1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,439 Speaker 1: And that's what you really missed with Jenna. 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,119 Speaker 2: And Kevin An iHeartRadio podcast. 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to You, and that's what you're really miss this podcast, 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: No No No Exclusive Exclusive Part two Part two, Part two. 5 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 2: We had Adamanders, the music producer extraordinary, talking about his 6 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: new movie and all things Glee, and I mean, you 7 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 2: couldn't shut us up. 8 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: There's so much to talk about still, so there was 9 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 1: too much to put in one episode. It's really the truth. 10 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 2: We might even have to have him back again, I know. 11 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 3: I know. 12 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: Well he wants to turn the tables on us, so 13 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: maybe he can interview us instead. 14 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, Okay, get into it. This is part 15 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 2: two with Adamanders. 16 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 1: Talk to me about the mashup? 17 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 3: Oh the pain of my existence? 18 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: Really? 19 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 3: So I think Bill. I didn't interview with Bill when 20 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 3: they asked me once because that was like a thing 21 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 3: we came up with it. Yeah, yeah, but it was 22 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 3: a lyric thing, right, because they were trying to tell 23 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 3: a story in the scripts, Well what if we take 24 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 3: the verse of this song in the chorus of this song. 25 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 3: So Bill Magazine was like, so what is a mashup? 26 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 3: And I said, well, you take two perfectly good songs 27 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 3: and you put them together to make one bad songs. 28 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 3: How I described the mashup, that's funny, and usually it 29 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 3: was true. There were some good ones, so, like singing 30 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 3: in the rain Umbrella was really cool. 31 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, the coolest. 32 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 4: My favorite was the Adele mashup. 33 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 2: I mean that's the best. 34 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 3: That was the best. That was probably my favorite moment 35 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 3: on the show. Yeah, so the cool thing. So behind 36 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 3: the scenes thing there was Adele did not approve us 37 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 3: smashing those two songs up. And it was someone like 38 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 3: you and rumor has it, and she said no, she 39 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 3: denied us. So then I said, well, crap, let's just 40 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 3: do it and hopefully she'll like it and she'll change 41 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 3: her mind. So we produced it without approval. So we 42 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 3: did this version and I sent her the demo and 43 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 3: or wrote to rock Stream a rough stringer because she 44 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 3: signed it. She was signing from it. Yeah, and she 45 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 3: came back said, I freaking love this. It's approved, and 46 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 3: only that then she started tweeting about it. Remember she's 47 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 3: got it like eighty million views on it before the 48 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 3: show even the episode came out. 49 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 4: Wow, she loved it so much. 50 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 3: So that was really one of those moments you're like Okay, 51 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 3: that's cool, Like what we did enough to change her 52 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 3: mind and improve it. 53 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 2: So I mean that was undeniable. That was taking two 54 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 2: brilliant songs and also making a brilliant matter. So yeah, 55 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: it was really really good. 56 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 4: Some of them are awful, let's be honest. 57 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 2: Some of them didn't work as well. 58 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 3: Now you know who I ran into the other day 59 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 3: with croudy Mouth chord or I was golfing and he 60 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 3: was just there. I'm like, what are you doing here? 61 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 3: Sounds right? Yeah, were some of the reason I thought 62 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 3: of that when you said that, because that those songs, yeah, yeah. 63 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 2: Those of those weird those those okay, those like funny 64 00:02:55,919 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 2: original songs that you'd be given lyrics to, like Trouty. 65 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,119 Speaker 3: The know, like I'm supposed to make a song? 66 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: What Ian? What we were talking like Ian would normally 67 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 2: sort of write these insane lyrics and then you like, 68 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 2: good luck to you figure out I got some lyrics 69 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 2: that were so awful. 70 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 3: And then and then Ryan with the song was like, 71 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 3: the song's not good. I'm like, yeah, it's terrible, terrible, like, 72 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:19,679 Speaker 3: but the lyrics like what am I supposed to do 73 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 3: with it? I mean, it's mouth? 74 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 4: And then what was like a my my Cup. 75 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 2: And then my Cup was a jam? 76 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 3: You guys, what was the big ass something? 77 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: Held to the know? 78 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 3: There was something. 79 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 5: My big ass heart, My big ass heart. That's the 80 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 5: one foor song I've ever written. I can't I can't 81 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 5: win them all. Hell to the and My Cup are jams. 82 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: They're jams, They're classics. Now I feel pretty pretty. That 83 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: was a great mashup. 84 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 3: Oh that was so good. I love that. 85 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 2: I think the original mashups were also brilliant. Halo Walking 86 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: in Sunshine it's, oh my god, so good. 87 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys liked them more than I did because 88 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 3: Aaron I had to figure those out and vocals together. 89 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 3: It was so much and with the time constraint, right 90 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 3: when they would give us things like warblers, right thing 91 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 3: for this crap right messing with the system man. 92 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 6: Trouble were two songs together, that's like twice the work 93 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 6: for one song, and then a cappella that takes days 94 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 6: to do. 95 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 3: Turn around one song. I'd be up all night all 96 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 3: the time. I remember Blackbird y Oh yeah, freaking I 97 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 3: had to. I started that at ten at night and 98 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 3: finished at six in the morning, just singing with a 99 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 3: mic and I had a baby in newborns. I'd go 100 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 3: feed him in between takes. Oh my god, I got 101 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 3: I got night shift. 102 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 4: I guess, just give me. 103 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 3: I had the baby monitor by my pro tools and 104 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 3: I'd just do vocals and then see him wake up 105 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 3: and I go feed, take a break, and then keep working. 106 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: The MASHs were pretty crazy, and they just threw two 107 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: songs and like make these work basically. 108 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, no regard for if ones three four 109 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 3: and one's four four and. 110 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 4: Yes, like oh yeah. 111 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 3: It was just complete chaos. 112 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 2: You can also tell there were some of those who're like, oh, 113 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 2: they really like they got lucky on these two over 114 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 2: here because you guys were able to make or these 115 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 2: two songs have nothing to do with each other. Yeah 116 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 2: that's right, yeah, music lyrically nothing. 117 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 3: So then we had to we'd have to pick a horse. Okay, 118 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 3: who's the boss like of these two songs? Yeah, destroyed 119 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 3: right right coin Yeah, it was pretty early, but man, 120 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 3: it was fun too. It was they were good challenges. 