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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to Good Morning Football, presented by Old Trapper

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Speaker 2: Beef Jerky. We're live here in New York City. It's Monday,

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Speaker 2: November twentieth. I'm Jamie r at All. There's Kyle Grant,

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Speaker 2: Peter Schrager, Jason mccordy. It was a game to watch

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Speaker 2: last night. A lot of implications on Sunday football, Kyles don't.

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Speaker 1: And then we should go to it. They were very

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Speaker 1: excited for this game in Denver. The team is winning.

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Speaker 1: It's primetime, it's home, it's Peyton, It's Russ and the

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Speaker 1: face of the NFL Joshua Dobbs owning the NFL's longest

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Speaker 1: win streak five straight games with a touchdown for Courtland Sutton,

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Speaker 1: who's in the crowd is going nuts. Broadcos win, Broncos win.

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Speaker 1: They stared down and Jempson on the sideline and Russ says,

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Speaker 1: come on, man, come on, man, Russ, you gotta going.

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Speaker 1: Peyton's got it going. They are now five and five,

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Speaker 1: like a phoenix from the asses. Let's see it from

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Speaker 1: the QB. One of the Denver Broncos after dumb on

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Speaker 1: Sunday nights.

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Speaker 3: So it really matters about this game. And I think,

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Speaker 3: you know, winning this game on Sunday night football and

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Speaker 3: everything else is just shows who we can be and

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Speaker 3: who we are. You know, you got it to be

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Speaker 3: a great team. You got to be able to win

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Speaker 3: the games you should win. But you also gotta be

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Speaker 3: able to win the games that have been tough throughout

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Speaker 3: the whole day, and the games that it looks dark

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Speaker 3: for a little bit. You just come through it. And

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Speaker 3: that's what's really key. So I think the most important

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Speaker 3: thing for us we gotta stay humble, we gotta stay hungry.

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Speaker 2: So the Broncos came up huge on Sunday Football with

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Speaker 2: that win. They halted the Vikings win streak that was

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Speaker 2: at five entering that game, and now they take ownership

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Speaker 2: of the longest active win streak in the league right

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Speaker 2: now with four straight of the Browns and the Texans

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Speaker 2: really unforeseen teams also on win streaks. But here we are,

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Speaker 2: come back win from Russ and the Broncos at home

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Speaker 2: in prime time.

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Speaker 4: Peter speak on it one in.

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Speaker 1: Five, everyone's writing them off.

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Speaker 5: They decide not to trade Jerry Judy they trade, not

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Speaker 5: to trade Patrick Certain, they decide not to trade Courtland Sutton.

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Speaker 5: They give up seventy points in a game. Russell Wilson

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Speaker 5: stinking it up. Everyone's wondering if Stidam's gonna go in.

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Speaker 5: Jamie started the show saying, Kyle usually wears a.

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Speaker 1: Jersey in the morning.

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Speaker 5: You're wearing your brock Purty. You've got your awesome Browns,

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Speaker 5: Ryan rivera best in the business, and bring them out.

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Speaker 1: Peter, Oh yeah, Peter, come on, Corn's crush.

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Speaker 4: What did you do?

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Speaker 1: Come on, come on, this feels amazing. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Russ's back, baby, And so are the Broncos.

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Speaker 1: Five and five, right.

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Speaker 4: In the thick of this thing.

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Speaker 5: Everything against them, chips stagger, They're just chipping away, chipping away.

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Speaker 5: I'm proud to wear Russell Wilson jersey this morning. They

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Speaker 5: were one and five, they're five and five.

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Speaker 1: They're rolling.

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Speaker 5: If you don't know the backstory, I took the Broncos

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Speaker 5: to make the playoffs before the season, and I hear

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Speaker 5: about it every single morning from September to October to

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Speaker 5: early November. And now that we're turning the corner of

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Speaker 5: near Thanksgiving, I'm gonna proudly wear this Broncos jersey. I

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Speaker 5: might adapt them as my team, your teamen my Broncos

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Speaker 5: say we.

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Speaker 1: Did also hand out some hard words to them. I did,

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Speaker 1: I did.

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Speaker 5: Sean Payton was my pick for coach of the year.

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Speaker 5: Give up seventy points. They're listening to the Jets. Everyone's last.

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Speaker 1: That's the old loose but that's what makes the story

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Speaker 1: why we're here. Roll all scripted, Jason.

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Speaker 5: I don't know where you're going from here, but I'm

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Speaker 5: wearing rust jersey and it feels pretty good.

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Speaker 7: Did you hit Sean Payton up like buddy? I need

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Speaker 7: you like one in five. I picked you for things

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Speaker 7: like come on now, talk to the team.

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Speaker 1: Let's send I said, trade that Cortland Sun for sixty

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Speaker 1: cents on the dollar. Let's look to next year. No, no,

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Speaker 5: Ten toes down on Courtland something I was maybe not OK.

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Speaker 1: It was a little nervous as you were putting the

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Speaker 5: Well that Hudson News it looks like the looks like

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Speaker 5: the oasis when.

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Speaker 1: You all it's a piece of firewood up look at

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Speaker 1: the news. Sower apples that dry free.

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Speaker 7: Talking about champag he walked in somebody's office. It was

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Speaker 7: Vance Joseph, and they have figured things out. On defense,

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Speaker 7: you're talking about Russ. The only person I think does

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Speaker 7: walking around proud or chessmore poked out is Vance Joseph,

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Speaker 7: the defensive coordinator for the Denver Broncos. The last three games,

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Speaker 7: they've been able to win twelve takeaways in those three games.

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Speaker 7: Think about the Buffalo Bills. First play of the game,

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Speaker 7: McMillan rips it out of James Cook's hands. Third play

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Speaker 7: of the game last night, Josh Dobbs fumbles, McMillan picks.

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Speaker 1: The ball up, Broncos ball.

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Speaker 7: The fumble that they forced on Alexander Madison was huge.

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Speaker 7: That was the point where the Vikings are driving in

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Speaker 7: think nothing was more impressive than Dobbs gets the ball back.

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Speaker 7: There's a min in three seconds the whole time.

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Speaker 1: Three time out wins it.

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Speaker 7: Three timeouts and all you need is a field goal.

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Speaker 7: So you're thinking, right there, for Dobbs, the face of

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Speaker 7: the NFL, of course he's gonna be able to do this.

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Speaker 7: Eight plays, negative four yards, turnover on downs, the Broncos.

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Speaker 7: So I've been so impressed with vance Joseph. You mentioned

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Speaker 7: the seventy point game. Everything was going wrong for the

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Speaker 7: Broncos in their defense. We were talking about Russ's playing

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Speaker 7: all right. Is the defense has letting them down. They

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Speaker 7: turned around, they're getting pressured or making plays and that's

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Speaker 7: why they're on this win streak that they're wrong.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this is a Peyton thing. I really do.

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Speaker 1: I went back and looked at the post Dolphins press

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Speaker 1: conference that he had when they had given up seventy.

