1 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: From Indianapolis, Indiana. Our coverage of the NFL Scouting Combine continues. 2 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: Lucas Oil Stadium, the site the on field testing beginning tomorrow, 3 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: but across the street in the Indiana Convention Center. Hot 4 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: and heavy on Radio Row in the Media Center and 5 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: welcome in its jags am from Radio Row in Indianapolis, 6 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: JP Shadwick, John Osier, and the King of the Combine 7 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: has arrived to sit in his throne all week long. 8 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: It's Bucky Brooks. Welcome to Indy man. 9 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: I'm excited to be here, Like it's one of my 10 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: favorite places, one of my favorite events to as end. 11 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 2: Get a chance to see you old colleagues, get a 12 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: chancey the new class of players coming in and catch. 13 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 3: It with you. Guys. 14 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 4: It's truly like the Pied Piper when you follow him 15 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 4: around here. I mean it's you can follow him. He is, 16 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 4: He's an icon. But I'm not sure Bucky, that your 17 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 4: event is going to be your event for that much longer. 18 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,199 Speaker 4: I think the Combine feels to me like it's changing. 19 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 4: We'll talk about that later in the show. 20 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, like definitely not the same. 21 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: Not as many people and not as many personnel coming 22 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: out to the bench, which is kind of depressing. 23 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: Everybody wants a piece of Everybody wants a piece of 24 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks. I mean the latest monk came out. We'll 25 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: get to that. It was yesterday, just in time for 26 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: the combine. In your visit here, and everybody wants to 27 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: talk to you about your selections for their team. 28 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, hopefully I can. 29 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: I can remember who I put there musical chairs. I mean, 30 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: you're sitting there laying on a Sunday night trying to 31 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 2: throw darts to try and figure out who's and what's what. 32 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: It's a lot of fun. But right now the Monks 33 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: will not have as much accuracy. We haven't even done 34 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: free agency yet. No, I haven't got anything. I haven't 35 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: cut players yet. Yeah, we're still trying to figure it out. 36 00:01:55,880 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 4: Not have as much accus so they'll have like less close. 37 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: As you can kind of narrow it down. But yeah, 38 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: like you know, like right now we're really guessing. Yes, 39 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: this clickbait a little bit, a little bit, a little 40 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: just a little it's a little clickbait, clickbait. 41 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: Imagine that Bucky Brooks with clickbait. Charles Davis, NFL Network, 42 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: CBS Sports, Serrius XM Radio coming up in just a 43 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: little bit. He's around Radio row as well. He'll join 44 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: us here in the program in just a little while. 45 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: Of course, the big reason why we are here every 46 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: year is that the GM and head coach speak with 47 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: the media, and they did that yesterday, Trent Balke and 48 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson really setting the tone for the start of 49 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: the twenty four campaign and beyond. The league year officially 50 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,119 Speaker 1: begins March thirteenth, but this is really the start where 51 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: the messaging begins for how they're going to move forward. 52 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: John and Hey, collective front was the idea, right. There 53 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: was a lot of noise in the system after the 54 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: nine and eight and the collapse to get there and 55 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: miss the playoffs. But both were out there yesterday and 56 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: now they have a course moving ahead. 57 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought both of them on our show, and 58 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 4: then when they're on the podium the nice job setting 59 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 4: the tone and clarifying which Trent had said a couple 60 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 4: of weeks ago. Look, this was a nine and eighteen, 61 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 4: it was not a one in sixteen team. They don't 62 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 4: feel like they're far away. Trend on the podium probably 63 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 4: said it best. Very disappointed by the end of last season, 64 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 4: but focused on moving forward. But yeah, I don't think 65 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 4: they're that far away. Do you agree with what they 66 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 4: were saying? And are there are there moves that they 67 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 4: can make? Are there things that they can do quote 68 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 4: easily to get to where they want to go? 69 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: I think so. Look, I don't think the team is 70 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,119 Speaker 2: far away. I mean, it's funny. It's just the way 71 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: that the team finished that that led to disappoint. 72 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 4: It was a nine and eighth three fourteen. 73 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it just it just felt bad, just 74 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,839 Speaker 2: because the tail spin that the team went on down 75 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 2: the stretch, but also coincided with Trevor Lawrence suffering a 76 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 2: handful of injuries not being able to play at his best, 77 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 2: but also not having Christian Kirk there having a handful 78 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: of other injuries to impact the performance and that. 79 00:03:58,960 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's this. 80 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 2: It's clearly an excuse because injuries are going to happen. 81 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 2: But if you go back and look at the amount 82 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: of closed games that they lost, how they lost those games, 83 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: and the performers of their star players, the injuries did 84 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: have a big impact on the way the team finished 85 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 2: the season. 86 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: A lot of talk yesterday Doug Peterson, of course, is 87 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: at the podium I will hear from these guys coming 88 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: up some bites from yesterday. But then after I had 89 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: a little scrum off to the side with the local 90 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: media as they often do here before the run to 91 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: Radio Row, and that's when the offensive play calling question 92 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: line started to come up. John, you were standing right there, 93 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: and Doug Peterson said, Hey, everything's under evaluation still. 94 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 95 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 4: He expressed great faith in Press Taylor, which I do 96 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 4: believe he has. He didn't waiver from Press all year. 97 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 4: I think Doug's thought on it is that him and 98 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 4: Press are of such like mind if there's not much 99 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 4: of a difference what I'm called plays in the first 100 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 4: half one and second half in twenty two. But that 101 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 4: being said, Brent Martin, I didn't nicely have asked the question. 102 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 4: Doug might be one of the best play callers in 103 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 4: the NFL. And Brent's question to him was, if you're 104 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 4: that good at it, sort of doesn't it make sense 105 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 4: for you to call it no matter how good Press 106 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 4: is at it? And you know that made sense to me, 107 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 4: And Doug didn't really address that question in particular, but 108 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 4: he certainly left the door open to call plays. 