for him,

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Speaker 4: kind of going forward.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, eight h two two eight a two. We got

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Speaker 6: You, Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with the biggest takeaway from Trump's speech and

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Speaker 2: the energy and the message that he gave in your

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Speaker 2: home state of Michigan.

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Speaker 6: There were people from all over the state. I mean

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Speaker 6: I came, I drove in from two and a half

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Speaker 6: hours away and people came up to me and they

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Speaker 6: were like, we're from we live right down the street

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Speaker 6: from you. So I know that people were excited to

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Speaker 6: have him here. There was overwhelming support for him, overwhelming

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Speaker 6: disgust that he can't campaign right now that he's limited

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Speaker 6: to one day a week, and I think that has

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Speaker 6: just helped to make people more excited about this election.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it was really electric. The people were so

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Speaker 6: excited to be there. It was pretty awesome.

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Speaker 4: Tudor, if the election were to day, you know the

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Speaker 4: state of Michigan, Well, do you think Trump would win?

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Speaker 4: And what needs to happen if you don't over the

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Speaker 4: next six months to make that possible? Kind of how

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Speaker 4: would you assess what's on the ground now and what

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Speaker 4: you expect to be like in six months.

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Speaker 6: I think Michigan is always an incredibly tight state and

879
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Speaker 6: it's very hard for either side. It's a battle, and

880
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 6: it's a battle on the ground. It's a battle on

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Speaker 6: the phones. People have to be communicating regularly, but Michigan

882
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Speaker 6: Republicans need to make sure that the ground game is

883
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Speaker 6: strong because the Democrats have a very strong ground game

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Speaker 6: in Michigan. We saw it in twenty twenty, we saw

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Speaker 6: it in twenty two, and I will tell you they

886
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Speaker 6: didn't in twenty sixteen, and they regretit it and they

887
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Speaker 6: made sure that they put in place what they needed

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Speaker 6: to have for twenty eighteen, for twenty and twenty two,

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Speaker 6: and the Republicans have been catching up. And so I

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Speaker 6: say it's tight because I think that they've lost Democrats

891
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 6: have lost a lot of support, and we have gained support,

892
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Speaker 6: but we have to make sure that we keep that

893
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Speaker 6: support going through November.

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Speaker 2: Tudor do you think that Trump's I'm sorry, Biden's challenges

895
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Speaker 2: right now with the Muslim and more specifically Arab Muslim

896
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Speaker 2: constituency of your state of Michigan is really concerning Democrats

897
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Speaker 2: as a possible reason they might lose in the upcoming election.

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Speaker 2: Or is that overstating it.

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Speaker 6: No, I think that's what's concerning them across the country

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Speaker 6: right now because that's what they saw in the primary,

901
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Speaker 6: and the primary was very telling. They went into the

902
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 6: primary and they said, even Gretchen Whitmer said, we think

903
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Speaker 6: that we may have ten thousand uncommitted voters, which means

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Speaker 6: Democrats came out and they said, look, we don't like

905
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Speaker 6: any of you. We're not voting for any of you.

906
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Speaker 6: And they ended up with one hundred thousand. But the

907
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Speaker 6: thing that I think really scared them because even that

908
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Speaker 6: they could say, Okay, this was a statement from our

909
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Speaker 6: Arab American community, and we're going to get those people back.

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Speaker 6: But the problem they had was it happened at Michigan State.

911
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 6: It happened at you of them, and so when they

912
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,439
Speaker 6: saw those student numbers had turned against them, and now

913
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 6: they can't figure out how to talk about these protests,

914
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Speaker 6: how to get them to stop, how to get these

915
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Speaker 6: people calmed down. This is something that they haven't experienced before,

916
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Speaker 6: that they are protesting against the Democrats. So I think

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Speaker 6: that Michigan was the starting point for that, and now

918
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Speaker 6: they are looking at the rest of the country and saying, gosh,

919
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Speaker 6: what did we do with the youth vote? And can

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Speaker 6: we fix this in time for November?