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Speaker 1: It was unbelievable. He was ashen, he was angry. He

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Speaker 1: you think that's rock bottom. But they rock bottom early.

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Speaker 1: You can get early. You can climb out of that

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Speaker 1: I think it's coaching, and like it is all the

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Speaker 1: cliches that you hear and maybe you roll your eyes

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Speaker 1: at about culture and accountability and how many segments do

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Speaker 1: we do about we're not wearing bucket hats on the sideline,

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Speaker 1: we're not doing all right fine. It seems like a

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Speaker 1: lot of the time he's made a huge difference. That

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Speaker 1: place was rocking last night. You believed in Russ, you

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Speaker 1: it's culture change. I think it's all that identity, identity.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's coaching, erotica. It's everything you teach these

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Speaker 1: high school coaches. Peyton's made a massive difference. Peter, don't

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Speaker 1: great things going on in Houston and MIT Soda and Detroit,

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Speaker 1: but if you were to start one in five and

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Speaker 1: That is very very rare, and that is coaching. I listen.

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Speaker 1: Russ has been really good. It's fun to watch him.

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Speaker 1: It feels like it's eight years ago. The Peyton experience

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Speaker 5: They did make some move when you cut Randy Gregor

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Speaker 5: get out here and you're like, hey, Frank Clark, we

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Speaker 5: signed you for a deal. Great player, two time super

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Speaker 5: World champion, it's not working here. Not a lot of

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Speaker 5: coaches would have to courage to do that, and a

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Speaker 5: lot of coaches would have the clout to do that.

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Speaker 5: Hayton's like, Hey, this is my building and we're going

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Speaker 5: to clean it up. They did it, and it's working.

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Speaker 2: Sean Payton did the very jarring thing for us all,

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Speaker 2: which is he talked the talk very early and we

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Speaker 4: We were like, why'd you do that?

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Speaker 2: Don't do that, And it took a long time to

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Speaker 2: finally be able to walk to walk, and it seems

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Speaker 2: like he has gotten his team to a point where

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Speaker 2: he wants them playing that way. We'll talk about the

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Speaker 2: Vikings as well, because that game Lessite had massive implications

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Speaker 2: really for both conferences AFC and NFC, and where the

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Speaker 2: Vikings find themselves as well, but until then, we also

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Speaker 2: have Monday football to look forward to and some information

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Speaker 2: from Ian Rappaport are an affirm of Bogo insider Ian.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you. So Ian Geno Smith missed some

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Speaker 2: But what's going on with the Seahawks quarterback?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Jenna Smith is dealing with a bruised to the

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Speaker 6: back of his elbow, essentially the tricep era. This according

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Speaker 6: to Pete Carroll post game, and the fact that Gino

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Speaker 6: Drew Locke is backup played most of.

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Speaker 6: She don't get back got back for the final drive.

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Speaker 6: That is a good sign. The issue here really is timing.

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Speaker 6: They have a short week they play on Thanksgiving, and

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Speaker 6: Pete Carroll said post give he simply did not know

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Speaker 6: if the back of the oubble which blew up a

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Speaker 6: Joey Bosa, the star pass rusher for the Los Angeles

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Speaker 6: went out pretty early with a foot injury, was quickly

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Speaker 6: ruled out, which is usually a bad sign. However, X

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Speaker 6: rays were negative. That is a good indication right there,

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Speaker 6: does not seem to be an achilles more likely if

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Speaker 6: foot sprain. Will see though, how severe is gonna have

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Speaker 6: going to be out. The injury not always as bad

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Speaker 6: as the reaction. I would also put Aaron Jones, these

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Speaker 6: same category, also.

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Speaker 1: Out quickly ruled out. He had a knee injury. His

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Speaker 1: reaction was also brutal. You talked to reporters post game.

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Speaker 6: He said, the initial test ruled out in ACL tear.

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Speaker 5: That is positive.

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Speaker 1: He's going to have an MRI today.

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Speaker 6: Coach Mallin for saying his belief based on their testing

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Speaker 1: The fact that.

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Speaker 6: Jones was able to get out there and stand on

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Speaker 6: the sideline that is a good thing as well. And

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Speaker 6: some non injury news. Joe Flacco, I know you guys

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Speaker 6: are looking for a Joe. I think it was Kyle

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Speaker 4: Is he busy still to come on our show?

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Speaker 2: Which plays from yesterday were so beautiful that you want

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Speaker 4: All right, Texans Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: Stroud cooking, Jay Stroud Steelers Browns. We're in Cleveland. Nick

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Speaker 2: The Browns experience right now is crazy. That's their fifth

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Speaker 5: Jim Donovan, the voice of the Browns, is their radio guy.

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Speaker 5: Awesome, awesome, awesome moment, and Jim Donovan's back in the

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Speaker 7: You're absolutely right ugly football. And I think dtr is

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Speaker 7: They're giving up the fewest amount of yards per game

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I have to credit Kevin Stefanski too.

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Speaker 1: The decision to go with the rookie quarterback is really cool.

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Speaker 1: Who cares the guy was composed was obviously the right choice.

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Speaker 1: But Peter said, there's seven and three. Can we just

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Speaker 1: They look great right now, there's seventy, so just play

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Speaker 1: The matchup couldn't be cooler. Next week, Cleveland goes to Denver.

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Speaker 1: So like we're in, We're hot, we got storylines, we

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Speaker 1: Believe so good. They're right over Houston at six and four.

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Speaker 4: In a minute. And Vegas there's just something about Vegas

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what we could be looking at a matchup

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Speaker 5: the world in the paddock and it's all the celebrities

434
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Speaker 5: and everyone's hobnobbing.

435
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl.

436
00:18:36,748 --> 00:18:38,628
Speaker 5: NFL is going to give us Cleveland and Detroit.

437
00:18:38,868 --> 00:18:41,308
Speaker 1: Yeah, WHOA?

438
00:18:41,988 --> 00:18:42,468
Speaker 4: All right?

439
00:18:42,588 --> 00:18:44,908
Speaker 2: It was Peter Schrager, I believe last week that said,

440
00:18:44,908 --> 00:18:46,108
Speaker 2: do the commanders have a guy?

441
00:18:46,428 --> 00:18:47,108
Speaker 4: And is his name?

442
00:18:47,228 --> 00:18:47,908
Speaker 1: Sam Howells?

443
00:18:47,988 --> 00:18:50,948
Speaker 2: Guy's toughest you think about it, I'm just consider it

444
00:18:51,028 --> 00:18:52,908
Speaker 2: because he's been playing great. But you know who else

445
00:18:52,908 --> 00:18:57,988
Speaker 2: said Tommy de Vito hundred thirty, I know no chicken,

446
00:18:58,028 --> 00:18:59,828
Speaker 2: harm know nothing. Don't worry, you'll see more. Timy to

447
00:18:59,868 --> 00:19:00,748
Speaker 2: veto and win.