109 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 3: Bucky Well, I think as a head coach. 110 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 2: Ultimately, you have veto power and you're responsible for the 111 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,799 Speaker 2: performance of the team, and as the noise escalates around 112 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: the team, sometimes as a head coach, you got to 113 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: jump in there. I do often wonder when your superpower 114 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 2: is you're one of the best. 115 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 3: Play callers in the league. 116 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,559 Speaker 2: To see control of that, to me, sometimes you wonder why. 117 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,559 Speaker 2: But I think the great example for Doug is looking 118 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 2: at his old mentor, Andy Reid, and Andy Reid has 119 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: been able to cycle through a few offensive coordinators, guys 120 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 2: who have called plays, but when it assists the same Yeah, 121 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 2: But then when it gets down to it, Andy recalls 122 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 2: the plays in those critical moments. And so maybe it's 123 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: a bit of that ying and yang where look fresh 124 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 2: you call it, but in some of these gotta have 125 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: it moments, or based on the field on the floor 126 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 2: of the game, maybe he has to step in and 127 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 2: do maybe a little more of the play call and 128 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 2: than he did last year. 129 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 4: And Doug did say, and I believe it's from talking 130 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 4: to head coaches over the years. He liked that thirty 131 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 4: thousand feet view all right, that you're able to get 132 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 4: when you don't have your nose sort of in the 133 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:36,799 Speaker 4: play sheet game situations and maybe he's sort of adjusting 134 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 4: to that a little bit. How to best balance that? 135 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 4: Does that make sense Buck Well? 136 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, because when you're the head coach, there's so many 137 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 2: other things that you response before outside of just being 138 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 2: the offensive play caller. You have to understand what the 139 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: defense is doing, what issues are giving them problems, the 140 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 2: special teams, how you want to tie it all together. 141 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 2: Sometimes when you're the play caller, it it's harder to 142 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 2: kind of manage the entire game and kind of coordinate 143 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 2: all the different phases to the to the team that's it. 144 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: He has been such a good play call that he 145 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 2: has done one of his big quarterbacks throughout his time. 146 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: You do wonder by stepping back, how does it impact 147 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 2: the thing? 148 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 5: I kind of liken it to. I mean, like playing 149 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 5: a video game. 150 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 2: You and I can all play with the same team, 151 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 2: but we have our own different styles and flavor that 152 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: we add to it. Doug Peterson's flavor is a lot 153 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 2: different than Press Taylor, and so I don't know, I 154 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: kind of missed some of the dug stuff that he 155 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 2: was doing the first year in Jacksonville. 156 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: And he made reference yesterday also to you know, had 157 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: to step back a little bit. Some other things were 158 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: going on off to the side, and I guess you 159 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: can infer that maybe it was some defensive issues he 160 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: had to kind of oversee a little bit more, and 161 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: maybe with a new coordinator in may not have to 162 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: do as much of on that side of the ball. 163 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: He's not really used to that, and maybe he can 164 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: get back to some of that. 165 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 4: He certainly said he hoped that, you know, you hope 166 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 4: your defensive coordinator high right, Nielsen works out where he's 167 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 4: that guy. He didn't say that Mike Caldwell wasn't, but 168 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 4: he made reference to that a little bit. Didn't really 169 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 4: get into what he was talking about, so to speak, 170 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 4: of what he had to address. But if you change 171 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 4: your dynamic just a little, then in big moments, maybe 172 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 4: that changes it a lot. 173 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it does change it a lot. 174 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 2: And so here's the thing about an offensive head coach 175 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 2: play caller. When you're the play caller and the head coach, 176 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 2: a lot of times you want a defensive head coach, 177 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 2: meaning the defensive cordin is in charge of that side 178 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 2: of the ball and you're just able to work on 179 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 2: focus on offense and not entrust it. But because Mike 180 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 2: Halweb might have been having some issues on that side. 181 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 2: He had to step in and do more, and that 182 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 2: distracted him from being able to concentrate on what he 183 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 2: wanted to do on offense. 184 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 1: Our guest today on Jags Am from the NFL on CBS, 185 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: NFL Network, Serious XM Radio. I guess another king of 186 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 1: the combine. I didn't know there were multiple cash it's 187 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: Charles Davis Kings. Yes, what's up, Charles? How are you? 188 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 6: I'm doing great? Yeah, we got yeah, Yeah, we're good. 189 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 6: Got I'm doing I'm doing well. It's so great to 190 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 6: see all of you. And Bucky's got to be sick 191 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 6: of me, because Bucky just spent a week with me 192 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 6: in New Orleans, the HBCU All story, the legacy story. 193 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 6: But thank goodness, I get a chance to hang with 194 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 6: all of you again. 195 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 3: This is great. 196 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: Good to see you. And we're reviewing Doug Peterson and 197 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: Trent Balkey at the podium yesterday, Jaguars leadership and some 198 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: of the play calling storylines that have come out of 199 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: that on the offensive. So you saw the Jags how 200 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 1: many times last year? 201 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 3: God? 202 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 5: We saw him what three times? I believe last year? 203 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 6: I think I think it was three times. I know 204 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 6: we saw you in Pittsburgh. It was a good win 205 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 6: there Kansas City at home early when it was three 206 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 6: and twenty seven degrees. 207 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 3: It was very high. 208 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 6: I will tell you this is a true story. The 209 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 6: people who bring you games and televised games and will 210 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 6: always get overlooked because you know, you know what's about 211 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 6: our camera people happened to be out there and that 212 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 6: that so person who runs the handheld. 213 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 5: You know, we got it on your shoulder and you're 214 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 5: doing it. Those cameras are black. 