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Speaker 3: Chris Beam. Do you have the sounder?

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 3: It's okay, that's fine, it's fine.

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Speaker 1: I have one.

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Speaker 4: What's the sounder that sounds like breaking news? Go ahead,

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Speaker 4: it's rare. We rarely have breaking news off the top

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Speaker 5: The middle of the morning.

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Speaker 3: We are developed nine AM podcast developing.

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Speaker 1: It is developed development, breaking developing.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for this is it though, I mean it's

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Speaker 4: breaking comes to paper.

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Speaker 3: What I'm about to say, is breaking developing.

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Speaker 1: Development afterwards, it's breaking, but it's.

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Speaker 5: Breaking right now that there's a lot of things in

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Speaker 5: development developing.

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Speaker 4: Jadavi Clowney is in the building. That is the breaking news.

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Speaker 1: I like him.

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Speaker 3: He is here. He is on a visit with the

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Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 5: He just having breakfast her.

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Speaker 3: No, he's having a workout.

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Speaker 6: I thought it was no C. Honestly when I saw

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Speaker 6: him originally, I was like, that looks like no C.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 1: He just hit the gym and grew You're a liar,

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Speaker 1: but I love you. No, it's definitely been confirmed that

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Speaker 1: Jadeveon Clunty is in the building. Yeah, so we'll see

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Speaker 1: how that goes. He's here for a tryout slash workout

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Speaker 1: with the Dallas Cowboys from a first round pick. Everyone

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Speaker 1: knows Javeon Clowney very well. If you are even a

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Speaker 1: remotely casual NFL fan, you know of Jadeveon Clowney and

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Speaker 1: his contributions to his respective teams over the years. Free

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Speaker 1: agent right now Cowboys obviously goes without saying they move

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Speaker 1: on from Michael Parsons, get Kenny Clark in the building,

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Speaker 1: but they want to see apparently a veteran a mercenary,

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Speaker 1: if you will, if you will, if you will, a

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Speaker 1: So we will see if they can come to terms

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Speaker 1: on a deal with Jadeveon Clowney. Right now, it's just

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Speaker 1: a conversation and the workout and we'll see, we'll see.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's still got some tread left on

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Speaker 1: those tires. I mean, he averaged I think five and

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Speaker 1: a half, if almost six sacks between the last two.

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Speaker 1: Actually between the last two he had five and a

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Speaker 1: half a year prior. He had nine and a half

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Speaker 6: he still got some trail left on the tires, to

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Speaker 6: say the least. And I mean, obviously I'm with it

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Speaker 6: goes without saying. The reason I say developing is because again,

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Speaker 6: if you know Jadavion Clowney, then you know that you

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Speaker 6: have to pay today Yon Clowney. If you know the

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Speaker 6: Dallas Cowboys, you know that typically that becomes a part

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Speaker 1: Points, right, So that's what I mean. It's it's definitely

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Speaker 1: promising optimistic. I love the fact that in the Shattenhamany

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Speaker 1: things ahead of time. Last four seasons, twenty six sacks.

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Speaker 5: Guy that's thirty two years old.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would take five and a half sacks. Ye,

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Speaker 3: sign me up.

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Speaker 1: If you get just take six on a one year deal.

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Speaker 3: Sure you know, yeah, you give me four and a

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Speaker 1: Give them three million dollars one year deal for six secs.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you'll get six acts? Getting which one?

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Speaker 1: Which one get free? Goes back to what I was saying.

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Speaker 1: This is why we said developed.

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Speaker 3: I think it's more like.

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Speaker 4: I think it's more that's a fun game. I think

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Speaker 4: it's more likely that you would get him for three than.

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Speaker 1: He would get six sacts.

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Speaker 4: He's it's weak in the middle of the week for

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Speaker 1: What do you think?

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Speaker 4: And he's still sitting in our building having breakfast at

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Speaker 3: He's not a hype.

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Speaker 1: Nothing for a veteran at thirty, nothing for a veteran.

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Speaker 6: It means, especially when their named David, we just talked

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Speaker 6: about yesterday you want to make you want to make

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Speaker 6: a show. Bet, We just talked about veterans that are

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Speaker 6: available for that. Are that are mercenaries? Okay, guys that

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Speaker 6: hit man guys. Those guys typically aren't on rosters week one.

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Speaker 5: Why they want to feel it out and and the rule.

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Speaker 6: For a week two exactly, veteran veteran football players, if

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Speaker 6: you're on your roster week one, your whole season is

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Speaker 6: guaranteed in terms of your contract. That's why some of

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Speaker 6: these guys, guys like him are sitting at the crib

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Speaker 3: So what would you think it would cost snag a guy.

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Speaker 6: Like I think probably you got pay him probably five five?

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Speaker 4: How about we how about we split the difference four

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Speaker 4: and under, four and under five, four and above. You

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Speaker 4: and I make a show bet right now? Hey, okay,

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Speaker 4: four and under is my.

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Speaker 3: Side, four and above is yours?

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Speaker 1: Hot sauce, hot five sentims. What is that? Oh no, no,

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Speaker 1: we're talking base.

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Speaker 3: What goes to the salary cap?

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Speaker 1: Base, not escalators?

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Speaker 3: Three and a half base you're right there, Well.

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Speaker 1: No, it's not the same thing.

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Speaker 6: I'm talking about the potential Cowboys if they're able to

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Speaker 6: to come to agreement, he shows up, he's able to

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Speaker 6: have a good workout, they say, you know what, yay,

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Speaker 6: let's move forward. There is going to be in you're

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Speaker 6: dealing with the Dallas Cowboys, right, You're dealing with the

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Speaker 6: Dallas Cowboys signing a veteran who's was a mercenary. Okay,

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Speaker 6: it's going to be incentive heavy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Performance, yea performance. So that being said, I'll stick with

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Speaker 1: my three as the base and I'm still right there

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Speaker 5: And if our incentives, I hope he makes them. And

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Speaker 5: you're only making a position that already has like decent depth,

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Speaker 1: Not decent depth with pass rushers.

