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Speaker 1: Father Thursday? Tod Father Thursday. We'll have Tod Father on Friday, Friday.

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Speaker 1: Apparently I said something wrong already. It's been ten seconds.

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Speaker 2: That was the fire shark.

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Speaker 1: Damn, I did speed today. Guilty.

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Speaker 2: You look amazing. Here we go again.

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Speaker 3: Your cortisol levels, you're you just look you're beaming. Your

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Speaker 1: This guy went well eighty one hours.

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Speaker 2: You went eighty one.

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Speaker 1: You do look good.

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Speaker 2: Look I feel good. I feel great. In a week.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I haven't eaten any grease. Now you don't know

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Speaker 4: your numbers. Three and a half days. I haven't eaten

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Speaker 4: any grease, nothing, No sugar is nothing. I'm feeling good.

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Speaker 1: The hardest part, right is slimming.

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Speaker 2: You look great? Yeah, thank you appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: What was the hardest part, krat said, eating.

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Speaker 2: From from like two to four pm, two to five.

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Speaker 4: They're like you get that crave of like just go

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Speaker 2: That's all.

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Speaker 1: That's incredible. I don't have that kind of discipline, but

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Speaker 4: Eighty one hour so I and I believe in myself

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Speaker 4: I could have done more, but.

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Speaker 2: I was like, all right, let me just try.

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Speaker 4: And I had two eggs and an avocado my first meal,

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Speaker 4: and I'm like, all I kind of miss it a

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Speaker 4: surely and now I got my wife's cousin, who's a

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Speaker 2: I like it.

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Speaker 1: Hey, maybe you'll be on survivor that what it takes.

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Speaker 2: Listen, you don't want me on survive.

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Speaker 4: I don't eating, okay, but trying to survive out there

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Speaker 1: A couple of things, So, first off, Happy Arbitration Exchange

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Speaker 1: Day to those who celebrate. Like I mentioned, unfair territory.

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Speaker 1: I was on fair with Ken. It's great. So if

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Speaker 1: you want to check that out later, maybe we'll get

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Speaker 1: Number two over the next couple hours, if you can

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Speaker 1: and vote for our boy, Kevin Palar. He is currently

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Speaker 1: So we even put the QR code up on the screen.

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Speaker 1: will probably be done by then. But if you're in

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Speaker 2: It's real.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what do you define as real? Like keeps asking,

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Speaker 4: This conversation, I said, Cooper, I thought somebody was like

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Speaker 1: It isn't made up.

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Speaker 4: Oh like it doesn't go through MLB or anything. No,

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Speaker 1: But wait, but I don't care. Why did they get

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Speaker 4: post that on my wall. Hall Pretty Good?

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Speaker 1: I guess you know, like, yeah, Todd father's posting fines,

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Speaker 2: To wait? What?

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Speaker 1: We're the same generation. I just said to Todd before

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Speaker 1: I am definitely not in the everyone gets a metal generation. No, No, I'm.

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Speaker 3: With that with that pullover, you got it going on

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Speaker 3: the podcast people, you need to check out the show.

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Speaker 3: Scott has got his Christmas, his Christmas Carnigiate on that

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Speaker 3: is you are you're old school with that.

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Speaker 1: I spend a lot of time in Florida. When I don't,

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Speaker 1: Anyway. My motto, if you're not first, your last, So

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Speaker 1: So we'll be hanging. We'll play a little poker.

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Speaker 2: I heard he's a good poker player too.

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Speaker 1: I did too. I heard you're good too, specifically in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: I heard you're good like you have this home there.

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Speaker 1: Locked because you've hit singers there. You know that air.

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Speaker 3: It in your new lifestyle change to have some ruby

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Speaker 1: Will Salmon covers the Mets for the Athletic among other teams,

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Speaker 4: They won back to back in this team, I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: For sure.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think we can debate where he's the

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Speaker 1: Why is he choosing the Mets? And I've actually covered

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: I grew up in the area. So you're you're a

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Speaker 4: And you got and you got to know how to

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Speaker 3: And you're you're you're outward. You you express how you feel.

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Speaker 4: He must be doing it, and all of a sudden

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Speaker 4: it's harder. I think Kyle Tucker could. I think he

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Speaker 1: He can handle it. The question is, if given similar offers,

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Speaker 4: I mean, well, then money comes into place, and then

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Speaker 1: on the Mets, Mets Up the show, the podcast, go

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Speaker 1: which is are the Mets really good enough? Because team

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Speaker 2: Show me the money.

