WEBVTT - Camp Buzz: Bijan Signs, QB Tiers and the All-Underpaid Team 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:08.080 Welcome to NFL Daily, where we love a dislocated thumb. 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:11.479 I'm Greg Rosenthal here in the Chris Westling podcast studio. 0:00:12.200 --> 0:00:15.640 It's a camp Buzz Tuesday with my friend Nick Shook, 0:00:15.680 --> 0:00:19.120 the offensive lineman. Did you mangle your your fingers up 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:21.480 like a lot of the linemen like Baldy style? 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:22.760 I aren't too bad. 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:25.120 I got a little bit of of oh bend here, 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:26.040 but nothing terrible. 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:28.159 I'm double jointed with the thumb, so it looks a 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:30.000 little it looks a little funny. I can also bend 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:34.800 my fingers all the way back, so that's completely except okay, no, 0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:37.479 I went I can touch the back I mean, which. 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:38.199 Is it's not good for you. 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:41.280 It's a big it's a big thumb day around the 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:44.120 NFL because, yeah, A J. Brown dislocated his thumb and 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:46.839 Mike Rable made fun of it a little bit at 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:48.680 the podium. 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:51.479 Guy, I think he's gonna be okay. I think I 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:52.640 think he's going to be okay. 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:54.880 Now I tell him the lineman do that every other snap, 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:58.920 and you know, it's not a national story when Alignment 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:00.680 pops his finger in place. 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:02.360 But we had a little bit of fun. 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:04.800 I love seeing Rabel there at the podium has kind 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:06.920 of been under the radar, by the way, just Mike 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:09.400 Rabel beat a normal coach again, got a lot of 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:12.039 grief for using the dog as a shield on his 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:14.400 first training camp press conference. I don't know if you 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:17.600 remember that shook, But when you consider the off season 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:22.240 that Mike Rabel has had, the noise has quieted down, 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:25.679 and yes, AJ Brown didn't miss any practice time and 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:28.520 he's out there going one on one with Christian Gonzales 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:31.279 day after day, which Rabel says has been a highlight 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:33.240 of camp, just seeing kind of these two greats going 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:35.400 at each other. In the last few days, he's been 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:38.400 beating Gonzales down the field. I don't know if I 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:40.440 have a question or a bigger thought on this. I 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:42.480 just thought I would start with thumbs because I saw 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:45.680 our friend Gerald McCoy was on Get Up Now, our 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:49.080 NFL network brethren are now regularly on ESPN, and he 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:53.560 showed some pretty disgusting digits were bangled. 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:56.880 Look, that's part of the wear and tear that comes 0:01:56.880 --> 0:01:58.560 with playing in the trenches in the NFL. 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:03.240 But I'm all about digits. I'm all about keeping people healthy. 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:05.720 I'm all about you know, minor injuries at best, because 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:07.400 we're in training camp when worst things happen. 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:08.440 You know what else of them all about? 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:09.560 Greg, Yes, I don't know. 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:11.960 If you're into the aesthetic of the game as much 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:12.440 as I am. 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:17.040 But yesterday the new sideline gear was released, new caps, 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:19.600 which means one thing for me, it's time for me 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:21.240 to get a new rob Low hat. 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:24.519 This wow, is that that's not part of the new 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:25.520 sideline gear. 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:28.280 This is last year's sideline. Yeah, you're the old NFL hat. 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:32.679 Okay, So yeah, this is a real advertisement to join 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:35.679 us on YouTube. We're there every day. Obviously we love 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:38.440 you listening to the podcast. But you can see Nick 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:41.520 Schuok there, I will check out that Sideline gear. We're 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:43.880 way off track to start the show. It's a Camp 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:46.560 Buzz episode, which means we're hitting the news as quickly 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:49.040 as we can. We're getting you out of here before 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:52.440 our division preview, which will go up on Wednesday. We 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:56.600 got some big contracts signed, but John Robinson is now 0:02:57.280 --> 0:03:00.240 locked up long term. I decided because I don't think 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:03.440 he's making enough money to make a very impromptu all 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:06.240 underpaid team that would just fly through. And then some 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:10.600 other bits and Bobs in terms of injuries around the NFL, 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:13.760 and also the QB tiers with that Mike Sando puts 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:16.080 out every year. We'll have some takes on that at 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:18.639 the end of the show, but let's start with John Robinson. 