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Speaker 5: That's fair, that is, I think your ends have a

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Speaker 5: decent depth. But like you said, for that specific role

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Speaker 5: that he brings, correct, you don't have that player right now. Correct.

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Speaker 1: But one thing, so, what do you know about Jadavian Clowney?

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Speaker 6: Will you know that he's a he's a large human

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Speaker 6: being who's well respected.

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Speaker 1: He's not what he used to be.

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Speaker 5: So he looks like myself.

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Speaker 6: He's so he's he's tall, he was in great shape. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: he's tall, he's lanky, he's a big body. But he's violent.

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Speaker 6: And I don't care what year you want to I

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Speaker 6: is he's violent at the point of it attack. He

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Speaker 6: like in terms of the energy and the culture that

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Speaker 6: along with what you have out and and he adds

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Speaker 6: a pass rush element.

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Speaker 6: I think you have Marshaw Kneeland, who's really your He's

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Speaker 6: a he's a two gap kind of guy, right, He's

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Speaker 1: He's not really a true pass rusher.

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Speaker 6: You have Dante Fowler who's here to rush the passer, right,

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Speaker 6: Donovan Azeraka, you draft him to be your pass rusher,

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Speaker 1: Some time, right, Like, be realistic.

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Speaker 6: You saw him versus ones last week, and as an

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Speaker 6: I oppose from Dante Fowler. So outside of those guys,

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Speaker 1: So you need a guy that can go do that

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Speaker 1: situational and he would be a great addition in that capacity.

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Speaker 1: They're saying that all of that's true, but it's also

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Speaker 1: But why not bring in the mercenary that's proven and

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Speaker 6: Also, best case scenario, right, you have these young guys

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Speaker 6: you like them.

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Speaker 1: To earlier then later. Right, But if the best.

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Speaker 6: Case scenario is you bring in some veterans that are

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Speaker 6: guys come along faster than you were hoping. Now you

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Speaker 6: have waves of defensive linemen and I keep going back

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Speaker 6: to that, especially in this division, your defensive line, you

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Speaker 6: need two waves of defensive alignment. You need d ends

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Speaker 6: If you're able to do that in this division and

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Speaker 1: The Philadelphia Eagles are big upfront.

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Speaker 6: If you want to talk about going the going to

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Speaker 6: to the big show, those guys are huge. Okay, if

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Speaker 5: Let me just ask you guys with this really quickly.

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Speaker 5: Jevin Clowney, he's a name that we all know. I

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Speaker 5: But my question is, does is this indicative to you

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Speaker 1: Go back.

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Speaker 6: I mean, we can go back into no Sea's repertoire,

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Speaker 4: Trade for picking was a big one Murray right off

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Speaker 4: trade for Kyrie Elam quite at you try, You trade

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Speaker 1: This is this is this?

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Speaker 5: This is a Schottenheimer two twenty five.

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Speaker 4: It's a different mindset, okay, and I think I think

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Speaker 3: In that first matchup. It is some science.

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Speaker 3: In the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: I like that.

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Speaker 4: Then you have Kenny Clark right there. Then you had

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Speaker 3: Then you bring in a Jadevian Clowney.

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Speaker 1: So let me add some more signs to the Clowney,

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Speaker 3: There's something left there, There's some.

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Speaker 1: Bit, a little bit, a little.

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Speaker 5: Bit, and if he's in a rotation that warrants him

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Speaker 3: Was there any injury concerned with him last year.

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Speaker 1: That you got? He started fourteen games last year. Yeah, So.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I mean a lot of times if they bring in

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Speaker 1: From last year seventeen the year, there's.

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Speaker 4: There's going to be some level of interest there. On

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Speaker 1: I do.

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Speaker 4: I think it's an over the top move, No, but

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, And I don't think they're done. I don't think

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Speaker 5: they're I think shouldn't be. Like I said, I think

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Speaker 5: I feel you, Isaiah, We're not done.

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Speaker 1: How do you feel him?

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Speaker 5: I feel?

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Speaker 1: Do you feel? I love? How you feel?

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Speaker 4: Gentleman named Trell in the comments is clowning the guy

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Speaker 4: Isaiah was talking about.

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Speaker 3: We get that.

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Speaker 5: But I'll take them.

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Speaker 1: But I'll take them. They'll see what happened. No, I won't.

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Speaker 1: I like it that he was potentially keep the man? Okay?

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Speaker 3: One of those?

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Speaker 5: All right, Isaiah, my how forward of you.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the show, sir, my.

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Speaker 4: Friends. That's the one lostros spot that's open now.

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Speaker 1: The Cowboys, yes, potential, potentially want to open.

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Speaker 4: We'll see whether or not something develops out of that story.

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Speaker 4: But Jadavian Clowney in the building today for a meeting

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Speaker 1: APO. Oh you guys are the same size? Right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Easy?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't know about that one.

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Speaker 4: All right, News and notes, Patrick, anything else to stick out?

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Speaker 3: Cowboys were off thatterday news.

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Speaker 1: That was the news. Yeah, No, cowboys were off yesterday.

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Speaker 1: No transactions that are of note. They they waved injured

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Speaker 1: Didn't have much of an impact, wasn't able to practice

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Speaker 1: the building, for those that were wondering, two former Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: huge for him. Guess who else is on the staff

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Speaker 1: with Sean Payton, Darren Sprolls. I was about to say Sprolls, Wow,

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Speaker 1: so that might be the perfect first star.

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Speaker 5: That's awesome, a fortuitous arrangement.

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Speaker 1: I like that.

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Speaker 6: That's freaking awesome, dude. I love that for Duce. I

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Speaker 1: So two guys who deserved a first start somewhere they

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Speaker 1: I just I just he just needed the system, he

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Speaker 4: Remember Sprolls, there was so much a comparison, There was

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Speaker 3: He took like three years or four years to find

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Speaker 4: That's part of why I think Dallas was so reluctant,

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Speaker 3: But they love to Douce.