121 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 3: I like a challenge, so I would never say no, 122 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 3: like because there was a something I don't know button 123 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 3: for punishment, I don't know. 124 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 2: Yah, I mean you're creative, like Okay, how do we 125 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 2: problem solve? 126 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 3: This? Actually was fun on the standpoint, like we have, 127 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 3: these are horrible ideas, let's figure it out, let's make 128 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 3: it work. So there was some some something fun about 129 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 3: it too, but it was pretty crazy. 130 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 2: Speaking of challenges, did you when you first started we 131 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 2: met you, like when Jenna Amber, Chris and I or 132 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 2: with Brad Ellis and we were practicing for the pilot 133 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 2: and you came in, introduced yourself to us, and you 134 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 2: hadn't worked with anybody yet because you're also asking Brad 135 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 2: about Leah's voice. You were asking about Corey's voice and 136 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: our voice, and Brad had. 137 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: Been in the auditions at least and kind of around us, 138 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: that's right. 139 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 2: How did you go about from then and out? 140 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: Sort of? 141 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 2: Was that something to consider this? I mean, because you 142 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 2: obviously got the scripts. This person has to sing of 143 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 2: this song, this person has singing that song. Working around 144 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 2: everybody's we all had very different styles of singing, and 145 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 2: some people hadn't sung before coming into it. 146 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 147 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 2: On in addition to figuring out how to turn around 148 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 2: these songs overnight a lot of times, also, how do 149 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 2: you get hurting us cats over here who all sing 150 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 2: differently onto the same record was a challenge. 151 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 3: I mean, and you're tired and you pull up the 152 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 3: next song and I'm looking at the lyrics and I know, 153 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 3: I got five of you that have to be able 154 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 3: to sing on this thing, and oh my gosh, like 155 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 3: how do I split this up? And then the script 156 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 3: and you're trying to make it work with the story too. 157 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 3: You know, he's singing, yeah, but that doesn't work the 158 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 3: way they have it. Script doesn't work at all musically, 159 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 3: and that person can't sing that part. 160 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 2: And who would end up most of the time singing 161 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 2: which parts? 162 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? I decided all that. Yeah. Wow, So that was 163 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 3: always the mind meld, Like that was so hard and 164 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 3: knowing you obviously, I got to know your voices really 165 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 3: well over time, and in the beginning, like we did 166 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 3: stuff that was a complete like, well that didn't work 167 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 3: because I didn't you know. I remember we had done 168 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 3: Chord's first song before he even was cast, right, so 169 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 3: he comes in, it's completely the wrong keyboard guy. This 170 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 3: guys killed on the first song he did. But then 171 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 3: you learn, okay, I'm not doing that again. You keep 172 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 3: notes and yeah, but it was hard, man, when you 173 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 3: had to weave five six cast members into one song 174 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 3: and make it work for everyone. How do you even 175 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 3: pick a key? Yeah right, you know it's all you 176 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 3: wanted in a different key. But I have to make 177 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 3: all of you sound good. So it was that was 178 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 3: a huge challenge every song man we got We got 179 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 3: pretty good at it. You know, if you do something 180 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 3: eight hundred times, what's the rule? Seven thousand hours? 181 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: Yeah one, so expert expert? What about those original songs, 182 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: like original original, like the good ones like Loser like 183 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: Me and get It Right? What were those like for you? 184 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 3: That was fun? I remember Ryan call then you wanted 185 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 3: to do the first original and it was actually Christmas 186 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 3: in Iowa again, and I had this idea first of 187 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 3: all to bring in Max Martin, who's you know, the Swede, 188 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 3: you know, amazing songwriter, probably the greatest pop songwriter of 189 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 3: all time. Well we were kind of a Juggernau at 190 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 3: that point, so I figured he wants he likes being 191 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 3: part of pop culture stuff. So yeah, yeah, I'm man. 192 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 3: Actually pair of called him in Sweden and we got 193 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 3: him in. And so he sent this kind of riff, 194 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 3: this guitar thing and kind of a verse jam that 195 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 3: you know that guitar riff that that's right. I got that. 196 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 4: Track, and then you know, I was charged. 197 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 3: I had to write melody lyrics. 198 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 2: And no pressure. Just that's the biggest Max. 199 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and this idea of the loser like me hit 200 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 3: me and I wrote this whole lyric for the chorus. 201 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 3: I sent it to Max, whose name is actually Martin 202 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 3: by the way, Martin to the Max crazy, So I, uh, 203 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 3: that's so Swedish. By the way, if you know Swedes, 204 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 3: Max Martin, it's the most Swedish thing ever. But anyway, 205 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 3: I sent him this lyric and he's like, I don't 206 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 3: get it. Why would anyone want to be a loser? 207 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 4: And I'm like, dude, have you watched the show? 208 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 3: No? And I'm like, watch the show and call me back. 209 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 3: So he watched the show and he calls me back. Okay, 210 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 3: it's brilliant. 211 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 2: This is key here. It's very important for TV. 212 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 4: And uh yeah. So that was the number one. That 213 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 4: was awesome. 214 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 3: I love that song. And that same episode, the number 215 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 3: two song was get It Right, which was a song 216 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 3: Nikki and Parre and I wrote. It was just really 217 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 3: pretty valid and we'd actually written that for something else 218 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 3: and we thought it fit really well, and it did. 219 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: It's like you wrote it for the show. 220 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so great. So those were the first two 221 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 3: originals and they did did really well. 222 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, monsters. 223 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: I like doing the other Loser like me. The second 224 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: one too, that we did Kevin in the World, No, 225 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: the Ballad version hundred episode version. 226 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: I loved that. 227 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 3: That was cool. 228 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was really cool. 229 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 230 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 4: I wasn't invited to those parties. I'm still. 231 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 3: You know what. I wasn't invited to the hundred two hundred, 232 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 3: three hundred, four hundred, five hundred song parties. 233 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 2: You guys, the department just got neglected. There were we dude, mind, 234 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 2: it can't have time off. You have to make eighteen 235 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 2: more songs. 236 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: He's busy working. 