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Speaker 1: we do this, whatever occadences. My producers Lauren and Derek

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Speaker 2: It was a life changing announcement.

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Speaker 1: And I heard from a lot of friends who listened

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I switched the gap.

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Speaker 1: And I know that sounds preposterous to be something, to

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Speaker 3: You it. We did a call out after that because

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Speaker 1: I was like, I cannot be the only one.

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Speaker 4: It's really exciting to come into our Gmail and see

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Speaker 3: Oh my God, tell me every day.

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Speaker 5: So first we have Louise. She's from across the pond.

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Speaker 4: She says, international listeners, national listeners, very worldwide.

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Speaker 4: So Louise says, I went through something very similar to you,

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Speaker 5: I call decaf unletted.

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Speaker 3: We're changing the world.

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Speaker 4: You guys onon talking coffee at a time.

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Speaker 2: That's right, Well, do you have some more use for us?

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Speaker 3: I've seen it. News, I have some news.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we're gonna start with you've got a whole stack

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, how do we do this without doing spoilers?

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Speaker 3: Because this is very much a spoiler.

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Speaker 5: You can do it. It's okay, it's okay.

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Speaker 1: It's about coffee, and it's I think it's a spill.

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Speaker 1: Okay, listeners, there's some spoilers happening here.

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Speaker 3: It's interrupted.

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Speaker 5: No, like pineapple is the most strong of the fruits.

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Speaker 5: Oh that's true. I did eat that too.

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Speaker 2: So all right, coffee met Well, what do you got?

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Speaker 3: What grown up is it? Influenced to buy a product

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Speaker 3: Onto more news, talking coffee.

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Speaker 1: Apparently there's a simple trick to make your coffee taste

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Speaker 3: And this really only impacts if you like, do pour

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's what I do.

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Speaker 1: Okay, because this talking coffee is going to center a

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Speaker 3: All these colleges now are studying coffee.

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Speaker 1: It is by carefully manipulating the height and flow of

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Speaker 3: Got that.

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Speaker 5: What does that mean?

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Speaker 1: Okay, where the jet doesn't break up when it impacts

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Speaker 3: No, you want the goose.

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Speaker 1: Very exciting, you know, with the very long spout so

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Wait, so first of all, I have a question,

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Speaker 2: So does the distance will not have answers? Is the

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Speaker 2: Is it water? I think the water needs to be tall.

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Speaker 3: Okay, here's the science of a perfect pore.

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Speaker 1: Steady began with an unusual challenge, how to look inside

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Speaker 3: That's a little dramatic, you guys. Relax.

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Speaker 1: So researchers swapped out the opaque coffee grounds for transparent

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, my god, kick, here are the common

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Speaker 3: cold but this is this is happening. The visuals revealed

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Speaker 1: When hot water was poured from a sufficient height and

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Speaker 1: in what researchers dubbed an avalanche effect. More mixing means

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Speaker 5: Okay, Derek, you should totally do a taste test.

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Speaker 2: I should well so. I the way I do poor

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Speaker 1: All of those things are important. Yeah, those are important

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Speaker 3: But I don't know.

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Speaker 1: This is very science y, Yeah, very sciency. Okay, would

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Speaker 1: you guys go to an automated coffee drive through?

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Speaker 5: Maybe no humans? If I was, if it was the

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Speaker 2: Not your first choice, yeah, aerimated, this is like a

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Speaker 3: People working here, It's a drive through with no people. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I mean, listen, you're going to Japan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a place where you can go into

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Speaker 1: people list seven elevens.

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Speaker 2: That was interesting. No, I heard of it, and I

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Speaker 1: they're they're actual stores that are like Honor Code. I

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Speaker 1: Okay, this isn't Milwaukee and it's an automated drive through

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Speaker 4: Although I have to say, I'm working on a true

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Speaker 5: Back, they'll work on it harder.

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Speaker 2: I should have asked it to make you a cup

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. This is a little creepy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, all the tracking is creepy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I don't need this random, humanless thing to know.

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Speaker 5: Where I am. I don't know. More interaction is better

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Speaker 5: than yeah, And you know, part.

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Speaker 1: Going to get a cup of coffee, Yeah, is interacting

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Speaker 4: Feels very sad and like, I know, we have historically

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Speaker 5: But like, now that's just a hard, nice cut exactly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't think I'm into it.

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Speaker 1: No, Okay, speaking of baristas, ten coffee habits that annoy

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Speaker 3: And this is so that you.

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Speaker 3: These are like the mistakes. Okay, this is this is.

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Speaker 1: Good for you, Derek, because you're very involved in making

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you have a hand grinder, we learned. Yes, it

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Speaker 2: I'm saving up for that one.

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Speaker 1: The first the first complaint is winging your coffee measurements.

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Speaker 3: That appears to be very important.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's not good for me because I like wing baking,

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Speaker 1: which is like ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm in the clear so far because I

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Speaker 1: Okay, So, well, so you're you're ahead of the game there, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: ignoring the importance of grind quality, you're there too, Okay.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, already you could be a Barisa.

