WEBVTT - Talkin’ Cowboys: No Clowning Around 0:00:02.120 --> 0:00:02.640 The following. 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:04.680 He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 0:00:04.720 --> 0:00:06.439 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:08.520 --> 0:00:11.399 Cowboys. 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:15.840 This He's Talking Cowboys Spring live. 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:19.040 From the Dallas Cowboys World Tours at the Star in Frisco, 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:29.520 dot Tis any point touchdown and now your hosts Isaiah Standback, 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:40.760 Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez, and Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:45.839 It's a wonderful Wednesday edition of Talking Cowboys, presented by 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:48.880 Black Rifle Coffee Company, live from the Star in Frisco, 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:52.960 Texas and the s WBC studios. Welcome in, everybody. We've 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:54.920 got the whole cast and crew ready for you to rock. 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:59.560 Patrick No, C Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah Standback, I'm Kyle 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:01.440 Yeoman's Chris Beam in the back. 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:04.520 Chris Beam. Do you have the sounder? 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:06.520 I don't. 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:07.920 It's okay, that's fine, it's fine. 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:08.400 I have one. 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:15.280 What's the sounder that sounds like breaking news? Go ahead, 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:19.200 it's rare. We rarely have breaking news off the top 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:20.720 of the show in. 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:21.440 The middle of the morning. 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:23.560 We are developed nine AM podcast developing. 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:25.720 It is developed development, breaking developing. 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:28.880 Thank you for this is it though, I mean it's 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:30.920 breaking comes to paper. 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:34.080 What I'm about to say, is breaking developing. 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:36.480 Development afterwards, it's breaking, but it's. 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:39.840 Breaking right now that there's a lot of things in 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:41.440 development developing. 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:45.479 Jadavi Clowney is in the building. That is the breaking news. 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:46.320 I like him. 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:48.480 He is here. He is on a visit with the 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:49.600 Dallas Cowboys. 0:01:50.360 --> 0:01:51.520 He just having breakfast her. 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:53.920 No, he's having a workout. 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:55.880 I thought it was no C. Honestly when I saw 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:57.640 him originally, I was like, that looks like no C. 0:01:57.840 --> 0:01:58.000 Right. 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:02.360 He just hit the gym and grew You're a liar, 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:06.000 but I love you. No, it's definitely been confirmed that 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:10.639 Jadeveon Clunty is in the building. Yeah, so we'll see 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:13.400 how that goes. He's here for a tryout slash workout 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:15.960 with the Dallas Cowboys from a first round pick. Everyone 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:18.720 knows Javeon Clowney very well. If you are even a 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:22.520 remotely casual NFL fan, you know of Jadeveon Clowney and 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:26.880 his contributions to his respective teams over the years. Free 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:30.359 agent right now Cowboys obviously goes without saying they move 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:34.120 on from Michael Parsons, get Kenny Clark in the building, 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:38.359 but they want to see apparently a veteran a mercenary, 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:40.760 if you will, if you will, if you will, a 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:44.960 mercenary come in and help their young budding pass rush. 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:48.120 So we will see if they can come to terms 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:51.680 on a deal with Jadeveon Clowney. Right now, it's just 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:54.680 a conversation and the workout and we'll see, we'll see. 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:57.400 I mean, he's he's still got some tread left on 0:02:57.440 --> 0:02:59.720 those tires. I mean, he averaged I think five and 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:02.679 a half, if almost six sacks between the last two. 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:04.519 Actually between the last two he had five and a 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:06.480 half a year prior. He had nine and a half 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:09.560 the year prior. Oh better still yeah better, nine. 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:12.080 And a half of Baltimore in seventeen games and four 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:15.280 times and a half fourteen stone the Panthers. Yeah, so 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:17.160 he still got some trail left on the tires, to 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:20.080 say the least. And I mean, obviously I'm with it 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:23.840 goes without saying. The reason I say developing is because again, 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:27.480 if you know Jadavion Clowney, then you know that you 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:30.400 have to pay today Yon Clowney. If you know the 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:34.600 Dallas Cowboys, you know that typically that becomes a part 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:35.480 of the talking. 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:38.000 Points, right, So that's what I mean. It's it's definitely 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:40.920 promising optimistic. I love the fact that in the Shattenhamany 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:43.320 era they're going out and they're trying to resolve some 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:48.440 things ahead of time. Last four seasons, twenty six sacks. 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:51.360 Is that good? That's pretty good. 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:53.040 Guy that's thirty two years old. 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:56.240 Yeah, I would take five and a half sacks. Ye, 0:03:57.200 --> 0:03:57.720 sign me up. 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:01.320 If you get just take six on a one year deal. 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:03.520 Sure you know, yeah, you give me four and a 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:04.720 half sacks. I'll be fine. 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:07.800 Give them three million dollars one year deal for six secs. 