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:22.080 Fifty one million dollars guaranteed on a three year deal. 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:26.679 It's an extension up to seventy five million dollars. When 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:29.760 I heard that Bajhon Robinson and Jamior Gibbs might be 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:34.480 resetting the market, I was then disappointed by the amount 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:37.840 of this contract. That's why I'm doing an all underpaid team. 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:40.280 I know he's making more than every other running back 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:42.080 in the league, it's by like a million or two 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:45.760 over Saquon per year, but man running backs are still underpaid. 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:51.200 If Jon Robinson can't get more guaranteed money than the 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:54.080 guard that they signed earlier this week, I mean, what 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:56.800 are we talking about, Nick Schuck, Well. 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:59.080 I mean, it's it's indicative of the fact that despite 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:02.320 the the re emergence of the importance of the running 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:05.119 back position, running backs are still not paid as well 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:06.880 as we would like them to be, even when you're 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:09.800 a player of John Robinson's caliber, and it's because of 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:12.360 the shelf life as we all know, and I totally agree. 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:14.680 In fact, if anybody's gonna be upset about it, it's 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:17.360 probably the other running back that's was doing the hold 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:19.240 in this week, which is Jamiir Gibbs. Because these were 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:21.719 always going to be tandem deals. He's yet to sign 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:24.320 with the Lions. He's probably not gonna get as much 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:26.240 money as he thought he would either. If you do 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:30.279 the fifty one million guaranteed over three years, right, it's 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:32.920 what seventeen a year average guarantee per year. That's still 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:36.000 a million behind Saquan's average guarantee per year. 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:37.320 And I have to blame. 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:39.520 Saquan a little bit because after he got paid, he 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:41.120 wasn't as good as he was the year before, which, 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:43.000 of course is very ever to have a two thousand 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:43.680 yard season. 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:46.520 It's just not fair, man, come on pay the running backs. 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:49.760 I was referred to Matthew bergeron Look. It's a one 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:53.640 to one comparison because it's the same team. Matthew bergeron 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:57.680 a upper middle class guard. Shall we say, it's been 0:04:57.760 --> 0:05:01.720 like okay in his NFL career, got sixty million dollars 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:05.160 guaranteed from this same Falcons team on a four year 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:08.200 ninety six million dollar extension. I understand the guard market 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:12.640 is different than the offensive line market, but I just 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:15.920 remember Raheem Morris and a lot of other people pointing 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:18.080 out last year, this is the best player in the NFL. 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:20.960 This is not Saquon Barkley at the age that Saquon 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:25.280 Barkley was at Kyle freaking pittscot like three years fifty 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:27.719 four million. It's not that much different. It's less, but 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:30.520 it's not that much different than Bajon Robinson. It doesn't 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:32.160 make any sense to me, And you're absolutely right. I'm 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:34.640 glad you made that point about Gibbs because usually you 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:36.760 want to be the second guy to sign the deal. 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:40.080 But in this case, I wonder if him and his 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:43.640 agents saw this and thought, really, bro because everyone thinks 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:45.479 you're a little bit better than me. Let's listen to 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:48.920 Dan Campbell, who might have been happy about this Baijon 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:51.839 Robinson deal coming down. This is him speaking on Tuesday. 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:54.160 I think it's certainly not going to hurt. I mean, 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:58.640 it's not gonna hurt, but we'll see, you know, we'll see. 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:02.360 I'm look, I'm just to get Gibbs back out there. 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:05.760 Every day that goes by. You know, that's that's another 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:08.479 day that you feel like you miss with him and 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:11.000 getting them out there with the guys and and him 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:15.000 being doing his part. So but there again, man, It'll 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:16.039 get done when it gets done. 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:20.360 Jamir Gibbs talked to the media briefly after practice on Monday. 