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Speaker 1: Play won three Natties, three time Big Ten champ, seventeen

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Speaker 1: years coaching college football, bowling Green, Utah, Florida, Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: Now he's working at Fox Sports. Urban Myer is now

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Speaker 1: joining us. Tonight Ohio State's playing Miami. Let me start

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Speaker 1: with this one before we get into the games. So

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Speaker 1: you know, you were an athlete, your golf still you

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Speaker 1: get out there, you got kids, grandkids, you're active. You're

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Speaker 1: sixty one, Whittingham sixty six. Do you think in five

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Speaker 1: years from today you would have the energy to be

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Speaker 1: a college football coach? Take here, how you live today?

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Speaker 1: Five years that's a lot of good times, that's a

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Speaker 1: lot Five years from today, would you have the energy?

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Speaker 1: Sixty six is a big number there, It is older.

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Speaker 1: What do you make of that?

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Speaker 3: Personally?

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Speaker 4: No, I would not, just because the way I did it.

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Speaker 4: It was all in and uh, you know, Kyle's a

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Speaker 4: unique breed. Kyle is a guy that is sixty six

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Speaker 3: I know him very well. Obviously he's in great shape.

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Speaker 4: But me personally, no chance, no chance to go back

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Speaker 4: to work in the hours, in the and the grind.

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Speaker 3: No chance.

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Speaker 1: What's his best asset? What's what's Kyle best at?

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Speaker 3: Oh Man?

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Speaker 4: I've been asked this question a lot lately. He is

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Speaker 4: a tough guy. He understands his football acumen. I would

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Speaker 4: say it's as good as anyone I've ever been around.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'd put you know, Dan Mulla and Ryan

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Speaker 4: That's how he's such a smart guy. Understands both sides

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Speaker 4: of the ball. But I think the best thing he

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Speaker 4: close to his players. And I just always admired that

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Speaker 4: about him when he was working for me years ago.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, Miami at Ohio State, very good defenses. I

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Speaker 1: think Julian san is the most underrated college football player

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Speaker 1: everybody knows Ohio State's got great backs last year, great receivers.

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Speaker 1: This year it's Ohio State. I just don't know if

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Speaker 1: Miami can move the ball much. I don't think Ohio

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Miami can move the ball in

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Unless Ohio State does something very uncharacteristic and turn the

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Speaker 4: I do not see Miami driving the ball against Ohio State.

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Speaker 4: I saw very few deep very few teams do that.

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Speaker 4: You know, the only team that beat them was obviously

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Speaker 4: Indiana and our a man Mendoza made some incredible throws.

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Speaker 4: And I don't see Ohio State moving up the ball,

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Speaker 4: moving up and down the field on Miami either. This

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Speaker 4: is going to be a slug fest. And I just

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Speaker 4: don't see Miami scoring. I told people if Ohio State

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Speaker 3: And I still believe.

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Speaker 1: That when you go into a game like this and

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Speaker 1: Do you think Ryan Day will call it conservative game,

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Speaker 1: basically believing, guys, we will eventually make a play on

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Speaker 1: I've seen Ryan. I've seen Ryan do that before a

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Speaker 1: Day watches film you do. Miami's not dropping twenty eight here,

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Speaker 1: They're not. So do you think Ranel coach conservatively.

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Speaker 3: He's always been very involved in play calling.

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Speaker 4: You asked what would I do. I would do exactly

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Speaker 4: what you just said. I would be very conservative as

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Speaker 3: But you have to get two.

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Speaker 4: First downs because Colin netflips the field, you get two

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Speaker 3: They're starting inside their ten.

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Speaker 4: If you got excellent special teams, and that's where the

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Speaker 3: And put them in that situation. This kind of game.

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Speaker 4: Now, if they have matchup night, like a matchup advantage,

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Speaker 4: I would not mess around inside your own ten twenty

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Speaker 4: Get too first down, do you get in your midfield?

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Speaker 4: Go ahead and take a few shots because this will

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Speaker 4: be a field position game. Because Miami's defense is legit, legit,

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Speaker 1: I think Indiana is going to blow Alabama out. I think.

