WEBVTT - Ep. 60: Top of Jag's Draft Wish List? Bucky Brooks, Charles Davis Discuss | Jags A.M. 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:30.920 From Indianapolis, Indiana. Our coverage of the NFL Scouting Combine continues. 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:35.400 Lucas Oil Stadium, the site the on field testing beginning tomorrow, 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:38.800 but across the street in the Indiana Convention Center. Hot 0:00:38.880 --> 0:00:40.960 and heavy on Radio Row in the Media Center and 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:44.280 welcome in its jags am from Radio Row in Indianapolis, 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:47.800 JP Shadwick, John Osier, and the King of the Combine 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:51.360 has arrived to sit in his throne all week long. 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:54.200 It's Bucky Brooks. Welcome to Indy man. 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:56.360 I'm excited to be here, Like it's one of my 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:58.840 favorite places, one of my favorite events to as end. 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:00.960 Get a chance to see you old colleagues, get a 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:03.600 chancey the new class of players coming in and catch. 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:04.080 It with you. Guys. 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:06.280 It's truly like the Pied Piper when you follow him 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:09.280 around here. I mean it's you can follow him. He is, 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:12.200 He's an icon. But I'm not sure Bucky, that your 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:14.560 event is going to be your event for that much longer. 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:17.199 I think the Combine feels to me like it's changing. 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:18.560 We'll talk about that later in the show. 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:20.480 Yeah, like definitely not the same. 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:23.240 Not as many people and not as many personnel coming 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:24.800 out to the bench, which is kind of depressing. 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:27.240 Everybody wants a piece of Everybody wants a piece of 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:29.600 Bucky Brooks. I mean the latest monk came out. We'll 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:31.520 get to that. It was yesterday, just in time for 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:33.640 the combine. In your visit here, and everybody wants to 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:36.479 talk to you about your selections for their team. 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:37.759 Yeah, hopefully I can. 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:41.440 I can remember who I put there musical chairs. I mean, 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:43.640 you're sitting there laying on a Sunday night trying to 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:45.800 throw darts to try and figure out who's and what's what. 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:48.600 It's a lot of fun. But right now the Monks 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:50.760 will not have as much accuracy. We haven't even done 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:53.240 free agency yet. No, I haven't got anything. I haven't 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:55.800 cut players yet. Yeah, we're still trying to figure it out. 0:01:55.880 --> 0:02:00.440 Not have as much accus so they'll have like less close. 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:01.880 As you can kind of narrow it down. But yeah, 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:05.000 like you know, like right now we're really guessing. Yes, 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:09.040 this clickbait a little bit, a little bit, a little 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:11.720 just a little it's a little clickbait, clickbait. 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:16.880 Imagine that Bucky Brooks with clickbait. Charles Davis, NFL Network, 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:19.720 CBS Sports, Serrius XM Radio coming up in just a 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:21.960 little bit. He's around Radio row as well. He'll join 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:24.600 us here in the program in just a little while. 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:27.799 Of course, the big reason why we are here every 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:30.520 year is that the GM and head coach speak with 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:33.040 the media, and they did that yesterday, Trent Balke and 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:36.040 Doug Peterson really setting the tone for the start of 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:39.320 the twenty four campaign and beyond. The league year officially 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:42.119 begins March thirteenth, but this is really the start where 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:44.800 the messaging begins for how they're going to move forward. 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:49.040 John and Hey, collective front was the idea, right. There 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:50.880 was a lot of noise in the system after the 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:53.120 nine and eight and the collapse to get there and 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:56.280 miss the playoffs. But both were out there yesterday and 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:57.840 now they have a course moving ahead. 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:01.000 Yeah, I thought both of them on our show, and 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:03.440 then when they're on the podium the nice job setting 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:06.079 the tone and clarifying which Trent had said a couple 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:08.320 of weeks ago. Look, this was a nine and eighteen, 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:11.239 it was not a one in sixteen team. They don't 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:13.960 feel like they're far away. Trend on the podium probably 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:17.320 said it best. Very disappointed by the end of last season, 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:21.080 but focused on moving forward. But yeah, I don't think 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:25.240 they're that far away. Do you agree with what they 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:28.240 were saying? And are there are there moves that they 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:30.600 can make? Are there things that they can do quote 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:32.800 easily to get to where they want to go? 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:35.320 I think so. Look, I don't think the team is 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:38.119 far away. I mean, it's funny. It's just the way 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:40.800 that the team finished that that led to disappoint. 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:42.240 It was a nine and eighth three fourteen. 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:44.160 Yeah, I mean, it just it just felt bad, just 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:46.839 because the tail spin that the team went on down 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:49.280 the stretch, but also coincided with Trevor Lawrence suffering a 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:52.320 handful of injuries not being able to play at his best, 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:55.400 but also not having Christian Kirk there having a handful 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:58.840 of other injuries to impact the performance and that. 0:03:58.960 --> 0:03:59.840 Yeah, and that's this. 