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Speaker 1: Culturista's calling. We're back in the little boxes on the

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Speaker 2: No, y'all, we're not getting the visuals. We're in our

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Speaker 2: the podcast. Okay, let's just be up front. You guys

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm seeing these tiktoks of pigs with a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you think it's because the pigs are looking at

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Speaker 2: No, that is not what I'm saying. Man, you better

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Speaker 3: Problem saying that domestic dogs and pigs are stupid.

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Speaker 2: It's like, and see the pigs act like the dog.

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Speaker 2: So I don't like this from you at all. You're

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Speaker 2: I might be getting back on TikTok just to view

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Speaker 2: my luxapro journey is crazy. I know you've been updating

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Speaker 2: She bought heires for tickets for Paris, and I said.

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Speaker 1: Girl, you deserve it for her.

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Speaker 2: Brian watched the kids. I'm going to Paris to watch

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Speaker 2: Brian, watch the kids. I'm going to Paris.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he grew up to be a rich Asian man. Yes,

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00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:44,000
Speaker 3: that is the narrative American dream.

445
00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,760
Speaker 2: You contained races and class.

446
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:54,720
Speaker 3: What was her name, Doles, what venterla culture number eighty?

447
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 2: What was her name? Dozol You know, I can't wait

448
00:20:59,000 --> 00:20:59,879
Speaker 2: for that biopic.

449
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,679
Speaker 3: I can't believe they have any Angelina Jolie and her

450
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,399
Speaker 3: a mighty heart geche remember that.

451
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 1: Remember when she.

452
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:06,359
Speaker 2: Played My God?

453
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,440
Speaker 1: Remember when Angelina Joli played black Woman.

454
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,439
Speaker 2: Then she's perfect, She's qualified.

455
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,359
Speaker 3: It's so recent that, like all that was happening, like

456
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,879
Speaker 3: Angelina Joli, like Black Woman, Jared Leno played a trans woman.

457
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 1: Like it's so recent, and.

458
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,920
Speaker 2: They get rewarded for it. It's amazing, so amazing.

459
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,480
Speaker 1: We give them their flowers. Queen.

460
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,720
Speaker 2: Now, what do we have on the docket? Today, because

461
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,960
Speaker 2: there are lots of things to talk about. Do we

462
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 2: talk about them?

463
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 1: What do we have to talk about?

464
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 2: Do we have any opinion on the Lizo stuff?

465
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,679
Speaker 3: Oh oh oh oh oh oh okay, so can I

466
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,160
Speaker 3: tell you my hot take on the Lizo stuff. Something

467
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 3: I'm observing is that like people will be like, oh, yeah,

468
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 3: I know about.

469
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 2: This, and isn't that a funny thing. It's like a

470
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,239
Speaker 2: funny knee jerk thing that we all do now.

471
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,119
Speaker 3: But yeah, go, it's that thing of like when a

472
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 3: celebrity news item comes out, some we'll just go like,

473
00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 3: oh yeah, people have been saying that for a long time.

474
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,199
Speaker 3: It's like I know, like two or three people who

475
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 3: heard this about Lizzo, Like this Lizzo news broke. And

476
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 3: if you don't know what the Lizo news is, it's

477
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,360
Speaker 3: that a few of her backup dancers have come out

478
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 3: and they're suing her for like a bunch of sexual

479
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 3: harassment and like professional abuse and like retaliation, false imprisonment.

480
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,640
Speaker 3: Like there's like a whole list of things that they're

481
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,119
Speaker 3: suing her for, and it basically comes down to the

482
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,919
Speaker 3: fact that she's like a very cruel boss who like

483
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,360
Speaker 3: works them to the bone. And then I guess at

484
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 3: a club in Amsterdam, she forced a dancer or two

485
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,959
Speaker 3: to like touch a nude performer. Apparently, like you know,

486
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 3: when they've expressed desires to change the work environment, Lizo

487
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 3: retaliated against them. And like it's just this whole bunch

488
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 3: of like this fleet of information about how Lizo is

489
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:49,200
Speaker 3: like a terror. It's not good, but it's just funny

490
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,239
Speaker 3: because this stuff came out about her, and like two

491
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,400
Speaker 3: or three people I know, like I said, were like, oh, yeah,

492
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 3: people have been saying about this about her for a

493
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 3: long time. This is a reckoning. This has been coming.

494
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 3: The Lizzo thing has been a thing for a while,

495
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,199
Speaker 3: and now we're ready to say it. I'm like, what,

496
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 3: I had never heard of this, and how did your.

497
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: Well?

498
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 2: I also have I never trust it's not that. Look,

499
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 2: I'm sure I never never I haven't. We all as

500
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 2: a culture heard so many different people be like this

501
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 2: person has a reckoning coming for them. Oh absolutely, and

502
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 2: then most of the time it never happens and never

503
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 2: comes to pass, which, like I guess, is no problem.

504
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 2: But it's also like my takeaway on the meta narrative

505
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 2: of this is we can never know, literally no one knows.

506
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 3: I mean, here's the thing. It's like I watched the

507
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 3: interviews with these dancers, and I do believe them. I

508
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 3: do believe that they have had a horrible experience, you

509
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 3: know what I mean.

510
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 1: It's just this thing of like.

511
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 3: I sort of wish for them that there was more

512
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,239
Speaker 3: because people are gonna I think they're going to denounce them.