215 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 6: Okay, Black's not the color you want in the heat, right, 216 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 6: you don't want any of that. 217 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 5: It was so hot. Literally had to go to the 218 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 5: hospital with burns on his hand. 219 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 3: Wow. 220 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 5: Oh okay. And we had another camera person fall out 221 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 5: that day. 222 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 6: It was brutally, brutally hot heck of a football game 223 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 6: and Jacksonville had multiple opportunities to win. 224 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 5: It couldn't score in the red zone. 225 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 3: Now you know a couple of years. Yeah, that's the deal. 226 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: So we're talking about offensive play call and Doug Peterson 227 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 1: didn't close the door yesterday on taking it back. 228 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 6: And you know something, he shouldn't And I don't mean 229 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 6: that as a slam against Press Taylor or anything like that. 230 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 5: You're the head coach. What is best for your team. 231 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 6: The only thing I would say, and Doug needs no 232 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 6: advice from me, but look at what Carolina did last 233 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 6: year and don't do that. And this is this is 234 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 6: coming from someone with full respect for Frank Reich, because 235 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 6: I love Frank Reich. I hated how it went for 236 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 6: him at Carolina. But to say, you're going to be 237 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 6: the play caller with a rookie quarterback who's number one, 238 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 6: turn it over mid season and then take it back Bucky, 239 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 6: that's a quarterback. Yeah, it's well, when you commit and go, 240 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 6: that's all I say. 241 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 3: It is hard. 242 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 2: So we were having a conversation before you came on, 243 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 2: and we were talking about maybe he learned something from 244 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 2: watching Andy Reid. You certainly have seen the Kancity Chiefs, 245 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 2: and it appears that even though he has a coordinator 246 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 2: who is calling plays and Big Red, big Red takes over. 247 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 2: And so I do wonder do you think that Doug 248 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 2: can kind of pick up the phone call and they say, 249 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 2: how do I navigate? 250 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 3: How do I manage this situation where I'm a. 251 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: Really good play caller, I have a young guy that 252 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 2: I want to groom for kind of an elevated role. 253 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 2: How do I kind of dip in and dip out 254 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 2: when it comes to play call? 255 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 5: He absolutely can call him. You know that Andy's gonna 256 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 5: take that call. Those are all his kids, all right. 257 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 5: He groomed him. 258 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 6: Plus he can go back and remember his experience because 259 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 6: Andy was still calling the plays and Doug wasn't a 260 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 6: full time play caller when he came. Remember how Andy 261 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 6: would let him call parts of things in different spots and. 262 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 5: Then crunched down. 263 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 6: I got it, I got it, and then off they 264 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 6: would go. So he remembers how it all went. 265 00:11:59,360 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 5: To me. 266 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 6: It is much more about what you were saying. You're 267 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 6: rooming a young play caller. If you want to call plays, 268 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 6: How do I do this with this young play caller? 269 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 6: Where that young play caller I don't lose him because 270 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 6: he feels like I've taken something from him. That's gonna 271 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 6: be the key if it Doug Peterson wants to do that. 272 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 6: Mike McCarthy went through it. Remember he gave up play calling, 273 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 6: but he always took it back in the off season 274 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 6: and was definitive about it. When he would take it back, 275 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 6: it wasn't during season. 276 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 3: I'm taking it. 277 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 5: I think that's where Doug is going right now with 278 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 5: his dilemma. 279 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 3: Charles. 280 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 4: Right before you got here, we were talking about Jaguars season. 281 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 4: Obviously it finished disastrously, which sort of made a nine 282 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 4: and eight season feel like three and fourteen, right you 283 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 4: maybe being a bit separate from it, where we got 284 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 4: to get into the minutia overall, where do you see 285 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 4: this team? Can you bounce back from what happened at 286 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 4: the end of last year? How do you assess it 287 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 4: going forward? 288 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that they can. It was a major shocker. 289 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not going to sit here in sugarcoat. 290 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 5: The whole thing is. 291 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 6: I watched it go kept thinking they're going to figure 292 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 6: this thing out, this is going to this is going 293 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 6: to happen, They're going to be Okay. 294 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 5: The last time we saw you was Cleveland, right and 295 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 5: that which was terrible. It was terrible. 296 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 6: But you remember that was right after the Monday Night 297 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 6: or where where Trevor got rolled up and we weren't 298 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,719 Speaker 6: sure he was going to play and he came out 299 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 6: and played. Look, two seasons in a row in the 300 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 6: AFC South, the division title was locked up at mid season, 301 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 6: and neither one of those teams won the Division Tennessee 302 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 6: the year before you reeled them in. 303 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 5: Last year it was you. Houston comes in. 304 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 6: I think it's fixable because I think the culture that 305 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 6: Doug Peterson sets. 306 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 5: Up is fine. 307 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 6: I mean this, This is not other cultures that may 308 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 6: exist around the league, where once you collapse like that, 309 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 6: there's no coming back. 310 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 5: I don't see that at all. 311 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 6: And I think he and Trent Balky make the key 312 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 6: the key decisions that have to be made in order 313 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 6: to improve this team. And I expect him to fight 314 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 6: it out again this year. But I think the competition's 315 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 6: gone up because I think Indianapolis it's gonna be a problem. 316 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 5: I really do. I think that they're going to. 317 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 6: Be an issue depending on Anthony richardson where they go. 318 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 6: We already know where Houston is. They found themselves, but 319 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 6: Bucky can tell you better than any one. Young teams 320 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 6: that play ignorant the first year out the second year 321 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 6: also they know what they can lose. 322 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 5: It's a different deal. I can't wait to see how 323 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 5: Houston handles expectation. Last year was just like. 324 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 6: I want to see how they handled the expectations going 325 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 6: in Tennessee. 