237 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 6: Yea. 238 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 3: There's like. So then I finally got a spy. It 239 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 3: would like tip me off. They're having a party. I'm like, 240 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 3: I'm coming over, and I show up. 241 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 4: I'm like, what are you doing here? 242 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 3: We didn't invite you. Funny story, So you remember we 243 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 3: did our rap party for the whole series and they 244 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 3: were handing out sweatshirts. It's great. So I go to 245 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 3: that table and I go to the thing and it's 246 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 3: a music department and I look at the sheet with 247 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 3: the names on there, and there's six names on there 248 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 3: I've never heard of. 249 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 4: I don't know any of these people are. And I 250 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 4: look and I'm not on there, and neither. 251 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 3: Is anyone from my team, and I go, huh, that's interesting. 252 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 3: So I look at the the guy manning the table 253 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 3: and I go, so we got two options. 254 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 4: I said, hand me a double X or call security. 255 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 3: I'm walking out of here with a freaking sweatshirt after. 256 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 2: All this, it's crazy. 257 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: That's a struggle, though, would be not being on set 258 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,599 Speaker 1: every day. You guys were working so hard, like we 259 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: talked to him, Davis, like, you guys were working so hard, 260 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: literally sleepless, you know, to produce all the things that 261 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: we could do on set, and but you didn't get 262 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: you know, you're not like the face. So it's like 263 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: people don't know exactly who you are. I remember you 264 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: come to set. We'd be like this as a you know, 265 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: responsible the guy. 266 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I hired him to be on set 267 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 3: in the beginning. You know, he contracted the background singers 268 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 3: from the very first from from the rehab, the first thing, 269 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 3: like truck a one hundred singers through and I picked 270 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 3: up the twelve, you know. 271 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: That's how we started such a skill that's so crazy. 272 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 3: And I sent him on set to do lip sync, 273 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 3: you know, so at first, because I couldn't be ei 274 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 3: there I was supposed to do. There's like, no way, 275 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 3: I don't have time for this. So he was a 276 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 3: little more yeah guys than I was even yeah. 277 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: And then he got even busier too, and so then 278 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 1: he had to hire you know you guys, hired On 279 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: Lunn and just right. 280 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 3: And I kept giving him more and more responsibility because 281 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 3: I just needed help. And we run a couple of 282 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 3: studios and do when we have especially if we do 283 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 3: all the choir stuff. He's a brilliant you know, a 284 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 3: choir arrange that stuff. And then I'd be in another 285 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 3: room and it was just it was a factory. It 286 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 3: was just bonkers. But yeah, it was gosh, you are 287 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 3: out of sight, out of mind to some degree. But 288 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 3: you know, the people that need to know no, you know, 289 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 3: so I never really worried about that. I've never actually 290 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 3: liked being in the spotlight. Actually with this movie too, 291 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 3: it's very uncomfortable for me to be doing it. You 292 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 3: have to be and with the strike, I'm the only 293 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 3: one who can do press right as the director, and 294 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 3: I'm like, I hate this so much. I want to 295 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 3: go back behind the camera now. So I was quite 296 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 3: comfortable with my anonymity, but I wanted a sweatshirt. 297 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: You deserve a sweatshirt. 298 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 3: I did deserve a sweatshirt. 299 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 1: Do you have any memories of like songs where you're 300 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: like I, I mean other songs like besides we were 301 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: we the Fun Yeah, thank you the fun song like 302 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: the Bohemian Rhapsodies of the. 303 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 3: World, And that was a crazy session dashboards. Oh my gosh, 304 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 3: we sang forty eight hours on Bohemian Rhapsody. 305 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: I mean it's so good. 306 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, we like slept at East West Studios and the sunset. 307 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 3: It was balkers. It was the biggest vocal session we 308 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 3: did on the whole series. Wow, Wow ever freaking ended. 309 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 3: And it was fun though. Man, I think everybody who 310 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 3: sang on that we had so much fun. 311 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 2: I got it because it's a song, incredible. 312 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, we loved it. I got to be Freddy for 313 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 3: two days, which was fun. But yeah, it was really 314 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 3: fun taking some of those You know what was amazing 315 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 3: is even as a songwriter, I'm a way better songwriter 316 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 3: than I was before Lee. And that's what I did 317 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 3: up Untitally, I was a producer song writer in New 318 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 3: York and in Nelly and fancied myself pretty good. It 319 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 3: had a bunch of hits even at that point when 320 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 3: Ryan hired me. But I got so much better with 321 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 3: Glee because we got to dissect like eight hundred of 322 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 3: the greatest songs in history and then put it back 323 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 3: together again. Right, You can't help but learn something about songwriting, right, 324 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 3: And it got so ingrained in us that now when 325 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 3: I write songs, it's so different than it was pre Glee, 326 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 3: and I feel so much more confident, and I know 327 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 3: if it's good or bad. It's like I have this 328 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 3: like library of knowledge that planted in me from all 329 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 3: that work, and you figure whether you know it or not, 330 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 3: it goes in you're sub conscious. You're dissecting a song 331 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 3: like Rhapsody and putting it back together. You see how 332 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 3: it was made. You're like you're under the hood on 333 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 3: every single song. That was awesome too. 334 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 2: When we would get to do those types of songs, 335 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 2: or any of the songs, because some of those tracks 336 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 2: you hear sound so good and in like great way 337 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 2: so reminiscent not in like a cheap copyright of the original. 338 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 2: But I would always like, do they have the actual stems? 339 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 2: Do you get the original recordings and can sort of 340 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 2: dissect like what instruments are they using it, what sounds 341 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 2: are they using, so we can try to recreate this, 342 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 2: or you just sort of guessing. 343 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 3: Oh, sometimes the stems are available online. You can find 344 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 3: some nerd who like or some guy that should be 345 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 3: fired that like posted hair is brilliant at like finding 346 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 3: all that stuff. So you wreaming rhapsody, so we could 347 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 3: recreate that like literally to a t and then every 348 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 3: track like it's identical. It's amazing how but then the 349 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 3: other times you just had to do it by your 350 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 3: because nothing else. That was the majority of the time 351 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 3: it was about your but it was Yeah, so that 352 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 3: was a big challenge. But then you do research, like 353 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 3: what keyboard they use for this sound? There's always interviews 354 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 3: and things you could find if you dig. You imagine 355 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 3: how much time that takes. 