448
00:19:00,748 --> 00:19:02,628
Speaker 7: There are a lot of interceptions about our Giants defense

449
00:19:02,668 --> 00:19:05,268
Speaker 7: in that well Buccaneer's forty nine Ers, there's Bronck Purdy

450
00:19:05,308 --> 00:19:06,708
Speaker 7: coming off that Jaguars win.

451
00:19:06,948 --> 00:19:08,188
Speaker 1: Purty is fired up.

452
00:19:08,228 --> 00:19:11,148
Speaker 7: They go on to win this one twenty seven to fourteen.

453
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Speaker 1: The forty nine Ers looked good.

454
00:19:12,628 --> 00:19:15,628
Speaker 5: Seahawks Rams remember the Rams beating the Seahawks in Seattle

455
00:19:15,668 --> 00:19:18,708
Speaker 5: Week one? Stafford and the Rams or valiant Stafford got

456
00:19:18,748 --> 00:19:21,028
Speaker 5: the crap kicked out of him also and stood there

457
00:19:21,028 --> 00:19:21,988
Speaker 5: and stood in the pocket.

458
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Speaker 1: Rams win. They're live, they are. Here's the two teams.

459
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Speaker 1: One knows how to win, one has no idea. But

460
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Speaker 1: Justin Fields is back and that's exciting and he played

461
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Speaker 1: really well. Jared Goff did not have a day yesterday.

462
00:19:32,068 --> 00:19:34,308
Speaker 1: In fact, he threw three interceptions for the first time

463
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Speaker 1: in four years. It just seemed like it wasn't his day.

464
00:19:37,268 --> 00:19:39,028
Speaker 1: It seemed like it wasn't the Lions. They just didn't

465
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Speaker 1: have it. They were flat as hell. Crowded, super disappointed,

466
00:19:41,348 --> 00:19:46,068
Speaker 1: and yet guys, inexplicably the Bears lose. Paraphrasing that guy afterwards,

467
00:19:46,068 --> 00:19:48,068
Speaker 1: he said, honestly, we should have won this game, no kidding.

468
00:19:48,428 --> 00:19:50,908
Speaker 1: Campbell gets to win again. They were kind of a

469
00:19:50,908 --> 00:19:52,788
Speaker 1: stinker and they still got the dove. That's what teams

470
00:19:52,828 --> 00:19:55,868
Speaker 1: do though, right Dan, because it's twenty six points for

471
00:19:55,908 --> 00:19:58,188
Speaker 1: the Bears was not enough. Listen, you guys want some

472
00:19:58,268 --> 00:20:00,948
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell on a Monday morning, Victorias. Afterwards, they go, oh,

473
00:20:01,148 --> 00:20:03,428
Speaker 1: it's just ear muffs here we go. Go ahead, coach.

474
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Speaker 10: The gods, which we are a resilient team. Gentlemen, we

475
00:20:12,868 --> 00:20:14,748
Speaker 10: are resilient. We gonna find a way to win a

476
00:20:14,828 --> 00:20:17,268
Speaker 10: day freak. It came out my father's but we fought

477
00:20:17,268 --> 00:20:19,108
Speaker 10: harder and we got to wear.

478
00:20:20,828 --> 00:20:23,228
Speaker 4: You really cannot make some of this stuff up. You can't.

479
00:20:23,588 --> 00:20:25,988
Speaker 2: The Lions are now winners of six of their last

480
00:20:26,028 --> 00:20:29,348
Speaker 2: seven games. They are off their second best start through

481
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Speaker 2: eleven weeks since nineteen fifty And when you were doing

482
00:20:34,548 --> 00:20:36,868
Speaker 2: that highlight, Kyle, and I had to put myself back

483
00:20:36,948 --> 00:20:39,948
Speaker 2: yesterday watching that game. They were down a dozen points

484
00:20:40,348 --> 00:20:43,108
Speaker 2: with four minutes left to play, a dozen and yet

485
00:20:43,188 --> 00:20:45,188
Speaker 2: still I don't know who that's more on, is that

486
00:20:45,228 --> 00:20:47,748
Speaker 2: the Bears the Lions. Jason, It did not look good

487
00:20:47,748 --> 00:20:50,108
Speaker 2: for fifty five minutes, but the Lions were able to

488
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Speaker 2: get it done.

489
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Speaker 7: Where do you go when you watch mentioned the Bears

490
00:20:52,548 --> 00:20:54,548
Speaker 7: don't know how to win. And one thing we always

491
00:20:54,628 --> 00:20:56,908
Speaker 7: used to say in New Englands, in order to win, you.

492
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Speaker 1: Have to keep from losing.

493
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Speaker 7: You can't make the plays or not make the plays

494
00:21:00,628 --> 00:21:02,628
Speaker 7: that lead to losing that game. And that's what the

495
00:21:02,668 --> 00:21:06,028
Speaker 7: Bears did. But give the Lions, they took advantage of it.

496
00:21:06,148 --> 00:21:08,548
Speaker 7: You talked about God that three interceptions should have four

497
00:21:08,788 --> 00:21:11,068
Speaker 7: with one being a pick six, but they dropped the ball.

498
00:21:11,268 --> 00:21:14,188
Speaker 7: It was not pretty. But show me the Lions tweet

499
00:21:14,188 --> 00:21:16,428
Speaker 7: at the end of the game of what they showed everybody.

500
00:21:16,548 --> 00:21:19,068
Speaker 7: You said it they were down twelve is that fourth

501
00:21:19,148 --> 00:21:23,028
Speaker 7: quarter and it says this win probability the Bears right there,

502
00:21:23,268 --> 00:21:27,628
Speaker 7: ninety eight percent win probability. Lions letting never out of

503
00:21:27,668 --> 00:21:30,348
Speaker 7: the fight. They were confident their team that is learning

504
00:21:30,428 --> 00:21:32,548
Speaker 7: and knowing how to win right now, and they figured

505
00:21:32,588 --> 00:21:33,388
Speaker 7: it out in that game.

506
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Speaker 5: And it's historically the Lions would find a way to

507
00:21:36,188 --> 00:21:39,388
Speaker 5: lose that that's the difference. It's the culture of the team.

508
00:21:39,388 --> 00:21:41,628
Speaker 5: It feels different. Where they get the ball, they're down twelve,

509
00:21:41,708 --> 00:21:43,828
Speaker 5: Jaman your point, and it's like it's not done yet.

510
00:21:44,108 --> 00:21:46,588
Speaker 5: This is a game that in the last forty years

511
00:21:46,628 --> 00:21:48,468
Speaker 5: the Lions would not only lose, but they would probably

512
00:21:48,468 --> 00:21:50,388
Speaker 5: come right up to that Montgomery touchdown and they lose

513
00:21:50,388 --> 00:21:51,268
Speaker 5: it that way and fumble.

514
00:21:51,308 --> 00:21:51,788
Speaker 4: All in.

515
00:21:52,308 --> 00:21:54,308
Speaker 5: This was something very interesting going on. There's like little

516
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Speaker 5: different fun pop culture zeitgeist things happening with the Lions.