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:02.680 It's clearly an excuse because injuries are going to happen. 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:04.840 But if you go back and look at the amount 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:07.600 of closed games that they lost, how they lost those games, 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:10.560 and the performers of their star players, the injuries did 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:13.640 have a big impact on the way the team finished 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:14.080 the season. 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:16.840 A lot of talk yesterday Doug Peterson, of course, is 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:19.000 at the podium I will hear from these guys coming 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:22.360 up some bites from yesterday. But then after I had 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:25.360 a little scrum off to the side with the local 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:28.400 media as they often do here before the run to 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:32.839 Radio Row, and that's when the offensive play calling question 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:35.360 line started to come up. John, you were standing right there, 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:40.000 and Doug Peterson said, Hey, everything's under evaluation still. 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:40.440 Yeah. 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:44.840 He expressed great faith in Press Taylor, which I do 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:47.800 believe he has. He didn't waiver from Press all year. 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:51.479 I think Doug's thought on it is that him and 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:54.200 Press are of such like mind if there's not much 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:56.320 of a difference what I'm called plays in the first 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:59.800 half one and second half in twenty two. But that 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:03.200 being said, Brent Martin, I didn't nicely have asked the question. 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:06.360 Doug might be one of the best play callers in 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:11.040 the NFL. And Brent's question to him was, if you're 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:15.279 that good at it, sort of doesn't it make sense 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:17.440 for you to call it no matter how good Press 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:20.760 is at it? And you know that made sense to me, 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:25.400 And Doug didn't really address that question in particular, but 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:27.200 he certainly left the door open to call plays. 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:29.000 Bucky Well, I think as a head coach. 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:32.400 Ultimately, you have veto power and you're responsible for the 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:35.799 performance of the team, and as the noise escalates around 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:38.240 the team, sometimes as a head coach, you got to 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:41.760 jump in there. I do often wonder when your superpower 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:43.040 is you're one of the best. 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:43.960 Play callers in the league. 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:47.559 To see control of that, to me, sometimes you wonder why. 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:51.559 But I think the great example for Doug is looking 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:54.600 at his old mentor, Andy Reid, and Andy Reid has 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:57.520 been able to cycle through a few offensive coordinators, guys 0:05:57.520 --> 0:06:01.279 who have called plays, but when it assists the same Yeah, 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:04.279 But then when it gets down to it, Andy recalls 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:06.720 the plays in those critical moments. And so maybe it's 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:08.960 a bit of that ying and yang where look fresh 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:10.560 you call it, but in some of these gotta have 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:13.440 it moments, or based on the field on the floor 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:15.640 of the game, maybe he has to step in and 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:17.720 do maybe a little more of the play call and 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:18.800 than he did last year. 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:21.760 And Doug did say, and I believe it's from talking 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:25.240 to head coaches over the years. He liked that thirty 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:29.240 thousand feet view all right, that you're able to get 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:31.279 when you don't have your nose sort of in the 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:36.799 play sheet game situations and maybe he's sort of adjusting 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:38.760 to that a little bit. How to best balance that? 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:39.960 Does that make sense Buck Well? 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:41.840 Yeah, because when you're the head coach, there's so many 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:45.000 other things that you response before outside of just being 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:47.400 the offensive play caller. You have to understand what the 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:50.560 defense is doing, what issues are giving them problems, the 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:52.960 special teams, how you want to tie it all together. 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:56.039 Sometimes when you're the play caller, it it's harder to 0:06:56.680 --> 0:06:59.320 kind of manage the entire game and kind of coordinate 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:03.240 all the different phases to the to the team that's it. 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:06.000 He has been such a good play call that he 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:08.280 has done one of his big quarterbacks throughout his time. 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:12.920 You do wonder by stepping back, how does it impact 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:13.520 the thing? 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:15.960 I kind of liken it to. I mean, like playing 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:16.560 a video game. 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:18.800 You and I can all play with the same team, 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:21.000 but we have our own different styles and flavor that 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:24.360 we add to it. Doug Peterson's flavor is a lot 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:26.480 different than Press Taylor, and so I don't know, I 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:28.360 kind of missed some of the dug stuff that he 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:31.600 was doing the first year in Jacksonville. 