356 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, and there's twelve hours you have to turn 357 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 2: around a song. You also have to research. 358 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 4: So that's where the Swedish factory came in. 359 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 3: When we had an army of people doing that too 360 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 3: and working on the programming trying. 361 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 4: To find that information and pair around that thing. 362 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 3: He ran himself into the ground too, but it was, Yeah, 363 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 3: that was It's very stupid that you brought that up, 364 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 3: because that was always the challenge is we got to 365 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 3: figure out how they did this. 366 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 2: And for anyone who doesn't know, stems are the breakdown 367 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 2: like each individuals. 368 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 3: Based the drums, keyboard, each part, so you can actually 369 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 3: isolate it and go, what are they doing now to 370 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 3: train here? We can isolate listening to the whole thing. 371 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 3: We can't do that, but when you can turn everything 372 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 3: else off, it's much easier to find the correct DAX 373 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 3: seven patch. You know. That was you know it's hard 374 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 3: and you're like, what is that? You do your best, 375 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 3: but much much easier if you have the stems for sure. 376 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 2: But which Ryan also lucked out by hiring you guys, 377 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 2: because I remember we had talked about at some point 378 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 2: when there started to be more and more songs and 379 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 2: your workload was becoming at some point before you really 380 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 2: had I would say like going into second season there 381 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 2: was more of an effort. You knew what you were 382 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 2: getting yourself into. We need more budget to sort of 383 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 2: build out the team. Yes, and I remember maybe it 384 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 2: was the beginning of season two and you were telling me, 385 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,239 Speaker 2: like what happened over the break and like they were 386 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 2: talking about bringing in some other producers to help, and 387 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 2: you're like, they don't. No one else is going to 388 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 2: agree to this because it does so much work. And 389 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 2: also they lucked out by hiring your team, you and 390 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 2: pair who have the ear to be able to figure 391 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 2: this out because it's one thing too sure, we'll recreate 392 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 2: a one off track and do this thing if Timbaland 393 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 2: comes in to do this track whatever. You guys are 394 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 2: also having to pay attention to every single song, hundreds 395 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 2: of songs a season, and listen for what keyboard they're 396 00:18:58,680 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 2: using in a different. 397 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 3: Skill to different to make a track is a beats guy. 398 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 3: To do something from scratch and you can do everyone 399 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 3: is a very different skill set, which we do as well. 400 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 4: It's so different. We need to recreate a track and 401 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 4: you know, Ryan. 402 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 3: One exactly the original, just look the original. Okay, Well, 403 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 3: you don't know how hard that is when you're talking 404 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 3: about you know, west Side Story for example, good luck, 405 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 3: We turned around all the west Side Story in a week. 406 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 2: With oh my god, Oh my god. 407 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 4: Crazy stuff we did. 408 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 3: I always kind of was looking over my shoulder and 409 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 3: this is really good. I don't know, you know, a 410 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 3: lot of stuff I remember. But there was a there 411 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 3: was a contingent at Fox that wanted to replace me, 412 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 3: first of all, and wanted to bring their own people 413 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 3: in and and have a bunch of people doing it. 414 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 3: And they thought they could do it cheaper, of course, 415 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 3: and I'm like, okay, Because I was smart, I negotiated 416 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 3: to make sure that I had a record budget for 417 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 3: each song, like a proper budget, so I could do 418 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 3: this right and hire the team that I needed. Do it. 419 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 3: On a normal TV budget, you can't do this. But 420 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 3: they were determined to figure out how to do it 421 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 3: on a TV budget and save the money, right. And 422 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 3: so they started on this quest of finding other people. 423 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 3: And I'm just like, good luck. And we'd sit back 424 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 3: and we do our thing, and then Ryan would hate 425 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 3: the stuff they would turn in, and the guy might 426 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 3: get one song and then you get fired, and you know, 427 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 3: whoever it was, it just never stuck because, first of all, 428 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 3: the other thing happened. It ended up costing more than 429 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 3: mine because they'd have to redo it so many times 430 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 3: because Ryan was never happy and they had to keep 431 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 3: hiring musicians over and over and over again, and that 432 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 3: gelds expense very fast. But we almost never had to 433 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 3: redo a track for Ryan. We always nailed it, and 434 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 3: so they kind of gave up after I think season 435 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 3: three or three or four seasons. 436 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 4: They were always gunning for me, but it was that long. 437 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 3: It was long. Yeah, there was a long period where 438 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 3: I had allies. Don't get me wrong, but there were 439 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 3: people who, you know, they want to save money. They're 440 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 3: always looking at the bottom line. They're like, how do 441 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 3: we get rid of this guy? 442 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, because teams no idea how music works. 443 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 3: You don't get it. They had no idea what we 444 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 3: were doing. They thought I was pocketing all the money. 445 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I've got like freaking armies on two 446 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 3: sides of the world. 447 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 2: You running the entirety of Challice Studios, not cheap, cheap. 448 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 3: It was a huge operation, and so I felt at 449 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 3: the same time I was looking on my shoulder. 450 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 4: I felt very secure because. 451 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 3: I knew Ryan would have my back number one. Yeah 452 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 3: and extreme. Yeah. Ryan's extremely loyal, That's the enough thing. 453 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 3: He's so loyal, and he liked what I do, so 454 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 3: he's not going to let them replace me. But they tried, 455 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 3: and so I looked on my shoulder. I was like, 456 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 3: never really that nervous because I'm. 457 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 4: Like, you can't. 458 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody can do this is bonkers. 459 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 4: So yeah they tried. 460 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 3: But yeah, there were times I did walk away. 461 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 4: At one point. 462 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 3: I can't remember which season it was, because I think 463 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 3: it was around there when I said when things up 464 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 3: changed and they stopped gunning for me, I just said, 465 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 3: I'm done. I'm just going to walk away. And in 466 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 3: the off season I quit. 467 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 4: And that lasted a day. 468 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 3: Right right, Yeah, he fixed it. 469 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 4: You know, so, uh yeah, it was overall them. 470 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 3: You know. Dana Walden was such a supporter, Jen Sulky, 471 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 3: huge champions mine, and they were so great and they 472 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 3: still are. 473 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 4: I mean now they've gone on to run the world. 