326 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 5: We know is hitting the. 327 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 2: Reset, But so think about expectations, the expectations around Trevor Lawrence. 328 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 2: Everyone was expecting a major jump coming off that playoff performance. 329 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 3: Could he be a top five quarterback? 330 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 2: When you look at Trevor, because you've been around the league, 331 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 2: you've seen other quarterbacks, how do you kind of slot 332 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 2: him in the equation with the other elite quarterbacks are 333 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 2: I'm the league. 334 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 5: I haven't put it. 335 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 6: I can't put him in elite yet, but the elite potential, 336 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 6: it's all right there. 337 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 5: Everything that we see is right there. 338 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 6: Just what you talked about Bucky, the how he can't 339 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 6: bounce back in the playoff game even before, how he 340 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 6: played down the stretch. The Kansas City game encapsulated everything 341 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 6: for me last sure, and it was early, but it. 342 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 5: Encapsulated it all. 343 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 6: Some brilliant plays, But what it is is Jerry Glamville 344 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 6: used to say all the time, you know, you run 345 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 6: the football to set it tone, but when it's time 346 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 6: to ring that bell, you gotta be able to throw it. 347 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 6: And inside the red zone, they couldn't ring the bell 348 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 6: against Kansas City. And Trevor made two bad throws. And 349 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 6: when I say bad, throws the air mailed them. Right 350 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 6: receiver had a chance air meltal. Those are throws of 351 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 6: the elite quarterbacks don't miss. And I think one day 352 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 6: we'll be talking about Trevor Lawrence not missing those throws 353 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 6: and we'll be talking about being an elite quarterback. 354 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: Charles Davis with us here on Jags AM from the 355 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: Indiana Convention Center at the NFL Scouting Combine. So now 356 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: moving ahead, Jaguars have the seventeenth pick. We've talked throughout 357 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: the off season. 358 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 3: Card. 359 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 6: That's a lot of notes because I was up last 360 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 6: night to him thinking about the thing. 361 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: Those all your Jaguar notes. 362 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 6: No, no, these are multiple, multiple teams and multiple situations 363 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 6: in the home because because you know that this is 364 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 6: like when like cards like that, like when like oh, 365 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 6: believe me he does don't don't, don't act like he does. 366 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 5: But like Winnie the Pooh something bear of little brain. 367 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 6: So I've had to make sure I put this all 368 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 6: down so I got a chance. 369 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: All right, Well, I mean, so moving ahead for the Jags, 370 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: right corner back, they got a new defensive coordinator coming in. 371 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: They couldn't stop to run the second half of the season, 372 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: so defensive line, especially the interior, might be something to 373 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: look at, but you got to protect the quarterback at 374 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: some point two in the interior. 375 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 5: So you know, right now, where are you listen? 376 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 6: Offensive tackles a loaded position. I mean, I think you 377 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 6: can get a really good one down at seventeen. So 378 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 6: if that's where you want to go, depending on where 379 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 6: the teams go, because we're gonna have a run on 380 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 6: quarterbacks early and it wouldn't be surprised, It would not 381 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 6: surprise me at all that some of these quarterbacks get 382 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 6: pushed up and create a second. 383 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 5: Run that we're going to have. 384 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 6: Right, So if you have that, that eats up spots 385 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 6: and then all of a sudden, what if the big. 386 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 5: Kid at Oregon State around. 387 00:16:58,200 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 3: Right? 388 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 6: What if he's still available sitting there at that point? 389 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 6: You know, what's the kid at Penn State? 390 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 4: Oh? 391 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 6: So, so you know, it's just so many different names 392 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 6: that you're gonna go with. JC Latham, I love Autabama. 393 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 6: I feel like he's a right tackle. So if you're 394 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 6: thinking about true left tackle, that that might be an 395 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 6: interesting thing. If you're think about listen, I just sat 396 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 6: with Byron Murphy from Texas. If you're talking about interior 397 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 6: defensive lineman. Yes, that's a whole lot of man right there. 398 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 5: There's no question. 399 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 6: And at corner. I don't know he's gonna make it 400 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 6: down to you, but he might. 401 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 5: Rigstraw, Oh, Missouri. 402 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 6: The reason I say that is because in your division 403 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 6: there's a running back in Indianapolis. Are going to try 404 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 6: and get going again, Houston. Actually you got defensive head 405 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 6: minded head coach. He'd like to run the ball a 406 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 6: little bit more. And they started to do that, trying 407 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 6: to emerge who it was. Damian Pierce had a bad year, 408 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 6: but they jumped that back up again because Devin Singletary 409 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 6: played really well in Tennessee. 410 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 5: With Brian Callahan. 411 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 6: I don't rule that out because if they do find 412 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 6: a way to resign, Derrick Henry as a good starting 413 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 6: blot from because he's gonna have a young quarterback. 414 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 5: But Rakestraw will tackle out at the corner. 415 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 6: So I know we're talking about Terry and Arnold, right, 416 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 6: we're talking about Nate Wiggins hit Clemson. All that, you'll 417 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 6: have an opportunity for an elite corner. 418 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 5: I think if you want one at seventeen. 419 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: That's the way you went, Bucky on your latest mock 420 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: one of seventeen mocks, you're. 421 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 5: Gonna which one did you? Who'd you have in Nate Wiggins? 422 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 2: And part of that is because Ryan Nielsen coming in 423 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 2: Christy Sharp, the way they want to play on the perimeter, 424 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 2: a lot of press coverage doing those things. But you 425 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 2: had a chance to see someone that is of interest 426 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 2: Quinnon Mitchell, Yeah, from Toledo. You had a chance to 427 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 2: see him down at the Senior Bowl. What can you 428 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 2: tell us about this small school standout? 