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Speaker 2: Well wait, the grind quality, meaning like cheap.

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Speaker 1: Blade grinders aren't the answer here. Instead, invest in a

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Speaker 2: You have just a ragging here.

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Speaker 3: You are so on it.

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Speaker 1: That's designed to deliver a more uniform grind size throughout

455
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Speaker 1: the batch for better tasting cup.

456
00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,720
Speaker 2: When you come to coffee later in life, you just

457
00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,200
Speaker 2: only want that. You want to jump in with the best,

458
00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,000
Speaker 2: and that's what I did. So I'm like going on

459
00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,760
Speaker 2: YouTube videos like, that's funny.

460
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,280
Speaker 5: You didn't experience all this shitty coffee.

461
00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,160
Speaker 3: Yes, shitty cups of coffee, so many nothing cups.

462
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,440
Speaker 5: I mean, I guess you've you've you know, you've had some. Yeah,

463
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,440
Speaker 5: it's not great coffee.

464
00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:29,000
Speaker 3: But you're not making them.

465
00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:30,479
Speaker 2: I'm not making It's amazing.

466
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Speaker 1: You'll have a shitty cup of coffee, but it won't

467
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Speaker 1: be your fault. Yes, Okay, here's another one storing your

468
00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,080
Speaker 1: coffee in the bag it comes in.

469
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Speaker 2: I also, can I put my coffee in a in

470
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Speaker 2: a can that has no light that comes in and

471
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Speaker 2: also it has a little like air it like I like,

472
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,160
Speaker 2: and like there's no errands.

473
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Speaker 3: You're a science genius.

474
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:52,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's good.

475
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,199
Speaker 1: Apparently storing coffee beans in their original bag after opening

476
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Speaker 1: can lead to stale, flavorless coffee. Once exposed to oxygen,

477
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,880
Speaker 1: the clock starts ticking and beans begin to lose their freshness.

478
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 1: So instead, well worth investing in an air tight, vacuum

479
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:06,760
Speaker 1: sealed coffee canister.

480
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:09,680
Speaker 3: And there are electric versions.

481
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Speaker 2: What what mine is very simple. It's just a simple

482
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,240
Speaker 2: canister with a little like pump. I don't think. I

483
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 2: don't know that it really gets like all of the

484
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,439
Speaker 2: air out. Yeah, I'm sure it gets some of the

485
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Speaker 2: air because you essentially press it down, ye, like.

486
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Speaker 3: Better than the bag.

487
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:22,120
Speaker 6: Yeah.

488
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Speaker 3: What I did?

489
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Speaker 4: I have purchased like one of these online, one of

490
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,199
Speaker 4: those things where you cannot tell the size of it

491
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 4: or I did not pay much enough and it arrived

492
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,439
Speaker 4: and it was like this. It was it was like

493
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Speaker 4: the size of a basketball, the width of it.

494
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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

495
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, whatever it was exactly.

496
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Speaker 4: So I'm not using it for coffee because I like

497
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 4: my bags. Three bags will fit here, So I actually

498
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 4: use it for brown sugar, okay, and that really helps

499
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Speaker 4: because I squeeze all the air out and is forsh

500
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Speaker 4: But then I got a smaller one, but we've since

501
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,360
Speaker 4: lost a little extra top that seezes that all the air.

502
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Speaker 5: So it's just looking like a nice little white canister.

503
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 3: My brown sugar canister is elite.

504
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 1: Okay, ready, it has a top, but in the top

505
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Speaker 1: there's another top, and inside that little compartment is a

506
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Speaker 1: terra cottack.

507
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Speaker 5: What's her name? This the Italian American Food Network.

508
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 3: Star Lydia Bastianic.

509
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 5: She's like Giada, Giada she had.

510
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Speaker 3: I was like, what is that? That is what it?

511
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 1: Okay, So it comes with a little I think I

512
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Speaker 1: got it from like container store.

513
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, a.

514
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 1: Little terracotta disc. You soak the terracotta disc in like

515
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,879
Speaker 1: hot water, boiling water for like fifteen minutes, and then

516
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 1: you put it in this thing for like six months sugar.

517
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it doesn't get the sugar.

518
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 1: Wet because the there's like a holder for the terracotta

519
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,640
Speaker 1: disc inside the lid that like.

520
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Speaker 3: It won't drip.

521
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna get into this and do you also

522
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,119
Speaker 4: decant your sugar?

523
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,159
Speaker 1: So you just pour in this can of star and

524
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 1: then the terra cotta you do like every six months.

525
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 3: And my brown sugar has never been.

526
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 5: Something like wow, talking brown sugar.

527
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 3: Guys talk and brown sugar.

528
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 2: And not have a much less fancy way of doing

529
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 2: a brown sugar compared to my coffee routine, which is

530
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 2: I just put like pieces of bread in my brown sugar. Yeah,

531
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Speaker 2: it's a very strange.

532
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 4: It's funny this is such a universal issue that also

533
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 4: have figured out a way around it.

534
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 1: Well, nothing's worse. Let me take that back. There's a

535
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: lot of things worse. But it really sucks when you

536
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 1: get into your brown sugar and it's like hard as

537
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 1: a rock.