474 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: Yeah literally, Box Disney. 475 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 3: It's crazy what they're doing. But they were huge supporters 476 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 3: of mine and always took care of me. 477 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 4: So in the end it worked out. 478 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 3: But it's weird, man, when you're doing something well and 479 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 3: they're still want to get rid of you. That's a 480 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 3: weird feeling. 481 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure it is. And it's like I have 482 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 2: no time to sleep, and you also, this is how 483 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 2: this is what I'm getting so I have to deal 484 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 2: with on top of this cool. 485 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was yeah, that's that's that's life. 486 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, the phenomenon it is. It was 487 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: like and you know, the way everybody was looking at 488 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: the baseline. There's so many of us in the Cats 489 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 1: that like, at times like I felt expendable. You know, 490 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: it's just like, how do we get rid of characters? 491 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 1: How do we make this cheaper? How do we you know? 492 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: And it just felt like I think it was just 493 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: the juggernaut of it all, like you know, them trying 494 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: to kind of, I don't know, manage the empire. 495 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 3: So you know what I did though, And I'm I 496 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 3: think it happened late enough in my career, like still 497 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 3: at pretty early. I was young, but I had been 498 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 3: around enough that I recognized what a special moment this 499 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 3: was and how unusual this success was and that this 500 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 3: was like the Beatles, And I did appreciate it while 501 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 3: we were doing it as far as it was you 502 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 3: were you both of you were two of the cast 503 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,479 Speaker 3: members that I felt like appreciated what was going on, 504 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 3: and not everybody did. You guys know, that and kind 505 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 3: of want it out right away, And I'm like, why 506 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 3: would you want out something that's lightning in a bottle? 507 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 3: Like this is never going to happen in our lives again, 508 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 3: Like that will literally still be the most successful musical 509 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 3: on TV. Ever. 510 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 4: It's never going to be topped. 511 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, no chance. And we're part of that and that's 512 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 3: special and that happens once in a career. Really, Frankly, 513 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 3: I was kept trying to remind people, my son, you 514 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 3: know how special this is, Like I know it's hard, 515 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 3: I know it sucks, but hang in, you know, because 516 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 3: it's Yeah, it's really an amazing ride. 517 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: That' wrong. 518 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 3: That's hard for young really young people starting their career. 519 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 3: Most of you, I don't know most of you had 520 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 3: it was like your first thing. 521 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 2: Almost, yeah, all of us. 522 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's hard to have any perspective. You have 523 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 3: nothing to compare it to totally. 524 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: You had a lot of the adult guy you know, 525 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: actors come in and they would kind of give their peace, 526 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 1: but they would always say, you know, like this is 527 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: really special, you guys, and you know, we're lucky to 528 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: have jobs, and you know, as simple as that, like 529 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: you're just really lucky to have a really amazing job 530 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: with good people, and then you know, take it to 531 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,479 Speaker 1: another level. This is a one Ryan said to us 532 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: a lot. This will never happen again in your real life, 533 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: so really try to you know, take that perspective. And 534 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: you know, he's try. 535 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 3: It's not that easy just to go do something else. 536 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 3: I mean, it's not. It's just easy. 537 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 2: It is because when you're surrounded by success and you're 538 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 2: during that time, everybody's getting asked to do a billion things, 539 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 2: and it feels like that's just how it's always going 540 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 2: to be. It's like, well, no, people want you because 541 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 2: you're a part of this thing that is very successful, 542 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 2: so once you're not. 543 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 3: Not so much. Yeah, it's one hundred percent. But I'm 544 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 3: very proud of what we did and I'm proud of 545 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 3: you know you guys and so many that have gone 546 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 3: on to do things and are still doing things. And 547 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 3: which is it's hard because we all have like this. 548 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 3: When it ended, there's like there's a deflating feeling to it, 549 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 3: like we peaked. It's over now and then yeah, and 550 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 3: it's a weird thing. And I remember telling Perr when 551 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 3: Glee was ending, he was like, oh, you know, we're 552 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 3: going to go do a bunch of things now, I said, 553 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 3: we're not going to get hired for a while. What 554 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 3: what you talked about? We just did the biggest thing ever. 555 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 3: I said, yeah, but everybody wants to do musical, but 556 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 3: nobody wants it to sound like Glee. Yeah, don't want 557 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 3: something different. So we were like a pariah for a while. 558 00:25:58,600 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 2: We want to. 559 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 3: So the reason I got into creating my own content 560 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 3: was because I had to create my own work. 561 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 2: You had some foresight, Yeah, so I. 562 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 3: Started selling shows. I knew it was coming, and I 563 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 3: started selling my shows before so I could give. 564 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 4: Myself work basically, keep my team working. 565 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: We're walking into them like we're here. 566 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 2: You could have just sent that out to all of it. 567 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 3: It was just a memo, ya, and you know what, 568 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 3: We're back. 569 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 2: Right, It's been enough time. 570 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 3: No, it was definitely sad. It's like, you know, even 571 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 3: like doing this movie. You know, you work so closely 572 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 3: together and then just gone everything. 573 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: It's like summer camp. 574 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a huge hole. But then we get back 575 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 4: together like this is like we never. 576 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 2: Left exactly, did Alex? Your whole everything you do is 577 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 2: I feel like such a wonderful like family, affair. Your wife, 578 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 2: Nikki is an incredible singer and songwriter and like the 579 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 2: loveliest person. Alex is extremely talented. I mean the vocals 580 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 2: he would get out of us. We would go back 581 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 2: to set and say his little mannerisms. He became like 582 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 2: a part of the glee club to us. He probably 583 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 2: didn't even know it because. 584 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: He'd be like scoop to the new would always do 585 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: that make. 586 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,239 Speaker 2: Us laugh so frustrated at us. Court had a very 587 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 2: good Alex impression. 