513
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 3: I mean, like it's it's weird what's happening on Twitter.

514
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 3: It's like equal parts like fuck Lizzo and fuck these

515
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 3: dancers in a way that seems very Twitter. If there's

516
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 3: something that really happened, I just wish it felt like

517
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 3: they had more of a case because I feel like

518
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 3: it's very easy for things like this to get dismissed

519
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 3: because it is just like this happened to me, and

520
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 3: I think there's not much like concrete proof. But like

521
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,479
Speaker 3: what I think is helping them is the fact that like,

522
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 3: you know, her former director of our documentary has come

523
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,719
Speaker 3: out and being like she was toxic and arrogant and

524
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 3: like was treating people this way. I think it's like

525
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,360
Speaker 3: other dancers are coming out and.

526
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 1: Being like this was also my experience.

527
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 3: So if this is the case, it's like incredibly disappointing.

528
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 3: But also I do think that there is a thing

529
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 3: where when someone comes out and makes themselves.

530
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 1: Like the face of an issue, I always feel a

531
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: little bit like you kind of have to question that always,

532
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

533
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 2: Truly, what are we the face of friendship? I make

534
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 2: this about us? No, but like totally it's like if

535
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 2: someone is really embodying in this very intentional way, some

536
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 2: sort of not virtue, I guess that word is like

537
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:13,199
Speaker 2: so fucked up.

538
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 3: Now it's just hard to back that up, you know

539
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 3: what I mean, Because like she's a human being, She's

540
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 3: got like a bunch of contradictions obviously, and I just

541
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 3: think if she did make these girls feel this way,

542
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 3: that is a problem, because she like is out here

543
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 3: saying like this is what I'm all about, this is

544
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,199
Speaker 3: what I'm all about. No part of me wants to

545
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 3: believe this about her.

546
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: But I do, And I don't know how to.

547
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 3: I don't know where you go from here outside of

548
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 3: just like I hope that you know, if there's something

549
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 3: really wrong, that it gets dealt with, because these girls

550
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 3: seem like traumatized, and I just don't want them to

551
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 3: be dismissed because it's a really brave thing and a

552
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 3: very vulnerable position to come out there, and you also

553
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 3: have to think, like what are they gaining from it?

554
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 3: They're gaining nothing from this. N percent of the time

555
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 3: whoever is putting themselves in opposition to someone on the

556
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 3: other end of a power dynamic, like they never have

557
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 3: anything to gain.

558
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 2: It's just how it is with.

559
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 3: Like accusers of like assault, It's just it's always the way,

560
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 3: like societally, it's all set up, is all so fucked.

561
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 2: Up anyway, and it's like it's all a huge bummer.

562
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 3: It's just like we know from knowing, but like you

563
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 3: never want to hear and believe that someone is an asshole.

564
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 3: Now I believe it every time, Like so many people

565
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 3: are fucking assholes. It's really weird when you see people

566
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 3: with so much to lose act like that because it's

567
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 3: gonna get out. I know it is gonna get out.

568
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,199
Speaker 3: The media is too sensitive now, people are too interested

569
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 3: in this type of thing, Like I mean, we're past

570
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 3: the point of like, yeah, being an asshole is like

571
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,439
Speaker 3: a means to an end. It's not you're it's I

572
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 3: don't understand behaving like that. And then there's like an

573
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 3: ego thing to thinking you can get away with.

574
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 2: It, right, But then like people do see that as

575
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 2: like an additional pressure. It's like an additional strain on

576
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 2: their like psyche where it's like it then feeds it.

577
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 2: Not that this is the same thing, but it's like

578
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 2: people who are always like I'm not allowed to do

579
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 2: that anymore or not allowed to say that anymore. This

580
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,719
Speaker 2: would have flown a few years ago. It's like that

581
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 2: is also like a concentric circle around this thing of

582
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 2: like you know, being an asshole, I guess, or just

583
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 2: being like harmful to other people. It's like if you

584
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 2: tell them they can't I if the media is sort

585
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 2: of like exposing people for this kind of behavior, then

586
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:45,360
Speaker 2: that then also adds this like counter force where they go, well,

587
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 2: I'm I feel even more repressed or something because I'm

588
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: not allowed to behave in this like pure id way.

589
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 3: Right exactly in creative atmospheres. And it's also like let's

590
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 3: just say this, there's nothing illegal about being an asshole.

591
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 3: Like if you are if you were running the show

592
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 3: and you're an asshole, like you can do it that way.

593
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 3: I mean it might get out. People might be like, oh,

594
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 3: like I have something to say about it. But where

595
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 3: it's iffy is like if there's like illegal stuff going on,

596
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 3: which is why I think stuff with like this lawsuit

597
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 3: and like other allegations that come out, like is she

598
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 3: an asshole or was there something illegal? It feels like

599
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 3: something illegal that was happening was maybe the retaliation on

600
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,719
Speaker 3: them losing their jobs, and certainly this issue that happened

601
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 3: in like an Amsterdam club where Lizzo apparently bullied and

602
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 3: forced one or more of the dancers to touch a

603
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 3: live performer when they didn't want to do that, which.

604
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: Is sexual harassment.

605
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 3: And people should also know, like that is still a

606
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 3: professional environment when you're with all of your colleagues. So

607
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 3: that would be like if this were an office scenario.