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Speaker 1: I think I've watched Alabama play six times, and I

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Speaker 4: How about Colin Coward saying Indiana is going to blow

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Speaker 4: on Alabama and you still have a show to do.

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Speaker 4: That's amazing twenty twenty five. I think it's going to

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Speaker 4: be very close game. I think on paper, Alabama's got

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Speaker 4: a great looking team. But they're up and down Indiana.

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Speaker 4: This is the most talented Indiana team of all time.

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Speaker 4: Todd McStay said they're gonna have eight players drafted, which

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Speaker 4: And Mendoza. It's all on Mendoza. Mendoza has one of

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Speaker 1: So you and I I think we agree on Lincoln Riley.

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Speaker 1: Smart guy, gosh, but we're several years in and we

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Speaker 1: don't see the toughness. They can't packle They just lost

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Speaker 1: that Jade in myob is one of the most improved

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Speaker 1: There's so much I like about him. But you're watching

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Speaker 1: you know you watched that last night. At the end,

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Speaker 1: what do we make of USC Riley this morning? What

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Speaker 1: it's a bowl game? Nobody's playing. They didn't play their starters.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I had nine guys that would never see

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Speaker 1: how do you view it?

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Speaker 4: I think I've said this on this show and certainly

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Speaker 4: the one job I don't understand that it's not in

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Speaker 4: Lincoln Riley has always been a guy I looked up to,

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Speaker 4: and his football documenies are very high. But there's been

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Speaker 3: To be going away. So I don't understand it.

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Speaker 4: To me, that's the one of all I put Florida

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Speaker 4: PLUBI probably number two. I just don't understand how Florida's

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Speaker 4: the history, tradition, the money, I don't It makes no

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Speaker 4: But what are we talking about. We're talking about USC

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Speaker 3: How that you can say it's just a bowl game.

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Speaker 3: I don't look at it that way at all. They lost.

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Speaker 3: USC should lose.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you coach in the SEC and the Big Ten,

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Speaker 1: Big Ten is the best conference.

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Speaker 3: How about Illinois beating Tennessee you know, and Iowa you

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Speaker 4: And so I I said this last year that the

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Speaker 3: Watch at the top of the Big Ten was better

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Speaker 4: I still thought the quality of depth of the SEC,

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Speaker 4: middle of the SEC down to the bottom, is much

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Speaker 3: I think we need to evaluate those.

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Speaker 4: Things happen that you just said, Well, certainly at the

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Speaker 4: top of the Big ten's can be better. But when

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm looking at the score right now, I'm doing

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Speaker 1: this live hold on vander Bill, hold on God. Iowa's

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Speaker 4: I just was watching, and I mean Hammer playing great defense,

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Speaker 1: Iowas tough. I watched Iowa play Oregon. That was a

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Speaker 1: go either way game. It was crappy weather. It was

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Speaker 1: a good game. It's good TV product. Yeah, it's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Let's see all right. You know, I was thinking about this.

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Speaker 1: You're friends with Kyle Winningham and he's at Michigan and

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Speaker 1: next year's Ohio State Michigan game. I mean, that's a

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Speaker 1: tough one for you now right. How do you How

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Speaker 3: I have to work on it. But Kyle called me?

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Speaker 3: How about this? Colin? Colin?

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Speaker 4: Kyle called me and he said, what do you think?

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Speaker 4: And I thought, Kyle, you're sixty six years old and

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Speaker 1: It is okay, So I'm going Ohio State, Indiana, Georgia.

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Speaker 3: But Dan Lanning what makes him. He's player.

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Speaker 4: He's tough as heck on the players, but he also

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Speaker 4: When I watch that practice, tough, physical and everybody going hard.

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Speaker 3: I think the Buckeys score three touchdowns, they win the game.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Ohio State can score twenty four.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, which last question how to or for you is

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of sold my Carson beckstock.

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Speaker 1: I think Krystal Ball's had a hell of a year

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Speaker 1: from August September all right, Urban, good seeing you.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Coler.