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Speaker 4: Did you enjoy tutor when Gretchen Whitmer walked out at

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Speaker 4: the draft and was universally booed by all of the

923
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Speaker 4: football fans there. I'm sure you saw that video that

924
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Speaker 4: went viral. I don't know why they decided to invite her,

925
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Speaker 4: but did you take some small measure of enjoyment there?

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Speaker 6: And look, this is a risk that you take when

927
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Speaker 6: you try to make yourself as a politician also a

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Speaker 6: pop star and I think we've seen this with a

929
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Speaker 6: lot of people, but no one to the extent that

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Speaker 6: Gretchen Whitmer does it. She does these videos. She has

931
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Speaker 6: the video of her talking to a potato. She wants

932
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Speaker 6: to be famous, and she always has. This was you know,

933
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Speaker 6: she went to college wanting to be a sports reporter

934
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Speaker 6: for ESPN. That is her passion. That's where her heart

935
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Speaker 6: has always been. She was kind of dragged into politics,

936
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Speaker 6: and she's always stayed here because this is the next

937
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Speaker 6: best way for her to become famous. She's trying to

938
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Speaker 6: put those two things together. And what she doesn't realize

939
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Speaker 6: is that she is very polarizing, a very polarizing figure,

940
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Speaker 6: and many of the football fans are conservatives. So the

941
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Speaker 6: way she's treated the state, the destruction that she's caused

942
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Speaker 6: in the state, just not only during COVID but afterward

943
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Speaker 6: with businesses and regulations, she is not a popular figure

944
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Speaker 6: among conservatives, and yet she wants so desperately to be

945
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Speaker 6: loved by everyone, So she put herself out there. It

946
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Speaker 6: was a risk she took, and yeah, I'll say I

947
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Speaker 6: might have smiled a little bit about it.

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Speaker 2: Clay, you could have just hired Gretchen Whitmer at OutKick

949
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Speaker 2: a long time ago and saved the people of Michigan

950
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Speaker 2: so much as well.

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Speaker 4: Maybe I would have saved the people of Michigan, but

952
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Speaker 4: the company might have gone bankrupted to rely on her

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Speaker 4: to be likable.

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Speaker 2: That's a fair point. So what are your points of advice?

955
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Speaker 2: I'm sure you're talking to a President Trump tutor, you know, offline,

956
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Speaker 2: and you know to the degree that you can speak

957
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Speaker 2: to it's just about the advice you'd give him in

958
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Speaker 2: person and in public for winning the state of Michigan. Like,

959
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Speaker 2: what does the pathway? Because I think you're right, and

960
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,240
Speaker 2: you're just being honest with us. Even in a great

961
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Speaker 2: environment for Trump, which it feels like we're in right now,

962
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Speaker 2: and even with the Biden administration failures which are obvious,

963
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Speaker 2: it's going to be tight. It's going to be close. Right,

964
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Speaker 2: No one's winning Michigan by twenty points. So with that

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Speaker 2: in mind, what is the pathway to victory for Trump

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Speaker 2: and any other Republicans on the ballot?

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Speaker 6: Look like Trump is doing the exact right thing in

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Speaker 6: Michigan right now, And if I were sitting down with

969
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Speaker 6: him every day, I would continue to say the same

970
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Speaker 6: thing he got out of the trap that Gretchen Whitmer

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Speaker 6: wanted to lay for him. She wanted to make this

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Speaker 6: about abortion again. And for people who have criticized him

973
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Speaker 6: for that, they must understand that that issue is going

974
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Speaker 6: to have to have a herculean cultural effort and not

975
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Speaker 6: a political effort. And so him stepping out of the

976
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Speaker 6: arena on abortion takes away all weapons against him, and

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Speaker 6: therefore he can talk about the things that are affecting Michiganders.