608
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 3: If an office full of people went out to an

609
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 3: Amsterdam club and then their boss said, hey, touch that

610
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 3: nude performer and started yelling and being like you know,

611
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 3: chanting their name and egging them on to do it,

612
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 3: and then they did it and they felt a certain

613
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 3: way about it, that would be illegal.

614
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: That would be that would be a violation a professional atmosphere.

615
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 3: And Lizzo and her backup dancers and her team that

616
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 3: is also a professional atmosphere, So that's where there's an issue,

617
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 3: but she's allowed to be an asshole, you know what

618
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 3: I'm saying. It's like, yeah, it's just where it gets

619
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 3: to the place of misconduct. Where's the separation. So I

620
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 3: think that's like that gets weird in like the whole

621
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 3: thing of like it being reported in the media, like

622
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 3: all these things we should also say. Lizo responded, and

623
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 3: she's emphatic that this is not the case. Yeah, you know,

624
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 3: it's also weird. In a creative atmosphere, it feels like

625
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 3: there's more gray area than there is, but there's really not.

626
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 3: When someone is saying to you, I don't want to

627
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 3: do this thing, I'm not comfortable, and they want to

628
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 3: be treated with respect and you don't do that, then

629
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 3: there's not really the excuse of gray area creative artistic

630
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 3: GAMUS for anymore. You're forcing someone to do something they

631
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 3: don't want to do. You're making I'm uncomfortable, and then

632
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 3: ultimately they get fired because they didn't drive with you.

633
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: That's wrong.

634
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 2: Mmmmmm hmm. God, you are giving the view you are

635
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 2: giving should have gone to you.

636
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: Are you?

637
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 2: I want to see you and Sonny go head to head.

638
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 2: I think you know, I'm sure Sonny. I think Sonny

639
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 2: would like play Devil's advocate and be like, well now

640
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 2: I feel like Lizzo's getting canceled.

641
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: I don't like this.

642
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 2: I don't like this cancel culture. And I went to

643
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:30,479
Speaker 2: law school. I read the book.

644
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 3: I read the book. I did see a psychic and

645
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 3: she said that my partner is a lawyer and she

646
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 3: sees him in a suit.

647
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 2: Now you've you've seen a psychic recently.

648
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: I saw a psychic two days ago.

649
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 2: Not the same one as before.

650
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no, no different.

651
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 2: I gotta say, with some distance. I didn't like that one.

652
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 3: No, I know, and that one's in the past, right,

653
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 3: that one's in the past. But this is actually a

654
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,719
Speaker 3: friend of mine, an old friend of mine, and I

655
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 3: got a reading done over the phone and it was

656
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 3: really interesting. And she said that she sees my partner

657
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 3: as being in a suit and they're going to be

658
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 3: a very solid person, and they are not. She says,

659
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 3: this is really important. Not in the entertainment industry.

660
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 2: Oh, I was gonna say, it's gonna be ted sarandos,

661
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 2: it's gonna be your husband.

662
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 3: Wouldn't fuck them anymore? Maybe back in the day now

663
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 3: with the strike, can't be fucking ted.

664
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 2: Maybe in the DVD era, sure maybe, Yeah, well that's exciting.

665
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 2: How do you feel about that a dinas suit not

666
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 2: in the entertainment industry.

667
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 3: I'm so psyched that this person said that they're not

668
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 3: in the entertainment industry because now it's like liability. Well

669
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 3: now it's like you can rule everyone out, which I love, Oh.

670
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 2: My god, everyone.

671
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 3: I don't think a relationship with someone in the entertainment

672
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 3: industry is for me or for you for that matter.

673
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 2: I go back and forth and forth and back, and

674
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 2: I don't know, do you feel like they can't be

675
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 2: anywhere near it? Like you wouldn't date like a fucking

676
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 2: grip or something, you know what I mean?

677
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 3: You know what I guess, Like when I say in

678
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 3: the entertainment industry, I guess I mean like an entertainer

679
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 3: or someone that's like really in it, like someone that's like,

680
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 3: I guess, too similar to me and what I do.

681
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 3: I'm excited about that being off the table, just because honestly,

682
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 3: like I guess, the stupid pie in the sky thing

683
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 3: of being like I just want to someone who gets it,

684
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like, but that is ultimately it, right,

685
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 3: Like you want to say, someone who gets it and

686
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 3: is like a respector and a fan and supporter of

687
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 3: what you do, but not someone that also.

688
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: Does it totally.

689
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 2: And you just want some because because what I'm all

690
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 2: about right now is like I need someone to like

691
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 2: broaden my life, and I feel like the best way

692
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 2: to that is on some professional occupational levels for them

693
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 2: to like give me something different, bringing in new stream

694
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 2: of reality. If that makes sense, you know.

695
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 3: So ground, you know what I mean, Like, that's another

696
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 3: whole part of it. I should also say, like two

697
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 3: out of my three x's have been in the entertainment industry,

698
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 3: and that was never the.

699
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: Problem, you know what I mean.

700
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 3: Like then, yeah, it's not like it's like a hard no,

701
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 3: it's just helpful that a psychic said it, and we

702
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 3: trust this one, I think, so yeah, okay, I mean okay.

703
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: Also, what else did she say? She said, like, well,

704
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, she also said, she's like, you

705
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: have to talk about the things that you go through.

706
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: You have to.