538
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 2: You can't you can't even put the cup in.

539
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 1: You can't put anything, and you end up having to

540
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 1: chisel out of I have.

541
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Speaker 5: Googled how to recescitate.

542
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 3: Oh, is there a way?

543
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 4: There's something with the microwave. I actually can't remember. I

544
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 4: think they're putting in.

545
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 3: Steaming it maybe, yeah, or putting in like a steam shower. Okay,

546
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 3: another thing you're just consuming really fast.

547
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 2: You could just consume the sugar really fast.

548
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Speaker 1: Another thing not to do at home is under frothing

549
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 1: or burning milk.

550
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 5: Underfrothing.

551
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I used to have a very fancy like

552
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: milk frother or steamer or whatever.

553
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 3: I could never get it right. Yeah, I could never make.

554
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 4: It is very tricky. I remember working at a restaurant.

555
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Speaker 4: It was like the thing that I spent like the

556
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Speaker 4: most time on the trick is cold milk.

557
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 5: You need cold milk croth.

558
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 4: Well, and if it's old, you should just like like

559
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 4: if you left it out, put it back to the fridge.

560
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 5: That should revive it a little bit.

561
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Speaker 3: Interesting.

562
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Speaker 5: But also I have noticed so I got like.

563
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Speaker 4: A hand frother, yeah, like a wand yeah, and you

564
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 4: really need enough milk, Like I don't want all that milk,

565
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 4: but I need to waste some milk to get the hype.

566
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 3: Oh see that's wasteful and annoying.

567
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 5: No, I don't like that either.

568
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 3: This one we already know. Microwaving coffee to warm it up.

569
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Speaker 3: Don't do that. Yeah, we know that using a stovetop

570
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 3: tea kettle for pour over. This is like again reaffirming

571
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Speaker 3: like you need the goose neck.

572
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 2: Okay, wait, but is it just because of it gets

573
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Speaker 2: too hot, or is it?

574
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Speaker 1: This says pour over coffee is popular at home method

575
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 1: because it requires minimal equipment. If you really want to

576
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: master this technique, though, investing in the right tools is important.

577
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,439
Speaker 1: According to SO and so, smooth pouring and temperature control

578
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 1: are the keys to excellent pour over coffee, two things

579
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 1: that are hard to achieve with a regular stovetop kettle.

580
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense.

581
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 3: So the goose.

582
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 1: Snack and they're pointing to an electric model that I imagine

583
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: has a temperature gauge on. It allows you to select

584
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: a precise temperature and achieve a consistent poor when saturating grounds.

585
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 2: Perfect.

586
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's so much. There's so much to.

587
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 5: Know, so many takeaways.

588
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 2: I do feel kind of funny using this machine for

589
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 2: poor of a coffee because purver coffee is like the

590
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 2: simplest kind of water coffee. But like I'm doing, so,

591
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Speaker 2: I have to make it complicated by using like a

592
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 2: machine to do it.

593
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, it does take the most Like you do have

594
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 4: to stand you know, you got a way, Yeah.

595
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 2: It takes all that out.

596
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't do using low quality water. Okay, so

597
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 3: we're getting and now we're getting into like special water.

598
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 5: I don't even know where to get coffee.

599
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: Serious cafes make big investments in water filtration and treatment

600
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Speaker 1: so that their water is consistently high quality. They're suggesting

601
00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 1: carbon filters for your water.

602
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 2: I don't do that.

603
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 3: Well, that's insane, that is insane.

604
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Speaker 5: I mean I do have a brit of I guess

605
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 5: me too, But like.

606
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 3: That, I'm not using filtered water for my coffee. That's crazy.

607
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: Not cleaning your coffee and espresso machines. I'm sure, Derek,

608
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 1: you've never not cleaned.

609
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 2: Well, you know, that's interesting because what I typically do

610
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 2: is there's not really much that gets like dirty or

611
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 2: you're just using it because it's just it just pours

612
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 2: water out. So it's just the little there's like a

613
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 2: little cup that holds the filter, and I just rinse

614
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 2: it out every time. Yeah, and that's kind of basically

615
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:30,439
Speaker 2: what I do.

616
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Speaker 5: I think you're grinding though. The Do you clean every.

617
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Speaker 2: Day every time? I like brush it, I like brush

618
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 2: it clean, but clean?

619
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Speaker 5: Do you have a teeny tiny brush?

620
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Speaker 2: It's all part of the ritual.

621
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Speaker 4: I got it.

622
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Speaker 3: I got it. I've got equipment for things too. I

623
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 3: like equipment.

624
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 2: Wow, But I haven't. I honestly haven't like taken it

625
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 2: apart and like, yeah, really.

626
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 5: The oils and the coffee beans.

627
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 2: Right, that's probably true.

628
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 5: I don't know anything about.

629
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a guy step of my game.

630
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: I think it's safe to say, Derek, you're you're you're

631
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 1: doing pretty well when it comes to making the right

632
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: kind of cup of coffee at home.