588 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 1: He really did. 589 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 2: How was that, you know, being able to just you know, 590 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 2: you have this base to rely on people you trust 591 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 2: inherently to pull from, to be like, okay, I have 592 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 2: to stay in the studio to arrange all these things. 593 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 2: Let me pull on you know, my brother for example, 594 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 2: to come and sort of run this well. 595 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 3: Season one was the hardest season because I had no team. 596 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 3: It was Parana both. 597 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 2: You were doing everything literally every session. 598 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 3: And I got it was so hard that I don't 599 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 3: know how many people know. I got very ill after 600 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 3: season one. I actually got a tumor in my spinal 601 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 3: cord that they said was probably stress replated and I 602 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 3: had like spinal cord surgeony and it was on my 603 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 3: brain stem. I always died between season one and two. 604 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 3: It was so bad, and I'm like, I can't do this. 605 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 3: I need clone myself. And I'm like, wait a minute, 606 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 3: he's on the East coast. Hey, bro, what are you doing. 607 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 3: We grew up together in the studio making records. That's 608 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 3: how we grew up. And you know, we mixed together, 609 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 3: we wrote together, we were in a band together. Like 610 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 3: we literally had the exact same musical upbringing. How much 611 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 3: closer can I get? He's a singer like me. He's 612 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 3: probably even more anal than me, because there's not many 613 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 3: people that have the level of perfectionism a parent I 614 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 3: have worse than me. 615 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 4: Yes, I tried to calm him down. 616 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 3: Leah like we did her Christmas album and she was 617 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 3: so relieved it was me and not him. We didn't 618 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 3: hear this. 619 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 4: Oh, it's so much easier. He's so tough. 620 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: He is really tough, tough. You're tough too, but he's 621 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: really tough. 622 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 2: But what you go do vocals with anybody else after 623 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 2: the two of you, and it's a braz no, but 624 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 2: like no is good. Nobody gets the vocals that it's 625 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 2: so true, it's so true, you know. 626 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 3: What's funny is the reason he is more difficult to 627 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 3: work with than me is because at the end of 628 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 3: the day, I can say that's good enough, right, and 629 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 3: I can say, yeah, you can change that, or no, 630 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 3: you know, I like that's better. Whatever. Since he wasn't, 631 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 3: the buck didn't stop with him, so he was His 632 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 3: job was to get what I had arranged on tape 633 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 3: with you. Period. He wouldn't stop till he had it. 634 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 3: But he wasn't authorized in a way. 635 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 4: To go, that'll do. 636 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can go, I'm sick of this crap, moving on, 637 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 3: moving on, like my whole doll said. So that's why 638 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 3: it's probably easier with me, but we're both just as anal. 639 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 3: So he moved out to work on Glee season two, 640 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 3: and yeah, it stayed from that point on, and it 641 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 3: was like having a clone and then freed me up 642 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 3: to just doing all of it. Was just impossible do 643 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 3: this and who else. There's nobody else that I know 644 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 3: that can do this like I do. Right, So that 645 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 3: was a huge blessing to have him come out and 646 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 3: everybody took to him and loved him and. 647 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 4: Did an amazing job. He worked his butt off. 648 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 2: He sure did. 649 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, So yeah, the team and Alex and Pair and 650 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 3: everybody in Sweden, that whole team. They were amazing Nicki. 651 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 3: You know all the duets for Nicki and I together 652 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 3: ranging those together, Which that's why it has a magic 653 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 3: when you know the Corey and Leah duets. 654 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 4: That was. 655 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 3: Having written songs and sung together for a decade at 656 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:28,959 Speaker 3: that point and having a band Toget we had. 657 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 4: We were artists together duo, so we had. 658 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 3: A chemistry in our heart and get that transferred right 659 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 3: to Corey and Leah and to other duets in the show. 660 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 3: So there's all these little magic things that happened just 661 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 3: because of who the team was behind the scenes, and 662 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 3: it was very special. 663 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 4: Nicki. 664 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 3: I remember she was giving birth to our second child 665 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 3: and she was so pregnant. I propped her up in 666 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 3: a chair, but I need her to keep singing, So 667 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 3: I popped her legs up above her head and hung 668 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 3: a mic over her face so she could keep singing 669 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 3: because her ankles were so swollen. The show must go on. Yeah, 670 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 3: but we loved it. You remember that, which is that childish. 671 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 3: She was so pregnant. 672 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 2: I was like, what are you doing here? She was 673 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 2: always like smiling, so nice. 674 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 4: And then she did Glee Project Pregnant too. 675 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: Yes, that's right. 676 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 3: It was crazy. 677 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 4: We all worked hard, but we loved it. 678 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 3: You know. It was fun and you get so much joy. 679 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 3: You know, that's the view of musicals, right, If you 680 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 3: just do a show with only dialogue day and night, 681 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 3: there's something you long for, that that break you get 682 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 3: in musical. Okay, it's time to do the music and 683 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 3: then everything unfer a minute. You cut loose and you're 684 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 3: dancing and you're singing, and it's such a great release 685 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 3: for everyone. I found that making the movie. It was like, okay, 686 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 3: we got through the dialogue, let's do a song. 687 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it is. 688 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 3: It gives you. And it's the same working on music 689 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 3: all the time because it's so fun and it's so 690 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 3: life giving. 691 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes you feel in a completely different way. 692 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 4: It really does. 693 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 3: And they were amazing songs, and you guys were amazing 694 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 3: and it was just fun. If everybody sucked and was 695 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 3: difficult and had no talent, I would have quit. 696 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 2: Right, I remember it. There was one time where you 697 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 2: came you're coming in and out. I think it might've 698 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 2: been one of my first sessions with Alex and I 699 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 2: was recording the hair mashup? Is that what it was? 700 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 2: And I wasn't originally supposed to sing it, but like 701 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 2: none of us could do it. We all sounded terrible, 702 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 2: Mark Corey, myself. And then you come in to like 703 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 2: check up and you're like, no, I had to finished 704 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 2: the entire song and you go, do this line like this, 705 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 2: and I do it and you go, that's it. Start over, 706 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 2: and I was like, you've got You've got to be 707 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 2: kidding me. But it was those things that taught me 708 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 2: so much, and then I knew. I'm like, oh god, 709 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 2: now they know I can do it right, and so 710 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 2: now there's like certain things that I we're gonna have 711 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 2: to do. And I absolutely did the rest of the series. 