978
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Speaker 6: Every single day he did. He talked about what's happening

979
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Speaker 6: in the ev industry, and when we talk about mandates

980
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 6: and regulations from the Biden administration, this is directly impacting

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Speaker 6: the people in this state and hurting them on a

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00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 6: daily basis. It's hurting them with their jobs. He's also

983
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:20,720
Speaker 6: talking about energy, it's hurting them with their finances. Because

984
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 6: every time GM or Ford or one of these companies

985
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 6: lays off a bunch of people. You just hear about

986
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 6: the people to get affected by the big automotive companies,

987
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Speaker 6: but all of our tier one, tier two, tier three suppliers,

988
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Speaker 6: then they're either laying people off, or they're working fewer shifts,

989
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 6: or they're paying less overtime, and all of a sudden,

990
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Speaker 6: all of the families in the state of Michigan are hurting.

991
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 6: So as long as he continues to talk about manufacturing

992
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 6: and energy, and we have the highest energy costs in

993
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 6: the entire Midwest. And Gretchen Whitmer wants to shut down

994
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Speaker 6: another pipeline. They're trying desperately to shut down a pipeline

995
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,760
Speaker 6: in Michigan that is critical for folks in the Upper

996
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 6: Peninsula but also for folks in the Lower Peninsula. And

997
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 6: we just saw gas praises Rice. He continues to talk

998
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 6: about those things. Those are winning issues for him in Michigan,

999
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 6: and Biden and Whitmer can do nothing to harm him.

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Speaker 4: We're talking to Tutor Dixon. You can listen to her

1001
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 4: as part of the Clay and Buck podcast network. She's

1002
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 4: killing it there. She was just with Trump yesterday at

1003
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 4: a big rally in Michigan. Buck and I are going

1004
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 4: to be in your college state, Kentucky tomorrow and we're

1005
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Speaker 4: going to the Kentucky Derby on Saturday. My bet as

1006
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 4: a UK student would be that you have been to

1007
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Speaker 4: a couple of Kentucky Derby's at some point in your life.

1008
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 4: What advice would you give us for the Derby And

1009
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 4: have you ever tried a mint julep, And if so,

1010
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 4: do you agree with me that is the most overrated

1011
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 4: alcoholic drink of all time.

1012
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 6: So, first off, I will say that that's what I've

1013
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 6: always been told about in mint julip and I have

1014
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 6: never tried one because I've heard they are disgusting and

1015
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 6: I'm not a big drinker, so I really don't drink

1016
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 6: and putting myself in the position of drinking something awful.

1017
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 6: It's like when someone's like this is terrible or this

1018
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 6: smell horrible. Smell it you do, no thanks. I hope

1019
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 6: that's not that. But the Derby is such a special

1020
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 6: time in Kentucky and such a neat thing because you

1021
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 6: have to remember that Kentucky has no national sports teams

1022
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 6: or anything like that, so they don't when they have

1023
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:27,720
Speaker 6: football season. It's college football season, basketball season, college basketball season.

1024
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 6: This is very unique to the state of Kentucky. The

1025
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 6: Kentucky Derby, it's very special. There's a lot of history.

1026
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 6: It's a great place to be and I encourage anyone

1027
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Speaker 6: who can attend to go at least once in their life.

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Speaker 4: Are you a hat person when you I'm assuming you've

1029
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 4: been right. I assume almost everybody who goes to the

1030
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Speaker 4: University of Kentucky like has an obligation. I know you've

1031
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 4: been to Keeenland, which is also really fun, but are

1032
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 4: you a hat person? Like, what kind of fashion advice

1033
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 4: would you give if, like Buck's wife Carrie, my wife Laura,

1034
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 4: they haven't been before. What advice would you give for women?

1035
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 6: You have to be You have to be kind of

1036
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 6: I mean, you have to dress the derby, you have

1037
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 6: to be a little bit loud, and you have to

1038
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 6: do a hat because how often in our lifetime do

1039
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 6: we get to go out and wear a very fancy

1040
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 6: hat as women anymore? So Yes, dress us and absorb

1041
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 6: it all. Take it all in, go all out, wear

1042
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:24,399
Speaker 6: the hat, have bright colors. It's spring, enjoy it, celebrate May.

1043
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 6: It's a beautiful weekend. Go all out.

1044
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 2: Outstanding stuff, yep, outstanding stuff. Tutorddiction go subscribe to the

1045
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 2: tutor didiction show. She's doing a great job and Tutor,

1046
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 2: thank you so much for being with.