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:08.200 There you go. 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:11.280 I don't know if you'll get six acts? Getting which one? 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:14.640 Which one get free? Goes back to what I was saying. 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:15.840 This is why we said developed. 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:16.440 I think it's more like. 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:19.040 I think it's more that's a fun game. I think 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:21.800 it's more likely that you would get him for three than. 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:22.800 He would get six sacts. 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:26.200 He's it's weak in the middle of the week for 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:28.360 two of the NFL season. 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:28.839 What do you think? 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:32.040 And he's still sitting in our building having breakfast at 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:32.799 the training table. 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:33.960 He's not a hype. 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:37.760 Nothing for a veteran at thirty, nothing for a veteran. 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:40.800 It means, especially when their named David, we just talked 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:42.800 about yesterday you want to make you want to make 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:45.920 a show. Bet, We just talked about veterans that are 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:49.240 available for that. Are that are mercenaries? Okay, guys that 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:51.800 are available sitting at the crib, higher gun, higher higher 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:56.120 hit man guys. Those guys typically aren't on rosters week one. 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:59.640 Why they want to feel it out and and the rule. 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:02.719 For a week two exactly, veteran veteran football players, if 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:05.039 you're on your roster week one, your whole season is 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:07.880 guaranteed in terms of your contract. That's why some of 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:10.640 these guys, guys like him are sitting at the crib 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:12.480 up until week two. 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:15.719 So what would you think it would cost snag a guy. 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:18.200 Like I think probably you got pay him probably five five? 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:21.000 How about we how about we split the difference four 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:25.440 and under, four and under five, four and above. You 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:28.920 and I make a show bet right now? Hey, okay, 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:30.200 four and under is my. 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:32.160 Side, four and above is yours? 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:38.960 Hot sauce, hot five sentims. What is that? Oh no, no, 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:40.680 we're talking base. 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:41.960 What goes to the salary cap? 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:43.560 Base, not escalators? 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:47.400 Three and a half base you're right there, Well. 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:48.320 No, it's not the same thing. 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:51.720 I'm talking about the potential Cowboys if they're able to 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:54.240 put his deal off. If they if they are able 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:56.000 to come to agreement, he shows up, he's able to 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:57.880 have a good workout, they say, you know what, yay, 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:00.360 let's move forward. There is going to be in you're 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:02.080 dealing with the Dallas Cowboys, right, You're dealing with the 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:05.320 Dallas Cowboys signing a veteran who's was a mercenary. Okay, 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:07.200 it's going to be incentive heavy. 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:08.640 Yeah. 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:11.160 Performance, yea performance. So that being said, I'll stick with 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:13.760 my three as the base and I'm still right there 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:16.800 at one point two five incentives, so full point two 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:17.240 five max. 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:19.880 And if our incentives, I hope he makes them. And 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:24.159 you're only making a position that already has like decent depth, 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:28.080 arguably better, which is something that we haven't done in 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:28.479 a while. 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:30.719 Not decent depth with pass rushers. 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:33.880 That's fair, that is, I think your ends have a 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:36.159 decent depth. But like you said, for that specific role 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:39.480 that he brings, correct, you don't have that player right now. Correct. 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:42.240 But one thing, so, what do you know about Jadavian Clowney? 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:44.120 Will you know that he's a he's a large human 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:45.720 being who's well respected. 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:47.000 He's not what he used to be. 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:48.120 So he looks like myself. 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:51.040 He's so he's he's tall, he was in great shape. Yeah, 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:54.240 he's tall, he's lanky, he's a big body. But he's violent. 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:55.840 And I don't care what year you want to I 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:57.840 don't care what year you want to go point to, 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:00.560 is he's violent at the point of it attack. He 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:03.640 is going to pursue the quarterback with reckless abandonment. So 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:06.359 like in terms of the energy and the culture that 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:08.560 you're trying to create on this defensive front, he goes 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:12.239 along with what you have out and and he adds 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:13.400 a pass rush element. 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:13.800 Right. 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:18.000 I think you have Marshaw Kneeland, who's really your He's 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:20.200 a he's a two gap kind of guy, right, He's 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:21.800 gonna push the pocket type of dude. 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:23.400 He's not really a true pass rusher. 