633
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 2: I hope.

634
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 3: So you checked a lot of those boxes without even knowing. Yeah,

635
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,959
Speaker 3: because that's what's supposed to be done. Okay, I have

636
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 3: some bad news. Oh no, there's always a little bad news.

637
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

638
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 1: And notice how I've I'm completely ignoring tariffs. Okay, we're

639
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: not going to take about it.

640
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 4: We don't know what's going to happen, so we're not

641
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 4: perfectly on I just left CNN.

642
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 1: It's all we're doing. I'm not doing that here. But

643
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 1: obviously that's the major story.

644
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

645
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: And with coffee, Yeah, the major story, but we're gonna

646
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: ignore it. Yeah, journalism. But I do have some bad news.

647
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: Coffee capsules, k cup okay, an espresso pod right.

648
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 3: Okay, very bad, very bad. They're very bad on multiple levels.

649
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 5: The environment, Yeah, that's one.

650
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's just I always to know this, but

651
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: the capsule is old nineteen seventy six.

652
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 4: Whoa, and that was it was a mended for a coffee.

653
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is an espresso system was introduced in nineteen

654
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 1: seventy six.

655
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 3: That's what I have.

656
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 1: I have an espresso at home. Yeah, and my husband

657
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: has a cure eg. He does Duncan Ca cups and

658
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: I do espresso separate.

659
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 5: I love that.

660
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 3: Oh we do. Oh yeahs yes, we do listeners.

661
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 2: No.

662
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: My Mati of Honor got me then espresso machine for

663
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: my wedding and it is great.

664
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Speaker 3: It is great. Well, but I might have to stop

665
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:25,239
Speaker 3: using it.

666
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 5: Huh, tell us more.

667
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 6: One.

668
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 3: It's not budget friendly.

669
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 1: I know that about an espresso, and espresso is more

670
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: expensive than like your Duncan.

671
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 3: Ca cups or whatever.

672
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: Each capsule holds just five grams of coffee. If you

673
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: do the math, it costs three to four times more than.

674
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 3: The specialty coffee cup.

675
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 6: Whoa.

676
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: Really yeah, yeah, so you know that's not great. I

677
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: don't love that in this economy now, yes, okay, no,

678
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,959
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, Lauren, they're little pods of unrecycled waste.

679
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, although an espresso you can request a you return them.

680
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I do turn you come back to an

681
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: espressout nice, but they're aluminum. They you know, not everyone

682
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: does that and totally not everyone's as.

683
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 3: Good as I am.

684
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: No, no, but like I can see that being a

685
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: very it's a process.

686
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 4: I actually we we very briefly had an espresso. I

687
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 4: think it was my parents, and then I don't know

688
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 4: what happened to it, but I did request six. I

689
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 4: was so upset about this thing, and it never happened.

690
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 4: I can't remember why. I think I had to take

691
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 4: it to the Like it couldn't just be.

692
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 3: Taking to send you a bag and you supposed to

693
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 3: just be able to mail it. Did you have to

694
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 3: take it somewhere?

695
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 4: I would have had to take it to the post office,

696
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 4: which was hard past from.

697
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 2: Okayposing of batteries, it's like very difficult.

698
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 4: Oh my god, where do we put the battery? Don't know.

699
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 4: For a long this time, I just had old batteries

700
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 4: sitting on a shelf because I was like, I don't.

701
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 5: And then finally I was like.

702
00:29:55,040 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, someone else, this is the heart as part of

703
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Speaker 1: the capsule.

704
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 3: Bad news. They're not good for your health.

705
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 5: Oh really?

706
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, so plastic pods like your K cup, your cured cups,

707
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: microplastic microplastics and those are tied to inflammations around the body. Like,

708
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: that's not good. But the aluminum ones are bad too.

709
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: They can sneak your way into your cup. And who

710
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: wants aluminum?

711
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 5: That's like good?

712
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 3: Breast cancer, increased chances, Alzheimer.

713
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 5: All the terrible things.

714
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 3: Yes, my husband. I read this to my husband and

715
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 3: he's like, you know who wrote that?

716
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: Some environmentalists who wants like like, you know, he's trying

717
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: to scare you.

718
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 3: But I believe some of this. I mean, for sure,

719
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 3: who thinks aluminium and plastic is good for you?

720
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: And if it's seeping into your coffee because it's heated

721
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: right by your right machine.

722
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 4: They tell you can't put all the plastic in the microwave.

723
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 4: So is similar. Let me just share some follow up

724
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 4: terrible news. I listened to this podcast about people getting

725
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 4: cancer so much younger.

726
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 3: Why did you do that?

727
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 4: I know, I'm sorry. Well my neighbors said it and

728
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 4: he has cancer, and so I was listening for him.

729
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 4: But oh man, but the what they're finding is besides

730
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,479
Speaker 4: breast cancer, it's the digestive track that's being hit. So

731
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 4: and it said specifically, if you were born after a

732
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 4: certain year, which we all were. We have all that

733
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 4: process shit, oh my god, like the red dye forty

734
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 4: or whatever, microplastics and the the stuff.