707
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 2: You have to as if you don't. Well, I feel

708
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 2: like you do a great job and I really do

709
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 2: compliment you. I feel like you are one of the

710
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 2: most emotionally cogent people I know.

711
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 3: I try to do a respectful job now of sharing

712
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 3: what I'm going through with respect to people in my life.

713
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 3: I try to do a respectful job while so honoring

714
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,479
Speaker 3: myself and what I'm going through whatever, but also not

715
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 3: being who I was like back.

716
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: In the day, like being like today, Henry did this.

717
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 2: We were young.

718
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: We were so young. Years ago.

719
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,240
Speaker 2: We were young, and that's a rule of culture number

720
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 2: seventy two years ago. When we were young.

721
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: They made mistakes.

722
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 2: Well, you sharing details about your life with Henry was

723
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 2: never an issue either, was it.

724
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: It was with him. It was with him.

725
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 3: He was like, hey, did you say this thing on

726
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 3: the podcast because people are asked me about it? And

727
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, yeah, I guess I did, And

728
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's just like it's that's a weird thing.

729
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 3: But also it's like I feel like anybody that like

730
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 3: knows who we are, knows that we get on the

731
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 3: podcast episodes like this where we talk to each other

732
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 3: about what's going on. So like, if that's not for you, like,

733
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 3: don't try to stick a finger in my buttole then

734
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 3: I know.

735
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 2: You only stick it in there if that's for you.

736
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 2: If you're okay with being talked about.

737
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 3: If you hear this podcast and you say, wow, that's

738
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 3: really crazy they went into this that the other thing.

739
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 3: And then you see us at tai Te, don't come

740
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 3: over to us and try to stick your finger in

741
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 3: my in our buttthle.

742
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

743
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Only do it if if

744
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 2: you don't know, Like.

745
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 3: Imagine me a baggot coming up to you at my

746
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 3: fucking knockdown center. Ready, I'm styling up to you like

747
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 3: dance tie I du Alipa is playing. I'm like, hey,

748
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 3: suddenly you feel my hands slide down your butt and

749
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 3: I start to finger your butthole, and I go, I

750
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 3: really have been identifying with your lexapro journey.

751
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 2: That's so nice.

752
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: What are you doing fingering?

753
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 3: Yeah?

754
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: Ow, you're.

755
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 3: Remember when we went to Miami. Yes, that was a fingerfest.

756
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 3: Remember when we went to that one night club in Miami.

757
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: Oh my god?

758
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, who was getting fingered?

759
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 3: Oh shit, we were in Miami. We weren to that

760
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 3: one like super duper club.

761
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 2: Were you getting fingered?

762
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,439
Speaker 1: So I went out to the middle.

763
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 3: Sometimes I'll go out into the middle of the dance floor,

764
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 3: like just by myself and just like float around and

765
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 3: like sometimes you'll start dancing with a guy and like

766
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,760
Speaker 3: I was just getting fingered.

767
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I had no idea. Oh yeah, this

768
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 2: is one of those moments where and I think it's

769
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 2: just important to acknowledge where I feel like you and

770
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 2: I are in different realities in a space like that.

771
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: Let's just say that. I mean, you might be right.

772
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,439
Speaker 3: But also here's what I'll say if you sore out

773
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 3: there and you go up to someone and you go hey,

774
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 3: and you put your hands around their neck like this,

775
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 3: and explain to them how I'm dancing right now.

776
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt is basically so seductively putting his arms around

777
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 2: your neck.

778
00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: And I'm also wiggling my butt and.

779
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 2: He's wiggling his butt. He's like really like opening up.

780
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 3: You could get a finger slit in there if someone

781
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 3: digit would slip. I don't think anyone looks at me

782
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 3: and goes, I'm a finger him.

783
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna finger him.

784
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 3: I have to tell you that's definitely wrong. I think

785
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 3: people definitely want to finger you.

786
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 2: Speaking of a terring experience I had in Amsterdam, went

787
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 2: to the bathhouse. I was like this is not the

788
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 2: place for me, was getting no play. I was like, okay, whatever,

789
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 2: and then I left.

790
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: I hate it.

791
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 2: It's truly a thing where like even like Julio talks

792
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 2: about going to like Planet Pride, and he's like when

793
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 2: no one was florting with me. So I walked across

794
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 2: the street direct and I had a great time. I

795
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,240
Speaker 2: was like, if no one's floating with Julio in a space,

796
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 2: then like there's no hope.

797
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,760
Speaker 1: That's because they're all on gene. Can't see anything.

798
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 3: By the way, like we have problems with the G thing,

799
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 3: and this is good, this is gonna like light, this

800
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 3: is good up, But like you guys are taking it

801
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 3: to far. I mean, it's crazy you go to spaces

802
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 3: now everyone's a fucking soulless personality less zombie because the

803
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 3: G thing has gone too fucking far.

804
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: It's just weird when you're doing it all the time.

805
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 2: I think it's a scourge on our community. And I

806
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 2: know we sound like fucking squares squares squares.

807
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: So I think it's an issue.

808
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 2: I think it's I was gonna say, I know it

809
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 2: seems like we're like, oh, drugs, but literally not all

810
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 2: drugs are created equal No, this is literally a drug

811
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 2: that is lethal if it is like not so carefully used.