517
00:21:57,788 --> 00:22:01,668
Speaker 5: You've got obviously Campbell, who everyone absolutely loves. You've got

518
00:22:01,748 --> 00:22:04,308
Speaker 5: all these different Angeloni fans with the long blonde hair.

519
00:22:04,948 --> 00:22:08,668
Speaker 5: And now there's the Jamison Williams mcflurry on a cheeseburger.

520
00:22:08,828 --> 00:22:12,068
Speaker 1: Yeah this, yes, I didn't know what that was. Jamison

521
00:22:12,108 --> 00:22:15,948
Speaker 1: Williams played awesome. This is how he eats after games.

522
00:22:16,548 --> 00:22:20,868
Speaker 5: He puts a mcflurry on top of a cheeseburger and

523
00:22:20,908 --> 00:22:21,708
Speaker 5: he eats them together.

524
00:22:21,788 --> 00:22:23,268
Speaker 1: It's taking off in Detroit.

525
00:22:23,468 --> 00:22:26,908
Speaker 5: Detroit fans we're sharing all their photos of them celebrating.

526
00:22:27,148 --> 00:22:32,308
Speaker 5: There's ketchup, there's ice cream, there's Fixin's, there's cheese, there's meat. Jamie,

527
00:22:32,388 --> 00:22:34,828
Speaker 5: all due respect to the Friday food mashup. You have

528
00:22:34,868 --> 00:22:38,708
Speaker 5: been trump carded by this guy right here, Jamison Williams,

529
00:22:38,388 --> 00:22:40,748
Speaker 5: I kind of am in and thanksgivings coming up, and

530
00:22:40,788 --> 00:22:43,868
Speaker 5: I'm not a huge dry turkey guy. May I suggest

531
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Speaker 5: we bring in, yes, some mashups from Detroit. A little

532
00:22:48,068 --> 00:22:50,788
Speaker 5: mcflurry on a cheeseburger with ketchup and mustard and all.

533
00:22:51,028 --> 00:22:55,428
Speaker 2: On Thursday morning is a Thursday takedown of the cheeseburger

534
00:22:55,468 --> 00:22:57,068
Speaker 2: with the mcflury on top and the Oreo.

535
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Speaker 4: He's a genius.

536
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Speaker 1: I am in, Peter, Yes, yeah, he Jamie points out

537
00:23:00,028 --> 00:23:02,588
Speaker 1: the important distation. It's not an eminem mcflurry, it is

538
00:23:02,628 --> 00:23:04,708
Speaker 1: the Oreoley. Jason.

539
00:23:06,028 --> 00:23:08,588
Speaker 7: Yeah, you're in that absolutely.

540
00:23:08,628 --> 00:23:11,028
Speaker 2: And I'm not about the condiments, but if mcclury is

541
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Speaker 2: considered a.

542
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Speaker 7: Condiment to be young again, one of the fastest players

543
00:23:14,428 --> 00:23:17,908
Speaker 7: in the sport, Yes, Peter, and I drank pepsi with

544
00:23:17,948 --> 00:23:18,628
Speaker 7: hot sauce in it.

545
00:23:18,748 --> 00:23:21,388
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I was out on that. Sure,

546
00:23:21,548 --> 00:23:24,108
Speaker 1: you mentioned the improbability. I don't know if I'm going

547
00:23:24,148 --> 00:23:26,428
Speaker 1: to be in on that. You're going to be in

548
00:23:26,428 --> 00:23:28,748
Speaker 1: on that, well, you brought it up, Yes, you are,

549
00:23:29,348 --> 00:23:32,988
Speaker 1: all right, So listen, these stats come up since the merger. Okay,

550
00:23:33,068 --> 00:23:36,268
Speaker 1: talk about it. There have been sixty one times they

551
00:23:36,268 --> 00:23:38,228
Speaker 1: counted them up where a team holds the ball for

552
00:23:38,228 --> 00:23:41,988
Speaker 1: forty minutes and has four takeaways. The Bears did that yesterday.

553
00:23:42,148 --> 00:23:44,708
Speaker 1: They are the first team ever to lose in regulation.

554
00:23:44,828 --> 00:23:47,748
Speaker 1: Has never happened for only lost losses and overtime, and

555
00:23:47,828 --> 00:23:51,188
Speaker 1: yet the win is in the content consumers. What have

556
00:23:51,268 --> 00:23:53,908
Speaker 1: I said over the next couple of months, The most

557
00:23:53,948 --> 00:23:56,948
Speaker 1: underrated storyline by far is what Justin Field's relationship is

558
00:23:56,948 --> 00:24:00,268
Speaker 1: going to be with Chicago Bears. And yesterday was perfect

559
00:24:00,628 --> 00:24:05,148
Speaker 1: for that quagmire of situation, meaning he played really well

560
00:24:05,348 --> 00:24:09,068
Speaker 1: and they lost. Guys, they're gonna have the number one pick.

561
00:24:09,108 --> 00:24:11,948
Speaker 1: I think again, there are quarterbacks to be had. There

562
00:24:11,988 --> 00:24:15,428
Speaker 1: are a lot. Are they sticking with Justin Fields? Again?

563
00:24:16,028 --> 00:24:18,468
Speaker 1: He's six and twenty six as a starter? All right?

564
00:24:18,828 --> 00:24:21,908
Speaker 1: So I tweeted this out yesterday, splashy game by Fields

565
00:24:21,908 --> 00:24:23,468
Speaker 1: and they lose. I still have no idea what their

566
00:24:23,508 --> 00:24:25,188
Speaker 1: future is, and I don't think the Bears do either.

567
00:24:25,588 --> 00:24:29,188
Speaker 1: People are pissed that loss wasn't about Fields, that Fields

568
00:24:29,228 --> 00:24:31,428
Speaker 1: was great, Guys, I know that it's bigger things that

569
00:24:31,508 --> 00:24:34,108
Speaker 1: work here. They're gonna be sitting there looking at these

570
00:24:34,188 --> 00:24:37,868
Speaker 1: quote unquote generational quarterback prospects and looking to either a

571
00:24:37,988 --> 00:24:41,708
Speaker 1: pass on them or inexplicably trade the number one overall

572
00:24:41,748 --> 00:24:44,108
Speaker 1: pick for the second year in a row. Are you

573
00:24:44,308 --> 00:24:46,188
Speaker 1: sure that you want to stick with him? I don't

574
00:24:46,228 --> 00:24:48,188
Speaker 1: think the Bears, no, I don't think. I know he

575
00:24:48,228 --> 00:24:51,108
Speaker 1: played his way into the future to yesterday won for one,

576
00:24:51,428 --> 00:24:53,588
Speaker 1: but he's got several more games to do it. I

577
00:24:53,588 --> 00:24:55,708
Speaker 1: think if he is bad, I think they're gonna move

578
00:24:55,708 --> 00:24:57,708
Speaker 1: on and take a quarterback. If he plays like we

579
00:24:57,748 --> 00:24:59,708
Speaker 1: did yesterday and they lose the rest of their games,

580
00:24:59,828 --> 00:25:01,668
Speaker 1: they're not drafting a quarterback. They're not gonna do it.