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Speaker 1: Every time we play that, I think of how it

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Speaker 2: No, what never is.

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Speaker 4: And you're a starter now and you're believed to be

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure.

439
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Speaker 4: I'm not sure, but that would have to be where

440
00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,159
Speaker 4: I'm at in my career. Is it the late stages

441
00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,800
Speaker 4: or and the and the the option for next year.

442
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,080
Speaker 2: Would have to come into play.

443
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Speaker 4: It would have to be a player option in my opinion, right,

444
00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:28,400
Speaker 4: you're not doing two.

445
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Speaker 2: I'm not.

446
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,080
Speaker 4: I would do it one year with a player option

447
00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,720
Speaker 4: for for the next year after the club options. I'm

448
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,239
Speaker 4: you know, I did one of those and you know,

449
00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,119
Speaker 4: uh what was it like five? I forget what the

450
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,120
Speaker 4: money was, but they I got paid for not even

451
00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:44,800
Speaker 4: being on their team because they didn't pick me up.

452
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Speaker 2: But you get to buy it. Yeah, I would. I

453
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,280
Speaker 2: would rather have a player option to do it.

454
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Speaker 1: Okay, Krats.

455
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 2: I mean I love winning.

456
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Speaker 3: I love winning. Like It's hard for me to say

457
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Speaker 3: because I didn't make a ton of money from baseball standpoint,

458
00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,439
Speaker 3: But I'm made a ton of money from normal people standpoint, playing,

459
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,639
Speaker 3: so it's relative. All with Todd said, you know, if

460
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Speaker 3: I had gotten the option to make the most money

461
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Speaker 3: at the end of my career and I already had

462
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,720
Speaker 3: a World Series ring. You're like, hey, you know what,

463
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,440
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna play anymore. So to me, I think

464
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Speaker 3: Michael Lorenzen is an awesome pickup. Is he gonna have

465
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Speaker 3: a six era or a three era? I have no idea.

466
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Speaker 2: You know.

467
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 3: It's how you acclimate to course field. It's how you

468
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:30,959
Speaker 3: deal with the fact that it's not the home runs.

469
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,120
Speaker 3: It's the fact that it's a massive outfield and more

470
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,399
Speaker 3: balls are going to land, so you just can't let

471
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 3: your pitch count get up. You can't walk guys all

472
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Speaker 3: that kind of stuff because they just can't cover the

473
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Speaker 3: entire field. To me, it's a massive pickup because of

474
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Speaker 3: the fact that this is this is a guy he's

475
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 3: still young enough. He can still He's only thirty four,

476
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 3: he can still play. To me, he's a guy that

477
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 3: can help some of these younger players be professional, go

478
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 3: through the grow. Just like talking to him. He's got

479
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 3: his head on straight in the sense that he understands

480
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,360
Speaker 3: the priorities in the game and about being a good teammate,

481
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 3: about what it's like to compete day in and day out.

482
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 3: He's been on really good teams where he threw a

483
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,160
Speaker 3: no hitter with the Phillies. He's been on really bad

484
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 3: teams and he was a position player. He was a pitcher. Like,

485
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 3: it's a guy I think you add to that clubhouse

486
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,120
Speaker 3: without knowing the other guys in the clubhouse that can

487
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 3: only raise the level of everybody because of how hard

488
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,160
Speaker 3: he works and his just his mindset and his positive

489
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Speaker 3: outlook on the game every day.

490
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Speaker 1: And he wants to start. I mean he's bounced back

491
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,439
Speaker 1: and forth start a reliever. Some Rockies fans joked that

492
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 1: they should have him hit for them as well. He

493
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,639
Speaker 1: used to do that. But anyway, I mean, he is

494
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Speaker 1: a guy who wants to start, and the Rockies are

495
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Speaker 1: going to give him the chance to do that. The

496
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,680
Speaker 1: Royals did. Actually last year he won one hundred and

497
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 1: forty one and two thirds innings. He made twenty seven appearances,

498
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 1: twenty six of them were starts. Right, the RA wasn't

499
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,159
Speaker 1: to dream about. And also when we're talking to R

500
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 1: right now for the Rockies, you got to take that

501
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 1: with a grain of salt. You got to use other statistics,

502
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 1: like if you want to get basic R plus right,

503
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 1: just to judge that a four and a half of

504
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 1: RA in Colorado could be like a three in other ballparks.

505
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,439
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm with you. I mean, the Rockies have

506
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 1: to start somewhere. Let's bring on a guy that should

507
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: be able to eat innings, wants to start sets a

508
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,880
Speaker 1: great example. I mean, he's a workout machine. I wrote

509
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 1: this yesterday on the reply to the tweet.