812
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 2: What's g Hans's ass? What's GHB? It is more commonly

813
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 2: known as the date rape drug gamma hydroxy buttric acid.

814
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 3: You put it in alcohol, you know, you fucking know

815
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 3: you put it in it? You oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

816
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 3: yeah yeah. So basically, like it's like an alternative to

817
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,959
Speaker 3: drinking alcohol that tons and tons and tons and tons

818
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 3: of gay men do now. And it's gotten to the

819
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 3: point where like I'll be at a party and it'll

820
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 3: be most gays are just doing g and I'm like,

821
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 3: then you sort of see them like fade out, and

822
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, why are we a creative, dynamic, like gorgeous

823
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 3: community that can connect with each other only to not

824
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 3: do that?

825
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 2: My thing is, I feel like at this point, almost

826
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 2: everybody in this gay community of ours the world over,

827
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 2: has been affected by a g moment in that I

828
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 2: literally had to help a stranger like get home, put

829
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 2: them in a fucking uber a person I don't know

830
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 2: from fucking adam, Yeah, to make sure they didn't die.

831
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is ruining my You're ruining my night.

832
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: No, it's getting weird. It's almost like weird to even

833
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: bring up because it's so commonplace, and it's just to

834
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: the point where.

835
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 2: I'm just find taking this stance, fine, this stance.

836
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 3: Like mid thirties, let's like zoom out and look at

837
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 3: our life for a second, Like, let's be real with

838
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 3: each other here. This is not why we're doing this.

839
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 3: And I honestly, I'm not saying this like fuck you.

840
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 3: I'm trying to see actionionately, I'm just saying it's really

841
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 3: getting weird.

842
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how I feel. Is I am not like

843
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 2: telling people how to live their lives. I'm just going

844
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 2: there is a collective thing happening here that is it

845
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 2: strange to me to be noticed anyway? What's coming on

846
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:27,919
Speaker 2: with uncoupling?

847
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: What's going on with uncoupling?

848
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 2: Divorce? Divorces in the air?

849
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: Who's divorced?

850
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 3: Now? Oh wait, everybody, now, okay, let's see Trudeau. Oh

851
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 3: someone's everybody hold on?

852
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, goo goo goo.

853
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 3: Someone was like, kim k is gonna go for Trudeau.

854
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 3: That's so funny. I can see Tylor Swift going for Trudeau.

855
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 3: I can see Kim Ka, I can see Kylie Jenner,

856
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 3: I can.

857
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 2: See oh my god, Well look here's what's going on.

858
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 2: We've got fucking Trudeau, Deblasio and his wife and Lane

859
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 2: Billy Porter. So if you ever got and Joe Manginiello, Oh.

860
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 3: Right, I knew about that, Rosilia Rita Noles, oh Tina.

861
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 2: The list goes on like something is happening this sum

862
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 2: this is breakup here.

863
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 3: I'm telling you twenty twenty three. It's something going on.

864
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 3: It's something, something is in.

865
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 2: How do you feeling trend? How do you feel being

866
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 2: on trend with breakup?

867
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: I feel being on trend not good. I mean like

868
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 1: it's it's horrible. Going through a breakup is horrible.

869
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 2: It's awful. There's no way to make it chic or

870
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 2: like ooh, it's it's in right now, Like it doesn't

871
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 2: make it any no.

872
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 3: And also it's like it's equally it not maybe not

873
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 3: equally painful, but it's so painful to be the person

874
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 3: doing it as well as the person going through it,

875
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 3: and it honestly chases you away from even getting into

876
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 3: relationships in the first place, which is like something I'm

877
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 3: sort of dealing with now is it's like I'm definitely

878
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 3: dating a good bit, but I am so hesitant to

879
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 3: get into something with someone that can hurt me in

880
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 3: the ways in which I have been hurt had to

881
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 3: hurt other people. Like it's almost like when you go

882
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 3: on a date with someone and it's going good, you

883
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 3: look them in the eyes and you're like.

884
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 1: So are we going to ruin each other's lives or what?

885
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 2: Oh?

886
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. It's just like, are we

887
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: going to get into it or what? Like?

888
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 3: Are you going to be the person that I.

889
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: Have to cry with?

890
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 2: What's the Brockovic line?

891
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 1: Are you going to be? You're going to be another

892
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: thing that I have to survive. Oh what, I'm not

893
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: up to it?

894
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,439
Speaker 2: And I'm not I'm actually not.

895
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: How said this to me the other day.

896
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 3: He was like, I feel like you need to take

897
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 3: a break because you don't know what you want. And

898
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 3: I was like, it's not even that I don't know

899
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 3: what I want.

900
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: He said, I'm not up to the emotions that go

901
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: with I don't know. It's so difficult.

902
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I completely understand, and it makes me sad because

903
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 2: I feel like you deserve everything you want.

904
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 3: I mean likewise, but the thing is like it is

905
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 3: fucking hard to get there, and it's work, and then

906
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 3: you start to feel like I don't want I don't

907
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 3: want to be like, you know, a chump for not

908
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 3: wanting to go through it again. But it's just difficult,

909
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,240
Speaker 3: I think, especially like when you do have a lot

910
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 3: to give and I feel like another thing. The psychic

911
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 3: said to me, She was like, well, you have the

912
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 3: you have the ability to love unconditionally. Congratulations. And I

913
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 3: was just like and I was like, yeah, I think

914
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 3: I know that's true, which is why when it feels

915
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 3: conditional for someone else or you realize when things change

916
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 3: it's just like too painful.