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:22.479 He was out watching practice for the first time that 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:25.520 they had seen him, and he said he wasn't holding 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:27.800 out because of contract related and then they asked him, well, 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:29.160 what are you holding out? 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:30.760 He's like, I don't you know, I don't know. 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:34.680 He said, he said, what I'm aiming toward? Uh, I 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:35.040 don't know. 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:38.240 This is the same running back who when I went 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:39.840 to the Pro Bowl and I tried to ask him 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:41.880 about like a new offense, you know, moving on from 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:43.680 last year's offensive coordinator to Detroit. I was like, how's 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:45.120 it gonna look? And he goes, I don't know, we 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:49.200 haven't been there yet. Yeah, okay, simple, Yeah. 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:51.719 You're not gonna get it much out of him. I'm disappointed. 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:54.920 And yet it's tough because fans would get on bajon 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:58.480 the If ever someone was going to reset a market, 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:00.359 it was going to be him, really whole holding the 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:03.240 Falcons feet to the fire, like you just will never 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:09.359 convince me that he is worth like eight million dollars 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:12.920 less per year than Chris o'lave, Like, what are we doing? 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:15.960 What are we doing here? Everyone recognizes he's a better player. 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:20.000 It's this is the power. This is why Arthur Blank 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:22.920 made Matt Ryan president of football. It's the ability to 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:25.480 schmooze his players into taken contracts. 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:25.920 Now so friendly. 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:27.960 They just they just took advantage of a guy who 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:29.800 did have more years left on his contract with a 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:31.720 fifth year option and all that. So he is getting 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:34.840 the deal early. That's worth pointing out. But this, this 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:37.800 contract's going to age well. We'll get to other contracts 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:40.200 that have aged well in a minute. It's a Flowers 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:43.800 contract that came down on Tuesday morning, four years up 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:47.040 to one hundred and forty million. They're not even saying 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:50.520 the up to in the original announcements from these insiders. 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:53.200 I'm watching you insiders. You gotta at least say the 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:55.320 up to. It's just straight up lying. At some point 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:57.840 they say one hundred and eight million dollars. I'm not 0:07:57.880 --> 0:08:01.880 sure if that's guaranteed or in guaranteed a player that 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:07.040 I've struggled with because he's so different than most wide 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:10.240 receivers and yet he's always freaking open. And this team 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:12.960 would stink if they didn't have Zay Flower. So very 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:15.040 important to them. And as you look at the lists 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:19.000 of long term wide receivers, he deserves to be on it. 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:20.520 And so if you're the next one up, you're going 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:23.080 to get paid pretty well. I think he's somewhere in 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:27.320 that top twenty five receivers in the league. Not sure 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:30.640 how high you would have him, Nick, I would. 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:32.840 Put him in there as well, both because of production 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:35.079 and importance to this offense. This guy who's had a 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:37.800 thousand yards receiving twelve hundred last year. In each of 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:39.880 his last two years, he's got nine total touchdowns between 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:42.520 the last two years. He's key part of this passing game. 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:43.920 He was a key part of the passing game under 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:46.480 Todd Mounkin. I'm curious to see how his role might 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:49.400 evolve with a new offensive coordinator now in town and 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:51.360 Todd Munkin being the coach of the Browns. But I 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:53.680 think he's proven that he's worth this type of money 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:56.880 to this team where they don't have you know, they 0:08:56.920 --> 0:08:58.840 haven't spent a lot of money on a receiver, which 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:01.720 is unlike most of the other teams in the NFL. 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:04.400 But it is interesting with these contracts because we have. 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:06.280 The up to one forty on the extension and we 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:08.320 have the one hundred and eight million guaranteed. So if 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:10.840 you start sorting guys by average guarantee per year, he 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:13.160 lands in the top three. He's actually had a justin 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:15.600 Jefferson in terms of average guarantee per year because mental 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:17.920 math tells me that's what twenty seventy year fifty four 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:19.600 twenty seven times four is one o eight. 