1047
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 6: Us as always, thank you so much for having me.

1048
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Speaker 2: You know, Clay, I'd have to go to like a

1049
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 2: special I don't even know if this exists.

1050
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: Oh your head's too big to have a hat. Let's

1051
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 1: be sensitive about this.

1052
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 2: Okay, Yes, my head is too big for all of

1053
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 2: the fedoras that are out there, which are for normal

1054
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 2: sized head people, so I'd have to find some. I

1055
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 2: found one for baseball hats, so finally I can have

1056
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,240
Speaker 2: basely know my baseball hat looks.

1057
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Speaker 1: Like a parachute to most people.

1058
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Speaker 2: But I don't know if there are Kentucky Derby double

1059
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 2: double XL.

1060
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: Hats out there, so we'll see.

1061
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:13,879
Speaker 4: Have you thought about how much worse your life would

1062
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:15,959
Speaker 4: be as a man with a big head? Most people

1063
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 4: don't notice. Woman with a gigantic head like would be

1064
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 4: a tough look for you.

1065
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Speaker 1: That's true, I guess.

1066
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Speaker 5: So.

1067
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Speaker 4: I mean, if you're a woman out there a gigantic

1068
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 4: head and you can't find like a hat to wear

1069
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,240
Speaker 4: the cast I imagine it's kind of a panic.

1070
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Speaker 1: The man hands.

1071
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 2: There was the woman who was really attractive and then

1072
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 2: big like furry man hands.

1073
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 4: Yes, a man head would be a bad look on

1074
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 4: a woman. I'm just gonna say, you can't find like

1075
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 4: a nice, like feminine hat that would be a tough look.

1076
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 4: Maybe you have to drink a lot of mint julips.

1077
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 4: But to help forget about how gigantic your head is

1078
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 4: and how much it ruins everything. But sorry, if you

1079
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 4: have a big head out there and you're a woman.

1080
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 4: But I just watched a video of protesters on a

1081
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Speaker 4: college campus.

1082
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Speaker 1: You've got to see this video. I just shared it.

1083
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 4: It's a bunch of loser dudes running with bike I

1084
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 4: can't believe this is real with bike helmets on, and

1085
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 4: they've cut up a plastic garbage can and they are

1086
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Speaker 4: using the plastic garbage can as a shield. It looks

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Speaker 4: like the worst paintball game ever. And they just get

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Speaker 4: wrecked by the police officers. And I thought to myself,

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Speaker 4: there's no way those guys have any testosterone in their

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Speaker 4: body at all, because if you did, you wouldn't be

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Speaker 4: protesting in favor of Gaza. But at some point in time,

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Speaker 4: your testosterone would have clicked in and you would have said,

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Speaker 4: I'm wearing a bike helmet and running with a shield

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00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 4: made from a garbage can. I look like a loser.

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Speaker 4: No one is ever going to sleep with me, and

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Speaker 4: you would leave the protest. Those men need chalk, and

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Speaker 4: they did it bad.

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Speaker 1: C Hoq.

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Speaker 4: If you know a man, I'm just gonna say it.

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Speaker 4: If you know a man that would do that, you

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00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 4: need to just give him a bottle of chalk and say, dude,

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Speaker 4: just start taking this. Your life's gonna get better. Your

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Speaker 4: voice will probably get deeper, maybe you will grow hair

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Speaker 4: on your body. Cchoq is the phone. Phone number is

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Speaker 4: the website you can get hooked up. Use name Clay,

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Speaker 4: you get a great deal on subscriptions. Don't be a

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Speaker 4: left wing loser protester. Put some testosterone in your body.

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Speaker 4: Choq is the website chalk dot com, and my name

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Speaker 4: Clay gets you a subscription bonus.

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Speaker 7: Need a break from follozis a little comedy to counter

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Speaker 7: the craziness, So do we. The Sunday Hang, a weekend

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Speaker 7: the Clay and Buck podcast feed, on the iHeartRadio app,

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Speaker 7: or wherever you get your podcasts.