917
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think what's happening too for you

918
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 2: is that in order to like avoid pain or like

919
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 2: heavy investment or some such like, you are then selecting.

920
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 2: There's a selection process there where it's like then you

921
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 2: just end up going on like a bunch of I'm

922
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 2: not saying this is what's happening, but then it's like

923
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 2: it creates a thing where it's like you would only

924
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 2: go on like mid dates anywhere where like the guy

925
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 2: doesn't challenge you or doesn't stimulate or spark something.

926
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,720
Speaker 1: Not challenging, it's certainly not happening.

927
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 3: Like I'm definitely a lot pickier and choosier with if

928
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 3: I I mean, we've said this, like if I go

929
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 3: out with someone, like I really want to be there,

930
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:25,959
Speaker 3: like and I feel like you're the same way.

931
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of. I feel like I'll take what I

932
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 2: can get.

933
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 1: At this point. No, that's so, that's that's wrong.

934
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 2: It's okay, it's fine, it's fine. Can I just say

935
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 2: I think the Lexipro is doing good things? And I

936
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 2: do feel like I am, like Miles Leagues, in a

937
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 2: better place than I was.

938
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 1: You really seem so much better.

939
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 2: You can tell girl.

940
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Oh my god, that's good.

941
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 3: I also think you're now even though it's like weird

942
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 3: because everything is shut down, It's like you are now

943
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 3: living like a normal life, you know what I mean.

944
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 3: Like your life was abnormal, your life like is abnormal.

945
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 2: I know. I picked up dry cleaning today. It's at

946
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 2: that Charlie Barday tweet. It's like, right, oh, Like if

947
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 2: I see someone with dry cleaning, I go, that's a

948
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 2: fucking errand I'm like, I'm running errands.

949
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: You know what.

950
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 3: Like I had dinner with Sweety last night. By the way,

951
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 3: we need to do sometime over the next month or two.

952
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:18,240
Speaker 2: This's happening.

953
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 3: It will be a late summer of Compo. I was

954
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 3: talking to her last night and she was like, you know,

955
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 3: it's so interesting, like especially with the strike and everything

956
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 3: with no one working, like you can sort of focus

957
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 3: on like what is like a routine, because she was

958
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,240
Speaker 3: saying like it's very difficult for her to get anything

959
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 3: done without a routine. So she was saying, like, you know,

960
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 3: I wake up in the morning, like I make my coffee,

961
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 3: I do my thing, like I have like a set

962
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 3: schedule of things I do. And then I said to

963
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 3: her when she was saying at the end of all

964
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,919
Speaker 3: this like routine stuff, I was like, you know, that's

965
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 3: like an adult, normal life, and she's like, yeah, it is.

966
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 3: And I don't have to feel guilty that I'm not

967
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 3: like doing other things. It's just like I don't know,

968
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 3: like like sometimes I the best days I have are

969
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 3: when I feel like I accomplished small tasks, like I

970
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 3: did launch this.

971
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 1: I like went and picked up.

972
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 3: Something that I've been meaning to get, Like there's been

973
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 3: like weeks and weeks and weeks where I've needed to

974
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 3: go get laundry detergent, and I went out and got it.

975
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 3: And I was like, in the words of Ken Ryan, Gosling.

976
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 3: I said, sublime, Oh my god, just like little things

977
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 3: that now you have the time to do, which would

978
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 3: have been so overwhelming for you, which is wrong.

979
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 2: I mean, it is literally sublime in the sense that

980
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 2: it's like beyond good, beyond great, it's something deeper than good.

981
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 2: It's like, wow, this feels right.

982
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just.

983
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 3: Do like tiny little human things for yourself. I know, literally,

984
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 3: but you seem so much better because that's the.

985
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: Case, right.

986
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 2: I'm just worried that like the luxepro is not the

987
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 2: right doll. I might be more of a pro zac

988
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 2: rizol off situation. But I don't have I literally don't

989
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 2: have the time to be like fucking knocked off of

990
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 2: my feet for two weeks per drug, you know what

991
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 2: I mean?

992
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 3: Maybe, but can I say you do have the time,

993
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 3: You do have the time, and yet I feel like

994
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 3: this is what happens.

995
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 2: I've been like waking up zombifide and then I go

996
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 2: and then I think it's okay because literally, Katie Gavin

997
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 2: Muna we were talking and they were asking me like, well,

998
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 2: is it a good kind of tired or is it

999
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 2: like is it a good kind of like down or

1000
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 2: is it a bad kind of down. I'm like, oh,

1001
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 2: that's such an interesting nuanced question, and I was like,

1002
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 2: I can't tell yet, but I think what happens is

1003
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 2: I wake up zombifide and I go, huh, that's interesting,

1004
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 2: and then I immediately start to feel bad about feeling tired,

1005
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 2: as if I'm not doing enough with my day, and

1006
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 2: yet I am kind of doing stuff with my days.

1007
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 2: I am like going to the gym, I'm like picking

1008
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 2: up dry cleaning, I'm like doing shit. And this is

1009
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 2: just the adjustment I think that, Like, for me, what

1010
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 2: I've experienced is well, one thing is my anxiety is

1011
00:47:59,560 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 2: like kind of.