510
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 2: As a leader too, so he's gonna help out the

511
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 2: younger guys he is.

512
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 1: But ironic that the Rockies are now being run by

513
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: a guy who just came over from the NFL Paul

514
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,679
Speaker 1: de Pedesto. Over the last ten years, the first signing

515
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Speaker 1: the Rockies make under this era is a dude who

516
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,479
Speaker 1: looks like he should be in the NFL.

517
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,400
Speaker 2: Is an inside linebacker.

518
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 1: He's a house Yeah yeah, So anyway, nice little signing

519
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 1: for yeah.

520
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 2: And out of all of us, they would sign you.

521
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 1: Because I wouldn't see that. If that's what he's thinking,

522
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,679
Speaker 1: let me just go for the football look, but no

523
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: actual baseball skill. Rockies fans, let's talk. We have a

524
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: lot of time left to get back to winning a

525
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 1: ways if that's if we're just going off looks and

526
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 1: physicality and all that. But I appreciate the top father,

527
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 1: But I will say I mean, we'll see how this

528
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 1: shakes out. You've got they've got a guy in place

529
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 1: now running the front office that is a super super

530
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 1: numbers analytical guy, right, and you can you can love

531
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: or hate where the game has gone. Whatever has been

532
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 1: going on in Colorado has not been working. So maybe

533
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: this guy brings something totally different to the table. It

534
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 1: almost feels, don't you feel like Colorado it has to

535
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 1: be somewhat of a lab, like a science experiment, because

536
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 1: of how different it is out there to play, and.

537
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 4: If you do well, that's really good for your case,

538
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 4: for your lab experiment.

539
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 1: That's a good call. So a lot of front offices

540
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: were dreaming, or a lot of front office members right,

541
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: like an assistant GM, we're thinking about this job. I mean,

542
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: some guys got calls and said no because of some

543
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 1: other factors in play. But for some guys like Paul D. Podesta,

544
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 1: it's been a dream to be a part of a

545
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: team like this because if you can crack the code

546
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: in Colorado, it's it's like final Boss in the video game,

547
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: like a really tough code to crack. In his prime, yeah, yeah, right,

548
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 1: when he was chomping ears of the video game.

549
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 3: Crats is it like were you saying, were you saying

550
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 3: if you crack the code for pitching or if you

551
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 3: just cracked the code everything.

552
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 1: I mean, even even hitting wise, Like sure, I mean

553
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 1: they had their days where the guys were bashing baseballs.

554
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: But but guys always say like they they see pitches

555
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: one way and then they're on the road and then

556
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: the pitch doesn't break the same. It's so different in

557
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: Colorado versus everywhere else. Am I wrong?

558
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 3: But there's always hate any hitters. The hate is just

559
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 3: so associated with playing in Colorado.

560
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 2: Ah.

561
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 3: No, everything talked about Nolan Eronado. Look what happens when

562
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 3: he leaves Colorado. He went to Saint Louis and now

563
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 3: look what he is. Like I I think, where if

564
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 3: you want to make you know your legendary status, if

565
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 3: you want to make a mark, it's the pitching. It's

566
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 3: the pitching.

567
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 2: What is it?

568
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 3: There's something there that you can absolutely corner the market

569
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 3: and you can make it so that when teams go

570
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 3: in there, we gotta face this because they always do

571
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 3: this when we're in Colorado. It's gonna be tough. Somebody's

572
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 3: gonna have to probably lose their job before they come

573
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 3: up with the actual answer. But you can't just keep well,

574
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 3: you know what, we're doing everything that the that all

575
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 3: the other organizations are doing. So we're just gonna keep

576
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 3: doing that exact same thing. Like they have to do

577
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 3: something a little bit different that pushes them over the top.

578
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 3: Because the teams that they've had really good teams. They've

579
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Speaker 3: had guys that have had career years pitching. Tyler Anderson

580
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 3: had a ridiculous year. He carried that team, plus their

581
00:26:55,600 --> 00:27:00,160
Speaker 3: lineup banged, So you have to have that in play

582
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 3: to be able to have the success.