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Speaker 4: They loved who he was as a person, as a

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Speaker 3: Things check the box. I agree with you. I think

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Speaker 5: They need to have him sort of premeditated in using

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Speaker 5: suited him best.

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Speaker 1: Your point, who better to know what to do is

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Speaker 6: How cool is that for him to have him even

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Speaker 1: Oh he's my coach, He's awesome, he's your coach in

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Speaker 5: Genuinely happy for the guy. I know, I know we're

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Speaker 1: But Broncos as much as we're talking about a cowboy

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Speaker 1: I was still the shocking one of not shocking. It

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Speaker 4: Remember Sean Payton, did coach Darren Sprolls too? New Orleans

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Speaker 1: Answer.

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Speaker 6: The Matthews settlement was he wasn't on active, He wasn't

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Speaker 1: Was he?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: Okay, no, he started on reserve.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that didn't count as a spot.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 4: When we come back, it's time to turn the page

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Speaker 4: to Week two of the NFL season, the Cowboys taking

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Speaker 4: on the New York Giants Sunday noon kickoff on Fox.

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Speaker 3: Because it's Wednesday if you're new to talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: Every Wednesday, we preview the Dallas defense taking on the

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Speaker 4: for the Cowboys taking on Russell Wilson and the Giants

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Speaker 4: offense Matt Naghbors and company. Isaiah's got his techno bull

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Speaker 4: shirt on. It's got that touchdown Cowboys? Is that Who

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Speaker 4: is that underneath?

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Speaker 3: Is it Michael Irvin? It's Mike, Mike.

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Speaker 1: It's Mike.

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Speaker 3: Mike's on the shirt.

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Speaker 4: We'll talk about the defense when we come back with

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Speaker 1: Did you want that?

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Speaker 7: Every day begins with a promise, a promise to work

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Speaker 7: hard and to build a future. That's why we're here

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Speaker 7: providing the tools, expertise and John Deere equipment you have

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Speaker 7: relied on for generations to help you get the job

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Speaker 7: done right.

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Speaker 2: We're with you.

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Speaker 7: That's our promise to you, because no matter the project

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Speaker 7: or the challenge you're facing.

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Speaker 1: Where with you? Where are you noted?

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Speaker 4: If you're looking for fresh American roasted coffee that gives back,

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Speaker 1: How's it going?

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Speaker 3: You see that Cowboys game?

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Speaker 2: Oh? I watched.

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Speaker 1: I've been seeing some good things totally. They have some talent.

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Speaker 1: You have some great talents, and.

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Speaker 3: They got some fight hoping. This is the year me too.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm Cody.

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Speaker 3: By the way, I'm Travis.

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Speaker 1: Nice to meet you. Travis. Go Cowboys Go.

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Speaker 4: Details to Talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: Back here on Talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: This segment has brought to you by in visil Line,

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Speaker 4: the official smile.

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Speaker 3: Of the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: I didn't give the comment of the day yesterday, and

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Speaker 4: I'm disappointed because.

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Speaker 3: It was a really good one.

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Speaker 4: It was saved eight Canalis on the YouTube channel said

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Speaker 4: it took PTO just to watch the show live and

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Speaker 4: still miss thirty nine minutes of it. It's kind of

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Speaker 4: funny how life works on you sometimes.

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Speaker 3: But appreciate you taking PTO. And I don't know if

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Speaker 3: he's watching live today because he.

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Speaker 4: Took PTO yesterday. But hey, if you're watching after the fact,

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Speaker 4: thanks for watching, Thanks for loving on the showing on

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Speaker 4: the podcast.

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Speaker 5: If you're gonna take PTO to watch the show, it

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Speaker 5: needs to be a say with your just Friday, I think, hmmm,

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Speaker 5: I feel very confident in saying that.

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Speaker 3: Week Huh is that your favorite day of the week.

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Speaker 5: It's my favorite episode of the week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, Unless he was planning to get on the phone,

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Speaker 6: he missed the opportunity of mine is talking Talking Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: I love Talking Tuesday. All the days have their different.

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Speaker 4: And I teased it in the last segment, but there

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Speaker 4: is a there's a formula to this whole thing.

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Speaker 3: Tuesday is talking Tuesday, QB visions.

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Speaker 4: Monday, you have Monday's the reaction day of course after

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Speaker 4: the game.

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Speaker 1: For the most part.

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Speaker 4: Of course, this is all thrown off if we play

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Speaker 4: on Monday or Thursday, but Tuesday's usually talking Tuesday. Wednesday

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Speaker 4: we preview the Dallas defense versus the opponent's offense. Thursday

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Speaker 4: you flip it Dallas offense versus the opponent defense, and

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Speaker 4: we have the QB vision segment in segment two is

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Speaker 4: usually how we kind of roll with that and then

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Speaker 4: say it with your chest. Friday is a hodgepodge of

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Speaker 4: whatever the biggest storyline, biggest topic, biggest pressing need. We'll

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Speaker 4: play some games, we'll have some fun, and.

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Speaker 3: We'll say it with our chest.

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Speaker 5: I love it.

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Speaker 3: They all have their own little appeal to me.

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Speaker 1: I just want to thank you for using the word hodgepodge.

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Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think it's utilized enough just

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Speaker 1: in life in general.

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Speaker 5: That's also an excellent rundown for anybody that's new to

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Speaker 5: Talking Cowboys, you know, Yeah, because like you imagine, there

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Speaker 5: are we of course, we have our people are faithfuls

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Speaker 5: that have been here for a long time, myself included.

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Speaker 5: I've been listening to to Talking Cowboys for years. But

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Speaker 5: then you have people that are probably just now like

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Speaker 5: figuring out, like, oh wait that there's the Dallas Cowys

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Speaker 5: doing nine shows a day.

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Speaker 4: To check these out, and it gives us some level

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Speaker 4: of rhyme and reason to keep a consistency.