581
00:25:01,788 --> 00:25:05,748
Speaker 1: This organization is old fashioned. They are stubborn. They will

582
00:25:05,788 --> 00:25:07,748
Speaker 1: try to make this work. If he plays like that,

583
00:25:08,028 --> 00:25:10,348
Speaker 1: it's just nuts. Just watch this every single week because

584
00:25:10,348 --> 00:25:11,748
Speaker 1: he's gonna be good and they're gonna be bad, and

585
00:25:11,788 --> 00:25:12,748
Speaker 1: I don't know where it comes.

586
00:25:12,548 --> 00:25:15,508
Speaker 2: Out, and the content king continues. It's amazing, it is

587
00:25:16,108 --> 00:25:19,428
Speaker 2: so good, it's so awkward, and the Panthers continue to lose,

588
00:25:19,428 --> 00:25:21,228
Speaker 2: which that's that's where the pick lies.

589
00:25:21,268 --> 00:25:23,308
Speaker 4: So that's where we have to exactly.

590
00:25:23,068 --> 00:25:24,748
Speaker 1: Ohly got the pants like very low to the picks.

591
00:25:24,788 --> 00:25:26,388
Speaker 1: They're not gonna spend either of them at a quarterback

592
00:25:26,428 --> 00:25:27,988
Speaker 1: is sick with they got six and twenty six. I

593
00:25:28,068 --> 00:25:29,908
Speaker 1: like them, you like them, but it's a little weird. Guys.

594
00:25:30,148 --> 00:25:31,788
Speaker 2: Sometimes you have to say, like, come on, let's get

595
00:25:31,828 --> 00:25:35,388
Speaker 2: hype about draft content that not this year again again,

596
00:25:35,748 --> 00:25:41,388
Speaker 2: all right, coming up, things are starting to unfold, unfurral, deteriorate,

597
00:25:41,468 --> 00:25:42,188
Speaker 2: what do you want to call it?

598
00:25:42,388 --> 00:25:44,468
Speaker 1: Speaking of quarterback play and home.

599
00:25:44,348 --> 00:25:46,428
Speaker 4: My yeah, justin Herbert and the Chargers.

600
00:25:46,588 --> 00:25:49,308
Speaker 2: Staley has some things to say too, highlights for that game.

601
00:25:50,588 --> 00:25:52,548
Speaker 1: You don't need to ask you that question anymore.

602
00:26:03,308 --> 00:26:07,428
Speaker 2: Good morning. Let's just bring in rapport now because we

603
00:26:07,468 --> 00:26:09,588
Speaker 2: have to talk about this. So we saw Zach Wilson

604
00:26:09,628 --> 00:26:12,308
Speaker 2: get benched. As we mentioned in the second half, they're

605
00:26:12,308 --> 00:26:14,708
Speaker 2: in a short week. They have the Black Friday game

606
00:26:14,828 --> 00:26:18,108
Speaker 2: on Prime Sports against the Dolphins.

607
00:26:18,748 --> 00:26:20,508
Speaker 4: Who are we going to see on Friday afternoon in

608
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Speaker 4: New York.

609
00:26:20,988 --> 00:26:23,548
Speaker 6: No, Robert sal was asked that exact question, and as

610
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Speaker 6: he has defended Zach Wilson really the entire season, both

611
00:26:27,308 --> 00:26:30,468
Speaker 6: publicly and privately, we need decline to offer Carson Wentz

612
00:26:30,468 --> 00:26:34,428
Speaker 6: a contract. Before last week, this was a little different.

613
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Speaker 6: Instead of the defensive Zach Wilson.

614
00:26:36,308 --> 00:26:37,908
Speaker 7: Saying, you know, he gives us our best chance.

615
00:26:38,068 --> 00:26:38,948
Speaker 1: We're gonna work with Zach.

616
00:26:38,948 --> 00:26:42,068
Speaker 6: We're gonna rally behind Zach. It was there's been no decision,

617
00:26:42,108 --> 00:26:44,468
Speaker 6: and generally, as we have seen this year, when a

618
00:26:44,508 --> 00:26:46,588
Speaker 6: coach stands with the podium and says I have no

619
00:26:46,668 --> 00:26:49,068
Speaker 6: decision on my starter, a lot of times that means

620
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Speaker 6: a new starter. I'm not saying it's going to be

621
00:26:51,028 --> 00:26:54,548
Speaker 6: Timboyle on Monday against Miami Dolphins. But for the first time,

622
00:26:54,988 --> 00:26:57,828
Speaker 6: Robert Saal at least opened the door to a potential

623
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Speaker 6: QB change. And honestly, it's upsetting for Zach Wilson, but

624
00:27:02,108 --> 00:27:04,548
Speaker 6: it makes sense. I mean, at this point, we have

625
00:27:04,628 --> 00:27:07,428
Speaker 6: seen a lot of Zach Wilson, the struggles that have continued.

626
00:27:07,468 --> 00:27:10,428
Speaker 6: The talent we know just hasn't been the production I

627
00:27:10,468 --> 00:27:13,268
Speaker 6: think for if the Jets do decide to make a

628
00:27:13,348 --> 00:27:15,948
Speaker 6: change in quarterback, at least that's something the fans could

629
00:27:16,028 --> 00:27:18,788
Speaker 6: rally behind during what could potentially be a tough game

630
00:27:18,868 --> 00:27:21,908
Speaker 6: on Friday. And of course, the backdrop of all this

631
00:27:22,148 --> 00:27:25,708
Speaker 6: is the Aaron Rodgers potential comeback, and Rodgers said on

632
00:27:25,748 --> 00:27:28,068
Speaker 6: The Pat mccavie Show pretty recently that he wants to

633
00:27:28,108 --> 00:27:31,228
Speaker 6: come back and envisions to come back mid December. My

634
00:27:31,428 --> 00:27:34,068
Speaker 6: understanding is the most likely time for him to come

635
00:27:34,108 --> 00:27:36,748
Speaker 6: back would be that December twenty fourth game, which Kyle,

636
00:27:36,868 --> 00:27:40,268
Speaker 6: you've mentioned that as a potential target plenty of times.

637
00:27:40,588 --> 00:27:41,468
Speaker 1: My understanding is that.

638
00:27:41,508 --> 00:27:44,548
Speaker 6: Is the target, and for Rogers, he is expected to

639
00:27:44,588 --> 00:27:48,628
Speaker 6: get cleared if the Jets are still in the playoff hunt,

640
00:27:48,628 --> 00:27:51,668
Speaker 6: if they are still alive, and if he can protect himself,

641
00:27:51,668 --> 00:27:53,708
Speaker 6: I would expect him to be out on the field.