583
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Speaker 1: We'll see what they do. We will see this is

584
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: their first signing of the off season, first signing of

585
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Speaker 1: the new regime. Let's get to some other money numbers

586
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: just quickly because we'll learn about a lot of them

587
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: after the show. The arbitration settlement frenzy has begun. Basically,

588
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: today is the deadline and if not you go to arbitration,

589
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 1: right so, or figures are being exchanged. I guess you

590
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 1: could still settle, but figures get exchanged here, so then

591
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: you go to arbitration. And right now you'll see tons

592
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: of news pop up from insiders reporting on how Ryan

593
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: Mackcastle and they were all settled on six point seven

594
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:44,959
Speaker 1: eighty seven million. Ernie Clement boids are four point six million.

595
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: The ones at the top this year are Randy Rose

596
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: Arena and Trek Skooble. It's not based just on who

597
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: the best players are. It's based on their track record

598
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: leading up to this point and most importantly, how close

599
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 1: they are to free agency. So Randy and Terek are

600
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: both free agents after next year. We talked about this

601
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 1: on Fair Territory. It's actually kind of crazy. Terrek will

602
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: get more than Randy, but they're pretty close. And you

603
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: look and you're like, is that right? Last year of ARB,

604
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: the back to back side young winner, it's only going

605
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 1: to pull like eighteen nineteen mil. It seems like he

606
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: should be getting paid a little bit more on his

607
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 1: last year at ARB, or at least getting paid a

608
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: lot more than Randy is. Randy is a really nice player.

609
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, the fact that those two, according to this

610
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: current system, are making a similar amount is a little nuts.

611
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 1: Randy settled already at about fifteen and a half and

612
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: it seems like School's going to end up in like

613
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: the maybe nineteen mill range. So those two are pretty close,

614
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: and we're going to get into it more tomorrow. There's

615
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: actually an article out that I want to cover tomorrow

616
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: about arbitration how MLB wants to kill it. But any

617
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: thoughts here, I mean, did you guys go through this

618
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: at all where he did the number exchange thing?

619
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh yeah, it's fun, right, it's fun. It

620
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 4: came down to the last five minutes for me the

621
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 4: one time, and then you settled with the White Sox. Yeah,

622
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 4: I did? What did I do? I did? The first

623
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 4: year we did the first two years we did a

624
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 4: two year deal of arbitration for a.

625
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 2: Total of twelve It was like, I think it was

626
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 2: four and four and eight.

627
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 4: I don't know the exact numbers. I'm like, oh, this

628
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 4: is great. You know, I got two years. I'm gonna

629
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 4: make twelve million dollars. I'm set. It's pretty cool. And

630
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 4: then my third year they started off really low and

631
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 4: then we like I told my agent, I said, screw it,

632
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 4: go high. So we went really high, and then we

633
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 4: met exactly where we wanted to be. Like, it's just

634
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 4: so stupid, like why do you have to nickel and

635
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 4: dine back and forth? Why can't we give you the

636
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 4: number where it's supposed to be instead of taking two

637
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 4: months to figure out. And then my agent goes, we're

638
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 4: at twelve million. We have five minutes left. What do

639
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 4: you want to do?

640
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 2: Said okay, So I made another twelve million there, so

641
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 2: all good.

642
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: So you guys got what you wanted in the end,

643
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: but you had to battle to the finish line.

644
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty much. I mean it was you know, more

645
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 4: or less we you know it is what But it

646
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 4: was just so stupid.

647
00:29:59,240 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: It's so dumb.

648
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 3: I'll tell you why, Todd, because you're a man of

649
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 3: integrity and you have one career. They're coming to it

650
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 3: as we're going to have nine more Todd Fraser's in

651
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 3: the next fifty years. If we give Todd Fraser an

652
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 3: extra what were you guys haggling over two hundred thousand

653
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 3: dollars five hundred thousand dollars.

654
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: Probably more than that, No, two million.

655
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 4: I think we started at like they started at like six,

656
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 4: and we started at eighteen something.

657
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Speaker 2: Bogus.

658
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 4: It was not that far, I promise you on anything

659
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 4: I love.

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00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 2: They started out really low or eight or something.

661
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: They have to go above that. Last night, ye whatever,

662
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: your last number was eight. They probably just say stayed

663
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: around there.

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Speaker 4: I said, let's go. I say, they said, what do

665
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 4: you want to go? I said, let's go like eighteen

666
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 4: or twenty? Scrowl, you know what I mean? Well, listen

667
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 4: in my I didn't care.

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00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: But also this is an interesting strategy. I mean, usually

669
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: nowadays it's gotten so number oriented that the numbers are closer.

670
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: But the way arbitration works is that if you go

671
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: to your case, you present your number. They present them.

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00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 2: Any number they wanted, but there's the one they started

673
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 2: out with.