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Speaker 1: You bet, Yeah, I think it's I think it's on

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Speaker 1: the number eight, nine, ten, We'll see. I just I

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Speaker 5: This is the Herd Line news all right, I know

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Speaker 5: Herd Line of the year, cow heard. Let's start with

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Speaker 5: the forty nine ers forty nine ers Seahawks in a

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Speaker 5: huge game, must win for the number one seed, so

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Speaker 5: the division. I remain mystified that Seattle is at one

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Speaker 5: an island here with the Niners. Every time I look online,

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Speaker 5: all I'm seeing is Seattle. Seattle Colin Kyle Shanahan has

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Speaker 1: Obviously, if he gets the number one seed, you got

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Speaker 5: I'm surprised Liam Cohen's not getting more love. Jacksonville won

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Speaker 5: just I mean, his odds are plus twelve hundred. Why

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Speaker 5: They've played the largest number of teams that have a

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Speaker 1: I've seen the Rams get whacked by the Falcons and

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Speaker 5: Panthers, I believe you have a winning record and could

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Speaker 5: make the playoffs. But yes, yeah, I mean Patriots lost

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Speaker 1: But I would probably give it to Vrabel. But I

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Speaker 5: I mean, Patriots haven't had the injuries that forty nine.

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Speaker 5: I would go Niners. I would go Shanahan, followed by

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Speaker 1: Nobody. Some people had the Patriots like yourself.

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Speaker 5: Zero people had the Jags making the playoffs, much less

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Speaker 1: I mean Cohen's Cohen made Trevor Lawrence looks like the

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Speaker 5: You know, it may come as a shock to you,

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Speaker 1: Well, May's the MVP, and Rabel's a great coach. You

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Speaker 5: If I said, Colin, you're starting a franchise tomorrow, you

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Speaker 1: Who you got Rabel and I like Kevin O'Connell.

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Speaker 5: I'm taking koc Baby, that's my guy offensive coordinate. Wait

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Speaker 1: Okay, you can't wait for that brown.

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Speaker 5: All right, let's go to Tampa Bay and Carolina. I

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Speaker 1: I wanted to bet. I wanted to bet Carolina, but

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Speaker 1: I'm all for three and I'm not gonna do it anymore.

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Speaker 1: I'm never gonna bet an NFC South team again. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't bet.

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Speaker 1: I don't bet Big twelve football. It's too crazy.

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Speaker 5: Okay, well, Baker Mayfield is a huge reason for the

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Speaker 5: Anyways, here's Todd Bowles calling out his quarterbacks play ahead

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Speaker 6: We gotta be better at the sagma calling position.

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Speaker 3: We gotta be better blocking it. Hey, when in this

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Speaker 6: There's no negativity inside the locker room, inside of the building,

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Speaker 1: Sounds like a beaten down man, doesn't it like me?

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Speaker 5: it looks like he's been through the ringer.

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Speaker 2: Now it is hard to win.

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Speaker 1: Go watch the Rams to fall behind in the first half.

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Speaker 1: And now the Rams go to Arizona and you have

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Speaker 1: to inspire your players. Oh, Arizona's dangerous, are they? It's hard?

439
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Speaker 5: But the Rams are in the playoffs. Tampa's fighting for

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Speaker 5: their lives. By the way, this line is crazy. So

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Speaker 5: it was yeah, three, now it's two.

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Speaker 1: And a half. But here's the wacky part.

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Speaker 5: Two weeks ago they played and Tampa was favored in

444
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Speaker 5: Carolina by three.

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Speaker 1: Now they're getting less at home. This feels a little

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. I don't know what to

447
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Speaker 1: do with this game. I'm in a pick them pool?

448
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Speaker 1: Who do you pick in this one?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: I don't. It's the end. Now you have to you

451
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Speaker 1: have to pick every game. It's a pick them pool

452
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Speaker 1: every week. You got to pick every game. I would

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Speaker 1: I have no feel for the Panthers. I would say Bucks,

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Speaker 1: but I have no feel none.