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Speaker 3: Throughout the year.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna have different topics of conversation, uh, but at

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Speaker 4: least kind of the structure of it all.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Wednesday's breaking news day. We'll always have breaking news for.

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Speaker 4: You right here off the top of the show, I

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Speaker 4: guaranteed all right. Cowboys defense taking on Russell Wilson and

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Speaker 4: the Giants offense coach Schottenheimer was asked about it the

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Speaker 4: other day because of his relationship with Russell Wilson during

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Speaker 4: their time in Seattle.

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Speaker 3: What does he do best?

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Speaker 4: He said, He's one of the best deep ball throwers

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Speaker 4: he's ever been around.

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Speaker 3: Can he still do that? Yes, you think so?

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Speaker 7: Yes?

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 3: So what about with the.

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Speaker 4: Weapons that he has around them, Guys like Mylik Neighbors

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Speaker 4: starting to become one of the elite receivers in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Yep, you think he can do it there in New York.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the Giants have the skill position weapons in terms

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Speaker 6: of the receivers. There's no question about that. Their receiving

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Speaker 6: corps is respectable. To me, you started talking about Molik

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Speaker 6: Neighbors is a He's a dude. You go back and

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Speaker 6: watch his game from last week. He was routing people

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Speaker 6: up his route. His routes are nasty and they're very

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Speaker 6: very discreet, like his nods and the way he stems

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Speaker 6: his routes. Likes there's not a lot of indications, not

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Speaker 6: a lot of indicators for the opposing defense and secondary

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Speaker 6: to kind of tip your hat as to what route

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Speaker 6: he's about to run like. He's very good at running routes.

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Speaker 6: Darius Slay's respected Wandale Robinson I think is one of

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Speaker 6: the more underrated receivers in the league. I think he

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Speaker 6: does a good job running routes in terms of Russell Wilson,

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Speaker 6: Russell Wilson didn't have a shot last week. Everybody's coming

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Speaker 6: after him and saying, you know, put in Jackson dark

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Speaker 6: and I know Jackson Dart had a great preseason and

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Speaker 6: all that jazz. But Russell Wilson, if you go back

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Speaker 6: and watch the film, Russell Wilson, the balls that he

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Speaker 6: had time to throw was still accurate. Russell Wilson still

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Speaker 6: had the velocity. Russell Wilson still put the ball on

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Speaker 6: the money. Majority of that game. The defensive line of

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Speaker 6: the Washington Commanders literally held up the face of the

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Speaker 6: Giants offensive line and slapped them all day long. The

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Speaker 6: left tackle needs to go go see the priest and

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Speaker 6: talk and everything else because he, oh my goodness, he

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Speaker 6: was so bad you're talking about.

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Speaker 3: It's not Thomas, right Tom.

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Speaker 1: They're trying to get him back right now, Hudson or

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Speaker 1: something like that, James Hudgs.

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Speaker 6: Listen, the offensive line is bad. They're they're rushing, they're running.

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Speaker 6: Attack is bad. Their past level is very vertical. They're

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Speaker 6: not getting any pushed. There's pretty much a stalemate at

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Speaker 6: the line of scrimmage. If not getting pushed backwards, they're

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Speaker 6: not getting to the second level.

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Speaker 1: They're past blocking is abysmal. It is really bad.

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Speaker 6: They're timing seemingly as all off. The tight ends can't block,

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Speaker 6: the tackles can't block. I mean, Russell Wilson just had

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Speaker 6: zero time. But when you look at the routes, the

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Speaker 6: routes were there. Conceptually what they're trying to do offensively.

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Speaker 6: When they're spread out, I like their routes. I like

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Speaker 6: their concepts. When they're in condensed sets, I think it

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Speaker 6: gets very convoluted for them. They try to run some

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Speaker 6: stuff down in the red zone with condensed splits. They

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Speaker 6: try to run little bunch sets, things that are close

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Speaker 6: to the tackle box, and the spacing is just not

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Speaker 6: there at the routes. The routes are on top of

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Speaker 6: each other and defenders are all in the area of

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Speaker 6: the receiver. So I think they're condensed sets. Though they

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Speaker 6: liked to try to get to those, I think they don't.

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Speaker 6: They don't have it figured out yet in terms of

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Speaker 6: spacing and timing. But when they're spread out, those guys, yeah,

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Speaker 6: they're they're getting to day Bowl system and those guys

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Speaker 6: are getting open. But Russell Wilson had did not have

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Speaker 6: the time last week he did not.

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Speaker 5: And in terms of that, I mean, obviously Russell Wilson

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Speaker 5: can still cook. I genuinely believe that he doesn't have

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Speaker 5: any time to throw the ball, and even what he does,

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Speaker 5: he doesn't have enough confidence in his offensive line too

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Speaker 5: stand in the pocket because he feels the pressure coming

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Speaker 5: when it's not even there. He expects ghost. It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 5: Their defense, the rushing defense thirtieth in the league last year,

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Speaker 5: doesn't look to have improved by any stretch. They had

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Speaker 5: thirteen plays in the red zone, eleven of which were

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Speaker 5: inside the ten yard line, led to three points.

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Speaker 1: It was bad.

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Speaker 5: That is really bad. And when you have a first

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Speaker 5: and goal from the one yard line and your first

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Speaker 5: play Brian day ball, your first play is a gimmick

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Speaker 5: trick play to your back up right tackle, that is

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Speaker 5: a problem. That is indicative. That is saying I don't

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Speaker 5: trust my offensive line to get me one yard in

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Speaker 5: four tries.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Listen, Russell didn't have time on that one.

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Speaker 3: And we're talking about what do you need on to

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Speaker 3: make that appro You need time.

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Speaker 1: And we're speaking generally as far as saying Russell Wilson

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Speaker 1: didn't have time, And I know a lot of fans.