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00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: But no, they don't end up at the middle unless you,

675
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: guys settle. So the arbitration panel either says Todd's eighteen

676
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: or he's eight.

677
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 2: Or they can go in and put forth they wanted

678
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 2: to in the arbitration.

679
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,239
Speaker 1: They can, but I think they wouldn't win that one.

680
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 2: But if you go to the.

681
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: Right, So if they did that, they'd be stupid, the

682
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: panel would It doesn't make sense. You got to go eighteen,

683
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: even though it's.

684
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 4: Rest that some teams and players would take exactly so whatever.

685
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they but they know that there's going to

686
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 3: be nine more Todd Frasers and if they can, even

687
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 3: if they can cut you down by two hundred thousand

688
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 3: dollars out of twelve million dollars.

689
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 2: That's crazy, and I'll tell you no, no, just.

690
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 3: Over nine players, that gets up to close to two

691
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 3: million dollars that they're saving in the long term. And

692
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 3: that's that's how they're looking at it.

693
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 4: Sure, they put a they have this one guy forget

694
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 4: his name, and they always put him on the highest

695
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 4: number arbitration guy they do each year for the White Sox,

696
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 4: and I was the guy.

697
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 2: So they put this.

698
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 4: One guy to work tireless for a couple of months

699
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 4: to figure out and nickel and dime and get the

700
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 4: least amount of money you know, out of me.

701
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: He Well, their job is to basically go to baseball

702
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: court and say right, They'll be like, yo, I know

703
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: that he you know he in little league. He was

704
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: this legend. But he only went nine for ten in

705
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: this two game series. Like where was the other.

706
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 2: I would I would have I would have been in there.

707
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,479
Speaker 2: I would have loved that and said no, but I was.

708
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: I was ready, man, I see, I would pay to

709
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: watch you watch this dude, tell you how bad.

710
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 2: You Oh, that's great, it would have been great. That's

711
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 2: good theater for a while.

712
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,479
Speaker 3: I want to do it. I want to come up

713
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 3: with what year. I'm trying to figure out what year

714
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 3: that was that you went to. So that would have

715
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 3: been seventeen. So I want to make the arbitration argument

716
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 3: of why you sucked in sixteen?

717
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: Now that was that was six Well, no, seventeen was Yanks.

718
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 3: Ye, Now seventeen was your last year with the White Sox.

719
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 3: So you made twelve with the White Sox and then

720
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 3: you got traded over. So sixteen they were lucky forty

721
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 3: home runs. You didn't get to one hundred RBIs you

722
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 3: were too short with ninety eight. It's got a weird

723
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 3: thumbs and his strikeout to walk ratio was not great

724
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 3: and his thumbs are really weird. Oh and he had

725
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 3: fifteen stolen bases. Anybody could have stolen fifteen stolen bases.

726
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 3: I would have gotten you six million dollars.

727
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 2: Either way, it's all good.

728
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: But they would have said his thumbs project to a

729
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: five percent home run rate decline over this season. Yes,

730
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: that's why he's not worth that much. I mean, some

731
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: of these cases are crazy. We've talked about in the past.

732
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 1: There was the one with Corbyn Burns, I think against Milwaukee,

733
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: and that's when he used to come on the show.

734
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: Often and they said how the Brewers didn't make the

735
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: playoffs because Corbin had like two bad starts out of

736
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: thirty or something. It's like that one, to me is

737
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: kind of a joke. I'm like, how is that even

738
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: an argument? So he's amazing in twenty eight of thirty starts,

739
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: which makes him a number one, and you're saying you

740
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: didn't make the playoffs because he wasn't perfect. I don't know,

741
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 1: but that's the kind of stuff. It's real. It feels

742
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: very old school, the whole system. But we can talk

743
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: more about it tomorrow too, once we get all of

744
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,439
Speaker 1: the final numbers coming through. We want to shout out

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Speaker 1: make sure you're getting your money's worth, some of you

766
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 1: saying hey, we're watching you guys every day. We want

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00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: to throw a little bit your way. We want to

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Speaker 1: throw as much back to you as well. Let's hit

769
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: some fun comments from yesterday.

770
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:44,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what he said.

771
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 1: That's what he said, that's what he said. That's what

772
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 1: he said. So Paraminage and the GM of the Angels

773
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: spoke yesterday, and we can start with the tweet. Sam

774
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: Blum is always out there doing it excellent job covering

775
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: these press conferences, and also we spoke about this on

776
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: Fair Territory if you want to give that a look

777
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: after this show. But Blum put out an article that

778
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: said the lack of transparency by Angels Jim Perrymanashiin continues

779
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: to amaze. Here's one of the quotes from the presser.