642
00:27:53,788 --> 00:27:57,108
Speaker 6: This is real, this is viable. We just don't know

643
00:27:57,148 --> 00:27:59,748
Speaker 6: if the Jets, record wise, are actually going to get

644
00:27:59,788 --> 00:28:00,748
Speaker 6: there to make this happen.

645
00:28:01,388 --> 00:28:02,588
Speaker 4: Now, Ian, thank you so much.

646
00:28:02,668 --> 00:28:05,028
Speaker 2: Now, as we pivot to this Jets conversation, let's just

647
00:28:05,068 --> 00:28:07,548
Speaker 2: take a look at the AFC playoff picture once again.

648
00:28:07,548 --> 00:28:08,068
Speaker 4: I know we have it.

649
00:28:08,148 --> 00:28:10,108
Speaker 2: Where do we stand with the Jets for the rest

650
00:28:10,148 --> 00:28:12,828
Speaker 2: of the season, Because, as we have talked about mentioned

651
00:28:12,948 --> 00:28:17,148
Speaker 2: at nauseum, they made a decision to stick with this situation, Jason,

652
00:28:17,268 --> 00:28:20,068
Speaker 2: and now they find themselves on the bottom right corner

653
00:28:20,108 --> 00:28:23,308
Speaker 2: of our AFC playoff picture screen, which is the lurking column,

654
00:28:23,348 --> 00:28:25,028
Speaker 2: which is not where Aaron Rodgers wanted to be.

655
00:28:25,108 --> 00:28:27,188
Speaker 7: Upon his return, and that's kind of where Rogers is

656
00:28:27,308 --> 00:28:28,348
Speaker 7: right now, where he's lurking.

657
00:28:28,388 --> 00:28:28,908
Speaker 1: He's lurking.

658
00:28:28,948 --> 00:28:31,508
Speaker 7: We keep talking about his return, and obviously that's a

659
00:28:31,548 --> 00:28:33,748
Speaker 7: little bit more contingent on where the Jets are as

660
00:28:33,748 --> 00:28:36,148
Speaker 7: they're sitting at four and six. To your point, Jamie

661
00:28:36,188 --> 00:28:37,428
Speaker 7: all the way on that right column.

662
00:28:37,548 --> 00:28:40,308
Speaker 1: Can I make a suggestion, but we may need another column,

663
00:28:40,428 --> 00:28:43,228
Speaker 1: like the Chargers ain't lurking right now? We need we

664
00:28:43,228 --> 00:28:45,788
Speaker 1: need a column. Just says nah, like yeah, and maybe

665
00:28:45,788 --> 00:28:47,788
Speaker 1: you can get promoted to lurking. But we're giving the

666
00:28:47,868 --> 00:28:51,308
Speaker 1: huge compliments of the Jets and Chargers and for lurking. Yeah,

667
00:28:51,628 --> 00:28:53,788
Speaker 1: I think we need a NAC column and ah, can

668
00:28:53,828 --> 00:28:54,468
Speaker 1: we please do that?

669
00:28:54,548 --> 00:28:56,148
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm with you on that. They don't have the

670
00:28:56,188 --> 00:28:58,148
Speaker 7: same vibe as some of those other teams, right, and

671
00:28:58,228 --> 00:29:01,068
Speaker 7: that lurking column where kind of on the upward trajectory.

672
00:29:01,308 --> 00:29:02,868
Speaker 7: But as you look at the Jets and you say, a, right,

673
00:29:02,868 --> 00:29:05,108
Speaker 7: where do they go from here? The offense has been

674
00:29:05,268 --> 00:29:08,308
Speaker 7: historically bad. They were zero four eleven on third down

675
00:29:08,388 --> 00:29:11,548
Speaker 7: yesterday and they didn't convert, not one third down. You

676
00:29:11,588 --> 00:29:14,628
Speaker 7: look at that right now, they're twenty three percent they're

677
00:29:14,668 --> 00:29:16,668
Speaker 7: on pace. I have the worst third down percenta since

678
00:29:16,748 --> 00:29:17,788
Speaker 7: nineteen seventy two.

679
00:29:18,068 --> 00:29:18,868
Speaker 1: It's been a business.

680
00:29:18,868 --> 00:29:21,028
Speaker 7: When they had their first touchdown on offense in forty

681
00:29:21,028 --> 00:29:23,508
Speaker 7: one drives. And now you're going from Zach Wilson to

682
00:29:23,588 --> 00:29:26,148
Speaker 7: possibly Tim Boyle, who doesn't have a track record of

683
00:29:26,188 --> 00:29:29,068
Speaker 7: anything of an NFL quarterback. So as I'm looking at

684
00:29:29,068 --> 00:29:31,148
Speaker 7: the Jets and we keep talking about Aaron Rodgers his

685
00:29:31,268 --> 00:29:34,788
Speaker 7: return in Christmas, at what point for Aaron Rodgers do

686
00:29:34,828 --> 00:29:36,548
Speaker 7: you say it's kind of a wash and what would

687
00:29:36,588 --> 00:29:38,828
Speaker 7: be the point of coming back? I think yesterday you

688
00:29:38,908 --> 00:29:41,548
Speaker 7: saw the tipping point of frustrations with the Jets defense,

689
00:29:41,668 --> 00:29:44,548
Speaker 7: which has been unbelievable throughout these last few weeks as

690
00:29:44,548 --> 00:29:47,468
Speaker 7: an offensive struggle to keep them in games. We watched

691
00:29:47,468 --> 00:29:50,988
Speaker 7: Offs Gardener's suplex Stefan Diggs, we watched them give up

692
00:29:50,988 --> 00:29:53,628
Speaker 7: a ton of points and that hasn't really happened this season.

693
00:29:53,868 --> 00:29:56,428
Speaker 7: But a defense can only hold on for so long

694
00:29:56,468 --> 00:29:59,028
Speaker 7: of being able to continue to hold opponents hold opponents

695
00:29:59,028 --> 00:30:00,788
Speaker 7: when the offense isn't holding up their end of the

696
00:30:00,828 --> 00:30:03,028
Speaker 7: bargain or just three and out three and out, the

697
00:30:03,028 --> 00:30:05,508
Speaker 7: defense eventually tires out. So for this Jet team, I

698
00:30:05,548 --> 00:30:07,348
Speaker 7: don't really know where they can go. I don't know

699
00:30:07,628 --> 00:30:09,748
Speaker 7: Tim Boyle coming in if he's able to save the

700
00:30:09,828 --> 00:30:11,468
Speaker 7: day and they're able to do more on offense. So

701
00:30:11,788 --> 00:30:13,748
Speaker 7: it's a struggle. I don't know that we see Aaron

702
00:30:13,828 --> 00:30:14,588
Speaker 7: Rodgers this year.

703
00:30:14,788 --> 00:30:17,228
Speaker 5: That's an interesting take that all that lead up to

704
00:30:17,268 --> 00:30:19,348
Speaker 5: that last sentence, You don't think we see Rogers.

705
00:30:19,388 --> 00:30:19,468
Speaker 1: No.