735
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, totally. So I wouldn't live your life.

736
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 3: People live your life.

737
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: We're all screwed, and in two minutes someone's gonna say, no, no,

738
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: we were wrong.

739
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 3: That doesn't cause cancer. That actually helps prevent cancer.

740
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, like kickups for all.

741
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: It's ever changing, especially with coffee everything, because now I'm

742
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: so invested in the news of coffee. I see this

743
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: like one month it's coffee can increase your lifespan, and

744
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: then the next month it's coffee leads to early premature death.

745
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 3: I mean it's insane.

746
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 4: Well that's also like the kind of annoying cycle of

747
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 4: academic study.

748
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 3: Yes, and nutrition news like a nutrition sign.

749
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't know everything, but we'll come out and

750
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: tell you we've it's definitive and scare you.

751
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 6: Yeah.

752
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: Okay, the last news item is fun oh gidding Yay.

753
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 5: Ending on a high.

754
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: Note, food and Wine came out with the top ten

755
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: coffee cities in America.

756
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 5: Okay, should we guess?

757
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was my plan. Yeah, I was going to

758
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 3: have everybody guests.

759
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: So there's ten, and I can let you know where

760
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: on the list to name cities.

761
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 2: So the first time that comes to mind is Seattle

762
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 2: for sure.

763
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 5: Okay, I agree with Derek.

764
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 3: Seattle is obviously on this list, but I got to

765
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 3: tell you it's number three. Okay, okay, number three.

766
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: There are a couple of controversies on this list, at

767
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 1: least from where.

768
00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 2: I say, right, But some editorial judgements were made in

769
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 2: this list.

770
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's some explanation of it, but some of

771
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: it is not satisfactory.

772
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So we've got Seattle, that's number three.

773
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: San Francisco, correct, San Francisco is, I believe number.

774
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 3: Six, Okay.

775
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: New York obviously, yeah, and that I don't love. New

776
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: York is number two?

777
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 5: Whoa in Seattle?

778
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 3: Yeah? And here's like, New York makes the list because

779
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 3: New York has everything. Yeah, here's everything. It just has everything.

780
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, But I don't think of New York, and I

781
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: lived here a long time as a place where you

782
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: like duck into your favorite local mom and pop coffee.

783
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: Maybe in Brooklyn, but like in Manhattan where I lived

784
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: mostly it was like big boxy chain coffee. Because we

785
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: have everything here in New York. Yeah, so I don't

786
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: know that like it should.

787
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Speaker 3: Be at number two.

788
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think top five, you think top five. And

789
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 4: it's also like the culture like the Friends Friends Central.

790
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 3: Friends are for coffee.

791
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 5: For trying to convince everybody that this is where you

792
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 5: get your coffee.

793
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 3: You're right, you're right. Yeah.

794
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 2: I agree though that like places like Brooklyn are going

795
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 2: to have more of the type of.

796
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Speaker 5: Right of I have coffee that I could walk to.

797
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right. I forget

798
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 3: the other.

799
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Speaker 1: I know, I know, but yeah, you're right. In that context,

800
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: it makes sense and it says here. I think it

801
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: does mention some coffee shops. The Big Apples home to

802
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: some of the best specialty cafes in the country. Coffee

803
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: Project New York has seven locations in Manhattan, Brooklyn, and

804
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 1: Queens Denmark. Darling La Cabra has opened two shops in Manhattan,

805
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: A Roast Tree in Brooklyn's Bushwick neighborhood.

806
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 3: Day Glow and say head to a Bracco in.

807
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: The East Village up into any of these. No Cafe Grumpy,

808
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: I know Cafe Grumpy from Girls.

809
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, there are some.

810
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: There's a lot that I just don't know of because

811
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: I live and I've spent all my time in midtown.

812
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 4: Let me say that a friend of a friend of

813
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 4: ours owns three Culture cafes. So Culture is a midtown enterprise,

814
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 4: and I came across them when I worked on thirty ninth.

815
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 4: They were on thirty seventh or eighth, and I actually

816
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 4: found them because they have legitimately the best cookies.

817
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 3: Oh ever, I highly recommend.

818
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 4: I've only been to the thirty seventh or thirtieth whatever

819
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 4: one that is, but I recommend, and also like a

820
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 4: lovely small feeling.

821
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Speaker 5: Like I walked in, I was like, I'm in Brooklyn. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

822
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 5: I was like, I'm in midtown.

823
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, just midtown.

824
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 5: Okay, so let me guess more.

825
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 2: I'm in a guest Salt Lake is not is not

826
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Speaker 2: on the list on the list, although I got to say,

827
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 2: as somebody who like left the LDS Church and then

828
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 2: went back to Utah and went to a coffee shop,

829
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 2: the vibes were really good there because it's kind of

830
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 2: this like counter cultural thing. Yeah, any any time you're

831
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 2: like in the space, yes exactly, you were like a

832
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 2: shop that is catering people that are kind of on

833
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 2: the outsides of the core culture, you get kind of

834
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 2: interesting communal communal stuff. So I actually do recommend the

835
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 2: coffee shops and salt like, here's the.