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:34.840 And he made reference yesterday also to you know, had 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:36.680 to step back a little bit. Some other things were 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:39.640 going on off to the side, and I guess you 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:42.400 can infer that maybe it was some defensive issues he 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:44.960 had to kind of oversee a little bit more, and 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:48.000 maybe with a new coordinator in may not have to 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:50.680 do as much of on that side of the ball. 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:52.680 He's not really used to that, and maybe he can 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:53.520 get back to some of that. 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:58.600 He certainly said he hoped that, you know, you hope 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:01.640 your defensive coordinator high right, Nielsen works out where he's 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:04.360 that guy. He didn't say that Mike Caldwell wasn't, but 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:07.080 he made reference to that a little bit. Didn't really 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:09.200 get into what he was talking about, so to speak, 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:12.800 of what he had to address. But if you change 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:16.960 your dynamic just a little, then in big moments, maybe 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:17.760 that changes it a lot. 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:19.200 Yeah, it does change it a lot. 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:21.520 And so here's the thing about an offensive head coach 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:24.400 play caller. When you're the play caller and the head coach, 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:27.560 a lot of times you want a defensive head coach, 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:29.960 meaning the defensive cordin is in charge of that side 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:32.760 of the ball and you're just able to work on 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:35.559 focus on offense and not entrust it. But because Mike 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:37.800 Halweb might have been having some issues on that side. 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:39.520 He had to step in and do more, and that 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:42.000 distracted him from being able to concentrate on what he 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:42.920 wanted to do on offense. 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:46.439 Our guest today on Jags Am from the NFL on CBS, 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:50.760 NFL Network, Serious XM Radio. I guess another king of 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:53.199 the combine. I didn't know there were multiple cash it's 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:57.720 Charles Davis Kings. Yes, what's up, Charles? How are you? 0:08:57.960 --> 0:09:01.120 I'm doing great? Yeah, we got yeah, Yeah, we're good. 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:03.120 Got I'm doing I'm doing well. It's so great to 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:05.280 see all of you. And Bucky's got to be sick 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:06.920 of me, because Bucky just spent a week with me 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:11.160 in New Orleans, the HBCU All story, the legacy story. 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:12.960 But thank goodness, I get a chance to hang with 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:13.640 all of you again. 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:14.240 This is great. 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:17.080 Good to see you. And we're reviewing Doug Peterson and 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:20.840 Trent Balkey at the podium yesterday, Jaguars leadership and some 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:23.600 of the play calling storylines that have come out of 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:25.520 that on the offensive. So you saw the Jags how 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:26.439 many times last year? 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:26.880 God? 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:28.839 We saw him what three times? I believe last year? 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:30.560 I think I think it was three times. I know 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:32.600 we saw you in Pittsburgh. It was a good win 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:35.880 there Kansas City at home early when it was three 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:37.400 and twenty seven degrees. 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:38.680 It was very high. 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:42.320 I will tell you this is a true story. The 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:45.320 people who bring you games and televised games and will 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:48.520 always get overlooked because you know, you know what's about 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:50.600 our camera people happened to be out there and that 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:53.520 that so person who runs the handheld. 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:55.319 You know, we got it on your shoulder and you're 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:56.920 doing it. Those cameras are black. 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:00.320 Okay, Black's not the color you want in the heat, right, 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:01.600 you don't want any of that. 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:03.920 It was so hot. Literally had to go to the 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:05.320 hospital with burns on his hand. 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:05.839 Wow. 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:08.600 Oh okay. And we had another camera person fall out 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:09.040 that day. 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:12.280 It was brutally, brutally hot heck of a football game 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:14.439 and Jacksonville had multiple opportunities to win. 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:15.920 It couldn't score in the red zone. 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:19.520 Now you know a couple of years. Yeah, that's the deal. 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:22.880 So we're talking about offensive play call and Doug Peterson 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:25.679 didn't close the door yesterday on taking it back. 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:28.120 And you know something, he shouldn't And I don't mean 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:30.640 that as a slam against Press Taylor or anything like that. 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:33.079 You're the head coach. What is best for your team. 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:35.200 The only thing I would say, and Doug needs no 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:38.520 advice from me, but look at what Carolina did last 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:43.200 year and don't do that. And this is this is 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:45.880 coming from someone with full respect for Frank Reich, because 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:47.920 I love Frank Reich. I hated how it went for 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:51.080 him at Carolina. But to say, you're going to be 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:53.840 the play caller with a rookie quarterback who's number one, 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:58.680 turn it over mid season and then take it back Bucky, 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:03.640 that's a quarterback. Yeah, it's well, when you commit and go, 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:04.640 that's all I say. 