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Speaker 1: They hear that and they say, okay, well what does

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Speaker 1: that mean. Let me tell you what that means. The Giants'

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Speaker 1: offensive line on forty five pass blocks, forty five dropbacks,

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Speaker 1: they allowed twenty eight pressures. That's insanity. More than half

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Speaker 1: the time that Russ dropped back is that sixty percent? Yes,

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Speaker 1: he was under duress, which is to Josh's point why

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Speaker 1: he started feeling ghosts even when they weren't there. He

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Speaker 1: went full of Sam Donald. Okay, so that bodes exceptionally

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Speaker 1: well for the Cowboys, especially if Andrew Thomas can't come

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Speaker 1: back for week two. Because you mentioned James Hudson. You

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Speaker 1: guys mentioned James Hudson. He was accountable for nine of

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Speaker 1: those quarterback pressures. Nine. There was some series whereas back

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Speaker 1: to back, Yeah, back to back play And credit to

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Speaker 1: Russ given that he was pressured twenty eight times, only

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Speaker 1: allowed two sacks, only sacked twice. He was running for

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Speaker 1: his life. But in running for his life, he couldn't

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Speaker 1: set his feet. He couldn't get the accuracy level that

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Speaker 1: he wanted had he been able to set his feet.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, this is a game where with or

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Speaker 1: without Jadeveon Clowney specifically with but whether without Jaevion Clowney.

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Speaker 1: This is a team and the Cowboys who came off

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Speaker 1: of a great pressure rate against the Philadelphia Eagles. They

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Speaker 1: didn't get home but.

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Speaker 5: Once, and that's the thing they can get.

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Speaker 6: I do have one concern because I'm not rid of

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Speaker 6: we're laying this out as if Dallas is about to

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Speaker 6: just run through some hot dogs.

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Speaker 2: Work.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they still have a lot to work on, and

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Speaker 1: I think I do.

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Speaker 6: Believe that it's an opportunity for these young d ns

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Speaker 6: to work on their pass rushing, maybe.

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Speaker 3: Clown or without. Maybe that's why he's in the building.

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Speaker 1: Well, last last you'll played the Giants. Let's think about it.

666
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: Last week.

667
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Speaker 6: The first half, I'm pretty sure the D line was

668
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 6: instructed to two gap and try to contain Jalen Hurts.

669
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 6: They weren't pass rushing the second half. You saw Dante

670
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 6: Fowler started. You remember me in the middle of the game,

671
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 6: I was like, why are these guys not rushing the

672
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 6: pastor like they're running right down the middle of these

673
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 6: guys are not picking a shoulder when you were.

674
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Speaker 4: Mad at how much he pinched into and you go

675
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 4: back and watch on the film watching it live, it

676
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 4: was bad watching it on the film. He's being pushed

677
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 4: inside almost every was frustrating, right your pastor it was

678
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 4: a rough week one. If you're a pass rusher and

679
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 4: you're being told to not pass rush, like instinctively you're

680
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 4: gonna be like, let me get to this quarterback and

681
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 4: then you go to do that and you're like, crap,

682
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 4: I'm not doing my assignment right and you get screwed.

683
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 4: So but in the second half you started seeing Dante

684
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 4: Foller especially and Donovan Azeraku, they were being allowed to

685
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 4: do their pass rush and they started picking one side

686
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 4: of the tackle instead of going down the middle of

687
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Speaker 4: the tackle, and they started getting some pressure. So it's

688
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 4: not as if Dallas can't rush the pass or it's

689
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Speaker 4: just I believe they were in being instructed not to

690
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 4: be a focal point there. But I m bringing that

691
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Speaker 4: up because the times that Russell Wilson was able to

692
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 4: have some time and was able to pick apart the

693
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 4: defense a little bit was when the Washington Commanders were

694
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 4: playing zone. When Washington Commanders were playing zone and the

695
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 4: and the New York Giants were not in condensed sets,

696
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson, he was decisive he was quick, the ball

697
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 4: was out of his hands. You knew, you can tell

698
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 4: confidence that he understood what the zone was where the

699
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,479
Speaker 4: ball was supposed to go with that particular concept and

700
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 4: it was old school russ right, just boom, see the ball,

701
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 4: dump the ball. Let's walk with confidence is get back

702
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 4: to that line of scrimmage. The Washington Commanders played a

703
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 4: lot of mando man defense a lot because they had

704
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 4: confidence and their ability to get home at the defensive front.

705
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 4: Last week, Dallas didn't show hardly any man to man

706
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 4: if at all.

707
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Speaker 1: I have to go back and let's see.

708
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Speaker 6: So I am interested to see if Matt Eberflus in

709
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 6: acts Manda man defense, because we did not see that

710
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 6: last week, and that was partially scheme.

711
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 5: What you simply can go one v one and win

712
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 5: this game. Yes, they don't have the personnel to beat

713
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 5: you in that if you're just going man to man

714
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 5: like I said, or like you said, if you're incorporating

715
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Speaker 5: more of a blitz package with Eberflus, which you can do,

716
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 5: want to disrupt them early and often. I think that's

717
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 5: a great idea. I think if you incorporate the blitz

718
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 5: very early on, you're going to have success.

719
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I want to know what this secondary get the

720
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 6: matter in man, we don't know. We don't know how

721
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 6: healthy Trayvon Diggs is and his ability to garden man.

722
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 6: We don't know how confident Darron Bland is and his

723
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 6: ability to garden man. We don't know Kyrie Elam in

724
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 6: a game situation. And now we don't know. We saw

725
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 6: them in zone last week and they were very, very effective.

726
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 6: That's what I was going to but I want to

727
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 6: see it in man. That's what I was going to point.

728
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: At, because I understand the concern or the intrigue for

729
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: you seeing Russ having some success against the zone that

730
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: was run by the Commanders. We said this coming out

731
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Speaker 1: of the Giants game, not the Giants game, I'm sorry,

732
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: the Eagles game. Wherein now we know that the Cowboys

733
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: secondary can play an elite at elite, an elite level

734
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Speaker 1: in zone versus multiple actual weapons A J Brown, devonte' smill,

735
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: super Bowl champion, right right, those three guys plus Jalen

736
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: Hurts throwing the ball and it got her and got her. Right.