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:22.040 I believe something like that. 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:24.800 Yeah, Yeah, and so that would put him, you know, 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:28.720 just behind George Pickens on the franchise tag. So's that's 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:31.120 good money. We'll see if it ends up being the 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:33.480 four year, one forty up to one forty that we 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:35.240 see right now. But it's something that he deserves and 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:37.199 it's a key part of the Ravens as they take 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:39.160 this next step into their new era with Jesse Mitcher 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:39.680 as their coach. 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:40.000 Yeah. 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:42.760 When we when we put him on our all thirty 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:46.240 two you know rankings, he ended up in the twenties 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:48.360 with with me and Nate Tice when we did our 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:53.480 wide receiver rankings. He and Lamar Jackson have a pretty 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:56.680 special connection. And now I think just the way that 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:59.080 they understand each other and where they're going to be, 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:00.000 it looks unpredictable. 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:00.240 Z A. 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:02.280 Flowers has a little bit of Antonio Brown to him, 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:05.120 where it's like I'll run the route that just gets 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:07.320 me open and you figure it out. And Lamar and 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:10.320 him are great at putting that together. So Lamar is 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:13.719 on my underpaid team. I just decided let's go through 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:18.079 the veteran contracts. Obviously the best rookies. The guys who 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:21.920 are on rookie contracts still like a Puka Nakua, are 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:24.480 the most underpaid players in the NFL because they just 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:27.160 haven't gotten that veteran contract. I wanted this to be 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:31.719 limited to veterans who are the most underpaid. Lamar is 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:35.080 my quarterback fifty two million dollars a year, which sounds 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:38.120 pretty great, but it's still, you know, over ten under 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:42.400 the top guys and less than Brock Purty, Jared Goff, 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:45.959 Trevor Lawrence does act as his own agent, but it's 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:47.800 more about that he's like the next up and he's 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:51.600 going into a contract year. Lamar Jackson my pretty clear 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:54.040 all underpaid quarterback at running back. It's a guy who 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:58.199 signed pretty recently, James Cook only at eleven million dollars 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:01.920 per year. Like, what kind of shocking that James Cook 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:05.440 is making half as much as the top running backs 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:07.959 in this market and he's probably not gonna get his 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:11.320 next deal this this These numbers are from the over 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:14.079 the Cap website, so thank you to them. What do 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:16.400 you what do you think like Lamar is gonna get 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:18.920 with the Ravens. Do you think he will be the 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:20.720 highest paid quarterback in the league. Do you think it'll 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:22.600 happen before this year? Like, how do you think this 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:24.600 all plays out? It's pretty crazy to have a player 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:26.640 this good going into his contract year. 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:29.679 Yeah, I think that he'll probably get past Dak Prescott. 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:31.640 I don't know if he'll get past sixty four million 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:33.360 per year with Patrick Mahomes because of the way that 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:35.600 they've structured that and then allows him to kind of 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:38.200 get in that range. But I mean, it's the perfect 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:40.440 time it's going to happen, because it has to happen 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:42.840 before next year. His cap number next year is eighty 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:45.000 four point three million dollars. You have to stretch that 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:47.320 out over the future. So he's gonna get a raise, 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:50.560 it's gonna climb the charts, and it should. But because 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:53.240 of where the quarterbacks rankings, you know, get deep into 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:56.640 the numbers, the nerd category, the financial nerd category of 0:11:56.640 --> 0:12:02.080 this podcast. Beneath maybe you have to do attatch between 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:05.280 beneath Patrick Mahomes and Dak Prescott. You have four quarterbacks, 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:08.800 five quarterbacks. Yeah, counting, it's hard to count a spreadsheet 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:11.240 for me, but fifty five million dollars per year for 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:14.920 Matthew Stafford, Jordan Loved, Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawrence, and Josh Allen. 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:16.680 I think Lamar will pass all of them. 