429 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 6: This kid, to me, has a plan when he lines 430 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 6: up to play. He's one of those side saddle guys, right, 431 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 6: meaning he wants to be able to look back into 432 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 6: your what your offense is doing. So he wants to 433 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 6: be on the outside of the receiver and kind of 434 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 6: catch you at break points and then go get you. 435 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 6: A week at the Senior Bowl, I thought that, you know, really, 436 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 6: I thought he lost like one major route. And by 437 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 6: the way, it's a five yard game. It was against 438 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 6: Roman Wilson, and Roman threw about eight moves in including 439 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 6: the last one, and at the end of the day, 440 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 6: you're like, okay, five yards, I'll give that up. For 441 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 6: the most part, he competes for anything downfield. 442 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 5: The year before it was a major ball hawk. He 443 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 5: took the ball away. 444 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 6: Didn't get as many opportunities last year, but he still 445 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 6: had almost the same number of passes broken up. I 446 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 6: think he's a legit item. I was really impressed by 447 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 6: what I saw. And if somehow that's the guy, I 448 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 6: don't see any reason why he you know, that wouldn't 449 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 6: be a good pick for you. 450 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: All right, Charles's final thoughts with you here. What's the 451 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: rest of your week looking like? 452 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 6: Here in Indye hanging out with Bucky here, because because 453 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 6: we're both about to get ready to go to work 454 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 6: for NFL Network on the draft stuff Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, 455 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 6: you know, check your local TV list things like we 456 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 6: used to say, and I'll be doing that. But the 457 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 6: truth of the matter is I'm still playing catch up, 458 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 6: you know, and trying to learn all these kids and 459 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 6: learn all these prospects. And this is valuable for people 460 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 6: like me, like guys who do it year round, they 461 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 6: should be in pretty good shape. 462 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 5: And this is it's not finishing school. 463 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 6: But you know what I'm saying, right, hockey for me, 464 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 6: this is like the first day of school, okay, And 465 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 6: so it's it's a lot of fun. I've done work, 466 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 6: don't get me wrong, but at the same time, and 467 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 6: I get to see them move and do all the 468 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 6: other things. So that's gonna be a lot of fun. 469 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 6: And I'll be spending a lot of time on the field, 470 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 6: which really really is fun for me. It keeps me 471 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 6: involved and I'm right around these kids and I get 472 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 6: to kind of do. 473 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 5: You measure a little bit? 474 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 4: Right? 475 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, that's sort of a sort of a deal. 476 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 6: We were in New Orleans and there was a quarterback 477 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 6: that we liked, and both of us were walking in 478 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 6: the field and we made sure we got next to 479 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 6: them so we can kind of measure them them up, 480 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 6: size them up. 481 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 5: That's what you get to do here at the Combine. 482 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 1: You're the best, Charles. 483 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 5: Thanks, I'm so great to see you guys. Continue success. 484 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 6: I'll be up to bout you during training camp, maybe 485 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 6: even before, and I hope we get some more games. 486 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: Funny ahead that Charles Davis, We're back with more in 487 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 1: a moment. It's jags Am from Indeed. Welcome back to Indianapolis. 488 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 1: Jags Am continues. Move the Freight, Move the Freight. Magellan 489 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 1: Transportation voted coolest office based in Jacksonville. Apply online at 490 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: Magellanlogistics dot com. Magellan is spelled m A g E 491 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: l l a N. It's jags am from Indianapolis Or 492 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 1: thanks to Charles Davis, John Ozier, Bucky Brooks with us 493 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 1: here on Radio Row. Trent Balke and Doug Peterson joined 494 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: us at the table here yesterday and we asked them 495 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: both about the days following the season, the meetings, and 496 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: how they found a path forward. 497 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 7: The biggest thing, too, is just talking to players, and 498 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 7: we had really good, good conversations with players at the 499 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 7: end of the year. You know, just how can we 500 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 7: as a staff help them and do and do better? 501 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 3: Right? 502 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 7: And and you know, so that's kind of where it 503 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 7: starts for me, That's where it starts, and really with 504 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 7: the players and making sure that that I'm doing and 505 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 7: the staff is doing everything in our power to make 506 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 7: sure that they have the best available to them on 507 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 7: the football field, can execute and we can execute at 508 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 7: a high level, because obviously the last month we. 509 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 3: Didn't do that. 510 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 8: When you end up the way we did that, there's 511 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 8: the wise and the first thing you have to do 512 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 8: is answer those questions, what are the wise? 513 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 3: How do we end up there? And I think we 514 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 3: did that. 515 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 8: We assessed it, and if we do that and we 516 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 8: make the changes that we feel we need to make, 517 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 8: we're going to be looking back and saying this was 518 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 8: a good process that we went through. This organization maybe 519 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 8: needed to go through this to get to where we 520 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 8: ultimately want to go. Nobody likes to lose, nobody likes 521 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 8: to be out of the playoffs, but really, at the 522 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 8: end of the day, there's only one team standing that's 523 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 8: happy with how their season ended. 524 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 3: We obviously weren't happy. 525 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 8: We got together, we sat down, we talked it through, 526 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 8: we made it a plan along with the rest of 527 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 8: the stabs, both personnel and coaching, and now it's time 528 00:22:58,080 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 8: to execute it. 529 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: That, of course, was yesterday Trim Balke and Doug Peterson. 530 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: The full conversation with both here at the table available 531 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: now on Jaguars dot com, and those are take us 532 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: through some of those. I don't know how many of 533 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 1: those kind of conversations after a season you might have 534 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: been involved with in a scouting capacity, but those are 535 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: not fun, but they have to be had. 536 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 2: It's an important reset, right, Yeah, It's an important reset 537 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 2: because what you want to do is you want to 538 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 2: tell the truth, you want. 539 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 3: To honestly assess where your team is. 540 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 2: And it's one thing to be hopeful and optimistic about 541 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 2: what the team is going to accomplish, but after the season, 542 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 2: you saw exactly what the team was and you have 543 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 2: to evaluate the team for as it was. 544 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 5: It's a nine and eight team. Where can we get better? 