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Speaker 5: So basically, essentially flip a coin here, right, is that

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Speaker 5: what you're saying? Yeah, final story, Colin, Oh, this is fun.

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Speaker 1: This is really fun.

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Speaker 5: So a lot of reports about Mike McDaniel's future in Miami.

459
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Speaker 5: Apparently he was gone. Now he saved his job.

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Speaker 1: Well, we'll see. One report has.

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Speaker 5: Even linked him to the Cleveland Browns if they were

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Speaker 5: to move on from Kevin Stefanski. The report suggested the

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Speaker 5: two could swap teams, so McDaniel, who knows a left

464
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Speaker 5: handed quarterback, would go there and maybe work with Dylan

465
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Speaker 5: Gabriel and Kevin Sefanski would leave Cleveland for Miami, which

466
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Speaker 5: is like going from driving like a Civic to a

467
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Speaker 5: Porsche and it's like, oh, hello, I had a coach swap.

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Speaker 1: That's sexy. No, I mean, I just I would keep

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Speaker 1: Stefanski where he's at and Mike where he's at. I'm

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Speaker 1: interested to see who gets the GM job in Miami.

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Speaker 1: Got a few leads on that, Oh what do you got? Well?

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Speaker 1: Then just throwing stuff out there the New year. How

473
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Speaker 1: about this?

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Speaker 5: Instead of texting me updates about the Saints.

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Speaker 1: Can you send me something about the GM search in Miami?

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Speaker 1: I mean the Saints Texas. I'm laughing. I'm like, what's

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Speaker 1: going on here? Oh all right, Jmick. Well that's the

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Speaker 1: news and thanks for stopping by The Herd Line News

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Speaker 1: coming up next Bowl or boloney? These bowl games are hideous.

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Speaker 1: I like college football. I'm not watching him. We'll explain that.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: in neon eastern nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 1: Today is New Year's Even this time of the year,

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Speaker 1: the staff praise on my giving nature. They now I

486
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Speaker 1: get so wrapped up and giving back during the holidays

487
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Speaker 1: that I forget to make time for myself and watch

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Speaker 1: all these meaningless bowl games. There were forty seven last year.

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Speaker 1: At least we're going in the right direction. There's only

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Speaker 1: forty one bowl games this year, and we're gonna play

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Speaker 1: a little game Bowler Blogoney, I did not watch the

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Speaker 1: game last night that included USC. I'm out. Can't wait

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Speaker 1: for the College Football Playoff. Love college football. You're d

494
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Speaker 1: a role so last year I had tears in my

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Speaker 1: eyes at some of these. I let's see if you

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Speaker 1: could do it again.

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Speaker 2: Here we go, throw it out, Sonoko, sixty seven Oil Bowl.

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Speaker 1: That's a bull. I think that is a bull. Wait,

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Speaker 1: come on, that's sixty seven. You know the six to

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Speaker 1: seven thing with the kids, that's why they Yeah, oh oh,

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Speaker 1: I got burned. Okay, okay, okay, next up, Next up?

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Speaker 1: Bucked Up La Bull hosted by Gronk. Fuck okay, it's

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Speaker 1: too weird to be fake. That's a bull game. Okay,

504
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 1: it is. That's a real But there's no way our

505
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Speaker 1: staff is clever enough to come up with that. I

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Speaker 1: don't even know what Bucked Up is I like the

507
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Speaker 1: light of it either, But Gronk hosted it. Wow, okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, so there we there we go share it

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Speaker 1: in Hawaii.

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Speaker 5: Bull.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that is the share it and still a hotel, honestly,

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Speaker 1: is it? I'm gonna say there's no way again. The

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Speaker 1: logo looks too good to be fake unless it's AI generated.

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Speaker 1: I say that's a real that's a bull. Yeah, okay, okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: all right.

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Speaker 2: All right, next up Denny's Moon over My Hammy, all

517
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Speaker 2: American bull.