836
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 3: Same from bars in Salt Lake City. Because I watched Real.

837
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,240
Speaker 5: And Something. Someone's telling you, yeah.

838
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 3: There are there are hot bars, and like.

839
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 2: The Tavernacle is one that's really a name, have Vernackle.

840
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 2: It's really good.

841
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: That reminds me of all the good haircut place names.

842
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, hair Force one is called Tangled, so cute.

843
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess, Oh, that's good. I'm gonna guess New Orleans.

844
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 3: Is Why did you think of New Orleans? New Orleans

845
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 3: is number five?

846
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 5: Blue coffee.

847
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 4: I order the iced New Orleans coffee that has a

848
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 4: chickory or something. So I was thinking of places that

849
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 4: have a unique take on Yes, number five, that's exciting.

850
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 4: What on earth could be one? Now, I'm just like

851
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 4: big cities like Chicken.

852
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a weird one, are we Let's narrow

853
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 2: it down to coast. I'm going to say it's West coast.

854
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 2: It's West coast, Okay? Is it like Portland?

855
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: Portland is on here? Of course Portland is number four.

856
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: Huge coffee culture in Portland, so it's on there.

857
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 5: We already said Los Angeles.

858
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, isn't that crazy?

859
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 5: That is fault.

860
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,439
Speaker 2: That's number one, it's number one.

861
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 5: Where are these editors from. I know, it's so weird,

862
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 5: like I would not have guessed.

863
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, for so many reasons. It's weird, but

864
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 3: this is what they say.

865
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: Los Angeles tops this year's list with a creative and

866
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 1: diverse cafe scene, where coffee and espresso drinks are served

867
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 1: in iconic architectural spaces, relaxing lounges and tiny shops. Espressos

868
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 1: are extracted by scientists turned coffee superstar Jack Benchacal at

869
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: Endorphien in Chinatown.

870
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 3: Cafe de Ola.

871
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: Lattes have a devoted following at Picaresca Bara de Cafe

872
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: in Boyle Heights. I mean, they go through a bunch

873
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:02,919
Speaker 1: of these like independent sounding coffee shops. But here's why

874
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: this makes no sense because La is not a walking city. Yeah,

875
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: who is driving and parking to coffee a coffee shop?

876
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 3: That's so weird to me to think about.

877
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean, but.

878
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 4: I also feel like there's something about La culture to

879
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 4: know the thing that's unique or cool, and then to

880
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 4: have said that you have gone.

881
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 3: That's so true too. That's so true too.

882
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 4: You're not gonna happen across something that's insane exactly.

883
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 3: It's very odd. It's a very odd choice.

884
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 5: Yeah.

885
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, you do think of coffee shops as like tied

886
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 2: with like walking city culture.

887
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do.

888
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 1: That's why, Like I find most suburbs, including my own,

889
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: like not the best coffee shops.

890
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 3: You've got a dunk, We've got you know, the chains.

891
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't have any independent coffee shops in my

892
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: suburban town right now.

893
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 4: Okay, with where my parents live, it's yeah, you know

894
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 4: what you're getting into.

895
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 2: I'm intrigued, though, I will next I'm in my meeting Jesse.

896
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 4: There actually none of the coffee shops were open. I

897
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 4: guess it was like late on a Sunday, but we

898
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 4: were kind of desperate for coffee. There were a lot

899
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 4: in that one space. But anyway, I think going in May,

900
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 4: I'm going to try to listeners.

901
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially if you're in La like tell Us.

902
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: If this rings true that you feel like La is

903
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: a great coffee town like tell Us. If that's true,

904
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: if you visited recently, I'd love to hear so.

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00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 5: I in one of those places.

906
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 3: Okay, we were there. I don't know any of the

907
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 3: I don't know any of these neighborhoods, but.

908
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: Obviously I stay in the Manhattan of LA. It's like

909
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: West Hollywood, you know, like Beverly Hills where I live

910
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: in work.

911
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 3: Okay, so guess seven or ten?

912
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, I will tell you seven is incredibly controversial.

913
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 2: But I could tell because you were excited about it,

914
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 2: so I knew it was personal.

915
00:39:58,719 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 3: This is personal.

916
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: How do you take a town known for one kind

917
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: of coffee and defined by this coffee brand and pretend

918
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,919
Speaker 1: that there's a culture around going anywhere else?

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00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 3: Please? And what I don't what.

920
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: I assume is happening here is they're looking at all

921
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: of the college centers or I'm sure they're independent coffee shops.

922
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 3: Right, but if you took that all out, you would

923
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Speaker 3: be left with Duncan only. Yeah, right, what one hundred percent?

924
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 5: Everyone would just go to Duncan.

925
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: No, they don't even mention the major identity of this city.

926
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 3: Like it's like, what is it like?

927
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 5: It's like letter to the editor.

928
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 3: It's it's really weird. What is it like?

929
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 5: It's like Seattle in Starbucks?

930
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, except I feel like Seattle had a coffee identity

931
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Speaker 1: even before Starbucks, and.