780
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: We made a jump last year. I think we were

781
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: in the top four or five teams in wins from

782
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 1: the previous season. We expect to make another jump this year.

783
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: Blum pointed out how the team won sixty three games

784
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,919
Speaker 1: and then in twenty four and then seventy two games

785
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: in twenty five. I guess if you keep making that jump,

786
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 1: you'll make the playoffs maybe in a year or two,

787
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: but that's not usually how it works. This revolved around

788
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:43,720
Speaker 1: them asking to learn more details about the Anthony Rendoin situation,

789
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: and Perry really was not getting into it, and then

790
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: Sam is questioning if the team is actually going to

791
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: say spend the money they saved. In fairness, they are

792
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: one of those teams that we talked about yesterday that

793
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: is dealing with the TV money conundrum, and they don't

794
00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: know how much money they're going to get from local

795
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: TV revenue coming into this year. And that is music

796
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: to the ears of an owner that can say, Hey,

797
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: I can't spend now because I don't know how much

798
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: money I'm making. But the main point here that I

799
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: actually pointed out Craton dork of the Week was how

800
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: Perry's been in the game for a long time. I mean,

801
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: he was what a clubby, his family's been in the game.

802
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: He's a really nice guy, He's a great combo a

803
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: little less GM speak. I would say this to him

804
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: at this point on the show if we had him on, like,

805
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: give me you guys do this all the time. I

806
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: usually let you guys do this. You todd aj like,

807
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,959
Speaker 1: just talk to me like a person, give me a little.

808
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: Dombrowski does this, Alexanthopolis does this, many others do. But

809
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: Perry's just getting very buttoned up and maybe a little

810
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: bit pissed off. I mean, the Angels haven't been good

811
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: for a while, but some of the comments yesterday were

812
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: just they were It was almost like, why are we

813
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: doing a press conference if you're not saying anything. Can't

814
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: say anything about Rendon, can't say anything about Perrol, Like

815
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: what can we talk about? And of course he had

816
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: the incident a couple months ago trying to defend their

817
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: lack of air conditioning in the weight room, and it

818
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: turned into an Abbott and Costello back and forth. Look

819
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: that up, kids, if you don't know what it is.

820
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: So anyway, Eric, I think we've reached the point where

821
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 1: we got to call out Perry, like Perry a little

822
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: too much quarter zip talk.

823
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 3: I think it probably goes to the fact that he

824
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 3: gets pressure from the ownership. You think ownership's just like, hey, man,

825
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 3: you known handle the Tyler Skaggs, Anthony Rendon air conditioning,

826
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 3: handle all of our issues however you want to No.

827
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 3: I think when he came over, I think Perry did

828
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 3: a good job of understanding that he was kind of

829
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 3: a marionette that I think he was kind of pushing

830
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 3: in directions with all these scandals and issues and the

831
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 3: fact that now he's been there and he's seen the

832
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 3: fact that there is just a lack of infrastructure throughout

833
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 3: the organization. He's probably getting annoyed with Sam Blum just

834
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 3: being like, hey, like, give us an answer to this,

835
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 3: and he's like, you know what, Artie said, I can

836
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 3: still have my job if I don't piss him off

837
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 3: by my answers. Like I think, knowing Perry, the little

838
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 3: bit that I knew him watching his interviews earlier, it

839
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 3: does feel like there is a shift this year that

840
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 3: it seems like somebody's telling him, Hey, let's let's zip

841
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 3: it and let's let's give him, let's give him a

842
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 3: little bit less, like let's let's try to paint this

843
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 3: a little bit different, because you have to crack some

844
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 3: eggs to make an omelet, and I think in LA

845
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 3: they're gonna have to do some things that are gonna

846
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 3: be tough and look weird on the surface to make

847
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 3: the organization better. They're gonna have to do some things

848
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 3: that Artie Morino might be like, I don't really like that. Well,

849
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 3: you haven't liked it for years, and you're squandering the

850
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 3: best player of our generation's career. If you want a

851
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 3: shot at putting Mike Trout in the playoffs, these are

852
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 3: the things you have to do. And his answers right now,

853
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 3: Perry's answers right now feel like already saying we're not saying,

854
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 3: we're not saying this stuff anymore. So he's just kind

855
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 3: of given the I'm annoyed answers.

856
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 2: And Scott to kind of button this whole thing up.

857
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 4: In my situation, yeah, you got more wins last year,

858
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 4: but you have to make the playoffs.