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Speaker 1: That is a bullooney fake? All right, we're right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you had me until moons over my Hammy. If you

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Speaker 1: did just stick with Denny's, I.

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Speaker 2: Would have been at your City Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Waymotor City Bowl. Now it's too it's too soon for

523
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Speaker 1: the way mo I'm just starting to drive him six

524
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 1: months ago. That is bulooney, that's fake. Nice weyloads are awesome,

525
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Speaker 1: by the way they are.

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Speaker 2: They are great, very cool game above sports bawl.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling the radio audience. All I can tell you

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Speaker 1: is that logo is really good. So I'm gonna say

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Speaker 1: that is a bowl. Yeah, we're right on that one.

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00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 1: That's real. Okay.

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Speaker 2: TikTok talkie sees the bowl.

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Speaker 1: Dog donkey, I mean the absurdity baloney. That's baloney, not bowl.

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00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: That's fake.

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00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 6: Okay.

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Speaker 1: By the way, have you had talkies?

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Speaker 2: My kids love them.

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Speaker 1: I've never don't even know what a talkie is. A

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00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: walkie talkie? Okay, go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Snoop Dogg Arizona Bowl presented by Gin and Jews.

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Speaker 1: Call me nuts, but Dave Portnoy bought a bowl. Kimmel

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Speaker 1: bought a bowl. I say that's a bowl. I say

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Speaker 1: that's a bowl.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 1: I've seen celebrities by bulls. My friend was involved in this,

545
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Speaker 1: so I knew that game. Gin and Juice. Is that

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Speaker 1: a Snoop Dogg drink? Is that his classic Snoop Dogg song?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay.

549
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 2: Morton's Salt and Sugar Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Morton's doesn't advertise salt, doesn't advertise you have to have

551
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 1: salt on everything. You don't need to advertise. Wow, that's deep.

552
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I was like, butter you never see a

553
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Speaker 1: I guess there's butter adds. I'm gonna say, beloney. Nice. Yeah,

554
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 1: that's fake. All right? Forty one Buxbox Bowl again, great logo.

555
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's not even a football, there's it's just like

556
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Speaker 5: that controller.

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Speaker 1: Come on, I think that's a bowl. That's a bowl. Wow,

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Speaker 1: we are hot. I mean if I missed one yet,

559
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Speaker 1: it's too bad. I'm not going to watch any of

560
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Speaker 1: these because I'm like, I think I'm an eleven in

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Speaker 1: a row. Okay, jay Lab Birmingham bull. Oh, I think

562
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Speaker 1: that's real. Fact they were a former advertiser. Uh, that's

563
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Speaker 1: absolutely real. Yeah, that's a real that's a real jay

564
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: Lab's got good ear pods. Yeah, yeah, absolutely real.

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00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 2: Days in do not disturb, you're a bull.

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Speaker 1: First of all, that logo the marketing director should get

567
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Speaker 1: canned if that's the real logo. Uh, there's a door

568
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: with a do not disturb handle on it. That's funny.

569
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Speaker 1: I'm saying that's bloney. Okay, what was a lot time?

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Speaker 5: You said it a daze in like thirty five years ago. No, no,

571
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Speaker 5: I've stated Hampton, come on, you coastally leaded. No, Hampton's

572
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 5: in a year and a half ago, two years ago. Absolutely, dude.

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Speaker 5: If you're buy the airport and I got to get

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Speaker 5: out of town, doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, here's the last this is the last one.

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Speaker 2: Spirit Airlines group of fine bulls.

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Speaker 1: I think they went belly up. I don't even think

578
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Speaker 1: is that an airline anymore? Oh gosh, bear it? Group

579
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Speaker 1: of five bowl at the logo, you guys. I'll say this,

580
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: you guys. Our graphics department is putting the work in.

581
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Speaker 1: So I think I've got fifteen right in a row.

582
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, that's boloney, that's not a bowl. We

583
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: got it right now? Which one that I miss? I

584
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Speaker 1: missed the first one? I really remember.

585
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Speaker 3: What was?