932
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Speaker 2: Then it's what's kind of benefited from that. Yeah, I

933
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Speaker 2: don't know.

934
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Speaker 3: That's very weird to me, but I'm biased. Okay, eight

935
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Speaker 3: or ten.

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Speaker 2: Austin, no, no anywhere in Texas, no, no, no, okay.

937
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 3: No, we are we are back.

938
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 5: We are Sat Louis.

939
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Speaker 1: We are on the East coast, and we are not

940
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Speaker 1: in the contiguous United States.

941
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 3: Philadelphia is not one.

942
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 5: Uh New Jersey.

943
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 3: No, think southern down south east coast.

944
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 5: You're losing my think Cuban, think.

945
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 2: Cuban Puerto Rico.

946
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 3: Puerto Rico is on there, so sun Quin is on there.

947
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Speaker 3: That's number ten.

948
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: But Miami, oh, Miami, I hear the Miami Cuban coffee

949
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: scene I hear is like amazing.

950
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 5: That does make sense, the analyst the last three.

951
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:50,760
Speaker 1: Miami is number eight, and yeah, with a thriving Cuban community,

952
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: it's fitting the Cuban corta titos and remained massively popular.

953
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 3: But like it's more than just the coffee.

954
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: It's like the whole experience and like people rulling cigars

955
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 1: outside and like families gathering, Like I want to experience that.

956
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 3: Ye, that sounds awesome and unique and cool. So I

957
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,280
Speaker 3: love that Nina is Honolulu, which makes sense.

958
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: The only place in America that can make coffee right, truly, truly.

959
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 3: The only place that can make it. It requires it.

960
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 5: Well, all of our coffee from there.

961
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 3: I don't want to talk about it.

962
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: I don't even want to talk about And then sin

963
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,439
Speaker 1: one makes sense too, and I think that's a very

964
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: cool addition.

965
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 3: That's a cool addition because that's a culture there too.

966
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 3: I've been to one. It's a big part of the

967
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 3: culture as well. So this was such an interesting list.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm curious if listeners are from a city that

969
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Speaker 2: we did not mention, and if you feel like you

970
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 2: have a really strong coffee scene, like.

971
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, because like Madison, Wisconsin, great coffee scene, great mom

972
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 1: and pop independent coffee scene.

973
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 3: That's great. I don't know that that's considered a.

974
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: Big city or makes this list based on whatever their

975
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: you know, requisites were, but I can think of it.

976
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 1: Austin you mentioned is a great coffee city. I can

977
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: think of others. Yeah, certainly be better than New York, LA.

978
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: So weird amaz but yeah, like email us at off

979
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Speaker 1: the Cup at gmail dot com with your thoughts on

980
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: this list.

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00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to recommendations of where we should be going.

982
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, best cup of coffee in your city?

983
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: Love that because I was before the before we got

984
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: on here, I was saying, how much travel I have

985
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: coming up. I'm going to Michigan, going to la going

986
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: to Florida, going to Ithaca, going to Cornell, going somewhere else.

987
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 5: It's too much, but sure it's got to have some

988
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 5: good coffee.

989
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 3: I'm not going to Detroit.

990
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 1: I'm going to Mecano Island, which is a really fun,

991
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: cute little place many times. But it's like a plane,

992
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: another plane, a ferry, and then a horse because there's

993
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: horse on this island.

994
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:52,919
Speaker 4: Yeah.

995
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very cool. It's like back in time.

996
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 5: But it takes you three days to get there, it does.

997
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: It takes yeah, all the transportation. So I'll be looking

998
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: for coffee everywhere.

999
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 2: Nice.

1000
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 4: Well let us know, So let me just end with

1001
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,439
Speaker 4: our question please, Okay.

1002
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 3: So whose questions were these?

1003
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 4: This is from Ava Ava, our friend from DC, Connecticut.

1004
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 6: Ye.

1005
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 4: So she's wondering if we've heard of mushroom coffee or

1006
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 4: butter coffee, which I did try for a spell, like

1007
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 4: my husband and I tried, like the ketto diet for

1008
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 4: like thirty.

1009
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 3: Days, yes keto, right, yes, yes.

1010
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 5: And so the butter coffee I.

1011
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:36,439
Speaker 3: Don't want I know, yeah, Lauren, I mean.

1012
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 5: We didn't stick with it, Laura, obviously, hold on.

1013
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 3: I've heard of mushroom coffee.

1014
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: In fact, one of our guest, Cherry Shepherd, talked about

1015
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: drinking mushro CoFe mushroom tea. I would give that a try.

1016
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: I haven't yet, but I would tell me. Butter coffee

1017
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: is not what I think it is.

1018
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 4: It is you you get the good butter, the Irish,

1019
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 4: the Irish butter, you take like a tailor spooner too.

1020
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 5: And then what happened. I think we had to like

1021
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 5: blend the coffee.

1022
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 3: Is this to replace the dairy in the coffee?

1023
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, you just put so It's like if you really

1024
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 4: need something like not into a black coffee. And I'm

1025
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 4: not really into black coffee. But I did end up

1026
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 4: drinking the black coffee because ultimately.