545 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 2: What is the personnel actually like From an ego standpoint, 546 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 2: do we need to give our draftees more opportunities or 547 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 2: do we need to move on from some of the 548 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 2: guys that have underperformed. All of those things have to 549 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 2: be included in the conversation, and you want to put 550 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 2: the best plan together that allows you to get back 551 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 2: and to look be a better team than they were 552 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 2: last year. And sometimes it takes having to those hard 553 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 2: conversations and making tough decisions in the offseason about who 554 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 2: remains on the Jaguars who's not. 555 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: You'll think that some of those began though, as the 556 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: season was starting to wind. Now, they don't just magically start, no, 557 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: you know, January. 558 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 4: Eighth, But the tone changes, right, Yeah, you sort of 559 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 4: stop hoping a guy is going to get better in 560 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 4: the last few weeks, and then you say, okay, well, 561 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 4: he's not or we know now we have to move 562 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 4: on from this veteran. Do we like this rookie's coming 563 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 4: up behind him? So this these last six seven weeks 564 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 4: always fascinate me because you wind up at the combine. 565 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 4: Now everybody it's the cliche, and everybody really is O 566 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 4: and O again, everybody really has hope. To me, I 567 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,479 Speaker 4: liked what Doug and Trent said here yesterday, you know, 568 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 4: but now they have to go execute it. 569 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, they have to go execute it. 570 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 2: And it's really important given all of the fodder that 571 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 2: existed in Jacksonville about the two being kind of like 572 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 2: having an acrimonious relationship or whatever. Can they get on 573 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 2: the same page and can they make decisions that are 574 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 2: in the best entries of the team and not individual agendas, 575 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 2: And so whether it's free agency, draft picks or whatever, 576 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 2: everything has to be done with what is best for 577 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 2: the Jaguars in mind, and that requires taking an honest 578 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 2: assessment of the team and where they need to make 579 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 2: improvements to get this team to where we know they 580 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 2: want to go. 581 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: We've got plenty ahead. We'll take a time out back 582 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: in a moment. We'll hear from Daniel Jeremiah fard of him. 583 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 3: Oh DJ, he joined the podcast. 584 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: Yes, move the sticks pod right, should be fun. Back 585 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 1: in a moment. We'll hear from him, and then we've 586 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: got time a little later fanatics fan questions, Oh, we 587 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 1: put out the cat signal and we've come up with 588 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 1: some good ones. 589 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 5: Cool. 590 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 1: We'll see if we can match that with good answers 591 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: as well. That's a little bit later, and this is 592 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: jaggs af. 593 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 3: The receiver group. We can say this every year is loaded. 594 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 9: I have twelve in my top fifty which I posted 595 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 9: to the day that the record is eleven receivers going 596 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 9: in the top fifty. That happened twice. One of those 597 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 9: years was nineteen ninety four and the eleventh receiver. 598 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 3: Was Bucky Brooks. How about that. That's a little nugget 599 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 3: for you. Wow. 600 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 9: So I think there's a chance that could go down 601 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 9: this year. I think we could see that many receivers. 602 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 9: It is stacked wide receivers, deep tackles, deep offensive tackles, 603 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 9: deep corner. Has a good amount of depth there. It's 604 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 9: an interesting kind of hero zero draft this year. 605 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: Welcome back as Shags A m from the Indiana Convention Center, Indianapolis, 606 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: JP Shadwick, John Oser, and Bucky Brooks. That was Daniel Jeremiah, 607 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: NFL Network Draft analyst and the full conversation available now 608 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: on Jaguars dot Com. Eleventh receiver that year. 609 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 2: Huh yeah, eleventh receiver and based on the way to 610 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 2: career played that I probably shouldn't have been eleven, Like 611 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 2: I had to go and play deepense. 612 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 5: So I don't even really count. 613 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 2: But versatility, the versatility, But I think it's a great 614 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 2: point what we're seeing, and it's been talked about on 615 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 2: other platforms and other mediums. This is the byproduct of 616 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 2: what we call seven on seven culture. These kids are 617 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 2: being exposed to the passing game earlier. They're having more 618 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 2: reps and more opportunities to catch the ball and do 619 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 2: things where they master the passing game. 620 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 3: And so it's not a surprise that. 621 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 5: Each and every year we see a very deep. 622 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 2: And talented collection of pass catchers make their way to 623 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 2: the league. It's really hopeful because if you're the Jaguars, 624 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 2: you don't have to expend the first round pick to 625 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 2: get a quality wide receiver. Second third round, there would 626 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 2: be people that are available that can come in and contribute. 627 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 5: And so it's a position that you always can keep. 628 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 2: An eye on because you can't find contributors outside of 629 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 2: the first round. 630 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 4: Okay, conceptually, Bucky, does that turn it in terms of 631 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 4: the draft long term? Does that make it sort of 632 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 4: like running back where unless you're special special that it 633 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 4: drives there? It should drives it down. 634 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it should because we talk about some line demand. 635 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 2: If you're having so many talented players that are so 636 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 2: closely graded, it should allow you to go elsewhere for 637 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 2: a position that has a shallower pool to then come 638 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 2: back in and get it in. 639 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 3: When you look at guys like. 640 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 2: Puka Nakula, fifth round pick that comes out of nowhere 641 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 2: and plays at a high level, you think about our 642 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 2: nemesis in our division, Tankdale and what he was able 643 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 2: to do immediately for the Houston Texans, And the list 644 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 2: goes on and on about these receivers that were taken 645 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 2: outside of the first round that popped immediately. Yeah, you 646 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 2: certainly can find receiver outside of the first round that 647 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 2: can come in and be a big time player. 