737
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: So when you look at the Commanders, they don't have

738
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Speaker 1: that that artillery the Giants. Oh, when you look at

739
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: the Giants. They don't have that artillery, right, they have

740
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: elite neighbors three Swandale Robinson. Can he can play some ball? Yes? Again,

741
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: but is he Devontae Smith.

742
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 3: It's not the same.

743
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: Though it's same, it's not. They don't have the same

744
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: caliber weapon that tight end either. So if you're going

745
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: to switch to man for this game, because you believe

746
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: that Trayvon Diggs and Jerry Jones said it on one

747
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: five three the Fan, he believes that Trayvon Diggs is

748
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: capable of being fully unleashed. Now, okay, if that's the case,

749
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: you're talking man coverage with Trayvon Kyeir and then Deron. Again,

750
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: the Giants don't have the personnel to match up against that,

751
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: and then combine that with the fact that the offensive

752
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: line for New York simply cannot stop a running nose, right,

753
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: So the pressure is going to be there. So this

754
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: is a perfect game to be able to be a

755
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: man because it's short in the coverage windows.

756
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 3: Can I add some numbers to this conversation.

757
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: I like numbers.

758
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 3: There are some.

759
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 4: These are good numbers too. Cowboys utilized in twenty twenty four.

760
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Speaker 4: So this is last different coordinator keep that in mind,

761
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 4: they still utilized more than eighty percent of opposing dropbacks

762
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 4: in zone coverage. They were in zone coverage for more

763
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 4: than eighty percent of the time all the way throughout

764
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 4: twenty twenty four in that spot, and they had all

765
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 4: in every game they had more than fifty percent in

766
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 4: zone coverage except for one game, and that was Week

767
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 4: eleven against the Texans, who have some weapons in their

768
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 4: own right. Last week you talked about it, you said

769
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 4: they used a lot of zone.

770
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 3: You didn't see any man. It's because they didn't play man.

771
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 4: The Cowboys deployed zone coverage in every single one of

772
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 4: the thirty three Jalen Hurts dropbacks in their Week one

773
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Speaker 4: loss to the Eagles, only the second team to do

774
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 4: so in a game since it started the twenty twenty

775
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,439
Speaker 4: four season. The Bills did it in Week thirteen last year,

776
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 4: and that was the only other time that a team

777
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 4: in the entire NFL has only used zone.

778
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 3: And I get it, it was a matchup thing.

779
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 4: You're going to see it because of the way that

780
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 4: the Philadelphia Eagles run their offense and the way that

781
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 4: they have the weapons on the outside. I don't know

782
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 4: if even with the matchup against the Giants, We're still

783
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 4: going to see a whole lot of man just because traditionally,

784
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,919
Speaker 4: this group, this personnel package used zone last year.

785
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 3: They've only used zone this year. Why change it going

786
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 3: into it?

787
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 4: But it would because and the reason why, I guess

788
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 4: is because Russell Wilson knows how to read his own

789
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 4: and he can pick it apart.

790
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: That's one.

791
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 3: But at the same time, I don't think it's going

792
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 3: to be a huge discription.

793
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: I do think this will be I was going to say,

794
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: I think this is We're right here. I think this

795
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: is going to be a huge test of will Matt

796
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: Eberflus quite literally tailor his game plan on a week

797
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 1: week basis question which you might and that that I'm

798
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: right there with Isaiah on that particular point because I

799
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: see the numbers. I understand that was zimmer last year,

800
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: that was Dan Quinnen in years prior to Zimber. We

801
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: don't know what Eberflus looks like. What we just saw

802
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: was eber Flus. Look at how vig Fangio uh not

803
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: found you, but how the Eagles just how they were

804
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: able to take advantage of the Cowboys with their personnel

805
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: set right, their offensive personnel sit. A lot of that

806
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: was against man coverage. Eberflu said, the hell with that,

807
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: what would you what would you rather have?

808
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 6: Would you rather have a decoordinator and Matt Eberflus that

809
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 6: changes from week to week basically as opponent, or would

810
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 6: you rather have them have this base defenses.

811
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 5: Like tr Eflues. That is that is what has killed

812
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 5: us so much in the past. I want someone that

813
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 5: is malleable, that is able to look at the guys

814
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 5: across from you and say, well, that's not going to

815
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 5: work this week. We need to change things up. And

816
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 5: it's something that we I mean he even did in

817
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 5: the second half last week, change it up. It wasn't

818
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 5: working in the first half. You weren't able to contain

819
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts, wasn't able to get pressure, No, not at all.

820
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 5: So immediately came and started and bringing pressure. And then

821
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 5: and halftime grinded was the long halftime, and then you

822
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 5: had the delay and everything. But the defense played much better.

823
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 5: They held them in the second half, and they contained

824
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts for as much as they could in that

825
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 5: second half and squon I mean it was crazy. I

826
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 5: mean I want that. I want someone that is malleable, and.

827
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Speaker 1: It also makes it very difficult for the opponent you

828
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 1: have coming Nope next week to be able to settle

829
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: in and say, well, they have these tendencies. Well, if

830
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: your tendency is to adapt every single week.

831
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 5: What are you giving the namecy?

832
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: What is your tendency?

833
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 4: Here's the numbers from Eberflus last year prior to being

834
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 4: fired by Chicago, and he was the defensive play callers,

835
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 4: so keep that in mind. Bears defense played zone coverage

836
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 4: on seventy eight percent of opposing dropbacks that last season,

837
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 4: the ninth highest rate in the NFL. Only the Cowboys

838
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 4: and Seahawks have allowed a lower passing success rate when

839
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 4: playing zone coverage than the Bears this season, and that was.

840
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: In twenty four. Okay, so he's still like zone.

841
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 4: He's going to play a lot of it, but it's

842
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 4: not one specific type of zone. It's different types of Yeah,

843
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 4: it's gonna makes imagine disguise and throw different wrinkles into

844
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 4: the whole thing. It'll be interesting to see if they

845
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 4: utilize any kind of man going into.