712 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 3: And if you show me something you're good at, oh 713 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 3: it's god. Like Amber with her ad libs, She's like, 714 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 3: please don't make me do Atlism and you're doing the 715 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 3: ad lit. 716 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: Every ad list. 717 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 2: A lot of times Amber and I would pass each 718 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 2: other in the hallways at Challice and she'll have just 719 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 2: come out looking so deflated, defeated, and she's like, I 720 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 2: can't do this. 721 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 3: She's like in a closet, I'm out of the closet, 722 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 3: I'm like begging her to come out. I'm bribing her, 723 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 3: please come out. 724 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 6: The cars outside waiting to take you back to Seth 725 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 6: They're calling, you haven't started singing. You have to come 726 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 6: out of the closet. She's like, go away, Like Amber, please, 727 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 6: what do you want? I'll call him massus food, Like 728 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 6: what do you want? She's like, oh, hey, I'm napping. 729 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 2: She and I would really connect over the music and 730 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 2: we'd lose our minds because she came out. She's like, 731 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 2: I said, angels, we have heard on high into another 732 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 2: song she did back to back, She's like, I'm never 733 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 2: gonna be able to again. I'm like, you're gonna be 734 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 2: fined in two hours. You're going to be. 735 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 3: Really I spent all you guys. I mean, if you 736 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 3: go down the list, there were so many good singers. 737 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 3: Both of you were awesome. I mean Leah is great, 738 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 3: Nia was amazing. I mean Corey was the one probably 739 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 3: had sung the least coming in. 740 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 2: But you got that out of him. 741 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, don't believe it was the first time 742 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 3: he's sung in this dude, like, what are we doing? 743 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,479 Speaker 3: And he couldn't breathe. He almost passed out. He didn't 744 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 3: want to breathe and sing at the same time. He 745 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 3: turned blue and he's like getting dizzy, Like what are 746 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 3: you doing? He's like what, I'm like, you have to breathe, man, 747 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 3: pretty amazing scene where he started, where he ended up, 748 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 3: and Matt Morrison was made. 749 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 4: It was just it was a juggernaut of talent. 750 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 3: It really was. 751 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 2: You also got to work with all of our guest stars. 752 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 2: We had so many insanely like famous and people just 753 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 2: wanted to be on the show. Right, what was your experience, 754 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 2: you know, when you have Gwenn coming in and Chris 755 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 2: and Ricky Martin, all these people. 756 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 3: It was awesome. It was fun. 757 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,280 Speaker 4: John Stamos, who bought my house. 758 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, when he came to. 759 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 3: Look at my house, I heard he was coming. I 760 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 3: put his songs on in the house. These songs were 761 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 3: playing when he looked at the house. Pretty funny. Gwyneth. 762 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:18,720 Speaker 4: I remember working with Gwyneth. 763 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 3: We we became pretty good friends and and but I 764 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 3: always reminded her I was just trying to get to Chris, 765 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 3: you know, I'm really. 766 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,720 Speaker 4: Just using you to get to your husband. 767 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 3: And sure enough, one day I get a phone call, Hey, Adam, 768 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 3: it's Chris Mot Like what he's like, I got tickets 769 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 3: to you for you Hollywood Bow for a show tonight 770 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 3: in the after par what so Gwyneth had set it up. 771 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 772 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 3: Uh So things like that were really special. And Kate 773 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 3: Hudson was awesome. Yeah, they were amazing guest stars. So 774 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 3: those are the things you remember and you kind of 775 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 3: pinch yourself. Oscar winners, you know, and Tony Award winners 776 00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 3: and just just phenomenal people. And they were all there 777 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 3: was fun to work with, you know. It's like the 778 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 3: bigger the star, the more fun they work with. 779 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, they always surprised us all too, because you'd 780 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,879 Speaker 1: be like, oh my god, and like everybody stand up straight, but. 781 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 7: They're like, hey, guys, what's going on. It's really nice. 782 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 1: I just want to know if there's any any songs 783 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: that you worked at well obviously that didn't get approved 784 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,399 Speaker 1: by the artist, like after doing it. 785 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 3: Mm hmm, yeah, well not after doing it. A lot 786 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 3: of songs didn't get approved to begin with. It was 787 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 3: never supposed to be don't stop believing it was supposed 788 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 3: to be Viva LaVita by speaking of Chris Martin, right, 789 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 3: that's right, and we were denied and that's how we 790 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 3: fell into Don't Step Believing, which, by the way, what 791 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 3: a great thing that was, because I don't think the 792 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 3: show it was Don't Stop Believing. Like everybody still thinks 793 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 3: that's a Glee song. You know, I have no idea 794 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 3: Journey existed. That's pretty amazing. You are the original artists, 795 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 3: and I don't know if you knew. 796 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: That's right, Ye, take all the credit. 797 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 3: There were a lot of I don't remember the Food 798 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 3: Fighters debacle with Ryan. Yeah, in kings Lan, we got 799 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 3: denied by rock bands all the time, and Ryan would 800 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 3: get pissed and didn't come out and say like food 801 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 3: fighters hate children or something. 802 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: It was to kings of Lean or something like that, 803 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 1: and that's right. 804 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 3: And then food Fighters came to their defense, and I 805 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 3: was like, never getting any of our songs. And I 806 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 3: was in I was in Ryan's office when that happened, 807 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 3: and he kind of looks at me, and one of 808 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 3: the funniest Ryan moments, He's like, so maybe I should 809 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 3: have said that I probably went too far. I'm like, 810 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 3: he went too far. Oh my gosh, Like we're never 811 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 3: gonna get a rock music. So yeah, not much rock 812 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 3: music made it onto the show thanks to the Kings 813 00:37:59,040 --> 00:37:59,760 Speaker 3: of Leon incident. 814 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 2: We might have a couple songs were not supposed to have, 815 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,919 Speaker 2: like the unreleased version of tell Him, Oh Oh. 816 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 1: We have I Love the Way You Lie. 817 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got probably one hundred songs in my hard 818 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 3: drive that didn't come out. 819 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 2: So how should you have now? Should we you have that? 820 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 2: There have them? 821 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 3: I don't know. If it's so long now don't have 822 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 3: The hard drive will spin up, but they are somewhere. 