1012
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 1: Gone, which has really been a big change.

1013
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 3: Like for example, like last week, the second day I

1014
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 3: went to Eras, I was going to meet up with

1015
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 3: a bunch of like people, many of whom I didn't

1016
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 3: really know, to pregame before the concert. And that is

1017
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 3: the kind of thing that would have driven me up

1018
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 3: the wall with anxiety, especially because low key there were

1019
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 3: going to be like a lot of hot gays there

1020
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 3: and so or like what I perceived to be like

1021
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 3: you know, like certain, and so I was getting like

1022
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 3: a little anxious I was, And that's the kind of

1023
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 3: thing like that I even started therapy to deal with

1024
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 3: is just like gatherings of large strangers of gay men.

1025
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 3: They're strangers, like just like that makes me nervous. And

1026
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 3: so I walked into this thing and I was like,

1027
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 3: oh my god, I didn't even think about the fact

1028
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 3: that I would ordinarily be really anxious about this, Like

1029
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 3: that was eliminated. So maybe what you're experiencing is like

1030
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 3: you used to have a comfort with feeling emotions in

1031
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 3: more extreme and because you're not feeling those emotions and

1032
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 3: extremes are like because you're not like moved to feel

1033
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 3: by every little thing, you're thinking, like there's something that's

1034
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 3: like keeping me down?

1035
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: Is that maybe it?

1036
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 2: Probably I think maybe with serotonin re entering my system,

1037
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 2: with the noise in my head sort of dissipating, that

1038
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 2: has been the thing that is like kept me up

1039
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 2: and awake and alert at all times. Like that, yeah,

1040
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,479
Speaker 2: that anxiety, and now that that is going away, there's

1041
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 2: no buttressing for my energy, so it fucking crashes and

1042
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 2: I'm going, yeah, whoa was that the engine I was

1043
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 2: running on this whole time? Because literally working at my

1044
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 2: day job, it is like every day of the week,

1045
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 2: your emotions are being driven one way or the other.

1046
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,439
Speaker 2: It's like a fucking switchboard. It's like either you feel

1047
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 2: great on Wednesday or you feel terrible on Wednesday. Either

1048
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 2: you feel amazing on Saturday or you feel it's like

1049
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 2: and every week it's that. And then on top of that,

1050
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 2: it was the travel and whatever.

1051
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and also probably something chemical and also not for nothing.

1052
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 3: But maybe this will be a good thing because it'll

1053
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,479
Speaker 3: neutralize those feelings. I'm interested to see how you feel

1054
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 3: when you go back on this. Me too, if you

1055
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 3: stick with it, if it ever comes back.

1056
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 2: Truly, who knows.

1057
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 3: Let's get into I don't think so, honey, Okay, might

1058
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 3: have to be a messy I kind of want to

1059
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,240
Speaker 3: get messy too. It's kind of been a messy episode,

1060
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 3: so why the fuck out? Whatever else do it?

1061
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 2: This has been a beautifully messy episode, hasn't it?

1062
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: Okay?

1063
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 2: This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so, honey. As

1064
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 2: time starts now.

1065
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. Grinder, I deleted it. You

1066
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: can too.

1067
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 3: There's a lot of other, you know, hookup apps and

1068
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 3: dating apps you can use.

1069
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: I just think the app is too toxic, and I'm

1070
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 1: gonna be real. You can look it up.

1071
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 3: They just fired in retaliation a whole bunch of their

1072
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 3: employees just because they wanted to unionize, and that was

1073
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 3: completely unfair And it's bullshit. And I have people that

1074
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 3: I love and care about that were.

1075
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: Affected by it. Toxic app, toxic company.

1076
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just whenever you hear the word, it

1077
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 3: kind of sends a chill up your spine. So why

1078
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 3: are we doing it? Here's my message to the gay community.

1079
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 3: You don't have to do fucking anything you don't want

1080
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 3: to do. So if you don't want to be on

1081
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:19,959
Speaker 3: this second, fucking delete it because I did and I'm

1082
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,240
Speaker 3: doing just fine. And you go on Instagram it's basically

1083
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 3: a hookup app. You go on all these other ones.

1084
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 3: Do you want to sniff it up?

1085
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 2: Girl?

1086
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 1: Do that thing?

1087
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, because everyone's doing it, you don't have

1088
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 3: to do it, grinder included. I don't think so, honey.

1089
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:38,439
Speaker 2: That's one minute beautiful fucking union busting. I mean, it's like.

1090
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: That bullshit, evil, evil.

1091
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 2: Legally, very very murky. To fucking retaliate against your employees

1092
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 2: for wanting to unionize, like not the right thing to do.

1093
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 2: I think they fucked up and by like letting go

1094
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 2: of all other people disgusting and a terrible app terrible

1095
00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 2: fucking pay structure that those tears are fucking stupid, extra unlimited.

1096
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 2: It don't make no sense. I have nothing good to say.

1097
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 3: It's gotten to the point where it's like, I don't know,

1098
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 3: it's kind of like Twitter at this point, you know,

1099
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 3: where it's been, like, let's move on. It makes us

1100
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 3: feel bad. It makes us feel bad, and like now

1101
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 3: we have like black and white proof that like it's

1102
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 3: just as shitty on the inside.

1103
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 1: And that's my I don't think so, honey.

1104
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 2: Everybody listening who uses it, think about the last great

1105
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 2: experience you had.