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:05.960 It is hard. 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:08.360 So we were having a conversation before you came on, 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:10.199 and we were talking about maybe he learned something from 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:13.520 watching Andy Reid. You certainly have seen the Kancity Chiefs, 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:16.199 and it appears that even though he has a coordinator 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:19.680 who is calling plays and Big Red, big Red takes over. 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:22.680 And so I do wonder do you think that Doug 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:24.920 can kind of pick up the phone call and they say, 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:25.880 how do I navigate? 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:28.280 How do I manage this situation where I'm a. 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:30.520 Really good play caller, I have a young guy that 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:33.960 I want to groom for kind of an elevated role. 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:36.200 How do I kind of dip in and dip out 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:37.040 when it comes to play call? 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:39.520 He absolutely can call him. You know that Andy's gonna 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:41.800 take that call. Those are all his kids, all right. 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:42.760 He groomed him. 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:45.600 Plus he can go back and remember his experience because 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:48.320 Andy was still calling the plays and Doug wasn't a 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:50.600 full time play caller when he came. Remember how Andy 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:54.080 would let him call parts of things in different spots and. 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:55.040 Then crunched down. 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:57.160 I got it, I got it, and then off they 0:11:57.160 --> 0:11:59.000 would go. So he remembers how it all went. 0:11:59.360 --> 0:11:59.640 To me. 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:02.000 It is much more about what you were saying. You're 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:05.560 rooming a young play caller. If you want to call plays, 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:07.760 How do I do this with this young play caller? 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:10.480 Where that young play caller I don't lose him because 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:13.439 he feels like I've taken something from him. That's gonna 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:15.920 be the key if it Doug Peterson wants to do that. 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:19.079 Mike McCarthy went through it. Remember he gave up play calling, 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:21.280 but he always took it back in the off season 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:23.800 and was definitive about it. When he would take it back, 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:24.880 it wasn't during season. 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:25.559 I'm taking it. 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:27.520 I think that's where Doug is going right now with 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:28.280 his dilemma. 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:28.760 Charles. 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:31.679 Right before you got here, we were talking about Jaguars season. 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:35.360 Obviously it finished disastrously, which sort of made a nine 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:39.680 and eight season feel like three and fourteen, right you 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:42.160 maybe being a bit separate from it, where we got 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:45.000 to get into the minutia overall, where do you see 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:48.720 this team? Can you bounce back from what happened at 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:50.439 the end of last year? How do you assess it 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:50.959 going forward? 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:53.520 Yeah, I think that they can. It was a major shocker. 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:56.440 I mean, I'm not going to sit here in sugarcoat. 0:12:56.480 --> 0:12:57.120 The whole thing is. 0:12:57.160 --> 0:12:59.920 I watched it go kept thinking they're going to figure 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:01.880 this thing out, this is going to this is going 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:03.440 to happen, They're going to be Okay. 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:06.040 The last time we saw you was Cleveland, right and 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:08.959 that which was terrible. It was terrible. 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:10.959 But you remember that was right after the Monday Night 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:13.800 or where where Trevor got rolled up and we weren't 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:15.719 sure he was going to play and he came out 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:19.240 and played. Look, two seasons in a row in the 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:23.400 AFC South, the division title was locked up at mid season, 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:27.079 and neither one of those teams won the Division Tennessee 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:28.600 the year before you reeled them in. 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:33.400 Last year it was you. Houston comes in. 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:36.400 I think it's fixable because I think the culture that 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:37.640 Doug Peterson sets. 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:38.120 Up is fine. 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:41.079 I mean this, This is not other cultures that may 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:43.680 exist around the league, where once you collapse like that, 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:44.880 there's no coming back. 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:46.240 I don't see that at all. 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:47.880 And I think he and Trent Balky make the key 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:50.480 the key decisions that have to be made in order 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:52.680 to improve this team. And I expect him to fight 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:55.320 it out again this year. But I think the competition's 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:58.680 gone up because I think Indianapolis it's gonna be a problem. 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:00.240 I really do. I think that they're going to. 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:02.560 Be an issue depending on Anthony richardson where they go. 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:06.160 We already know where Houston is. They found themselves, but 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:08.960 Bucky can tell you better than any one. Young teams 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:13.000 that play ignorant the first year out the second year 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:14.480 also they know what they can lose. 