648 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 1: Where are you We've talked a little bit with Charles 649 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:43,479 Speaker 1: about this, but you know, cornerback in this defense, you know, 650 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: is it the highest priority? Where would you rank the 651 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: priorities of need right now. 652 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 2: For the Jags, I'm always going to op for somewhere 653 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 2: up somebody up front over as opposed to somebody in 654 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 2: the back end, particularly a defensive tackle, because it depending 655 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 2: on how they decide to play. Trayvon Walker ultimately determines 656 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 2: is her edge play player is a guy that moves 657 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 2: inside as a tweener. Do you need another pass rusher 658 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 2: on nickel downs when it's obvious passing situations. A lot 659 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 2: of that will be determined those conversations they have with 660 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 2: Ryan Nilsen what division of the defense is in terms 661 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 2: of the cornerback position. You can get some guys outside 662 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 2: of the first round that can do it, but I 663 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 2: would say the pool that cornerback is deeper than. 664 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 3: The pool at edge rusher. 665 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 2: And so if edge rusher is a priority, like we 666 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 2: think it always is, you got to invest in the 667 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 2: edge rusher or the defensive tackle early, come back and 668 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 2: get the corner later. 669 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 4: And then what do you do interior your offensive line? 670 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 4: I mean, it's always hard because you wish you had 671 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 4: three picks in the top twenty instead of one. 672 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I would say this, there's some guys that 673 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 2: are intriguing. The conversation revolves around guard and center. There's 674 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 2: been a lot of conversation about center. It's a really 675 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 2: solid center class the guys that you can get, but 676 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 2: also with the offensive guards. You can get those guys. 677 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 2: But you have to remember we're at a time there 678 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 2: where all of these guys are like swing players, meaning 679 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 2: they can play multiple spots. For instance, there's a guy 680 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 2: from Duke coming out grand Board who's a outstanding player, 681 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 2: but he's a tackle, but he also has center experience, 682 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 2: and so trying to find guys that can do multiple things. 683 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 3: That might be the way to go because you start a. 684 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 2: House side kee comm inside try and find a place 685 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 2: for them to be able to put your best five 686 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 2: on the field. 687 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 4: At the same time, Award Mighty used to say, the 688 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 4: kids always should learn how to snap, because you gotta have. 689 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 2: Everybody needs to learn how to snap. Everybody, Hey, everybody snap. 690 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 2: You should be snapping right now during breaks. 691 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: We got a minute and a half. I'll learn in 692 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: a hurry. We're back in a moment. The fanatics fan 693 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: questions and we'll wrap it up after this. From Indianapolis, 694 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: this is jags Am. 695 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,239 Speaker 10: You know that's an aygoing discussion that we're having with 696 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 10: his agent. In fact, later today I'm gonna have another 697 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 10: meeting with him as well, So just ongoing. 698 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 3: I don't want to speculate on that. 699 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 8: Let's just you know, we got a week, a little 700 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 8: over a week to work with here. We're gonna work 701 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 8: diligently with his agent to try to come to a resolution. 702 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 3: On this thing. 703 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 10: So that's that's where our focus is right now. 704 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: Strip Balky of course at the podium yesterday. The full 705 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: podium access available at tag wars dot com for both 706 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: he and Doug Peterson. Welcome back. It's jags am k P. 707 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: Shabrick on oser Bucky Brooks Our thanks to Charles Davis. 708 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: That was obviously with the Josh Allen negotiations ongoing, and 709 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: that was yesterday. Apparently meetings yesterday with the representation. The 710 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: same idea for Calvin Ridley. Bulky said that they met 711 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: with Ridley one on one in the office last week, 712 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: so that conversation is ongoing, and said don't worry about 713 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: the draft picks off as much. They want to get 714 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: the player. Yeah, and no matter what that takes. Okay. 715 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 4: Also supposed to meet with Ezra Cleveland's people at some 716 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,239 Speaker 4: point this week as well. So that's going on. 717 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: A lot happened that time of year. And then what 718 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: March fifth is the deadline for the franchise tag book 719 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: He the second part of that answer. 720 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, so there are a lot of things that you're 721 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 2: trying to juggle. The one thing that everyone needs to 722 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 2: be aware of and this bowls well for the players 723 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 2: and wells as a team. The salary cap going up. 724 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 2: Surprising number goes up by thirty million dollars, and so 725 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 2: that opens up opportunities to do some things. So, for instance, 726 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 2: we kind of thought that maybe Cam Robinson would be 727 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,239 Speaker 2: gone when now the cap goes up, that conversation has 728 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 2: kind of shifted a little bit, which helps the team 729 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 2: in terms of that having the harmony, the continuity on 730 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 2: the offensive line. The number going up also helps when 731 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 2: it comes to trying to fit in a bigger contract 732 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 2: with Josh Allen and maybe Calvin Ridley. How does it go? 733 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 2: You have to be optimistic if these things are going 734 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 2: to shift. The Calvin Ridley conversation changes though, because t 735 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 2: Higgins sign into franchise Tag, what's Nail available on the 736 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 2: free agent market? 737 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 3: Say what you want about him? 738 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 2: He now becomes a more and more key free agent, 739 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 2: and so that could be that could cost a few 740 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 2: more coins to retain a service. 741 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, can let him go all of a sudden, You're 742 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 4: trying to replace eight touchdowns in a thousand yards. 743 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: So I. 744 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 4: Like that eight touchdowns one thousand. 745 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. Who doesn't. Time now for the Fanatics 746 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: fan questions. DAGs fans gear up at fanatics dot com 747 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: with all the latest DAG styles. Shop now and get 748 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: today's special offer. Fanatics dot Com officially licensed everything. We 749 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: put the cat signal out earlier last night. Here's the 750 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: best we've come up with at climber Yoda two five 751 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: eight eight nine. What are the chances of bringing to 752 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: Neil Hunter and keeping Josh Allen as well? Seeing a 753 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: few reports that link us to Hunter. 