706
00:30:19,788 --> 00:30:23,468
Speaker 7: I think for me personally, the torn Achilles him coming back,

707
00:30:23,468 --> 00:30:27,028
Speaker 7: even if they were rolling right now was I think all.

708
00:30:26,668 --> 00:30:29,508
Speaker 5: This conjecture, all these stories, everything we hear Ian you

709
00:30:29,588 --> 00:30:32,268
Speaker 5: know every Sunday, and Jake Glazer every Sunday and all

710
00:30:32,268 --> 00:30:34,988
Speaker 5: of us. You're saying Christy as an ex player, Like,

711
00:30:35,108 --> 00:30:35,628
Speaker 5: I don't see it.

712
00:30:35,668 --> 00:30:38,188
Speaker 7: I don't see I think that that that is that

713
00:30:38,388 --> 00:30:40,348
Speaker 7: is very very hard to do. And I'm not trying

714
00:30:40,388 --> 00:30:44,028
Speaker 7: to say Aaron Rodgers and but it's just that's very

715
00:30:44,028 --> 00:30:45,268
Speaker 7: hard for me to believe that he was going to

716
00:30:45,308 --> 00:30:46,748
Speaker 7: be able to come back. And everything we saw in

717
00:30:46,748 --> 00:30:50,548
Speaker 7: the pregames looked awesome. It's totally different of reacting and people.

718
00:30:50,908 --> 00:30:53,148
Speaker 5: I only put you in the blender on that because

719
00:30:53,708 --> 00:30:56,668
Speaker 5: guys in my role, guys in Kyle's roll, guys like

720
00:30:56,908 --> 00:30:59,508
Speaker 5: guys in Gallazan Dan, We're all like it. And yet

721
00:30:59,668 --> 00:31:02,268
Speaker 5: two men, every ex player I talked to seems to

722
00:31:02,268 --> 00:31:03,228
Speaker 5: be like that ain't happening.

723
00:31:03,468 --> 00:31:04,108
Speaker 1: It ain't happening.

724
00:31:04,668 --> 00:31:06,468
Speaker 5: And that might be a physical thing that you guys

725
00:31:06,468 --> 00:31:08,148
Speaker 5: have been through it and you guys have seen enough Achilles,

726
00:31:08,188 --> 00:31:10,108
Speaker 5: But like, I still think it will and I think

727
00:31:10,108 --> 00:31:12,748
Speaker 5: it's going to be an interesting deal if they're out

728
00:31:12,788 --> 00:31:16,348
Speaker 5: of contention and they're already looking at twenty twenty five

729
00:31:16,628 --> 00:31:19,268
Speaker 5: or twenty twenty four. Sorry, and Rogers is like, I

730
00:31:19,308 --> 00:31:21,028
Speaker 5: want to play, and is anyone going to be in

731
00:31:21,068 --> 00:31:22,508
Speaker 5: that building to say you're not playing?

732
00:31:23,148 --> 00:31:25,268
Speaker 1: That's where it's going to be. I've worked my way

733
00:31:25,308 --> 00:31:26,988
Speaker 1: back to this. I have worked at this crazy pace.

734
00:31:27,228 --> 00:31:27,988
Speaker 1: I am good to go.

735
00:31:28,268 --> 00:31:31,308
Speaker 5: I'm playing, And from what we've gathered, they haven't said

736
00:31:31,348 --> 00:31:33,828
Speaker 5: no to Rogers about much. Is there going to be

737
00:31:33,868 --> 00:31:36,948
Speaker 5: somebody there in the building as I actually know, we're

738
00:31:36,948 --> 00:31:38,508
Speaker 5: going to make you wait another eight months to get

739
00:31:38,548 --> 00:31:40,788
Speaker 5: back on the field. That's what's going to be fascinating,

740
00:31:40,788 --> 00:31:42,548
Speaker 5: because I think it's fair to say they're probably not

741
00:31:42,708 --> 00:31:45,148
Speaker 5: rattling off a bunch of victories right now.

742
00:31:45,188 --> 00:31:47,348
Speaker 1: Well, I think I have it I've been sticking to

743
00:31:47,388 --> 00:31:49,708
Speaker 1: this December twenty fourth game. They play the Commanders at

744
00:31:49,708 --> 00:31:52,188
Speaker 1: home on December twenty fourth. It's week sixteen of the

745
00:31:52,268 --> 00:31:55,428
Speaker 1: NFL season. Right now, they're four and six. Jason's talking

746
00:31:55,428 --> 00:31:57,908
Speaker 1: about could he possibly do it physically. I'm more interested

747
00:31:57,948 --> 00:31:59,908
Speaker 1: in the is there anything left of the Jets if

748
00:31:59,908 --> 00:32:01,468
Speaker 1: you were to I think you have to go three

749
00:32:01,548 --> 00:32:03,548
Speaker 1: and one over the next four games, three and one,

750
00:32:03,628 --> 00:32:05,628
Speaker 1: which is a lot. So you go three and one

751
00:32:05,628 --> 00:32:08,308
Speaker 1: from here on out. You are seven and seven at

752
00:32:08,308 --> 00:32:11,668
Speaker 1: a home game against the Commanders, Rogers plays it's a miracle,

753
00:32:11,708 --> 00:32:14,828
Speaker 1: it's Christ touching lepers like we did it. Oh my god,

754
00:32:14,868 --> 00:32:16,948
Speaker 1: he's back. I think they have to go three and one.

755
00:32:17,028 --> 00:32:19,668
Speaker 1: So they got Miami, Atlanta, Houston, Miami again. You gotta

756
00:32:19,708 --> 00:32:21,508
Speaker 1: beat the Dolphins at least once. And this is with

757
00:32:21,628 --> 00:32:26,188
Speaker 1: this like Trevor Boyles, Simeon Wilson, whatever the hell, Franken

758
00:32:26,268 --> 00:32:28,548
Speaker 1: quarterback you're gonna put out there. You gotta get three

759
00:32:28,548 --> 00:32:31,188
Speaker 1: wins over the next month or Rogers is gonna completely

760
00:32:31,228 --> 00:32:33,828
Speaker 1: waste this effort of coming back, whether it's real or not,

761
00:32:33,988 --> 00:32:35,828
Speaker 1: because you're coming back in the team's five and ten

762
00:32:35,908 --> 00:32:36,108
Speaker 1: ors long.

763
00:32:36,188 --> 00:32:39,028
Speaker 5: Also, the offensive line is a miserable, terrible, like, I

764
00:32:39,068 --> 00:32:41,148
Speaker 5: don't know who's getting anything done. And I guess to

765
00:32:41,148 --> 00:32:42,948
Speaker 5: me giving a past to Zach Wilson, but you're watching

766
00:32:43,108 --> 00:32:44,548
Speaker 5: all season off season, it was do they have a

767
00:32:44,548 --> 00:32:45,228
Speaker 5: backup quarterback?

768
00:32:45,268 --> 00:32:45,988
Speaker 1: Apparently they don't.