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:26.440 You have Dante Fowler who's here to rush the passer, right, 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:28.280 coming off his twelve and a half sacks from last year. 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:30.880 Donovan Azeraka, you draft him to be your pass rusher, 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:32.920 but we saw how light he was last week and 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:34.920 kind of got thrown around a little bit. It's gonna 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:36.600 take some time, right, So it's not to say he's 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:38.160 not going to be have an impact, but it's gonna 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:38.560 take him. 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:39.920 Some time, right, Like, be realistic. 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:43.200 You saw him versus ones last week, and as an 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:45.800 ownership group and as a front office, you have to understand, Okay, 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:47.800 let's give this young man some time. Let's not put 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:50.320 so much pressure on him to be our guy right now. 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:53.200 I oppose from Dante Fowler. So outside of those guys, 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:55.680 you don't have a guy that you're like, yeah, that's 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:57.360 my pass rusher in third down situation. 0:07:57.600 --> 0:07:59.320 So you need a guy that can go do that 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:04.120 situational and he would be a great addition in that capacity. 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:06.800 And I mentioned it a few minutes ago. I love 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:09.000 the fact that you know, however you feel about the 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:11.040 Michael Parson's trade, it's done. It's in the books there 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:14.080 it is. But when you look at Schottenheimer, he's not 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:17.800 and Will McLay, they're not resting on the laurels of 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:20.840 what we know what Israku can be, we know what 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:24.360 Sam Williams can be, we know what Marshaun Naland can be. 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:27.200 They're saying that all of that's true, but it's also 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:30.200 true that we're not going to wait around to find 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:32.160 out that they can be the impact piece. We're gonna 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:34.000 let the year progress and they're going to one of 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:36.200 one or multiples of those guys are going to turn 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:38.360 out to be impact guys before this year is over. 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:42.000 But why not bring in the mercenary that's proven and 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:44.839 still has trade left you Well? 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:47.600 Also, best case scenario, right, you have these young guys 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:50.160 that are you're giving them time to develop and they're 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:53.280 hoping that you that they contribute in the way that 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:54.000 you like them. 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:56.559 To earlier then later. Right, But if the best. 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:59.000 Case scenario is you bring in some veterans that are 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:01.480 plug and play guys can execute your game plan that 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:03.880 you're trying to get accomplished, and then if you're young 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:06.960 guys come along faster than you were hoping. Now you 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:10.120 have waves of defensive linemen and I keep going back 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:13.720 to that, especially in this division, your defensive line, you 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:17.440 need two waves of defensive alignment. You need d ends 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:19.160 that you can come in in waves, and you need 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:21.600 interior d linemen that you can have in waves waves. 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:23.960 If you're able to do that in this division and 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:26.480 in this game of football where the top teams are 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:29.960 getting bigger and bigger and bigger, at the offensive line position, 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:31.240 you have a chance. 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:33.640 The Philadelphia Eagles are big upfront. 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:36.920 If you want to talk about going the going to 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:39.160 going outside the outside of the conference, the teams that 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:40.920 you're gonna have to face if you're able to get 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:43.520 to the big show, those guys are huge. Okay, if 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:45.520 they're huge, why did KC struggle last year? Why did 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:48.880 they struggle last week? Because they again pushed around up front? Right, 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:51.640 the hardballs have figured it out like this is our 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:53.720 this is our reperts woild We get big fellas up 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:54.640 front that move people. 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:57.240 Yep, whether it's Baltimore or whether that's that's the charger. 0:09:57.320 --> 0:10:00.840 So teams are realizing that the trenches is where it 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:04.000 all starts and ends. And we can obviously sprinkle in 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:06.120 our position. Guys, we still need your skill guys and 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:08.480 guys that go make plays. But at the end of 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:10.320 the day, we control the line of scrimmage. 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:12.040 Let me just ask you guys with this really quickly. 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:15.000 Jevin Clowney, he's a name that we all know. I 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:17.080 don't think I think his name has a lot of 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:19.240 pedigree behind it. I don't know that he's that player 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:20.920 that a lot of people still think that he is. 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:24.840 But my question is, does is this indicative to you 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:29.080 guys of a difference in planning for the Dallas Cowboys. 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:31.040 Do you think they're coming into this season with a 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:33.559 different mindset that they have completely I haven't seen a 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:37.400 move like this, particularly week two, signing a guy that 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:39.679 you obviously need. I haven't seen this. 