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:20.520 Get in that Dak and Patrick Mahomes range because it 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:22.400 has to happen. But and I agree, I think that 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:25.040 he is relatively underpaid. James Cook, I think is the 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:27.000 better point of the two, as crazy as it sounds, 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:29.120 because the guy you led the NFL in rushing last 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:31.600 year sixteen twenty one yards on thousand, six hundred twenty 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:34.439 one yards, twelve touchdowns, he's been the engine. We give 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:36.200 all the credit in the world to Josh Allen, as 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:38.839 we should, but he has been the real counterbalance to 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:39.400 Josh Allen. 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:40.560 The real engine of the offense. 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:42.800 His success has allowed Josh Allen to be that much 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:45.240 better as a quarterback. And yet the way that they 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:47.719 handled this contract, there was a period there where it 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:50.240 felt like the Bills just weren't interested in paying him, 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:52.080 and then they he ended up, you know, kind of 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:54.280 forcing their hand, but they kind of went out. But 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:56.480 with this deal, I mean, there's a number of running 0:12:56.480 --> 0:12:58.200 backs that are well ahead of him in apy, some 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:01.040 guys who signed recently, some guys you didn't sign recently, 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:03.960 you've got immediately in front of him, or Josh Jacobs, Travstn, 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:08.400 Alvin Kamara, Jeremiah Love on a rookie contract, Jonathan Taylor, 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:10.400 Like he should be making more money than some of 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:13.200 these guys, Kenneth Walker, who just signed this year, and 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:16.280 yet he's you know, he's under contract through twenty twenty 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:18.520 nine now, So that's elaborated it be. 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:21.719 Yeah, I guess so. And I don't want to root 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:24.480 for management in these cases. No, And someone pointed out, well, 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:27.480 but John Robinson has the highest guaranteed of the running backs. 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:29.960 I'm like, no, he doesn't, because a rookie Jeremiah Love 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:32.920 actually had more guaranteed money than him, which is just 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:36.120 if nothing else, Bijon should have just held their feet 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:38.160 to the fire extended this thing a few more weeks, 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:39.760 but he wanted to get back with his team. The 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:43.160 rest of my all underpaid team Mike Evans, but that 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:45.280 was partly by choice. He took less money to go 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:48.720 to San Francisco, but he is less making less money 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:52.320 per year than Josh Palmer, which is crazy. Nico Collins 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:56.800 somehow just signed a raise a deal, and yet because 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:59.160 they got him at such a discount early rate, he 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:01.720 still is underpaid. To me at tight end, I couldn't 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:03.800 really find a great tight end Chicko Conqua, I thought, 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:07.240 actually will wind up being underpaid to the rookie. The 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:09.920 guys on the rookie contract, Brock Powers and Colston Lovelin 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:13.120 were my choice there. The offensive line, Andrew Thomas got 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:15.920 a ton of guaranteed money, but he is an elite 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:19.000 left tackle that is only making twenty three million dollars 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:21.800 per year and they hold his rights for another like 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:24.760 four or five years. That is going to age extremely 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.880 well for the Giants, so he's never gonna leave there. 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:31.120 At defensive tackle, it's Videvea who's looking for a trade. 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:34.320 Cam Hayward is still at at a good price. I 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:36.400 know he's old, but he's still playing at a very 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:40.480 high level. And then his teammate is my choice at edge, 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:44.200 Alex Heismith only making seventeen million dollars a year, only 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:47.800 got twenty seven million dollars guaranteed. He is due a 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:51.800 new contract. At linebacker, I liked Fred Warner still, yeah, 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:53.920 I know that contract's fairly recent, but he's just so 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:57.680 good that kind of similar to Bajhon Robinson. Wow, he's 0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:00.560 only making twenty one million dollars a year, Like that's 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:03.080 like David Edwards money, like the guard for the Saints. 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:07.160 Like it's just it's impressive. And then Jalen Petree is 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:11.320 my defensive back at thirteen million dollars a year. He's 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:14.520 kind of transitioned into a nickelback. He was a safety. 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:16.680 But man, that is that is a bargain. So those 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:19.640 are that's my all underpaid team. I don't know if 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:22.120 anyone stands out or anyone else you wanted to put 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:22.520 on there. 