1106
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 3: I might have been great seven, Yeah, yeah, I might

1107
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 3: have been twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven, And maybe

1108
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 3: it was good because it was the first like good

1109
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 3: random sex I had had, but that wasn't because of the.

1110
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 2: Ap No no, no, no, okay.

1111
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: Hate that shit anyway. Okay, this is Bowen Yang's I

1112
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey, And this time starts.

1113
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 2: Now, I don't think so, honey. The Real House Days

1114
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 2: of New York City, Season fourteen. I'm sticking with you

1115
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 2: to the end. I am really this episode. I like listen.

1116
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 2: I didn't finish it, but I hear is bring the

1117
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 2: new villain now or something? I can't keep up anymore.

1118
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 2: And it's already We're only four episodes in and I'm

1119
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 2: already like falling off. Listen what I am gonna stick

1120
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 2: with it? But I am. I think we need to

1121
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 2: stop pretending like it's like an amazing new reset. I

1122
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 2: think I'm still going back and watching the old episodes

1123
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 2: and going and look, I would say this openly to

1124
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 2: you know, people's faces, important people's faces. I would say,

1125
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 2: this is if not giving the give you know what

1126
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm missing the energy the spark this had.

1127
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 2: Right now, this feels a little textureless. Jenna does not

1128
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 2: have what it takes to hold the center and to

1129
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 2: be in the center of the tableau. And so I

1130
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 2: just think we need to really give it a new

1131
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 2: shot of energy.

1132
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 1: And that's woman.

1133
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 3: I could not disagree more that I thought this was

1134
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:57,280
Speaker 3: the best episode of the season. I like the season,

1135
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 3: all the women, and it's early bo I mean, and

1136
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 3: like with Housewives, it's like you have to look at

1137
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 3: as a collective season, and I think right now we're

1138
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 3: getting to know all of them and really getting to

1139
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 3: see like how they tick and everything. Like I mean,

1140
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 3: I almost feel like when a season, when a new

1141
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,240
Speaker 3: franchise starts too hot, like salt Lake, it's like almost

1142
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 3: like it's setting it up to go down.

1143
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:19,879
Speaker 2: Like I think we get two amazing seasons of salt

1144
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,439
Speaker 2: Lake and then one dud season of for season three.

1145
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 2: But then I think I understand that there is like

1146
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 2: a cadence in a rhythm and like ebbs and flows.

1147
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 2: I just think I am not latching on the way

1148
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,280
Speaker 2: that I would have hoped to. And I was really

1149
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 2: open to really getting into this season and I will

1150
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 2: and I'm sure I'm just saying right now, as of

1151
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 2: episode four, I'm like, who cares.

1152
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not saying you will eat your hat.

1153
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 3: I'm saying I hope you eat your hat because I

1154
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 3: hope so you really like it. I mean, like I

1155
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 3: think britn is a star who was also excellent un

1156
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,959
Speaker 3: watch What Happens Live with Marlowe. I mean, you should

1157
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 3: definitely watch to the end. I think if there's some

1158
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 3: really interesting stuff there, like interesting contradictions on her personality

1159
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 3: that come out. I love Jenna. I think that she

1160
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 3: is doing an amazing job. I really enjoy watching her.

1161
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:05,919
Speaker 3: I'm actually kind of obsessed with her. I fell down

1162
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 3: a YouTube wormhole of her the other day.

1163
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 2: I actually was incredible. I'm obsessed. She's popping up on

1164
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 2: my algorithm too on YouTube. I'm not saying she's not

1165
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,439
Speaker 2: a star. I'm saying she any other season, any other city,

1166
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 2: she would be like the fun, quirky, not side housewife,

1167
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 2: but she would not be like carrying it. And I

1168
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 2: think they're relying her to carry this even though she

1169
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 2: seems a little uncomfortable doing that. That's what I'm saying.

1170
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,439
Speaker 3: I think that she's starting to come into her own

1171
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 3: in that regard, and I think we're it has to marinate.

1172
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 3: But I guess what I'm saying is like I'm liking

1173
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 3: the energy of what I'm seeing. I also did order

1174
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 3: uber hat. I will stress it has not come yet,

1175
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 3: but I'm very excited for my uber hot Taste thing.

1176
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 3: I didn't know it's on Unperceived Things until oh yeah,

1177
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 3: And that's why this episode was so amazing.

1178
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 1: We found out that uber hat was on Oprah Severed Things.

1179
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 3: I respect your opinion, I respectfully disagree. I think this

1180
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 3: is gonna be something we watch moving forward.

1181
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:09,720
Speaker 1: Space.

1182
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 3: This is atension between us. This episode was you know,

1183
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 3: we were sort of went there.

1184
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 2: We went there.

1185
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 3: Listen plann up for our Diamond subscription if you know

1186
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 3: what's good for you for the extra bonus con and

1187
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 3: it's good for you baby. And just as a little

1188
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 3: tip of the hat to an episode that just came out,

1189
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 3: we end every episode with a song.

1190
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 1: When it comes to the club, there's a gong.

1191
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 2: I listened to it the other day and they play

1192
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 2: a gong during that part.

1193
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Fergie sort of is Isn't Ferggy like International?

1194
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 3: Isn't Forggy like every race? Sure?

1195
00:56:55,400 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 1: Bye,