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:40.120 Go back. 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:42.559 I mean, we can go back into no Sea's repertoire, 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:45.920 go back into the historic history books since Schunnenheimer has 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:47.640 taken over, what moves have taken place here with the 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:48.480 Dallas Capital. 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:51.000 Trade for picking was a big one Murray right off 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:53.560 the jump. Yeah, you signed s Kiril. Trade Murray, you 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:56.520 trade for Kyrie Elam quite at you try, You trade 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:59.120 Micah Parsons, which is an interesting deal. And then you 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:02.959 turn around and Kenny Clark in return, who is incredible 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:03.920 in his one game. 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:05.480 This is this is this? 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:07.600 This is a Schottenheimer two twenty five. 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:08.800 Yeah, yeah, interesting it is. 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:11.480 It's a different mindset, okay, and I think I think 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:13.600 it adds to the little bit to the formation of 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:16.959 twenty twenty five. Was not what the Micah Parsons trade 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:20.000 was for, But oh goodness, Kenny Clark comes in and 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:22.320 when he's on the field, the Cowboys allow two point 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:25.000 seven yards per carry. When he's off the field, it's 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:26.840 six point six yards per carry. 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:28.840 In that first matchup. It is some science. 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:31.319 It'll be on big flat, Big Facts later in the 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:34.839 day as well. So when you talk about, yes, Kenny 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:36.640 Clark showed up, and it's like, oh, we have a 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:40.000 legitimate defensive tackle. We just got to finish the pass rush, 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:42.080 and all of a sudden, our defensive line is still 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:45.520 nasty even without Michael Parsons. And I think that's the 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:49.000 realization that's happening here is, Hey, the defensive tackle room 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:51.240 is much better than it was. Oh so Niggy Zoo 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:53.400 one week one fourth highest pressure rate out of all 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:54.480 defensive tackles. 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:55.320 In the National Football League. 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:55.760 I like that. 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:57.920 Then you have Kenny Clark right there. Then you had 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:00.720 Solomon Thomas who did some great things. You didn't even 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:03.240 have Mazzie Smith active, and you can put him in 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:05.320 the fold. Now that Perry On Winfrey's not in the 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:07.440 fold and he's on IR for four weeks, so you 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:10.840 have depth at that room officially because of Kenny Clark 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:11.640 and what he's done. 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:13.559 Then you bring in a Jadevian Clowney. 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:15.240 Add that to the depth that you already have at 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:18.200 the dresser spot, and hope somebody, whether it's Clowney or 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:20.800 somebody else that's on the field, can finish and tackle 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:23.360 the quarterback and sack the quarterback. Then all of a sudden, 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:25.080 I think we're looking at this defensive line in an 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:25.880 entirely new mind. 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:27.520 So let me add some more signs to the Clowney, 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:30.160 to the Clowney situation, and it's more proof that Clowney 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:32.920 very much still has tred left on his tires, even 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:35.199 at thirty two years old, let's say thirty one. Last year, 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:37.320 I just randomly went to next Gen Stats. Shout out 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:39.720 to next Gen Stats. I chose a random game for 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:42.800 Jadeveon Clowney for the Panthers. Just a random game, any 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:45.960 old game, any old game. Average get off in this 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:50.280 particular game, this was against the Cincinnati Bengals and Trey Hendrickson. Okay, 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:53.920 against that that team, zero point seven to six average 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:58.320 get off that game, zero point seven six seconds. Is 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:01.800 ridiculous in and of it. This was a guy was 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:05.040 thirty one years old, and if you want perspective for that, 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:08.840 Michael Parsons get off in the Peckers debut was like 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:14.600 zero point seventy nine, So slower Jadeveon Clowney at thirty one, 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:16.960 interesting had at least one game in which he was 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:22.640 faster off the ball than Michael Parson's approaching peak levels. 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:25.959 There's something left there, There's some. 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:28.239 Bit, a little bit, a little. 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:30.319 Bit, and if he's in a rotation that warrants him 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:32.760 being fresh all game long. Yeah, I like it. 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:35.160 Was there any injury concerned with him last year. 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:37.559 That you got? He started fourteen games last year. Yeah, So. 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:40.120 I don't know. 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:42.760 I mean a lot of times if they bring in 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:45.079 a guy and he's eating breakfast. 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:47.520 From last year seventeen the year, there's. 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:50.080 There's going to be some level of interest there. On 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:52.800 the Cowboys side of things, I like it. 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:53.400 I do. 