859
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 2: You have to be a winning team, a winning organization.

860
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 4: You're still under five hundred and you have to put

861
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 4: your you know, I have to put your foot in

862
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 4: the door and open that door and say hey, we're

863
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 4: here and it's just not happening. I don't care how

864
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 4: many wins you had from last year to this year.

865
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 4: Doesn't mean they're gonna do it again. So you have

866
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 4: to find a way to make the playoffs.

867
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 2: You know, win a World Series is that's the goal.

868
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 2: But you have to get to the playoffs first.

869
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: No for them, oh my gosh, they'll take the playoffs

870
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: in a heartbeat. Angels fans will too. I mean, Angels

871
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: fans have gone through it is as much as any

872
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: fan base in sports for a while now. It's a

873
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: good point Kratz. He has to do with someone who

874
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 1: is waking up one day and making a different decision

875
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,439
Speaker 1: or holding back certain infrastructure that almost every other team has.

876
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: It is not an easy job. In fairness, he knew

877
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: that when he accepted the job. He knew that everyone

878
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: knows how the Angels organization operates. It's not like he

879
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,720
Speaker 1: went in there and said, you know what, everything's about

880
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: to change. Everything I've heard for years is going to change,

881
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: and they certainly haven't hit on some of the moves

882
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: that they've made. But we also don't know behind the

883
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: scenes how much of that has to do with who

884
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: made the decision.

885
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 3: That's the puppet part. He came in. He worked so tight.

886
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 3: I mean I saw Perry when he shifted from being

887
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 3: a clubby to being an assistant GM in Toronto, like

888
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 3: you're grinding through it. Anybody's ever grinded through working your

889
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,720
Speaker 3: way up the ladder. He got to that GM role

890
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 3: and he's like, I am doing this. I work so

891
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 3: hard to get here. I am doing it. And now

892
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 3: maybe maybe I'm just speculating, but you have to go

893
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 3: in and you have to make changes. And even if

894
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 3: if I got that job, I would know what it is,

895
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 3: but I would also say, yeah, I'm going in to

896
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 3: make changes. You can't go in and be like this

897
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 3: place is hopeless. I'm just I'm just biding my time

898
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 3: for five years. Thanks for the job.

899
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 1: It ain't easy. But from a fan perspective, they just

900
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: want a little more. I don't even want to say transparency,

901
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: just like less not GM speak. Yeah, just give it,

902
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: just give me a little bit, be real under the

903
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 1: curtain be real little bit. You know, he's not the

904
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: only one that talks like this. It's not like I'm

905
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: just singling him out. It's just that he's shifted. You

906
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: feel this shift. There's definitely frustration with Sam Blom being

907
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: one of the best reporters in baseball. It's true. You've

908
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: got one of the best reporters in baseball out in

909
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: the area, and he doesn't just cover the Angels, but

910
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: he covers the Angels a lot, and so when he's

911
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: at pressers like this, he's not gonna let you get

912
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: away with skipping questions on broken air conditioning. You know.

913
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: It's like we talked about the media markets earlier. Generally

914
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: that's a pretty safe spot. But there are some really

915
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: strong reporters covering that team, and Sam Blum is one

916
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: of them. So he's gonna ask us questions and you

917
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: can get a little bit frustrating. While we have a moment,

918
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: I do want to plug pinstripe territory. Yesterday's episode had

919
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal making a little appearance with Derek Lewandowski and

920
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: we have a clip.

921
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 5: I'm not exactly sure, but it's just the nature of

922
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 5: the baseball calendar. There are no signing deadlines. There are

923
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 5: no trade deadlines in the winter, and teams and agents

924
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 5: stare each other down. Teams and other teams stare each

925
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 5: other down and wait for the best possible deals, and

926
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 5: we get these endless delays.

927
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,919
Speaker 1: That's Derek asking Ken why it's been low and John

928
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 1: Hammond reported that the Yankees weren't close on Edward Cabrera.

929
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,479
Speaker 1: So I guess the Cubs beat them. Oh, in case,

930
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: he's a pretty big deal prospect to headline a package,

931
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: and the Yankees weren't able to match that. The Yankees

932
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 1: probably would have had to throw a Spencer Jones or

933
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: a Jason Domingez out to the Marlins to be able

934
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:23,959
Speaker 1: to match that. Yeah, so they move on. They try

935
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: for Freddy p Freddy Pralton.

936
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 2: I mean, if a school name comes up, that's a different.

937
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: Story, then you're I mean, I would trade both of

938
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: those guys.