846
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,280
Speaker 1: This, which is it. It's awesome if you have a pass.

847
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 6: Rush, Yeah, yeah, zone zone defense when guys can play

848
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 6: zone and understand zone and play with each play you know,

849
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 6: to each other's.

850
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: What's the word? I'm looking for strengths.

851
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 6: Strengths right, and you're okay passing off zones like, hey,

852
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,919
Speaker 6: this is my area. I'm passing it off to you. Now, Kyle,

853
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 6: you're passing off the path, passing it off.

854
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: Just go.

855
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 6: When you can do that, it's awesome because it makes

856
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,720
Speaker 6: it very difficult to find passing lanes if somebody's always

857
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 6: coming into a zone when you're running a route. If

858
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 6: you can have a pass rush with that, it makes

859
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 6: it almost impossible for opposing offenses to have success throw

860
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 6: on the ball, which is why when you start seeing

861
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 6: people come in the building, you need somebody to go

862
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 6: get the quarterback.

863
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: And I know people in the chat are gonna be like, well,

864
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,720
Speaker 1: you let wanted some the best guy in the league

865
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: out the building, understand, But what can you do with that?

866
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 6: Like we always said, that's a great move if you

867
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 6: use the space, if you use the picks to go

868
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 6: out there and make your team better across the board.

869
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 6: If they can Dallas Cowboys can elicit a pass rush

870
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 6: without the necessity to blitz while running zone collectively and

871
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 6: getting better every week at their zone coverage, it is

872
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 6: going to be difficult for opposing offense to throw the ball.

873
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 4: That's how the passing game looks going into this week

874
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 4: two matchup. When we come back, we got to talk

875
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 4: about the run defense and how they may fare against

876
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson.

877
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: The Dunna ball.

878
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 4: SE's still mobile enough to run the football when we

879
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Speaker 4: come back right after this.

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Speaker 1: Right. So, since we're talking about Cowboys run defense versus

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Speaker 1: the versus the Giants attempt to run the ball in

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Speaker 1: this coming Sunday's matchup, you should attempt attempt because that's

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Speaker 1: that's what they're going to do. I'm going to draw

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Speaker 1: circle around Kenny Clark.

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Speaker 5: Oh, he's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty good. Uh. He acquitted himself exceptionally well in

962
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Speaker 1: his Cowboys debut against the Eagles.

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Speaker 5: But no, no, no, no, that was against Saquon Barkley.

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Speaker 3: It was all works.

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Speaker 5: You can't tell me, he was.

966
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Speaker 1: I can, I will. I just did the starting O

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Speaker 1: line for Philadelphia. That is correct, that's him, okay, And

968
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Speaker 1: now he's going against a Giants offensive line and that's

969
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Speaker 1: not an attack. That simply is not what he went

970
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Speaker 1: against against the Eagles. But we talked about Javeon Clowney's

971
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Speaker 1: get off. It's insane in the upper you know, point

972
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Speaker 1: zero seven. But Kenny Clark point I'm sorry, zero point

973
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Speaker 1: eight nine seconds last week against the Eagles. And if

974
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Speaker 1: you want context on that, a lot of fans asked

975
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Speaker 1: me on Twitter, Well, contextually, what does that put him

976
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Speaker 1: against some of the best defensive tackles in the game

977
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Speaker 1: last week? Well, Chris Jones was zero point eight seven.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Lawrence. He's pretty good. He's coming to town.

979
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Speaker 1: One point eight seconds. Quinn Williams with the New York

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Speaker 1: He's pretty good. He's one point one nine seconds. The

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Speaker 1: big fellas, Yes, the only five players on the Cowboys

982
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Speaker 1: roster had a quicker get off last week against the Eagles.

983
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Speaker 1: Then did Kenny Clark. And all five of them are

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Speaker 1: defensive ends. You have a nose tackle, not a three tech.

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Speaker 5: No, I don't know. A big fellow, A big.

986
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Speaker 1: Fellow getting off the ball faster than a lot of

987
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Speaker 1: defensive ends in the league. That's what the Giants are

988
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Speaker 1: going to be up against between him Osa, Solomon and

989
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Speaker 1: Osa and Sally.

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Speaker 5: Shut the big.

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Speaker 1: What was Solomon Thomas's get off?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 1: I got you, I got you? He was thrown. You

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Speaker 1: know what's crazy is is you would look at my

995
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Speaker 1: eyes to see me. They they do not toceive you.

996
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Speaker 1: Let's see where it's at. That was science. By the way,

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Speaker 1: If you guys didn't pick up what you know he

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Speaker 1: was putting.

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Speaker 5: Looks like from a street fighter b.

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Speaker 6: They just they just cast.

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Speaker 1: Did you see that? It's a goott Yeah, that they're

1002
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Speaker 1: casting of questions that I didn't get in that one.

1003
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Speaker 1: You could have did you very well could have? My friend,

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Speaker 1: why did you not? I mean you've done w w E.

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Speaker 1: Why are you not doing?

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Speaker 6: Why are you not an action here? You never know

1007
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Speaker 6: what I'm getting into next, he never knows. I think

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Speaker 6: you need to I need you need to put it

1009
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Speaker 6: out man might dabble. I think you need to put

1010
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Speaker 6: it out there. If we're being completely honest to answer

1011
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Speaker 6: your question. Solomon Thomas was one point one eight seconds

1012
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Speaker 6: right there alongside Quentinn Williams also was zero point nine

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Speaker 6: eight seconds and those guys were still eating well with

1014
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Speaker 6: that get off. And then compare that to what Kenny again,

1015
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Speaker 6: Kenny Clark's getting off of the ball like a defensive

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Speaker 6: end actually faster, quicker is a better word, quicker than

1017
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Speaker 6: a lot of defenses.

1018
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Speaker 5: And then next to him in rotation is Zangeief from

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Speaker 5: street fighters and Solomon Thomas.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, let's.