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:55.559 I think it's an over the top move, No, but 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:58.720 exactly how I just out it's another thing you can 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:01.319 add to the to the list of moves you've already made. 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:03.920 Absolutely, And I don't think they're done. I don't think 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:05.840 they're I think shouldn't be. Like I said, I think 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:09.040 this is indicative of a change of operation for the 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:13.000 Dallas Cowboys, and how they're willing to operate now going forward. No, 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:17.800 I feel you, Isaiah, We're not done. 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:19.520 How do you feel him? 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:20.000 I feel? 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:23.200 Do you feel? I love? How you feel? 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:29.360 Gentleman named Trell in the comments is clowning the guy 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:30.560 Isaiah was talking about. 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:31.400 We get that. 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:32.840 But I'll take them. 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:36.680 But I'll take them. They'll see what happened. No, I won't. 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:47.360 I like it that he was potentially keep the man? Okay? 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:46.360 One of those? 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:50.280 All right, Isaiah, my how forward of you. 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:52.120 Welcome to the show, sir, my. 0:14:54.640 --> 0:15:05.720 Friends. That's the one lostros spot that's open now. 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:09.400 The Cowboys, yes, potential, potentially want to open. 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:13.480 We'll see whether or not something develops out of that story. 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:16.360 But Jadavian Clowney in the building today for a meeting 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:17.200 with the cowboys. 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:19.360 APO. Oh you guys are the same size? Right? 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:20.280 Yeah? Easy? 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:22.320 Yeah, yeah, I don't know about that one. 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:26.200 All right, News and notes, Patrick, anything else to stick out? 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:28.760 Cowboys were off thatterday news. 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:31.360 That was the news. Yeah, No, cowboys were off yesterday. 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:35.800 No transactions that are of note. They they waved injured 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:38.480 Christian Matthews defensive back. They brought in lad in training camp. 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:41.000 Didn't have much of an impact, wasn't able to practice 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:43.840 much dealt with some injuries, and now he's been sent 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:46.800 a free agency with an injury settlement. And just outside 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:50.520 the building, for those that were wondering, two former Cowboys, 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:52.960 two former Cowboys draft picks found a home. We talk 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:56.960 about the Panthers and jenevon Clowny potentially arriving from the Panthers. Well, 0:15:57.200 --> 0:16:00.360 the Panthers did sign Israel Mukwamu to their practice squad 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:06.520 and Deuce Fawn with due Lands with Sean Payton, Buddyron 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:08.800 huge for him. Guess who else is on the staff 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:14.560 with Sean Payton, Darren Sprolls. I was about to say Sprolls, Wow, 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:17.120 so that might be the perfect first star. 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:19.280 That's awesome, a fortuitous arrangement. 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:19.880 I like that. 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:22.560 That's freaking awesome, dude. I love that for Duce. I 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:23.360 love that for him. 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:27.600 So two guys who deserved a first start somewhere they 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:31.600 got it is gumble and we didn't get a successful career. Man. 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:33.920 I just I just he just needed the system, he 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:36.000 needed Sean Payton and Darren Sproull. 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:39.880 Remember Sprolls, there was so much a comparison, There was 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:42.960 so much a smaller running back guy with a similar 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:46.520 skill set coming after Kansas State, strong built back. 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:49.360 He took like three years or four years to find 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:49.840 his groove. 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:52.680 That's part of why I think Dallas was so reluctant, 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:55.920 apart with the everybody Vaughn conversation. 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:57.240 But they love to Douce. 0:16:57.360 --> 0:16:59.040 They loved who he was as a person, as a 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:01.640 work worker, work ethic, all of those. 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:04.360 Things check the box. I agree with you. I think 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:06.200 there just needs to be a spot for dudes. 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:10.440 They need to have him sort of premeditated in using 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:12.920 him in the offense. They need to have a plan 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:17.400 for him, and I don't think either. McCarthy definitely did 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:19.440 not have that in mind. And I just don't think 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:21.840 as we've gone along bringing in new running backs, I 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:23.960 don't think that was the system that will fit you 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:24.960 suited him best. 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:27.639 Your point, who better to know what to do is 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:30.040 awesome with bone than Darren Sproll? 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:32.160 How cool is that for him to have him even 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:35.639 as a mentor, that that's the gold standard, Like like 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:38.359 who are you in the NFL? Well, there was one 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:40.160 guy that was like me, who is that guy? 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:43.359 Oh he's my coach, He's awesome, he's your coach in 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:46.480 your head, coach kind of knows how to core with 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:48.640 running backs who can operate him. 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:50.520 Genuinely happy for the guy. I know, I know we're 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:52.080