823 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 2: If you have a couple of minutes one day and 824 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:37,439 Speaker 2: are board after promoting your movie, if the hard drive 825 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 2: still works, you drop a pin and we'll be there. 826 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,720 Speaker 4: That is not like gold playing those songs. 827 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 2: There's this mashup. I got to hear it. I never 828 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 2: got to hear it. 829 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 4: You know what's crazy. 830 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 3: I couldn't tell you which songs came out and which 831 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 3: ones didn't. 832 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 4: Fair It is all a blur. 833 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 3: I'm sure after I can remember there. 834 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 4: Was did you do a song on Gleam like I'm 835 00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 4: sure we did. 836 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 3: I can't tell you. People go this song you did? 837 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 3: I did that song? I don't remember. I mean when 838 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 3: you're doing eight ten songs a week for seven years happening, 839 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 3: and it's remarkable how many things we did, so I 840 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:13,800 Speaker 3: don't even know. You guys have to tell me. You 841 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 3: have to come over and go. We did not want 842 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 3: came out that one. Didn't that Kevin, I have no clue. 843 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 3: There's an episode of your podcast exactly. 844 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 1: All the fans are dying. 845 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:31,800 Speaker 2: They're like, there's a billion lawsuits. Yes everyone, right before 846 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 2: we go? Is there a song that we didn't do 847 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 2: that you wish we could have done? 848 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 4: He's like, you know, parent aways want to do. 849 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 3: The show must go on in the last episode. 850 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:45,840 Speaker 4: I thought that would have been awesome. 851 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 852 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 3: One, we're big queen fans, so yeah, that would have 853 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 3: been fun. And then we should have done more Rabba. 854 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 3: I just got to say, we didn't do enough Abba. 855 00:39:58,239 --> 00:39:59,919 Speaker 2: I can never do enough Abba. 856 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,359 Speaker 3: Winner Takes It All would have been amazing to do. Yeah, 857 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 3: so I'm a little bitter about that. But okay, none 858 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,319 Speaker 3: of Swedish. We did a lot of Swedish music, a 859 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,840 Speaker 3: lot of pop songs, right, a lot of them. So 860 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 3: that's but look, we did almost everything. There wasn't much 861 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,359 Speaker 3: that was left untouched. We did West Side Story, which 862 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,279 Speaker 3: is my favorite. We didn't do any sound of music, 863 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 3: which is you know, a sound of music that would 864 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 3: have been fun. But I'm pretty pretty uh fulfilled with 865 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 3: the catalog we have from Glee. 866 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 1: I think i'd say audio work. 867 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 3: Did I say my career ended there? It would have 868 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,880 Speaker 3: been like, Wow, that was cool. Okay, now cleaning pools 869 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:46,320 Speaker 3: for a living or whatever. But yeah, it was pretty remarkable, 870 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,439 Speaker 3: that whole that whole thing. 871 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 1: Okay, Before we let you go, we asked one question 872 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 1: to the people who are involved with Glee. What is 873 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 1: the feeling like Lee left you with? 874 00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 3: Gratitude? 875 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 4: I think a lot gratitude and some sadness. 876 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 3: I think, you know, I miss some people obviously, so 877 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:11,799 Speaker 3: I miss Corey and and Naya of course, but a 878 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 3: lot of gratitude. It's just I think back and it 879 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 3: just I smile, you know, I really do. It was 880 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 3: a special time, what an amazingly rewarding experience with amazing people. 881 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 3: And I'm so fortunate that I knew when I was 882 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 3: doing it. Yeah, that's key, and I feel really grateful 883 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 3: for that. 884 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 4: As hard as it was, that sustained us. And yeah, 885 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 4: just grateful. 886 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,879 Speaker 3: That's the where that comes to mind, and really fun 887 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 3: to catch up with you guys again. We have to 888 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 3: actually come on, we have to see what are we doing. 889 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's here, let's do that. 890 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 1: Congrats everybody, go see Adam's movie and November tenth, and 891 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 1: thank you for like just coming back. It's just so 892 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 1: nice to see you. 893 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 2: And nice to congrats on Journey about the him, Like 894 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 2: what a crazy you did after seventeen yours like this, 895 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:02,760 Speaker 2: absolutely incredible. 896 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,800 Speaker 3: I may never work again, but I did it. 897 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 2: I mean you did it. You've done a lot. You've 898 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:07,799 Speaker 2: done a lot. 899 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I may not want to work again. 900 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 2: You need to just take a nap. Sit down, take 901 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 2: a nap. You've heard it. Thank you for spending so 902 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 2: much time with us today and that. Yeah, let's hang 903 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 2: out and we can talk forever. 904 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,799 Speaker 3: So how about we do it. We'll spend a whole 905 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:22,320 Speaker 3: day together. 906 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 2: Great, say hi to the fan for us. 907 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 1: I will thank you. Okay. I hope you guys really 908 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 1: enjoyed Adam as much as we did, because that was awesome. 909 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,720 Speaker 1: Thank you Adam for joining us for so much time. 910 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,400 Speaker 1: Congratulations on your movie. Go see it, you guys, Journey 911 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 1: to Bethlehem. It's a musical movie. This is a key audience. 912 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is. 913 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 1: Wow. 914 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 2: We learned so much. I'm sorry in shock, I just 915 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 2: didn't Yeah, the music department, that whole world was literally 916 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 2: a different world from our every day of spending like 917 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 2: sixteen hours fifteen hours on set m HM, and the 918 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:07,320 Speaker 2: whole thing. They had to do the entirety for seven years. Also, 919 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,719 Speaker 2: you know, producing eight hundred and was seventeen songs, but 920 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,880 Speaker 2: only seven hundred and something came out, and so he 921 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 2: still did over eight hundred numbers, damn. And that's just 922 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,719 Speaker 2: you also don't even the amount of time and care 923 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 2: it took to do these things. Like when we wish 924 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 2: up to record, they would even come in and figure 925 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,799 Speaker 2: out which mike was best for our voice on that 926 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 2: style of song. So all these little things added up 927 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,919 Speaker 2: to so much time and care and six seasons, seven 928 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,320 Speaker 2: years that never let up. And so it was really 929 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,799 Speaker 2: a feat. And I don't think anyone's ever going to 930 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 2: be able to match what they did, just the amount 931 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 2: of work that they did ever. Yep, thank you Adam again. 932 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 2: It's so special to get to catch up and sharing 933 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,879 Speaker 2: it with all of you who are listening. We'll see 934 00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:58,479 Speaker 2: you next week. 935 00:43:58,680 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 1: That's why you're really missed. 936 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening and follow us on Instagram at and 937 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 2: that's what you really miss pod make sure to write 938 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,880 Speaker 2: us a review and leave us five stars. See you 939 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:08,319 Speaker 2: next time.