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Speaker 5: Check it out. There is.

1022
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Speaker 1: Fight. So yeah, Cowboys run defense has a chance to

1023
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Speaker 1: really do something special and good looking against the Giants

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Speaker 1: offense who simply could.

1025
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Speaker 6: Not run the ball at all. Twenty three for seventy

1026
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 6: four Yeah, ungreat, very ungreat.

1027
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Speaker 3: Twenty three carries for seventy four.

1028
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,280
Speaker 1: Yards, very ungreat. Not ideal.

1029
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Speaker 3: Well, not just that the Commanders having a good interior.

1030
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Speaker 1: But in perspective forty four of those rushing yards with

1031
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Speaker 1: Russ that's true.

1032
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Speaker 4: Okay, So man, that brings up my next question of yeah,

1033
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Speaker 4: the mobile quarterback week two in a row, he can

1034
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Speaker 4: still run it. Does that present some level of concern

1035
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 4: just because of what you saw from Dallas in week one?

1036
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Speaker 5: If you had the same game plan as last week

1037
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Speaker 5: where you're just worried about your linebackers managing the current

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Speaker 5: linebacker situation, Jack sam Bourne, if and Kenneth Murray closing

1039
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Speaker 5: in on Russell Wilson, I think you will be absolutely fine.

1040
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Speaker 4: It's a little easier to close in on thirty plus

1041
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 4: year old Russell Wilson than it is Jalen Hurts right now,

1042
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 4: well a little bit.

1043
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Speaker 1: If you take him I know, Jim, I don't know.

1044
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: I know that I do know, Jim.

1045
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Speaker 6: If you take out Russell Wilson's eight attempts for forty

1046
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 6: four yards, which were on broken place because they don't

1047
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 6: script Russell Wilson to run the ball, then between Tracy

1048
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 6: Singletary and Scottiboo they collectively had fifteen attempts for thirty yards.

1049
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 5: But okay, that's not good. But don't let Schttaboo get going.

1050
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: Man, he's physical. I'm not worried about him running around.

1051
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: You just better have more than one person. You know

1052
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Speaker 1: what I do like And you're right, Skatabool is very physical,

1053
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,919
Speaker 1: especially if you ever watched any of his collegiate tape

1054
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: State Reef my friend, good grief. That being said, I

1055
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: have to say I like this level of physicality I'm

1056
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 1: seeing from just Shottenheimer's team, and of course that permeates.

1057
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 1: We'll talk about the offense as well, the offensive line

1058
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, but defensive line again, Kenny Clark and

1059
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: Osen Sally that interior is just nasty, Like they play nasty.

1060
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: You know who else if you can get them on

1061
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 1: a contract and not let.

1062
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Speaker 6: Them shout out quick shout out to shout out to

1063
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Speaker 6: Aaron Whitecotton. Yeah, yeah, Like, we cannot blow by the

1064
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 6: fact that these position coaches are going to have a

1065
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 6: tremendous impact on the identity of these position groups and

1066
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 6: the culture of this team. Like people talk about we

1067
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 6: talk about players all day long, and we talk about

1068
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 6: the head coach or even the coordinators. Right oftentimes, the

1069
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 6: position coaches spend more time with these guys than anybody

1070
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 6: else on the staff.

1071
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 2: YEP.

1072
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 6: So when you see players start having success, when you

1073
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 6: start seeing position groups start to take on a different identity,

1074
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 6: it's not by chance. It's not by chance. So we're

1075
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 6: giving a lot of kudos to how this defensive front

1076
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 6: played last week. It's not that these guys are just like, Okay, yeah,

1077
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. Kenny Clark comes in here,

1078
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 6: or everybody's just following Osa's like, no, this is a

1079
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 6: requirement if you're playing for Aaron Whitecotton, who was the best,

1080
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 6: the best D line coach in football last year. That's

1081
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 6: what everybody called him coming over from from the Jets.

1082
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 6: He brought a certain mentality and a certain standard with

1083
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 6: him when he came to the Dallas Cowboys, and everybody

1084
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 6: is embodying who he is. Everybody is demanded that they

1085
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 6: put out a certain effort, that they get off the ball,

1086
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 6: that they play with a certain violence like this is

1087
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,959
Speaker 6: mandated by the position group. Coach and I under people

1088
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 6: need to understand that that is not by chance.

1089
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: And the Jets missed Aaron Whitecotton last week.

1090
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 4: They definitely did. And it throws me all the way

1091
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 4: back to training camp. As we wrap up the show,

1092
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 4: here throws me all the way back to training camp.

1093
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 4: There was a miked up segment with Brian Schottenheimer. One

1094
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 4: of the conversations he had was with coach Whitecott and

1095
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 4: he said, man, there media is playing you, playing you up.

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Speaker 4: They love you, they love what they've seen so far.

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Speaker 4: And this was middle through, midway through training He said,

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Speaker 4: we haven't played anybody yet. There's no reason to build

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Speaker 4: me up yet. I love that mentality. By the way

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Speaker 4: he said, they haven't played anybody yet. You know what

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Speaker 4: they played somebody. They look pretty good, and I think

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Speaker 4: there's one step in the right direction, and we'll see

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Speaker 4: what White Cotton can continue doing as we go along

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Speaker 4: here in this.

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Speaker 3: Twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: We're not clowning around.

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Speaker 3: No, not at all, not today.

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Speaker 2: Baby.

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Speaker 3: When we come back tomorrow, we'll have some QB vision.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna preview the Cowboys offense versus that Giants defense.

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Speaker 4: See how Dak Press goot in that passing game can

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Speaker 4: get going and keep it going against the Giants in

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Speaker 4: Week two for Patrick goc Walker, Josh Roderriguez, Isaiah standback,

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Speaker 4: Chris Beam in the back, I'm Kyle Yeoman saying so

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Speaker 4: long from Talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: We'll see you tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Wait a best.

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Speaker 2: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and

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