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:25.960 I have an issue with classification when it comes to 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:28.440 some of these guys who are listed as linebackers but 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:30.920 they're living more in an edge roll Nick Herbig is 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:32.520 one of those guys, because when you're trying to compare 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:35.240 Alex Highsmith's contract, you have to factor in Herbig, and 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:37.320 then you have to consider the Steelers overall cap situation. 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:39.440 They obviously have a ton of money dedicated to JJAT 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:41.400 or tj WAT excuse me, at forty one million dollars 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:43.080 per year. And then you go down the list and 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:46.600 it's like, if you combine edge and linebacker salaries, you 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:48.480 got to go pretty far down to find high Smith 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:50.600 at seventeen per year. You get Herbig at twenty five 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:53.560 per year. They're kind of operating, I mean, within the 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:55.680 same financial poll, but it's also the same positional pool 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:57.280 for the most part. But then again, you look at 0:15:57.280 --> 0:16:00.480 the Steeler's cap space three million dollars as of right now, 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:03.680 four point nine projected next year according to over the 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:06.760 cap It balloons in twenty twenty eight. But it explains 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:10.359 why high Smith is far down on that list. 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:11.640 And he might get traded. I think this is going 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:14.400 to be his last year on the team. So that's 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:17.560 our quick all underpaid team. And yeah, but John Robinson 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:20.640 might immediately go on it because he's that good. Some 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:24.840 notes in terms of injuries around the NFL. On this Tuesday, 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:30.560 the Jets rookie tight end Kenyan Sidiq is out. Sounds 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:33.840 like it's gonna be a little while. Aaron Glenn sounded 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:36.240 optimistic that his rookie tight end could be back for 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:38.760 Week one, but he's already been out for three days 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:42.160 and what I hate to hear is that it's a 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:46.400 recurrence of this growing hernia issue that he's struggled with 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:50.080 a little bit coming into the draft out of Oregon. 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:52.600 So there's been a lot of positivity about the Jets 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:55.600 offense at training camp so far, some Jets fans wondering 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:58.080 is that a bad sign about their defense? 0:16:58.120 --> 0:16:58.560 Either way. 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:01.320 Kenyan Sidik who is going to be a real weapon 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:05.080 next to Mason Taylor, that is one to watch. I'd 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:07.480 be really disappointed if we don't get like full city 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:10.119 to start this season because I'm in on that Jets 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:12.440 Titans Week one game. It's it looks ugly, but I 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:14.000 want to see what it looks like. 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:16.680 I just want to see what you and yet Bob 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:18.920 solid revenge opportunity there Titans too. 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:20.240 That makes it even juicier. 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:24.520 I always worry about core muscle injuries now the groin 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:26.399 herney is a little bit different than your traditional core 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:28.280 muscle injury. But like I think about when I think 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:30.760 it was Odell's first year in Cleveland, where nobody really 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:32.520 knew that he was dealing with a core muscle injury 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:34.640 for most of the year. But talking to him, talking 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:36.320 to Jarvis Landry, who was dealing with a hip injury 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:40.040 that entire season, you understood by the end of it 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:41.560 why they were limited in the way that they were. 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:43.040 And I would hate for a guy like Sadik, who 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:44.919 is an athletic freak. That is his greatest strength is 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:46.879 his athleticism. He still kind of needs to work on 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:49.000 hands consistency. I would hate for him to have to 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:50.480 deal with that in his first year in the NFL. 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:53.080 When the level is raised, your athleticism is more important 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:55.760 than ever. If you're limited by something like that lowers 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:57.800 your ceiling. I would hate that because I'm excited. That's 0:17:57.800 --> 0:17:59.679 one of the twelve personnel groups that I'm most excited 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:00.360 to watch this year. 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:03.159 Yeah, there are so many times where I can remember 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:06.400 a second year player and the off season storyline is, well, 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:08.240