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Speaker 1: I think TikTok Talkies was the best genius. So there

587
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Speaker 1: were forty seven last year, down to forty one. I oh, okay,

588
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Speaker 1: so here's the one I got wrong.

589
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Speaker 2: That Look, that's a.

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Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't get the whole six seven things.

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Speaker 1: For the record, Could somebody explain that to me?

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Speaker 3: What is?

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Speaker 1: Nobody can explain it to you. No, nobody knows. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the kids don't know. It's a big It's just it's

595
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Speaker 1: just out there, just a thing. It's culture right now. Okay, So.

596
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Speaker 3: We've got.

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Speaker 1: Bowl game tonight Ohio State. I think everybody feels the

598
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: exact same way, unless you're a Hurricane fan. Ohio State

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00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: wins just a little too much offense. Two good Defenses

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Speaker 1: twenty one, thirteen twenty one. Tenant's in that the odds

601
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Speaker 1: are right. The Raven Steelers is interesting because if Mike

602
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Speaker 1: Tomlin wins, he'll be celebrated. Think about that. If he wins,

603
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna go forty two year old quarterback, No DK Metcalf,

604
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: no Washington, no defendable run game. Mike Tomlin deserves a

605
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: contract extension. If he loses, he's gonna get beat up. Right,

606
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Speaker 1: It's gonna be ugly. We don't know if Lamar Jackson's

607
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Speaker 1: gonna play. Here is John Harball on that question.

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Speaker 3: There was improvement throughout the week. I mean it was.

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Speaker 3: It was not good at all early in the week,

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Speaker 3: and it improved as the week went on. And that

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Speaker 3: was that was cause for you know optimism.

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Speaker 4: I think that we have a lot of Compton and

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00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 4: Tyler is a real big positive and real plus, but

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Speaker 4: doesn't factor into whether Lamar plays.

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Speaker 3: If Lamar is ready to go, he's playing, that's it

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00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 3: for sure.

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Speaker 1: Uh, he practiced today. So and there's there's stories that

618
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: Lamar wants to play in Miami. There are there was

619
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Speaker 1: an NFL General managers that says Minnesota would be the

620
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: play he's won seventy five percent of his games eight years.

621
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: This could be a seventh playoff appearance. I think sometimes

622
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: you just got to say thank you for the effort.

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00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: He's got a massive cap hit next year, which limits

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00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: what they can do, but they draft pretty well, so

625
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: it's just been a weird year. It's, you know, practice

626
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: doesn't practice. I saw a stat during it could have

627
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: been Sunday Night Football or Thursday Night football. They were

628
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: talking about how last year top speed was fifteen and

629
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Speaker 1: a half miles an hour and this year it's less

630
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Speaker 1: than eleven. So he's not as fast, not as twitchy,

631
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Speaker 1: and you know, it's this league's brutal. I had a

632
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: lot of conversations for years with Michael Vick when he

633
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: was at Fox, just about that, and he's like, you know,

634
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: the first high school, college, in your first three years

635
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: in the pro. You know you can you can make

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00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: a lot of hay, but he goes, you'd be amazed

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00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: how often, you know, you think you can run over

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00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: a safety in high school or college, and then all

639
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you try to run over a safety.

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00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: Forget a linebacker, forget a defensive end, just try to

641
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: run over a safety. A couple of times in the NFL.

642
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: It's just not the same and you just take, you know,

643
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: a couple hit pointers, break a toe all of a sudden,

644
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: your shoulders always hurt. NFL just beats you up. So

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00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: I'm excited tonight the College Football Playoff. We have the

646
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: eight best teams, and college football is I think it

647
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: was the first sport, baseball in college football with the

648
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: sports I initially fell in love with. And NFL's just

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Speaker 1: kind of taken over everybody's life. But I can't wait

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Speaker 1: for these games. Fanny getting beat by Iowa, Illinois beat Tennessee,

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Speaker 1: what happens if the Buckeyes, Indiana, Oregon over the next

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Speaker 1: two days all win. And those aren't the TikTok talkie

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Speaker 1: Siesta ball say that