939
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 2: For schoobl I would have to agree, right, I think

940
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 2: I would.

941
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: Best pitcher in baseball. Give you a chance to win

942
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: a World Series for a year. Yanks haven't won in

943
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: a minute. Right, there's a line. You're not going to

944
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: give up ten dudes, but those two for that picture

945
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: worth it.

946
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 4: I said that about what's his name from the Red Sox,

947
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,439
Speaker 4: the lefty just crochet. Yeah, I said that you gotta

948
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 4: give up the kitchen sink, and they all crushed me

949
00:44:58,320 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 4: on that. And guess what they gave up most?

950
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: They gave up a lot. And guess what they love him.

951
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: He's one of the best pitchers in baseball. I'm with you,

952
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 1: all Right's it for the people? Just a quick segment

953
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: here today. The Orioles picked up Big Christmas the other day.

954
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: Did you see that? Just for the holidays to be festive?

955
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: And now he's gone. I mean, we talked about how

956
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: this is actually really difficult for the player, but people

957
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: did have fun with it online. It's not like he

958
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: moved his whole life to Baltimore just yet, or I

959
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: hope he didn't, because it was only a little two

960
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 1: day thing. But the Orioles announced that they did designate

961
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: John Kenzie Noel for assignment. So it was an epic run.

962
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: You know, people online were like, post your best memories

963
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: of Big Christmas. That's a Baltimore oriole. So you know,

964
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: we had some responses. A historic run from Kyle online.

965
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: Here here's Kevin. Christmas does always seem to fly by quickly.

966
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 2: It does. Yeah, you gotta.

967
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: Have fun with life, right, I mean, I'm sure John

968
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: Kenzie's got a personality and appreciates this or a team. Yeah,

969
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: Baltimore wasn't necessarily the fit for him anyway.

970
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't get it.

971
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I mean you're trying to fill up your

972
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: forty man and then things come and go. So actually,

973
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: I think Ken Rosenthal addressed this on Fair Territory and

974
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 1: talked about it. A fan asked a question. It was

975
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: after I was on I was on the show for

976
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:25,760
Speaker 1: the first twenty then I had to hang around with

977
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 1: with you guys.

978
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 3: But what Kratz, Oh No, I was just gonna say.

979
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 3: And they get a chance to put him through waivers

980
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 3: now and he could go to Triple A for him,

981
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 3: he could. You know, there's there's different little intricacies that

982
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 3: guys don't think about because this stuff doesn't happen to

983
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 3: Juan Soto, Bryce Harper, Zach Wheeler. You know, it doesn't

984
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 3: happen to those guys. But it's real life for Don Kenzie.

985
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 3: He was playing down in the d R this year.

986
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 3: I was just looking it up. He played on in

987
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 3: the last two years now, he's played on two different

988
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 3: DR teams. He played for the Astraeus. Now he's playing

989
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 3: for the t Grace or no, I'm sorry to Toros.

990
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 3: So it's it's real life. And maybe maybe he passes through,

991
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,959
Speaker 3: goes to Triple A and a team from Japan calls

992
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 3: him and the Orioles get a little bit of cash

993
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 3: because they sell his rights to Japan.

994
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: That's true. I forgot about that. That's a sneaky little

995
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: call out right there, and that happens more than people think, Oh,

996
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: that kind of back could play. Oh yeah in the NPB.

997
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 2: Missiles out there and some of those fields aren't that big.

998
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: No, And then sometimes they come back. Tyler Austin just

999
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: came back. Was he in kb O or NPB? That

1000
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:30,720
Speaker 1: was your former teammate?

1001
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,439
Speaker 2: Right, here's here's an MPB. Yeah.

1002
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: Back, he's back with the Cubs. One year. Oh, major

1003
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: league deal, too, major league deal?

1004
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 2: Good for him.

1005
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: He's back. He can he's huge, he is huge, enormous.

1006
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 1: Was it Giant and Luko both on the team together

1007
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: and they're like doing the one handed bench press?

1008
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know what it was, but he's a

1009
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 4: when we played. Well, it's been one freaking five years

1010
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 4: now since we played. He was a month stir over

1011
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 4: there in Japan, and he was like the king over there.

1012
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 3: He's not huge. He has really small arms, and so

1013
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 3: it makes the rest of his body look big, and

1014
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 3: he can refute that when he comes on.

1015
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 2: He's going to crush you for that. I will crush

1016
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 2: him that.

1017
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 3: I was his uber driver when we played together in

1018
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 3: San Francisco, so he owes me to come on the show.

1019
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 3: He can't keep junkings