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:16.600 It's a different deal. I can't wait to see how 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:19.800 Houston handles expectation. Last year was just like. 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:25.040 I want to see how they handled the expectations going 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:25.600 in Tennessee. 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:26.360 We know is hitting the. 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:30.760 Reset, But so think about expectations, the expectations around Trevor Lawrence. 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:34.640 Everyone was expecting a major jump coming off that playoff performance. 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:36.360 Could he be a top five quarterback? 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:38.480 When you look at Trevor, because you've been around the league, 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:40.400 you've seen other quarterbacks, how do you kind of slot 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:42.800 him in the equation with the other elite quarterbacks are 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:43.280 I'm the league. 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:44.120 I haven't put it. 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:47.560 I can't put him in elite yet, but the elite potential, 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:48.840 it's all right there. 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:50.240 Everything that we see is right there. 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:52.600 Just what you talked about Bucky, the how he can't 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:54.920 bounce back in the playoff game even before, how he 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:59.440 played down the stretch. The Kansas City game encapsulated everything 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:01.240 for me last sure, and it was early, but it. 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:02.320 Encapsulated it all. 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:05.680 Some brilliant plays, But what it is is Jerry Glamville 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:07.840 used to say all the time, you know, you run 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:10.120 the football to set it tone, but when it's time 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:12.760 to ring that bell, you gotta be able to throw it. 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:15.640 And inside the red zone, they couldn't ring the bell 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:21.240 against Kansas City. And Trevor made two bad throws. And 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:23.280 when I say bad, throws the air mailed them. Right 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:26.320 receiver had a chance air meltal. Those are throws of 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:29.200 the elite quarterbacks don't miss. And I think one day 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:31.720 we'll be talking about Trevor Lawrence not missing those throws 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:34.000 and we'll be talking about being an elite quarterback. 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:36.560 Charles Davis with us here on Jags AM from the 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:40.600 Indiana Convention Center at the NFL Scouting Combine. So now 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:44.480 moving ahead, Jaguars have the seventeenth pick. We've talked throughout 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:45.080 the off season. 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:47.200 Card. 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:49.520 That's a lot of notes because I was up last 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:51.080 night to him thinking about the thing. 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:52.640 Those all your Jaguar notes. 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:57.080 No, no, these are multiple, multiple teams and multiple situations 0:15:57.120 --> 0:16:00.480 in the home because because you know that this is 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:04.800 like when like cards like that, like when like oh, 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:07.000 believe me he does don't don't, don't act like he does. 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:09.840 But like Winnie the Pooh something bear of little brain. 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:12.080 So I've had to make sure I put this all 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:13.520 down so I got a chance. 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:17.000 All right, Well, I mean, so moving ahead for the Jags, 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:19.960 right corner back, they got a new defensive coordinator coming in. 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:22.480 They couldn't stop to run the second half of the season, 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:25.680 so defensive line, especially the interior, might be something to 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:27.720 look at, but you got to protect the quarterback at 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:29.000 some point two in the interior. 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:32.240 So you know, right now, where are you listen? 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:35.960 Offensive tackles a loaded position. I mean, I think you 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:37.920 can get a really good one down at seventeen. So 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:39.880 if that's where you want to go, depending on where 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:41.440 the teams go, because we're gonna have a run on 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:44.040 quarterbacks early and it wouldn't be surprised, It would not 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:45.720 surprise me at all that some of these quarterbacks get 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:47.720 pushed up and create a second. 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:48.960 Run that we're going to have. 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:51.480 Right, So if you have that, that eats up spots 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:53.800 and then all of a sudden, what if the big. 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:56.440 Kid at Oregon State around. 0:16:58.200 --> 0:16:58.440 Right? 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:00.880 What if he's still available sitting there at that point? 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:03.000 You know, what's the kid at Penn State? 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:04.080 Oh? 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:09.399 So, so you know, it's just so many different names 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:12.320 that you're gonna go with. JC Latham, I love Autabama. 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:14.560 I feel like he's a right tackle. So if you're 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:17.439 thinking about true left tackle, that that might be an 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:19.720 interesting thing. If you're think about listen, I just sat 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:22.480 with Byron Murphy from Texas. If you're talking about interior 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:25.280 defensive lineman. Yes, that's a whole lot of man right there. 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:26.200 There's no question. 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:29.199 And at corner. I don't know he's gonna make it 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:30.560 down to you, but he might. 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:33.800