769
00:32:46,108 --> 00:32:48,148
Speaker 5: Do they have an offensive line that can back up

770
00:32:48,188 --> 00:32:49,988
Speaker 5: of one of these veteran guys who's thirty six, thirty

771
00:32:49,988 --> 00:32:50,508
Speaker 5: seven years old?

772
00:32:50,548 --> 00:32:52,388
Speaker 1: Daye Brown goes down? They haven't. I don't think they

773
00:32:52,388 --> 00:32:54,068
Speaker 1: don't think he cares all For years, all we've talked

774
00:32:54,108 --> 00:32:55,828
Speaker 1: about is can Rogers get back to the super Bowl?

775
00:32:56,188 --> 00:32:59,188
Speaker 1: This is his super Bowl? I think playing back field

776
00:32:59,348 --> 00:33:01,788
Speaker 1: is his super Bowl. I think it means everything to him.

777
00:33:01,828 --> 00:33:03,988
Speaker 1: But you can't let him take the field if you're

778
00:33:04,068 --> 00:33:06,228
Speaker 1: not in the playoffs. And someone says no to Okay,

779
00:33:06,308 --> 00:33:06,628
Speaker 1: I don't know.

780
00:33:06,748 --> 00:33:07,348
Speaker 4: I have a question.

781
00:33:07,508 --> 00:33:09,868
Speaker 2: You're getting us to seven and seven and Rogers returning

782
00:33:09,908 --> 00:33:11,788
Speaker 2: to the field, then he has to win the next

783
00:33:11,868 --> 00:33:12,268
Speaker 2: three games.

784
00:33:12,308 --> 00:33:13,868
Speaker 4: So who are they playing in the final three?

785
00:33:14,068 --> 00:33:16,588
Speaker 1: Cleveland, New England? Like they'll they'll figure it. I didn't think.

786
00:33:17,308 --> 00:33:19,188
Speaker 5: I think the playoffs is even a conversation. I think

787
00:33:19,228 --> 00:33:21,228
Speaker 5: it's ken Rodgers play.

788
00:33:21,348 --> 00:33:23,508
Speaker 1: Yes, all right, Rogers might even want to play if

789
00:33:23,508 --> 00:33:25,428
Speaker 1: they're out of playoff contention, Rightn'd be like, no, you're

790
00:33:25,468 --> 00:33:28,148
Speaker 1: not playing. I need to come back this season. We're out.

791
00:33:28,548 --> 00:33:29,708
Speaker 1: We're living it. I don't care.

792
00:33:30,428 --> 00:33:33,068
Speaker 7: I can if he feels he's healthy enough. I mean,

793
00:33:33,108 --> 00:33:35,188
Speaker 7: we'll be talking about that for a very long time.

794
00:33:35,228 --> 00:33:37,148
Speaker 7: The fact that he came back with a torn achilles

795
00:33:37,148 --> 00:33:37,948
Speaker 7: in the same season.

796
00:33:38,108 --> 00:33:40,028
Speaker 2: You've got to send Schregger back out to training camp

797
00:33:40,068 --> 00:33:41,988
Speaker 2: to get another Aaron Rodgers interview, and it's just.

798
00:33:41,988 --> 00:33:45,748
Speaker 5: All gonna start on Russell Wilson, Jersey praising Sean Payton.

799
00:33:45,788 --> 00:33:47,908
Speaker 1: I'll go interview Hackett in the Rogers. I think Russe

800
00:33:47,948 --> 00:33:50,228
Speaker 1: and Rodgers are very close overwell, we're.

801
00:33:50,108 --> 00:33:52,468
Speaker 2: Counting down the days to Yeah, that j just games

802
00:33:52,468 --> 00:33:54,948
Speaker 2: on the day after thanksgim but think about the day

803
00:33:54,988 --> 00:33:58,548
Speaker 2: before the John Madden Thanksgiving celebration. You can watch Packers

804
00:33:58,588 --> 00:34:02,388
Speaker 2: Lions twelve thirty pm Eastern on Fox, Manners, Cowboys, Turkey's

805
00:34:02,548 --> 00:34:05,028
Speaker 2: Just Coming out of the Oven four thirty pm on CBS,

806
00:34:05,228 --> 00:34:08,708
Speaker 2: and then finish off with Like a Glass or whatever

807
00:34:09,108 --> 00:34:11,508
Speaker 2: forty nine or Seahawks eight twenty pm on NBC.

808
00:34:11,628 --> 00:34:13,428
Speaker 4: I didn't want to put anybody at a court were.

809
00:34:13,468 --> 00:34:15,668
Speaker 1: Ready to start having to take that the Turkey. Turkey

810
00:34:15,748 --> 00:34:17,068
Speaker 1: is trash and it's just like the worst.

811
00:34:16,988 --> 00:34:19,828
Speaker 4: They started as if we don't even have watched everything.

812
00:34:19,828 --> 00:34:21,628
Speaker 1: Come on over to the ham family. Guys called the

813
00:34:21,628 --> 00:34:23,988
Speaker 1: Hamley It's delicious right by the way.

814
00:34:23,908 --> 00:34:26,068
Speaker 5: The Jets with that center with the mustache. I said

815
00:34:26,068 --> 00:34:29,628
Speaker 5: that in August. Connor, Yeah, there wasn't an network here

816
00:34:29,668 --> 00:34:32,428
Speaker 5: we go kick things off here an NFL network seven am,

817
00:34:32,468 --> 00:34:35,428
Speaker 5: Good Morning Football, ten am NFL Game Day morning. Eisen

818
00:34:35,468 --> 00:34:37,308
Speaker 5: and the Boys are going to be in that Turkey

819
00:34:37,548 --> 00:34:39,588
Speaker 5: and then sure enough end of the day, thought, because

820
00:34:39,908 --> 00:34:42,388
Speaker 5: all the footage and then guess what Friday morning will

821
00:34:42,428 --> 00:34:45,868
Speaker 5: be a little uh.

822
00:34:44,468 --> 00:34:48,588
Speaker 1: What's the word hungover? I don't know what you want

823
00:34:48,628 --> 00:34:49,748
Speaker 1: me to live from here? That's what I'll be.

824
00:34:50,828 --> 00:34:50,948
Speaker 9: No.

825
00:34:51,468 --> 00:34:53,908
Speaker 2: Tommy Devido feeling himself after the day he had against

826
00:34:53,948 --> 00:34:56,388
Speaker 2: the Commanders, are going to break down his performance.

827
00:34:55,948 --> 00:34:59,508
Speaker 1: Later on Tommy d and speaking of Rickie quarterbacks, c J.

828
00:34:59,628 --> 00:35:02,148
Speaker 1: Stroud kind of sort of compared himself to Steph Curry

829
00:35:02,148 --> 00:35:03,668
Speaker 1: and it was a really cool SoundBite through a lot

830
00:35:03,708 --> 00:35:07,028
Speaker 1: of interceptions. Still, what is he still in the MVAP campaign.

831
00:35:07,508 --> 00:35:12,988
Speaker 1: Let's talk about it. M