754 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 2: Look, that would be great, but you're gonna have to 755 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 2: give up something to get him. But it would be 756 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 2: fantastic to be able to pair Josh Allen with Daniel 757 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 2: Hunter and to have Trademon Walker, because to win at 758 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 2: the highest level you need to have three pass rushes, 759 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 2: two outside, one inside. That would allow you to kick 760 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 2: Trademon Walking inside on some of those special downs. 761 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 3: I would like it but now can you pull it off? 762 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 3: That would be the bigger thing. 763 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been rumored for a long time. With rumors 764 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 4: like that, I tend to take a let's see if 765 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 4: it actually happens, because you can get lost in a 766 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 4: million of these things. Would it makes sense? 767 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 3: Sure? 768 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 4: But like Bucky said, can they pull it off with? 769 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,720 Speaker 4: You know, do you want to give up the equity 770 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 4: either cap equity or if it takes trade. I don't know. 771 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: I don't know either. Next question at No Hobby two, 772 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: why are they so defensive of the offensive line? 773 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you this from first back, I said 774 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:54,800 Speaker 4: answers all the time. There's no gain to not talking 775 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 4: positively about the guys in media availabilitiest media availability situation. 776 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 4: And you can say what you want, Okay, you've got 777 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 4: to replace the center, you got to replace this guard. Well, 778 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 4: then if you get to the draft and you don't 779 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 4: like what you're trying to replace and it doesn't quite 780 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:15,280 Speaker 4: work out, well, then you criticize something for no reason. 781 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:20,919 Speaker 4: So they know that there's spots, Doug said yesterday, there's 782 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 4: places where Luke Fordner's got to get better. There's places 783 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 4: where every being alfason. It's got to get better. But 784 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 4: you defend in this situation because as a coach in 785 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 4: a GM, there's no reason not to. 786 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 2: Absolutely, he doesn't want to put throw his guys under 787 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 2: the bus, regardless of what those internal discussions have been, 788 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 2: he TRIMBALKI the players, I mean the coaching staff and 789 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 2: the personnel staff, they understand where they have to go, 790 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 2: but it's not for public consumption. 791 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 3: That's why you don't want to do it. 792 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 2: Because if you pus them out there and then they're 793 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 2: unable to pull off the plan that they have in place, well, 794 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 2: now you've got to play a disgruntaled player, a player 795 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 2: who doesn't have the confidence of the coaches. 796 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 3: He knows that it just makes it for a more 797 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 3: difficult thing. 798 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 2: It is better to just put the positive spin on 799 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 2: it and to tack that situation later. 800 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,919 Speaker 4: But you can tell from the way they've talked they 801 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 4: know the line needs to get better. It's not like 802 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 4: they're sticking their head in the sand on it. But 803 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 4: there's a certain way that you talk about these things 804 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 4: when you talk about it in this time of year. 805 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, let was talk yesterday that you know, the line 806 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,879 Speaker 1: that they thought would be the starting line played one 807 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,399 Speaker 1: game together. Yeah, last year, the continuity mattered a lot, 808 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 1: or lack of it for the lack of success up there. 809 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 5: I mean, you certainly had a big impact on you. 810 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 2: Just the best offensive lines play together the snap at 811 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 2: the snap at the snap, and we just didn't see 812 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 2: that level of consistency last year. 813 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 4: One the Doug's point, especially on the left side, he didn't, 814 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 4: So that's what really destroyed that that side of the 815 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 4: line for that season. Doug talked about that all. 816 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 1: Game final question at jbsnsley. How will Peterson evaluate the 817 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 1: offensive play calling and make a decision moving ahead? What 818 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 1: does that process entail? 819 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 3: Oh? 820 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 2: I mean, I think you go through the entire offseason, 821 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 2: You go back, you've looked at all the games, You 822 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 2: continue to let Press work at it, You do all 823 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 2: the things, you get into preseason maybe preseason games, and kind. 824 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,800 Speaker 3: Of go through the process and see how it's going. 825 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 3: He'll know when. 826 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 5: He needs to make that decision whether he needs. 827 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 2: To jump in or if he can trust Press to 828 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 2: continue to go with it. I think it's an ongoing 829 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,240 Speaker 2: development that we have to monitor. 830 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know that we'll know the exact process 831 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 4: because for Doug, a lot of it maybe feel meaning, Hey, 832 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 4: I like what I like what's going on. Defensively, I 833 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 4: like how this game situation got handled last year with 834 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 4: a chance to reflect, maybe he does feel more comfortable 835 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 4: about what Charles and Bucky were talking about. Hey, I'm 836 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 4: gonna let Press do it. But then there's gonna be 837 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 4: situations where there's a means where I can come in 838 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:49,280 Speaker 4: and take over. So I think the process is just study, evaluation, conversations. 839 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: You have it, fanatics, fan questions are in that'll dole 840 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: bit for our show today, We've got Jack's Happy Hour Thursday, 841 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: four o'clock on tenchin xl AM and the Jaguars YouTube channel. 842 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: Pete Priscoe will join us at the start of the show, 843 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,320 Speaker 1: and doctor Kevin Kaplan from Jacksonville, Wor's Beef Institute, the 844 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 1: Jaguars team physician scheduled to join us as well to 845 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: talk through all the combine medical checks and things bay 846 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 1: for the medical A fun conversation. Busy day ahead. We'll 847 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 1: have interviews coming up later throughout the afternoon on Jaguars 848 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 1: dot Com and Bucky Enjoy your palace. 849 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 2: I will, I will enjoy. Hopefully I get a chance 850 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 2: to see you guys. We can hang out. I know 851 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 2: John has the credit cards, so we make sure we 852 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 2: run to Pila ring the bell. 853 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 1: We will do that. That's John Oser, Bucky Brooks. I'm 854 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 1: JP Shatrick. Thanks to our entire crew here in Indy 855 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 1: and back in Jacksonville, and thanks to you for watching 856 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 1: jags Am