1027
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:19,720
Speaker 5: This was too much.

1028
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 4: But I I sort of got used to it, but

1029
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 4: it's not something that I would commit to for life.

1030
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 2: Well, I've had the experience of like realizing I don't

1031
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 2: have milk, and then it's like I guess I mean

1032
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 2: in black cofee some but like, I'll try a choice.

1033
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 5: It's a choice. It was, yeah, I don't know. It

1034
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 5: was like a rit There was a particular richness. For sure.

1035
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 3: This hasn't come up because why would it. But I

1036
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 3: have a butter phobia and.

1037
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: Like deeply, deeply dislike butter, like I'm afraid of it.

1038
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, oh my gosh, I'll.

1039
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: Cook with it, like for a with a steak, like,

1040
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: but I don't like a lot of it, and I

1041
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: don't want to see it and I don't want to

1042
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: know it's there. Why Oh, I just really don't like it.

1043
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: And the worst thing happened. If you ask my son,

1044
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 1: he'll say this is this was.

1045
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 3: The worst day of our lives. We were out driving around.

1046
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: We stopped at a pizza place for lunch, and he

1047
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: got his favorite butter and cheese pasta, of course, and

1048
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: this was particularly buttery. And I'm sitting next to him

1049
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: and he comes up and he gives me a giant

1050
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: kiss on the cheek and can I tell you the

1051
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: butter residue on my face. I shoot up out of

1052
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: my seat. I run out of the restaurant, you guys screaming.

1053
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 2: Like like oh, sir, screaming, kissing you on the cheek.

1054
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 3: It didn't matter, It didn't matter. It was so awful.

1055
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 3: I can still feel it.

1056
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 2: Wow. So do you do you like popcorn? And do

1057
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 2: you put butter on the popcorn?

1058
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 1: Don't put butter on popcorn anywhere I can see it

1059
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: or feel it.

1060
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 3: The greasy I don't want it.

1061
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: It can be there, and I know it adds to taste,

1062
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: to flavor, it can be in it.

1063
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 3: I don't want to see it.

1064
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 2: It taste this with like mayonnaise. I've never heard of

1065
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 2: somebody feeling this way about better. So that's it.

1066
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 5: It's just a lard situation that happens.

1067
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 3: It's solid fat.

1068
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you imagine it like hardening again in

1069
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 2: your yea.

1070
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 3: And the smell.

1071
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how close the smell was to

1072
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: my nose when he kissed me.

1073
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 3: It was all over my face. I could not get

1074
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 3: it off.

1075
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 5: Oh my god, it's.

1076
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 3: A bad day.

1077
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 4: This is so.

1078
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 1: I can't believe there's a thing called butter coffee. That's disgusting.

1079
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 2: Talking coffee is really like revealing. Yeah, this is really

1080
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:39,720
Speaker 2: I never.

1081
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: Thought we'd have to go there.

1082
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 5: Why would I The last thing you're keeping to yourself.

1083
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 3: Do you also need to know that I'm afraid of spiders?

1084
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 6: Is that gonna come up in coffee?

1085
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:50,919
Speaker 2: Spider? Okay?

1086
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 3: What else?

1087
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 4: Well, she was just saying, I would love to know

1088
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 4: how you guys keep your teeth looking white with all

1089
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 4: this coffee or drinking.

1090
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 3: I mean, I use whitening toothpaste, but that's it.

1091
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how white.

1092
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, between coffee red wine. I used to smoke, like

1093
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: I don't think that's I remember.

1094
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,760
Speaker 4: I know filters like I've seen people drink hot coffee

1095
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 4: with a straw, which I'm assuming is ah for teeth,

1096
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,720
Speaker 4: trying to navigate around your teeth.

1097
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 2: I feel like that ruins the experience, that super hair of.

1098
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 6: All of it.

1099
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 4: They're trying to squeeze a little straw through that like

1100
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 4: little tiny.

1101
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1102
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 5: The whole thing is No, that's that's weird.

1103
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1104
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 5: We're just doing I.

1105
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: Don't have a great answer about the teeth whitening because

1106
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:36,240
Speaker 1: I drank a lot of coffee.

1107
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

1108
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:38,879
Speaker 2: Good luck.

1109
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: Good luck though, And I love those questions, thank you,

1110
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: I know, keep them coming, questions.

1111
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love questions.

1112
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is very exciting.

1113
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Speaker 1: This was another great cathartic, yes, very cathartic revealing.

1114
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 3: Talk to Coffee got a lot off my chest. I

1115
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 3: found out I wasn't alone.

1116
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 6: It's great.

1117
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 2: I got to feel smug about how I make my.

1118
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Speaker 1: Fort yourself on the back, dere so great.

1119
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Speaker 5: Thanks, Okay, see you next time, all right by.

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Speaker 1: For Off the Cup, I am your host, Si Cup.

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Speaker 1: Editing and sound design by Derek Clements. Our executive producers

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Speaker 1: are me Si Cup, Lauren Hanson, and Lindsay Hoffman. Rate

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